Game dads - 22 - Spicy Celebrations and Dragon Ball Memories: A Game Dads Special - GameDads

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All right. So, welcome, everyone, one and all, young and small,
to the Game Dads podcast.
My name is Aaron, and I am with the hostess with the mostess.
Oh, I'm Brett Altmiller, and I'm here. That's you. My insides are on my outside.

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Fine and welcome to
the game dad's podcast where we talk about video games apparently
spicy wings and everything else under the sun oh dude like before we like get
into topics and and stuff we gotta talk about yesterday a little bit because
like we don't get together as often as we probably should but erin and i were

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together yesterday and it was amazing yes so So,
my birthday was a couple days ago.
And, you know, as an adult, you do birthday parties on days that are convenient
for other adults. It's not just on your birthday.
So, we had a little party yesterday.
Everybody came by. We got some amazing gifts from my friends.

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And we did a fake half-assed hot ones.
And we literally got the hot
ones like sauce pack if you guys don't know
what hot ones is look it up but basically you do interview questions while eating
spicy wings and i've got a cat in here who is literally trying to choke herself

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on some plastic so that's not good yeah yeah my cat is by my side, Mr.
Thor is the fluffiest boy.
He is not trying to choke himself though. No, it's just BB in the corner. It just...
Like sucking down plastic and then spitting it

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back up we got you okay so if
you don't know hot ones is a show where they do interview questions while eating
increasingly spicy wings and brett
wrote brett got some questions for me and we
ate spicy wings and answered them and it
i love how it started i absolutely love

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how it started every person was trying every a
saw a wing with every sauce on it and then we got
to that back half and the number dropped substantially really
fast oh yeah dude i'll tell
you that the one that impressed me was your buddy
dave god yeah that dude he knows
oh so like aaron and i like we went through the whole spectrum we ran the whole

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gamut it was like 10 yeah 10 different sauces from beginning to end we had them
all and And there were a couple that kind of doubled us over a little bit.
You know, we were reeling.
And Dave was sitting there like, oh, yeah, I don't do spicy food very often.
You know, my stomach isn't always the best thing in the world.

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And, you know, I can relate because, you know, I'm old too.
And that dude, like, the stuff that was doubling us over, he took it.
And he's like, you know what? That's not so bad. We can play with kids.
Just complete and no-sold it. Do you want to hear the secret?
Did he chug milk beforehand? What's the secret? No, okay.

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So, this is one of my other friends who I just met recently.
And, you know, we got close to because we both are the same age.
We have kids that are the same age.
And he lives literally, like, down the block from me. Like, I can see his house from my front door.
But Dave is actually from the Virgin Islands.
Oh, wow. and they have he was telling andrea this story while we were all passing out from heat pain,

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they have a pepper there at
the in the virgin islands that's called moda cunt and i've done a few more cunts
in my life so he like it's he said according to him it's hot on the level of
the bomb the one that we both almost died on.

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Yeah dude i don't understand like that thing was mid-tier when was
it the the ending one yeah what's that one called the the
last dab the last dab is the
is the last one and like i don't know if doing
the bomb just like annihilated all of
my heat receptors to the point where it didn't hurt but the last
two after that were like nothing yeah i

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i actually went back for seconds on uh the
last stab and i and i literally
like like i put when i put the sauce on
my wing and i was like are you sure and i was like
you got to do extra for the last one so like i like literally
had a huge amount and i ate it i was like
this is nothing like i not even in

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the comparison to the bomb yeah i
i was impressed by the sauces i thought a lot
of them were very flavorful i'm going to
buy myself some yeah like that was the thing that really that was the thing
that really impressed me about it like the the like the first one was just like

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kind of just like a basic hot sauce and then the second one was kind of like
a like a mexican kind of blend.
But then like after that they got hot they got
i mean it didn't take it took a while before they got hot hot
but like they were all just like so like uniquely flavored
i was like these are just good like i would put this on i would
put this on tacos every day for the next month like oh

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definitely like some of them were that good and then like
we got to the bomb and it was like okay this is annihilating my
taste buds well i thought the bomb was pretty good too it was good it was good
but like until it killed me yeah i literally like i took it you can you taste
the flavor for like five seconds and then the heat behind it is just like i

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was sitting there in my brain like i I want to drink something,
but the last thing I actually want to do is swish this around in my mouth.
The milk helped, definitely. I don't know if you saw me go back for seconds on the bomb.
I lathered that thing up, dude.
On that first one, I just kind of dumped it on there because I was like,
ah, we're three away. It ain't that bad. It ain't that bad. No.

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I'm a fire-breathing dragon at this point. It's a completely different...
From six to seven was like complete we were in a completely different zone like
it was completely different atmosphere yeah,
oh my god definitely a good time though i like that was a a unique birthday party that.

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Like it was it was definitely a lot of fun and i appreciate andrea kind
of trusting me with a lot she had texted me a few days ahead of
time just asked if i would be comfortable kind of
like asking like coming up with interview questions or
whatever and i asked her like hey like i don't know what the format is but do
you want me to host it like like if
we were to kind of do like content or whatever and i kind

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of like i mentioned it a little bit but i kind of wish we had made
that like i would i would love to do it
again in like a hot ones like setup
where it's me and you sitting across from each other at a
table asking questions like i didn't want to like you
know like when you put a podcast mic in the
middle of a party like that means the people who you know aren't part of the

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podcast and are just there are also part of it or they're gonna feel they need
to be quiet in order for us like i just said i didn't want that for a party
i was like let's let's just enjoy But like to do it again, I mean,
I don't know how your stomach would handle that,
but if we were to do it again, I would absolutely do it again.
And like, just have like us do it as a podcast thing.

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Right. right that for you dude i would definitely do
it i think my main problem and again
my problem is my gastrointestinal stuff
like i can do spicy foods like no problem
but i haven't had that spicy stuff i like that level of spicy things it's gosh
it's it's probably been three four years at at the most like or at least rather

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it's been a while and definitely nothing that's making sense.
I mean, not to get like too far into the weeds and stuff since I was hospitalized
a couple of times like this, but no, it was it was totally worth it.
I played a lot of Dreamcast last night,
I felt like Rob Lowe in Parks and Recreation, dude. That whole stop pooping.

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Man, I had a really good time. Like I said, it was just a super chill experience.
I love all of my friends.
You guys could have stayed as long as you wanted to stay.
But I also love like now that I'm an

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adult I'm like party we start hard
at a time we have fun and then the party ends and
we everyone goes home and enjoys a nice sleep
like I like having those parties that
like you know just kind of like we do
the thing and then the thing's over and everyone goes home and sleeps in their
own bed yeah no we've definitely had

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a good time and I think i think the there
was a young version of ourselves and
all of our heads last night and we all
kind of wanted to keep going but the close the the farther
past eight o'clock we went we were just like i gotta go and
like you guys gotta gotta drive ahead of you so like i
was like yeah everybody let's let's let's all sleep in

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our beds we definitely stopped at portola last
night right chris and tarja forgot their air fryer so
they came back oh did they yeah oh you
can't live without your air fryer i feel you oh
man but that was it was great i really appreciated it and you know it was just
it was a good time yeah all right well you want to talk about some video games

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since it actually has been a while yeah i've been collecting a lot lately so
i'm not sure i think with the last episode,
we were kind of talking about some of the Genesis games that I got.
I got a lot more. I've actually kind of switched lanes a little bit.
I got everything that I want for the Genesis, I think.
For the most part. There's a couple more Streets of Rage games I want to get.

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But between my son and I, dude, we've probably got maybe 20-ish funding games in the last few weeks.
So I've got a couple of expensive ones for my Dreamcast. I got Power Stone.
I got Dino Crisis, Resident Evil 3.
I'm pretty excited about those ones. I bought a couple of PlayStation games,

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even though I don't necessarily have a PS1.
I picked up the Holy Trinity of Final Fantasy games.
So I got 7, 8, 9. drake had his n64 he was pretty pumped about that so he's
got resident evil 2 which he's really excited about and perfect dark and banjo
kazooie i'm moving some stuff out but we have been going real hard with these

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games lately and i'm ready to stop spending money.
Yeah yeah that is it is one of the the the big drawbacks of being the collector you get into a
zone and then like after you get go through it
for a while you're like oh shit how much money have i spent recently just buying
video games dude and i talked to you last night about it like i i had to stop

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myself like i i allot myself money like i save up stuff i i have my own like
you know video game fund and like i'm responsible with the things that i get but we went to this new,
new to us store we had talked about a little bit last night i think we had been
there or like i I think he would take me there a few years back.
And I don't, I remember the store, but I don't like, I remember the inside of

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the store, like once I got into it and stuff, but I don't really remember ever
going there. If that makes sense. Yeah, I get it.
But they had, apparently somebody had just traded in a bunch of Sega stuff and
that's across Genesis game gear, dreamcast and Sega Saturn.
And I have never owned a Saturn before.

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So as I was kind of perusing through, I had a stack of Dreamcast games in my hand as I do.
I went up to the front desk area and I noticed they had a couple of Saturns up there.
I'm like, and there were 160 bucks, you know, that's a pretty decently priced
Saturn, especially if they're like loose or whatever.
They had a model one and a model two, which brother, I don't know anything about Saturn.

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So they kind of explained it to me a little bit, but the person that helped
me was incredibly knowledgeable.
So I really appreciate their help.
So i went back to their their sega kiosk or whatever or not kiosk but like the
glass enclosure which didn't have a lot of stuff in there but they had some

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pretty like what they did have was great so like i got a sealed copy of that
sealed complete copy of crazy taxi,
complete copy of two raider chronicle like it's it's even got like the insert like the,
it's one of those like registration cards you send in uh expired in 2001 but
i'm still considering mailing it but they had a copy from the sega saturn of

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x-men versus street fighter.
But it was japanese decently priced
it was 75 bucks and i kind
of went down that rabbit hole of like okay i can buy the saturn how do i read
and break this thing so i can play this japanese game like i had dude it was
this whole like mental like set of gymnastics or whatever in my brain of like

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how do I get this thing going?
How do I justify spending the money on this Sega Saturn?
When ultimately I decided to just kind of pass on it, but it was really cool
to kind of be able to touch it and have it in my hand and kind of go through that whole journey.
But what I tell, I'm not, I don't

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classify myself, classify myself as a collector or anything like that.
I just, I'm just not, I'm more of an enthusiast.
If you can't justify the buy, if there's not games on it, you're going to play
my role for my son is that there's five games on that console that you want
to play, then go ahead and buy it.
But I could not justify the money

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to spend on that Saturn. So I did the responsible thing. I put it back.
Let's see when, when I actually like hit that point, the first thing I'm going
to have to do is region break mine because I, there's so, So many Japanese-only
titles that came out for the Dreamcast that I want.
And plus, I remember... One thing I specifically remember about the Dreamcast

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was it was... Or, sorry, Sega Saturn.
It was so easy to play modded games.
And you could basically just burn CDs and half-ass run them on Sega Saturn.
Saturn, like I laid things off first thing I'll do when I get mine is I'd have to origin break it.

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Yeah, I, I went down that rabbit hole and I've considered doing it with my dream
cast dream cast is so much easier to buy for, in my opinion,
I, my, my members of the Saturn are, are basically just playing what I played at your house,
but you can kind of tell even in
now in 2024 that you know the saturn was just kind of a it was a stop gap for

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sega between the genesis which was you know started it didn't start off hot
but it got hot and then it definitely cooled down but they were putting the
saturn out to kind of compete with the playstation,
and even now dude like it's it's kind of hard to justify that that purchase
but the people that had the Saturn that really invested in it,

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especially at the time, dude, love the Saturn.
But the drink has just so much easier to buy for.
It's that, you know, the, the games look better.
I've, uh, I've actually got my running on a VGA to HDMI adapter,
which allows me to play it on like a high definition television.
And then upscales the, the VGA courts is like, there's the 80 stuff.

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They are the red, yellow, white stuff.
But, And the BGA apparently lets it run at a higher fidelity and stuff.
I got this thing running on... I had it on my 65-inch, but it's a little bit too much overkill.
So I got it running on a smaller 32-inch TCL television.
And dude, that thing is gorgeous.

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Gorgeous. It runs so well. A lot of those games run at 60 frames a second.
So like Crazy Taxi runs really well.
Some games don't support that BGA stuff, but dude, that game is just,
it's so much more playable than the Saturn in my opinion.
But I, I think eventually you and I have talked about this before,
like crossing that bridge and pull that band bandaid off.

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And eventually maybe just start starting that second, that second Saturn collection up.
Yeah. I honestly feel like the, like.
Don't hold me to this because I don't have a game list in front of me,
But, like, I feel like Sega Saturn,
even though it was short-lived and even though it was kind of the death of Sega,

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it still, like, the games on the Sega Dreamcast just feel like,
I don't know, they feel bigger to me.
I feel like all of the big titles that were Dreamcast, I mean,
not exclusive anymore, but at the time, like, they felt bigger to me.
Like, that was the thing that I feel like the Sega Saturn was missing.

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None of the games on Sega Saturn felt like AAA titles.
Like they all felt like they all felt had this kind of like,
like either like ports or like the exclusive titles that were on there were
like, like something kind of like weird and niche.
Like I remember so many games that I played on Sega Saturn that like eggs like

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disappeared into the ether that don't exist anymore.
There are no new versions of there are no ports of there are no like there's
stuff on the Sega Saturn that is Sega Saturn forever.
If you want to play this game, you need to buy a Sega Saturn and buy it.
Right. And like, that always seemed weird to me. That always seemed like...

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I mean sega is not around anymore so obviously some of their ips aren't
you know propagating anymore but like there's some
games on the sega saturn that i'm like why isn't there a
sequel or remake to this oh yeah
dude i mean some of the heavy hitters definitely moved over
like knights into dreams and guardian forces you
know that kind of stuff yeah like i'm a i don't

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know man i've always kind of saw myself as
kind of a student of the game i don't really know what's out on
the side like like yeah that's
exactly what i'm saying yeah panda dragoon like
they're just so many random titles that
came out for the dream cat or the sega saturn they're
just like not around anymore like i

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remember like it's at the point where like there are some games
that i know were actually big on the on
the saturn that i just like i can't remember
what they're called because i know i played them
but i don't remember what they called them like they only
existed on the saturn and they are you know gone now
so like there are no sequels unless they're japanese only sequels that were

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released somewhere that just i don't know about right well i was thinking about
that excellent street fighter game and how much i wanted to play it i've always
wanted to i've never actually had the opportunity to play it that marvel versus
capcom collection is coming.
That all those Capcom, Marvel fighters,

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X-Men versus Street Fighter is in that.
And that's kind of like where I started thinking about the practicality of everything.
You can invest that and play it on original hardware and they had HDMI adapters, all that good stuff.
I could get that thing going if I wanted to, like within the next week.
Order some stuff on eBay, do what you got to do. but the practicality of it

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i'm gonna be able to play that on playstation here pretty soon anyway so i'm
gonna just hold off i can't wait for i literally cannot it's one of the games
that's on my like birthday list i literally cannot wait for that game to drop i'm totally gonna,
pick that up and just be by myself playing if right so one of the things i was

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thinking about we can move on after this if you want to because i think we kind
of spent too much time on it but,
like you know i'm a capcom guy yeah capcom is my all-time favorite developer
give me megaman give me resident evil give me street fighter i love all these games dude sega low-key,

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and not even really low-key if you really if you're kind of in the know and
stuff that dude that gets kind of like the like the greatest place to play capcom games games. Yeah.
Like those fighters are all there.
Those, the resident evil ports from PlayStation were really good.
It got its own resident evil, like exclusively.

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Code Veronica, I mean, we were, dude, you, me, and Chris were talking about revisionist history.
People hated Code Veronica when it came out. But, like, people love that game
now. But, like, that game is great.
But, like, if you're a Capcom fan, dude, it behooves you to own a,
either a Saturn, which there's a ton of Capcoms on the Saturn.

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But there are even more than Dreamcast. Powerstone.
Like, talk about games that aren't out anywhere else, dude.
Where's power stone god like there's
an alternate universe dude where the dreamcast thrived and
we were on power stone like we've got
power stone ultimate super special it's power

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stone ultimate and super smash brothers ultimate yeah and
like everyone's here you know what i mean this this ultimate power
stone game so who are those people no
clue no idea no clue but they're there i just like that is that's one of the
things that like makes me want to collect for the dreamcast and the saturn it's

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just i feel like there were so many like extremely unique games that came out
for those systems that like there isn't a replacement for it like they're,
like there isn't you know there isn't a sequel there isn't a remake there isn't
a remaster there isn't even a re-release it's just like there are just some
games that came out on saturn and And Dreamcast, I just... You gotta play them

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on Saturn and Dreamcast.
Yeah. I...
There's some games that made it out, and I love that, but you know,
Crazy Taxi just doesn't feel the same without the offspring.
Doesn't. And you can play that on Xbox, but it just is not the same. I...

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Take me to Pizza Hut! I literally remember the first time I picked up a version of Crazy Taxi that
doesn't start with that guy with the dude from off from offspring
going yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and i like paused it
i was like what is happening right now
i know how this is supposed to start and it's not starting right well and dude

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there are so many offspring songs in that game i'm a pretty big offspring fan
like that's they're one of my favorite bands that you take offspring out of
that you take like and dude everybody now complains about advertisements and games but the...
Crazy tattoos it's not the same without pizza hut
oh my god like the fact that like like to

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think about how it was then to how
it is now and like how bad
people hated that subway commercial with freaking
that uncharted subway thing that they did like
how much people hated it to go back to how much
we'd love driving these people to kfc and pizza
and the levi's yeah it's dude

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night and day difference you just unlock something in my brain with that uncharted
subway thing they had what it was something i it was it was exclusive through
subway and it was something you could play in the it was it was a beta i was
that was it was the multiplayer thing for uncharted 3 yeah i hadn't eaten at a subway,

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oh god when that didn't come out 2011 i probably hadn't eaten at a subway in
maybe 10 years i don't like like Like, Subway's whatever.
I'm not going to say I don't like Subway. But, like, I hadn't eaten there in
years. And, dude, I was so ticked that I had to go to Subway and order food.
Oh, my God. I just, I remember, what I remember is that, like,

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commercial with, like, the fully rendered Nathan Drake.
And then at the end is him, like, manhandling a wrapped Subway sandwich.
Yeah. oh my god
i just i don't remember everyone was

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like this is the worst thing i've ever seen in
my life get this off my screen and don't ever do
this again great game great game
but like terrible advertising but you
know do what you gotta do gotta get them but gotta get
them yep oh my
god all right we've talked too long about my stuff what you

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got going on brother oh god not not a
lot i didn't remember if i if the
last time we talked was before my vacation or after before
okay so i went on
vacation i went to ghost went to dc to for a family reunion to and it was like

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also the first time my kids had met my extended family that mostly live in st
louis So like literally the first time they have met anyone,
family, any family that's outside of Indiana.
So like aunts, uncles, great aunts, cousins, great cousins, all it was like

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50 of us, I think like 55 at the time of the final total.
And like I said before, my aunt and my, she's actually my cousin, my cousin who.
Plan the whole thing she's a project manager
like an it project manager whose job is to
like help software and stuff get built so

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she is excellent at planning and
managing people so she found the hotel that had the best like free breakfast
so we would there's literally like a buffet style breakfast every morning that
all of us could go like that was big enough for.

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55 people to go through and a reasonable
amount of time it was crazy so we get there and there's this big like restaurant
area where we're all going and getting our breakfast so like literally at like
nine o'clock like my entire family like extended family are all downstairs taking up like.

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Half of this restaurant where all of us are
sitting and eating that's awesome so what'd
you have they did a rotate it was french toast
the first day there was waffles the second day pancakes the third
day and then back to french toast and over and over again
but like i mean we're talking sausage eggs
bacon you know uh make your

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own omelet station where
like the guy that cooks behind the counter would make up your
omelets for you like oh man i love that
like muffins are out like five
different juices that they were rotating like it
was crazy it was crazy big so but like literally dom is like a chicken with

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her head cut off because like she understands that like every one of the people
who's sitting with us is related to her in some way and this is the
most people she's ever been around and it's the
most people who are part of our family that
she's ever met so she's just going from table to table introducing
herself and like running around like i'm like i

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have to like eat with one eye keeping on her because i'm like i gotta make sure
she's staying you know with the family and not just talking to strangers yeah
but she had an absolute blast she was just so happy to meet everybody everyone
was so happy to meet her and And it was just.
It was, it was so awesome.

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And like, I was so happy to, for that experience for her, because like before
we moved to Indiana, I was like, I'm going to go to Indiana.
We had a huge family. My dad's family is huge. My mom's family is huge.
And 80% of all of our family is in St. Louis.
So it's more similar to how I grew up.

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So it was nice for her to get to have that moment.
And it's also really nice because 55 people are watching after,
you know, there was like maybe two other kids that were her age.
But you have 55 people watching her. So if she runs off in one direction,
someone's going to grab her.
So I wasn't like me and Andrea weren't solely responsible for watching her the

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whole day. And that was nice.
And we went to the, the Frederick Douglas house.
We went to the MLK Memorial. We went to the Washington monument.
We went to the Jefferson monument and then we went to the Lincoln Memorial and like. Oh, awesome.

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I'm forgetting one other thing we did. Oh, yeah. We went to the Museum of African
American History and Art.
And that thing is bananas.
It's like six stories tall.
It's like a museum, but it's also like a chronological tour.

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So you literally start in the basement.
And the basement is like...
Slavery times and then as you walk up
it goes through like the reconstruction and then the
civil rights movement and then like the very top is
like current and this is like music and theater and
you know like famous actors and stuff but like you literally as

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you walk up you like go through like chronological
order of history and it was it was
awesome it's one of those things that like if you
are a person who can tolerate museums it's one
of the best i've ever been to yeah a very
a well curated museum can be the difference between
being like super bored and you know

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just everything else i mean so like that's pretty
cool it's it's like the way
that it's set up is so like very very specific like it's in chronological order
which is crazy they'll think like they literally like from the start of the
museum from the first thing you see all the way up it's chronological all the

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way up to the very top and then like,
active you know like literally like they
have like a i mean like it's kind of effed up but it's like a literal they're
like the first part is literally like a like a recreated like slave ship and
then like as as you start going back up they're like they're like they do like

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they did like a recreation of like a.
Like a train car based on like, like the segregation, segregated train car that
you have to walk through.
And like, it's all the way, all the way up to the very top. It's super crazy.
It was, it was, like I said, the best museum that I have ever been to.
And it's literally like, it's so it's made that way specifically because you

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have to like set up an appointment and have a guide take you through it.
Yeah. So they explain everything as you're going up and around all the way to the top. It's very cool.
We did that. We went to the White House. I went to the White House. That was cool. Yeah.
The White House was, I think the tour that they have is, like,

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different since January 6th.
Because, like, it went from, from what I've been told, it went from.
Like, being, like, an hour-long, like, tour through a whole bunch of different parts.
So, like, there's just one section that you were allowed to go into.
Do and it's like they're super historical side

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you're not even taken to the other side where
like like actual anything happens it's
purely like historical you don't see any
body or anything a tour guide walks you through
you go through like pretty much just like one loop and
then like back out the other side and out the door i went
through we had to go through three security checks before

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they let us in we had to go through one when
we got to the when we got there there were you know
like armed officers outside and then
they pat you down and then you go inside to where
another officer pats you down and you get a screening they
have to get you have to get your driver's license and like they screen you then
you go through a set of stairs and go up and then there's

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another screening that you have to go through with a metal detector and
a pat down before you're allowed to go in and like i said the
place that we were there's nothing like all there
is is paintings pictures and security guards
oh my gosh dude and i i don't want this podcast to be incredibly you know political

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because it's not fair to people if they're if they're expecting video games
and get politics and stuff but it's really sad that you know we've come to that, you know, I just.
I understand the reasoning behind that.
You know, a bunch of crazy people stormed the Capitol and all that stuff.
But dude, just F MAGA though.

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Sorry. Oh, okay. We're going to move on. He said the thing.
Okay. I did say, I did say the thing, but we're going to, but my,
my trip to DC was awesome.
I have one thing about DC that I have to complain about.
I loved DC as a city, as a person,
it was, it never felt dangerous no

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you know it's a big city has people wiring around
just like you know like indianapolis or chicago never
felt dangerous at all like not one bit like me
and andrea were just walking around like you know
stop and get a bite to eat and you know hit up
the restaurant then we just walk back and then catch an uber back to
the hotel like never felt dangerous at all but

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as a person
in a car dc sucks oh
man on a scale of one to chicago how was worse the
worst place i had ever driven in my life really i
drove in the dominican republic where half the roads are dirt roads and driving

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in dc was worse wow it's so bad i like okay so let me explain the situation so So,
and it was me, Andrea,
my mom, and, you know, Dom and Lee.
So, we decided, like, instead of trying to fly, because that's going to,

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you know, buying freaking four tickets to fly is going to be super expensive.
And then, like, we still have to deal with, you know, getting around.
And we still have to deal with, you know, dealing with car seats because we
have two. Like, it's going to be a pain in the butt. So, we're like, why don't we just...
Drive. So I pulled off the biggest con in history and happened to hit one of the.

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Flight package websites where they kind of let you package everything into one,
like Expedia and Travelocity and stuff like that.
And I happened to hit it, according to the lady behind the counter,
I hit it within the right 24 hours of an error that was allowing people to get.
Suburbans for the price of compacts so i got my gosh i got i got a suburban,

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like for like that could sit that comfortably seats like nine people for like
for a week for like four hundred dollars it was crazy like she told me what
the actual price was normally like if i had gotten i had tried to book it that
day and it was like eight hundred and fifty dollars,
holy cow like i deal of the

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century so you know
i drive all my life i've driven pretty small cars the biggest car i've ever
driven was the jeep when i had it and it's the jeep kind of is better but i
mean my normal car is a freaking kia soul so like i'm in this huge suburban driving around,

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and like the suburban it was
it was a 2000 2014 24 so
it was like brand new had all the bells and whistles and
the little like icons that tell you if you're driving right in the lane and
all kinds of crazy stuff that i've never dealt with before but over the you
know nine hours it took us to get to dc i got used to all of it i was pretty

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comfortable driving the car
at this point then we got to freaking DC and like driving in DC is like.
You have to take literally every section of road.
You just got to like, is its own thing. Like I literally, we were driving down the road.
The car said, the navigation said, turn left. I looked to my left. There is a no entry sign.

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There is a parking sign. There's a one-way sign.
There's like every sign you can imagine is on my left.
Then i look and like
on the left behind those
roads going down is a
tiny little piece of road is where i'm actually

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supposed to go that turns left then goes into a tunnel that i can't see that's
under me in a circle around and then goes back out like to the right so i have
i'm like Like, looking at the MapQuest or,
like, the MapQuest, the Google directions, it looks like I'm turning left.

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But I'm actually turning right because I'm turning left into a tunnel that turns right.
I was like, how does anyone without Google drive here?
It doesn't make – none of this makes any fucking sense. I'm looking at a no turn, a no entry sign.
Like, there are roads that, like –.

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You're crossing a road and then like in the middle of the road,
there'll be another stop sign, another stoplight that like you have crossed the road.
Stop in the middle between like a left lane and a right lane.
Then you have to wait for that light to turn green to go the rest of the way across the street.
It is literally the worst place I have ever driven in my entire life.

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Safe i like if i ever go to dc again there is zero percent chance that i will
drive anywhere i'm like nope i'm just gonna take ubers i don't care i don't
care how much it costs i'll just take uber the entire time i'm there because
this is this is a hellscape.
And like the dc has

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a very active let's say health community because like there are people on bikes
there are people walking there are people running there are people on rollerblades
and everything all over the place and not only do you have these streets to deal with the they have.
Their own lights and from what

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i could tell their lights take priority over yours none
of those people have any any idea
of like watching traffic waiting
for traffic waiting for cars to go by no you're
waiting on them and if that means you're sitting
at a light for four instances in
a row because the what people walking just did not give you a

(41:29):
chance the drive-thru that's what's happening like i was
like i'm never driving this place like ever again
it was terrible and like
i'm with my cousins and all of them and you
know they had a like they had like a giant
sprinter because like they came in like we're coming from
indiana so you know we're pretty much solo but like

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they were you know like 10 or 15 of
them coming from the same family and like they're like all right
why don't we just get a big sprinter van and we'll just do it together with you
know 16 seats or whatever so they like drive this giant sprinter
so he has this giant sprinter that he's
trying to drive and i was having trouble in
the super but i was like i don't know how you have been doing this all week

(42:11):
and he's like he's like i he was like i have gone to and from the exact same
place four times and never driven on the same road like no no thank you Never again.
I won't do it ever again. I hated it. I hated every minute of it.

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But other than that, other than the how hard it was to drive around in DC, DC is awesome.
I would totally go and visit again, but I won't drive.
I'm glad you had a good time. It was awesome. And D.C. is beautiful.
And another thing that I learned, people talk about all the time how flat Indiana is.

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But you don't know how flat Indiana
is until you start driving towards the Appalachia and driving around.
Indiana is flat. It is so flat.
It is ungodly flat. It is the flattest.
Flattest it's like a freaking freaking pancake in the middle of the united states it's so flat,

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and even like going down to like kentucky and tennessee and stuff like that
that's like night and day difference between you know what you send flat and
just everything else i was just i was,
amazed we were driving through like maryland a little bit of pennsylvania and
like like it's just like up one hill down another up down up down up down all

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like hours of driving just up and then down up and down and like you drive through
indiana you can drive from freaking.
The freaking chicago all the way to terre haute and you won't like maybe one
or two hills the entire way but very cool that is that is that is my vacation
story and like i said vacation was awesome.

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I had a great time. I caught up with all my cousins and stuff who I haven't
seen since the last family reunion, which was when we went to New Orleans, which was awesome.
Yeah, the last thing I'll say is, when we went to New Orleans,
I met all of my cousin's kids.

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And in kid terms, it's crazy how much five years is.
Because, like, I met all of these kids when we were in New Orleans.
And then I met them again when we were in D.C.
And, like, four of them are taller than me.
Like some of them are like
just like getting ready to go to college and stuff and like like

(44:48):
i don't recognize any of you i had to like i apologize because i don't look
that much different so you guys probably remember me i don't remember any of
you because you guys look completely different from the last time i saw you
and like literally they had to like start Start reintroducing themselves. I'm like, okay.
I remember who you are now, but sorry, I didn't remember you.

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Yeah. Kids go way too quick. I feel like that with my nephews sometimes, too.
All my nephews, they're all a foot taller than me.
Nuts. Oh, man. But it was an awesome trip. It was an awesome trip. Good.
I'm going to take a drink here. I think I also need to hydrate. That's important.

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Well, you want to talk about the man? Oh, yeah, absolutely. The myth?
The legend? Okay, so the fabled Akira Toriyama episode that we've been promising
for, I honestly think it's been like five months at this point.
Yeah, he's... Well, I think we were playing it even before he had passed.

(45:54):
Yeah, I mean, I've kind of done some homework as well. I know you've got notes.
As I said at the top of the show, I have a dog in it.
Which i know doesn't mean exactly what i'm saying so deal with it it's all good okay so.
Akira toriyama is if you don't know is the
creator of dragon ball z but he's been involved in

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tons of stuff his influences all over the
place like i mean literally if you
look at and to go to the anime route if
you look at any of the most recent popular
animes that have come out in the last 15 years they will
tell you that dragon ball z or specifically akira teriyama was
an influence on them in some way shape or form and if they don't verbally say

(46:42):
that you can see in their artwork and the way that their stories run akira teriyama
influenced them one way or another right so the first thing that i the first
thing that i found during my research that made me like Like,
that was something that I didn't know about him.
So, like, Akira Toriyama literally in his biography quotes 101 Dalmatians as

(47:08):
a thing that got him into animation. Yeah.
What? In his bio, he literally says. What reason?
He saw the animation in 101 Dalmatians and thought it was so gorgeous.
He was like, I need to do this.
This is now something I want to put in my life because I saw 101 Dalmatians

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and thought it was so awesome that I want to become an animator.
That is the truth from his bio, from his autobiography.
What got him into animation? 101 dalmatians interesting
i would have never thought that disney would influence him in that like in that
way maybe from like literally anything else 101 dalmatians but hey that's awesome

(47:54):
yeah and it's one of those things that like like you get this thing that like Like, all animation is,
like, this competitive thing and, like,
this, like, battle that's anime versus, you know, American animation and all this stuff.
But, like, it's amazing how many times you find that, like, Japanese artists

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are influenced by American artists or American artists are influenced by Japanese artists.
I was like, I love that. I love that 101 Dalmatians is the thing that got him.
Like, that's so crazy to me.
So, like, I know, like, most people, like, know Akira- if they know Akira Toriyama,
they know him for Dragon Ball Z, but, like, Akira Toriyama actually had a bunch

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of other stuff that he did before Dragon Ball Z, and a lot of stuff since Dragon Ball Z,
and a lot of stuff that he worked on while he was working on Dragon Ball Z.
The main thing that would influence him and kind of become the baseline for
Dragon Ball that rolls in the Dragon Ball Z is Dr. Slump.

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And it's just Akira Toriyama's weird love of robots and science and cars and stuff.
And then his love for potty humor put together in a cartoon.
And that's Dr. Slump. That's exactly what it is.
It's those two things and he just like slamming together

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and it's a scientist who makes a little girl who
makes all kinds of weird pot of humor jokes it's it's
it's exactly what you would expect it to be if you were like
if you didn't watch dragon ball z
and you just watched dragon ball and then you were like this
guy has another another manga you'd be like this is just
a bunch of fart jokes he's like yeah it kind of is but

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dr slump is actually like for
for like anime and like japan like japanese kids like it's not that i'm not
not even gonna say that it's as well known or more well known than dragon ball
because it's dragon ball is equally popular well for the time in Japan than

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it was in the United States,
but more people in Japan know Dr.
Slump than U.S. people know Dr. Slump. It's just...
The way that it operates, it operated really well on Japanese TV,
because Japanese TV loves pot of humor. Yeah.
But after that, he created another... Technically after that,

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because Dr. Slump continued, but while he was making Dr.
Slump, he also made the first two-part shorts called Dragon Boy.
And dragon boy is what eventually
became dragon ball and the main character
of dragon boy is literally like goku minus
a little polish and then like right after

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he made it which is this is kind of the cycle that that
uh manga goes through the manga creator
will make something but it's not actually
the show like it's not actually dragon ball but
it's very similar and then they'll put it
on shonen jump and then like the shonen jump audience
eats it up if they do then they'll go okay well

(51:11):
let me polish this a little bit and then i'm gonna make it a.
Big story and then he polished it and made dragon
ball it's like the creator
of one piece has one that's called monster and it's
literally like like i think two
of the main characters of one piece are actually in monster and

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then it like he was like oh well you guys like this let
me polish a little bit and then one piece like it's just
kind of the way they do things i don't know if it's a requirement for
shonen jump but like it kind of feels like it because every big
manga has this little one shot story that the creator made that's extremely
similar to the the big story that they created But it's like just a little like

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60 page little thing that they
put out just to like get put out some feelers to see if people like it.
So, that's Dragon Boy. Then, Dragon Boy, he polishes it up, and then it becomes Dragon Ball.
And Dragon Ball, which is an interesting thing to think about.
When it first dropped into Shonen Jump, it wasn't disliked, but it wasn't,

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like, the super popular, it wasn't an instance of success.
Success so the first season of
dragon ball if if you know dragon ball is kind
of different than the rest of dragon ball it's
got the same kind of humor feel to
it but like the first season of dragon ball is like it's
the journey to the west it's just basically like a big

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giant story of goku and bulma going
around find the dragon balls they meet yamcha and all
this stuff and they meet oolong and then like they find the
dragon balls goku transforms into
the uzaru at the end and then like boom everything kind
of works out at the end and then everyone almost kind of goes their separate
ways and then season two of dragon ball is where goku goes to train with roshi

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before the first tenkachi budokai that he joins then when that happens and they actually enter the.
Chinkachi budokai and the tournament happens is when dragon
ball like takes off like a rocket and people absolutely love
it and they're like it becomes the most popular manga in
shonen jump and it becomes like the most popular series that was going on in

(53:31):
japan at that time and like skyrockets to success but like the first season
of dragon ball while people like it loved it and like liked it it wasn't like
this instant phenomenal hit that it kind of feels like it would be because the
Dragon Ball is so popular.
But it actually wasn't.
Can I pause you for just a second? Yep, go right ahead.

(53:51):
Again, I don't want to get political or anything like that on here,
but breaking, Biden just dropped out.
Really? And he endorsed Kamala Harris.
Dang. Yeah.
Anyways, a curatorial. I was not expecting that. I was.
Not today anyway, but wow.

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Damn. Kamala's got my vote. Oh, 100%, but I was not expecting that. Yep.
Okay. okay all right back into the dragon breaking
news breaking news dragon ball z okay
yeah so from there
you know dragon ball eventually morphs into dragon ball

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z and you know becomes this super crazy popular
series that we know today right in the
meantime and while he's still in dragon
ball mode he also does the
character design artwork for dragon quest
and he also does character design
artwork for chrono trigger tabal and

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some other animes and mangas he also like
lend some story ideas too that are less credited
but just like some other stuff that he has his hand in so he's
kind of just all over the place we like
like i said we in america kind of know if
you know akira toriyama you know him exclusively for

(55:19):
dragon ball z but he's kind of he's kind of like once he hits his stride within
dragon ball z he kind of becomes this like resource of just knowledge of manga
and like a lot of he he has his hand in a lot of different stuff stuff,
even though it's not like,
you know, he's not putting his name at the top of a credits list,

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but like he has his hand in a lot of different things.
And he has, you know, he has collabs with other, with other artists.
He has, you know, since Dragon Ball Z is so popular, he was,
he had this ability to like, he would give notes to other artists that he thought
were really going to be influential.
He, you know, he had this kind of like, that like heads up nod to get artists

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into Shonen Jump because he was so popular.
He had worked with him for so long. he would you know if he saw
another manga artist who he thought was really you know
who had a really like unique idea or something
that he really took to he would you know kind of
give them the bump at shonen jump to get them published so like there are a
lot of artists who like i'm not i'm not gonna say because anime fans will come

(56:28):
at me about it if i do but like he has like he has influence at shonen jump
so there are a lot of artists who like were helped by him were you know
like encouraged by him or who were influenced by
him to make their series more popular like specifically the one i'm going to
point out to because it's very like this is cut and dry that akira toriyama

(56:50):
had something to do with this and no one's can like come and come at me about
it is taito kubo the guy who made bleach when he originally sent his first version of bleach in.
He didn't get the response that he wanted and akira
toriyama was like yo i don't know
what they're talking about this is good continue working on

(57:10):
it don't give up and i i promise you
if you don't give up this will get published like don't quit this is great and
then a bleach is like part of the big three is which is naruto bleach in one
piece as like there was a period of time after dragon ball z sales after dragon
ball z's serialization ended these those three manga were

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like the biggest selling manga in the world for a very long period of time.
And like when the author of Bleach first tried to get Bleach published,
he was like, he thought he was just gonna give up.
And like Akira Toriyama was like, no, don't do that.
This story is awesome. You need to like, you need to keep working on it and
get this published. Cause it's awesome.

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And like Taito Kubo, like site security, I'm as the reason that he continued
working on bleach to get it published.
That's incredible. Yeah. Like, like I said, he has his hand in all kinds of things.
And like, like I said, people in the West most know him for Dragon Ball Z,
but he has his hands in tons of other stuff.

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So, uh, one of the best
things that like one of the things that i think is really interesting
about akira toriyama as a person is even though he has this like insane like
influence on the manga that the anime and manga world he feel like if you like
read his bios and listen to the way he talks about himself he doesn't have that

(58:35):
grandeur about himself at all like someone asked him like
Like, and like an interview, like he, which it cares around,
but rarely ever actually does interviews.
He doesn't like to be like out in public. He's just not that kind of guy.
But like someone asked him, like, what's your perfect day?
Like, like what's the perfect day in Akira Toriyama, the Akira Toriyama's life.

(58:59):
And it's literally him building a model car, drinking a beer and reading a porno mag.
And i'm like i don't believe that at all what you don't read browsing a porno mag,
and like i'm just joking i'm like
i'm like that's like for like a dude

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who like i looked at for such a very long
time as like this like super awesome creator
and all this stuff to like read about what
the way he sees himself and just like the chill person that he is i'm like that
dude's that dude's cool as hell that's cool to like have that much influence
in the world to like have a like one of the most highly read stories of all

(59:44):
time that you created and then just be like oh whatever i'm.
Like it's not it's not to say that i don't think that akira toriyama likes dragon ball,
but like he definitely has some like indifferent feelings about it because i
feel like the way that he kind of words it is that it made his life more complicated
than he ever wanted it to be,

(01:00:06):
right and like well i mean that's like most most artists
that have and not just like like drawing artists music sometimes people just
end up if something blows up like the way it did sometimes they end up despising
their work like that just they want to be known for something,

(01:00:27):
else or or whatever you know but i totally
get that yeah and like another thing that i can say and this is opinion so please
don't come and like castrate me that i'm speaking in the curatorial on his voice
or whatever but like i feel like when you look at like what he he did before
Dragon Ball and what he did after Dragon Ball,

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you can definitely tell that Akira Toriyama is a comedy writer who just went
with the flow of his show. Like...
Like, if you look at, like, Sandland, and then, like I said, Dr.
Slump, you can tell that, like, those are, like, the wheelhouse he wanted to be in.
But Dragon Ball just kind of kept evolving into more of, like,

(01:01:12):
an action shounen than he ever anticipated it to.
Like, when he started writing Dragon Ball, he didn't plan on it being a,
like, a super martial arts, like, Like, people only care about the fights type of show.
Like, it was definitely going to be a martial arts show from the beginning.
He was always a big martial arts fan.

(01:01:34):
So it was going to be that from the beginning. But I don't think he ever thought
it was going to get to the level that Dragon Ball Z got to.
Right. And, like, you can also kind of tell that because, like,
when you go to the transition from Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball Z,
first off, they're in the Japanese original release.

(01:01:55):
There is no transition dragon ball the
manga is dragon ball from goku being a
kid all the way to the end of z it's all
just called dragon ball so so like
you can definitely tell like when you
get to the end of dragon ball and then go into dragon ball z where it kind of

(01:02:15):
moves even further into this like fighting direction even though like the end
of dragon ball is technically a tournament but But like it goes to this point
where like Goku becomes a Saiyan and like everything goes into space and all that.
And like you can definitely tell that like that part portion of it is like he

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wasn't thinking that at the beginning of Dragon Ball when he wrote,
you know, Pilaf gang running around and everyone getting Dragon Balls,
you know, like that wasn't where he thought this was going to go.
But it just kept evolving and he just kept taking it with him.
And then once he got to Dragon Ball Z he was just kind of like I want to do
space now so I'm going to do space yeah.

(01:02:58):
I actually, you know, we're going to kind of talk about our own experience with
his work and all that stuff.
But I'm about halfway through GT right now. I've seen it, but I've not seen it in its entirety.
And I've not seen it consistently like I've been watching it.
And like, I really like the start. I mean, I text you about this as I was watching it, too.

(01:03:18):
But I really like the this the contrast between Z and GT.
Like, I know he wasn't like super involved with GT.
But yeah i like the adventure aspect of it which i mean i i really like from
the original dragon ball as well like you can tell like and even with sandland
and stuff too just he loves that like,

(01:03:41):
that adventure style with the comedy and all that stuff as well i just i love
the adventure aspect of it yeah that's one of those things that i i love about
dragon ball z and i think it's one
of the reasons that it's always been like a favorite of mine,
no matter like what else I'm involved in, I've always liked it.

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But like, the thing is like Akira Toriyama has this thing that like,
I feel like a lot of other artists don't do and definitely don't do as well.
Like a Dragon Ball Z is kind of like where it, where he leaves that a little bit behind,
especially once we get towards like the Cell Saga and like the Boo Saga kind

(01:04:21):
of brings it back a little bit but like well dragon ball z is always kind of,
it's always partially comedy. Like no matter what happens, whatever,
what's going on, there's always somewhere in the background, a comedic aspect to it.
Like even like the cell saga, which, you know, is super serious.

(01:04:43):
Has Hercule who shows up at the end and just like totally toned,
turns the tone back down before everything heats back up again after he, Hercule goes away.
And then like, yeah, the boo saga is like this
super serious crazy intense like when
you look at it from like a story perspective like just people are
kind of dying left and right all kinds of crazy stuff is going on and then like

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gotenks shows up and then like takes the tone down a little bit and then things
get serious again and then at the end of that hercule shows back up and then
the tone goes back down a little bit for a while before the climax of the end
and like it always happens Like every time,
like even like we're on planet Namek with Frieza around every corner,

(01:05:27):
he's slaughtering people.
He's, you know, this tyrannical dictator who's just murder, murder and death.
And all he wants to do is find us and kill us. And then fricking Ginyu Force shows up.
Yeah. yeah like it all he
always every i think he has this very
like well planned out way
where he can like take things as serious as

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serious can get and then like especially like thinking
about how the ginyu force works like when you
go back to that moment in dragon ball z like vegeta
is like having an absolute conniption he's like oh
my god the ginyu force is coming and they're
gonna get get here and they're gonna mess everything up everyone's gonna

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die we have to like and then they show up and start dancing like that's that's
like like it's one of those things that like akira toriyama does perfectly where
he just like will take everything to the height of height and then he cuts the
tension with like some ridiculous comedy character who shows up out of nowhere,

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yeah i i love that aspect of it though and that's one of the things too that.
I watched Kai last year and you know, there's still some of that like levity
involved with it, but not as much as if you watch it straight through,
like with the original series.
And it almost kind of like that context is like, do they get their driver's license?

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Like, like that's funny. You know what I mean?
Like a super serious guy like Piccolo and like this, Goku's a doof. You know what I mean?
You know, these two guys, like, you know, the two of the strongest people,
you know, in existence and stuff and they just go have to go get
the driver's license like that's some like that's like hannah barbarus style
like nonsense like i said that that is one thing that i love about dragon ball

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z and it's one of the reasons that like it'll always be one of my favorites
no matter what comes along just because it's like i always talk about how dragon ball z has this like.
Like people know people know like a lot of what happens in dragon ball z but
like they don't You don't always think about the context of how it happens.
Right. And like, that's where Dragon Ball Z shines because some of it,

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the context of it is ridiculous. Some of it is insane.
And like, like people are like, oh man, like, man, I love Gohan so much.
And then he became the great Saiyan man.
And now he's, now he's lame because he's a great Saiyan man.
I'm like, yeah, but he's a teenager who has superpowers that are,

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i don't know i don't there's no way to even quantify how
strong gohan is at that point but like now he
is on earth with a bunch of random people and no one is in in the stratosphere
of how strong he is what is he gonna do what what is what is he gonna do with
all that all that power like what what else do you do he's literally superman
what does superman do he puts on a costume and he saves people because he's

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that much more powerful than everyone else around him,
like I love Dragon Ball Z yeah I think we both do.
Dude what about like the video game aspect of it like that I think that's probably
my favorite part I love Dragon Ball Z I love Dragon Ball,

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but like his influence on video games like to kind of like tie that back and
stuff and you look at the like the Dragon Warrior slash Dragon Quest stuff Chrono Trigger.
Most recently like the the sandland game that's come out
like his influence just like on
not just art not just television not

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just comic books but video games is
just like pop culture in general is just unheard of
yeah it's it's crazy because like
like the the thing
that makes i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm totally gonna talk about
video games just let me say this last thing like the thing
the thing that makes akira toriyama's influence

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so specifically unique and i'm
not saying like unique in a way there won't ever be another person who
has this much influence but like in a way kind
of won't be is akira toriyama is
one guy who wrote
dragon ball z and dragon ball z influences so

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many other things but like to have
your one story be that influential and.
It had it was exclusively written by you like
one person wrote dragon ball z and
dragon ball z has that much influence meaning like one person
has this much influence over the entirety of
video games movies you know

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animes like one guy is like
insane yeah like there
are so many other stories who have crazy amounts of influence but
those stories also have tons of other writers involved and tons of other you
know like people involved it like akira toriyama has like the like like tolkien
level influence and like i

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would say even more because tolkien like the lord of the rings games that
exist kind of follow the mold of other games that were made in that generation
while Akira Toriyama, uh.
Like, he kind of, like, the way that Dragon Ball,
like, like, Borokai's and, like, Dragon Ball Borokai and Borokai Tenkaichi and

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Raging Blast kind of have made this influence on other, like,
other, like, IP-based fighting games.
Like, that's, like, those games created their own, like, mode to try to capture
what a Dragon Ball Z fight looks like. But now other animes and other stories
use that mold to try and capture their stories.

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But it was kind of invented in Bodakai. Yeah.
Like, crazy, crazy, crazy influential. Where do you want to go next with what
you kind of... I will absolutely steer the ship, but I'll let you go first.
I want to talk about your personal experiences since we're a video game podcast.

(01:11:38):
Let's talk about our personal experiences with dragon ball
z related games and we kind of have a unique perspective
because i'm i'm a nerd and my brother was a nerd and james's brother was a nerd
so we got a lot of like exclusive games that were exclusive to japan for a very
long time and we played them yeah so like we can talk about that a little bit

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actually that's kind of a great,
that's a great topic to kind of bring up too because when i moved into the neighborhood
hood, you guys already had all these like pre existing like friendships and stuff.
So I was kind of a, I was always kind of an outsider and I didn't grow up with,
but, and I guess to kind of preface it, when I say grow up, I was eight when

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I moved to the neighborhood and I maybe nine, something like that.
And I didn't have these experiences with anime or anything like that.
Like the closest thing that I had or the closest thing I had to Japan was Nintendo.
And even that was like super limited. So when I started hanging out with you
guys, you know, and you guys started introducing me to a lot of different things

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from stuff like final fantasy and the man of series.
But like different kinds of animes, like, you know, you guys were really kind of on that.
I compared the wrestling a little bit to where like back in the day,
before we had the internet and stuff, we, if we were really going to see something
that was happening in like Japan or Mexico or something like that, we would trade tapes.

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That's how I discovered Chris Jericho in the mid nineties and stuff.
And just like, I, I've got his like Corazon de Leon stuff from,
from Mexico and Ryan Hart stuff from Japan.
And I was able to kind of see what he was like before he debuted in ECW and WCW and stuff.
So we're the same sort of idea, but you guys would get these episodes of Dragon

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Ball Z. And I saw them all kind of like broken up.
So like, it wasn't like from start to finish or anything like that until I got to the cartoon network.
Work but you guys have the toys you
guys have the games and you guys don't you guys didn't just have like
the games like now you got the budokai stuff like you
can just i can i can go to best buy right now and buy kakarot you would have

(01:13:46):
to because they weren't very they weren't readily available here in the states
they were fairly unknown but you guys would import that stuff oh yeah so my
My introduction to Dragon Ball and anime just in general,
were through your video games.
And my parents wouldn't buy me a lot of stuff. I really had to,

(01:14:08):
like birthdays and Christmas, that was really about it.
And even then, if they didn't really know what it was, they had a hard time going to find it.
So most of the stuff that I got was Ninja Turtles because they knew what Ninja Turtles were.
So being able to play stuff like Hyperdimension or Ultimate Battle 22 or the GT game on Saturn or,

(01:14:33):
the various games you had on the PlayStation that you would either import or whatever.
That was my introduction to it. And then just kind of getting into Chrono Trigger,
and that's probably jumping the gun a little bit here.
And then, of course, like I said, when I went into the Cartoon Network,

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that was my experience with that
and as an outsider kind of just and this speaks to kind of his ubiquity,
and be able to you know bring in like a an audience that may be not familiar
familiar with anime or anything like that like he was able to in his art style and writing,
the the charms and quirks of the characters like how all these different you

(01:15:19):
know these different of personality that's kind of meshed with each other the
the depth of the villains was able to you know captivate a you know a young
and impressionable brent altmiller it's pretty incredible dude.
Like, my obsession, my, like, love for Dragon Ball Z,
you know, I, like, we basically figured out, you know, I don't even have an

(01:15:46):
answer for how this was discovered.
It was between my brother and his friends, but, like, literally found a way
that they could order and, like, have things shipped.
Like, I mean, I'm talking literal, like we're talking magazines,
like cutting the back out and like emailing them to an address with a check.

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Like, like we're talking crazy.
And like my, my brother and his friends figured it out.
And like, we had a Japanese version of hyper dimension, Dragon Ball Z hyper
dimension for super Nintendo, which like we had to buy a converter that you
put on top of your, your super Nintendo to play super family farm games.

(01:16:28):
And like so we had that we had Dragon Ball Z legends for PlayStation Which again
needed another converter to be able to play the Japanese games on which we had
and then we had Ultimate Battles 22,
Dragon Ball final bout which is the one that's like all GT stuff and then,

(01:16:48):
What is the last one I'm thinking of? God.
Maybe I was just thinking about also about 22, but like, like me,
like we were, we were obsessed and like any time we get our hands on anything,
any way that we could possibly get it.
Like we literally have like VSS VHS tapes of like a couple of the Dragon Ball

(01:17:10):
Z movies that were like, we had to get shipped, like shipped from Japan.
Some kid in Japan recorded a fricking like tape and then like a blank DB,
a blank VHS tape, send it in the mail to us.
And like, we had like, I had like a tape of movie.
I know I had movie 12, the one with Junimba and I'm pretty sure we also had

(01:17:36):
Cooler's Revenge and the one with Super Android 13.
Those are the ones I remember specifically. Typically they were like taped like back to back.
So like the tape would have one movie, then the next movie, the next movie.
So if you wanted to watch, you literally had to fast forward through,
but I never did. I just watched them all the way through every time.
But like, that's how bad obsessed we were as kids about Dragon Ball Z.

(01:18:01):
And like the idea, I mean, this was like, he was saying like the idea of the
internet and like going online to like find out information.
It was, you could like go online, line
but basically what you're looking at is like some other kid
who did the same thing made a website in geocities
that just talks about how much they love dragon ball z like you

(01:18:22):
were barely finding any information and it was so hard to find anything but
like my brother and his friends were just as obsessed with me as me so like
they were going through and like you know spending their money from like their
you know paper routes and stuff to like make money to have money to like like,
import Japanese games so we could play them on the PlayStation, like...

(01:18:46):
But the fact about... The fact that, like...
Like stuff like that there were lines to like have this stuff to just get dragon ball z stuff,
just tells how like how universal it
was to the point where like people were so obsessed
that they were creating these
channels to like to get other fans to be

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able to get access to this stuff like it's yeah
crazy to me to like and nowadays
with like the internet anything that happens anywhere where you
know it's not you're not going through a hundred steps
you're not sending a blank check to a stranger with no
insurance that anything's going to come of it to like get
stuff that you want like if you want to get something from

(01:19:28):
japan you can go on a website somewhere and find
it like someone has it you know there's a
you know a verified freaking amex or
american express or something sticker so you
know your money's not going to it down the drain you
can find a verified and like you
know secure way to find that stuff but like

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the time we're talking about like you like i said they were literally sending
blank checks sending checks to strangers hoping that that the thing was going
to come back and then it the mail wasn't as fast so like you're sending a check
to a stranger and then a month later something hopefully shows up like.
It was dude that's punk rock it's like

(01:20:12):
i know i'm serious like you know a
lot and i don't want to be like old man you know it's
a cloud whatever type stuff but like you know kids and
they don't know what punk rock really like means you know
that's that's like underground it's punk
rock dude that's it's word of mouth it's you
know you've you discover something and you know

(01:20:34):
like like with the geocities and all the
fan sites and stuff the message boards like the the
war just kind of spreads and you know
like if it wasn't for those people in the early in the early days like that
you know your brother and chris and you know like who's to say we wouldn't have
known about it at least not till later you know like it's it's it's punk rock

(01:20:58):
dude yeah and that's That's awesome. And it was beautiful.
And the coolest thing about it is I get to claim that OG fandom of Dragon Ball Z.
I get to claim that. And it's not as prestigious now.
But when Dragon Ball Z went from being a show that came on at 7 o'clock in the morning on Saturdays.

(01:21:27):
That only played like five like 15 episodes of dragon ball z on a loop for four
years to being like the most popular show that was on toonami and like kids would like literally,
rush home from school every day to like get
home to watch the episode or stuff or whatever like run

(01:21:47):
off the bus to like run in the house so they could not miss the
beginning of dragon ball z like i got to
and at that time period i got to be like i am
the og dragon ball z a dragon ball z fan
no one can question i am the
og you guys yeah you know i
was talking about dragon ball z before you guys had ever seen

(01:22:08):
it like and you know that
was my my little claim to fame as nerdy 13
year old aaron but like it was always it's
always been like a part of me like i've
always love Dragon Ball Z and like a lot of people you know have a mixed opinions
about it now but like I've always been a fan like I no one who knows me can

(01:22:30):
ever question if I was ever a fan of Dragon Ball Z like I'm not a poser I was
never doing it to be cool I love Dragon Ball Z,
way before it was cool right and I you know you can kind of throw me into that
category too probably yeah like yeah like.
From the from the not from the infancy and stuff but like

(01:22:53):
i'm part of that like word of mouth crowd or whatever so you
know i maybe i didn't do like all the little things and
stuff but like i was a part of it at least i felt like you
guys made me feel like i was a part of that yeah and it's it's
it's just like i remember like when
dragon ball z started taking off and everyone was kind

(01:23:13):
of getting into it and you know like toonami was
like they were you know they were bursting at the
seams with anything if they got had more dragon ball
z they were like oh man like again let
me explain like nowadays when something new is
coming out you hear about it because like someone
on the internet is like oh hey they just released the

(01:23:34):
next picture from from deadpool versus wolverine
this is what this person looks like in the movie like you got all of
these little teasers and you knew exactly when something was
going to drop and as soon as the studio approves the
next season of whatever show that you like someone's on the
internet talking about it and like back then it
was like you found out when the new episode started playing like.

(01:23:54):
Like tom would get on there and be like
hey we got new episode of dragon ball z coming out next week you better be
on at home to watch them or you're just gonna miss them yep and
yep like and that was how that's how it went like you
just had to like you had to be watching your
tv see the promotion that
played in the commercial break about the new episodes

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when they started and if you miss it
the new episodes would just start and you would just not
know that there were new episodes out so you that was like that's why
my tv was such a big thing in our generation and it's
less of a big thing in your guys's generation and the younger generation because
like yeah that was how you found out like you had to be watching cartoon network

(01:24:37):
or someone that you knew had to be watching it to see the commercial about the
new episodes because if you didn't see it you just didn't know they were playing new episodes.
Right yeah dude Toonami was a godsend for that stuff too,
being able to like, especially for somebody like me, they didn't really have
the needs to be able to import that stuff, you know, himself being able to just

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watch this. And it was appointment television.
Again, I feel like you were saying, dude, like kids, they won't understand that
because everything is just so readily available.
Like I can get on crunchy roll right now and, and, you know,
pick literally whatever I want. Right.
You know, and same thing goes for like the wwe network and stuff you know with

(01:25:22):
i was talking about like importing you know tapes of christian erica and all
that stuff i can just get on wwe network and just watch whatever i want or you
know youtube or what have you you know just the the cartoon network was such a big and vital,
piece of that anime puzzle especially dragon ball like
getting that into the into the hands so to speak of

(01:25:45):
of these new and like hungry fans you know
before that dude cartoon network was like it
was hannah barbara stuff you know but you
know the toodami you know that block of anime that they have with
you know gundam and sailor moon and dragon ball z and the other one is to teach
you muya yep like it i mean it transformed a lot of people into that would maybe

(01:26:09):
not otherwise have been anime fans and do anime fans yeah and it's one of those things where.
There it's one of those things i feel like will never like
it'll never be replicated that that
toonami era will never there'll never be
another situation that's like it just because the way

(01:26:30):
that we you know receive our information our media is
so different now but like literally what toonami
was doing and this is a sidebar on the
territory on the top but literally what to nami was doing was they
would take like like super
popular animes and they would

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you know whatever english translation they could get their hands on
they would just play them and like they drew
everybody in with the with dragon ball
z and gundam wing and stuff and they were like this is
anime so if you like this stuff toonami we're
gonna be playing it all the time whenever to know
wherever it's whenever toonami airs you're gonna be

(01:27:12):
seeing stuff like this so then you know dragon ball
z and sailor moon and you know gundam wing
was what drew people in but then they would pick these little random popular
in japan but less known animes and then they chuck them in between those shows
and they'd be like oh well this is cowboy bebop what do you guys think about
this this is outlaw star. What do you guys think about this? And then like.

(01:27:36):
They were like subtly turning an entire generation
of kids in the anime fans by like
constantly pumping these little
shows in between the big ones and like i
mean there are people who will tell you like oh
my first 10 animes were sailor moon gundam wing.
Dragon ball z pokemon you know like cowboy bebop.

(01:27:58):
Outlaw star big oh like like and that
list is just like a list of shows that played on toonami in order
yeah like in
chronological order too right and like
i mean i i i toonami is
still around i think but like the amount of influence
that that viewing block had on like

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a generation our generation of like people who
grew into adults can't be understated because they
they were playing that perfectly just like every
every like two or three months when
you got tired of that like 12 episode or
26 episode show running they would just
flip it out for a different one but they kept the ones

(01:28:41):
that ran for hundreds of episodes right in
the middle so like if you got on to watch dragon
ball z you started at dragon ball z at at
four o'clock or whatever five o'clock whatever but if
you wanted to get all the way to gundam wing or
whatever was was playing next you had to sit through whatever new anime popped
up and then if you started to like that new anime then

(01:29:02):
you got to watch again to go back around to get
the rest of the episode so you can see the whole thing and by the time that
happens one of the other animes rotated out and like the guys who set that up
set it up absolutely perfectly yep to nami so i gotta to tell a little story
about the about chrono trigger please like so that was my that was.

(01:29:25):
My personal first thing that i owned of like
your koreana type stuff you know because
everything else i experienced at your house and two
things that you guys have done so after my
you know after my parents had divorced you'll probably
remember i lived with my dad more than i did my mom and my
dad like when my

(01:29:47):
when my parents were married wasn't always the
closest with us like he was very kind of distant like he
would you know he would work all day and then he'd come home and he was almost
kind of miserable when they when they got divorced like my dad like really tried
to and you you you'll remember this too like he involved himself more you know

(01:30:09):
he He got to know you guys.
He involved himself especially in a lot of things that i was
enjoying you know from the like the like
the video game aspect of it movies my friends
all kinds of different stuff and i'll always remember going to remember service
merchandise oh yeah we went to service merchandise and got they they had phone

(01:30:34):
a trigger there on clearance and my dad didn't really like He wouldn't buy a lot of games.
He bought some, but he didn't buy a lot.
I don't remember how much it was,
but I remember it being on their front counter or something like that.
It was one of those cardboard sort of displays.

(01:30:59):
Clearance, this section only, or whatever. I remember picking that up.
We were there, and he was like, Oh, this looks cool. and i i think i'd remembered
playing it at your house or something like that i'm like yeah this this game's
awesome i mean i i saw the square the soft like the square soft logo and you
know back when we were kids and
stuff that meant that that was the seal of excellence yes yes absolutely,

(01:31:20):
you could go no wrong with it if you bought a square square soft game like you
were set for the whole freaking summer or or that whole year until you got your
next game or whatever ever and my dad bought me chrono trigger and dude i was
obsessed with it i love that game so much,
i'm actually and that kind of like ties into you know game dads as a podcast

(01:31:41):
and stuff the whole what are you playing right now i'm playing chrono trigger my steam deck.
And it's it's amazing and it's it's no pun intended it's timeless it's got that same like,
we're talking about the the humor of of toriana you know like the johnny character

(01:32:01):
dude is like that's yeah that's that's that's totally but you know we're talking
about like you know his obsession with technology and stuff you got like robo
kind of you know right next to uh,
i was giving her a name of shai shai the king man chick oh shall yeah yeah i

(01:32:21):
can never like pronounce her name right.
But you have like Robo next to her, next to Frog, next to Chrono.
It's just, it's just really cool.
But that was my, my personal first, like thing that I owned that had anything
to do with Kira, Kira Coriano. Yeah.
I, my, like, my first, like, my favorite part of my Dragon Ball Z story and

(01:32:47):
the reason, like, I love it so much is my first Dragon Ball experience is literally Dragon Ball.
And I literally watched it, like, it came on right before school in the morning
and I would stay up to watch it and I would get up early to watch it.
And like i remember that like i was watching it and i was like james my my friend

(01:33:13):
at the time like this is i think it was honestly before we met but i was like
james look dude there's a show,
that's on and it's called dragon ball and it's so awesome and you need to watch
it and like like i i don't know how else to explain to you but it's like awesome
and you have to watch the show and And he was like.
Nah, I usually watch Garfield in the morning.

(01:33:35):
And I'm like, F Garfield, you need to watch this show.
And like, F Garfield, like, like he tells me in like, like he never does. He doesn't.
And I'm like, okay, man, I, I don't know what to tell you what I'm feeling.
I'm literally, this is like maybe second grade.

(01:33:56):
It might be, it might be third grade, but it might be second grade.
And I'm like I don't know how to express to you how I feel about what this show
is but like you need to watch it and he never did and then.
I think it was maybe fourth grade or fifth grade when Dragon Ball Z came out.
And again, I just, I get to like, I watched the first season of Dragon Ball

(01:34:18):
cause that's all they ever had.
So it's literally just Goku to like the peel off gang. And then Goku turns into
a monkey at the end and then it starts back over.
So like, then I, like I stumble upon Dragon Ball Z randomly.
I get up in the morning, I'm watching TV and like it's Goku,

(01:34:38):
Goku and Piccolo versus Raditz and like in the middle of the fight.
And I'm like, this is the coolest goddamn thing I have ever seen.
And I am literally in my living room screaming at my brother and my friend Ryan,
who was staying the night to get up and come watch this.
And they're like, I don't want to. I'm not getting up. I don't know.

(01:35:01):
I'm like, you need to come see this.
I need someone else to see what I'm seeing right now. i
don't like get in here and like they literally
don't the episode ends and i'm just like sitting
there and i'm like i don't even know how to explain to
you what i just saw but i'm pretty sure it's goku from dragon ball as an adult

(01:35:21):
i don't know how to explain to you what i'm watching but that's what's happening
right now and they're like what are you talking about i'm like you remember
dragon ball that show that i showed you that used to come on in the mornings i am pretty
sure that this is him as an adult.
I don't know what that means, but that's what's happening.
And like, like my brother is finally like, Oh, Oh.

(01:35:45):
That's actually sounds awesome. And I'm like, and like, it's the first time
I had ever seen like a fight that looks like a Dragon Ball Z fight.
Like for you guys, like younger kids, that stuff is every day.
It's, it's mundane to you at this point. But like, to me at like seven,
I was like, I don't even know how to explain what I just watched.
Like, this is like crazy.

(01:36:08):
Like they're flying and like punching so fast.
You can't see it. and like every screen's all
over the place and they're firing beams at
each other and everything's blowing up and they're like what are you
talking about i'm like i don't know how to explain this to you i'm seven
but that's what i just saw and like my brother like i don't know it finally

(01:36:29):
clicked in his head that like you saw something awesome and i'm like i saw the
most awesome thing i've ever seen like i don't like i just like now that i'm
thinking about it like to try and like Like,
I don't even know what I could have possibly said to them to explain what I was looking at.
Because, like, literally at that point, I was seven.

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Like, the most, the biggest, the best reference I could have given them is,
like, it looked like Street Fighter characters, but, like, way past that.
Like, I feel bad for seven-year-old Aaron trying to explain to somebody else
what Dragon Ball Z looks like without any context.

(01:37:13):
So i'm getting the i'm getting the old wrap it up over here from,
so from your wife oh yeah probably
okay don't apparently you
need a shower my friend i do i got a shower before we go pick up dom i just
i took my braids out so like my hair is in like like you've been stuck in the

(01:37:34):
same position for you know four weeks mode where just it looks crazy until i
wash it and condition it and stuff so yeah i do need to take a shower okay.
I am going to call this part one of our Dragon Ball Z conversation.
Is that cool? Yeah, I wanted, I, yeah, that's very cool. I actually,
I kind of want to involve Drake in the next one if we do it.

(01:37:55):
Yeah, sure. Absolutely.
Because dude, his, he has a completely different. Oh my God.
Dragon Ball. I, yeah. Yeah.
I want, yeah, that we a hundred percent. We'll do another episode.
We'll get Drake on here. Cause I, the idea of the
story I just told in comparison to what the story Drake will
tell about his first time watching the experience in dragon ball z

(01:38:16):
is it's gonna be so different it absolutely
let's let's do that yeah and i
won't spoil anything on that but like his his
take is wild i wild
i i'm that i'm very excited like yeah
that sounds awesome okay so let's do

(01:38:37):
let's let's keep our format and not get all
loosey-goosey with it let's do a very quick
what you're playing a very quick positives and then
we'll go so what am i playing just currently
on steam deck i've got chrono trigger and
castlevania lords of shadow on playstation
i am kind of waiting for visions of

(01:38:58):
mana so i've been clearing up my backlog a little bit i have
beaten a few games the the
psp and ps2 games on on ps5
that's kind of what i'm playing into most of ratchet clake size
matters right now and i just picked up wwe
2k24 in this summer sale so i'm
actually i've been playing that the entire time we've been talking so

(01:39:20):
wrestling games on the or that's my
kryptonite oh and final fantasy 8 i guess i am playing a lot yeah that's that
is a pretty hefty list mine is okay since the last time we talked i finally.
Beat marvel ultimate alliance three and put it down and I'm never going to play
it again. I kind of hate it.

(01:39:43):
We can talk about that next time, but I kind of hate it. I'm playing Suicide
Squad, Kill the Justice League, which I want to talk about that next time too,
because I have some opinions that are counter to the narrative that I've heard and been sold.
I'm playing Disguise 5, which I have played tons of.

(01:40:04):
My characters are like super high level, but not high level to finish the final boss.
So I am going to be kind of intermittently grinding that until I get my characters
high enough level to finish the final secret boss. And then I'm going to be done with that game.
I'm playing Pokemon Shield.
I just started a new game. I have been. I have been. I know.

(01:40:29):
I know that. I know that it's not the greatest Pokemon entry,
but I have been itching for some Pokemon for so long.
It just it creeps up on me and then i'm playing another game so then i'm like and then it fades,
and then it creeps up again and then it fades and it creeps up again it fades
well it crept up at the perfect time i'm playing pokemon and i'm going to finish

(01:40:52):
pokemon shield i'm going to get to the end pokemon and we don't have to get
into it i would actually like to talk about a little bit on the next episode
but pokemon is is like herpes.
I i can totally agree with that because it's
it's pokemon pokemon is forever you can't
get rid of it you can't cure it you can only suppress it yep 100 because that

(01:41:14):
is exactly what i'm going through right now and my the last game leads into
my positive for this episode so i'm gonna say the last game is super mario world.
And that leads directly into my positive because i am i decided i just kind

(01:41:35):
of like i had the urge and then dom my wife has given me a little look if she's walking in here.
I had the urge and then to play
it and i you know turned it on and dom was like oh
you're gonna play mario and i'm like yeah i'm gonna play mario she
was like can i play and i was like you absolutely can play
so like we got her a controller

(01:41:57):
and we were sitting down on the floor
and literally she is learning her
first video game for real for real like she's learning super mario world and
that's awesome walking she's you know walking and jumping over goombas and she's
she's getting the timing down like first that it's literally the first level

(01:42:18):
it's a mario world and she's just walking and those turtles,
the first set of five turtles up here that you can pop with and get an extra
one up and she's made it past them.
She's able to get the Yoshi. She's able to keep moving past the Yoshi and last
time I was playing with her,
she was having issues with the charging chuck but she has made it past the charging

(01:42:40):
chuck at this point and she's made it to the checkpoint and now she's trying
to get through the last bit of that first level.
She's almost beaten completely by herself the first level of Super Mario World.
That's awesome. That makes me a very proud uncle.
It's awesome and like...
Think it's really good for her because she has this like like she's

(01:43:03):
been running into this thing where she kind of like gives up on things
too fast and like super mario world is
like the idea of her being able to play video games with us is so enticing that
she doesn't want to give up i think it's going to like help her in other ways
just because you know she sees what you can get if you what you can accomplish

(01:43:24):
if you just don't give up and you keep trying so it's been and it's It's just like,
it's adorable to see her sitting there,
like super focused on the screen playing some super Mario world.
And like, I'm just, that's my positive is just the, the, the adorable image
of my daughter playing her first super Mario world level. Yeah.

(01:43:45):
I dig it, man. My positive. I got, I got two brief ones. I've been having a
really good time collecting with my son.
Again, I said collecting.
I'm more of an enthusiast. I'm not just buying bulk stuff, but being able to
do this with my son, he bought the N64 all on his own.

(01:44:06):
He was really excited to share that stuff with me, and I'm excited to share my stuff with him.
That's been just great. My other positive is that I'm very thankful for our whole group of friends.
Yesterday was a lot of fun and i'm glad we were able to celebrate your birthday.

(01:44:29):
And i i i put i put a lot of thought into my into my questions.
So I had fun doing that.
So I'm very honored that Andrea texted me about that and gave me the opportunity to do that for you guys.
I'm also so excited because I could feel it. I could feel it in your tone.

(01:44:54):
You totally thought I was not going to have an answer for what's your favorite cereal box?
No. Well, I knew you would because you're very good at thinking on your toes.
My uh my favorite one
was you can't read yeah yeah
touche i i i

(01:45:14):
love that one i had a different setup to it originally
but like i think the i especially
like like your neighbors even i
can't remember what sarah okay like
they they don't know me very well yet but i
think that based off of the quite

(01:45:35):
chris knows me pretty well yeah that was definitely like that was brett humor
and like i don't know man it just it turned out better when i thought it would
yeah you you definitely got both of them but yeah i was i was very pleased with the way it
turned out so yeah thank you man i i appreciated it i it really it was really nice to like,

(01:46:03):
because like it's one of those things that you don't actually ever get an opportunity
to do to just be like here's a random reason that i get to explain this story
about my babies and why i love them why they're both so awesome like i don't
you don't get those opportunities all the time so So it was really nice.
I was really thrilled with being able to sum up and like very,

(01:46:24):
very kind of not quick with.
But like within 11 questions, you know, half of them were jokes,
but be able to kind of take it, like take us on a chronological order of like
a timeline of, of where Aaron comes from.
And I like that. Yeah. That was, that was my, that was my thought process behind it.

(01:46:48):
Yeah, it was, it was, it was awesome. I really appreciate it.
And just to kind of like keep everybody else out
there updated aaron is a under role on the
toilet paper and everybody should just if they
have a chance to write in on the youtube comments and stuff tell them why
he's wrong tell me tell
me exactly why i'm wrong and then look up the the

(01:47:09):
one industry that causes the most deforestation in
all of history and then why you should
not care about what the toilet paper industry tells you
to do you're deflecting you're deflecting
you're you're bringing up things that they they definitely
matter but they don't matter nearly as much as where you place your toilet paper

(01:47:30):
roll it's kind of like it's kind of like you and your mario kart stuff how you
challenge me and all that stuff but you're like oh you don't like playing motion
control but yet like i still smoke you guys yeah so you're you know it's all smoke.
And mirrors sir yeah also if you play
motion controls please go on to the

(01:47:50):
comments and tell brett how much of uh
wussy he is for not using motion controls and then
i will also accept your challenge i will pay for nintendo online so
i can smoke your ass bring it on anytime
any day of the week all right well i just got a second wrap it up signal so
i am going to call this one here thank you guys all for listening Wiminy Wham

(01:48:15):
Wham Wazzle Tom Largemire sent ya peace bye.

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