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August 28, 2025 32 mins

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Plot twist: Gen Z, first to grow up with smartphones and social media 24/7- decide now to unplug? 

Meet Olivia Telecky, a 20-year-old Minnesota college student whose article “The Dumb Phone Trend—And Why I Bought Into It” made waves. 

With honesty and humor, Olivia explains why she turned her iPhone into a dumb phone—and what that choice reveals about a generation pushing back on doom-scrolling, questioning the pressure to stay connected, and looking for breathing room in an anxious, uncertain world. She also opens up about Gen Z’s growing pessimism about the future—jobs, housing, even retirement—and how it shapes their choices today.

For some Gen Zers, stepping back from the screen isn’t losing connection—it’s finding a truer one.

(Quick heads-up, friends:  Zoom gremlins snuck into this recording. You might hear a little ‘tin-can radio’ effect in spots, but trust me—the conversation shines right through.)

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