Game Dads - 19 - Beef, Braids, and Button Mashing - GameDads

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We are recording. Okay, 3, 2, 1, go! Yes! 3, 2, 1, let's jam!
Okay. Yeah. Okay. Welcome to the Game Dads podcast.
We are... Let me introduce myself before I just jump into a topic.
My name is Aaron, and I am here with my hetero life mate.

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Allow myself to introduce myself.
My name is Richie Cunningham. this is my wife oprah actually i'm brad all the
way yeah yeah you know this guy so.
We hi hi how's it
going it's going well i i

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have had an insane
two weeks i feel like i say that every time
i'm on here but like it's been it's been
wild yeah it's got so let
me start by saying the reason that i ended
up being late is because i had to go get my
hair redone so i like planned everything out i was

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like i'm gonna plan this out so that everything lines up perfectly i'm gonna
get to the braiding place at one get my hair braided go directly from there
to the the place to get my haircut get my haircut done go back home grab andrea's
mother's day gift and then
back in the house freaking 3 30

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be ready for a podcast and we'll do some podcasting like
i planned it all out and like i got
there on time and i was like yeah and then the lady who was braiding my hair
just her vibes alone i could be i was like oh this is a new girl this is for
sure a new girl you don't have the same person no no like because of the the because of like,

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we're in the new age, I did literally schedule my, my braiding sessions on a
website and I can choose the braider that I want.
But if you choose the braider, then you have to like, you know,
be inside of their schedule.
But if you just pick any, then you pretty much got an open schedule to get it done whenever you want.
So like, I was like, I need this specific time to make all this work.

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So like, and they gave me the new girl,
all like the place that i go to get my grades done
is like like a hundred percent
like late like everybody there is
from africa like speaks like i'll like i don't i won't even try and guess what

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language they are speaking but like it is a definitely an african language like
they like there are a couple girls there that speak english but there are clearly
other girls there who do not speak English.
The girl who's doing who's doing my braids like barely speaks
english and so like another girl
has to come in and like translate to her

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what she's saying so i have a new girl who doesn't speak english braiding my
hair oh geez so i what i specifically ordered the website has like specifics
like this is what you want to do this is how long it takes this is what you
want to do dude, this is how long it takes.
So I was getting six cornrows.

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Six cornrows is 30 minutes.
I was like, perfect. I can go.
I, you know, I got some wiggle room in case, you know, something takes a little longer or whatever.
And then I get my haircut. So I set my appointment at one thinking.
30 minute appointment, setting that at one and then saying my haircut at two,

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i'm gonna be waiting before i get my haircut done
so when i just sit
down she starts braiding my hair and like i
instantly know something's up she's like she's on
her like third or fourth braid and she's nowhere near
the top of my head and i'm like this is
supposed to be six braids how are you gonna get six braids in

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my hair when you aren't even close to the top of
my head yet so i'm sitting and then i'd
be counting as she's braiding and i'm like six seven eight
nine ten i'm like oh god
how many braids is this gonna be 11 12 13 14
and i'm like and i can't she doesn't speak english so i can't like hey this

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is supposed to be six she's not she's not understanding the word i'm saying
so like i get done she gets done i have 15 braids in my head but it's supposed to be six.
15 15 i didn't even think i had enough hair for her to get 15 but she 15 braids in my head,
cornrows in my head 15 and instead

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of taking 30 minutes it is now taking an hour and 15 minutes is she just well
you said she's new is she is she young is she older like she's in that magical
black lady phase where like she's somewhere between 25 and 65 and I couldn't tell you like.

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What's the old saying black don't cry exactly like she was I could tell that
she was beyond teenager but like.
Between that and being like and she's not
an old lady but i can't tell you in between that
what she was oh my gosh so like
like i'm getting my hair done and like i think she can start to feel that like

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i'm like you're taking too long i need to get out of here so like she she gets
done and i'm like i hop up and i'm like how much do i owe you let me get you.
Know let's go to the counter let's pay but like she can't
even run the counter because she doesn't speak english or
read english so she can't run the register to like ring
me up so like another girl has to stop doing her

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braid that she's working on to come to the register to
ring me up so like so can can they translate for
her then yeah like so like they're translating back and
forth but like apparently she forgot like to
like spray and oil my hair after we were done
so like the girl at the register sees me and she's like
hey get over here and like they're talking and

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like they're completely talking in this and they're a different language like
like like i have no idea what they're saying back
and forth but then like she's like comes back
with a spray bottle and she's like like trying to tell
me to duck down so she can spray the top of my head so like
i'm like stooped in like a little like crouch position
while she's trying to so she's spraying the stuff on the top of
my head the other girl's got the card reader like pointing it

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at me and i'm like oh man this is
this is this is already not going well so oh my gosh hop in the car after this
and i go to go get go to the barber to get like my edges and all my lines done
and i get there and he is working on another dude so i automatically i'm 15 minutes late i assume.

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He he his next customer was there and he was just like
i don't i don't see this guy so let's just get started so
turns out he was running 20 minutes
late so i got there and i
wasn't late that was the customer before me so
yeah that could set everything back yeah
so then i get in you know

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his chair finally i start getting my hair done and i get all of
it done like i look from the last time
you saw on me i genuinely look completely different like i
look like a completely like everything is
different it's weird and it's crazy i kind of love it but
like then he gets done and then i forgot that he doesn't take cards he only

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takes cash so then i have to like hop out drive to an atm get cash for him drive
back drop it off then drive home so then i'm driving home and like As I'm driving home,
I realize the Mother's Day present that I picked out for Andrea,
this is the only time I'm going to be able to have a chance to go get it.
So I have to go to the place, because Andrea can hear me, to get the thing,

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because Andrea can hear me.
And then as I'm sitting in line, waiting at the place to get the thing,
I realize there is absolutely no way I'm going to make it home by 3.30.
It's just not possible at this point.
So I sent you that text, and I was like...
I'll, I'll be home at four. So I get everything and then I run home.
So like I have delicious food in front of me, but I haven't got a chance to

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eat it yet because I need to get on this podcast.
If it makes you feel any better. I am also very hungry. I don't have food sitting
in front of me though, but I, I can, I can, I can.
All right. Oh yeah, dude.
Not there's stuff going on but i

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don't know man probably not like the greatest place
in the world to talk about stuff yeah life's good yeah i know what's going on
in your in your neck of the woods and i i empathize and hope everything goes
well but definitely we can just talk about something else that's it oh man um
my dad had surgery this week so we've been kind of you know helping him

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out that's tough because you know my dad's kind
of stubborn so i mean
go figure i am too the real question is
would your braid lady
be willing to braid the first level
of ms pac-man into my head i i
would bet if any like if

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you if you were trying to get it done anywhere i bet the ladies there
could do it i bet they could would they
laugh at me i can't reply
to that i don't know for sure if they would laugh
but i bet they'd do it i bet if you went in there if your
hair was long enough and you went in there and was like i want the first level
of pac-man braided into my hair they'd be like two hundred dollars and they'd

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just get started miss pac-man excuse me baby defense all right i have a question
for you please icebreaker question please go Go right ahead.
Real simple. Real simple.
Do you think Jesus used a level when he was a carpenter or did he just know?
That's a pretty good question. I feel like he probably could have not used the

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level, but he was on that Superman kick where he wanted to appear as a human being.
So he did it out of just out of respect for all the other carpenters around
him. I just want to make it look normal I gotcha I gotcha,
I was out of town right now and I really stoned and that popped into my head.

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It's all good. Yeah. I, I like I, when I put on the list that I wanted to do
the Toriyama thing and the, this Kendrick and Drake beef, but I feel like the
Toriyama thing needs more time,
but I'm absolutely stoked to talk about this fucking Kendrick and Drake beef.
I am so excited to talk about it.

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So, you know, I told you, i was gonna do my homework did you
google who kendrick lamar and drake are i i
know i know who they both are i'm no
simpleton sir but i purposely
did not google the beef because i thought it'd be more funny if i could just
react to it naturally okay i will absolutely i want to do what's playing first

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but then i will absolutely give you the debrief on this beef oh so you what I'm playing.
Okay, right on. We'll save my two little segments for later because I do have a couple...
A couple things that I want to introduce into Breath's Father.
Oh, yeah. And New Slugnet.
I finally got the Platinum Trophy and Persona 5 Royal.

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I am no longer playing it. I don't even want to look at it.
I am so sick and tired of anime babes in every aspect of my life.
I spent 140 hours with those characters.
I think it was it ended up being like 141 something
blah blah change never again

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no sir that game was too long that
game was like 80 hours too long but i
loved it uh it was so good i thought
the regular ending with sheena was great i love
a catchy end god it
that it well i love so good i love
persona 5 it was just i honestly like like

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no like for it's a weird statement especially
because how much i enjoyed both i honestly think
the original ending without the dlc is.
Actually better than the dlc ending yeah i
agree with you i agree with you but the good thing about the dlc
stuff the royal content if you will i love
a catchy kind of redemption function yeah you

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want to call it that i think i text you that they were
basically just goku vegeta yeah that's kind of like that's
it's boiling it down to just a real base level
and stuff but i catch he's got real vegeta vibes
yeah and i you know so
the the protagonist i don't i mean definitely not
the goku type or anything because he's not a simpleton and you

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can make him into one i guess with some
of the dialogues but yeah but
like base level like he's kind of just whatever he's your avatar but i catch
you like that dude's full on vegeta and it's awesome i i love his i love this.
Whole thing my i didn't max out all the confidence so i the the long goodbye

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actually ended up being just like hey it's kind of a short goodbye,
but I picked on as my, as my dear lady, my, my special lady.
I felt like I made the best choice and I will not hear otherwise.
I didn't realize you could also romance Futaba and you know, she's cool.

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She's cool. But I have a feeling that as soon as that trophy pops.
It just immediately dials 911.
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Exactly. Exactly.
So again, she's, she's really cool. I love her as a character.
Her introduction and complete
180 by the end of the game i thought that was incredibly charming especially

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when soju yeah who is the best dad he's up there he's up there with piccolo
although he doesn't leave children in the wilderness for six months i i actually like like i was not.
This is an admission of my own naivete but like
i was not prepared for sojiro when

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i first started the game and i was like this dude can
suck my he's equipped messing with
me and then like over the course of the game after like
you know you he starts to warm to you and
like you you meet futaba and you get to learn more about
his backstory and why he's like that i was like this is the
guy right here like yeah like put him

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right there with the freaking ryuji i would die
for this man like yeah well i
ryuji's great too i was pretty close to max
and i hear his confidant i think the only one i
didn't actively enjoy was yusuke um yusuke
i could yusuke may as well call him useless no i didn't i didn't really like

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yusuke but it was it was a great game like i said it was incredibly long it
was way too long you know i i felt the same thing about 557 reber.
I i think those themes are especially at
least with final fantasy like a lot
of stuff is optional content with persona

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you have to you have
to live out those days you can go to bed immediately
if you want to i mean but at the
very at the very least you have to start eating every one
of those days and i don't remember i played
i played in beat ps2 version of
persona 3 and non-golden persona

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4 and i got about halfway through golden none
of those are near anywhere near as long as p5 royal
so but when i finished up with that i've only got like one actual other game
i'm playing right now even though i just bought a whole bunch of them i needed
something that was just short and sweet and so i beat double may cry in one

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sitting all right dude like that game still holds up,
you know the grand the granddaddy of the of the modern day character acting game.
It still holds up. There's a couple things that are a little bit outdated.
It's 20 plus years old. Devil May Cry 5 I think is the best Devil May Cry game.

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But for what Devil May Cry, the original one was, I wanted a PS2 for that game.
That was my killer app for that console. I bought a bunch of other games when it came out too.
GTA 3 and Final Fantasy 10 but don't make cry was the game especially after
playing resident evil 2 and you know the director of that game went on to make

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that with my cry and just you know and then eventually bayonetta,
i'll follow kamiya you know to the ends of the earth dude okami like that dude
just for as much of a prick as that guy is like he has shaped my video game
pace and preferences in ways that like,

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i wouldn't even say miyamoto did you know or ivy anima you know from from village
of zelda or why am i blank on a mega man.
That's going to bother me in a foodie in a foodie. I was like,
it's, I know it's foodie something.

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Yeah. I kind of cage you in a foodie, but yeah, I mean, even like something
like that, you're just the, the, the fine folks at Capcom back that they do.
It's just that, that style of combat.
It just, it's one of those things that like takes you from like,
i'm pressing buttons to like i am like in a dynamic fight and it just it feels

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so good every time well and that's how i feel about street fighter you know
everything in street fighter is,
and you can button mash but button mashing is more for like mortal kombat type
stuff blue fighter is a elegant especially if you get two people that know what
they're doing it's an elegant back and forth dance kind of you know it's it's a it's an actual,

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it's a fight yeah and i i think
devil may cry again for all of its
you know the works that it has you know from the last 20 plus years and stuff
but you know it took that technicality of a street fighter and morphed it into
a single player not story based because i mean the story that game is hilarious

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but but a action adventure.
Game yeah it's a fighting game and they're like this is off topic a little bit but like,
as more and more games come out that like kind of turn the turn like the fighting
game genre and it kind of has gotten more I don't even know if prestige might

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be the right word for it because like fighting games have never not been popular but like It wasn't...
Wasn't like like the when tekken 8 came out
like people were like people were freaking
out like it was all over everything everything
everybody was talking about was tekken 8 for a while like yeah
and fighting games like have never really had that kind of

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grandeur and i feel like as they get that
the thing that i've noticed is like even as
game get as fighting game get more grandeur street fighter has
this like this like purity to
it like that fight where that kin versus chung lee
in the finals fight where he parries all of
chung lee's final combo and then kills her at one

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bar of health that that fight happened years
ago and you can still like find references to
it in clips of it and people wearing t-shirts of
kin blocking freaking chung lee's feet like like street
fighter has this just like it's down it's got
it's it's got its system down to such a science that like it's like so like

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elegant and like beautiful when two players at a high level are playing it no
matter what's going on and then you got me over here it's just the master of the low kick you know.
Your sheds don't stand a chance not one
but yeah with something like devil may cry though like that
it takes the anxiety out of it for me you know fighting

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somebody else and you know when we were growing up like i
had no problem you know fighting you guys i'm just
never like the best period but with that when
they cry you know it gives you a chance to really i don't know
especially for somebody that gets nervous about playing with
other people like that like me i can sit there and learn that character without

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or that that particular enemy or boss or whatever without somebody like staring
at me and or i know getting hazed online or whatever but yeah i get you,
so i don't like when people yell at me,
well then it's it's really good that you don't really like multiplayer online games because,

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yeah there was a time there was a time dude i i had a i had a very strong overwatch phase and,
nothing i was thinking about i didn't even like that stuff like it because it
kind of got more like like you're playing for skins or whatever like they are
that or whatever you're about to unlock i mean i don't want to sound like that

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guy like the old guy or whatever but But I like this, like the gear stuff,
the Halo stuff where you're playing more just because it's a fun game,
not necessarily about what you're getting ready to unlock.
Yeah, I was one of those people like I literally like Overwatch gives you this,
you know, gives you the option where you can just buy skins or,

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you know, buy coins to roll for more skins or roll for coins to roll for.
However, they do it now. But like it was never a thing for me.
Like I never bought a single coin or anything like that.
I just literally would just play for the fun of it. And then like,
just because I played so much, which was an insane amount, I played so much

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that I would have money for anything that I wanted to buy.
And I would buy it for the characters that I cared about. And the other characters don't have Jack.
And I was just like, this is, this is just,
it was just, i was just into it because i was just enjoying playing the game
and that's why it like was a double blow when you know all of the blizzard stuff

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went down and then on top of that they.
Deleted overwatch one and then created overwatch two on top of it and i was like,
as much time as i put into overwatch to get
all of this stuff and you guys just deleted the game for no reason can't you
just leave it up so that people who want to play overwatch one can play it like
nope we just deleted in the entirety of overwatch so like during the last like

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week that overwatch was around i like re-downloaded it and i just like played a little while just to,
enjoy the time i had left with it and then when they created overwatch 2 i was
just like okay i'm done this is a completely different game the thousand plus
hours i spent in this game are all deleted all the characters are you know i

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don't get skins or anything for all the trouble and all the time I played the
original is just like gone.
I was like, okay, I'm done. Yeah, that's really frustrating.
Again, like I think that.
Those ever-changing multiplayer games i think
those are the ones that stress me out the most is you know i could take time
off or whatever and you know play something else you know me i like to

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play a lot of different things and i'm not i'm usually
not on the same thing for too long and if
i take any amount of time off in those multiplayer games i feel
like you know i'm missing out on either you
know people are you know have time to get better than me or or whatever
and you know especially when
they start tweaking things like in the overwatch days

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or you know something like team fortress or
or whatever it's not necessarily it's not
the same balance that i know whereas something like halo or
gears i know that as long as i
know the map and the weapons that
i that i like or whatever i i can stay on the
chance they may take me a couple matches to to get my legs back but

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at the very least i'm not fighting you know
an obsessive online community or anything like that it makes
sense yeah no i get what you're saying even when i was when
i was super into overwatch back in the day they were there were
like the overwatch that i played because like i'm not sure if i started overwatch
like at the very beginning when it first dropped or if it was a little later

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but like the overwatch that would was the game when i started playing it is
so different from the overwatch that was like by the time the the game ended like like.
Some of the weirdest things that i think about in that game were
like when just this is just a random
example when you when i started playing overwatch diva was
like the second most used character in the

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entire game because like she had this really awesome kit
and like there were a lot of characters that could counter her
and then like as they slowly started introducing
more characters she literally became like the worst character
in the game because like if you're playing diva someone
can just play you know freaking someone just
play doom fist and just punch you out of

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your mech off the map every time you try to do anything because the game makes
you like whenever you're whenever diva is like using her ability she almost
has to fully stop which is like oh hey that's you know but all i have to do
is just line of sight and then i can just blast you and if i I hit you hard
enough to destroy your mech,
then guess what? That's game over for you. You're just dead.

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She became one of the worst characters in the game, and at the beginning of
the game, she was one of the best.
Yeah. You know, those class mistakes, man.
That's the kind of stuff that gets me. But we know how we got on that subject.
Yeah, that was random. It just...
Oh the fighting game stuff but yeah a tangent of a tangent well that's what

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i'm playing all right things i got a whole bunch of new games dude i'm looking
forward to getting into them.
I i've been playing like honestly i've
played a little bit of final fantasy since the last
time we played we talked but i've just been so busy i haven't
really gotten a chance to sit down and to play it have you
beat it yet no where are you

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i'm just curious i i did the i've done like the first quest when you go back
to the golden saucer i haven't done the second part of it yet okay so i'm not
super worried about spoilers and stuff at this point the game's been out for like,
you know over 90 days you had your chance so

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but i'm not gonna like i mean not to
spoil the end of the game but like where you're at all that stuff does that
make sense yeah i get what you're saying i just i
haven't like basically what happened to me was i got side quest fever and like
i know that i'm coming up on the like the last parts of the game and like all
these other side quests popped up and i just like i can't stop myself i just

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like oh someone wants to battle me in cards.
I'm like, oh, let's go do that. And I've just been cleaning up all the rest of those side quests.
And then the fact that there's an entire ocean bar in the map and it's completely
empty is really bothering me.
Oh, yeah. I don't know. I don't know if I'm even going to get into it or if

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I'm going to just finish the game and then go into my new game plus and start doing it.
Because I think I need to beat it because like you've been saying,
everyone's kind of getting a little bit more loose with how the game ends and
videos online are popping up like, oh, let me explain Final Fantasy Rebirth's ending.
And I'm like, I need to get this game done before I get spoiled.

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I need to finish it. But I just between trying to find the time to do it and, you know. Oh, yeah.
And then. And to be fair, though, I wouldn't I wouldn't spoil the end of the game.
If that makes sense for anybody i don't i don't care what the statute of limitations
is yeah but like the stuff that's
like in the game itself like yeah that's that's fair game at this point.

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So that i play i've played a
been playing a little bit of dragon ball z fighters just because
you know i got love for that game and some reason sometimes
i can't put it down i'm playing a mobile
game for the first time in like three years
with that that game
developer game i mean other than that one but it's

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not really a mobile game it's just a game that i downloaded
on mobile yeah but this is
solo leveling arise and here's
the thing it has the mobile
action game gameplay loop and i
don't i wanted something anything different than

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that so i don't know how much longer i'm going to be playing it it's it's
fun it's it's in a great world the solo
leveling world is awesome it's literally built to be like a video game so like
it everything in the game feels right but it's like just it's just like run

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around three monsters appear you fight them you kill them you You run around,
three monsters appear, you fight them, you kill them, you run around,
three monsters appear, you fight them, you kill them, you run around,
and then the boss monster appears who looks exactly like the other monster,
but he has a red square on his head and more HP. You fight that guy, you kill him, cutscene.

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Like, I, I just described Final Fantasy four.
It's just like, I, I wanted something more out of it.
I don't know what i was expecting to find but i
wanted something more like maybe more
like like an mmo type of feel where you like group up with people and do quests

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and stuff but it just i'm gonna keep trying i'm gonna give it a little bit more
time because i love i like soul leveling that much that i'm just gonna give
it some more time to see if anything you know changes or
progresses or, but it's starting to feel like, Oh,
you've got five pulls.
You better draw the super rare.

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Disgust. Is it pixel graphics or like 3d graphics?
It's 3d graphics. It's, I mean, I mean, it looks beautiful. Like, like it.
It's I think it's literally they really they're releasing a PC version of it later this year.
And like the graphics on my phone look like it wouldn't be a miss on PC. Like it looks great.

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Like I said, the world's awesome, but it's just I hate this gameplay loop and
already see what's coming.
It's like, oh, well, you could either pay us $50 or you can wait a day to mine
for more resources. Versus, oh, you don't have enough keys to go into the dungeon to fight.
Like, I don't, I mean. Oh, dude, no.

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That's a hard pass from old Bradley. Okay.
So then I had the epiphany moment. A moment in my soul that clicked.
And I was like, I spent so much time.
Because before I upgraded my PC recently.

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Before, I had this hard drive that only had a little bit of space on it,
so I'd never really had a bunch of games installed on my computer at the same
time because I didn't want to use up all the extra space.
But I have a new hard drive, which has more space than I could possibly use.
Well, that's not true. When I was doing freaking live streaming and YouTube,

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you can devour hard drive space when you do YouTube saving videos and stuff.
Of but i was like i'm gonna download games i'm
gonna go through my libraries and see
what games in there that i really want to play that i
haven't gotten a chance to sit down and play i have tons of
games i haven't played yet and like i went through and downloaded like it's

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all like 25 games on my computer like this is a game that i that i was so excited
for that like it was like it's like an indie game i pre-ordered it i was so
excited for it to come out and i still haven't Played it.
Is that terra nil it's like
it's like sim city in reverse so like

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sim city and obviously you're building a
city but like terra nil is like the city
you're like has basically been destroyed
you're in like a desolate wasteland but like
your job is to clear up all of the
crazy trash and waste and
take this like barren wasteland

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and then like turn it into a forest like the point
of each level is to like turn that area into like a forest and then afterwards
your job is to take all of the stuff that you use to make all of it and like
get it off the planet so like wally yeah Yeah, so, like, yeah, it's basically WALL-E.

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Like, you plant trees, and you, like, you know, dig up, like,
old, like, buildings and concrete, and then, like, you ship them back.
And then, like, you have, like, a little spaceship that you,
like, send it back to, like, the terraforming satellite.
So, like, I was like, SimCity in reverse, that sounds awesome.

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So, like, I bought it. I, like, I paid for it.
I paid for like the when it was on this
little kickstarter i paid the kickstarter price to get
like ground floor get my name in it like i
did the the fucking like got like the fucking deluxe edition and got everything
and it's on my computer and i have not played it i was like i'm installing terra

(35:23):
nil right now and i'm gonna play it next time i get a chance to play games and
like at That Guardians of the Galaxy game, that I installed on my computer.
I got freaking... Game's so good.
I haven't touched it. I've owned it since we started this podcast,
I think. And I have not played it.
I don't give them that often, but that one gets to be a seal of approval.

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Yeah. And I know it's awesome. We've had a conversation on the podcast about
how awesome that game is.
And in that conversation, I told you that I owned it now, and I still have not played it.
I'm like i'm gonna sit my
ass down and play some of these games like i'm not buying
another new game except for like i think
it's called like eukaryan chronicles it's like

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the game that's like the spiritual successor to sakodan uh yeah i know the name
of that game is it not iudan chronicles yeah yeah yeah okay yeah and then like
how'd you pronounce it you carry it No, no, no, no, no.

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The other one sukhodin i've never known how to pronounce that and on a podcast
years ago dude the guy that like lived in japan he's to listen to podcasts beyond
quite a bit he called it suikoden,
it's it i think okay here's what
i think and i don't know what's right i think
suikoden suikoden is the

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japanese pronouncing it in the
japanese way it's the naruto in comparison
to naruto but like right as an
american just reading the title it's sukoden but like in japanese where you
have to pronounce every syllable of every letter and every vowel has to be a
long bow it's suikoden like it's just it's the naruto versus naruto thing yeah interesting anyway.

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So i just i i'm
gonna straight up just like like okay first of all i
i i'm sure you of all people know that
a spiritual successor to sakodan is up my alley and i would totally buy it you
know that yeah me too it's on my list okay so don't like for all of you judgies

(37:42):
don't judge me for this but like the internet had a little meltdown about it
and that made me want to buy it more.
I have to buy it just to like say, screw you guys.
Because like, apparently I don't know if it was hidden during development,
but one of the main characters of that game is a black girl and people lost

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their fucking minds about it. Like.
Oh yeah people lost their minds about it
oh well you know the woke got into involved in the production of this game because
one of these things is not like the other look at these two characters and then
there's a black girl so obviously the woke guys got involved and made them add

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a black main character it's like silly coded has always had black characters what the
you talking about like so i
was like dude i'm like i know i should not
be basing my gaming decisions off of dumb people on twitter but that one i was
just like okay i'm absolutely buying this game 100 yeah i've only done that

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once and it was with the harry potter game i bought that specific.
I don't like Harry Potter. I know Dickie Rowling and all that stuff. Whatever.
I don't agree with her. You know what I mean? But the people that are like,
I don't know, calling for the game to be cancelled and all this other stuff.

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People in their little brigades. Especially over something as silly as that. You can definitely...
I don't even know like what to say other than
like god dang i'm just glad i'm not on twitter anymore
i can say what i'm saying like like
here's my thoughts on it like jk rowling's

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and her opinions are wrong period but like but like sorry there is an entire
generation of people who grew up with harry potter before jk rowling started
running her mouth and you can't erase their entire harry potter love
history just because the writer is now a douchebag.

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Well, I don't believe in the...
They're now a douchebag. I mean, those were...
In my experience, when people say stuff like that, those are things that are deep-rooted.
Yeah, I don't mean that she, like, oh my god, tripped and hit her head and became a douchebag.

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I mean, the people who... I didn't want to seem like I was challenging you either. No, no problem.
I'm just like, the people who grew up on Harry Potter didn't know this about her.
And they would have had different opinions at the time.
But like it doesn't erase the 20 years
that they spent loving harry potter yeah like

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yeah it doesn't like you can't just like it's
okay well jk rowling said something bad so now everything
that you've ever thought about harry potter goes out the window and now you
know all the love and time that you put in all the friends that you met and
all of the experiences that you had because of harry potter all that goes away
because she said something that people don't like like i I completely agree

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that the thing that she, the stuff that she says is bad.
Like she's almost in Nazi territory at this point, but like that doesn't change
that all those people's history with Harry Potter.
And you can't expect them to just be like, well, I just threw all of this in the trash.
Like I, sorry, but like the game was going to come out.

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Like just, you know, people can separate,
you know, the people don't have to contribute to her now, But like people,
you have to separate the art from the artist a little bit here because there
are people who have spent their entire lives thinking, you know, loving Harry Potter.
Like, like, like I love anime, like you love video games. So you can't like,

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oh, she said something bad.
So like, you know, all of those actors who were involved in Harry Potter,
the studio that created all the movies, you know, every person along all those
people just erased them from your brains because JK Rowling said something bad.
Well, see, and that's a great point, too. You know, a lot of the cast of that,

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and I guess I didn't really mean for it to get this deep and stuff,
but it's probably good for people to know where we stand on things, too, I guess.
But not that it really matters on a video game podcast, I don't think,
but the whole good human being thing, I'd like to think I'm a good human being. Anyway, to my point.
Actors of that movie went and they stood with the trans community and that speaks volumes.

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They're still going to cash checks from Warner Brothers and the rallying of
state and all that stuff.
They're absolutely going to
go cash those checks, but they can absolutely disagree with her as well.
They're separating the i
guess the the person from

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the from the job if that makes sense yeah like like most
of those most of those like the you know the main
cast specifically they they spent their entire childhoods with
harry potter like it was their entire lives
from you know 10 or 10 or
11 to 25 like you can't they
can't just like oh well she said something bad so i guess

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all of my life is just gonna disappear and i
can't be proud or happy about any of it like that's just
not how it works well and they use their their
platforms their respective platforms that were built on
the the backs of people like jk rowling to publicly
publicly disagree with her so i mean they're using their platform
for what they feel is right and i you know

(43:37):
i agree with them i feel like they're right as well but you
know it's they're able to they're able to separate that stuff all right to make
sense right we can we could we this could be a whole fucking podcast yeah yeah
so in in the vein in the perfect perfect segue in the vein of childhood actors,

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let's talk about drake and kendrick because we're running out of time.
So drake and kendrick first
of all just as to start
out here i want to talk about these two guys individually before we
start talking about this beef so drake is the

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highest selling artist of the
2010s like in the
20 in the 2000s the highest selling artist was eminem in the 2010s it's drake
and drake's highest selling artist is more than m&ms so drake is is officially

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in the record books as one of the highest selling artists of all time,
so this is one side of the beef
drake started his okay his
i can't remember if it's his dad or it's his grandpa i think it might be his
grandpa but it could be his dad i think it's his grandpa though his grandpa

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no i'm sure it's his grandpa so you know that song goodness gracious great balls
of fire yeah that's drake's grandpa.
So, yes. So he has musical prestige in his family. That's Drake's grandpa.
So. Did you just use musical prestige? Yeah. Yeah.

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Grandpa's a fire. It's Jerry Lee Lewis, by the way. I was going to say, come on.
Do you know a single person who is under the age of 25 or above the age of 25
who doesn't know that song?
That's musical prestige. Illusion.
Illusion. Okay. so drake starts
his career as an actor he was

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in a show called degrassi degrassi yeah
that's right yeah so he starts
in degrassi then after leaving degrassi
he starts his music career he meets little wayne he lets
little wayne hear some of his music little wayne is absolutely
floored by him signs him on the spot he releases

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a mixtape then his first album goes
platinum and he basically has been
you know nothing but star quality up from that point like every drake album
is platinum every drake album is number one on the charts and almost every song
he has the like the most number one hit songs number one hit songs on like the

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top 100 of all time like he's like Like, album-wise,
he's one album away from Michael Jackson and taking that record.
Like, as much as it's like, dude's from Canada, he's actually like a musical powerhouse.
So then we go to the other side and we go to kendrick now kendrick was discovered by dr dray.

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Basically put out his first three albums each
of them so each of them are platinum they sold less
than drake's albums but they're all platinum but drake kendrick
has the unique only musician in
the entire world who has ever won a
pulitzer for a studio album oh

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so kindred can
write this album damn it is just damn
kindred lamar okay so the
the thing is the thing that separates these these
two is drake can drake

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can make songs he is a hit maker i mean his legacy is nothing but proof that
he is a hit maker like i said the number is insane it's like number songs that
he has had that are like number one on the chart is like 140 or something like that like stupid
it's ridiculous and then kendrick is the the writer he is like i said he his

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writing on damn is so good that he won a writer award like the pulitzer is a
writer award like freaking.
Mark twain has a pulitzer and kendrick lamar like so in like very specific but
very like like, real ways, both of these guys are, like, at the top of the music game,

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so the beef starts because Kendrick, or Drake, and J.
Cole, who's just another rapper, but he's equally talented, but he doesn't have
the prestige of either of these two guys, like,
J. Cole is probably the third or fourth best rapper who's still alive and making music right now.

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So Drake and J. Cole get on a record together. And it's called First Person Shooter.
And they basically say that who's
the best rapper in the game right now is between Drake, Kendrick, and J.
Cole. but in the song both of
them make the you know in their separate verses basically say

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there's a big three between the three of us
but i'm number one apparently kendrick did
not take that well so he releases a song where
he basically not basically literally says fuck the
big three it's just big me and then
he takes individual shots at j cole and drake
so this is the start of

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the beef j cole immediately comes back
and he drops a song where he basically says hey kendrick
your that damn album is nothing
but respected but everything else you made is crap you should
shut up you should shut up get out of my face then from
the from what's been said another rapper whose

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name is schoolboy q goes up to j cole and
goes dude you do not want the
drama that's about to happen delete that
delete that record and apologize to kindred and
whatever he said to him got
him so shook that i'm like i'm gonna
start with these are rappers literally at the top of the rap game like all of

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these dudes are like top of the rap game j cole was like you are right i am
going to get on stage i am publicly going to apologize to kindred from making
this song and I'm going to delete it.
That's never happened i cannot think of
a time where anybody has deleted a

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disc against someone at the behest of like someone else and said like i am deleting
this i'm sorry i took this too far i still am a big fan of yours i don't want
to get into this beef yeah so that happened.
The internet was absolutely shook they were like kendrick j cole's

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a bitch i can't believe he deleted his dis what a
loser blah blah blah so that happens
then drake is like
nah i'm going i'm gonna go in and he he makes
the song he releases his first diss track back to kendrick called push-ups
and they sidebar real quick yeah my
bar so the internet was trying

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to fan the flames and make them this dude
like respectfully dipped out and said i i'm okay
like this is gonna get taken too far oh
god and yes it does the adult thing yeah now
all right i understand if we were kids you know that
would be considered a bitch move you follow through right
right you know here i am now as an almost

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39 year old man adult we'll say
we'll say adult individual and i
can see him like that that seems like the adult thing
to do is just you know hey apologize i'm sorry and then you know that's it and
then all these motherfuckers these anonymous motherfuckers are like no you're
a bitch like you need to stand up and fight you know you won't do it that is

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you won't do it exactly that is exactly what happened that is exactly what happened he He apologized,
and the internet called him a bitch for three weeks straight.
So that happens. Then Drake releases a song called Push-Ups,
where he basically, like, it's a diss, but it's not like what we're about to talk about later.

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It's a diss, but it's not like what we're about to talk about later.
He calls Kendrick short. Kendrick is short. Says he has small feet.
Like, says that he's broke. broke says that you
know like he's never he's not gonna put out as many he's not
gonna make as much money as drake does this is just classic beef
stuff now i gotta look at i gotta pull this up real quick because the the the

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diss tracks get fast and deep after this one so i'm going to google this real
quick so i get these right because there's literally at this point there's a
wikipedia article about the Drake and Kendrick beef. I've seen it.
Okay. So then after Push Ups comes out, he also releases a...

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Because Kendrick did a song with Taylor Swift.
So he really... Drake releases a diss that's basically saying like...
You know you're he like he releases
this disc which got taken down because it got copyrighted
where he basically because kendrick is this big west
coast guy so like tupac and dre

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and snoop are his like big idols and
the people he like yeah so like he drake releases
a song where he uses ai version of tupac
and snoop's voices to basically talk shit
about kendrick and talk about how he's a bitch oh my
god so that's this happens and then kendrick is beyond pissed like he is absolutely

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beyond pissed so he drops the song called euphoria where he basically.
Euphoria is basically the i don't i would say it's the the lowest below the belt shot i have
ever seen in music euphoria is

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literally kendrick basically talking about
how drake is this horrible person and
how he's you know he's like a drug
addict and how he's a gambling addict and a sex addict and just like every below
the belt punch that you could possibly think of he's just kendrick's just going
off like he's losing his mind talking about like stuff how are you Did Allie mention pedophilia?

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Yeah, yeah. I mean, that comes up later, but the Euphoria one is just him just
basically saying that Drake's a piece of shit.
And then towards the end of the song, he basically tells Drake that according
to him and the culture which follows him...
Drake is no longer allowed to say the N word. He is no longer allowed to be in the USA.

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Like, like this is, it's nuts. And then the, but after this,
there's another one that's worse.
So, and then after that one, there's another one that's even worse. Like, so he drops this.
Then like the next day he drops another diss track.
That's called six 16 in LA. and it's just the same thing over again where he's

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just tell it talking mad trash about drake everything about him how he's a loser
he doesn't like how he dress he wants him to die he hates him like everything
like he's just he's losing his mind talking about drake in this disc,
jeez but in this one he says something about drake being a deadbeat dad and how he feels bad

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for his son because he drake isn't a
man who can teach him anything and just all
kinds of crap like below the belt shit so
then drake comes out with a song called
family matters where he's like all right well you're talking about my son well
let's talk about your kids so drake comes back and he says okay you're talking

(56:36):
about my son well and you're talking about how i'm not black enough And I'm
not allowed to use the N word. Well, your wife is mixed.
Do you talk like that to her? Your kids are mixed. Do you talk like that to them?
Like, then he's like, and you beat your wife and one of your kids, isn't your kid.

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It's this other guy's kid. I see him on Instagram, liking all of the photos
that your wife posts with that kid in it.
Like just super below the belt stuff that nobody that like.
I don't want to say because like the the
beefs of our time the nazas and jay-z's the big and tupac's were like i'll kill

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you i'll shoot you i'll drive by and shoot you like so like i can't say it's
worse than that stuff but like those guys didn't do what these two were doing yeah this is,
i'm gonna go and say petty and like below
the belt and then it's mean yeah after family matters i think kendrick wrote

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the most below the belt diss track that will ever exist i don't think anyone
would ever do what he does in this next track because it's crazy so the next track.
Kendrick writes a song but it's but kendrick
is like masterful with the pen he's like a lyricist

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god he writes a song but it's
not a song it's four four letters
that he's writing to everyone
in drake's family the song's called meet the grams the first
one he writes a letter to drake's son about how he's
his dad is useless and his dad is
this terrible example and he he won't

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you know he won't become a man because drake's not a man
to teach him how to be a man then he writes a
letter to his drake's dad where he basically says you raised a crappy son and
when i see people like your son i want them all to die and this is all your
fault and you should never have had kids oh god then he writes a letter to drake's
mom where he basically says the same thing Like your son,

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you raised a crappy son and he's terrible to women because you weren't a good
example of a woman to him and like all of this crap.
Then he, the last letter is to what?
Hendrick thinks and what people haven't
been able to prove is to his drake's

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daughter that he doesn't claim that everyone says
you know everyone says like exists with they don't no
one has proved that this girl exists but like
he wrote a letter to her about how her dad doesn't love her or he if he did
he would have claimed her and like just disgusting like this is this frigging
meet the grams is like the worst disc that I've ever heard until the next one

(59:37):
that Kendrick writes. Oh my gosh.
And all the, all of the songs that I'm talking about came out within the span
of like, like the, some of the disc tracks started, all of these came out within
the span of like a week and a half.
Like all the way from pushups all the way to the last disc.
This was one week of these two artists going back and forth to each other.

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So after meet the grams
kindred drops another song and it's
called not like us and not like
us is just basically him calling drake
a pedophile like he's just basically like you like
little girls like the the main the like
the main line from this song is him talking about how

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drake is trying to strike a chord and it's probably a
minor like he oh he is literally basically like this song is basically him saying
drake you're a pedophile everyone you know is a pedophile anyone who's famous
and knows you she needs to keep their kids away from you because you're a disgusting pedophile.

(01:00:45):
God so that then not like us drops so then drake releases the final song of
this disc and then it's called the heart part six and in the heart part six
drake basically is like i'm not a pedophile.
But the thing that people are like freaking out about is there was a period

(01:01:07):
in time where drake was hanging out with the girl from stranger things and people
were like this is weird why Why are you hanging out with the girl from stranger
things? Like she's too young.
Why are you hanging out with her? But like, he says like, she never says anything,
said anything happened between them. He never said anything happened between them. He denies it.
But like, he specifically says like, I, nothing happened between us.

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Like, I don't know why you're on this beef, but then to turn around and like
dig, like, it seems like Kendrick has been doing all the digging, but then in this song,
Drake basically said, that says i was listening to your album and
there's a part in it where you're definitely talking about getting molested as
a kid that's why you're so obsessed with this idea that i'm a pedophile because

(01:01:51):
you were molested oh my god and
you beat your wife and
half your kids aren't yours and you walk
around with this like superior attitude but you
were talking about how you like you're so good at raising your kids you haven't seen
your kids in six months you don't live with them like they're

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just it's it was like like it's exactly what Kendrick had been putting out back
at him but like that is that's the last song of the beef so far like that no
one has released the track this one came out on May 5th like I said like I was saying before and.
Where do you go from there i i don't i don't know

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how any any they could get any farther into the dirt with
this like so like the first the
first like set of diss tracks came out push-ups
came out april 13th and
then after and then
april 26th is when the
freestyle with with uh tupac and

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snoop came out and then kendrick drops euphoria on
april 30th and then 616 in
la on april 3rd on may 3rd and then drake drops family matters on may 3rd in
response to euphoria and then an hour after that kendrick drops meet the grams

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and then the next day kendrick drops not like us and the day after After that,
Drake drops The Heart Part 6.
So, like, almost all of these songs came out within a week of each other.
Yikes, dude. So, that is the entirety of the beef so far.
I don't know if more tracks are going to come out, but both of them have been

(01:03:41):
silent since The Heart Part 6 came out. Yeah, that's...
It's pretty mean. it's it once they
got once they got past push-ups it was everything that
happened out of that point was way beyond what you should
be doing in a rat beef like yeah like literally
in push-ups drake calls kendrick short he says you short you have small feet

(01:04:08):
yeah and euphoria basically kendrick is doing a therapy session if your therapist
hated you and just wanted to tell you about it Thank you.
This it's it's wild okay so i'm gonna
skip to talking about the internet's reaction
to all of this and where we're at right now

(01:04:28):
so after basically not like us came out it's the second to last song where he
basically calls drake a pedophile not like us was playing in the club people
were dancing to that like it's
number one song right now in the world and it has been for like a week.
Like the internet wholly decided that Kendrick won this.

(01:04:54):
Like he, like the internet, people were talking about how like Kendrick is the
greatest hater of all time.
And they need to step their haters up.
They're hating up because Kendrick has raised the bar on what a hater looks
like. Like the internet has decided that Kendrick won this.
I personally don't think that Kendrick won as handily as people said he did

(01:05:19):
because Kendrick kind of displays himself as like the proper rapper.
Like he displays himself as kind of like, I'm going to show you guys how to
be, how to like live and be a man and be, you know, and like raise your kids.
And, you know, can, you know, like, he's kind of like, he's kind of on that,

(01:05:42):
like, I'm the, I'm the example you should follow.
And I'm writing about it so you guys can, like, hear it and know where to go and how to be.
And then, you know, basically came out that he beat his wife.
He cheated on her. He, you know, doesn't see his kids. I was like.
I don't know if that makes you i don't know if even though

(01:06:05):
you were dissing dissing drake i don't know if him putting
all that stuff out in the light and you not denying it makes
you win this but like the internet is yeah the internet
has basically been like yeah kendrick won like like there are there are memes
of like kendrick with like as like kendrick as like goku and and And Drake is like Frieza.

(01:06:34):
And then can Drake throws his final blast at Kendrick and it says the heart part six.
And then Kendrick goes Kamehameha, not like us. And then Drake gets blasted
and, and then Kendrick turns away and turns off a super saying and flies off.
Like, like people are like very convinced that Drake won this or that Kendrick won this.

(01:06:55):
And I'm like, okay, well, yeah. I kind of think both of you are really bad people now.
So I don't know if either of you win in this.
Well, and that's kind of what I was getting ready to say. The whole thing sounded
like a race to the bottom. Yeah, 100%.
Whoever can sink the lowest comes out on top, if that makes sense.

(01:07:21):
I don't know what's better. the sort of you know I'm going to go back on that
because murder is never good a lot of those would end in,
murder someone getting shot up yeah this
is just kind of a it's a

(01:07:44):
very high profile twitter beef it's
just they're using more than 120 characters name calling
like middle school type stuff yeah yeah it's it was like it sounds dumb it's
it's pretty dumb honestly like the thing that the thing that i think is crazy

(01:08:07):
about this whole thing though is like.
Lee is here he wants some attention hi lee the thing about this is just like,
Like, the way that rap beefs used
to work is, like, you had to get in the studio. You had to make the song.

(01:08:28):
You had to, you know, put it on an album or, like, release it to the radio. It had to hit the radio.
Then people had to, like, listen to the radio to hear it. And then,
like, people would, like...
Spread over like weeks of people
of just like because of the timing because of the time it took
to like get it out there but now because of the internet you

(01:08:48):
can literally like kindred like drake
dropped one song and then kindred dropped another song six minutes later
like he raised the the one
thing that i really heard was the the six minute response
time and that is insane yeah that's
that's nuts like he like he dropped a
song and someone said hey kendrick drake dropped

(01:09:10):
that song you're gonna release yours and he was like yeah i've
been waiting for some something to pop off so here we go six minutes
later there's a freaking response to it like and
how long was the response like no all of these are all
of these all of these are full length like six
seven minute long songs all of them are so it's
almost like the the thing hit and like he's listening

(01:09:32):
to it as he's listening to it like he's reacting to
it but he's doing it into a live microphone yeah kind
of it's recorded and that is insane
it's it's crazy and like like like so like if you sit down and listen to like
all of these songs back to back it's basically an entire album they basically

(01:09:52):
wrote an entire album going back and forth each other in like maybe 20 days
i'm looking forward to them going out.
On tour together the the craziest part
one of the craziest things about this beef is that for
a long time j cole and kendrick were talking
about doing a freaking joint album yeah and then kendrick is just now afterwards

(01:10:16):
like it's this whole thing was wild it's just the way it went down was super
crazy it was it was so crazy that that like so like.
I follow artists mostly on Twitter artists and YouTubers and stuff like that.
Just is mostly the people that I follow on Twitter.

(01:10:39):
Like people that you have never heard say a rap lyric in your life.
We're commenting on this. Like, like,
Swift has comments on this beef like of course
she does like RuPaul has comments on this beef like it was it was crazy and

(01:11:00):
then I just my favorite part of this to wrap this story up so beautifully in
the tiniest little bow of Aaron circular thought I,
don't know if it was May 5th or May 6th it might have been May 6th.
May 6th Elon Musk drops one comment that says, everyone is talking about this beef.

(01:11:25):
And it has been silence from Drake and Kendrick since that time.
Not one word has been said. The whole thing has completely died off just because
Elon Musk opened his mouth one time.
Because Elon Musk is the worst and he is the ruiner of everything.

(01:11:46):
Everything he said he dropped one tweet
it's seven seven words and
it's over nobody's talking anymore he's the
hall monitor comes out in the hallway now now
guys exactly everybody's looking at the tension exactly
let me see your hall pass and it's over no
one's talking about it anymore the internet has completely moved on

(01:12:09):
literally he's got a big red switch
that he hit it literally two of the
biggest artists literally of all time are having a beef that is so explosive
that they were literally released an entire album dissing each other in two
weeks and elon musk says one word and it's over.

(01:12:36):
Stroke for you bud i hate this
guy right he owns the platform i guess
so he's kind of kind of
in time i don't know that i guess sorry oh my god it was this thing was absolutely
crazy and they're like what i'm telling
you about it isn't even isn't even actually all of it because drake

(01:13:03):
in that song push-ups he's not
just aiming at kendrick he's aiming at a bunch of other people too
and there are like like seven
or eight other songs by different artists that
he mentioned where they just like are talking
shit about drake and in all of those songs drake's
talking shit back to them it's just this

(01:13:25):
thing has gotten so wild i can't
there isn't even a like we'd have
to to have the entire episode just talking about this to
kind of explain everyone who gets brought up
in this thing that's that's funny dude
oh it's it's wild oh i
got a couple minutes left you want to hit these two new segments real quick

(01:13:49):
and yeah yeah yeah sorry i didn't mean to take it all up the drama you're good
dude like that was that was i'm gonna i'm actually gonna put on apple music
here a little bit and see if i can go down the whole like hotline and all that stuff.
You're in for a ride dude i'm looking
forward to i specifically didn't listen to anything because i wanted
to hear like i wanted to hear your version of it before i actually started doing

(01:14:15):
homework and stuff so so i got a couple different new but brett's bothered we're
gonna get into that a little bit um this real quick microsoft yeah fuck them
i know about what you're talking about.
Can we just take a minute here and just say fuck Microsoft? Like.

(01:14:35):
Man i haven't been a big fan of the whole like consolidation thing
it the the good guy microsoft stuff like really bothered me from the get-go
because you kind of if you if you if you paid any attention to like what they
did to lionhead back in the day that the guys that did fable you know that they
bought they bought lionhead after they had done fable.

(01:14:57):
And kind of mismanaged that team into the ground to the point where peter after
peter molyneux had left they turned them into a 4v1 multiplayer team and they
had just completely guttered it,
i had a feeling that they were going to start doing some of that especially
like after after the bethesda stuff you know when they bought bethesda but like
after they bought activision blizzard man it was just a matter of time but the

(01:15:22):
tango stuff man i i know there were
four teams that were closed but the tango stuff really bothers
me just how how good
hi-fi rush was and how
much they really kind of propped that up that was the really
only big game last year and i
i am thinking about starfield as well starfield was a

(01:15:44):
big bed in my opinion but oh
man i just i'm getting real tired of this stuff and i know that you know they've
layoffs are are big right now in the gaming industry and it's real sad you know
a lot of these a lot of these places are going to start cutting back big and
Microsoft is I think from what I saw the other day like they're,

(01:16:06):
somewhere in the woods of like 30,000 employees just under the Xbox umbrella which is nuts.
But yeah dude and they're saying like this isn't like the end of it but I I
am going to say here now, I'm done with Xbox for good.
I had a good run with it. I do really enjoy the original Xbox and the 360 especially.

(01:16:32):
But they never really recovered from the Xbox One stuff. And they've been scratching and clawing.
Actually, the best analogy that I saw on everything was Ryan McCaffrey over
on IGN was saying, every time they do something good, they step on a rake.
They'll take a few good steps out into the world and you get the Fallout show

(01:16:54):
right now and Fallout's doing real great right now and then they step on a rake
and they're down four studios so it's just the games are always coming,
hold on just a little bit longer, games are always coming, it's been over 10 years now,
them going third party or at the very least, I don't understand why they keep

(01:17:18):
making and hardware, but.
Releasing their games on PlayStation, Switch, and all that.
I did buy Hi-Fi Rush on PlayStation in the wake of all that. Just as a...
I guess it shows support to Tango, but Xbox still gets a rip of that, though.

(01:17:38):
I guess I'm kind of feeding the beast, but I did sell my Xbox.
I don't play it anyways, but it was already boxed up and all that stuff.
Drake still has his, but they will get no more money from this guy.
I just don't like, like the, the thing that I saw, like, you know,

(01:18:00):
studios, the studios getting shut down is like, you know, it's always bad.
I'm never excited about it. But like the thing that bothers me about that one
is the thing that they said is like, this is the reason that we shuttered that
studio is, you know, we, you know, we need to realign things.
We needed to make sure we're getting you know we need more

(01:18:22):
games that give us prestigious awards it's like high
five rush won awards it was like the only xbox game
that did like yeah especially in
a year that starfield released yeah like that
it said that if i would not have had that
on my bingo card at all but it
the quality of the things tango puts out and

(01:18:43):
i'm i'm pissed off about tango specifically i was really pissed off about about
fable when that happened but and and lion egg because i do i love fable so much
but tego specifically like you know from the evil thin to you know ghost rider
tokyo to now hi-fi rush i mean they've got they put out great video games.

(01:19:04):
And the other thing too with with that you
know microsoft says you know they want the prestige like you were saying but
they also just recently were talking about you
know making one that wanted to make the push into japan right so
they got the partners with square enix and all that you know
they're going to bring vision of the man into the xbox and then
you go and close your one fucking japanese studio it's

(01:19:27):
just like that's the only jack it's the only japanese shoes that they had and
they closed yeah it's just like like like i know that it's just the gaming industry
and there's some you know big wig who's you know five steps up from whatever
you know you know whatever studio just like,
you know, pulling the strings and, you know, pointing his finger.
But like the, the, the answer was like, they were, they were offering,

(01:19:52):
they were talking about games that were years out.
It's like, that's how you fucking make games. Like.
Games don't get made overnight. No matter how skilled the studio you're dealing
with is, if you want them to make good games, then yes, they're years out. That's the whole point.
If that's not part of your model, then maybe don't absorb a bunch of studios.

(01:20:17):
Maybe do some research on how these studios output before you start buying them up.
I'll do 100%. set so they're adopting these these studios and cultures which
i mean most of them don't have i know they got like compulsion and like nxl
and stuff and they got games that are like you know,

(01:20:37):
friday is out machine games he's got indiana joke later in the year and all
that stuff that hellblade's taken like what five seven years or whatever since
they've announced it but you're adopting these studios that have in some cases
completely different culture than you bethesda being a very big corporation,
Activision Blizzard being a very big corporation,
and then you're expecting them to fit that mold.

(01:20:59):
And I don't mean to be comparative and stuff, but it's video gaming, that's what we do.
But you look at PlayStation and they have a stable of first-party teams that
they always have something cooking.
A lot of them, they started from the ground up. And in the case of some of them making acquisitions,
they made acquisitions that made sense to their

(01:21:20):
business for example you know insomniac you know
insomniac has that history with playstation whereas something
like oh gosh well even
tango you know when they bought tango which is you know part of you know bethesda
tango had it actually bethesda in general had two playstation exclusives in

(01:21:42):
the pipe and in the pipeline so before those like when they bought bethesda
those games didn't even like Like, you know, they started the deals on PlayStation.
It doesn't really make sense. So, you know, PlayStation,
you know, years ago, like your square annexes, your Capcom really supported
them from a game point stat, you know, a gameplay or words from a game standpoint,

(01:22:06):
you know, release standpoint and all that.
But when you get to the PS3 era, you know, they've got some Santa Monica with
God of War and all that, but they really had to build up their portfolio.
Right. And over the last, you know, 10, 15 years or whatever,
like their perceived studio now, because they, they've they've they took it
from the ground level and built it up xbox doesn't have that.

(01:22:27):
They would they just choose to absorb things and make
it their own where it doesn't always make sense yeah it's
makes sense yeah i get what you're saying it's definitely it definitely feels
like part of the part of the problem and it's pursuing like it's continuing
issue is that you know sony is looking and i'm not gonna sit here and brag on

(01:22:48):
sony because sony's got its beefs too but like Like Sony's looking at,
Sony's looking at everything from a,
you know, we need to, we need to build our game library and we are,
we're looking at everything from like a, there's going to be a PlayStation six,
there's going to be a PlayStation seven.
So this studio that we're working with might not put out, you know,

(01:23:12):
might not be, you know, exactly what we want, but we're going to work with them
so that when, you know, when we get to the PlayStation 5,
you know, these titles can come out and they can come out as bangers because
we had the studios who've been, you know, working with us since the PS3. and then.
Xbox just feels like hey, guess what? Our dad's Microsoft.

(01:23:35):
Money's not an issue, so just buy the companies that we need.
I don't get it, man. Like I said, I'm a big...
Especially as I get older, putting my money where my mouth is...
I i can't support that anymore i am a shareholder with microsoft like i i do
have stock in microsoft so i'm not going to get completely out of it that way

(01:23:57):
but i i can still vote with my wallet,
you know as they put games on playstation i i don't have a problem buying those
games i really don't but as far as like their consoles are concerned i can't
do it you know what i'm saying i have a feeling halo coming to playstation 5
is a inevitability at this point,

(01:24:18):
and when that day comes and it's not a matter of if it's when,
that's the day that you know you sound the trumpets dude like xbox is dead at
that point so fuck them you got some more brett drama you need to you need to,
not drama okay so i want to call this next segment a breakthrough minute i like

(01:24:43):
it do it a little bit do it a little bit of the retro gaming and all that I
am still collecting from my Sega Genesis.
It's a very quick little thing here. But I actually just I just dropped a whole
bunch of money on Sega Genesis games.
Dropped some money on sega genesis games and culture hardcore what's that
i dropped some money on sega genesis 2 you did

(01:25:06):
yeah i got you that vector man oh dude
i won't be honest with you i completely forgot about that completely that was
a crazy day but i found they had like sonic and knuckle and i appreciate that
too by the way love you for that no problem i mean literally standing in front
of it it's ten dollars i'll put ten dollars down for some classic gaming I mean,

(01:25:28):
no problem. Do Vectorman rules. Absolutely.
But I also found Complete in Box, Sonic and Knuckles, and Sonic the Hedgehog 3.
I didn't buy it. Like, Sega's really easy to collect for, especially because
those clamshell boxes, they hold up so well.
And even when they're just a little bit dirty, dude, I washed them in my kitchen sink.
That kind of, yeah, they're great. great but what i wanted

(01:25:50):
to talk about and in this real quick retro minute
is what cib means
complete box because i've seen in some
cases especially like when i've gone to like local video game stores
they don't seem to know exactly what cib means complete
box means it contains everything in

(01:26:11):
the box that would be there it would
be present when you bought it at retail sell
right right so a lot
of these quote-unquote collectors that kind of like picked
up the the hobby during like covid and and
all that other stuff like retro video games really boomed during the pandemic you
have a lot of these people selling stuff on ebay cib so genesis is easy to collect

(01:26:35):
for because like i said the clamshell box really helps protect that that front
cover art whereas with like old nintendo games that cardboard tends to kind
of wear down that That cardboard was, is actually,
it was actually the enemy of gamers.
Like it's, it's so easy to damage. It's so easy to, it gets creases.
And then the images like start saying like it.

(01:27:00):
Genesis games actually started adopting those cardboard boxes,
which makes some of those ones kind of hard to collect for, which is why I was
so excited to find a Sonic the Knuckles complete in box.
Or so I thought. Sonic the Knuckles, I think, was fine.
I think it was Sonic 3 that actually didn't have the extra little accoutrements,
you know, the registration card for Sega and all that stuff.

(01:27:24):
That's what makes things complete in box, and that's what makes things retain their value.
You so these jabronis had this
guy sold an entire genesis collective so they
had a bunch of stuff cib or what it said so on the on the sticker and all that
so i bought in that run i bought four games i bought contra i bought castlevania

(01:27:45):
i bought sonic 3 and i bought sonic knuckles all in the box so sonic and knuckles
actually had like you know the instruction manual the box
and then the the inserts that go with it and all that stuff castlevania on the
other on the other hand did not have the little card with it so they were charging

(01:28:06):
for the cme price and not including everything so necessarily.
For an occasional thing like if you're selling something complete box make sure
that it's actually complete box. Yeah, absolutely.
I love doing the Sega stuff. It's been fun doing this with my son.

(01:28:27):
I've got my little CRT television and we've got that thing hooked up on there.
It looks beautiful on there.
Know sega genesis as well i was i didn't have
a whole lot of the games and stuff i knew kind of what other people had
so it's been fun kind of going back to that
and you'll buy back what i had as a
kid and then buy an extra shop just disposable income

(01:28:49):
so anyway yeah that's
all i i'm so excited i andrea doesn't
i totally want to do sega saturn and and dreamcast i'm really when i get my
like at some point in the future we are going to be moving into a bigger house
so i can have an office again and when i have my office like say a saturn and dreamcast or,

(01:29:13):
i'm gonna start my collection where battle collections versus each other i think
that would be something really cool to kind of do for the pod because like i
didn't i where i collected for the dreamcast i didn't do anything with the saturn
so i had a lot of dreamcast games but i I have absolutely other than what you guys had at your house.

(01:29:33):
I have no experience with the salary. So that'd be kind of something kind of
cool to do to, you know, alongside each other and like compare pickups.
Yeah, absolutely. It'll definitely, it'd be fun for the pod.
Just get something new and we can talk about it on here. So yeah, I'm down.
Oh yeah. We would do some atros. Yep. Yep. Yep. I've been talking for a while.

(01:29:54):
So what I'm basically, I'm just going to do my, my thing I'm thankful for.
Me and Andrea started this thing where we kind of because basically both of
us were taking care of the kids on Saturday and Sunday so neither one of us
got to do have any sort of weekend and we would just both be dealing with kids all day both days.

(01:30:17):
So we started a thing where we would, you know, I take one day, she takes the other day.
And one of us handles the kids all day that day. And so the other one can have
a break and then we switch on the other weekend day.
So we started this last week. And then today, today is my day to be kind of off.
So I tried to plan everything that I wanted to do today so that I wasn't interrupting any of her stuff.

(01:30:39):
Stuff so i've been
working on trying to work on getting my portfolio done for like
like at this point it's like almost a
year i got more work on my
portfolio done last weekend than i
had in the entire year before that like yeah
just having the time and like being able

(01:31:03):
to just focus and know that you know i have that
time to do it i've been able to get so much done it's awesome like if if you're
if you're out there listening and you're not like sectioning some time to like
mentally work on your own goals
you need to like you need to put some time aside to do it because it's,

(01:31:25):
so worth it so that's mine yeah i second that time is our most valuable currency
that's one thing that we spend and can never get back.
I don't mean to get super existential with that stuff, but it's incredibly true.
Money you can spend and you can work harder and get back and all that stuff,
but you can't do that with time.

(01:31:47):
And time for yourself is incredibly precious. Absolutely.
We've got to take care of our own mental health because nobody else is going to take care of it for us.
That's awesome, man. I'm excited because tonight night is like our me and andrews
chill night and we are absolutely gonna get drunk and play some mario kart yeah

(01:32:08):
we're we uh i'm sorry i'm extending this but like last time we got drunk we played a,
like a mario 3 versus i i
i forgot how fun that thing is just in
its simplicity we had good blast i
had so much fun i don't
know the the two-player mode the versus mode and

(01:32:30):
mario 3 mario 3 yeah oh yeah like
it's it's really simple but like it's simple in this way that like instead of
like actually versus battling you're you're trying to like set up traps for
the other oh my god we had so much fun and then add alcohol to it 10 out of 10 ign.

(01:32:53):
Funny story about that my grandpa bill wasn't great at a lot of video games
he's the one that really introduced me to games he was great at that mode and
he was such a fucking troll,
it's the name of the game you got it you have to be a troll to win at that you

(01:33:13):
have to be and andrea because andrea's anything mario related andrea is really
good at so like Like, she,
like, I totally, when we first started playing, I totally forgot that the coins were a thing.
So, I was like, why are you staying up at the top? Why is she staying up at the top all the time?
And then she literally, like, beat me three rounds in a row on coins.
And I was like, you, it was so much fun. Sorry, please go ahead.

(01:33:37):
No, no, no, that's, yeah, I kind of forgot that that mode actually existed.
So, you know, I'll have to give that a try with Drake sometime. He'll hate me even more.
He already doesn't play mario kart with me so but nobody will play mario kart
with me yeah i wonder why you don't play freaking you don't play motion control

(01:33:57):
so no i don't play motion control because i want to win damn it.
But motion controls and alcohol is what makes it fun,
well not not what makes it the last time i actually took a handicap on that
i was playing with my nephews and they didn't know any better this is my my

(01:34:17):
sister's adoptive kids so she's got,
three of her own and then three step kids
so i they were playing multiple players and all that stuff and all they have
were just the little joy cons on their sides so i took that little thing and
just completely demolished them i don't know how i did it with that tiny thing
but i did it so it's a skill thing

(01:34:39):
brother i think even if i did motion controls i think i probably still,
i think i probably still do okay i don't know you gotta do motion controls man,
two drinks and motion controls is like that's like my peak weekend honestly
yeah as i've become an adult two drinks and motion controls on mario kart peak.

(01:35:02):
To do that where we would play it was like mario kart 64 i
think but we would play there's me
and my roommates and you have to like finish your beer before
the end of the race and then you can't but you can't drink
and drive right so you gotta you have
to either drink when you're falling off or you have to like stop
to drink and then pick it back up again yeah i

(01:35:24):
played that that's where boys become men
so me and andrea just play like since it's
the two of us sitting on our couch we just play whoever whoever
if you don't get first place you drink and then whoever the highlight reel focuses
on that person drinks oh my gosh so basically that's brutal if you're if you're

(01:35:49):
if you're playing too good that means you need more alcohol,
and if you're getting your butt kicked in the in the the highlights then you're
playing too soft and you need more alcohol. Interesting.
All right. I don't know if I would survive.
Well, I mean, if you're, if you're, if you're playing too good,

(01:36:12):
then eventually you're going to get drunk enough that you're not going to be playing too good.
And then solves the problem. Solve the self. It just means you're going to be getting drunk.
I don't know about that. I think, I think even if we need to get a day,
cause I don't, I don't drink very much, but even when I do, I'm a tank.
I don't know. We need to get a day where I can get a ride or something like that.

(01:36:35):
I'll come down and school you guys. Bring it on.
All right, bubs. Yep. Hell of an episode. Hell of an episode.
I'm still cracking up that 40% of this episode is me explaining that Kendrick can drink beef.
How is that different than the WrestleMania episode from a few weeks back?

(01:36:56):
It's the same exact thing.
All right, man. I love you. I'll talk to you later. Love you too,
brother. Have a good one. Yep. Peace. Bye.

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