Jaws Ep. 09 - Crocodile / Crocodile Fury

This week has two films that take using footage from other films to a whole other level.

First up is CROCODILE (1980) a Thai film about one men’s quest for revenge on the crocodile that killed their families. Directed by Sampote Sands.

Then we lose our minds over CROCODILE FURY (1988) a Hong Kong film about a witch and her army of jiāngshī (also known as Chinese hopping vampires) joining forces with the master of the seas and his man-eating shape-shifting crocodiles to rule the world.

Episode Transcript

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Hello and welcome to Get Me Another, a podcast where we explore those movies that followedin the wake of blockbuster hits and attempted to replicate their success.

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My name is Chris Ayanokone, and with me are my co-hosts Rob Lemorgas.
Crystal, crystal, magic crystal, I call you!
come from the earth.
boy.
Indeed.
And Justin Beam.

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I'll do that for the next 90 minutes so you can feel like you're watching Crocodile Again.
It's true.
There's a lot of ambulance sounds.
my God.
It's amazing.
So last week on Get Me Another, we discussed two Italian made shark movies, one of whichborrowed
quite a bit of its footage from the others, as well as a few other shark movies, not theleast of which being Jaws.

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But if you thought that was as far as recycled footage could possibly go, oh boy, are youin for a wild ride today.
But before that, Justin, I wanted to ask you, you have an exciting new project you've beenworking on, and I wanna ask you, can you tell us a little bit about Phantom Lightkeeper?
Yeah, it's a musical project that...

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It really kind of came up out of nowhere when a buddy of mine gave me a good, well, I gota guitar from him and a little practice amp and my background is drumming for sure.
I've, I did guitar in like this really shitty noise band in high school for a few weeksjust to do a couple gigs, but that was really it.
And uh anyway, guitar hasn't ever really been a focus of mine, but I got this guitar fromthis guy and started noodling around on it and just started recording things.

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And it became this real atmospheric kind of haunting surf music.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Of all things.
One of the last bands that I was in was a surf rockabilly thing.
And I guess that must still be marinating in brain or something.
But I started recording and then I started, I shared a couple of them with some friends,one of which has a show on Iowa Public Radio, a music show.

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And he was really excited about it.
Like, man, this is,
This is not, this is very unusual.
would you be cool if I played this on the air?
And I was like, my gosh.
So I only had two songs recorded at the point where he started playing them on his show.
And over the course of a few weeks, he did play both.
And I just kept plugging away at this and it was all at the end of the workday, you knowhow sometimes your brain is still buzzing.

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So like my son would be in bed and I just put on the headphones, plug into the amp andstart recording and.
ended up making a whole album and I just finished it not too long ago.
I haven't promoted it very much yet because I was really trying to figure out themarketing and the look and all that kind of stuff before I did that.

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But I just actually yesterday got things solidified with Wax Work Records.
Really?
Who are doing the pressing on it and it's going to be out October 15th.
that's fantastic.
And I'll probably there'll be a few there'll be a short
run CD thing too, but the, yeah, that coming out in October, uh finished the layout forthe jacket and everything.

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And it's really turned out to be really cool.
And it's all happened so fast.
I mean, we're talking about maybe a month and a half.
wow.
From the moment I plugged in a guitar until today, the day after I got this thing set upfor release.
so oh it's wild, it has opened something up in me.

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I mean,
Musically, I haven't done a lot for a long time.
I've been, cause I've been, you know how we get bogged down with work and Rob, can attestto this too, that you haven't probably picked up your sax in forever.
you know, life and family and work just sort of gets in front of that sometimes.
And most recently I was playing drums briefly with this fifties review kind of band thatdidn't end up working out just because of people's schedules.

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But that got me thinking maybe on this front a little bit.
And so.
That's Phantom Lightkeeper, is, and I, on this album, I play everything, but I'm lookingto put a band together so we can do some digging and stuff too.
I love the title.
I, uh, the idea of sort of the darker surf music is real interesting.
Yeah.
The name is, it's a reference to the, okay.

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There's this YouTube channel.
I can't remember the name of it.
I'll have to put it in the notes or something.
This guy does an amazing job telling stories.
from especially the Great Lakes and the history of certain ships and disasters andlighthouses and stuff.
And I've really become addicted to that, especially at night.
It's very calm, it's very soothing.
It's all this old time footage and everything.

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one of the things was on this tragedy called the Smalls Lighthouse Tragedy.
And I won't bore you with the details on that, but it was this really horrifying incidentwhere these two guys were completely isolated from the world and one of them ended up
dying.
boy.
And all that the other guy had to go through because no one came to see them.
Like they didn't have, they were in the middle of the ocean in this lighthouse on stiltsand this horrific thing played out.

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And that got me thinking about how, and over the course of watching these videos, howthese people who would live in lighthouses back when they had to tend to the light, keep
the torch and the fuel, like the oil in it and all that stuff.
They would go and live in these.
in possibly isolated conditions.
yeah.
Dealing with complete exposure to the elements.

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And I always thought, what a fascinating thing to choose to do.
Yes.
To go and just be that.
And so also just about every lighthouse has some kind of story behind it of it beinghaunted too.
I was seeing on shows like Ghost Hunters and whatnot, there's always like, there's theghost of whoever is here.
Right.
And so I combine the two and

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Phantom Lightkeeper is a reference to that and then visually it kind of the visualelements take a cue from that with the album packaging and all that as well.
And it's just this weird thing that completely flipped a switch inside of me creativelymusically, which has been amazing.
And I'm already working on stuff for the next album.
That's fantastic.

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And people can listen to some of the first tracks now on Spotify.
Is that not correct?
Yeah, on Spotify and Bandcamp, think I have four tracks up and there are earlier versionsof what will be on the album.
The album has 14 songs total.
And uh so yeah, there are some songs out there so you can get a little taste of it fornow.

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Well, that's terrific.
And hopefully people will check it out.
That's fantastic.
So.
We'll turn our attention to the matter at hand today, which is two films from Asia, bothabout crocodiles and both with significant amounts of footage from other films.

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So first up from Thailand, this is 1980s Crocodile.
You're on the rampage.
sight.
living thing.
For when nature rebels against human forces, defying her laws, she strikes back withunbelievable fury.

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you

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to that beast?
it work?
Crocodile, its massive size, its immense razor sharp teeth, its lashing tail, combine tomake it the most terrifying killing machine ever created.
Let your imagination run wild to the most terrifying creature on earth and then go beyondit to

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So guys, a lot of times when we're talking about movies, particularly from a perspectiveof screenwriting, we talk about rules.
What works, what doesn't, the guidelines that guide those choices.
But when you boil it down, really, the only rule is to be interesting.
And many filmmakers, both intentionally and unintentionally, have made very interestingfilms that break or ignore conventional screenwriting rules.

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But...
The reason those rules exist is because they work most of the time.
And what we have with both of the movies today are movies that sort of disregardconventional wisdom.
you know, one maybe is less interesting than the other, even though they are both kind ofnot really sticking to what, you know, none of them are operating off of Sid Field, let's

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put it that way.
No, ah they probably remind me more of uh like Brian Geisen and William S.
Burroughs cut up technique.
It's in that they're just taking elements from all sorts of other things and mashing themtogether and seeing what can happen.
Although what's interesting is they're doing it not to a artistic end, but probably tryingto do that to a cheap shortcut to a commercial.

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film.
Right.
And that's rather interesting.
I think that one of them, so the first movie we're talking about here, Crocodile, this outof the two of these, seems like one of the films was made with a vision and the other
film, Crocodile, was made out of pieces.

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It's almost like they took a story or elements of a few stories, threw them on the floorand then just kept shuffling them around because in this film, time
has no relevance.
None.
No, absolutely not.
And it is, it hurts your head to watch this and to try to make sense of what is happeningin this.

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And it's not even to an entertaining end.
It has so little to offer crocodile that as you're watching it, you're just spending thewhole time mystified and trying to figure it out.
Well, that's the real problem is ultimately
One of these films, they're both very unusual.
They're both have a lot of, they are both very unconventional.

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Let's say that.
But one of them is just kind of boring and tough to get through.
And the other one is a lot of things.
It's a lot of things, but boring isn't one of them.
No, it's exhausting because of how much is constantly happening.
my God.
And we'll get there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So one of the reasons that maybe, Crocodile, it's interesting.

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Crocodile has no credited screenwriters, at least that I could find.
And I really looked, but it doesn't have anybody listed as a writer.
The credited director is Sampote Sands, a Thai filmmaker who worked with the Japaneseproduction company, Suburaya Productions, the owners of the Ultraman series, and then was

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involved in a legal battle with them that went on for years.
Crocodile was produced by Robert Chan.
with American producer Dick Randall handling the international release and re-editingparts of the film for that effort.
And there's at least two different cuts that played in the United States, one with morenudity, one with less, and still different versions playing in other international markets

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as well.
Now, what makes all of this more confusing is that Crocodile may be the same movie as aKorean film entitled
Crocodile Fangs.
That movie was directed by a man named Lee Won-se and was apparently released in SouthKorea in 1978.

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It appears to have the same plot, star the same actors, it even has the same poster art,even though the movies are listed separately on IMDb.
So what seems likely is that this Korean film, which was shot in Thailand, was thenre-edited with additional scenes and special effects
shot by some Poday Sans and then further edited by Dick Randall for international markets,which may go some way towards explaining why it feels so disjointed.

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That said, the version we watch opens with one of the coolest logos I've ever seen forCobra Media.
And it's a Cobra.
Oh, it's about to strike.
It looks like the inspiration for the Cobra Kai Dojo logo.
And it is awesome.
Little did I know that it would be possibly the best thing about the movie.

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Truth.
Wait, Chris, you don't enjoy a single extreme close up of a crocodile eye opening over andover again.
Is that like 10 % of the movie is that shot?
The crocodile.
I just did a search in my notes for this film and I noted the eye appearing at least 26times.

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that's a good shot.
It's cool.
All right.
I mean, there's a couple of different eye shots that they keep cutting to, but that it'sit's so recurrent.
Yeah.
In this thing.
And sometimes it's all you get of the crocodile for a while.
Oh, Like it's just this crocodile.
Yeah, it's it's it's.
And by the way, the crocodile's eyes.

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aren't just going to stay that there's like three different versions of the crocodile'seyes throughout this film.
oh And one of which is absolutely perplexing and only shows up twice.
So we have this, this music during the opening credits, which I don't know about you guys,but it sounded very similar to the music from Friday the 13th.

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it's, it's not like they didn't lift the music from Friday the 13th, but they seemedreally inspired by it.
Yeah, I don't remember that many uh ambulance sirens though in Manfredini's work.
There's there is so much ambulance, Cyrus, like it is replete in this movie.

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God.
But then we have a voiceover and that voiceover is really something.
From the very beginning, man has been trying to destroy nature.
Perhaps one day he may succeed.
But then again, on that day, nature may rebel.
And this could happen.
From the beginning.

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Man has been trying to destroy nature.
All I could think of was the Mr.
Burns line from The Simpsons.
For the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun.
Like, is that true?
is that?
What I was thinking when I heard this was I'm like, man, I really hope that someone did abunch of miniature work and that we're going to get to see it destroyed.

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That's what that's what I was hoping.
I love this movie paid off.
whatever else this movie has, it has got a ton of miniature work and I love it.
Like I really do.
Like the, the miniature village that we're going to see a little bit, I think is cool.
Like, yes, I know it's a miniature, but that doesn't bother me at all.
Yeah.
It's like beyond the door three where have you guys, so beyond the door three is thismovie set on a train and for a pretty good portion of the movie, the train is actually

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like an HO scale model train that they cutting to and among
a clearly HO layout kind of situation with these little fake plastic trees and stuff.
It's absolutely hilarious.
But here it's put to much better use, I would say, the miniatures.
Yeah.
So we go from the opening narration, this very kind of bold opening narration, whichpromises a movie that we're not going to get.

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ah
And then we cut to this massive storm that's laying waste to trees and houses and peopleand there's some very scary looking clouds and an upside down water spout.
There's some crocodiles here and there.
Honestly, it looks like someone opened the Ark of the Covenant.
That's the vibe.
Yeah, I mean, I this very beginning, I thought I was going to get a different movie that Imight like, because you said you've got the thunder and lightning, things are kind of

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weirdly blowing apart in the storm.
Right.
And it almost felt like the hammer horror version of a Jaws movie.
It's like the beginning.
That is not what winds up happening for the rest of the movie.
But uh for like a minute or two, I was hopeful.
It's funny you should say that because all of this footage was originally shot for anothermovie from Sands production company called Land of Grief.

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This is all from another movie.
that makes all the sense in the world.
It's just, it's like, it's such a hard transition from this storm thing happening to wecut to late 70s Bangkok and a kickin' disco soundtrack.
Heavy disco.
Oh my goodness, yeah.

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The disco, hey, 70s Bangkok was happening.
So we meet two characters who appear to be our protagonists, Angela and Linda.
They are two women, are both involved with doctors.
Angela is married to Tony and has a daughter and Linda is engaged to John.
And they arrive in the movie pulling up in this convertible with their luggage justprecariously perched on the back deck.

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yeah, That was probably the most anxiety that I experienced in watching this movie otherthan just the overall experience of this movie.
was looking at that luggage and thinking how far did they travel and how did that stay upthere?
Magical.
Yeah.
Where are they coming from?
Because it seems like they're going to Angela's house.

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like, it's, now, first of all, I will say this house, I love this house.
It is decorated with maximum 70s style.
Guys, it's got one of those spherical chairs.
I've always wanted one.
ever since like the number two sits in in the prisoner.
It's honestly, I want that chair.

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They never sit in it, but it's there and I love it.
Well, and they also have the, I don't think I've ever seen so many beaded curtains.
Yes, yeah.
No, it's really something.
It's extraordinary.
And there's just things here, there's things in this opening I don't understand.
Like Linda comes into the room and there's like a framed picture of herself.

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And she cuddles with it.
Which she hugs.
Yeah.
was like, that's, that's before she goes and takes a shower.
And next to it was this weird taxidermied frog, you know, odd.
I'm like, what is that a totem for?
Things I just don't understand.
Yeah.
I do like the wallpaper that ends up happening there.
There's, uh, there's several scenes where people are disrobing and that.

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I'm like, wow, that is actually very cool.
I would love to have a wall in my house that's got that tree wallpaper on it.
I genuinely love the house itself.
Like it's just, it is 70s cool and I'm here for it.
And so Angela, who is married to Tony, she's upset that Tony spends so much time workingas a doctor.

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She is really kind of, this is her thing and she gives him a hard time about it.
We see him working at the hospital and, uh you know, that seems to be a big thing for her.
But then all four hanging out by the pool and, you know, one night they're having somedrinks and they're talking about the hurricane, which we saw in the opening and how it

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just missed them.
And then someone says casually, do you think there's any truth to the rumor it was causedby that atomic explosion?
What?
And no one reacts to those words at all.
As you said, it is so casual as if you were talking about any old hurricane.
Yeah, atomic explosion.

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Yeah, it's just, it's no, like atomic explosion and the lie is, well, I guess anything'spossible.
Not really.
First of all, I don't think that's how hurricanes work.
But what concerns me is not the speculation about the hurricane.
It's the blase way they talk about that atomic explosion.
Like there seems to be no questioning.

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Oh, is that like there is, there was an atomic explosion.
It's, did it cause a hurricane?
But like.
I feel like that's what you lead with is, I heard there was an atomic explosion nearby.
Oh shit, you know, what now?
It is also an odd thing to leave unexplained.
feels like, and just to, you know, it is probably my guess is they are taking elementsfrom Godzilla, right?

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And they are, but all you need to do is say the atomic test site.
I wonder if this is a translation issue in the uh dubbing.
Because obviously all of this movie is dubbed.
Yes, yes.
The other thing is these doctors are kind of jerks.
Yeah.

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They're not great.
They're not great.
These are the least warm wanting to help people doctors ever, which is a thing.
I'm not saying that it can't be.
But at this point in time, if you were going to, as you had mentioned earlier, who isgoing to be my hero for this movie, I probably wouldn't have picked who it is.

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No, no, yeah, I thought that they were centering around the two ladies.
In particular, for some reason I thought Linda was somehow was gonna, I'm like, that'sreal interesting.
But what's gonna happen is not gonna be what we expect.
So they all decide to go to Pattai for the weekend.
That's a very nice resort hotel on the beach.

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I thought it looked really cool, like it was very modern.
And they...
they are gonna go to Pattai.
And uh there's a bit where Tony is called away to the hospital, I should mention this, andJohn is very quick to volunteer to go with them.
Like he's looking to get away from, like, you know, do you really want to marry this lady?

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Because you are, seem to be looking to get away from her.
But I thought that was gonna figure into the plot, but not really.
So after that, we're treated to a shot, the most ducks I've ever seen.
in a single sequence of film.
It is an absolutely endless parade of ducks and relentless quacking.

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And some of those ducks are being watched by a crocodile.
This is where we get some of the eyes of the crocodile here.
Yeah.
It's like they needed a feature running time.
So hey, why not have like a good 60 seconds, like maybe close to 90 of ducks.
That's a lot of time.
It doesn't sound like a lot of time when you say it, but it's really a lot of time for amovie.

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And the fact that they spent so much time on the docks and so little time on some thingsthat we're about to get is also perplexing to say the least.
Yeah, so there's a weird moment where Tony is getting his daughter ready for bed and sheasks her new bathing suit, because they're going to go on this vacation.

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Rather than tucking her in, he helps her get undressed.
It's very strange.
I'm not saying the movie's trying to be pervy, but it was just an odd choice.
Why not just tuck her under the covers and have a little conversation with her dad, justto establish that her dad cares about his daughter?
Well, it's not just getting her undressed and getting her...
into bed or something, he gets her topless in her underwear, and then he sits and liketouches her and smiles at her and like rubs her arm.

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And then they hold on this shot of him like looking into, gazing into her eyes with thissmile of just love on his face that you don't see him give his wife at any point in the
movie.
Not at all.
It is a very, very strange note.
And they go on for a while on this naked child and her dad fondling her.
So Chris, I do think there's something more to that.

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Maybe there is.
I'm trying to look on the not so dark side of things.
uh Well, what's going to happen, it may not all amount to much.
they all head to this luxury hotel, which looks fantastic.
They do some boating.
They're on a boat, which looks huge.
And this brings something back from our Fatal Attraction series, rich people boating.

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It's like, you want to show rich people at leisure?
Boating.
They live on the water.
think much like the rest of Earth, it's becoming, ah if this series has taught us anythingalso, it's that you are either extremely rich or extremely poor if you are on the water.
Yeah, honestly, there may be some truth to that.
That's uh a, but at one point, you know, they're at the hotel, they're on the beach, itall looks great.

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That hotel looks fantastic.
But at one point, we have a moment where Linda seems to be pulled under, but it's a fakeout guys.
It's just John screwing around.
But more troubling, and I guess it's just boating regulations were not the same in 70sThailand.
A speed, but like they're in the
the water, not far from the shore.

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Like they're just on the beach, you know, and close by, but like a little bit out.
you'd be, you know, you're swimming and then a speedboat races by really close to thedaughter in her inner tube.
And I was just like, Holy shit.
This is the most genuinely frightening moment in this movie.
Yeah.
That happened a couple of times in that.
And I was, I mean, I was like, wow, what, what in the world is happening?

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And the, uh, well, and there's also this weird moment during that boat stuff where
One of the girls, well, the guy, I can't tell who, I don't remember who's who, but there'sa guy applying suntan lotion to one of the girls and she's like, Oh, that hurts.
And he stops and then he's like, well, do you want more?
And she goes, yes, please.
And he returns to putting it.

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What, why would that hurt?
What?
Unless you're already sunburned.
Yeah.
Well, I guess.
If you're doing it too late, it's, uh, it's, it's, it's weird.
It's so weird.
And this is over more of that, like pounding disco music.
Yeah, as that whole thing's going on and in the midst of this to the point of this beingfragmented Rob, you mentioned this earlier.

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There's a bunch of weird scenes, shots that happen.
Like there's one that you see through the lens of a camera or the viewfinder on a cameraof a guy on the beach who puts his camera down and then runs to pose in the photo.
You don't know who that is and you never see the photo taken.
Things just keep it keeps cutting to things like that that I don't.

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understand at all.
when they're in the water, there's like the classic bikini walking away from the camerashot.
Right.
And when they're showing the people in the water, they're clearly in a swimming poolbecause, that's another thing this movie loves to do is when someone lands in the water,
most of the time, all like the underwater stuff that it's cutting to is absolutely veryclearly shot in a swimming pool, which I think we've seen before in this series.

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Yes, yes indeed.
Even back to Orca, there was clearly stuff shot at marine land of the Pacific that wassupposed to be out in like the North Atlantic.
Only Spielberg could hide the fact that he shot in a pool, right?
Yeah, he did.
mean, it's that jaws, you wouldn't know it, but, it's, uh, that's, you know, it wasactually, you know, the editors, the swimming pool where, where the head comes up, but

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it's, it's so interesting.
So we have a very abrupt sex scene between.
it a sex scene?
Well, I mean, I think people are engaging in sex, but it's very abrupt.
It's really just like a closeup of Angela's face as they're kind of.
And she seems in sounds.
pained and she's very sweaty and like red and you just see whatever male is with her, hishead blocking most of the camera shot the whole time as she sounds like something awful is

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happening to her.
doesn't sound fun.
It doesn't at all.
And it's so brief and it's so strangely set up.
And then this is what you mentioned a quick cut.
Like this movie is packed with hard cuts.
Most of my notes begin with
in all caps, hard cut too.
then whatever is happening that continues throughout the duration of the movie.

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Well, I think the atomic blast blew all the transitions away.
That's it.
Probably.
We get random close-ups of crocodiles, you know, and I'm like, is the crocodile close by?
Is he watching them?
Is he a perv?
We have no idea, there's no context to any of them.
Yeah.
So, Linda then goes out into the water looking for the daughter who is nowhere to befound.

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She's calling out the name and
And at first I was like, wait, no, she's not the mother, but she's looking for thedaughter, which is, you know, that's fine.
No, it's not fine.
Because if, if this child, if anyone was in the water, you would see them.
Right.
And she's calling out the name as though, okay, well, if I don't see her, maybe she'llhear me.

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But if I don't see her, that means she's underwater.
And so she's not going to hear me, but she's looking around for like, maybe if I lookagain over here, she'll be there.
And it doesn't make any sense at all because she's either there or she's not.
Right.
Well, that's the thing is if the girl is underwater, you could tell, this, it's not likethey're out in the deepest part of the ocean.

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The girl doesn't have scuba gear.
She would, you'd be able to tell, there's somebody underwater over there.
And this feels like crafting the movie like in the exact same way as using clips fromother movies.
It's just, I know that when people are looking for someone, they look around.

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So that's the shot that I want.
But in context for the story, as you mentioned, Justin, it makes no sense to have theactor look around.
And so it's a breakdown for the director and the actor.
uh
And look, maybe I'm asking too much here or whatever, but uh yeah, it's just like, it's soindicative of this movie doing things.

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Just we've got the visual and we're going to use it regardless.
Right, right.
And then, you know, a little orange inner tube pops up.
Where was it underwater?
Like how was it?
Yeah, what was holding that down?
What was holding it down?
Like it's a few minutes.
them the benefit of the depth.
The crocodile was holding it down.
Yes.

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Yes.
So we get Linda's looking around and then we get a first person shot from the Crocs POVand that croc gets really close to her bathing suit.
He's going for it.
He's ready.
He's Randy and ready.
my God.
Here's the thing.
And this is going to be a big one.
The size of this crocodile is incredibly inconsistent over the course of this movie.

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Like sometimes.
It's the size of the alligator in Alligator, like big enough to swallow a person.
But there's other times where it's big enough to swallow a two-story building.
I can buy a giant

(32:46):
One that shrinks and goes back.
There it is.
Incredible shrinking crocodile.
Godzilla doesn't like shrink down to like Godzilla Jr.
size just so you can, you know, have a thing.
It's like Godzilla is just big.
I can buy a croc the size of a building that is stomping through, you know, a modelvillage.

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Honestly, I'm here for that kind of thing.
But it keeps moving, it keeps changing.
But like...
Here's the thing, even the croc at the smallest size, there's no way she wouldn't noticewhen it's not like two inches away from her pelvis.
She noticed, Hey, there's a big fucking croc there.
Yeah, but we don't even see it.
That's the thing in, in this sequence as will happen again, there's just flailing.

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There's no gator.
There's not even like a fake tail.
There's, there's no effort to make it look like a gator is or a croc.
Sorry.
I'm going to do that a lot.
I that there's a croc in this sequence with her.
So.
I mean, mean, maybe it was a serial killer and he pinned it on the Gator.
They were looking for a Gator or croc.
I'm to do the same thing.

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Like, like it, maybe it was the husband kill.
You know, was like, who knows?
There you go.
This has come up in past movies.
If they were giving us awesome croc shots, I don't think any of us would be caring aboutthe logic of any of this.
They would just say, whatever you need to do to get me awesome croc action, I'm all forit.

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But it's a little lacking.
It's not.
and Linda gets pulled under, presumably by a crocodile, though we don't know that forsure, and then Angela arrives just in time to see this happen, and she gets eaten too.
Well, she flails.
Well, she flails, but presumably.
So that's it for Linda and Angela, and apparently the daughter Anne too.

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was genuinely surprised because the first 20 minutes of this film following the hurricane,which was from another film, really seemed to be telling us that these two women are going
to be our main characters.
So we're left with these two men, like these two guys that we kind of don't like.
And it feels like they've been such non-presences so far in this movie.

(34:59):
It feels like we're starting over with new protagonists and these two men are going to goout for revenge against the crocodile.
But first, so much ambulance noise, police and ambulance car sounds and scenes in thismovie.
You could pull all of those from this and probably have a decent 20 minute reel.

(35:20):
No, for real.
And absolutely inside POV shots and ambulances, the outside of ambulances, ambulancesparked and people gathered around them.
It's very much a theme and maybe a fetish for the director.
Yeah, it goes on.
And there's a lot of time when they're figuring out what like
Like it takes time.
Eventually Linda's remains wash up on the shore.

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They don't really see it.
We just see like an ambulance coming to collect them.
But, there's, there's so little left of her.
They can only identify her from her engagement.
Well, that's just a hand, like a hand that washes up.
That's what the fishermen get that in a little bit here.
But like, you know, there's more, there's more ambulances.
We were treated to a lot of shots of Tony sitting at a table in the, in the hotel, justdrinking.

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He's upset and I get it, know, hey, I mean, he didn't seem to be that involved with hisfamily, but hey, you know what?
He's upset.
I get it.
This is one of the rare times where I can kind of see what they're going for and I canalmost get on board.
It's just not executed right.
But this will sound crazy.
This little sequence of, you know, the shots of him drinking it, it actually is movingvery fast.

(36:29):
I mean, slow, fast, but instead of having whole scenes, you're having a longer shot tokind of communicate that same information, which this, kind of occurs nowhere else in this
movie.
And it reminded me of a...
not effective version, but like of something uh that like Soderbergh did in Contagion,where you dispense with, my God, the Contagion got worse by he has this series of shots of

(36:56):
people in suits in conference rooms in like glass ah walled skyscraper rooms.
You just know you're cutting from room to room to room like, oh, everything's gone toshit.
So I appreciate the trying to, you know,
do a little something here, yeah, it's too, it just doesn't quite work.

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it's, and then it quickly goes back to the other mode.
There's a scene shot at night of some divers walking and the dad is walking from the pier.
The sunset's actually very pretty in this part of the movie.
It's very dark, but it is so dark that it's almost impossible to make out.
And we're not going to see these divers until like 90 minutes from now.

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And this is a great early example of what I was talking about earlier when I said time isirrelevant to this movie because
these divers presumably have been in the water for days.
By the time we see them again.
And these two guys, the doctors, the main dudes, they will be in multiple places whilethings are happening at the same time.

(38:03):
oh So we'll have action happen somewhere.
They'll cut to them doing something else.
They'll cut back to them in the same place that they were a few minutes ago in the sameclothes, clearly doing the same stuff.
and then cut out to some other action somewhere else.
And then maybe 20 minutes later we'll return to that second location.
So these guys either have multiples of them or they are somehow existing by timetraveling.

(38:29):
of space and time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it's yeah.
Time, time doesn't mean much here.
It's Tony, Tony decides he's going to resign for his, from his job as a doctor anddedicate himself.
to seeking vengeance for his wife and child.
He goes into the morgue one night and I think he examines the remains, but I found thewhole scene very confusing.

(38:54):
And that's another example where he's in the morgue with that mask on and that blob of redtowel or whatever's in front of him there after he opens the gate to the thing.
We see that scene here and then he'll be in that same place in about 45 minutes in thesame scene with all the same stuff around him.
Yeah.
As though he had been there the whole time.

(39:15):
this version of Tony is existing for 45 minutes of the movie in the morgue and we neverreally figure out what he's doing.
Like, why is there already blood on the floor of the morgue?
So much blood on the floor.
Like that just feels like a bad morgue.
Definitely.
this, this whole setup is a reverse orca and the crazy because the animal killed thehuman's family and now the human wants revenge.

(39:40):
The weird thing is, is I felt more sympathy for the orca.
This guy hated his family.
He his family, he his whole life, he was just looking to get back to his job.
And smoke his pipe.
Smoke his pipe, you know, it's just so, like, honestly, there's choices in this movie.

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Why did we need to go see him get new contact lenses?
Well, so that doc, the optometrist could hand him the newspaper and get him the latest.
And by the way, that's another thing, that throughout this film, people are hearing andlearning about this stuff, even though there's always crowds around when something has
happened.
And every ambulance in the entire country is somehow involved in this thing, including atone point a VW microbus with an ambulance light on top of it.

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I don't understand that.
A friend of mine, Brian Clark listens to the show here and he loves this movie.
And I need to ask him why I want him.
I wish we had him on here to sell us.
Honestly, I need to know what, what, what he sees Brian.
We'll have you on.
We'll do a.
I'll do a follow up because I'm like, this was just Tom.

(40:50):
Yeah, because I have a note that I do think there's a group for me, at least there's agreat 10 minutes in this hour and a half movie.
Yeah, it's it's not all together.
It's not consecutive.
But there are there are flashes of things, a sequence coming up in a bit that I willmention that I actually thought was cool.
But it's also very short lived.

(41:10):
Right.
Yeah, I don't get it either, because I don't mind a lack of cohesion.
But I need more cookies.
Well, that's
Right?
It's like you can throw out the rule book, but as long as you're interesting, ultimatelythat can carry a lot.
But this just isn't interesting most of the time.

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So we get shots, we get the standard shot of Tony reading books about the animal he'll bechasing, in this case a crocodile.
He goes to a reptile expert who tells them that a crocodile could in fact live in the sea.
And meanwhile, we have a giant croc menacing more swimmers.
He eats a woman who loses her bikini top in the croc's mouth.

(41:52):
And the crocodile, by the way, has great big glowing eyes sometimes.
Twice.
Twice.
Twice, in this scene and then later in the movie.
Very towards the end.
At the very, very end.
Other times it's just a regular crocodile eye, which they cut to a lot.
And his whole research thing, I'm wondering what could he possibly be looking for in anyof this?

(42:15):
And there's a big skull of a crocodile that these two guys hang out with a lot in movie.
And he opens and closes the jaws.
And I'm thinking, OK, what are you learning?
You know that they bite and that they kill and they spin around.
OK, what else do you need here?
so many books and there's scenes of him reading so much that he's exhausted.
There's one scene- He's so exhausted he falls over on the sidewalk.

(42:38):
And breaks his glasses.
And there's one Break-one's not a problem because he's got contacts.
He's got the, oh, that's what I was going to say earlier, that throughout this whole filmpeople learn about what's going on through newspapers.
It's repeated from the very beginning when they're having their first dinner together.
He's sitting there with his pipe reading the paper.
Newspapers are very much how news travels in this universe.

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But there's one scene where he's researching in a library and he's done so much, he isjust exhausted and starts to fall asleep and he's taking his glasses on and off and on and
off.
And I don't know what he is obsessively studying because it seems like a pretty simplematter to me.
Like find this thing and do something with it.
Right.
Right.

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And to be unfair again, to contrast that with book learning in Jaws.
Right.
It's very small, but you have two points where it matters uh just to show progress with uhBrody can show, and Hooper is surprised that Brody has read up, started to read up on
sharks and maybe knows a little something.

(43:41):
Right.
And then uh the boat illustration in the book with the wife.
Right.
Where she is okay with the kid with their son being out on the water in the boat.
And then.
Yeah.
So it's just, and those aren't so critical.
They don't give you, you know, the win at the end or anything, but it's just you, you,they, affects the story.

(44:01):
But, and there's little things in the books that Brody reads that foreshadow what's gonnahappen later.
Like the shark attack, the boat, you see a picture with a crocodile, Jesus Christ, it'sall ginning up in my mind.
With the shark with a tank in its mouth again, which comes into play later.

(44:23):
Like those shots have purpose.
Here it's just like book learning.
He's just doing book learning.
And at this point too, to touch on my point earlier about the daughter, there's in hishorrifying relationship with her that they don't talk enough about to help us understand.
He doesn't ever miss his wife.
What he does is he has a tape recording on a reel to reel of his daughter talking.

(44:46):
And she's of course, cause everything is referential.
Like there's a photo later in the movie of everyone together that was clearly taken in ascene earlier in the film.
But here it's her talking about her swimsuit.
It's talking about whatever else.
And he gets so upset because she's not there for him anymore that he smashes the recorder.
He picks it up and smashes it on the ground by these beautiful beaded curtains.

(45:09):
And I'm thinking, man, how is he so, I mean, I understand losing a child would be theabsolute worst.
my God.
But it's as though his wife never existed.
Right.
Losing a wife and a child might be is also, you know, like it's just, yeah, there's solittle emphasis placed on the wife.
And it's so strange because for the first 20 minutes, you think that the two women aregoing to be the ones driving this.

(45:32):
They realize it's a crocodile.
And then on a dark and stormy night, Tony and John meet a fisherman named Tanaka, who Ithink saw the crocodile and wants to help them kill it.
And this guy comes in and without any real conversation, just places himself and his shipat the doctor's disposal.

(45:55):
More than that, Captain Tanaka shows them both this gigantic tattoo of an eagle on hischest.
That is clearly just drawn on there.
I said, that was my next note, it like, it was done with a magic marker.
There's no question.
Cause you have a real close up shot of it and it is magic marker.

(46:17):
like, oh my God.
Okay.
So this tattoo, this guy, he says,
to my father and slaps his tit.
And then he says, it's a sign of protection against the sea monster.
An eagle will somehow beat the monster.
Like what's an eagle gonna do against the sea monster anyway?

(46:37):
Someone needs to explain this.
And then this scene is full of, did you guys notice these awkward pauses throughout thewhole thing as though a couple of these guys couldn't remember their lines and they just
left it all in.
It's so weird.
How there are at least two moments where everyone's just sort of standing, looking off inthe distance.
And then someone goes, and then we'll do, they come back into it all of a sudden.

(46:59):
It's so weird, but this is our quint.
This is barely our quint, but surely.
And I got excited because I thought for me, the most unforgivable sin is there's notenough Tanaka.
thought, yeah, oh, here is where the movie turns into like, give me a crazy fishermanwho's shirtless with a giant eagle tattoo drawn on him and let's get crazy.

(47:23):
But then Tanaka disappears for such large stretches of this thing.
He's gone.
He's just gone for large stretches of this thing.
Yeah, and apparently it's a, a, the, tells the story about the symbol and the importance.
As you mentioned, the eagle is going to defeat the monster that will come from the sea.
And I mean, it's lucky that this guy with an eagle tattoo happened to be the one to seethe crocodile.

(47:46):
Like how much more difficult would things have been for them if they're, the captainwouldn't have had a familial quest to vanquish a sea monster.
But there's one problem guys.
nothing even remotely like that happens in the movie.
Not even metaphorically.
Like, I mean, I guess now we got three guys in a boat, which sounds familiar, but likethis whole thing about like, is he going to be the one and that sort of thing.

(48:10):
We are in for a completely different ending.
Well, we'll get to it, but holy shit.
It's so if you think we're headed out on the boat immediately, think again.
because we need to pad out the running time of this thing.
cut to this village, this miniature of this village, which is terrific.
Yeah, I love this.
I love this little bit.
I I do.

(48:31):
love the miniature of the village.
I hate, basically the next thing which is, know, is this village seems to exist solely tokill crocodiles.
There's a crocodile show.
Yeah, it's like a crocodile show at this village.
Like the setup of the establishing shot of the model, fantastic.

(48:51):
What we actually see in the village is awful because it's like a crocodile show wherethey're...
killing crocodiles and and like Tinturera we have real footage of crocodiles beingbrutally killed and there's no reason for it.
they linger on the shots for so long.

(49:12):
mean it was absolutely unbearable watching this guy try to cut the head off of one.
Yeah.
And then start slicing up the body as you see it and you see the alligator wigglingaround.
Yeah, no, it's awful.
is absolutely awful.
is just like, and it goes on and it doesn't, there's no point.

(49:34):
Like I don't even know why this is in just ahead the running times.
uh God, this animal brutality.
It's really tough.
It is really tough.
Maybe they think it's setting up our titular crocodile coming in and just destroying thisentire village.
That's what I thought.
I was like, are they trying to set up that the crocodile's getting revenge for how othercrocs are treated?

(49:54):
It's the only thing I could think of and the croc taking out the village is great.
I could do without the cannibal Holocaust footage though.
Absolutely.
So yeah, the giant crocodile attacks this village and causes absolute mayhem.
This thing is huge.
It's like the size of a building.
you know, honestly, like this, this part is really good, although I will say it's undercutby some really, really choppy editing because it cuts so quick.

(50:26):
It's tough to get a sense of what's going on.
It's just people getting knocked around.
And there's some good tail slaps in there too.
There are some good tail As a nod back to Alligator.
That's going to come into play in both films in a really good way.
Yeah, the second one has got some great tail slaps in particular.
You know what's weird is that the score during this attack is very understated.

(50:48):
Yeah.
That it's not some bombastic, I mean, for all the pounding disco and whatever otherdramatic music we've had and the animated storm clouds with thunderous.
It has none of that.
It's almost like they pulled score from something else as a temp or something and thenjust left it in because it serves, it doesn't serve the scene in this chaos at all.

(51:09):
No, I agree.
I agree.
It's, very strange.
Uh, yeah, I mean, there's this fun stuff here with, but I wish they, again, sometimes knowwhen not to cut and when to let me see something like a crock hitting a dude with its
tail.
Cause I'm, I'm here for that.
And we do see a guy falling, flying through the air and going through the roof of athatched building.

(51:31):
And it doesn't ever really establish how he ended up flying.
We didn't even see him get hit.
Right.
You just see a shot where this guy comes flying from the top of the frame down throughthis roof.
And I'm like, my God, what, what all is happening here that we're not seeing.
Right.
And, and, uh, above water, the water's full of blood and people, but when they cut to theswimming pool shots underneath the water, it's like five guys.

(51:55):
Yeah.
Tony and John come to the conclusion that the crocodile thereafter has been mutated by theatomic explosions.
By God, it's a mutant, one of them says.
So basically it's Croxilla, which again, you're telling me it's a giant mutant crocodilethe size of a uh building.
I'm here for that.

(52:15):
But it's the shrinking, it will go back down to a uh large but still like...
plausible size and then it's then it's it's it scales up to like, you know, not quiteGodzilla, but maybe like angerous size, you know creature.
It's crazy.
So at this point we're like halfway through the movie and we introduced two new charactersWe haven't seen before a cop and his young partner And the movie doesn't really introduce

(52:40):
them It just sort of they show up as that they've been there all along and the cop isstanding there Smoking a cigarette and then the younger one is like washing himself in
like a uh spigot
And the police plan, I guess after this village has been ravaged, the police plan seems tobe to fashion a giant bear trap and put it underwater to catch the croc.

(53:03):
this is hilarious.
This might be my favorite thing in the movie.
giant Wiley Coyote steel trap underwater is fantastic.
uh
like something out of the 60s Batman TV series.
Totally does.
Like it's, there's endless, you know, people in scuba gear setting it up.
And this thing is gigantic.
Like it is like if an adult male were to lay down in it, like, you know, it wouldn't, hewouldn't even like it's, it's longer than a person.

(53:33):
It's like a person in a head.
It's gigantic.
And then we never see the croc spring the trap.
We just see that it's clamped onto the end of the tail and waving around.
And this thing is just like, it's this little tiny thing on this giant tail.
And I'm like, that thing is as long as two guys.
is, that is hilarious.
And it's alleged in a nod to Jaws that this is tied to a barrel.

(53:56):
Remember that's floating above the water.
So the idea is that once they get the thing in the, well, first of all,
They put it on the bottom of this very shallow water, right?
Okay.
So they're in this ocean water.
They lay the thing out on the bottom, like you would in the woods for whatever.
Right.
For a bear.
They're just assuming that the crocodile on the bottom of the water is just lumberingaround and will accidentally step in it or something like that.

(54:20):
I don't really get that.
That's the whole plan.
Yeah.
they, the rest of the plan is that it's tethered to a barrel above the water so they cantrack wherever it goes once it has been trapped.
this is going on to Jaws, of course.
when they show the thing on the croc's tail, there is no cable.
No barrel.
There's no barrel associated with it.

(54:41):
No.
At all.
No, no, there's no barrel associated with it at all.
It's true.
uh Tony and John waste a lot of time mixing up some kind of formula to attract the croc.
Like so much time.
Crocodile chum, like this magic crocodile chum, it's like this chemical bait.

(55:02):
And they spend endless time testing it.
They do.
And they have those jars sitting there and it's the exact colors of the three sauces youget when you go to an Indian restaurant and you get your appetizers.
With the little, oh, I forget what it's called.
pakoras you can dip into these things.
And I'm thinking, oh, what are they serving up here?
And then they have this little baby gator in a fish tank and they pour their concoction inthere to test it to see, okay, is this going to, we don't know what it was supposed to do,

(55:30):
but it doesn't do anything.
And they're just disappointed.
don't really know.
So they have to keep working on it.
And this is another one of those scenes where we keep cutting for the next like 15 minutesback to them in this place, working with their sauces as they're out in the world doing
other things in their other bodies.
It's remarkable.

(55:50):
It's remarkable.
It's really, it's really something.
Equally remarkable is an interlude we have where the crocodile, who is now back down to areasonable size, eats three kids swimming in a river.
And right from the off, I wrote down, this feels like it's from another movie.
And sure enough, it is.
As a matter of fact, it is from another Sempote Sans movie called Cry Thong, which is amovie about a demon crocodile lord.

(56:19):
who can transform from crocodile to man and abducts a woman to be his bride.
Now this is apparently a famous Thai folk tale that has been adapted into films manytimes, including twice by Sompote Sans.
Now, remember the title, Cry Thong, because that will become important later in thisepisode.

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The crocodile attacks another village.
We get footage from the earlier attack.
Uh, you know, looks like footage from the earlier attack.
Like they just split it up into two sections.
Tony and John figure out that the crocodile attacks every three days, which doesn't seemto matter much at all.
Like, why does that?
It just doesn't come into play.
This scene is another one where it's a perfect illustration of sometimes trying to dointeresting things, but just not having the attention to detail.

(57:06):
There's a shot in here that I'm like, my God, if this was, this is the poster, I think forthis, for my feelings about this movie.
So the two guys are there and they have that map drawn on the, you know, transparentplastic.
looks like a transparency sheet when they're trying to figure out the pattern and all ofthat.
And look, they're holding the sheet up.
between themselves and camera.

(57:27):
So you're shooting through that transparent map drawn up and you're seeing the guy's faceis studying the map.
And on some level you're playing with the planes of distance and you're like, ooh, this iskind of interesting for in a no budget way, right?
You're trying to do something.
Except the whole thing is undercut because they let the one side just curl down.

(57:49):
And it looks like crap.
And this is...
All you would have to do is say, Hey, could you move your hand to the right, to thecorner?
So it keeps it straight.
So the cool look is there in the whole frame and they just don't do it.
And I'm, you know, anyway, so it's like, that's one where the fix is cheap.
know, I guess you would have had to have done a second shot and maybe they like literally,maybe they didn't have, you know, money for the film to do it, but it's just, it's kind of

(58:18):
sex.
like, here's something interesting.
And they just dropped the ball.
And one of the guys goes, we need to look at over five times.
And then they continue to hold on them staring at it.
What?
The fourth time wasn't enough guys.
No, no, no, no.
They meet with captain Tanaka again in a scene that is literally the same footage from theprevious meeting dubbed with new dialogue.

(58:41):
Like it's raining out again.
know, these people exist in multiple spaces and times.
It's all like, yeah.
Yeah.
And then, and then finally they all go on Tanaka's boat to kill the croc.
am pretty sure I saw them passed by the distinctive rock from the 1974 James Bond film,The Man with the Golden Gun, the one that concealed the solar panels for the Solex device,

(59:05):
just as another movie shot in Thailand.
And, and so they're like, okay, they're going out on the boat hunting the crocodile.
Things are going to get exciting now.
You forgot about the buffalo scene.
there is the buffalo scene.
Yes.
They because they established several times in this movie.
There's one scene with a monkey that they show.

(59:25):
There's a scene with a monkey kind of on on the crocodile's tail.
Yeah, it starts with a monkey on a branch and it ends up at the monkey doesn't get killed,which is great.
It's just riding on the crocodile on the end, which OK, here they you see a water buffaloand it's injured.
And I'm thinking, no.
OK, here we go again with more of this crocodile type.
murder footage.

(59:46):
And it keeps cutting between all of these different buffalo, one of which is tied to atree.
It's very confusing.
And then the fake crocodile chomps down on this buffalo, lifts it up in its jaws, and justwanders off with it, like walks away.
It's so bloody.
this massive crocodile on this big buffalo body, and it just walks away.

(01:00:10):
It is the most hilarious the crocodile looks.
in this movie.
yeah, no, no, you're right.
You're right.
did.
I, the, the crocodile water buffalo encounter is, it's something.
It is, it is something.
If you think that, now they're out on the boat hunting the crocodile, things are going toget exciting.
Nope.

(01:00:30):
If anything, the movie gets more boring as they hit the doldrums literally andfiguratively.
Like, like it's just, they're out there on the water forever.
Just.
floating around and and I'm like, here's my question.
Here's my question guys.
This mutant crocodile is killing people by the dozens.
It has trashed two villages, admittedly very similar looking and the only plan is thesethree amateurs on a boat?

(01:00:58):
Like that's the only hope of destruction.
they had, we had our big bear trap plan.
That didn't work.
So fuck it.
Leave it to the two doctors and the dude with the eagle tattoo.
And why do they need to go out to the middle of the ocean?
Cause this thing is quite intent on attacking people right off the shore, the rest of themovies.
Like, well, no, he probably relocated about eight hours out into the ocean and we're tospend so far in real time.

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We're going to hang out with these guys as they're just trolling around in the water,climbing from deck to down to whatever.
Oh, so oh long.
it's so long.
The secrets of the boat.
Yeah.
I think the answer to why they do it is because that's how Jaws ended.
And so regardless of context, that's what they're going to do here.

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That element.
Yeah.
I mean, we get so much.
That's when all the character stuff really is played to mastery and jaws.
Everything on that boat, everyone credits all of that stuff with being the heart of themagic of what people remember about that movie in a lot of ways.
And here it's like a travelogue.
God.
It's just, it's just, it's so, it's so

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Dull, my God.
Brian Clark, explain yourself.
And then, I will say, one of the things I thought was amazing was they released the crockbait, the three sauces into the water and stored in these metal drums, these big metal
drums, which they drop into the water and then blow apart with the big harpoon gun at thefront of the boat.

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Why?
Why do they need to blow up the barrels?
Just, you know, open them and
Wash them overboard!
If the idea is to get this substance into the water to attract the croc, why do need toblow the barrel to smithereens?
Well, they're bored out there.
I'm bored, I was bored there.
So then guys, we're about an hour and 10 minutes into this hour and 30 minute movie andthe filmmakers make a decision that is mind boggling.

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Like, and when I was talking about breaking or ignoring screenwriting rules at the top ofthe show, this is what I was thinking of.
So the guys on the boat, they see something on the horizon.
First they think it's the croc, but it turns out to be a small boat carrying a reporternamed Peter.
And this fucking guy, like this guy is so irritating.
He doesn't even have the money to pay the boat driver.

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So he has to have John do it for him and John pays the guy.
And so this guy, 20 minutes left in this movie is going to become our fourth member of thecrew.
And to note, he is played by Robert Chan, the producer of the film.
So if you think the fourth character is going to spice things up, Nope.
Things get more dull.
At one point, everybody just falls asleep.

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Like, it's just like, everybody just falls asleep on the ship.
Like, it's, God.
Like, occasionally you get shots of the crocodile, but mostly the close-up of the eyes.
There's nothing to give context to where it is in the relation of the boat.
And then finally, finally, the croc shows up next to the boat and Captain Tanaka is theonly one on deck to do anything.

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The rest are all locked below, like, and they can't get, they can't open the door.
They're like a Keekstone Cops, they can't open the door and they're falling all over eachother.
And then the croc,
which is now the size of the boat, leaps out of the water like someone threw a rubbercrocodile at a toy boat in a pool, which is probably what happened.
But you're thinking, oh, this is gonna be Tanaka's big moment, right?

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He's got the eagle tattoo, he's got the whole family legacy to live up to, the other guysare locked below decks like a bunch of idiots.
Nope, Kroc knocks him overboard with his tail and eats him.
Bye, Tanaka, so much for the prophecy.
Guys, what the fuck?
I mean, this end, there's one shot of the rubber crocodile mouth that's wide open and theyou know, the guy all the way in the throat that I enjoyed that shot.

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Yep.
I forget if that was to knock or another one of the guys but
Oh, I can't remember if was that or later when he eats the another one, but it all blends.
At this point, I mean, it's just like you build up this whole thing with Tanaka and thisprophecy and then it's just, oops, nope, it's eaten by the crocodile.
You know, it's, I don't know.

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So the next day they put more bait in the water, they shoot open the barrel with a machinegun.
Again, why?
The croc shows up, they start shooting at it with machine guns and the big harpoon.
Amazingly, they never have to reload the harpoon gun at the front.
It always has got a harpoon in it.
And then after firing a few harpoons, it appears they've killed the creature.

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Great.
John has an emotional breakdown, which I suppose is understandable considering what'shappened.
And rather than starting head for home, they just sit around on the water to have acigarette until inevitably the croc, you know, still alive, bumps the boat from
underneath.
So.
We're making the end, John gets knocked into the water, eaten by the croc, and it dragsthe boat down, you know, with Tony on top of the mast with a stick of dynamite, which

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again, shades of the end of Jaws.
I'm like, I see where this is going.
I see where this is going.
And then, no, he throws it in the water.
It just kind of ineffectively pops into the water.
And then the photographer, the annoying photographer who showed up 20 minutes before theend.
who is played by the producer appears with dynamite strapped to his body and throwshimself into the, at the crocodile.

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And there's an explosion.
And then we cut to disco music.
Who lives?
Who dies?
No idea.
Is presumably the photographer is dead.
He was strapped with dynamite.
The croc.
Yeah.
Tony, no idea.
Man, this movie.
got, I got, I got to talk to your friend.
I want to know what it is.
Yeah.
We need to get Brian on here.
Like it's crazy.
Cause I,

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By the end of this movie, I was questioning some choices.
I was questioning some life choices because it was just tough.
It was a chore.
Oh my God.
mean, what?
Like the photographer shows up and then becomes the guy who blows up the crocodile, thisguy we haven't seen before.
Like it's insane.
Like no screenplay is written that way.

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No.
That's why there's no writers credited.
There's no writers credited.
You think they did this Cassavetes style?
It's kind of like they had the outline.
They were just kind of going with it, right?
Can you imagine Peter Falk showing up at the end and throwing himself into the crocodile?
That'd be amazing.
I of that.

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so yeah, I got, got it.
It's just a tough movie to get through.
It's, you know, there's, I mean, I'll be honest.
I think you have to go back to Tintarera to find a movie in this series with as little torecommend it as Crocodile.
Like this movie, this series, I think most of the movies have been very entertaining.
Um, but, but you know, at least Tintarera had some interesting throuple action going on.

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And you know, here, like it's just, it's these weirdos and, and they're
bizarre relationships with the, the bizarre relationship with the wife who he doesn't seemto care about and the daughter who he seems to care a little too much about.
eh
The Tinturera throuple, they did love each other.
They did love each other and they all happened to be adults, which was nice.

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know, that helped.
Yeah, yeah.
So but if you think that the use of footage from other films stuck out in Crocodile, youhaven't seen anything yet because our second film today takes the reuse of footage to an
entirely new level.
From 1988, this is Crocodile Fury.

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you
peaceful village on the river becomes infested with crocodiles.
Crocodiles controlled by an evil wizard.
you
NO ONE IS SAFE IN...
CRUTS!

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Why don't we have some fun together?
I'm as hawny as hell and it's been a long time away.
What do you say then,
What are we scared of?

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The fury is a love story.
Maria, just be content being a crocodile.
If you really cared for me, Jack, you'd be a crocodile too.
And then we could both be together right away.
What do you think?
As you wish.
You know oh

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And it's a story of revenge!
Tancorous Crocs?
We're just hungry!
this crocodile business has gone far enough!
I'm sa-

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You are a wise and powerful man, must be some way to defeat them right now.
This hero is going to take these crocs' suckers down!
Then they'll be crying more than just crocodile tears!
uh

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Crocodile Fury!
boy.
That trailer's use of Elton John is going to get this whole episode taken down.
So demonetized and we don't even make money off of this.
No.
It's just, also want to preface this whole discussion by saying this is completely myfault.

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You guys were exposed to this movie because when we started talking about this series, Ithink I proposed one movie and I'm pretty sure it was this one.
it?
a couple of movies that you suggested like day of the animals, I think was on your list.
There were a couple of good ones and, crocodile fury.
This, this movie is so overwhelming to watch.

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It's something that is exhausting in its face and all the stuff that's going on and itratchets up the insanity.
can't, it's a, it's a crescendo of insanity in this movie.
this, this one as opposed to crocodile, no one can say is ever boring.

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Never get a chance to catch your breath, let alone feel like God, I wish this scene wasover because man, does this thing move, it can.
This is a hybrid of so many elements.
yeah.
And it has so much that I love in it.
And uh man, I'm really glad that we're getting a chance to talk about it.
Oh, it's fascinating.
mean, no, one thing you will not be is bored by Crocodile Fury.

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You may feel like you're going insane, but you won't be bored doing it.
first, let's just talk.
The credited director of Crocodile Fury is Ted Kingsbrook.
So who is Ted Kingsbrook?
Well,
That's a little unclear.
Kingsbrook may have been Hong Kong-based filmmaker Godfrey Ho, or maybe not.

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If you're familiar with Godfrey Ho, you're probably aware that he built a career usingrecycled footage, usually dubbed over from other movies, and we get a lot of that here.
uh Crocodile Fury certainly is that.
But it also may have been a pseudonym for producer Thomas Tang.
Nobody seems really sure who Ted Kingsbrook is.

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He's a man who walks through the raindrops.
No one knows.
And we should probably say that there isn't a whole lot in common with Jaws here, but thefilm is so bizarre and oddly connected to Crocodile that we just, you know, we couldn't
not talk about it.
So how do we describe Crocodile Fury?
Well, okay, I'm gonna give it a go.

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Crocodile Fury revolves around a witch named Monica who controls a legion of vampires andis now in league
with the crocodile master whose name is Cooper and together they intend to take over theworld.
And these are not just vampires.
These are Yang Shi.
Yes.
And I have long been fascinated by this sub genre of hopping vampire.

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Yes.
Movies.
I love them dearly.
The first one I ever saw was John Fasano's movie, The Jitters.
Okay.
And I was captivated by this thing and by this concept, by this whole world.
And that led me into Mr.
Vampire and down this rabbit hole of Voyage of the Dead and Encounter of the Spooky Kind.
mean, there's so many of these things out there.

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it was a big thing.
And the mythology is rich on this.
Yes.
Culturally as well as cinematically and in literature.
And even now in like manga books and uh animated shows and in movies and things like that.
Like this really endures.
In fact,
I have one, do you guys remember Living Dead dolls?
Yes.
I have one Living Dead doll and it's one of these vampires.

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is the most adorable little thing and it comes in this coffin box.
It's so cute.
I've never opened it, but I love it.
I even have like three Funko pops, one of which is one of these things.
I just think it's such a fascinating thing.
it is.
And I'm sure Chris.
you are going to educate us on.
Well, want to for people who might not be familiar with Jiang Shi, which is a creaturefrom Chinese mythology and is often seen in Hong Kong horror cinema in the context of sort

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of Western horror.
would be kind of a hybrid between a zombie and a vampire.
It's basically a reanimated corpse that can drain the life force of the living.
They are often dressed in the attire of the Qin dynasty as they are here.
And in 1985, a you mentioned, uh horror comedy called Mr.

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Vampire was a huge hit and kicked off a wave of Yang-Chi related films.
And Crocodile Fury coming out in 1908 was clearly trying to capitalize on that.
to some degree, it's a little, it's this, this episode, this, particular segment, it's alittle bit, get me another Mr.
Vampire as well.
Yeah.
And, they, one of the funniest and best elements of these things is that to get around,they don't walk.

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They hop, they put their arms in front of them straight out and they bounce up and downand they hop around to get to you and they can fly too.
There are some other things.
Yeah.
And sometimes it can jump like, you know, it's almost like they could leap long distancesin some of the mythology.
Yeah.
And the way to stop them is you can put them at bay.
guess you could say kind of freeze them in their tracks.

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If you put this, there's this paper.
Yeah.
can't remember what it says on it, but I mean, people used to have these by their doors tokeep these things away.
I mean, this is a real cultural thing.
But when you put that paper on their forehead, it instantly freezes them with whatever'sgoing on.
So that's like your one option for respite when these things are coming after you.

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And we're going to see that happen in this movie.
Right, right.
Here's where things get interesting.
So our last movie, Crocodile, directed by Sampode Sands, took footage from another one ofhis films, 1980s Cry Thong.
That movie was, as I mentioned, was about a demon crocodile lord abducting women to be hisbride.

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Well, in 1985, Sans made a sequel, Cry-Thong 2.
And basically, all of the footage in this movie that is about crocodiles or crocodilepeople is basically all from Cry-Thong 2.
So these movies are inexorably linked in that they are both drawing footage from the samemovie series.

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It is just amazing.
Is this our backdoor?
Get me another cry thong.
Yeah.
Exactly, there it is.
So we open with this voice speaking over a black screen as the credits come up and thevoice is saying, uh

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It is so weird and unsettling guys.
was like, what, what is what?
And it's, not, you know, let's, let's be honest.
This is a movie, not why there's no, there is no vinegar syndrome 4k version of crocodilefury.
Although God knows I wish there was.
It's like, it's, it's a, it was clearly from a VHS tape and I think it's got Greeksubtitles burned in.

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Um, it's, it is, it looks like you're watching something from another world.
And it's worth tracking down.
it is.
is.
This movie is fascinating.
It is never boring.
It is bizarre and you will feel like you are, are losing your mind.
that voice at the beginning is hilarious.
It's like a cartoon voice over the top.

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It reminds me that character eventually reminds me of Criswell from a Ed Wood movie.
But this whole movie feels like a spiritual sister to Rollerblade.
That's what I thought, yeah.
Yeah, just in feel.
have nothing in, you know, they're not sharing footage or plot points in common, but justin the sheer audacity and outrageousness of what is happening and it just never lets up.

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And the vibe, so the voice belongs to Monica, this witch, and Monica's this blonde woman.
We see her casting these incantations.
She's got a giant crystal ball.
And the whole vibe of Monica and her lair reminds me, it's like out of a Donald G.
Jackson film.
Like it's got that kind of, everything feels handmade with this 80s glow in the dark kindof thing.

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And we are Team Monica over here.
I want my, if I ever get a place where I can have some sort of room to work myself, it is100 % going to be decorated like Monica's magic lair.
my God, like the glow in the dark skulls.
Yeah, the weird curtains that oddly still show the wall behind them.

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oh I just my god, it is.
I feel like I've walked into my spirit Halloween uh setup there.
It's
No, feels, it's like if you tried to make a movie of a black light poster, this is whatyou'd come up with.
it's, there's so many, there's so many elements.
It's so we cut at one point to two groups of men fighting each other with guns.

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One of them is led by a guy who looks, who is a dead ringer for Johnny Lee Miller.
Like he really, the main guy, Bruce, it's like, really, if you told me it was Johnny LeeMiller's older brother, I'd believe you.
And he couldn't be more.
bored throughout this entire movie.
He has no affect to anything he's doing in his speech, in his face.

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He is just dead to the world.
And I'm so curious to know what this guy's situation was.
And pretty much everything involving him feels like it was, I mean, it was shot separatelyand then just cut into this movie because you'll forget about him and then he'll return.
and none of it matters.
None of it matters.
Like even when you're talking about the stuff, essentially this movie feels like, it feelslike switching channels between two really weird late at night

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like late show movies and you're, it's like the thing where, you know, back in the daywhen there'd these random weird movies on late at night, it feels like you're going back
and forth between channel nine and channel 11.
And when one goes to commercial, you'd cut over to the other and it'd be some weird shitgoing on and you'd have missed part of the movie, but it doesn't matter.
Like this is what it's like watching this movie.

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It's almost vaguely Amazon women on the moon esque in the way that it's, it almost feelslike it's mimicking.
late night television watching back when people watch late night broadcast television.
Yeah, and every exploitation movie that you're uh going back and forth between was made bySid and Marty Croft.

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Yes, yes, yes, absolutely, absolutely.
So we cut to a giant crocodile menacing this village.
And I gotta say, if you want Croc Mayhem, this is the movie for you.
Because holy shit.
It is an orgy of chaos and my god, like it's just it's like it's totally bonkers.

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Like, there's so many things, like there's a guy chased up a pole like he's in a LooneyTunes cartoon.
That we'll see again later in the movie.
Which we'll see again later.
They'll reuse that footage.
Oh, my God.
Like, there's so many stuff.
there's a oh, it's overwhelming.
is overwhelming.
It was so overwhelming that from here on out, my show notes are simply poetry that I wroteabout this movie.

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I thought to do that.
I'm trying to keep the plot straight and it's it was literally like I was working outyesterday.
It was literally making me insane.
I do not envy you, but I would like- I won't read all of them, I don't know that they willall be appropriate, but to open a croc glides the man in his mouth thrashing and splashing
in ore looks tasty.

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I wonder if it is as good as an old man.
I already know the answer.
So that's kind of like my first reel, or maybe the first minute.
I'm not sure.
Hey Rob, you are very pinky out with that and I am the opposite.
My note says the boner croc pops up and grabs the guy on a pole.

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People are being eaten and slammed into the water.
WWE.
Because really the croc, when it comes up out of the water to get that guy, it's like theboner shark in Jaws the Revenge.
Where just this big erect thing shoots up out of the water.
This one stands straight up and this happens a few times in the movie.
There's a million.
iterations of this crock by the way.

(01:23:53):
We there were a lot in the last movie.
That is nothing compared to the insanity that you're going to experience in this.
uh
Technically in this one, uh
There are multiple crocodiles.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
But crocodile.
And magical and literal magic and literal so
Yes.
Yeah.
Like there's the weirdo grandpa and his granddaughter get eaten by the croc.

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It's honestly incredible how many people this thing eats in like the first 10 minutes ofthis movie.
It's amazing.
It's crazy.
And there's a lot of situations where the croc is disrobing people before eating them.
that daughter or the granddaughter is one of them where he yells, oh, my daughter.
And she ends up in the croc, her pants are now off and then everyone just starts jumpingin the water.

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And there's this great-
There's this great shot of a kid diving head first, like you would into the deep end of apool into the croc's mouth.
Into the croc's Yeah.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
And I love whenever the crocodile knocks someone into the water with its big ass tail.
That's my favorite.

(01:24:58):
love there's something about it.
I just love that tail smacking some guy and sending him flying into the water.
Did you see the one shot where it was a reverse?
There was a guy that was in the croc's mouth and then he flies out and back onto the dock.
He throws a rope around its mouth, then gets pulled back in and then uh the rope comes offthe croc's mouth.

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He puts something in its mouth and then we hard cut to a temple, a national park restroom.
We don't know what this building is, but we got it.
Anyway, you're going to explain what's going on now with Mr.
Mustaf.
So, well, here's, so things now.
I'm going to make a statement which is going to seem, things take a turn for the trulyunexpected.

(01:25:44):
When one of the guys from the village approaches the croc who has another dude in itsmouth and asks it to stop killing everyone.
And he says, if you keep killing people, your sins will not be forgiven.
And the guy opens the crocodile's mouth.

(01:26:05):
He pushes the other guy out.
atomically falls into the water and then the crocodile transforms into a woman named Mariaand they have a conversation which is really something.
Maria, just be content being a crocodile.
And please don't cause any more trouble for me in the village.

(01:26:28):
Just remember, Maria, that we have a future together.
And you don't want to jeopardize that, now do you?
Listen, Jack, my master Mr.
Cooper controls all crocodiles.
You know he's in league with that sorceress Monica.
Don't get involved in all that.
You know, if you keep taking the lives of innocent people, we can never be together again.

(01:26:50):
And I want that more than anything else in the world, okay?
If you really cared for me, Jack, you'd be a crocodile too.
And then we could both be together right away.
What do you think?
Maria, it's not possible.
I know you'd say that.
So, then Jack, you won't sacrifice your human life for me.

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But you expect me to wait patiently and not do my master's bidding.
I came back to see you because I love you and want to be with you now.
Not in the future, but now.
And all you say is wait.
Maria, listen.
You just must learn to be patient.
I love you daily and always will love you.
There is no other woman in my life

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But you and you're all that matters to me.
You're full of sweet talk, aren't you?
You know, Jack, I hate you now.
Hey, Maria, don't be like that.
You know, deep down inside that I'll always love you.
That's something that will never change between us now.
It doesn't matter that we're trapped in different worlds.
What matters is our love for each other.

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And that we'll never die.
I promise you.
first thing he says is like, I understand how you feel to her, to the crocodile, not whenshe's a beautiful.
Before it becomes a woman.
Yeah.
And then he's talking about wanting to be reborn again.
And if you, the croc wants to be reborn again, apparently.
And I'm like, this is the croc whisperer, this guy, cause we're just meeting him andlearning about all this stuff.

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And then she turned, then it turns into the girl and they start cuddling.
If you really cared for me, Jack, you'd be a crocodile too.
That's one of the greatest lines I've ever.
I mean, I mean, my God, the sheer.
wants to be with him, but she doesn't want to wait.
Right.
And he's saying, you just need to be more patient.
And she says, you're just full of sweet talk.
And now she hates him.

(01:28:39):
She says again, I mean, it's this wild scenario.
Oh, it is.
And, he's like, our love will never die.
And then whap, he's hit with the crocodile's tail as she changes back into croc form andthen continues fucking up the village.
All of this stuff, everything with the crocodiles is, from.
Crython 2.
And this was another inspo point for me.

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A man unfaithful, the fruit is thrown.
Justice comes swift on sharp teeth, but to be reborn on two legs, one must put downmurderous intentions.
This movie is a fop.
It's It's amazing.
It's amazing.
Now, we're going to switch back to the other movie, which because there's this whole otherthing going on with this guy who's dressed like Boris from the Rocky and Bullwinkle show.

(01:29:29):
Totally.
And he's approaching Monica's lair.
He gets a skull that bites his leg, like a skull kind of jumps up.
uh Flies and bites him in the leg.
He throws up some disgusting goop.
He, this is where we first encountered the Yang Chi.
Yes.

(01:29:50):
Yes, we do.
Yes.
This is where we see that for the first time and that's what incites his barfing and it'sin slow motion and then he barfs some more and then he barfs some more.
Right.
And then he walks away.
Well, no, then he wipes his mouth, says better and moves on.
and, and then this is, this is where we get, we get the Yang Chi and, and, and, and thevampires, they continue to attack this guy.

(01:30:15):
And again,
I'm doing this because this movie kind of cuts between these two stories frequently.
So I was just like, I got to group some of these together or I'll lose my mind.
He eventually, Monica intervenes when she sees him in the crystal ball.
And she does the thing that you mentioned earlier where she like magically puts the paperon top of the Zhang Xie's faces.

(01:30:39):
So they instantly freeze where they are.
And then she
comes and talks to him, and it turns out this guy is named Rudolph.
And he is working with Monica on her world conquering scheme.
And he warns her that the only person that can stop them is agent Bruce Thompson.
This is the guy who looks like Johnny Lee Miller.
Miller is a professional agent who has been assigned to stop them.

(01:31:02):
Assigned by who?
No idea.
we also, they refer to the master that Monica and Rudolph refer to.
There's the master.
They apparently were trained by this master who is now dead, but we don't know what hisgoal was.
It's just that he was in the vampire business.
That's what they say.
And Rudolph is horny.
He's, yeah, that was, yes.
Rudolph is horny.

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It tries.
He tries to kiss Monica.
She's having none of it.
And she says, the master told me the secret to controlling the vampires is to, to controlyour desires.
And then Rudolph goes,
I don't understand the master.
And then Monica wiggles her hand and the vampires follow them both out of her sweet pad.
Rudolph asks what the master's real purpose was and Monica responds by walking intoanother room and will never get an answer.

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But you brought up Monica's physical body movements when doing magic.
they are truly wonderful.
Yes.
Hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba hubba.
Yeah, yeah, it is.
is.
is.
Monica's amazing.
uh Monica, I don't know what I don't know how to describe what she's wearing.

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I don't think she's got pants.
It looks like it's more like garters and stockings.
uh You know, she said, you know, Foxy, she's Foxy.
uh Yeah, it's there.
There's there's a lot of switching channels between these two two stories.
uh
We get a lot of sex pest stuff in this movie.
Like we saw it first with Rudolph.

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There's another like with a guy begging for sex for a woman before he's attacked by acrocodile.
Um, there's a woman wearing a red shirt that deals with the crocodile, but just not takingany of it.
Shit.
Like she just kind of throws some coconuts at it and yells at it.
that's, calls it a bastard.
Yeah.
She's like, this is the crocodile is nothing compared to taxes.

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What he says, take that demon.
Yeah.
And the croc pops up as if it understands the conversation and spits a coconut back atthem.
Yeah.
That's the thing that they're really frightened of is, oh, now it's spitting coconutsback.
Like everybody kind of scatters.
aah But eventually we're going to go down to the lair of the crocodile master, who againis named Cooper.

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That's his name.
And he hangs out as an older guy.
He hangs out in this giant crocodile mouth in a cave.
that looks like the lowest rent version of the Cave of the Dragon from John Borman'sExcalibur.
Like if you could imagine that realized for no money.
There's fog everywhere and all the rocks are like rainbow colors.

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Yeah, it's a sight.
It's a sight.
Oh, and also one other thing.
The crocodile master's lair is called Sea World.
Yep.
Yeah, it's SeaWorld.
They were going down to SeaWorld and Maria turns from a crocodile into a person.
She laments that she can't kill enough people in her crocodile form because of her lovefor Jack, which is the guy she was talking to.

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Her outfit is beautiful.
Like what these what these girls are wearing down there.
It's just absolutely gorgeous outfits the whole the whole time.
It's really.
They are the sexiest crocodile inspired outfits I've ever seen in a movie.
Really cool.
It's amazing.
And Cooper reminds her, and this is important, that from the dawn of time, humans andcrocodiles have been enemies.

(01:34:39):
I didn't know that, but uh now I know that from the dawn of time.
And she admits that she is finding it difficult to forget her past.
He's talking about controlling desires and all that here.
And then he says that crocodiles and Monica's vampires will be united as one.
Yes.
I got news for you, they won't.

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Those things will never come together in this movie.
certainly not in a single shot.
uh Yeah, so back at Monica's place, she's casting more spells.
She's waving her hands.
She's saying all kinds of stuff that I, unintelligible, but awesome.
And what looks like a tadpole climbs out of one of the vampire's mouths, hops into afishbowl, and then hops out into another vampire's mouth.

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That little bit stunned me, have to say.
It's it's it.
I don't know why it disturbed me so much, but it was super affecting.
Well, it's a crocodile, it's a tadpole hopping out of a vampire's mouth into a bowl andthen into one of the vampire's mouth.
That's disturbing.
And then he explodes and disappears.

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Yeah, that happens too.
This movie, I gotta be honest.
This is one of those things where if you just let it wash over you, it's so bizarre, it'snever boring, you can have an experience.
I was trying to in the course of trying to do my notes.
I was trying to make sense of it and I started to lose my mind a little bit.

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Like I was just like, I think my wife heard me, I was working on it.
My wife comes, she's like, I'm like, I think I was making Monica, know, incantations.
I don't know what, I don't It was a bit of a day.
people talk about a lot of movies or whatever as being something on acid or whatever.
This movie actually replicates the confusion of trying to watch a movie on drugs, whereyou just, no matter what you try, you will always be on your back foot with this movie.

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Not unenjoyably so, but just you don't, you're not going to figure it out.
It would be great to have on during a party, like during an event, friends over, just haveit quietly in the background.
Cause every time you look like you'll be talking to someone and every time you look back,it's going to be something completely new and increasingly bizarre.
What, what now?
What the heck?

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And then you can turn away again and turn back.
It's like a mixed tape of insanity.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're right.
It'd be great to have on like, if you had like a projector or something and having it onthe wall at a party.
Like, you know, that would like a big screen or that that would be fantastic.
a single movie that functions like a something weird supercut.
Yeah, The crocodile attacks a father and his baby and the mother goes to the village chieffor the help.

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I think he's the chief.
I got to be honest, I wasn't real clear on who this guy was, but the chief is sick andtired of this crocodile business.
So he does a dance.
This guy is so over the top.
This dance looks like something Jack Black would do if Tenacious D starred in a ShawBrothers movie.
I described it as Crispin Glover in Friday the 13th, part four.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He sits on a platform that floats through the air.
This guy's legitimate.
He's got legitimate powers.
He floats through the air until his clothes disappear and the crocodile eats him.
So much for him.
So yeah, like there's a lot of little...
currents at Eddie's where it doesn't amount to anything, but it's a fascinating little,like it's fascinating to watch this guy do his little dance and then float on his platform

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and then he's done.
He's out of the movie.
So we come back to our hero, put that in question words, Bruce Thompson, who encounters aguy praying for protection from the crocodiles at this shrine.
It looks like this village has been decimated.
And he's there, he's praying and help the guy.

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Bruce gives him an absolutely enormous gold cross for protection.
It's so great.
And immediately the guy fumbles the cross.
Rudolph shows up, opens fire at Bruce with a machine gun.
And just as this happens, the guy bends over to pick the cross up.
So Bruce bends over to pick the cross up.

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And so the bullets miss him and hit the random guy.
Oops.
See, the cross really was protection.
If that guy had held onto it...
If he hadn't fumbled that cross, he would have been okay.
But Rudolph gets shot then too.
Rudolph gets shot then too, but he gets away.
He gets away.
And then we have a scene with a literal sexual predator trying to lure a young girl into aboat.

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Yeah.
That's bizarre.
this guy's like, come.
Rudolph went back to Monica's and Monica is also a doctor and Monica is removing thebullet from him as the vampires watch.
And then for some reason, she goes over to her two hopping vampires and puts tubes intheir mouths that are attached to a hookah and they start smoking whatever smoke is inside

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this.
I really at first thought, oh, they're going to be like drinking blood or something, butit's just, it's like hookah tubes that these things are smoking.
and, uh, Rudolph is maybe a little uncomfortable.
He doesn't seem.
He's shot, so he's not really in a position to do anything about it.
Monica is very bothered by this whole scenario.

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And she says she's going to take revenge now for him.
well, that's nice.
That's good for her.
And then there's this insanely dark scene with people getting attacked in a boat.
You can't even see what's happening during.
yeah.
God, this movie is it's hard to keep straight.
And then we get to the pedo.
And then we get to the pedo.
Yeah.
This guy tries to lure a girl into his boat by promising her a necklace or something.

(01:40:48):
But thankfully, uh, the pedo is, uh, is attacked by a crocodile and eaten by thecrocodile.
calls the crocodile a pervert.
Yeah.
Uh, so that's the, that's the, the, the pervert calling the crocodile, whatever.
I don't know.
It's, it's, I love the idea of a vigilante croc movie.
Like that would be something.
Um, but you know,

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We get the repeated shot of the guy climbing up the pole to get away.
uh but Cooper, Cooper are, are, are, are crocodile Lord or Lord of crocodiles for somereason decides he needs another croc person.
So he resurrects a crocodile spirit.
Now I think this crocodile spirit, he's gotta have a cool crocodile spirit name.

(01:41:31):
What was it?
Let me look at my notes.
yes.
Don Moore, a dangerous man.
He is a dangerous man.
That's what they say.
He's a bad, he's a bad croc spirit dude.
Um, and he goes out and in the crocodile form, he kills a water buffalo in differentfootage from the water buffalo thing from the last movie, which I was shocked at.

(01:41:52):
was like, Oh, they're going to reuse the same footage.
Nope.
They actually have different water buffalo footage.
Um, yeah.
And he's, Don Moore's not a good guy down in sea world in human form.
He tries to rape the croc women.
Like he's really, that's, he seems
Very intent on that.
uh So yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what else to say.
he molests every woman he sees.

(01:42:14):
He is a sex pest in the extreme.
He's a terrible croc spirit, Don Moore.
And he really goes after Maria, who kind of puts him off by striking a fake deal of so I'mnot even sure what that deal was.
Well, it's unclear.
And Maria definitely has a connection to Jack.

(01:42:34):
They were clear the thing when before she became...
When you say these things out loud, they were clearly a thing before she became acrocodile.
And then you say that sentence out loud and you're like, what the hell am I doing?
What is going on?
What is happening here?
Cinema Chris.
Jack, who we haven't seen in a while, he starts training with some guy?

(01:42:56):
The professor he's referred to as.
You see, that's the professor.
Okay.
And to take on the crocodile and to do that, he needs to stay away from temptation anddesires of the flesh.
And forge a magical weapon.
Yes, he does.
has to forge a magical weapon.
the professor says.

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Yeah.
And all of this will be a little tough because apparently every woman loves Jack.
Yeah, no, Jack's, Jack, the character here known as Jack was the hero of Crythong one.
And this is, this is part two.
So you have some, he's coming in with that baggage of already having had success in his,fighting the crocodiles in the first movie.

(01:43:40):
He fought uh a different crocodile master in the first movie.
Does the first movie explain how Maria became a crocodile?
think the original Crocodile Master, uh who is different from the Cooper in this movie,who I think holds a different position in the Kry-Thong movies, uh stole the character we

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know as Maria.
And it was him trying to defeat Crocodile Master I.
It's tough to keep.
straight in the old noggin here.
It's a lot.
yeah, so he crafts a magical weapon.
We have a scene with a guy who claims to be the world's greatest crocodile catcher.

(01:44:30):
Now, this guy is sitting there, he's talking to a crown and behind him, there's a skeletonwho's mimicking his movements and nobody in the crowd seems to think that's weird.
Well, and then the most magical thing happens.
Well, yes.
He subdues a croc.
Well, the greatest croc.
It's a clearly a person in a crocodile suit with legs designed, like the suit is designedto accommodate human legs.

(01:44:57):
It's like a spandex outfit with a big stationary non-moving head on it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's incredible.
And he brags that he can make the croc do whatever he wants.
And my notes here just say Jesus Christ.
And then this sensei guy to prove that he can make the croc do whatever he wants is like,well, I'll make him lay down and then.
I'm going to kick him in the back and then the crock lays down and he kicks it in theback.

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And that happens.
And that happens.
And his skeleton is back there sort of just gesticulating the whole time.
yeah, I, what I didn't know, here's what I wasn't clear on.
Is this a bad crocodile suit in the context of, Hey, the movie couldn't fashion aconvincing crocodile suit that a person was in.

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Or is the whole thing supposed to be a con job and the people watching are too dumb torealize it?
Yeah, snake oil.
That would make sense.
know, that's, that's, you know, Don Moore as a crocodile attacks more people.
Like he seems to, it seems like he could fly.
He, he, there is some major crocodile mayhem in the middle.
Like this, this scene where, like he, he bites a guy's legs off.

(01:46:07):
He tosses one of those legs to a random bystander who catches it.
Like there's some.
really amazing crocodile on human action here as just Don Moore goes to fucking town.
And you briefly said it, but the crocodile flies here.
Yeah, it flies.
I mean, honestly, at this point, it doesn't even faze me at this point.

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And there's someone who this guy comes up with the idea to throw boiling water on thecroc, but then slips and spills on himself before he's killed.
This is one of the iterations of the crocodile that's particularly hilarious because it'sthis really chubby thing that's just kind of lumbering around.
And you would think that someone could very, they all could very easily just get away fromit because it can barely move.

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It can barely go anywhere.
But instead they keep circling around it, running around, acting crazy.
And a girl hides in a planter.
Yeah, the hide and seek bit.
Yeah.
Like the she pops up, the croc pops up, she pops up.
And it goes on for a bit.
The croc, if you want to compare this kind of mayhem to the beginning of the movie, it'scompletely run out of motivation by this point, because it's yeah, things are happening.

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People are falling.
There's guys legs, chuck, chewed off, whatever.
But the way the thing moves and the fact that it doesn't seem to be catching that manypeople in this scene makes it so much different than what happened at the very beginning.
And then in the midst of this, to get away.
instead of just running around in circles like they were, decide to go where?

(01:47:43):
Into the water.
Yeah.
People started Yeah, into the water.
That makes sense.
Yeah, that's Into the water to get away from that thing.
It's nuts.
I mean, we can't, I mean, it's just, it's, when you, when you stop and think about it, itfeels like there's times when you try and kind of entangle with this movie like a normal
movie.

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It's like eating too much ice cream too fast.
But if you just let it, let it kind of happen.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
Eventually Maria and Don Moore team up and Maria convinces Don Moore to kidnap a womannamed Peggy, who she thinks has stolen Jack away.
And fairly she thinks that because that's true.

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Apparently that is Jack's new bride.
His old girlfriend has become a crocodile, so he takes up with Peggy.
Did they ever set up this with Jack and Peggy?
Did I miss it?
you didn't Did I miss that?
No, you did not miss it.
Okay.
But Maria's vitriol for her is intense.
she's at, she's past.
She's past.

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yeah, yeah, no, no.
But, and Maria and Don Moore are going to attempt to overthrow Cooper, but Cooper has agood old, he's got an ace in the hole, he's got a plan because he creates a new crocodile
spirit named Steven.
And he blesses.
love the names.
The names, kill me.
I love them so much.

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Steven.
He blesses Steven with diamond fangs.
Give him diamond fangs and ultimate power.
And yeah.
Now, this is where, who we know in this movie, in Crocodile Fury is Steven.
If you are watching Cry Thong 2, Steven is actually the crocodile lord from the originalmovie who is resurrected.

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Wow.
And so like, it's really like the, it's like the villain from the first movie coming backand now fighting for control of Sea World.
It's so funny.
This whole sequence where he, where Cooper says that I think it's Cooper.
Cooper creates the teeth, right?
Yeah.
The diamond fangs.

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Yeah.
So Cooper who keeps telling everyone not to fuck like the whole movie is about controllingyour sexual urges while every man is a rapist throughout the whole thing.
But he says he can control the crocs and we see this adorable little baby crocodilecrawling around.
By the way, that croc is super cute and it's growling even even though its mouth isn'topen.

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So Cooper blows that croc up and all of a sudden it reappears and has that they thisinsert shot of these big fake diamond teeth.
And then the croc starts talking to Cooper complaining about how he looks.
He doesn't like it.
And so Cooper
says, well, I can fix that.
And he changes him into a half man, half Gator with Gator hands.

(01:50:37):
then the guy's Stephen stands up and goes, Stephen says, thank you, master.
I feel a lot better about this.
He feels a lot better about this now.
So Stephen's now in the right frame of mind for all that is to follow.
my God.
Oh, back in the other movie that's going on in this movie, Bruce closes in on Monica andhas to fight through a whole bunch of her vampires.

(01:51:00):
uh
They are so clumsy that they don't present any real challenge.
They're not vamp, they're zombies.
There's you're right.
There's zombies.
So there's also zombies in this movie.
There's also zombies.
Yeah, no, that's not the vampires.
It's the zombies.
Yeah.
I got, did get them confused cause.
there's a lot of fighting.
There's like, this is a straight action sequence.
I got a gym cotta where spinning, kicking, being thrown through foam doors.

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These things bleed green when he cuts them.
The skull comes flying around at some point again.
Monica's skull shows up for a little cameo.
Yeah.
So much Asian horror centers around bodily fluids.
Like that's something I found in this movie, you know, continues that.
there's just a lot of stuff, a lot of fluids, humors, humors in the medieval sense ofthat.

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ah Stephen and Don Moore have an extended martial arts fight for the control of Sea World.
Like this goes on.
a while.
I like when they show when they first come face to face.
Well, first of all, the professor tells Jack Cooper now has another crocodile spirit namedSteven, which is great.

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And then Jack's told he has to go to SeaWorld.
And then when they first see each other, you must be Don.
You must be Steven.
And they look the same except for their outfits, like their hair is done exactly the same.
It got incredibly confusing.
I'm like, maybe this is just the hairstyle for like crocodile related humans.

(01:52:34):
I don't know.
Yeah, no, I think that's just the, there's, there's, how many crocodiles stylists arethere down in sea world?
And Steven just the one possesses amazing powers.
And I don't know if this is due to his diamond teeth or what, but boy, can this guy pull aof.
tricks out of his bag, right?
yeah.
No, well again, in the consideration, in the original text that this was, that was foldedinto this, he was the original villain.

(01:52:59):
He was the original big bad from cry thong one.
He can disappear.
He multiply himself.
Yup.
Uh, I mean, and by the way, Jack upgrades his outfit before he goes.
never talk about gets this red outfit.
it's good.
He looks, he looks like something out of like a mortal combat.
He looks really cool.
Yes.
Yeah, no, no.
Oh, I, uh, no, no, I may be going, uh, I may be going as Jack from crocodile fury forHalloween this year.

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there's this point where Steven is besieged by all these little crocodiles that areclearly just like hung on his costume.
Amazing.
He's moving around.
And another Ed Wood reference guys, I could think of nothing other than Bail Vagosistruggling with the octopus.
Yeah.
it goes on.

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forever.
And then Jack just casually approaches him at some point and it like starts talking to himand though nothing unusual.
is most totally normal thing.
But what we skipped over is Jack uses a large candle to go down to Sea World and in theeffect is very remarkably like the parting of the Red Sea from sea subita mills to 10

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commandments with plenty of crocs in the water on either side.
I honestly first thought that they just jacked that shot and put some stuff over it.
I don't think so.
No, no, they did not.
But it is so evocative of that shot that I at first thought they were.
It's like his journey needs to be something really big and dramatic.

(01:54:30):
And then what's funny is that a substantial portion of this fight ends up just in thewater in that village.
So you could have just waited for this damn alligator to show up and you wouldn't have hadto part the seas and put on your sweet outfit.
Just chill and wait, Jack.
You don't need to go down to sea world.
Ultimately, it's not really that important to be down there, but it is.
around this area that I, the theme park popped in my mind again, where I think, cause wedidn't have our water ride.

(01:54:59):
I think our crocodile fury log flume leading to a crocodile fury water show.
I think that's the way to go.
No, I think that's just saw Waterworld when my son and I went to uh Universal.
that's the best stunt show of all time.
my God.
I couldn't believe it.
I mean, this movie, no one in the audience probably even knew what this movie was becauseit's Waterworld.

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The Universal Waterworld theme show is first class.
It is amazing.
It really was.
I mean, even the preamble where they were messing with the audience and spraying them withwater and stuff, it was the most engaging thing.
in the entire Universal experience for us.
And that was what we did at the very end before we left.
And I thought, man, what does Universal think?
I how many times can you imagine they must have tried to rebrand this thing?

(01:55:49):
Like come up with another story for this to relate to.
Keep the stunts, keep most of it what it is.
But damn it, guys, do we have to have this be bound to Waterworld of all things?
One of the greatest embarrassments of this studio's history.
But it's really incredible.
It really is.
really is.
Rob, I am absolutely on board with a show relating to this movie.

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Just imagine the elements that could be included here.
Flying crocodiles, the whole thing.
my God.
You know, using a guy as bait in a cage, like you at all.
floating on the platform with dude, they're doing the little Jack Black dance.
Yeah.
It's all of that.
Yeah.
It's, it's, yeah.
So Stephen, you know, Stephen's out of it for a little bit because he's still strugglingwith the crocodile on his back.

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And Jack just says to him, I'll come back for you later.
If they haven't eaten you alive.
Okay.
Don Moore changes into croc form and then Jack fights him.
And, and, you know, that seems to spill out into the village again, where, where Jack isjust on time.
know he's supposed to have a special weapon, but it really just seems like he's on top ofthis thing, stabbing it over and over and over again.

(01:57:02):
Like, you know, he is going to town on this croc on Don Moore.
He's just, he's just on top of it.
Um, again, this will all be in the, in the crocodile fury stunt spectacular at the end ofthe log.
uh So yeah, uh defeated Donmore changes back into a human, he's, he's got a crocodileclaws and tail.

(01:57:25):
Like he's kind of half and half at the end.
And then, and then, and then Jack goes to confront Cooper and Maria, but he doesn't getfar cause Steven shows up again and, and Steven uh gives Jack the most unconvincing
reassurance that he didn't rape Maria.
Like he says that and he says,
you know, but he admits to having taken liberties.

(01:57:46):
Uh, and then the two fight it out and, uh, Jack kill Steven and Maria's unconscious thiswhole time people she's laying on the bed per Monica's request or who, whatever her name's
request is.
And she's just been there, the victim of this guy this whole time, so that sets up whatwill happen in a minute here.
Yeah.
So the Jack kill Steven, who also turns back into a crocodile.

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I'm like, it's, it's,
I can all I can think of was live like a croc, die like a man.
Stephen has a seizure.
Stephen has a seizure of some kind.
And he drives dramatically as some kind of laser flash starts happening on his back.
I don't really know what the element was there.
And then his tail starts to get it like slowly becomes erect behind him.

(01:58:33):
And then he dies some more.
It's after that.
It's it's quite epic.
Something again in the context of the original
text, if I could put it that way, that was the villain of the first movie, the big bad ofthe first movie brought back into like, that's like Palpatine coming back in Star Wars.

(01:58:54):
And then, you know, you're going to give him another epic death, but better.
Nobody says, nobody says, look, Steven has returned.
Uh, you know, it's just, uh, yeah.
So that happened.
Maria in crocodile form returns Peggy to the village in her mouth.
Carries carries Peggy in her mouth and Jack comes back.

(01:59:15):
He thinks that Peggy's dead and then discovers that she's alive.
I don't know if Cooper ever gets killed.
I think I missed that.
it happened.
The professor kind of does something over Peggy and then she wakes up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
while the professor also chastises Jack for uh the worldly ways and desire for Peggy andall of that, right?

(01:59:36):
He's warned him.
Yeah, don't do that.
And there's this weird thing where the girls try to keep Jack away from the professor andthen this weird cartoony muted trumpet sound happens.
Did you guys catch that?
Yeah.
then Jack is frozen.
The trumpet sound happens.
The professor freezes Jack or the girls or maybe all three of them.

(02:00:01):
Yeah.
All three of them.
For no reason.
No, and then that's end of that movie.
And then he's unfrozen.
That's the end of that part.
But Monica is upset.
Well, yeah, we got to finish out Monica and her story because that's the bet where we'regoing to conclude.
So Monica's, she's pissed that Bruce killed all the zombies.
She's pissed.
uh And we know because she says so.

(02:00:24):
But there's also some vampires, some of the Zhang-Chi and Monica whips out these FreddyKrueger style finger knives.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
All right.
And then.
They all end up in a warehouse.
Which is...
What?
Where Bruce...
I think Shane Black did a polish on this.

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And we're introduced to this space by seeing Bruce in his Converse high tops.
is, has Chuck Taylors, And then more zombies show up and start dancing around.
One of them has a knife for some reason.
And then he has a fight with the zombies and then more zombies enter.
They break through a wall and then he throws a bomb at them.

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It looks like a sparkle, like a 4th July sparkler kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah.
And then he...
Then the vampires show up.
Then Monica shows up and she uses her nails and scratches his face.
And he doesn't go anywhere.
No, he just stands there and fucking takes it.
It's like a wrestling match where someone's doing a move and you're like, dude, just stepto the left.

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Do something.
But he's just like, ah, and she's there clawing away at him, clawing, clawing, clawing.
But then he grabs her hands and pulls her hands behind her.
And then her stomach bursts open and a baby flies out.
Mm-hmm, that happens.
That ha- and Bruce is kind of nonplussed by this.

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He's nonplussed by everything.
He handcuffs her.
Like he handcuffs her, like he caught her shoplifting.
And then Rudolph shows up, he appears and tries to shoot Bruce, but he misses and Brucekills him with, I think, a throwing star.
I wasn't quite clear.
I couldn't tell what that was.
Yeah.
And then he turns around and Monica's disappeared and only the handcuffs are left behind.

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And he looks so bored again.
It's like this shot of him just looking off like, huh?
And then sparklers start to go off like from the ceiling fans in this warehouse and theend.
And it's a red screen that says the end.
Red screen.
Guys, I have seen abrupt endings in movies before, but Crocodile Fury, it might exceedFrench Connection 2 as the abrupt ending of a motion picture I've ever seen.

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Abrupt and perplexing.
Yeah.
I mean, it's this movie is as close.
It's like a fever dream.
Yeah.
I think you're right.
said it's like it's something you put on in the back in a party and people would justcatch pieces of and be like, what is that?
But isn't it exciting to encounter something that seems so singular that yes, this bucketof insanity and take it all in, like you say, surrender yourself to it and just let it

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carry you away through the mad waters that are waiting for you.
It's a really remarkable experience.
It is.
And both of these movies today completely throw out sort of conventional story structure.
And it's interesting to me to contrast the two because Crocodile throws it out and becomesthis boring, turgid thing where things just happen.

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Crocodile Fury is never boring.
It will bury itself deep in your unconscious.
There's no way I'm not going to be having dreams about this movie.
in time to come.
Like it's just gonna, I'm gonna wake up and it's gonna be like, you know, the Hoppin'Vampires or Monica or, you know, the Croc people or, you know, whatever.

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It's just like, it's so fascinating.
And admittedly, the Crocodile Fury does not have a lot of Jaws DNA.
But it was- just gonna say that, yeah.
Yeah, but Crocodile Fury clearly, Crocodile, the first Crocodile clearly does.
Crocodile Fury,
You know, it's a little different, but it was a detour worth taking because it's so...

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When will we ever have a chance?
I guess if we did a Get Me Another Mr.
Vampire series, we might include it there too, but, but, you know, that, that would be alot of stuff to get to before that would happen.
But it's, it's something.
my God.
So guys, we've survived Crocodile and Crocodile Fury, and we're almost at the end of ourGet Me Another Jaws series.

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ah I mean...
We've been talking about volume two and I'm more keen on it than ever because there's somany of these types of movies that, yeah, we could do a volume two or even down the road
of volume three, could go on.
But next week we will come back to wrap up our Get Me Another Jaws series, or at leastthis initial volume, by moving back to more mainstream Hollywood fare with two animal

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attack movies from the nineties that paved the way for the genre.
moving into the 21st century.
So join us then as we explore 1997's Anaconda and from 1999, Deep Blue Sea.
And in addition, we'll be announcing what's coming up for the podcast, including somebonus episodes and our next series kicking off later this year.

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