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September 16, 2024 43 mins

What drives someone to commit their life to animal rights activism from such a young age? This episode features Chas, a dedicated advocate who began his journey at just 10 or 11 years old after being deeply affected by a leaflet on animal experimentation. Join us as Chas recounts his early campaigns against fur and vivisection, navigating the pre-internet era, and his unique school experience that supported his vegetarian lifestyle. We also touch on the humorous ways his family adapted to his vegan choices, illustrating the importance of understanding and support in personal activism.


Balancing the emotional weight of activism is no easy task. Together, Chas and I explore the stereotype of the "angry activist" and the real emotional toll of confronting animal cruelty. From historical social justice movements to impactful articles like "Dairy is Scary", we discuss the importance of self-awareness and unity in fostering meaningful change. By presenting uncomfortable truths, activists can inspire lasting transformation, all while striving to create an inclusive and compassionate community.


Internal conflicts within the vegan and animal rights communities are inevitable, but they need not be destructive. Chas shares his perspective on "friendly fire" and the debates over various advocacy strategies, including the controversial support for vegan options at mainstream fast-food chains. Through personal stories and reflections, we underscore the necessity of humility and perseverance in activism. Emphasising the ongoing effort required to pass the baton to future generations, this episode is a heartfelt exploration of the relentless pursuit of justice for animals. Listen in for a thought-provoking and inspiring conversation.


(0:00:01) - Passion for Animal Rights Activism

(0:04:12) - Balancing Passion and Activism

(0:12:59) - Animal Rights Activism Internal Conflict

(0:25:49) - Passing the Activism Baton

(0:33:29) - Challenging Views on Animal Rights


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