Fresh Start with Dr. David Podcast - Season 3 - Episode 9 - Unpacking the Mind: A Conversation with Dr. David Wright and Grief Expert Gary Scott - Fresh Start with Dr. David

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Hey everybody it is gear and i
am super excited today um i
have a gentleman who i call my spirit animal because he is so dialed into the
stuff and what he's doing and stretching out so i'm going to introduce you to
dr david right and i and i want to read his bio just the beginning because this man is doing so much.

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I just want you to get a depth of whom he is, and then he'll help fill in the
rest of the stuff. But Dr.
David Wright achieved his MD in July of 2010, graduating summa cum laude,
which is a 4.0 G-point average, which is 4.0 higher than mine,
from the University School of Medicine.

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His primary emphasis in medical school were forensic psychiatry,
addiction psychiatry, addiction medicine, and neurology. While attending medical schools, Dr.
David concurrently, in a row, completed three master's degrees back to back,

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an MHSA in healthcare law and policy, an MBA in healthcare administration,
and an MM in healthcare care management.
I'm exhausted just thinking about it. And I lost my good sleep because of it,
too. At least you couldn't. Like a baby before that.
Dr. David is a physician, i.e. a medical doctor, a certified hypnotherapist,

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a board-certified NLP practitioner,
neuro-linguistic programming, a board-certified coach, and a board-certified
timeline therapy practitioner, which I want to dig into because I don't know what that is,
who specializes in non-pharmacologic, psychoanalytic, and psychodynamic methods

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of helping individuals and groups to achieve positive changes and breakthroughs.
Besides that, Dr.
David has three books and two clinics. His books are The Nutrient Diet,
Tomato Bisc for the Brain, which I love, but my favorite because I eat these all the time.

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And I love sweet potato pie for the spirit, soul and psyche.
I just love that. Besides that, the clinic, this gentleman is a grower and a
builder and an impressive gentleman. gentlemen, and I'm so excited to have him
with us today and share this. So,

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Dr. David, I'm going to let you go. Tell us about yourself and how on earth
you navigated all this stuff.
Well, thank you so much for that kind introduction. I truly appreciate it.
You know, it's funny because I remember that, you know, when somebody like a
mentor of mine has had like an intro, as they call it, an introduction or a profile.

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Profile and you know and i you know i remember when
i first came up with mine kind of uh maybe a couple years
after i graduated from medical school and started working
and everything but you know it's funny um if you ask me if you if you were to
ask me what i am i would really say i i am really a healer that's what i would
say degrees aside all of those things aside i think that people like me, people like you,

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what we do, I think, we're energy traders.
We move energy from one place to another.
And that energy can be emotional energy, it could be psychological,
it could be intellectual energy.
It could be mental energy, if you wanted to use that term.
It could be soul energy, it could be spirit energy. I think we move energy.

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So that's, if you ask me what I am, I think I'm a healer, but I think I move
energy and I help people move energy.
One of the analogies that I love to use with my clients is what I call the handbag analogy.
And the handbag analogy is this, and it's about objectivity,

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but it's also about organization and planning.
If you take, let's take a stereotype of a woman with a huge,
you know like for instance a duny and burke bag or louis vuitton bag one of those huge,
bags that you know that looks like uh you know
you could put your garage in it you know one
of if you take one of those huge bags pretty soon you

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know and in you know a corollary for a guy would be a briefcase or something
although you know marion men carry bags these days too so you know i don't want
to uh i don't want to pigeonhole anybody but yeah i mean if you've got a big
bag something that you use to organize who you are and what you do,
whether it's a handbag or purse.
Or whether it's a briefcase or even a gym bag. Eventually, if you use it a lot,

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it's going to be overloaded with stuff.
And the question is, is what do you do then? Well, you could try like most people
do kind of instinctually and intuitively to reorganize it with everything inside,
but you're not going to get very far.
You literally have to dump everything out of that bag in order.
That's the easiest way to organize it. And when you do that,

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you're going to find a lot of stuff that you've got in there that you didn't
even know were there like tacos and slurpees and you know uh cinnabons and it's
going to be it's going to be messy basically is what you're saying it's going to be muffins.
Lasagna you know but that's a messy way to do to unload your stuff right that's

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pretty messy it's not a real effective way to just dump it out on the floor
right well but you have to do that though So, you know, and hence the whiteboard behind me.
That's what I'm doing with people's thoughts and ideas.
When we do a whiteboard session to get through grief or anger management or
loss or procrastination or decision making or panic attacks or whatever it is,

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you have to work through it. And the thing about it is you have to have a workbench.
I think I got my first computer at age 12 or 13. My parents,
I'm still so thankful that my parents were willing to spend,
I don't know what, $3,000, $4,000.
That's back when computers were very expensive and there were only a few companies that made them.

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But they did. They got me this computer system when I was 12 or 13 or whatever.
And you had to buy everything separately. It didn't come together.
The hard drive was one. The disk drive, I should say, it wasn't even a hard
drive. It was a disk drive. It was a floppy disk drive, five and a quarter.
A monitor, all that stuff was separately. And they bought it at Sears.
And I think the total was like 3,500 or something like that. But you know.

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I remember around that time, that was before there was like an actual UI.
So now, you know, if you use a Mac or use Windows, it's a real organized environment
with icons on the desktop and all that kind of stuff.
But before that, it wasn't. You just got a cursor and that was it.
And then I remember Commodore Amiga, because I had a Commodore 128.
Commodore came out with the Synco Workbench. And it was on the Amiga,

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the Commodore Amiga, if people remember that.
That came around the same time as the Apple IIGS and things like that.
And that was back when operating systems were coming into play,
organized operating system where you could write documents and things like that.
But they had one called Workbench.
And the whole idea behind it was that you need a workbench in order to be productive, right?
In order to be organized and get things done, you've got to have a workbench.

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You've got to have a place where work gets done.
And that's what I call it. You can't get work done inside of a bubble.
You've got to have objective eyes. And so whenever you've got a problem,
you've got to dump that problem out somewhere, whether it's with you,
whether it's with me, or whether it's with a psychiatrist or a therapist or
psychologist or whoever,
or for your taxes or your accounting with an accountant or a taxman,

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you've got to dump it out somewhere. And so I love that analogy.
You cannot reorganize a handbag or a briefcase without dumping everything out.
If you do, you're going to rearrange the same stuff over and over and waste time.
It's easier if you just unpack everything and then repack it and you're going
to discover a whole bunch of junk what i call baggage that shouldn't be there

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in the first place and doesn't fit and it's displacing the things that need
to go in there if you've got you know if you've got a a handbag or a briefcase
and you've got honey buns and cheesecake and.
Milkshakes and all this stuff and then well yeah you can't fit your calculator
in there you can't fit your iphone or your ipad or your tablet or your stylus
and all that kind of stuff yeah Yeah, because you've got food in there.

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Maybe you didn't mean to have food in there, but at some point,
life got busy and it got in there.
So that's the baggage that we have to get released and let go of and clean.
And that's what I think I help people do, if you really want to boil it down to.
I help people feel by helping them unpack their baggage, get rid of the junk
that they don't need, and then repackage everything up in an organized,

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efficient, productive way so that they can be the person that they were designed to be.
I think what's so interesting about you is you don't pigeonhole anything. You know what I mean?
That makes me sound indecisive.
That Virgo male thing. Is that perfect? But, you know, you're willing to look

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at all sorts of different types of therapies.
You know, you specialize in so many different types of therapies.
Therapies you're willing to take on so many different types of,
of treatment, so many different types of patients and, and address them in so
many different ways. And I think that's what's phenomenal.
You know, you do, it's like, you know, you still have people who are so dyed

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in the wool of, I will only do this. Right.
But you're not like that. I mean, you're very open about, listen,
I do different types of things for different types of folks.
And I mean, am I getting that right? Or am I messing that up?
No, no, you are getting it right. And you know what I call it?
I call it a childlike approach.
What approach? A childlike approach.

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I call it a return to innocence. I think that we're born brilliantly as children,
and we live in a world that teaches us stuff.
But in teaching us stuff, it corrupts kind of the open kind of plate field that
we have about how to do things.
And it's like the phrase from the mouth of babes. You'll hear a kid say something
that's so brilliant and insightful, you're just like, oh, my God.

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You know, we've got all these people in charge of our government and in charge
of corporations, and nobody thought of that.
I remember a movie that I watched, gosh, two decades ago, and I need to rewatch
it because it had such a powerful lesson, but it was about this little boy.
And his whole thing, you can look it up, was about this idea that he came to

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about paying it forward, where you just help somebody and you don't worry about
whether you get something back or or how much it costs you or anything.
You just pay it forward. And then that person pays it forward.
And I remember watching that movie. It was probably maybe 20 years ago.
And I just cried when I thought about and that kid had a story to tell.
That kid didn't just come to that conclusion. He had a journey.

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And, you know, I cried for him and his journey, but it was such a brilliant
thing that he came up with.
When we are children, when we're born, we have an open slate.
We don't have these fixed constraints
on what's possible and what's not possible. Anything's possible.
And I don't think, I think, you know, where you started with this is they don't have a filter.

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You know what I mean? They're not like, oh, I'm going to think about what I say before I say it.
Let me package it up. Because I'm worried about what someone's going to think about it.
They just fire it off right it's just flying out
of their pie hole because you're not overthinking stuff
right right when we get so caught up into
this the years of negative affirmations and negative you know growing up limiting

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messages right that that we get we become afraid to have that child like that's
why i love that you said child like that's why i asked you to repeat it again
i want to be sure that's what you said because it's true it's just to step back to that That child,
you know, there's something else that I hate to spin off, but we do that.
But something else you said when
we had talked before, which was about the seasons and about gardening.

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Right. And it just reminded me of kind of like that childhood.
And, you know, I'm a real grounder. I always try to get barefoot on grass.
You know, we just don't do that anymore in life. Right. And to feel that earth and the season stuff.
Stuff but this childhood thing that you just said is it's just so right on you
know we have to drop back to this innocence this not being afraid to be who

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we are that's not being afraid to share things it's just it just seems like an easier way to be right.
No, absolutely. You know, I, that's, you know, I think it's more holistic.
I think it's more natural. One of my favorite words is natural. I grew up in Arkansas.
I was born in Chicago. I grew up in Arkansas. Arkansas is a natural state.

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And I'm proud. We bought a house in Arkansas.
No way. Yeah, we're moving to Arkansas. We bought a house in Maumau.
Oh, my God. I'm going to shout out Little Rock. I don't know where that is.
Then we need to hang out because I've got a lot of friends, good people I can introduce you to there.
Yeah, we love Arkansas, man. Oh, my God.
Some of the best water in the world. I don't know if it's the hot springs or

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what, but the water there tastes like no other.
Yeah. But the thing about it, it's a natural state. And I think one of the problems,
the reason why everybody has anxiety these days and why everybody's attention
is divided and things like that is I think as a species,
humans have an identity crisis right now.
I don't think if we – we don't know if we want to be natural or if we want an

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automated machine world.
It's so funny when I talk to people about AI, I remember when the first time
I heard AI was, it was with a friend of mine, who I haven't contacted it or
kept in contact with a long time because he moved.
But he was kind of talking about AI way back in 2007, 2008, he was working on AI.
And I was like, what's what's AI? What's artificial intelligence?

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And then he explained to me what it was.
And then you know, I thought about I was like, okay, the Terminator,
yada, to Yed Yedda, and I thought about the Matrix and all these kind of things.
But the thing about AI is it's.
You know, it's kind of like opening up Pandora's box.
You know, sometimes when you ask for something, you might just get what you're asking for.

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And what you end up with might not be what you want.
I remember a long time ago, I saw this. I'm going to be a little bit lewd here, if that's okay.
But I remember a cartoon that I remember seeing in medical school. And it was so funny.
And they went to this guy, this Arab guy in the Middle East.
It was like Egypt or Saudi Arabia or something.

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And this genie, he was traveling in the desert. He was delirious.
This genie appeared and all this kind of stuff.
And the genie asked him what he wanted.
And he described what he wanted. And he said something like,
he said, I want to be white, rich, and surrounded by beautiful women.

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And I think the genie turned him into like a tampon or something.
I mean, it was hilarious.
But, you know, it's really important to think about what you ask for and what you want.
And if it's really what you want, you should think about it.
Because honestly, when people ask me about AI, it scares the hell out of me.
I think it's a dangerous move.

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I think there's a thin line between wanting or creating things that assist you
and creating things that are you or that will be you.
And I think we're just kind of organizing our own replacement.
I didn't, I don't, I'm not trying to get on a tangent about AI,
but my point is that we have an identity crisis.
We don't know if we want to be machines or if we want to be a living species.

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And the funny thing is, is we don't realize this because we can't see ourselves
objectively, but we're becoming more and more machine-like all the time.
And if you compare us to our ancestors, we're becoming more and more mechanical, machine-like and, and.
All those things. And I don't think it's a good thing because I think the animal

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kingdom parts of us are part of what makes us who we are and part of how we tick.
And the further that we get away from that, the more lost we end up.
And we won't figure out why until we go, you know what?
It's all this other junk that we've surrounded ourselves.
This isn't really, in essence, who we are. Well, just look, I mean,
just, just case in point, look what they've done to our food.

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I mean, they've taken our food and that's why, you know, also.
And that's why all these people are getting all these GI conditions and skin conditions.
And I'm going to do a podcast episode about that, but there's like all these
drugs, Sky Rizzi and this drug and this, and they all work the same way.
They're all like monoclonal antibodies or this or that.
But it's just like, it's not by accident that you've got all these diseases

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of the gut and the skin popping up because what are our largest organs? is.
And that's where the food ends up.
And so, gee, if our food is being manufactured and changed and reiterated and
genetically designed and with all these additives and stuff,
our bodies don't know what to do with it. So it's not a shock.

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It shouldn't be a shock or a surprise that people's bodies are rejecting these
things because they're not natural for us.
Plus, you've got to add in global warming and climate change and all that stuff,
which is changing the milieu in terms of with the organisms around us,
bacteria, viruses, fungus, molds, all those kind of things.
So we have some decisions to make, whether we want to live and do the work as

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humans that we need to do, or if we want to have machines to do the work for us.
And if we get machines to do the work for us and think for us,
we got a problem. Yeah, we do.
And we don't even know it. It comes back to a lot of the work that you're doing,
which is, and what, you know, what I'm, you know, working with too is in the

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grief is that we need to take ourselves way down and we need to get back into where we are,
where we started to do our healing and find ourselves because we hide behind social media.
We, you know, people are so much more aggressive.
They're so much more triggered, you know, they're not even who they are anymore.
And I think a lot of people step back and go, man, I can't believe I got so

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dang triggered or, you know, why did I react that way? Or why do I feel this way?
You know, and I've, I've had a state, a phrase that I've used for my whole life,
almost, I'm sure it was from some healer, Gandhi or someone,
but I've, you know, I've said forever, listen.
I love you, I bless you, and I let you go.

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And I found myself doing that like five times a day now.
That's balance. That's balancing your mental, spiritual, psychological checkbook. That's balancing.
Yeah. And that's what you see on a balance sheet, right?
You've got pivots and credits. You've got assets and you've got liabilities.

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That's the definition. And if somebody tells me that they are an expert in accounting
or taxes and things like that, and they don't understand the concept of assets
and liabilities, then our conversation is over because that's the basis.
And that's what we do. That's one of the things that I actually love about science fiction.
If you take a movie like The Matrix, you know, that's what the Oracle talks

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about, about balancing equations.
And we are an equation, and we have to constantly rebalance.
And I think we don't know where to go now because we've got all this technology that we've created.
But without being religious about it, because I don't really think of myself
as a religious person, I think of myself as more of a spiritual person and psychological person,

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I think you have to be really, really careful about recreating things that the
universe and God have created.
Because God and the universe, Versus, in my opinion, if you believe in evolution,
created things with patience and with time.
And when you subtract time and patience away, you get a lot of mistakes.
Well, and look what, you know, to bring it back to the food thing and just to
bring back to the water thing and to bring it back to the spirituality of it and to the soul.

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Like you talk about the soul a lot and stuff in your work and your books is
that our souls are being seriously damaged.
You know, our energy is being damaged. Our soul is being damaged.
Yes. Our fiber, our nutrients, our core, by the food, the water,
the stress, the anger, by the environment.
So it's like we need to get back to healing our soul, you know,

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and that's why I'm so intrigued by so much of your work, because you do so much
in so many different areas.
And you told me about your whiteboard, how you'll take folks and you'll put
that on your whiteboard.
You'll write them through and take people
you know to not break them down i
don't really like that term break them down but you'll open them up you know

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you'll open them up build them up to and build them up and and i just i loved
that you know i love that because it's just we need that we need healing desperately
right now we as people we just do.
I totally agree. You know, if you look up definitions of because we live in

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a society that tries to pigeonhole everything.
And, you know, even though I'm an MD, and I also consult in forensic and addiction
psychiatry, and I have my own private practices, I don't practice medicine.
You know, I do life coaching, I do hypnosis, I do hypnotherapy,
I do a lot of psychoanalytic types of things, I do cognitive behavioral therapies,
you know, a lot of outside the box techniques.

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I even create some of my own kind of techniques to help people deal with things
like grief or trauma from childhood and things like that.
But the thing about that whiteboard is the whiteboard is kind of like an Etch-A-Sketch.
You know, it's a way to unpack things and build them back up.
If you take a building that's gotten old and decrepit and it's falling apart,

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you know, you can only patch it up so much. At some point, you've got to demolish
it and rebuild another building.
You can rebuild it with some of the blocks that are still there,
but you might have to build a new building.
And there's some risk involved. There's no guarantees.
So I think you have to be willing to take some risks. And that's what I try

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to help people do is take calculated risks, betting on the best versions of themselves.
In terms of the whiteboard, I really do think that it goes back to getting to
the root of things. Yeah.
You know, when people ask me what I do, I say I come up with solutions,
but I get to the root causes of things.
If you have a cough, the cough is not the problem. That's just a symptom of the problem.

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If you have a headache, the headache isn't the problem. That's just a symptom.
In terms of a cough, it could be a virus. It could be bacteria.
It could be dry throat. It could be dehydration. There could be a million causes of it.
And that's why you go to somebody who's qualified, who can figure out what the
cause of the cough is, especially if it's a chronic cough. It could be smoking. It could be pollution.

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It could be a chronic infection. It could be a lot of different things.
In the case of a headache, it could be inflamed brain tissue,
or it could be blood vessels, or it could be hypertension.
A lot of people who have headaches all the time, their blood pressure is high,
and that's a sign, a symptom that they might have a TIA or a stroke soon.
So people should take headaches seriously, but you can't just look at the symptom.

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You've got to look at the root cause.
But I also love that when you're doing that, you're not just pushing pills.
I love your notes on this massive inundation of drugs.
It's like, hey, I have a hangnail. Well, here's some drugs, right?
I mean, my wife and I just laugh.

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We don't watch television here at home. We have a cabin and there's TV there.
So when we watch it occasionally, and I can't believe the other commercial is a drug commercial.
And we just look for the one. They shouldn't even be. Here's the commercial.
So when you're talking about your healing, I mean, you're trying to heal people
without just saying, hey, here's, take this, right?

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You're looking at the core of what needs to be healed.
Well, the problem is if you keep taking stuff, then you're a taker, you're a consumer.
And that's the bigger picture that people don't see.
If you really want to find solutions, you have to look at the big picture,
the macro, and you have to look at the dissection, the micro,
the microscopic, and you have to go back and forth.

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That's kind of what I think that I do with people. I'm a lens.
I help people zoom in and zoom out so they can see everything.
And that whiteboard aids me in that. But you have to be able to zoom in and
zoom out. Now, if you are constantly a consumer and not a creator,
you're going to be a consumer forever.
You're going to have to go to something for everything. You're going to be taking

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a pill for everything. I'm not happy. Okay, here's a pill.
This is not working out. I'll take a pill. I don't feel like going to work. Okay, take a pill.
What are you going to do? Take, you know, I take a lot of supplements today.
I mean, every day, but those are supplements. I'm not taking a bunch of medications,
but you can't take a pill for everything.
You can't. And that's the society that we live in that wants to package everything

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up for sale and make you a consumer instead of a creator.
Yeah. You know this better than me because this is your profession.
But I mean, I've got friends now.
When I was going through the cancer treatment and stuff, I was just fighting
the stuff that they wanted to give me.
And I've got friends who like, well, I went to the doctor for this and they gave me this.
And then they gave me this to offset that.

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And then they gave me the next thing I know, I'm taking five. A house of cards.
Five pills. I don't even remember what I went there for anymore.
I'm on so much stuff, right?
Well, I mean, that happens with stimulants all the time. So,
you know, and I'm one of these people.
I was diagnosed with ADHD every, you know, in college. And I think.
When I was younger, maybe I was bright enough to overcome it,

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but every report card I had said the same thing.
I would, you know, have straight A's, and it's like, David's great.
He's a very bright kid, but he finishes his work, and he disturbs others, you know?
I mean, that's what every – he's a talkaholic, and I mean, I was bored. It wasn't my fault.
They should have challenged me more. That was the problem. But,
you know, but we live in a society that just wants to give people easy answers

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and not allow them to solve problems or find a way or a solution system to come
to, you know, ways to solve challenges and problems.
And that's the part that doesn't get to the root cause and that doesn't make
sense because if you give somebody, let's say, Adderall or Ritalin or Focalin or Vyvanse for ADHD,

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well, you're ramping up their metabolism.
That's part of what you're doing. You're stimulating the brainstem to do that,
and they won't be able to fall asleep at night.
Then you give them something to fall asleep. And then once they fall asleep,
then you've disrupted their normal sleep cycle and their sleep spindle.
So then you've got to give them something to kind of wake up in the morning.

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And it's just like this cascade of house of cards that's going to fall.
The same thing is true when people take benzodiazepines for anxiety.
So many psychiatrists prescribe benzos day in and day out. Benzos are addictive.
They're addictive, just like opioid narcotics, like Oxycontin and Oxycodone.
And a lot of patients aren't even told that, oh, just take this pill for your

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nerves. It's addictive.
Yeah. Yeah. And you referenced the commercials, the stuff that they say or omit
from those commercials is, is highway robbery.
It's, it's awful. And you wonder why we have an addiction problem in this country.
It's, it's because of those things that they just let drug companies do whatever.

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It's awful. How are you, how are you helping people?
How do you find that when you're working with people and people are just so
naturally programmed now to go, well, can't you just give me something for it?
Right. I mean, so how do you get around that with people? How do you say,
listen, you know, let's try this instead. Right.
Oh my God. That's a great question. I love that question. And the reason why

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I love it is because the answer is not a good one.
It's an uphill battle. Honestly, I get people, I joke about this on my podcast sometimes.
So that was a brilliant question, but I get that question all the time.
It's an uphill battle because I'm I'm competing against all these instant fixes. You know what I mean?
And it's tough when I'm like, you're having panic attacks.

(28:57):
You're not able to make it through your day. Let's work through this.
Let's get to the root cause of it. Let me teach you some exercises.
Let me teach you some methods of dealing with anxiety, getting rid of the existing
anxiety, working through some of the child trauma that caused it in the first
place versus them doing somebody else.
Here's a pill. Take this. Come back in 60 days.
It's it's it's hard to compete and and i i get

(29:20):
so many appointment requests from people who are like i've gone
to five psychologists i've been the three psychiatrists i've
tried this pill that pill this pill dr right can we schedule one hypnosis session
to fix my problems you know and and i'm like what problems and they're just
like oh well i've got major depressive disorder i've got generalized anxiety
disorder i've got adhd i've got ptsd i've got borderline personality personality disorder.

(29:44):
I've got a nicotine addiction. I drink too much. Can we schedule one hypnotherapy
session to fix that? And I, you know, and I'm like.
No. But we live in a world of quick fixes, and that's the problem.
That's the same problem with AI.
AI is a quick fix. But look at the long-term consequences.
When you fix problems, big problems, without getting to the root cause of it

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with Band-Aids, you're going to end up with a bad problem.
Them and it makes perfect sense if you think about it
logically if somebody gets stabbed a band-aid's not
gonna fix it it's just not it's not you could
try but sooner or later the person's gonna bleed out and die
yeah but that's what we do we take somebody who's been cut they've got 34 stab
wounds and we're like okay well here's one band-aid that should do it for now

(30:32):
no yeah and it's like you said we live in a microwave society we live in an
instantaneous society and instant Instant gratification.
It's funny with the, exactly, instant gratification. And it's gotten worse for social media.
I mean, if you put on a video that's just really good and really insightful,

(30:52):
but it's over 30 seconds, forget about it. If it's over five seconds, forget about it, right?
People won't even engage for five seconds. They want the happy meal.
Moving on, moving on, moving on. Yeah, they want the happy meal.
Yeah, and the challenge is The Happy Meal will make you sick I mean,
the Happy Meal It's like the dude who The Happy Meal, the Happy Meal Eating

(31:15):
at McDonald's all the time, right?
Supersize Supersize He just died Oh, really?
That movie was so tragic I mean, he barely made it through that 30 days What
was happening to his body He was about to have a heart attack Yeah, and the thing is,
People still eat like that every day. I mean, more so now since the pandemic,

(31:39):
people don't look as much now.
And that's, that's why the economy, that's another hidden reason why the economy is so bad.
The economy is not just bad just because everything's inflated 15,
20, 30% for three or four years in a row, which means things have basically doubled the price.
That's not the only reason. The other reason why is because people aren't cooking and stuff anymore.
They're not, they can just order their meals and have them delivered every day,

(32:02):
fresh meal or fresh, whatever it's called, or they can just go out to eat.
That's also why people are, everybody needs Ozempic now and everybody's gained
weight and everybody's morbidly obese and things like that.
People are just looking for instant solutions. But the thing about it is there's
no such thing as an instant solution.
Solutions are never, ever, ever instant. It doesn't work that way.

(32:23):
It's not a solution if it's instant.
Yeah. And it's just when the cancer for treatment. You know,
I went to the specialist. I talked to everyone.
I trusted my team very much, but I honestly feel they just went through,
you know, throat cancer for dummies.
They just did this. They go 35, seven, you're a 35, seven.
I'm like, well, what's that? And I got 35 radiations and seven chemos going to do surgery.

(32:47):
We're going to remove your tongue. That's why I got that stupid list.
We're going to remove this, remove that.
Then we're going to radiate the crap out. And at the same time,
we're going to do the chemo.
So my brother happens to be a chemopharmacologist right he
does chemo drugs for for kaiser so i
said hey ricky i have this and he goes you're probably
gonna be a 35-7 i'm like what what is this everybody knows formula like and

(33:08):
your formula is everyone just exact same you know but they just put you on that
hamster wheel of another thing they did the same thing to my to my first wife
is like yeah we're just gonna going to chemo you to death until you just die, right?
And there have to be some sort of, I understand cancer is pretty wicked,
but there have to be some holistic...

(33:31):
Ways and other ways to help start treating
us instead of just pills frying us
you know like you said happy meals for happy instantaneous thing
there just has to be a different way right well and i mean and i talk about
that in my book the nutrient diet the thing about it is is in my opinion in
my opinion nutrition is is the first cure it really is our you know and and

(33:57):
i If anybody goes back to the season one of my episode, Fresh Start with Dr.
David, and listens to the first couple of episodes, you'll hear where I talk
about how our health care system is not a health care system.
It's an illness care system.
It's a system based upon something going wrong, not about preventing things
from going wrong in the first place.

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It really isn't. It should be preventative.
There are tons of things. I mean, that's where medications came from in the
first place, herbs and plants.
Plants so that's really where the answer is it's
not in a lab it's in a plant and it's in the things that you
put in your body every day i always tell people the first
medication is your meal and that's

(34:37):
one of the reasons why i share what i eat and what i cook and i take pride
in it and and things like that is is the first
thing that you should do to address any problem psychological medical mental
health uh acute chronic whatever is diet water what do you think What do you
think about about I don't want to get in the COVID vaccine because that's a

(34:59):
whole rabbit hole snake pit.
But what do you think about vaccines and in general, like autism and what's happening?
This this like explosion of things that are happening to people and the proposed
links between vaccines and the rates and just everything prevalence of.
Yeah. So they started talking about that maybe 20 years ago.

(35:21):
Uh there were a couple of uh i can't remember her name but
there was a the young lady who the african-american lady who
starred uh on uh 21 jump
street um if anybody remembers that from the 80s uh 21 jump street um it was
a series that came on the guy who does all the um i can't remember the name

(35:43):
of the movie series but the movie series johnny depp with all the treasure or
whatever, all those things.
He was on there. That's how he got his big start was with 21 Jump Street.
And the thing about it is when you look at that, she was one of the prominent
people who believed that.

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Metals and other things, impurities, or the vaccines themselves were what led
to higher rates and incidence of autism.
Here's my belief, and I haven't published a paper on it. I don't,
but here's what I believe.
I believe that most things that happen when you talk about conditions,
whether it's mental health or general medical conditions, are multifactorial.

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That's one of of the big things that you learn your second year of medical school
when you start doing clinical stuff and you take pathophysiology and all those kind of things.
Multifactorial just means caused by many factors and many forces or many different things.
Many factors are involved in
the development of this. When it comes to vaccines, this is what I think.

(36:56):
I think in general, vaccines are a good thing. I think their improvement in
terms of, you know, livelihood and how many people, statistics,
the number of children who live versus die and things like that.
But I think the problem is, is that it's a one size fits all thing.
I don't think the human body was designed to be injected with that many things

(37:20):
at that concentration all at the same time. And I'll tell you an example.
One of the things that I noticed when I got my most recent COVID vaccine or
booster, I should say, was in February.
And I'm probably going to go and get another booster soon.
But one of the things that I noticed is I didn't get the same side effects that
I got from the booster that I had prior to that. The booster that I had prior

(37:43):
to that, thank God my mom was in town, but I literally could not get out of bed the next day.
I could not. I couldn't move. I could not ambulate out of bed.
I couldn't. And then four hours later, I'm perfectly fine.
But that didn't happen this time around. Now, the federal government and the
CDC and a lot of those people came out and said the other booster was too strong,

(38:04):
but this one was definitely weaker. So that's the problem.
We're, you know, we had this pandemic. Where's the task force? course, they're gone.
COVID hasn't gone away. There's still shots around. What are they educating
the public about? All the different symptoms, side effects, nothing.
I mean, nothing, zero. So yeah, I don't think it's a good idea to put a kid,

(38:25):
to have a kid get seven shots all at one time and then six months later,
get four more shots and then six months later, get five. No.
Why would you do that all at once? Our immune system, one of the things that
people don't understand from an embryological standpoint is our immune systems
develop, co-develop with our neurological system.

(38:45):
They come, they develop together from stem cells.
And so when you damage one, you damage the other.
And so you shouldn't overstimulate the immune system with too many things all at once.
You can handle one thing, right? It's like if you had emergencies, right?
If you're preparing a banquet, let's say you're preparing for,

(39:07):
let's say, Labor Day or Memorial Day in your kitchen.
You're having your whole family over, you know, and you're cooking stuff.
If you're trying to get a bunch of stuff done you're
kind of cut 30 dishes at one time you
overheat one thing and the next thing you know you're focused on that
and then the other thing overheat it's going to be a big mess but if you're
just focusing on one thing it's a different story you can handle it

(39:28):
so i don't think the human body was designed to handle that
many toxins that's what they are if
you haven't been exposed to it germs viruses whatever they're
toxins adolescents um at one time i don't and
i think that is associated with the rise
in autism and other things too yeah i sure do you seem
to you you also seem to do a lot of mind body

(39:50):
stuff i mean you work a lot with the mind and not just the body right i think
i've read in your bio that when you transitioned away from traditional medicine
that was a big part of it right that you that's like hey the mind plays a lot
more in this than you guys are doing is that am i getting that No, absolutely.
I think it's multifaceted. I think it's, you know, one of my favorite phrases

(40:13):
to use is multidimensional and multifactorial and multifaceted.
I think that.
All of this, this huge web that we call a world is tied in from different parts.
And that's why you have a diet that consists of multiple things.
We don't just subsist off of protein, even though, you know,

(40:35):
if you look at the kilocalories per mole of protein versus fat versus this, you need all of them.
And that's, you know, I remember maybe 20, 20 years ago, maybe actually probably
long. I'm dating myself longer than that.
When I was in college in the 1990s, and they came up with this thing called colistat or something.
And it was something, it was back when I was really thin and actually thought

(40:58):
I was going to be a model or something crazy like that in college.
I mean, I was pre-med and pre-law, but I thought, oh, whatever.
All my friends wanted to be models. We can all be models, whatever.
And they had this thing called colistat or something like that.
And it was some pill that eliminated the cholesterol from your diet and people
were using it to lose lose weight.
Well, that makes sense, right? If cholesterol leads to weight gain,

(41:19):
then if you eliminate cholesterol, you won't gain weight. But guess what?
One of the things you learn in medical school is cholesterol is how you create hormones in your body.
And so, you don't want to get rid of cholesterol.
You need it to make hormones. And people, women who do that or men who do that
or people who are anorexic or people who are calorie shy or who eliminate cholesterol,

(41:43):
they have hormonal issues and it's not by accident.
So I think, I mean, you need a huge part of your brain made out of cholesterol, right?
Fats, fats, insulate nervous tissue. So you need that.
So you don't want to do that, even though it kind of makes sense if you want
to eliminate calories, but you, fat is part of the picture. So it's not about.

(42:04):
Every little individual piece is about how they come together.
So I think that solutions come from a lot of different things.
You can't just focus on the mind without looking at the body.
You can't just look at the body without focusing on the mind. They're integral.
It takes physiology and anatomy to create who we are physically.
You need both. You can't just have
the anatomy. You can't just have the physiology. They work hand in hand.

(42:26):
You see so many different people for so many different things.
I mean, how many times do people come to you with something that they're claiming
is physical that you know ends up to be a mental, or they come to something
with you mental that you know is physical, right?
I mean, you can kind of take care of that because it's the way your mind thinks.
I honestly think it's both, and I honestly don't think it matters either.

(42:49):
I mean, if somebody comes to you with a problem and you think it's in their
head, it doesn't matter what you think, it's what they think that matters, right?
And I think in a lot of cases, it's a little bit of both. I really do.
I don't think it's strictly one or the other. I think it's a lot of shades of gray.
Rarely do we have blacks and whites in life. Now, there are some blacks and

(43:10):
whites, but usually that's not the case.
For instance, if you look at chemistry or you look at physics,
you've got electrons and you've got protons.
Protons are positively charged and electrons are negatively charged.
And at one point, they thought that's all there were, were electrons and protons.
But now we know that that's not the case. They're also neutrons and they're

(43:31):
quarks and they're all these other particles floating around.
And now there's dark energy and light energy. And so it's a big picture.
So it's not didactic to one or the other.
So I think very few solutions boil down to just one thing. I really don't.
And I tell people, if you're depressed or or if you're anxious,

(43:53):
one of the first things you should do is look at your diet.
Yep. Yeah. What do you, because all those neurotransmitters come from things
that come from your diet,
you know, L-tryptophan and L-seranine and, you know, all those,
all those, all those bases and all those amino acids,
those things lead to your neurotransmitters.

(44:15):
And if you don't get them from your diet, so that's one of the big reasons why I think it's,
it's bad in in psychiatry and in medicine
where they just hand a ssri like prozac or
something to somebody well ssris are great if you've
got plenty of serotonin but if the problem is you don't have
enough serotonin in the first place and no ssri is going to help you because
there's no serotonin to select and and prevent from being re-upped you know

(44:38):
our diets are so our diets are so stripped of all of that all the minerals all
the nutrients all the vitamins all the amino acids are totally stripped of that.
You touched on cholesterol, but that just made me think of something else that interests me.
I mean, what do you think about the inflammation based on this junk food that
we're eating, this horrible food, which is creating the inflammation, right?

(45:01):
I mean, don't we see a lot of diseases from inflammation? Yeah.
Yeah, we do. And now there's a big and so I'm glad you brought that up because
I've been kind of wanting to talk about that on my podcast and I hadn't had
a chance to do it. So I'll introduce it on yours.
But so there's a big there's a big push right now for anti-inflammation. Right.
And it's it's everybody's kind of you've got all these doctors and experts saying,

(45:23):
you know, inflammation is the bad thing.
Inflammation is what destroys tissues and uses calories and all these things.
So you see all these things that are anti-inflammatory. um the
obvious one is steroids steroids eliminate inflammation so
when dermatologists don't know what to do steroids is
the first place that they go they give somebody a steroid right um and

(45:43):
and people really don't realize what steroids do what they actually do is called
pro they cause this this process you learn in medical school called apoptosis
which means programmed cell death so that just means a cell commits suicide
so the way that steroids work hurt is they make your immune cells commit suicide.
Is that a good thing long term? Probably not. Probably not. So that's one thing. But here's the thing.

(46:08):
The process of inflammation developed in our bodies over millions of years.
So it's not a totally bad thing. There's a reason why inflammation is there.
It helps us clear out our immune system from toxins and things like that.
And so now you've got all these products on the market that are marked as anti-inflammatory
and And they're advertised on TV all the time.
You've got curcumin and you've got what's- Turmeric, a lot of turmeric. Turmeric, curcumin.

(46:34):
You've got garlic, you've got onion powder, you've got all these things. But here's the thing.
Inflammation is not, inflammation out of control is a bad thing.
Inflammation itself is not because that's how your lymphatic system and your
immune system clear things out of the body.
So you need some degree of immune response and inflammation.

(46:54):
The problem is, is people have there's so many autoimmune conditions now and
like lupus and amyloidosis and sarcoidosis and MMS and Graves disease and all
these other things that people have gone crazy.
And they think that inflammation itself is bad. Inflammation itself is not bad.
Inflammation on steroids is bad. And you're right.

(47:16):
It is caused because we're putting so many foreign things in our body and our
body doesn't know what to do. And so what what our body does is it takes whatever
you give it and it builds out of it. It's got to build.
We don't we're not static. Our cells turn over. We replace our body.
Every part of our body, except for a couple of key organs, replace themselves.
You know, so we replace ourselves all the time.

(47:38):
But if you don't give your body the nutrients, the right ingredients to replace
itself, it's going to replace itself out of whatever it has,
including junk food and potato chips and, you know, Snickers and whatever else.
And so that's the problem. And when you replace your body with stuff it doesn't
recognize, it's going to attack it because it looks at us for it.

(47:59):
Yeah. Yeah. And that's where all the pain comes in, right? When your body starts
attacking itself, that creates a lot of the pain and people come to you with
pain when it really isn't from like a hurt elbow or something like this.
It's caused from his body attacking itself, I would guess. Is that what you're
saying? I think some of that pain does come from attacking itself.

(48:20):
But the other problem is, look at what you're building.
If you're a contractor, I always love analogies.
You'll see me going back to analogies all the time. If you're a contractor and
somebody hires you to build a brick house and you order brick and mortar and
maybe a stone for the stone chimney and all these kind of things, and when they deliver,

(48:45):
all they deliver is lumber, what are you going to do?
You're going to build them a frame house. Well, how's that going to work out?
They ordered a brick house.
So if you don't give the body the right ingredients, the building blocks,
that's why I love the word build.
And I like to think that that's a lot of the work that I do. I help people rebuild.
But you've got to have the right ingredients. And that's why there's no such thing as a shortcut.

(49:08):
When people come to me, I give them the ingredients to build what they need,
whether it's self-esteem, self-confidence, values, character,
the right principles, the right ethos, the right values, the right formulas,
the right recipes for success.
There's no such thing as a shortcut. If there's one message I could give to people,

(49:30):
it doesn't matter if you're talking about money, it doesn't matter if you're
talking about food or weight or about medicine or about healthcare or about
a podcast or about technology or about AI or about building a house or a government or anything else.
Shortcuts don't work. There's a reason why you have to put the work in.

(49:51):
The building blocks have to be there. And if they're are not
there it's going to crumble anyway well it's funny because
i was going to ask you that because i know we're we're running up
against our our our time here even
though we could talk for like an hourglass right but the um so that's i was
going to ask you and you asked me and i liked that closing so you said you said

(50:11):
if you want to leave us with with one thought but there'll be many thoughts
after this because you're just you're just awesome to talk to you but so if you
were going to leave us with one thought and said, said, Hey man, you know.
I mean, obviously, I mean, just read your bio and I'm going to post your bio.
But I mean, you know a lot of stuff. You have your fingers in a lot of stuff.

(50:34):
You believe in a lot of stuff. You trust a lot of stuff.
You expose yourself to a lot of stuff.
So I know there's so much there. But if you're going to leave us with something
that kind of was just in your heart that you wish people could get or that you really want to convey,
what's one of the, I know there's probably a lot, but what's one of that one

(50:54):
thought that you kind of go, you know what? But this kind of always sticks with me.
Okay, the one I'd leave you with is this. There's no shortcut to health, healing, and wellness.
Go to somebody who makes you do the work, somebody who knows what the work is,
somebody who's willing to not just come up with some short, quick response after

(51:15):
you've asked two questions.
When people come in to see me, their first initial consultation is two hours long.
There's a reason why we spend two hours looking at their life and looking at
what has happened so far, because you have to know the story in order to change
the ending. If you don't know the story, you can't change the ending.
And it's sad, I think, in healthcare these days, where people go to somebody

(51:37):
and that person asks them two or three questions, and all of a sudden,
they've got the answer to their medical problems or symptoms.
No, you don't. You haven't done the work.
It's like Sherlock Holmes. You have to do the work. So my one moniker,
my one mantra to everybody is there are no shortcuts to healing, health, and wellness.

(51:58):
You have to do the work and you have to go to somebody who understands what
the work is, how to do it, and makes you and keeps you accountable and responsible
for doing it. If not, you're just fooling yourself.
You're just wearing a raincoat in the wind. You are the man for that, my friend. Holy cow.
And with that, I mean, can you please give us.

(52:21):
Give us, you know, take all the time you want. I mean, where can people find
you? What do you, what are you doing to help people?
Where can we go and, and, and, and schedule with, with Dr.
David, right? I mean, how can all the folks who want to want to reach out to you?
Cause what you're doing is so different and it's, it's going to help so many
people compared to going and seeing your doctor.

(52:42):
You don't even get the doctor, right? You get the PA, you get a PA walks in
and goes, don't even get me started on that. Right.
And it's like, where's the doctor? It's like, nah, you're not going to see your doctor.
Doctors are getting replaced by PAs and nurse practitioners,
and they're going to be replaced by robots and computers.
You know, I'll throw this in here. There's a pilot that they're doing right

(53:04):
now at a long-term care facility where they've replaced all the nurses with robots.
They're testing it out right now. And how about this? It's all going to be,
it's all going to be, this is going to be, when I talked to my doctor,
I said, you want to do it on the phone? Tony, you want to do it in person?
I'm like, I want to do it in person. You got to check my throat,
see how my scar tissue is. You got to see if that tumor's back.

(53:25):
You know, you can't do that over the phone.
You've got to touch my body and look at me, right?
But they're always pushing me to do it over the phone, do it over the phone.
I'm like, there's a lot we could do over the phone, especially with your work.
I know you could do a lot of work over the phone, but there's some stuff you
can't do over the phone, right?
No, I believe in energy. I believe there's something that they teach you in

(53:48):
medical school. It's called the the laying of hands touching.
You know, the exchange of energy and things that you can't do.
I think health care, unfortunately, is moving towards what I call phone book
or kiosk medicine where you'll go to some kiosk. It won't even be the doctor's
office, a local kiosk that's got the blood pressure cups and all that kind of stuff.

(54:11):
And you'll have a virtual visit. And that's the future of health care.
The other thing that I would tell people big, too, is, you know,
hey, and this is why a lot of people I get I get thousands and thousands of
appointment requests every year.
But very few people actually schedule an appointment relative to the number of requests.
And that's because they want to use their insurance. They want something that's not inexpensive.

(54:33):
It doesn't work that way. Whatever you invest in, that's where you're going to get a return.
And if you get the cheapest option, you choose the cheapest option out there,
you're going to get the cheapest result.
Input equals output.
Insurance does not want to help you get healthy. insurance
model would not pay anything and and and

(54:55):
and the pharmaceutical companies do not want you
to get healthy because a healthy person is one less customer
so they do not want you to get healthy and and it's shocking when i was going
through my insurance was really good but with my wife we fought constantly it's
like well she needs her uh you know her brain operated on to save her life man

(55:16):
let me run it through an insurance company i said well you just told me she
needs had to save her life,
that doesn't seem like a negotiable item, right?
It's just bizarre to me. And I would imagine with what you're doing,
the insurance companies hate you because you're like, I'm actually healing people.
And I know that's against what a lot of you guys are about.
So you're not going to help me out helping people, right? I mean,

(55:37):
you must run into that all the time.
I mean, you know, that's the thing about it is a lot of people want the quick fix and the cheap fix.
And that's the recipe for consumerism. Yeah.
Make it cheap and make it easy and quick. And that's why Carvana exists.
That's why CarMax exists. That's why.
Yeah. Because people can buy a car from a vending machine, like the piece of

(56:01):
bubble gum that we used to get out of a thing at the grocery store.
Yeah. It's sad. But you know what? I'd like to think that people like you are
changing that every day.
And I think that people like me are changing it. We're paying it forward and
we're showing people that they can heal, really heal permanently and long-term.

(56:23):
And it's not a gimmick. It's not easy.
It's not cheap. It's not free.
It's not quick, but it does work. work as
long as they're willing to put in the time
as long as the time and the
energy you say and that's why i love what you're doing because you're just
being honest with people it's like look i'm not going to blow smoke i'm not

(56:44):
just going to say i'm going to give you this pill and you're going to be fine
it's like look this is going to be hard this is going to be work but what is
your life work what is your life worth what is healing worth what is releasing
yourself self from all this stuff worth.
It's worth everything because without that, why do we want to suffer?
Because we're just living in a world of suffering for no reason because we don't

(57:08):
want to do the work, right?
So, tell us how we can reach you. Tell us how we can find you.
Where are we going to get you? So, yeah.
So, you can find me in a lot of different places these days.
You can find my podcast, Fresh Start with Dr.
David, on every major podcast platform.
So that includes Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Spotify, Pandora, iHeartRadio.

(57:34):
Um audible everywhere the podcasts
are you can find my podcast and it's free you don't have
to pay anything it's called fresh start with dr david it's now in season
three uh we you and i recorded episode
i believe seven of of season three today so that's free you can subscribe to
it it doesn't cost you anything fresh start with dr david and it's really good

(57:54):
i listened to six of them and believe it or not and man they believe you they
move fast they're informative informative.
You had really interesting guests. You covered a lot of other areas,
which was so interesting to me because you didn't pigeonhole anything.
For a doctor, you opened up a lot of different things. So I'm sorry to cut you
off, but yeah. No, that's okay.

(58:15):
Yeah, no, there's- Seriously good. There's no thing that I won't talk about
because I'm just like, you're not going to help anything by not talking about something.
Just get it out there and start unpacking it and piecing it it together.
That way you can rebuild it better.
So that's one way. I also have three Facebook groups that are completely 100%

(58:35):
free, where I post positive affirmations and positive content and things like that.
Those are called, the first one is called Fresh Start with Dr.
David Facebook page. That's one.
Another one is called, what is it called? Um.

(58:56):
Uh, there's two other ones too. So there's one that's named after my podcast.
It has the same name, Fresh Start with Dr. David.
And then there's a couple other ones. One of them is called New Balance with Dr. David.
And there's one other one. The differences between them is one,
two of them are private and one is public.

(59:16):
So I believe that New Balance with Dr. David is completely public.
It's open. The other two are private. You can still join if you want.
But New Balance with Dr. David, I believe is a public one.
I have three books out. You can check out. I have two self-improvement books.
One is called Sweet Potato Pie for the Spirit, Soul, and Psyche,
a tribute to Oprah Winfrey and Super Soul Sundays.
My second self-improvement book is called Tomato Bisc for the Brain.

(59:40):
And my first diet, nutrition, health, wellness, and weight loss book is called The Nutrient Diet.
So those are all available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, all those places.
You can also find me online at my website if you want to schedule an appointment
or if you want to read some of the free articles that we have.
I have several practice websites, but the easiest one is www.atlantacoaching.com, just like it sounds.

(01:00:02):
Www.atlantacoaching.com, just like it sounds. From there, you can read more about me.
You can see some of the services I provide.
You can also read the 100 plus testimonials by current and past clients of mine.
You can also check out free articles and things like that. So there's a lot of content there.

(01:00:22):
There are also free resources there. So if you go to the website and you've
got a family member who needs inpatient psychiatric treatment,
they had a psychotic break, they had a nervous breakdown or something like that,
those resources are there.
If you have a kid with a neurodevelopmental problem like autism or autism spectrum
disorder or something like that, those resources are there.

(01:00:43):
So www.atlanticcoaching.com. And then you have...
You have two actual offices besides all the online stuff?
Yeah, so I have an office in Buckhead at Piedmont Center in Buckhead.
I also have an office in Decatur where I am right now.

(01:01:05):
And I'm actually moving this office to a suite of offices in Brookhaven by the end of next month.
So I'm going to have a suite of offices with myself and other professionals,
providers, coaches, and things like that there.
And that will happen at the end of next month. So I'm really excited about that.
I love it, man. You are a growth-minded person.

(01:01:26):
You're a grower. You're a builder.
You're a helper. You're a healer. You're a forward thinker. You're an expanded thinker.
You are giving. I mean, you immediately were kind to me about doing this.
So your persona is so right on for what we need right now.

(01:01:47):
And I just hope everyone got that. Yeah, I'll put that information on our podcast
and on our website also so people can reach you because they need to.
Because you do a lot of online or on-phone counseling too, right?
They don't have to fly to Georgia.
No, no, I do. I have clients in other countries. I have clients in California. I have clients in Texas.

(01:02:11):
I have clients in Louisiana and all over the place.
I have clients who work in the movie industry. I have clients who are professional
athletes, accountants, doctors, psychiatrists, other psych, you know,
psychiatrists, psychologists, secretaries, plumbers, truck drivers, everything else.
Now, do I personally believe that I believe that, that,

(01:02:32):
Some work should be done in person, right? And so that doesn't mean you have
to fly out here all the time or whatever.
And if it's just virtual, that's fine too.
I do believe in the energy and the power of meeting people face-to-face.
But at the same time, I do do a lot of work virtually.
And I think it's good work. And as long as people are willing to put in the

(01:02:57):
work and they really, truly desire to change And they're not just saying that
to make themselves feel better. Absolutely.
I bet you can call them on it pretty quick though. I bet you're,
you're, you're pooping.
I call myself out on it too though. I'm telling you, I do.
I call myself on, there's nothing. And I will call myself out in front of clients

(01:03:18):
while they're here too. If I think it's going to help them.
That's awesome. And then again, that brings us back to that whiteboard where,
I mean, you told me the story, which is pretty cool about you had one, one patient.
Now you didn't have a name or a birth date or anything that would be descriptive
to someone who would know what that was, but you had their, their things on your board.
And the next person walked in and goes, oh my God, that's my stuff,

(01:03:41):
you know? And how did you know?
And I think that's just so awesome that you're, you, you know,
you put that stuff out there in people's face.
You're not just talking about it, you know, you're making them work to get there.
And that's, that's huge.
But I think that's awesome. So, Dr.
David Wright, you are epic.
Hopefully we could do this again. Thank you. You know, you've been so gracious

(01:04:04):
with your time. I'm very grateful for that.
We'll get this posted and we'll see you again, sir.
Absolutely. Hey, great talking with you. Good energy. I love this.
I can't wait to be a guest again.
And this is good. And thank you so much for the work that you're doing.
I think it's making a big difference. And I think people like you are making

(01:04:26):
a difference in who we become as a species. And that's invaluable.
Thank you. That's the goal, right? Absolutely. It should be.
It should be. All right, doctor.
Thank you so much. And I'll see you on the other side. Absolutely. You take care. Bye.

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