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August 6, 2024 83 mins

It’s yin and yang to the maximum lately… a moment in time where we can see the endlessly profound and the infinitely ridiculous existing side by side. We can choose between channels that probe the nature of reality, deliver new insights and ideas and reveal fascinating discoveries, or we can tune into (and consume) the absurdity of the media and the outside world. This divergence between being illuminated or dimmed has been a long time in the making. Now is the time to decide if we’re going to be prisoners of the past or pioneers of the future, but in order to do so we have to make sure we have a clear connection to the source.

In this episode Jost and Leon discuss how we got to this point and the invisible precursors to these truly wild times. But instead of attempting to make sense (why even bother) of this through the physical and mundane worlds, they instead take a peek outside of the measurements of time and space. Jost gets into the glaringly obvious signals that are telling us to look inwards, the snowball effect of our tech rich, nutrient deficient lifestyles that are interfering with the development of our souls, and the gradual severing of our crucial connection to the cosmic which leaves us open to manipulation and control. This corrosion of connectivity to the source makes it impossible to access anything other than the world we see in front of us - and we therefore become susceptible to its influences. Jost also talks about how this ‘brainwashing’ has nothing to do with our brains but in fact our perceiving agents - our 12 energy Organs - which we have to cultivate at all costs. Leon wonders how many people think the news is real or how many simply tune in for entertainment, what happens when you follow the masses (because sometimes the ‘m’ is silent), and Buckminster Fuller’s invisibly integrating trends. He also talks about existential crises in malls, the reaction cycle, inanimate vs animate objects and why it might be time to flip the board over and play by a different set of rules.

Jost and Leon also discuss relativity and Einstein’s unknown variable (and wonder whether or not he would have been cancelled on social media), the awakening of the tao in modern times, the glory days of the 80’s, yogis, martial arts masters, and an idea for a silent podcast. They also talk time traveling dinosaurs, interdimensional beings, the grace of the animal kingdom, how to turn poison into nectar, and wonder if the Large Hadron Collider has been messing with our reality. 

Instead of looking for answers, blaming external factors for what’s happening in the world or trying to pick sides, we need to instead get on our own side and plug back into the source. Time for a little DIY (dao it yourself)! 

 

For more about Jost: https://jostsauer.com/

For more about Leon: https://futurethingy.com/

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(00:00):
Welcome to the Future Chia Podcast. I'm Leon Fitzpatrick. And I'm Jos Stoa.
And we'll be talking about everything from Taoism to design to traditional Chinese
medicine and everything in between.
And we talk about how to make purpose out of life and life out of purpose. Whatever that means.
Join us for our next amazing adventure into the unknown.

(00:23):
Music.
We'll see you next time.

(01:00):
Mug oh this it's amazing this is probably the most yin and yang time i've ever seen,
incredible that's saying a lot yeah incredible profound
intelligent super mind-blowing discoveries and then total stupidity yeah yeah
yeah yeah all you see is the stupidity in the in the news right but you don't

(01:23):
yeah yeah yeah yeah that's right that's incredible yeah you're I completely agree.
I can sense and feel and see so much happening, I think, and only a fraction
of what you do, but then at the same time, in the same moment,
you can witness just the absolute opposite.
It's really... It's hard to describe. Yeah, I mean, I started this morning after breakfast.

(01:47):
Yeah, just going to check up on the news. I read the Korea Mail.
It was all about the most stupid things possible to write about it in the most stupid way.
Yeah. I mean, the first problem is thinking of the career in the mail as a newspaper, right?
Like, I think it's better for, like, cleaning windows, you know,
or putting the bottom of your night cage.

(02:07):
No, that's too damaging to the environment.
Would be offended. But then afterwards, then I listened to a podcast about a
neuroscientist who got a PhD in biology psychology, we just released a book about conscious.
We just looked at how conscious are the plants, and it's absolutely stunning in that regard.

(02:30):
And so it was like, I was just taken away from something.
Every page I was reading in the career mail, they said, how stupid is it actually
possible to the fellow to listening, how profound can this get?
Yeah yeah i mean and also you could
almost like you could be reading the career mail but

(02:52):
you could put a podcast in of something completely profound and you
could experience it at the same moment you know if your brain is possible to
read and listen at the same time you know imagine like that's i've tried that
i try that sometimes can i read and listen at the same time or you know you
want to you're reading something you don't want to read that's really boring
you put on something more interesting to listen to and just pretend you're reading
the thing so because you You can't exist in both planes, right?

(03:14):
The stupid and the profound.
Yeah, but then you would ask yourself the question, why would you read that
stupid thing in the first plane?
Well, I think it's almost like you've got to stay, you know,
it was a little bit of poison, you know, to build yourself up against the rest of the poison.
You've got to expose yourself to it, you know, expose to therapy. Yeah, homoeopathy.
Yeah, you've got to give yourself a little bit of it. That's what it is,

(03:34):
yeah. Maybe that was the mainstream media is trying to homoeopathic treatment for the world.
Yeah, you go. Yeah, because when you read it, you know, it's just like the epitome of stupidity.
Yeah. At the same time, enormously entertaining.
It is. And that makes me wonder, because I try not to judge people for reading
that stuff. I do wonder, are you just reading this for a bit of fun?

(03:57):
Or do you think this is news and important? Because it's amazing the 24-hour
news cycle, I call it, right?
Which means just you drop something and it goes around, disappears,
generally speaking. speaking, that if you get around other people,
everyone just talks about the same thing.
Did you hear about what happened in the Olympics? Did you hear about this? Did you hear about that?
And there's a list of things everyone goes through because everyone is reading

(04:17):
the same news sources, so to speak, and then it turns into something else,
but you never get below that depth.
Like there was a Denzel Washington, he said...
If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you do read the news, you're misinformed.
Right? So, like, you don't know, but then you're getting information that's wrong.
So, you pick which one you want to go with.

(04:40):
But I don't know if the news is more really for entertainment now.
And people then just want to repeat the entertainment to other people.
Like, when you watch a movie, it's a great series on Netflix. Oh, yeah.
Yes, yeah. And you want to talk about the great movie you watched.
It's because I'm entertained, not because I think it really happened.
I don't think that that dinosaur really came through a time portal and ate everyone

(05:02):
in real life. I'm entertained by that story. That's not a real movie,
by the way, but it should be.
Versus reading a news article, quote-unquote, from the mainstream and thinking
they're telling you the truth and then repeating it to someone.
That's my question. Do we know, do we think that's actually the truth or do
we just want to talk about something?
Is it for the sake of just relating to people? The thing, depending on what

(05:24):
generation you're in and depending on your programming, because obviously news
are still perceived to somehow want you to know what's going on.
And obviously it's becoming more and more aware that we have to be really cutting
off to that in order to draw the information, what really goes on from a totally different source.

(05:44):
And that's not a target for the information. In particular with all that research
lately that goes on about what in fact is consciousness.
And understanding that those triggers that are instrumental in terms of shaping
comes from all different directions of our life, you know.
So, fundamental to all the triggers which are within the spectrum of time and

(06:05):
space, obviously, is an aspect of consciousness.
But then also, that fundamental aspect of consciousness is subject to the triggers
within the time-space continuum.
So, we got two different kinds of triggers on us.
And China's medicine really nailed that very, very well by looking at,
okay, there's your true self, your cosmic self, which is outside the measurement

(06:27):
of time and space, which is a fundamental aspect,
your cosmic, and then there's your quiet self, which is within the measurement
of time and space, but it's subject to the triggers within that domain.
So to understand, to differentiate between the triggers that come from the cosmic
realm realm, and the trigger that actually comes from the measurement of time
and space is the key to enlightenment, according from a Chinese medicine perspective.

(06:52):
But the more you are exposed to various factors about it, the more impact you
have on your consciousness in order to devote yourself.
So therefore, which is why these times now are so profound,
because they have these intense triggers from every different angle on us,
that we're understanding the fundamental nature of life, more and more and more
and more, which transcends time and space,

(07:14):
but also at the same time understanding that the triggers that we're exposed
to within this world are not real either.
So it's a really profound time to be alive. Yeah, I don't think you're going
to get that in a newspaper though.
I can imagine someone trying to write that article or explain it to anybody
because it's like you dismantle, you face one aspect of that and everything

(07:37):
else is going to crumble Right.
So you can't ever you can't actually point that out to anybody really who's
not already on their way there maybe.
So I don't think the Courier Mail or the Guardian or the sources are going to
point this out to anybody.
Right. Because that's almost undoing their business model.
By the way, everything we're writing here is made up or, you know,
and even if it's true, it's irrelevant now.

(07:59):
Like, it doesn't seem to matter if there's even a shredder.
It's some fake truth. For example, there is a person called Donald Trump.
There's a person called Kamala Harris. There's a person called Albanese.
So there are fake truths that are true.
I'm not sure they're real, honestly. I'm going to disagree with you there.
Or we know Joe Biden may not be real. He may be an impersonator,

(08:20):
a guy with a mask on or something. So I'm going to maybe disagree with you.
May not be quite real, but in this version of reality, they're here causing
an impact. So I'll agree with you there.
Yeah. Whatever is the avatar that presents that what we in our near setup as
Joe Biden, yeah, that's it.
So when we look at that, what it presented as a job, why we don't think about

(08:42):
someone else. Yes, no, lots of people do.
Yeah, that's true Okay, it's getting more and more difficult Is this going to
be really hard to have a podcast Where we talk about things that you can't talk
about Because it's really hard to even put this into words anymore,

(09:03):
We could do one where we just sit in silence maybe And just let us sort of stare
And just have a silent podcast,
Yeah, direct the point towards what to think about out, and then let the consciousness
provide the triggers, but it has to transcend the parameters in order for it
to actually have a relevant spectra, yeah.
So we obviously are here for a reason, and China's medicine always says,

(09:27):
over and over that, it's whatever we see right now is always correct.
Because it's part of the process. It never says anywhere it's wrong.
It's just basically, okay, you were here.
When you're facing a situation where your stimulus now is reaching your face
via an extended fist, that is real regardless of the situation.

(09:51):
And so that means in that moment, you have to adapt to a situation.
Okay, something is embarking on me. Within me, there's an ability to adapt or to react.
There's a responsive mechanism involved, but there's also a truth aspect that
transcends all that because even the physical dimension, and if you go into
that, you have the chi power, and then that situation is immediately rectified.

(10:14):
And so there's other factors involved, and obviously this is where the mystical
aspect is coming into it.
So to me, it looks like the more absurd it becomes on the altar,
the more stupid it becomes on the altar, the more we have to go into the mystical aspect of life.
It's almost like whatever the world is, it's forcing us to go mystical because

(10:40):
we can't make sense of what is presented to us anymore.
So therefore, why not go somewhere that is obviously not making sense, which is the mystical?
That's a good point. Yeah. Why pretend or
to try and make sense of it or make it normal all or what's the
right word yeah yeah in normality or reality

(11:00):
is if that's going crazy mode is accurate start start
out being crazy or weird or absurd and then
then you're not going against anything yeah that's yeah we're just reaching
the point where you're just okay we don't understand anymore what's happening
because you can't like yeah so why not then make the mystical as your prime
folk yeah so at least then you are engaging with something that is officially

(11:23):
designed for you not to understand,
but it gives you an insight into how to react and respond to situations that
move you towards hell that happened.
Whereas if you're trying to make sense of what is presented by the physical,
it moves you towards unhealth, ill health, and unhappiness, and frustration, and anger.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's pretty unlikely to look at the events and not getting angry.

(11:47):
Yeah, I do. It makes me think even when weird stuff does happen now and there's
something outrageous happens, whoever's doing that, they know the reaction before
they do it, right? So they know.
And everyone who reacts then is falling into that reaction by just doing exactly
what they knew they would do, which is to divide everyone.

(12:08):
One the more everyone's pissed off at each other and disagreeing over things
but because they're doing stupid shit that's actually the whole thing instead
of everyone going maybe we should you know.
Get together and rebel or at least just
agree on things or find out that we've got more things in common or whatever
it might be it's keeping everyone divided and angry and
reacting there's a reaction cycle so they do something

(12:29):
everyone reacts they do something else to get the other side to react and
everyone's just causing a equal and opposite kind of
it's endless it makes no this it doesn't seem to go anywhere and
so it's there's it's if you want to it's like
flipping the board over and playing a different game or not playing in
those rules right so like the chess board the back
side of the chess board's probably blank or maybe has squiggly lines on

(12:50):
it so flip it over and play on that side don't try and fit in the that two-dimensional
grid that everyone's got on and moving pieces around because it's it's rigged
or it's just not ever going to really give you a different result unless you
go somewhere else yeah we have to
because i mean if If you look at what is presented to you on a political,
economical level, social level,

(13:11):
obviously that is all all right.
It either makes you angry, annoyed, or you shake your head in utter disbelief,
oh, this is possible to be formulated into sentences.
So on the other hand, when you listen to dedicated podcasts and when you listen
to physicists, When you listen to the latest development, which obviously no

(13:34):
one in the news is talking about.
Then you're getting, wow, what is happening here?
For example, that great podcast with Donald Hoffman a few weeks ago,
I Know Thyself, about what is consciousness.
If you're confused about the physical world, okay, I'll let it be behind.

(13:55):
Just listen to what these people have to say, and you'll realize,
okay, we are really truly embarking on a new understanding of reality,
because physicists all over the world, according to his position,
and according to the European Research Council that allocated 10 million euros
for this campaign to make sense of what these physicists are postulating and

(14:21):
discovering is the fact that fundamental to what we perceive in this world as
being measured by the equation of Einstein,
that time and space, etc.
However, now as they're discovering it's not absolute, it's not fundamental, and that consciousness.

(14:41):
Is not within this domain, and that is actually fundamental to it.
And what Donald Hoffman talks about it, which a lot of physicists embarking
on that mission to say that Eidegton was wrong, but say there's a fraction of
time and a fraction of space missing in the equation.
And I remember that growing up as a young boy with a father who started engineering

(15:03):
and physics at university in the 1930s, he was very, very highly influenced by Einstein.
And he said to me over and over about that fact that they used an unknown variable
in order to complete this equation.
And he said, what it means is in time, a new dimension will become available.
So he knew already that at university in 1935, 1938, they understood,

(15:27):
okay, we will be able to perceive a new dimension soon.
And they already spoke about that you will be able to measure four dimensions within time and space.
So time is not the dimension in that regard. That means there will be an additional dimension.
So that means basically five dimensions within time and space.
So what that means in terms of productivity and machinery, because my father

(15:52):
was an engineer, was obviously the big debate.
That means we have the ability to create a whole new complex of machinery because
the complexity applied when we move on to a new level.
And Donald Hoffman said, part of that European Research Council quest is to
allocate 10 million in euros for people to actually provide a definition of

(16:15):
what is actually of the fourth dimension within time and space, excluding time.
And so, because the measurement that Einstein has provided us with is the basis
for GPS and a lot of computer systems, et cetera.
Yeah. A lot of machinery is dependent on that. But once you actually default

(16:35):
that and discover new influences, you will have a totally new arsenal of products
available that we can't yet.
That means suddenly we are able to resolve problems that we just couldn't comprehend yet.
Yeah. Well, I mean, even... Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead.
That's obviously what we are embarking on. So there, as Donald Hoffman said

(16:58):
in the podcast, he said, okay, they are able to measure outside time and space.
They already are on there, and they're using, obviously, geometry in order to embark on this space.
And they're discovering all these geometric figures that they didn't see before.
However, they resemble a lot of that, what the ancients talked about within

(17:18):
the pyramids and things like that.
No, come on. No, they didn't know. That's ridiculous.
Yeah, what did they know? Yeah, they were just moving shit around with standing
logs and shit. They didn't know anything. They were nomadic.
Or they were sort of hunter-gatherers.
Yeah, it's showing more and more of the evidence that those buildings that have

(17:40):
passed on, have been passed on from previous civilization.
That would definitely work. Most likely they're used as a trigger to evolve
an additional dimension. What additional dimensions to that,
what is possible within time and space.
Right. And the result of that is able to actually have an impact on matter as before then.

(18:03):
Because if you've got a four-dimension excluding time within this time-space
parameter, what does it mean to a brick in front of you?
Yeah. Does that brick suddenly become something else?
Yes. Possibly. Or can you move it or manipulate it or do something with it that
we can't perceive as possible with that material? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Obviously, everyone who studies Tai Chi and martial art or karate understand

(18:26):
that one of your training is to engage with matter, with bricks, and to break.
For example, in karate, if you've got 12 bricks above each other,
the job is to break only brick 11.
Yeah. So how can you use the measurements of time and space within what we know

(18:46):
to only break brick 11? How do you do that?
And even with a big predicts degree, you probably wouldn't be able to do that.
It shouldn't really be possible, yeah.
Yeah, it shouldn't be because the ripple effect should affect impact on other bricks also.
You can't just suddenly go bypass a brick. If it bypasses a brick,

(19:08):
it bypasses time or space.
So it uses something else in order to bypass. And so obviously they're tapping
into something because in China's medicine, fundamental to all existence and creation is qi.
So they understand. They understand it's fundamental to everything is qi.

(19:28):
And then later, all this, then you have the different levels of qi and each
of the levels of qi, then more and more and more can be measured.
And by the time it reaches the level of the five elements, that's measured with
time and space, but you've got four levels before that can't be measured.

(19:50):
There can be experience. Yes, there can be experience. Yes, as Buckminster Fuller
said about, he called them invisibly integrating trends.
He said that we don't see, he called it the 99% invisible.
So he was sort of explaining that it's like, we don't see all the things that
are happening to bring forth something that we can perceive or touch or manipulate.
So there's all these things like, you know, immeasurable amount of things,

(20:14):
forces combining or other processes happening before we get into basically what
we consider to be third dimension and our version of reality.
So that there's like, he called it invisibly integrating trends.
So when something happens, like a new product comes out, an idea forms or a
world event happens, it seems like it's out of the blue.
We say that, right? Or it happened, we were surprised.

(20:35):
But then if we look a bit further back or understand those things that we're
building up to that, it's not a surprise.
It's all the same things that we're, exactly, there's always something happening
that we don't, just because something's happening on the other side of the world
or next door that I can't see doesn't mean it's not happening.
Well, maybe, because that's also what Donald Hoffman was saying about perception
versus what's happening. It's not real until you perceive it.

(20:57):
And what I thought interesting about Hoffman was that he was...
I do love the way he was describing his work and him being a cognitive psychologist,
that he's very much trained in Western sciences and understands all that and the language,
but he's very aware of what it can't do or what it's missing.
And he's very open to these other things. And I think he had such a great way
of establishing those things that are measurable and all those theorems and

(21:21):
what we consider to be normal now in the past hundred years of physics,
but also knows all this, you know, sort of describes all this other stuff in
a very rational way about perception,
about reality, about I love what he had to say about the how we go out of our
way to distinguish between the animate and the inanimate.
So we say people and animals and plants have.

(21:42):
Objects like this microphone or the cup that are disconnected from
us and they don't but here's the explanation around that
that's they're all connected in other ways it's something you never really hear
a typical western scientist say because there's a very clear definition between
what has a central nervous system what doesn't what has you know sentience and
what doesn't have sentience there's a huge debate around that which is why we

(22:02):
get into you know plants it's okay to kill plants because they have no sentience
but actually it's the opposite,
but i do think that's an interesting way forward is they have people like him
who bridged those areas of research and application, and what you just said,
the impact it can and will have on reality as we know it is huge.
Because I think Einstein probably knew what he didn't know. I think he knew

(22:26):
there was something that had to be plugged in to make his theorems work.
But I don't think he would have been happy that everyone held onto his theories so tightly until now.
I think he would have known there was something he couldn't answer
which is what you're supposed to do if you're a scientist or a
thinker or whatever you are to know there's something that can be added
on or improved upon but the

(22:49):
fact that everyone argues that no it breaks the laws of physics or the theory
of relativity i think he would have known better than to if he'd still be alive
like no we have to move past that and to keep going there's got to be something
missing there's like an ether or an energy or a force that's not measurable
or that we can't explain that's has an impact here so So, yeah.
Yeah, Woody obviously was really thinking, we don't know, you know,

(23:12):
that the bummer we didn't have, like, Twitter back in the days, yeah?
It would have been great to read his tweets, yeah? Yeah.
He probably would have been cancelled.
Or Elon Musk would have loved him. Yeah, he would have, yeah.
That would have just gone for it. Yeah, that would have just reached new levels.
And obviously, by the time you release a paper, You have to be really careful

(23:35):
of all different kinds of attack.
And he really nailed that really well in order to do that.
But the way I understand from my father who was discussing quantum physics as
a student every day with all the other students and professors,
that they looked at Einstein as a humble physicist who only saw himself as an,

(23:58):
he actually, he saw himself an instrument of God,
like something had to come through, but it was only the beginning of something
because it disrupted the perception of being matter as absolute.
It disrupted the Newtonian view of life.
It basically introduced the idea of qi in Chinese medicine, and that's why Niels

(24:24):
Bohr used the yin and yang as his- Yeah. It's kind of arms.
Yeah. Yeah, because he realized that, like, hang on, what we are embarking on
already has been the same research around 3,500 years ago by the ancient Taoists.
And so with the yin and yang describes it, because as soon as you can't ever
dissect the yin and yang, it's not possible.

(24:45):
It's always a field, but it always opens up to all kinds of possibilities.
And as soon as you go into that field of yin and yang, everything is possible.
So he understood that from what they're trying to articulate,
what is the quantum space, or he put into place by these ancient Taoists in
a very simple way, by looking at polarity as being as a whole something.

(25:09):
Entity rather than it being able to be reduced.
And so it allowed a holistic view to come in.
I mean, that was the same time when Jung entered the scene with Jungian psychology,
suddenly the holistic view that Rudolf Steiner with his ideas.
It was like the awakening of the Tao in the West.

(25:31):
Yeah yeah and oh of
course you had to somehow get a
working hypothesis in place and putting an unknown variable into that what doesn't
make quite sense yet was worked yeah yeah no and i think that's the point i
think it's good he was if he was a radical at the time and everyone's you know
everyone said the sun was the center of the universe and as soon as someone

(25:51):
said hey it's not it's you get you get bird at the stake and then later on everyone's
like ah that's right Right. Okay.
So now we'll base everything we know on that principle. Same with Einstein.
So people get put on pedestals eventually, but I think the mistake is always
making, when you forget that maybe the radical or the person who's got other
ideas has kind of got something important to say,
which is why the past few years have been so confounding because everyone keeps

(26:14):
forgetting that when there's dissidents and people who disagree or have a different
path and they go against them, quote unquote,
the mainstream or the masses, is a great saying be
careful when you follow the masses because sometimes the
m is silent so when we vilify
people for for having a different way of looking at things that's when
we make a mistake or miss something miss an opportunity the good

(26:37):
thing now is that there's so many i feel like it's it's
harder to silence those people now or to disagree with
them because we've got we're now connected so well to everyone
that we know we're building new communities and new ways of sharing information
so it was much easier to silence people you know
100 years ago 100 500 years ago because you
could paint them as a devil worshiper or

(26:59):
whatever they might be burn them at stake and say look you know heretic and
they're doing that now to make example of people but i think it's not working
because then as soon as you do that to someone and try and break down their
thing you get you get supporters that way because everyone wants a rebel yeah
i want someone who's thinking outside of it. We're looking for that.
I think that more keeps springing up because it gives people a little bit more opportunity to do that.

(27:23):
I think that putting knowledge on a pedestal and keeping it unable to change
or grow to be challenged is a much more sign of totalitarianism.
That's not creativity. That's not humanity.
But again, which is why it's so confusing when you see then some other people
really seem to think that's the good guys.
That's the people who are in control of everything are the ones who have our
best interests in mind, which is hilarious.

(27:44):
Yeah, this is where obviously spiritual beliefs come into it.
Let's say there's a certain amount of people who get it and there's a certain
amount of people who don't get it.
In which way, what that means is that like a separation in terms of two different
realities now starting to shape and split the atom of the cell and things like

(28:07):
that. So that could be one factor.
Then there's a Christian belief of a certain number will be saved and a lot
of people will be doomed.
I mean, there's a lot of other really incredible, like all kinds of ideas looking
at the fact, How come some simply understand there's brainwashing taking place and others don't?
It's a mystery to me that we all witnessed in 2020 when the vaccine roll came out.

(28:34):
How come some got it and other people really believe that it's a solution and
other people have that voice inside saying no?
I mean, I've been exposed to vaccines all my life, not all my life,
but in the early days when I was a social worker, it was a common thing to discuss.
Do you need a Hep C or Hep B or anything like that?

(28:58):
Because we were doing street work, we had to touch blood all the time.
We worked with ambulance officers.
And because you're obviously dealing with overdoses, so you've got bodily fluids
on your body quite frequently.
And so the debate of having a vaccine or not was just an ordinary discussion,
but there was nothing ever evoking a psychic response in me from an unknown

(29:22):
source of voice telling me no.
Yeah. I wasn't interested in the Hep Bs and Hep C vaccines, not because of a voice telling me.
I wasn't interested in it because
I was exposed to pretty tough conditions when I lived in Amsterdam.
I mean, the squads were really tough conditions of the drug users all around

(29:44):
me, vomiting all over me.
So I've been exposed to all kinds of invasions of bodily fluids from all different
angles and all different sources. and it never made me sick.
So I realized, okay, I don't think I get sick.
I now live a healthy life and being exposed to someone with a chance of vomiting over me or whatever.
So I didn't do any precaution then, and I didn't decide I don't need precaution either.

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So that was the motive of not getting vaccinated, but there was nothing avoid.
However, when this vaccine roll came out with the mRNA or whatever you want
to call that dreaded poison.
When that started rolling out, I never forget that day. I saw the annulment of that.
And the voice inside me said, there was this voice coming out and said, no.

(30:34):
But it wasn't me. I don't know. Yeah. You know what I mean? It was not acquired.
It was something that didn't come from me.
Yeah. And so is there some sort of like mystical arrangement going on and now
that actually provides information to those who are able to receive it and others not?

(30:56):
There was no way when at the start of the rollout to have any evidence that
this stuff is sinister poison and is there to brainwash you and therefore somehow
involved with some sort of global reduction of humanity and whatever pieces
you want to put onto it. Yeah.
I mean, you can put every speculation onto that. Yeah, absolutely.

(31:18):
Yeah. And it's like just about everything fits. Yeah.
Yeah, you can label it in many different ways, you're right.
And you're like, yep, I can see that.
I can see, you're right. You can see every possible scenario.
It was just a bunch of people making money.
Absolutely. It's a bunch of people rushing a decision. Yeah,
absolutely. It's completely intentional. Yeah, it makes perfect sense.

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You're right. It's all of it.
Yeah, reducing population to only 5 billion. Oh, why not? Fuck it.
Yes, I can see that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's just like, it's just incredible.
Yeah? So everything is possible now to look into that, but we didn't have that before. That's true.
And therefore, I've never experienced to have an inner voice so loud.

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And because, obviously, I spoke openly about it straight away,
right from the beginning, right from the start.
I put it right up on Facebook when the vaccine rollout started in 2019, early 2020.
Yeah, when it started. As soon as it was announced, I put up on Facebook,
I want you, Mr. Jeff, I want to fuck up my health.

(32:24):
How'd that go? Oh, my God. I know. I saw it.
Yeah. It's still to this day the most popular post of all times. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, you see now, some people just, when you watch someone post something really
interesting, and you read the comments, some people just say,
I'm just here to read the comments.
The first comment is like, I'm just here to see the comments.

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And I remember going, I'm just going to read the comments. It's going to be incredible.
Yeah. Yeah, that post had like 2,000 comments.
And my God, how many people told me, it's not about you, it's about community.
Oh, yeah. And then other people, yes, I'm with you.
It was like, boom, I said, shit. Yeah, it's amazing the people who talked about
community were the least likely to do anything about the community until that moment.

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And suddenly they realized they could be heroes, you know? It's like, what have you done?
Have you been out there in the community helping people this whole time?
Or what, have you been a selfish, unhealthy, one can of Coke away from diabetes person?
Because I saw a lot of people who just suddenly became heroic and empowered
by this external thing and found an opportunity to talk down to people.
And that was so transparent.

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But where did it come from? Where did that get?
This is the ... Look, when I wrote that post up, there was no Facebook censoring yet.
Not yet, yeah. It didn't exist. You could say whatever.
You could put the most vicious, ridiculous stuff on Facebook back in the day. Yeah? Yeah.
I mean, I'm with Facebook right from the start, nearly 20 years now.

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It was like it didn't have any control back to us, yeah.
It just click-bagged. Click-bagged was that matter. up.
But where did the voice came from to say no? Where did the voice came from to say yes?
That was like, whoa, what's going on here? That's when I started to realize.
And this is probably what is now with the physicists realizing that there is

(34:16):
a fraction of time and space missing in the equation of Einstein,
and that fundamental to the measurement within in time and space is,
in fact, consciousness,
and bringing back to what my father said, that there's a new dimension able
to be perceived soon as a result of that unknown variable in that equation.
Maybe this is what we're experiencing first, okay, because us who said no right

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from the start, we knew not to take that step.
It didn't come from us. It came from Elbert.
Because that's why I stressed it before, because I was exposed with vaccine
use, and yes, I know in social work, and I never had that mystical agency behind me.
So then back then you were saying it was like, well, obviously I don't need

(35:03):
it because of Amsterdam and all that stuff. It was a rational thing.
It was based on knowledge.
Yeah, it was like, it wasn't mystical.
It was like, that was nothing. So that's what it is. and no one
said anything if you refused or not it was complete no no no absolutely not
I remember that in the office there were 50 other community workers all in the

(35:28):
Brisbane office and they said okay it's time to get you we got our,
HAP-B's and HAP-C's whatever available for those who want that was one announcement
that took about a minute and no one ever spoke about it it.
And so no one asked, have you got your vaccine?
No one, no one, no one, not one person ever afterwards, it was considered,

(35:52):
I think one person, oh, you're not getting back?
No, no, don't worry about it. Okay. Oh, that's interesting. Great. That was it. Move on.
Yeah. Not so I was like, you know, you're a son,
you know, you're my grandmother and stuff like
that you know yeah you know so uh so it there
was nothing come from a moment from the soul
outside the perceived perception

(36:15):
at that moment yeah right so if you're tapped into okay because does that mean
the source can be bad because if you're you're tapped into so no no no it can't
be bad right so it can't be bad it's just uh you're exactly it's it's it's not
coming through it's It's not so, yeah.
Yeah. And, and it's not coming. Yeah. If it's not coming through,

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if the information of the source not coming through, you get brainwashed by
that. What, what happens in the physical?
So the voice that other people got was from the physical.
They didn't get a voice. They say, do it, yes. Yeah, yeah, they were brainwashed. That's a tough voice.
The connection towards that fundamental nature of life, for some reason,

(36:59):
that connection was cut off.
So the transmission from the source towards you was disconnected.
Yeah. And so that means for whatever lifestyle.
I mean, you look at it, as we spoke some times before in previous podcast,
Like there was 20 years of development in the making of this vaccine rollout

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first by taking people into a very unhealthy path first.
Yes. And obviously having the fast food and having the stress,
having the faster and faster lifestyle, you're getting more and more disconnected from source.
And eventually you really are like a reactive protoplasm within this dimension
of matter and space and not really thinking about yourself as a cosmic self anymore.

(37:42):
And the result of that is you're really subject to a lot of influences from
within the triggers of the physical.
And this is obviously all along what China's medicine always outlined as being
the danger of being here,
that your perception of reality is dominated by the influences of the physical

(38:04):
world, rather than you're getting your perception of reality from the source
that transcends the physical world.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so it's getting hacked then, basically.
Yeah, so it needed, first of all, like creating a very fast lifestyle.
It needed to create like a deprivation of nutrients.

(38:25):
It needed to create like an overuse of smartphones and entertainment facilities
in order to get people entangled in the triggers of the physical so that they
don't have a connection to the cosmic.
Because the cosmic doesn't want us to die. that they want us to grow.
But the forces that have entered this world, this earth here,

(38:48):
that have got a sinitum motive, want to influence the soul in terms of interfering
with the development of the soul.
Yes? So that's obviously what that big battle between the good and the bad is about.
But if there's no source for that, and there's no source for that evil,
that's coming from here, though, right?
Where those forces can't... Yeah, it's here. It's here. It's here in the political.

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It can't be. There's no source for it. It's here.
But it should be easy to win then.
Yeah, as long as you keep yourself totally rooted in your true nature.
You need to have your anchor in the true nature. If you've got your anchor in the true nature,
that means you perceive yourself as your cosmic being and you understand what

(39:33):
actually your true purpose of being here is,
rather than trying to live for security and making a living and somehow to succeed in this physical.
If all you have is based on you trying to succeed here without actually looking
behind, what is actually the
whole lifeline of your soul, your soul cycle rather than your life cycle.

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Then obviously you've got a whole different agenda and a totally different motivation.
Yeah? Yeah. So if you wake up every morning and you're connecting yourself to your true nature first,
if you're going right in and you are fully connected to your cosmic self,
that means you have transcended these measurements of time and space and you're

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actually perceiving yourself from a source that transcends all that what the physical is.
You're influenced by that. And that means information is constantly moving into
you from a source, not from here.
And more and more and more, day
by day, you get more and more and more understanding about who you are.

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So in many ways, being here is a means of discovering our true self.
But because we've got such an enormous compression of that on us now, it's such a need.
It's like living 50 years ago, it's like going to the gym and putting 10 kilograms
on your bench press, whereas living these days in 2024 is you go to the gym

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and you put 100 kilograms on your bench press, yeah?
And that's far more pressure, yes? Yeah, yeah. And that is considered piezoelectricity.
And piezoelectricity means it's pressure on the crystalline arrangement,
and our body is essentially a crystalline arrangement. management.
It's a meridian pathways and they're crystalline. And that means the life that

(41:25):
we're having right now that we are exposed to have got a massive pressure on our meridians.
And the result of that is we got the opportunity now to actually deobstruct
crystalline, arrange obstructions and blockages and allow free flow to our inner
true self that previously,

(41:45):
was not possible because you were not considering.
Like when you live in the 80s, we look, living in the 80s was like the most
carefree living of all time in the West.
Living in the 80s was like paradise in comparison to what we ever seen now,
because you just sleep for party, no one had any fears about the future, there was so much work.

(42:10):
And to buy a V8 only cost like $8,000, and to buy a house was $25,000,
and the Philadelphia You guessed tank was like $2.50.
Yeah, something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you got pissed off with one work. You left it behind. You went to the next stop.
Yeah, so and then you just didn't care anyway because you couldn't wait to go

(42:32):
to the pub and meet your mates.
And then everyone there drinking and then party on Saturdays.
And the bands were incredible.
Australian Crawl, Midnight Oil, Cold Shizzle. It was just living it up.
Yeah. and so it was living in excess, yes?
And so obviously no one talked about,

(42:53):
Who am I? Unless you had a 10-day bender.
Right, then you probably rethink your choices and say never do it again.
I'll never do that again and then do it next weekend.
But then you didn't go and probe much about yourself rather than,
okay, I've got a bit of a hangover here.

(43:15):
No, you turned not to. I'm fine again, yeah? No, you turned not to.
Yeah, that was the only probing was. doors well
that's the thing is like i'll kind of survive my hangover yeah you
know it's like going to a shopping center mall and it's
it's it's there to distract you and then you make sure there's more and more
things to look at and to buy but i tend to find that's a place where i have

(43:36):
an existential crisis because i'm like what am i doing here and what's what's
the nature of reality and and like that's where i actually where i have a the
external world is where i become the most introspective because then i'm like
well i can't make any sense of that here it's gonna go and
spend money and buy stuff or it's like you know go somewhere else
so i think all the stuff that's that's available
to us now which is disconnected from nature and you know

(43:58):
everything's on demand we don't have to go even go to a video store
anymore to watch a movie even though they don't exist right you have to
go to the movie theater even the things that were even even
like i would say convenient like go and go entertain somewhere even
becoming more and more you're less likely to go out and do those things because
they're delivered to you then this disconnection from you know spirituality
is a joke which i get why because it was became a bit ridiculous when the hippie

(44:22):
movement became a corporate kind of movement which became like spiritual narcissism
which turned all all those things into something that's.
A bit silly, a bit made no sense, got disconnected and everyone kind of blew
up and the new age didn't really work too well.
Then you saw religion became ridiculed and Christianity becoming ridiculed and
it became a joke, which it had a coming because it has a lot of doctrine,

(44:44):
a lot of dogma that's awful and it probably needed a bit of scrutiny,
but it seemed like it was a gradual undermining of all these things.
Disconnect from that nature, spirituality, belief
and go over here and consume and watch and
have things delivered to you and live in the outside world because that's it's
here for you and the more you do that then the outside world says get in line

(45:05):
and do this inject this otherwise you know all that's gone everyone just goes
yeah okay like it was very an easy very easy process because there was no it was yeah it was planned,
it was you know it's a process yeah yeah so it is where you can see that's very
simple and i think the term brainwashing is interesting because it's not really
your brain though is it like at that point, what actually is actually the thing

(45:28):
that's being corrupted?
Because you say that consciousness doesn't live in the brain or the mind.
The mind is somewhere else. So what's actually happening?
The Taoists don't use the word brain for that reason. And they use the term perceiving agent.
And it's a very interesting point. So we are a perceiving agent.

(45:50):
And that perceiving agent is structured and dependent on your organ because
in Chinese medicine, that perceiving agent has in fact got its own structure of hardware.
It's like a computer. Yeah. And it's a 12-bit computer because you've got 12 organs.
And each organ provides a very specific element in order for you to have your perceiving agent.

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And the organs in China's medicine are written in upper cases in order to indicate
it's not the physical organ.
That's an agreement among scholars internationally.
So that means when we talk about the spleen in upper cases S,
it is actually that spleen that exists beyond time and space.

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And that actually exists before you have a physical form.
And then you've got your liver, you've got your lung, and then they're all communicating
with each other via the cycle, which is a T-cycle.
And that cycle of the organs then, that's your perceiving agent.
So your perceiving agent now, here in the physical, now is exposed to those

(47:08):
triggers that are generated by the physical world. Yeah, because that's what the physical is.
It's a trigger, which from a physics perspective, those triggers act on you
to collapse the waveform into a particle so we perceive it as matter.
So without a trigger, it can't actually collapse into a particle.
So our fundamental nature is the waveform.

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Then those waveforms are structured in Chinese medicine via the 12 organs.
Those 12 of organs then become your perceiving agent so that they're not your
soul as such, they're your perceiving agent.
So that's a perceiving agent that enters here this domain of the physical.
And now with that perceiving agent, you're exposed to the triggers of the physical

(47:52):
in order to act on the waveform so that it can collapse and then create the
reality or the simulation if you want to call it.
Yeah, so it's somewhere in hardware. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So when we talk about this consciousness in the brain and when brainwashing
takes place, that's actually an incorrect term.
From a Chinese medicine perspective, it's ignorant.

(48:15):
That means because what we are is the perceiving agent that is acted on. So if you're.
The regions, your pathways, or your information network towards your energy organs,
the fundamental nature, the spleen and upper cases S, the liver and upper cases

(48:36):
L, like your fundamental organ, if that information network is impaired or disconnected,
then your perceiving agent is simply only within the domain of those triggers of the physical.
So, what happens now is you take on exactly that, what has been passed on to
you. You don't scrutinize it.

(48:57):
You don't go into analysis. You don't allow your true self to come in and say, no, that's bullshit.
Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah? Yes.
So, the life that we experienced over the last 20 years due to the fast food, the sugars,

(49:19):
the enormous excessive entertainment ability now to be on the smartphone all
day to watch movie on demand,
you actually never have any opportunity to establish this transmission,
mission, this network, towards your fundamental nature, to the organ system,
therefore your perceiving agent is now limited to that, what the physical acts on you.

(49:45):
And that means you perceive life within that, what the physical has been given to you via triggers.
So that means that you are in that moment subject to the waveform collapsing
into particles as in accord with the demands and instructions of the physical world. Right.
Yeah. So that means now you are, in technical terms, brainwashed.

(50:09):
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So whereas if you constantly open up your pathways towards
the fundamental nature,
that means your perceiving agent
is not limited to that, what the external triggers are embarking on you.
You've got far more options to act on the triggers on you by collapsing those

(50:35):
waveforms into particles as in line with the nature of the cosmos.
So it means you actually start perceiving a totally different way of creating a reality.
So that means certain practices are essential.
So it's not about the point fighting the establishment because that's what they do.

(50:57):
Because they're going to do more and more and more.
But if you transcend and go into your network that now transcends the dimension
of the physical, then you have a totally different way of approaching it.
Yeah. And who knows what's possible with this because they're starting to measure

(51:20):
outside the time and space equation and discovering all kinds of geometric figures
and believing there could be,
at this stage, they're assuming there could be millions and millions or even
not even billions of different dimensions.
So because within the domain of time and space, you only got those four dimensions
available at the moment.

(51:40):
String theory allows to measure 11 dimensions within time and space.
Faith but if you go outside what that
means in here we don't know yet yeah and
obviously this is now where the tajima come into this
is where the martial art master that's where the yogis come into because when
you look at the feast of the yogis is mind-boggling and it's just it's not not

(52:03):
acquired in the physical you know no even even the training doesn't make sense
the stuff that I've seen and I'm aware of. It doesn't mix. There's no explanation for it.
Yeah, it's not a rational training. It's not a rational training.
No. So it's not like an Olympic training. No. Okay, I'm going to jump like 2.23m
and maybe if I train hard, I get 2.24m and then the cat looks at that and jumps 5m.

(52:29):
Without, no training. No training. Yeah.
That's right. And then looks at you very silly. Yeah, yeah. What are you doing?
Well, you don't follow me.
Where did the cat get that from?
Yeah. Yeah. It's obviously the cat adds on its nature. Where did it come from?

(52:52):
Yeah. Yeah. It's just like the cat hasn't got bigger muscles than a high jumper
from the Olympics. Yeah. Yeah.
Hasn't been doing steroids, I'm sure, or lifting. Yeah. and it's not and then
the athlete is not weaker because they're vaccinated yeah and it's got nothing
to do with that like look at the back for the,

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The bark flea jumps 50 meters its size, 50 times its size.
So, my God, where did that come from? Yeah? Yeah.
And there's so many factors that we need to understand.
That is, obviously, the animal kingdom is being given gifts from the other side. They got the grace.
Yeah? As the yogis call it, the grace. They got given the grace.

(53:34):
And that means information from the source is coming in. and the animals obviously
have got a direct connection to it and therefore live in accord with that.
And every animal has got a very specific connection to a specific aspect of the sword.
Yes, like a crocodile got its own strength and that's the power, yeah, a bird.

(54:01):
I mean, you can't say what's stronger, a bird or a crocodile because what a
bird does, a crocodile can't do. it.
And there's really not much difference. Okay, it's got a few feathers,
but that's not what makes it fly. There's something else.
We think it's the feathers, but I don't think it's the feathers.
I think it's just like... Well, that's the measuring. Right.
You're trying to measure everything.

(54:22):
It's like the bird knows. The bird knows. I fly. It knows. I'm programmed to fly, so it will fly.
And so, of course, if you cut its wing, then it can't fly. But on the other
hand, And what happens if you transcend that?
Bang, what goes on here? Because yogis travel distances without using any comes

(54:45):
of time and space, measurement, and just appear at a certain place at a certain
time in accordance with their old will.
And so we know from Tajima that when we get punched, what that feels like in
that realm and time and space do not exist.
Yeah, or thrown. Even watching it doesn't make sense. Yeah.
There's no real way to explain it. It doesn't seem to... You think you've seen

(55:07):
it, but then later on you go, I didn't actually see the move.
I didn't see the... Yeah, yeah.
It's two different things. Yeah, and the yogis, what they do in terms of sleeping
underwater or sleeping in fire and all kinds of stuff.
Yeah yeah but it seems like yes it's like animals don't and yogis and masters
don't don't disrupt that they don't sit in front of netflix you know there's

(55:29):
there's not they're not interrupting their wave right they're not they're not
what's the word again they're not,
corrupting their perceiving agents because they have to direct
with their nature correct they have no they're not sitting in
traffic on the way to the amazon struggle that morning they're
not getting road rage they're not you know drinking coffee before they
eat they're not sleeping in they're not having sugary breakfast

(55:49):
cereal they're doing all the things in accord with their
nature and therefore accessing to the benefits
of that nature because they're they're supporting it so by supporting their
nature the cat doing what the cat does it's their nature ability to jump great
heights or see in the dark or all these things that it does amazing is because
it's feeding itself is that right yeah yeah that's correct yeah it's called like the yogi it Yeah,

(56:13):
it's cultivating and it trains the connection to soul. It doesn't train the action.
In Tai Chi, when you do Tai Chi, you're not training the action,
you're training the connection, the alignment. Yeah. Yeah.
If you focus on training the action in the Tai Chi, that means now you're using

(56:34):
a delay mechanism because by the time the brain perceives it,
it's already past. Yeah.
That's what neuroscience understands now, which is in line with the research
of consciousness, that the brain can't be true because by the time there's a
delay mechanism between the perception and how the brain actually acts on it.
It's minimal, so minimal, but it's a delay.

(56:56):
That means every time we talk, we're already behind. Every time we think, we're already behind.
And so that means in Tai Chi, you don't focus on the action.
The idea is to transcend the action in order to discover the Tao, the field.
And the more you've discovered the field, in that moment, you up your consciousness.

(57:17):
So it's pure consciousness that moves you. And in that moment,
you feel unified with all the fields and with the trees, with everything.
But in the moment you're going to reflect on it, bang, you're behind it.
And now you're moving outside. side and that's what the yogi and the tai chi
and the masters obviously focus on is to cultivate the connection towards a

(57:39):
source so not to use the brain, not to use thinking,
not to use that what causes a delay,
Yeah. Yeah. And because in that moment, you have access to something.
You don't know what it is, but man, it acts through you. Yes. Yeah.
And so obviously, that's what you always do. They spend all day on cultivating that process.

(58:05):
They would not waste the time on doing something that corrodes it because sugar corrodes the pathways.
It's a fact that certain substances corrode those pathways.
If you wake up and you go straight into your phone and you watch your Netflix

(58:26):
or you watch social media, you corrode the pathway. You're cutting off.
And so, therefore, it's not that the phone is not the problem.
The phone is never the problem. The screen is never the problem.
The tech is not the problem.
It's your behavior which is the problem. yeah yeah

(58:47):
just maybe think of course yeah yeah there was that was what
i was saying earlier i'll go back on in a bit or just this
rethink what i said is about um the sort of
all those mechanisms make us fight each
other so it's like division is a good thing
it's a good marketing ploy right people divided they argue they interact
more they use your product more so social media is a business model once people.

(59:08):
Fighting and disagreeing that's where the comments happen yeah yeah
and i was thinking like obviously it's good when people divided and and
seeing more differences than similarities but then
i'm thinking on what you're saying is is it's really they
want us fighting with ourselves so it's like we have to unify or
get on our own side but it's before we
start finding what side to be on outside because if we're like oh

(59:28):
i'm going to pick the democrats republicans or labor and
liberal same same people same coins the
two birds are sorry two wings on the same bird but the
idea is more like making peace with ourselves or allying
with ourselves cells by not connect not being able to disconnect from ourselves
because everything you're describing there is these are
these mechanisms of sugar and external stimulus and

(59:50):
things that are being you know offered to us we're choosing to use them
are actually making us fight ourselves because we're
fighting our true nature or we're cutting yeah off from our
true nature so there's no way in that state can
we possibly think to fight an external battle you know
or to pick it aside or do those things if we're corrupted or
corroded inside because that's always going

(01:00:11):
to be a distorted signal and distorted reason for doing
things like picking a side because you're the opposite to an
issue like i'm i'm going to fight that issue or fight that side means you live
in the opposition to that side which is a reaction which means it can't be who
you really are because someone's made a position that you disagree with that
seems doomed to fail unless you yeah it is doomed to fail, it is.

(01:00:35):
Start from within, which is the fun of your nature, which is to not let it get
distorted or distort it through your perceiving agents for your physical body,
which is all those things we're describing, which have become normal.
Even now, I hear people over here talking about being sick because everyone's
sick all the time. Flus and all sorts of stuff is endless.
But it's kind of always been that way. It's more now because it seems to be

(01:00:58):
going through everyone faster for some reason. I don't know why.
But it's always like everyone loves talking about how they got sick.
Oh, you know, I was really sick this weekend.
It's almost like more likely to brag or talk about being sick than feeling healthy.
And I've noticed this now. Now, the more I listen, the more I've noticed,
like, it's rare to hear people say, I got up and I felt great and I did this

(01:01:19):
and I did that and I was really energetic.
It's always, it's like, it's okay to talk about how bad you feel because everyone
then agrees with you and it's more fun to talk about how you're being sick. Oh yeah, I got sick.
And then it's trying to find who
they got sick from. Oh, that person was sneezing and they made me sick.
And it's like blaming the person for it. I'm like, that's not why you got sick.
Yeah, yeah. You completely on the outside, disconnected and thinking it's because

(01:01:42):
they gave something to you you didn't say maybe it's because i didn't take my
vitamin c and d and didn't you know do whatever all those things that you can
do to prevent being ill so there's this always a need to have a fight or antithesis
to something or blame something outside of you for the situation.
Versus where were you in that what what what did
you do on that side i think it's i've noticed that more lately than

(01:02:04):
ever before that it's that it's it's
something it's got to be something else it's got to be about what side you're
on that thing or who caused the thing or whose fault it is then where are you
in that and whoever you are in that because that you can't even i don't know
it's always not worth talking about sometimes you just know that that's not
the thing and you work on your own side so but i think that's amplified i think

(01:02:26):
that's for sure happening,
more than ever now or maybe i'm just picking up on it more but it seems like
a definitely if you think back it's a progression it didn't come out of nowhere
it's been a slow build-up to this situation now where that's a normal thing
to do is to pick that it's because of that other that or that person's politics,
or that person's choice, or that side is because why you are having a bad experience.
Yeah, because of the separation, simply the way of lifestyle we are experiencing

(01:02:51):
is disconnecting us from that what comes from the source, because if you're
connected to the source, you have that perfect health.
If you've got direct access to the source, and the source is moving direct towards
you, the cheese coming through is going to neutralize all kinds of poison into the neck.
That's what the yogis always talk about it.

(01:03:12):
Alcohol is not the problem. If you develop your consciousness on such a level,
you're going to neutralize the focus of the alcohol where it's not a problem,
but you have to develop it first, yeah.
And so, of course, if you have a disconnection to the source,
that means there's a lot of ...
The liver, for example, will have far too much heat aspect.

(01:03:33):
So, if you're drinking alcohol now, the behavior that is triggered via that
perceiving agent of the liver then obviously makes you see anyone an enemy and
you will go to lash out and become aggressive.
Whereas if you work with consciousness on such a high level,
we get all the pathways towards the liver.
So the perceiving agent has got this direct access to the soul.

(01:03:56):
So when you drink alcohol, it will not actually make you perceive the external
world as an enemy, and you will not have any desires to let out.
So alcohol is not the problem. It's always what happens in people.
Of course, in the initial stages of the path, first of all, it probably works.
It would help to reduce those substances that actually interfere with the transmission

(01:04:20):
of that energy from the source coming to us to clear the blockages.
But once the blockages are cleared, then you have a clear idea about what in
effect is what makes you feel bad and what makes you feel good.
And that means you're not dependent on what other people tell you.
You're not dependent on dogma.
You're not dependent on misleading ideas because, I mean, the internet is full

(01:04:41):
of misleading ideas about what's going on.
And I feel sorry for those who have no connection to the source,
who are completely subject to the information derived from the physical,
which that means one person says do this, the next person contradicts it and says do that.
And in all time, you're going in circles and you have no idea what's going on anymore.

(01:05:03):
So when I look at theories and someone suggests to do this, I'm going to first
of all look into, okay, what are they really being? in.
And so I ponder on it and I go into the meditation with it and then I suddenly,
through a process I'm directly connected to the source, I then suddenly get
information from the soul to enlighten me about that particular aspect.

(01:05:26):
And I suddenly understand from within what to do about it.
So this is obviously where what we are facing now is nothing else other than
the universe forces us with this mass spiritual awakening. It's all part of
the the spiritual process.
So we have to think this incredible madness and stupidity that goes on because
it actually shows us we have no choice other than to go within and go now into

(01:05:51):
the mystery of life because that, what is presented to us.
Stupid it was funny
because every time you say anything now like you know especially in the past
few years about you know you know research into vitamin d3 and or saying you
know the masks don't work all these things that were became you know topics
of conversation and people go what's your source you know what's the what are

(01:06:16):
you deciding and now you can go my source is the source,
yeah and see what happens what's what's the source it yes the source but what's
what is that source source, it's the source.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm citing my source, and my source is the source to everything.
And obviously, you're reading the wrong source. So, I don't know what to say.

(01:06:36):
Yeah, where's the source come from? Is it from the physical,
or is it a source from the mystical? Yeah, it's not the career, man.
Yeah, so, obviously, the source is the mystical tool.
Yeah, so, your library and your reference is the mystical tool.
So it would be a good one for paper, Mr. Goodsall, page 25.

(01:06:56):
I just thought, yeah.
Yeah. The iconic record. Yeah.
Peering reviewed by St. Germain and, you know, Yogananda peer reviewed.
Yeah, yeah. Mary, Mother Mary.
Yeah, yeah. She released it. It's cited by her, yeah. Yeah, there's a few of them.

(01:07:17):
That but the fact is like you would have spoken you have spoken like that 40
50 years ago it would have been considered like a mental illness and now speaking
like that is actually essential.
Essential service yeah it's an essential service there's no other way yeah it's

(01:07:40):
funny it was like during covid there was like if you weren't and you're a non-essential
business you didn't have a right to think but i think the essential business
now is to be a bit out of your mind. So that's an essential.
It's actually a disagreement.
I'm essential. Yeah, what has been considered mental illness now is actually mental health.
Genius, yeah. And what is mental health considered? It's not mental illness.
The whole thing is just...

(01:08:02):
It sort of switched sides. It's incredible. It's incredible.
That's why he's just like, we're good at this. I don't take sides to anything.
And I like listening to the others. I always take every day like 10 minutes
of news, so I find it very entertaining to see what's going on.
Enormous, like how they put Kamala Harris on the pedestal, and they put Trump

(01:08:26):
on the pedestal, they put that person on the pedestal.
Yeah, it's very interesting. Obviously, I have no trust in anything, so I know exactly,
it's like it's so behind the scene projected by completed pauses,
just like it's someone out there was doing something, so we can't,
it's not real, and that, as you said, maybe you don't even know if they exist.

(01:08:49):
Is there any proof that these people actually do exist?
I don't think that, no. Well, you know what you're saying.
You have no idea what you're looking
at anymore, especially if it's on a screen, less likely to be real.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody puts like a big meme about Camilla Harris is going to save the world.
Ideally, the question would be, have you actually seen her? Have you actually
touched her? Yeah. And the same with Trump.

(01:09:11):
So we say, what goes on here? We don't even know it.
I don't know. But that's a good thing about that is we know we don't know what's
going on anymore, but we have to connect to something.
So therefore, connecting to source is really the only way.
Yeah. So this is now really the universe is telling us, look,
don't you get the message?

(01:09:31):
The physical is irrelevant. It's what you're focusing on in our world because
you're trying to make sense of the physical. Have you realized that you can't?
It's almost like the master's coming through to us and having a game on us here.
Yeah, that's why they lined up. They're like, really? Come on.

(01:09:52):
Haven't you noticed? Are you really believing this is real? Are you really believing
that speaking the truth?
Are you really believing that this is actually helping a change?
Yeah, come on. It's like, whoever is going to be elected in November in America, what will that do?
Nothing will happen. It will continue because it's about what happens in people's heads and bodies.

(01:10:17):
It's the perceiving agent of the individual which determines the outcome.
Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If everyone is completely unhealthy
and sick and completely disconnected from source, it doesn't matter who is going
to be winning the election. It's going to be a chaos.
Yeah i'm aware that's guaranteed yeah but um i
was watching a thing that billy carson said recently and he's like this whole

(01:10:38):
election thing is ridiculous he's like vote for yourself stop voting
for people outside of you stop focusing on politics stop
focusing on other people he's like go to the ballot box and write
me i'm voting for myself i'm and i was
like this is great i'll have to send this to you it's a great rant because
it makes perfect sense he's like why are we doing this this never works right
this is a ridiculous system don't play

(01:11:00):
by the the rules do something ridiculous and vote for yourself for president right
so like i'm gonna next time i'm voting
i'm putting that not like albanese whoever the other fuckwit is
like yeah it's gonna be me but hopefully no one else does that because i don't
want to yeah i can't imagine everyone said it everyone if everyone puts on me
vote for myself wow that is that is an awakening of society yeah that's awesome

(01:11:21):
i think we should all do that because i think he makes it a great thing he's
like stop waiting for this stop blaming other people stop thinking the system is there for you.
Do your own thing. Empower yourself. Be your own. It was great.
It was a really great message because it just cuts through red and blue and
up and down and left and right.
Yeah, it's just like, look at all the chaos that's now erupting in England.

(01:11:42):
That's only because of people's disconnection to source.
If people were connected to source, they wouldn't react like that.
Because everyone's so disconnected from the years of the lockdowns,
the years of fast food, the suppression of all the emotions,
not able to be exercised, not able to go outside the fresh air.

(01:12:02):
All that now, really volatile.
It doesn't matter who is in power. It doesn't matter what they say.
Just people who are real.
Absolutely. It's not reached the point where it doesn't matter who.
You can put next door's neighbor's dog as a president. That's going to be tricky.
It's going to trigger everyone. I'd vote for him.

(01:12:24):
I don't even know his name. Ralph. Good job, Ralph for president.
Yeah, yeah. Ralph, yeah. Ralph, Ralph.
You do the Chihuahua dog. Put him as the president.
100%. You'd get a lot of votes, actually. Oh, seriously. If you had a dog, you would get a lot.
The Chihuahua party. Yeah. My Chihuahua dog knows what's going on.
Vote for him. Yeah? Yeah. Nature. The Nature Party. Yeah. You have dogs and

(01:12:48):
birds and crocodiles in the parliament.
Vote for me.
Vote for me. Who are you voting for? Me. You're voting for me? I'll vote for me.
No, you? No, no. You should vote for you. I'll vote for me. We all vote for me.
Who's me? Yeah. The landslide win of elections.

(01:13:09):
Who's me? The person reading the news? I don't understand. It'd be really confusing.
It'd be great. We'd just shut everything down.
Yeah, you would shut everything down. And I think I mean, sooner or later,
it will shut itself off anyway because people's reactive patterns are reaching
the point of being unresolvable.
Right. It's a failing business model. Companies don't stay in business if no

(01:13:32):
one buys their products anymore, and it happens pretty quickly.
Right? So if someone stops buying your stuff, they go out, you can't survive.
So it's fewer people that consume your product that either automatically do
a pivot and change your advertising campaign, which is what we're seeing now.
They're trying to have the new campaign, you know, they've tried the pandemic, then they try again.

(01:13:52):
They keep trying different business models, but it's too late because I think
it's like, there's enough people who are like, I'm not buying anything you're selling.
I don't care how you repackage it. I don't care what you call it.
Maybe you should propose them and say, look, I want to go on a think tank to
create some new strategy or some new marketing talents, you know,
obviously climate change doesn't work anymore.

(01:14:12):
The pandemic doesn't work anymore. Maybe they'll look at something else,
like something that no one talked about. Yeah.
Careful, because I'm sure we're going to find out what that is pretty soon.
I'm sure that's happening right now. Yeah. We're going to find out next week.
Yeah, next week, yeah. That's why, yeah, the pace is like that,
yeah. Everyone's waiting for the...

(01:14:34):
We've been waiting for aliens. Everyone's waiting for the alien thing,
UFOs, so it could be the next one.
And maybe then the aliens come down and then they're fighting with each other,
with other aliens, and then completely...
I think it's happened before. Yeah, probably it's happened before,
so why wouldn't it happen again? Yeah, they don't all get along. Yeah.
Graves and Anunnaki and the Shapeshift, all these reptilians,

(01:14:56):
they're not going to get along.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They just start arguing with each other and then we completely
become irrelevant. Yeah, that's right.
But in the meantime, we've always got access to the source, so we've got our
perceiving agent, which is made of the 12 organs, and we've got our meridian
system, because that's what they can't take from us.
The meridian system is fundamental to time and space, so that's fundamental

(01:15:20):
to anything that can be measured, but it can be experienced,
and it can only be experienced by alignment, and obviously that's the T-cycle life stone.
So anyone wanting to know how to align and how to become the perceiving agent
of your of your true self with my physical health cycle yeah it's all there
i've been working i've been,
working on it for 40 years so it's all there and yeah i'm providing all that

(01:15:42):
information by that because it is really i experience it myself like you turn
life more and more into a comedy rather than actually you're actually getting
affected but yeah tragedy is just sort of like you observe You use yourself,
and then you feel yourself as your true self, and therefore now you live eternal forever.

(01:16:05):
And you utilize every moment as a means to connect to that, and in order to
cultivate that, because that's who you truly are.
It's just a temporary thing in here, and who knows what's next year. Anyways, Christine.
Christine Bader- Yeah.
Might be in a totally different dimension. Who knows? They might be discovering

(01:16:26):
two more dimensions and they pack that in and that means completely new machinery.
But that's the thing, the number of dimensions. Yeah, the number of dimensions.
If it's more than one, it's infinite. I don't buy the 11 dimensions thing because
that just feels like made up.
It's like if there's more than one dimension, it's got to be infinite amount.
Like that's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to understand, right?
You know? It makes no sense to count them all.
Yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, that's exactly the whole point, you know?

(01:16:49):
But in order to have one machine, They had to measure it within that.
But as the equation shows, it's incomplete.
So it's far more. It's far more. It's infinite.
So when they say four-dimensional or three-dimensional, it's in fact infinite
because you've got that fraction missing.

(01:17:10):
Yeah. Apparently, there's a theory that the Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland is already done.
It's already opened up a new portal and stuff's come through.
So there's a lot of that theory. Oh, yeah. You have to read about it. It gets pretty hectic.
I don't know where to draw the line, but as to what we just said about what
to believe and how to believe, you may as well just look at it because some
people have said like, yeah, they saw things open, things coming through that

(01:17:33):
when it turned on, it already did something.
It already had some effects that they didn't tell anybody about.
Because I don't think you can't do that kind of work and not have it do something right.
There was even an article, an article a few years ago, because remember when
they finished it and they said it wasn't working, there was an article saying,
It may not be working because the future is preventing it from working because

(01:17:55):
they're saying no don't turn it on because it's gonna do Something and there was a whole whole thing.
It was really interesting and I Yeah, yeah, like the feeling from the future
But I think that amount of intent and money and engineering effort can't have not done something,
So what that thing is or things is pretty interesting.

(01:18:16):
That could be one explanation. You know, we've already shifted dimensions.
We've already moved into the next one.
Or we've opened up a doorway or multiple portals.
Maybe Biden accidentally walked through that.
He couldn't get up the stairs, though. I don't think he'd even...
If it ever was open, he wouldn't actually be able to make it up or down the stairs.
Because it's underground, isn't it? So he'd probably have trouble getting down there.

(01:18:38):
Yeah, maybe he came out of there. Yeah, he'd come in and Harris came out instead.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, because they said, you know... The documentary on
Skimwalker Ranch that I watched was a location in Utah that's got a lot of paranormal activity.
There are reports of portals opening up and things walking in and creatures
walking out of them. I'm like, that sounds about right. I believe that. Yeah.

(01:19:00):
Something entered. That's right. God, that's going to be interesting how that's
going to develop into something.
Like maybe a whole new world is entering us and we're just like,
wow, that's going to be. Yeah, that's going to be.
This is why we've got some time ahead of us. We've got some goals.
And time is going so quickly now.

(01:19:20):
I feel like it is speeding up and who knows what's going to happen in the next
minute or two or tomorrow or whatever. Well, it's happened already. We don't know about it.
By the time we finish this, it's going to be...
Something new.
Alright, well, I don't think we can really give any advice. You know?

(01:19:42):
Believe what you see. Any tips?
Yeah, read the newspaper and believe everything that you read.
That's good money. Believe what you see and you'll be fine.
And eating lots of fast food, yep. That's right.

(01:20:04):
Yeah, that's our advice for the week. Believe what you see. And come back and
see how you feel next week.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. Until next time. Yeah. Have fun. Yes.
Cheers. Yeah. Yeah. Cheers.
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