In this week's episode of the ' Girl, We Grow Now' podcast, host Victoria welcomes Carly Mariotti for part one of an in-depth conversation about gut and hormonal health, exploring how these two vital systems impact our overall well-being. Carly shares insights into the factors influencing gut health, such as diet, sleep, exercise, and early-life experiences. She sheds light on how gut health influences our overall well-being and uncovers the interconnectedness between our gut microbiome and hormonal balance.
This deep dive into health awareness addresses the interplay of gut, hormones, serotonin, and autoimmune issues. This episode provides practical tips to navigate these factors for a healthier life. Carly breaks down complex health buzzwords such as estrogen dominance, microbiome, and serotonin, making health science accessible for every listener.
Additionally, we examine the role of inflammation in gut health and hormonal balance, highlighting the impact of stress and the importance of regular exercise in promoting gut health and reducing inflammation.
Make sure to tune into the full episode as we delve into the fascinating world of hormones and gut health, with the hopes of empowering you to take charge of your well-being and thrive from the inside out!
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And blood sugar is a huge source of inflammation in the body when it's imbalanced.
You know, our insulin levels and the whole party that that is,
is kind of a foundation to our hormone health.
Music.
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Hello, Grown Girl Gang. Welcome back to the Girl We Grow Now podcast.
I am your host, Victoria, and I am so grateful that you are tuning back in and joining me this week.
If you are looking for tips, advice, and or inspiration, then you are in the right place.
This podcast was created to help you navigate life and live your most fulfilled and authentic life.
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We have Carly Mariotti back on the podcast.
Last time she came on, we talked about somatic therapy and mindset.
So I will link that episode in our show notes just in case you missed it so
that you can go and give it a listen.
It was a really great episode. But today we are going to talk all about gut
and hormone health and detoxification.
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Welcome to the podcast, Parley. How are you? I'm so great. Thank you so much
for having me. It's great to see you again.
Yes, I'm so excited to have you on and talk about these topics.
So most people who have been tuning into my episodes know that I've been on
this gut and hormone healing journey.
So I think this is a really important topic to a lot of us. So I'm excited to
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get all the deets from you. Awesome. I'm so excited to be here too.
Yes. Okay. So let me ask you an icebreaker question.
I always ask all my guests an icebreaker question. So we'll start there and
then we'll get into the conversation. So.
What is your 2024 mantra or focus word that you are using to help you live your
most fulfilled life this year? I love that.
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So for me, the past few years and this year is no different has really been about trust,
trusting that everything is working out in defined timing, that everything that
your heart desires is going to be yours.
And it's really a matter of allowing that trust to fill you up rather than driving
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a force or really pushing for things, things like that. So patience and trust, I would say.
I think we all have things in our life that we wish had maybe progressed or
didn't happen or did happen, like whatever the situation may be with work,
school, relationships, things like that.
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And so, yeah, just trusting. Interesting. I love that. I think that's so huge.
When I think of that and the trust aspect, I also think about detachment.
I feel like if you trust that things are happening the way they're supposed
to, then it's a little bit easier to detach from outcomes and just be able to
be willing to accept what's meant to be.
So I love that. Oh, 100%. Yes.
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Okay. So let's get right into it. What are the key factors that influence our gut health?
I feel like it's easier to list the things that don't.
Literally everything affects our gut health our gut health really drives our
overall health and well-being so it is affected by everything so i'll kind of
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start with some of the things that we may not
necessarily think of. Everybody knows diet, of course.
Things like sleep and exercise may or may not be at the forefront when we think
of things that affect our gut health.
But some things that are somewhat out of our control would be something like,
did your mother breastfeed you?
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Did she have a vaginal birth or a C-section?
With the breastfeeding thing, it's not only are you getting probiotics from
the milk supply itself, but you're also actually getting probiotics from skin-to-skin contact.
Having that during a time where the baby is also being soothed is a really important
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thing for growing the gut health, growing the immune system to be strong, things like that.
Also, things like environmental toxins. Are we being exposed to something like mold from a a building?
Are we being exposed to heavy metals?
Are we being exposed to pesticides?
And the answer for all of those for pretty much everybody is going to be yes.
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So it's more of a matter of maximizing our detoxification system,
not avoiding them completely because you'll drive yourself crazy.
Yeah, that's so wild to think that it really start before we even can before
we even know what gut health is.
It's also empowering for women to think about these things because maybe your mother didn't know.
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She probably didn't. If you're listening to this podcast, the microbiome is
literally like, we've only really been talking about it for like 50 years.
So there's a good chance that your mom had no idea that these things could influence
the microbiome for her baby's entire life.
Our microbiomes are actually very difficult to change after the year two or
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three, which is wild to think about.
But it's empowering for women who are wanting to have children in the future
because this is just a force to think about when you're making decisions like that.
Yeah, I think that's a great point to make. Knowledge is power.
Now that we know it's something, like you said, that we can make that change
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for our future generation that we create.
So how does the gut microbiome impact overall health, especially in women? So many ways.
So the gut microbiome is really our second brain and there's so much communication
happening between the gut.
And the brain. There's actually more communication coming from our enterocytes,
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which are the gut cells to the brain than from the brain to the gut,
which is so insane to think about.
But we're constantly getting communication from our gut. So the microbiome is
this collection of microbes, mostly bacteria, some fungi, some yeast,
some parasites thrown in there.
Like not all of these these things are bad, you're not going to be able to avoid the parasites.
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I know that's a really trending thing right now. We're not going to be able
to avoid them at all times.
And actually, at one time, parasites were very helpful and they can be helpful
because they actually can eat
up things like candida and some of those overgrowth that we don't want.
But when the parasites and candida and things like that get overgrown,
that's when we run into to issues.
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But the microbiome affects our hormones because there's actually a subset of
the microbes called the astrobalone.
They have a huge influence on our estrogen levels.
So that's another kind of buzzword that's going around estrogen dominance and
everybody wants to like get their estrogen levels checked and keep them low and things like that.
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But the astrobalone, they produce an enzyme called beta-glucuronidase.
And this enzyme is literally what determines whether or not our estrogen is
recirculated and reused, which can then cause things like that estrogen dominance.
Or if that estrogen is detoxed,
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and then it exits through the bowels. So if we've got a good,
healthy environment, then estrogen dominance should really never be an issue for us.
Now, there are, of course, other factors that influence estrogen and how much
we have in the body, but we'll talk about that later too, I'm sure.
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All of that is really interesting because I know when I started seeing my functional
medicine doctor, that is something that I was told that I had estrogen estrogen dominant.
And then after that, I did my gut test, which I told you about last time you
were on and I sent you my results.
But I did my gut test and I did find out that I had an overgrowth of bad bacteria.
And I think my immune system was inflamed and a few other things.
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It's just all so interesting to think how the hormones in the gut are so closely
connected because I think before I started seeing a functional medicine doctor,
I would have had no idea. Right.
Yeah. And you mentioned the immune system. So that's another huge way that the
gut influences our overall health.
The gut and the immune system, it's all one thing. It really can't be separated.
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You can't have a healthy or an unhealthy gut and have a healthy immune system.
And this would be definitely another topic or another podcast episode,
but autoimmune issues, there's always, always a gut component.
They don't exist without each other.
So if you're someone with an autoimmune condition, it doesn't matter what it is.
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It doesn't have to be a gut related autoimmune condition like you see your Crohn's
or something like that. It could be Hashimoto's or RA.
Those, just because it's just your thyroid with Hashimoto's doesn't mean that
your gut isn't involved.
Other ways that it affects our health. So this is another, I keep touching on these trends, but.
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You know, there's a lot of clarification that I find needs to be said about some of these things.
So 90 to 95% of our serotonin is produced in the gut.
And people think, oh my gosh, well, that's why I have mood issues.
And yes, your gut is totally related to your mood issues, but the serotonin
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in your gut doesn't actually pass the blood brain barrier.
So it actually is very different than the serotonin that's in our brain affecting our mood or our mindset.
The serotonin in our gut actually has more to do with peristalsis,
which is the movement of fecal matter through your bowels.
So how quickly or how slowly are you moving that fiber,
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that food through your bowels, which this can lead to things like constipation
or loose stools, some of those those really obvious gut issues can result from
too much or too little serotonin.
Serotonin actually also affects how we perceive pain in the gut.
So if you have too much serotonin, you might actually be more prone to some
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of those stomach issues or tummy troubles, like my stomach hurts right now.
Or if you don't have enough serotonin, you might not perceive that you have
pain in your gut and you might never even relate it to a gut issue.
So it can be really tricky with that serotonin piece.
Wow. I have a quick question about serotonin. So you mentioned stomach pain.
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So is that connected to cramping that we experience when we're PMSing or is
that a little bit different?
Actually, you know, that's a really good question that I don't actually know
the answer to, but I'm willing to say that they would be connected.
I don't know exactly how much. When you are PMSing, when you're cramping from
your period, what's happening is the endometrial lining is shutting.
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So naturally there is going to be like a little bit of pain.
I mean, I know that everybody wants like a pain-free period and like,
yes, your period should not be, you shouldn't be missing work.
You shouldn't have to like stay home on the couch all day. Like you might feel
like it, but you shouldn't be forced to in that situation.
When you're having excess pain,
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there is an issue typically with estrogen dominance, but that's usually...
And we'll touch a little bit on this later as well, but estrogen is a growth hormone.
So estrogen is growing your endometrial lining, getting ready for implantation.
That's how the baby will stay nice and cushy when you get pregnant.
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If you get pregnant during that cycle, if you don't get pregnant during that
cycle, that lining is what sheds and that is our bleed.
So if you have a lot of estrogen producing a lot of growth in this lining,
then you're going to have a heavier bleed and it might be more painful.
So having a good balance of estrogen is what's going to manage most of the pain that we're having.
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Although I am willing to bet that you're onto something with that because the
endometrial lining is the uterus and the uterus is right with the gut,
like all of that, the immune system,
that's all one big thing right here in our abdomen, right? So yeah,
that's a great question.
Yeah. I'm always so curious because I don't have the most painful periods,
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but I think that, well, I'm assuming because you just mentioned estrogen dominance,
that probably makes mine a little bit more painful than they would be.
But yeah, so I'm always very interested in what causes those different symptoms
that some of us have and some of us don't.
So let's talk about diet. What role does diet play when it comes to our gut and hormone health?
Oh my gosh. Diet is almost everything. everything.
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I would say stress and diet are the two biggest things that affect our gut health
and our overall health and well-being.
So when it comes to diet, a couple things come to mind. Number one, fiber.
We have to have fiber in our diet to, number one, to bulk up our stool and move
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things in a timely manner.
You pretty much want your food to be ingested and out of you within about 16 to 18 hours.
It's like a really beautiful window.
Anything less than 12 hours, you're looking at too quick of a time.
And then anything over 24, that's far too long to be in the gut.
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So that window, but any anywhere between 12 to 24 hours is okay.
So fiber is what helps us manage that time.
So things like legumes, fresh fruits and vegetables, those are my favorite forms of fiber.
I don't love grains for fiber.
There's too much inflammation that happens with grains, in my opinion,
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and a lot of other people would agree with this, but if you're going to do grains, moderation.
So what about, what's a popular one? I think there's a popular grain that I
feel like people in the health field, brownie.
Sourdough. Oh, sourdough. There you go. Sourdough is actually what I was thinking.
Yeah. So sourdough, another craze right now.
So sourdough is going to be better than white bread sourdough has bacteria that
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have digested some of the gluten so it's easier for you to digest,
I would say that sourdough is not going to be, first of all,
there's a couple of things.
Anytime you're using a bleached flour, you really want to get quality.
You want to get not only organic, but I'm also going to recommend glyphosate free.
I won't expand too much on glyphosate right now, but we'll get into it.
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Glyphosate is going to really harm the bacteria in your gut.
And so that's one reason that I would say look for a glyphosate free flour.
If you're going to be working with it.
But I mean, I think sourdough, again, in moderation, it's not going to be something
that you want to do daily.
Definitely not like multiple times a day. All of those grains,
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I would just say with a grain of salt.
Love the pun. But yeah, other things in your diet. So the fiber is a really big one.
You want to do the fiber additionally because fiber is going to bind to toxins.
It's going to grow the microbiome in a healthy way as long as like we said,
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like you're avoiding things like glyphosate and pesticides. What about the supplements?
Like I know some people take fiber supplement or they feel like they're not
getting a lot. Is that going to have the same effect as the food?
Yeah. So fiber supplements can be really great as well.
Most fiber supplements don't really have a flavor so in
my opinion like there's no need to like look for all
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that like extra flavor and like jazz that's
added to it i like something called sun fiber
it's unique type of fiber that's really safe for anyone who does have digestive
issues because fiber ironically it's so helpful for the gut but it's actually
something that can really cause a lot of the gas and bloating and some of those digestive issues.
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So it's a double-edged sword for people who are struggling with their gut health to get enough fiber.
So that's when I personally think that it's the best for those types of people
to supplement with fiber.
Other than that, I really think that most people can aim to get it from their diet.
And the beauty in that too is if you are eating lots of fruits and and vegetables
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and you're filling up on fiber because fiber is very satiating.
It's going to make you feel full for a really long time, which is,
you know, great for blood sugar and weight management and everything like that.
But because of that, you're not going to be reaching for those sweets after your meals.
Or if you are, you're going to be satisfied with like a couple of pieces of dark chocolate.
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You know, you're not going to be wanting that big bowl of ice cream.
You're not going to be going to the pantry for potato chips and snacks and things
like that because you're satiated.
So it's kind of this crowding owl principle where eat more of the healthy foods
and you're going to eat less of unhealthy foods, right? Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah. So other things that are super important for gut health, I would say amino acids.
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And I love recommending people do either bone broth or meat broth,
depending on where you are in your healing journey.
These can be super, super powerful elixirs for the gut because they contain
lots of amino acids, lots of minerals, things like glucosamine from cartilage.
So glucosamine I mean, is an end product that we get from things like cartilage
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or some of the soft tissue from animal products.
And it only exists in animal products. It's similar to collagen.
So collagen is also contained in these broths. And those are amazing for healing
leaky gut and sealing the gut.
Also providing those enterocytes, those gut cells with fuel that they need to run on.
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How do you eat your own broth or drink it, I should say? because I tried to
drink it and I didn't love it.
I know my coworker actually told me that she cooks her rice in it,
but how do you usually take your bone broth?
So I'm obsessed with bone broth.
I love the taste of it. What type did you have? Was it beef or chicken?
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I can't remember if it was beef or chicken. I remember the brand, it was Kettle and Fire.
So I don't know if there's a brand you suggest, but yeah. Okay, so a couple of things.
I think homemade broth is like so much better.
And you're gonna get like down here, I think those brands are like $10.
Wait, that was years ago. That was pre COVID.
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I haven't bought this since before COVID. They're probably $12 or $13 for like a 32 ounce.
I can almost buy an entire pasture raised chicken for that much.
And then I'm getting the meat so you You can like roast your chicken.
I actually do mine in a little like electric smoker that I have.
So then I get smoked bone broth, which I really like. That sounds really good.
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It is. It adds like a really, really nice flavor to it.
So then you're getting like all of that meat and you're getting the bone broth.
So I always say, especially, I think everybody is kind of trying to be on a
budget right now. It's 2024.
So if you can do the whole animal...
You're going to, you're definitely going to save yourself some money,
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but I, I do just drink like bone broth plain things that you can add to it.
If you're like not thrilled on the flavor, I would say like fresh rosemary would
be a really great herb to add some fresh sage or even some just ground sage.
And then if you've got like turkey broth, that's like, to me,
like Thanksgiving in a cup.
Okay but you can do like lots of garlic
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ginger you can add like a bunch
of roasted or like just like raw veggies and like
cook the veggies in it and then just have like essentially just like a brothy
vegetable side if you want to do it that way another thing and i don't know
because i love them both but i don't know if you might like a meat broth better
than a bone broth the meat Meat broth definitely has a lot more flavor to it.
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And that one is actually going to be higher in the nutrients needed for healing the gut.
Whereas the bone broth is a little bit higher in nutrients that are kind of
just going to give you fuel to remineralize your body. So both are good.
I would say the meat broth is more for someone in those more acute stages where
they're really focusing on healing.
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The bone broth would be like later stages.
Okay, that makes sense. And then I would say like the last piece of the diet,
and I mean, there's, we could go, we could literally talk about this,
the whole podcast, but the diet piece, just anything that ramps up your detox,
because again, your detoxification system, your immune system,
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your gut, like it's, it's really all one piece with different parts.
So things that are high in B vitamins, eggs.
Red meat, you really want to look for like B3, B6, B9, which is folate,
not to be confused with folic acid. They're not the same thing.
And in fact, folic acid will bind to your folate receptors and block any folate from coming in.
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Oh, so just to go a little bit further down that sourdough rabbit hole with
the word fine grains, there's lots of reasons why I want to,
you know, to influence people to avoid these refined grains.
But one reason is that they're enriched with these vitamins, but.
They're enriched with a synthetic form of vitamins like folic acid.
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So if you are ingesting a ton of folic acid through refined grains or a prenatal
that has folic acid or just a B complex that has folic acid,
and then you're wanting to increase your detox by eating lots of folate rich foods.
So liver is probably the best source.
Greens like kale, collards, spinach, those all have a lot of folate in them,
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your body's not going to be able to use that folate because your receptors are bound up by folic acid.
And folic acid's not really going to get the same job done as folate.
So that's another piece.
Like I said, we could go down so many rabbit holes with this,
but I'll leave it with that.
But B12 is also really important for detox.
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Minerals like copper, pepper, selenium, magnesium, of course.
I mentioned the amino acids. All of these are necessary for phase one and phase
two of your liver detoxification.
So really important to get those from your diet.
Nice. So I know you mentioned magnesium and I know you mentioned getting it
from food, but is it any magnesium?
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Because I know like I take magnesium glycinate and it helps me sleep.
So I don't know if that's the magnesium or does it matter? Yeah,
so that's a great question.
Magnesium, unfortunately, like most of our minerals are really being depleted from our soil.
This is, again, pesticides are a really big part of why this is happening.
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Things like monocropping, which is growing the same crops on the same land year
after year and not rotating crops, like the land, you know, that was how things were meant to be.
So these are depleting the nutrients in the soil, minerals, probiotics alike, both of them. And,
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It's basically rendering our soil like dead rather than like this living thing
with all of these nutrients.
So magnesium is one of those that, you know, it's been being depleted in our soil.
So I do recommend supplementing with magnesium.
And the magnesium glycinate is a really good one. I supplement with magnesium glycinate as well.
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Good. I'm obsessed. I feel like I get the best sleep.
Right. Right. Yeah. So speaking of detox and supplements, are there any additional
supplements that we can take or that you recommend typically for your clients?
Yeah, definitely. So we haven't really touched on this and we probably will,
I'm sure, because it's bound to come up.
But stress is such a big reason why people end up with gut issues.
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This job that's draining you, the divorce, the kids, financial situations.
I mean, There's so many stressors in our day-to-day lives, in addition to some
of those things that can cause chronic stress.
So I recommend if that is you, if you're like, yep, I definitely recommend finding
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an adaptogenic herb that works well for you.
And it might take you a little bit to really feel out how something is affecting
you because herbs are not like pharmaceuticals.
It might take three weeks. it might take three months for you to really feel something from an herb.
And that's because it's really like changing our whole physiology, right?
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So like, it's not just like supplementing something really quickly to like fix
an issue. It's a holistic approach.
So adaptogenic herbs that I love, I personally love holy basil,
more Tulsi, same thing, but a lot of people really like ashwagandha.
Okay, I was just gonna ask if that was one.
Yep. Yeah. So those are really really great for adrenal health and stress relief,
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helping you just like cope with stressors more easily and feeling more resilient to stressors.
Yeah, that's definitely a huge one.
Yes. And then things like dandelion root are really great for the liver,
milk thistle for the liver, yellow dock root, some of those are really great for liver health.
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So for me, I definitely don't mind taking supplements, but I know sometimes
I'm just not that consistent.
So when we're thinking about adding in supplements, like is there kind of like
strategy that we should use?
Because I think adding in everything is probably going to be hard.
So how do you usually guide people to like get more consistent with taking their
supplements and their vitamins and things?
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Definitely. I definitely recommend doing one one or two at a time and,
you know, not going crazy because you also want to know, like,
is this supplement benefiting me?
Am I feeling better on it? Is it actually doing anything?
If not, maybe it's not the right one for you. Maybe you need to check out a different brand.
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Like there's so many different factors with that. I also like,
as far as like compliance with my clients,
I always recommend depending on how many supplements they're taking and getting
like like a little pill organizer where it's got, you know, each day of the week on it.
You know, you can get the bigger ones that, you know, have three compartments
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for the day. So you've got your morning, afternoon, and evening.
And those can, you can take them out and put them in your purse.
Other things, you know, you can put a widget on your phone. You can do an alarm.
If you work at home all day and you want to like keep your supplements on your
desk at work, like that could be a good strategy. It's like insight in mind, right?
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Yeah. So put them places that you're going to see them, you know,
your bathroom counter when you wake up in the morning or kitchen counter when
you're making your tea in the morning, something like that.
Yeah, those are really good tips. So speaking of supplements,
let's talk about probiotics. So what role does that play in maintaining gut health?
And are there any specific strains that are probably the most beneficial for women? Yeah.
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Awesome question. Okay. So, well, first of all, let's kind of define probiotics
because most people nowadays, we think of probiotics as this little pill. Yes, I do.
But probiotics, like I mentioned, they originated in our soil.
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That's the original probiotic. And so if we live in accordance with the way our ancestors said,
we would be fermenting foods, we would be pulling food from the ground,
we probably wouldn't be scrubbing them clean,
like we'd probably eat some of that soil.
And that's how we would maintain our gut health.
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So a couple things with that i
think we could all probably do a little bit
more of those things especially when it
comes to fermenting foods i farm out foods there's
always something fermenting in my kitchen but i honestly love it and it's fun
it's rewarding because sometimes you're waiting like a couple weeks on this
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sauerkraut to finish or a couple days for this kimchi and like it's fun but
then you get to play around with flavors you know bragging about like like,
oh, I made this or like my sauerkraut's better than store-bought.
But the other thing with probiotics, obviously, like we want to have some of
those in our diet, we might need to supplement with probiotic pills,
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capsules, and especially for people dealing with chronic gut issues.
That's definitely, you know, I very rarely have somewhat, you know,
a gut issue with a client who I'm not going to supplement with,
but for long-term success,
like getting back into those ancestral type of, you know, just way of living.
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But on this piece, I have to, I have to dive deeper into the glyphosate issue.
So glyphosate is the main ingredient in Roundup.
It's one of the most used pesticides, herbicides in our country.
It's illegal in a lot of other countries. Wow.
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And glyphosate has been linked to non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and many other issues.
It is absolute poison for our gut and our overall health.
Glyphosate was originally patented as an antibiotic, and it's literally being
sprayed on our food. So every time you eat something with glyphosate that's
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been sprayed on it, you're ingesting an antibiotic.
And I don't know how much your listeners know about antibiotics,
but a single round of antibiotics can affect the gut microbiome for up to two years.
Wow. So we don't want to be taking antibiotics like they're given out like candy,
which is how they are in the medical system.
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Yes. They even give them to kids for like everything. And I know I feel like
my friend always gets them from her doctor whenever she's like really sick. So yeah. Yeah.
They're everywhere. And we definitely don't want to be ingesting antibiotics
on our food on a daily basis.
Now, glyphosate use is so widespread that it's not really avoidable at this
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point, but the best we can do is at least try to avoid it.
And then like I said, supplement with fermented foods.
So avoiding glyphosate is going to be looking for organic fruits and vegetables.
One really big issue with glyphosate is cattle and poultry that are fed soy
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and corn and wheat, but they're all sprayed with glyphosate.
So when we feed our animals these foods, then their microbiome is changed.
That changes all of their physiology, their immune system, their mineral status, everything.
And then that's going to affect us. So I really recommend looking for organic grass fed cattle.
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So you're at least limiting that glyphosate exposure.
And then the other part of your question was the strains that are most helpful
for women. So there was so many strains that are really beneficial for specific
things that we're looking for. I think a lot of women...
Right now are dealing with fatigue. A lot of people, women and men both are
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dealing with blood sugar issues.
So I definitely want to mention acromantia, myosophila.
This one is a probiotic that usually when we test the guts of anyone who's got
a metabolic issue like obesity obesity or diabetes,
they're super, super low in this particular strain.
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And so we know that this strain has a really huge profound effect on our blood sugar status.
And so if you're someone who does deal with blood sugar issues,
and you're eating well, maybe you're low in this one strain,
and that's why you can't kind of get a hold on those blood sugar issues.
So I want to mention in that one.
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The other two are really mostly pertaining to vaginal health.
So lactobacillus, crispaceous, I hope I'm saying these right. They have crazy names.
And then another one in the lactobacillus family, rhamnosus GG.
And the reason the lactobacillus are so great for the vaginal microbiome,
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the vagina is actually slightly acidic.
And so the lactobacillus bacteria, The ones that we get fermented foods are
going to produce lactic acid, which, as the name suggests, is also acidic.
So that's going to be a really good number one pH balancer.
And I'm sure all your women listeners have heard balancing your pH is,
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you know, the vaginal pH is huge.
If you get too alkaline, then you can get things like yeast overgrowth,
bacterial overgrowth, things that you definitely don't want.
And so the lactic acid will keep that pH in a healthy range.
And then also the bacteria is like the good bacteria that you do want because,
you know, the vagina, much like the gut, has its own microbiome and you want
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to make sure that you keep that healthy while we're on that topic.
If you have an unhealthy gut, it's going to be really hard to maintain a healthy vaginal microbiome.
So the two are definitely intertwined. And yeah.
Well, I am going to have to get you to message me the names of those probiotics
so I can include it in the show notes.
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But yeah, I've always been so curious about which ones to get.
So I think that's really helpful.
So how does chronic inflammation, I feel like we've all heard about inflammation
in the last few years, which I mean, it's necessary because I think a lot of us suffer from it.
But how does that affect our gut health and hormones?
So I really say it's kind of the other way around. How does our gut health affect inflammation?
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Let's talk about inflammation really quick. So inflammation isn't all bad, right?
Like we need a little bit of inflammation in order for the body to heal anything
because that's actually the ignition to healing.
When it becomes an issue, is when there's chronic inflammation that the body
can't handle, it's too much inflammation, it just can't stay on top of it.
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And that typically will happen with, I would say, two major things,
stress, you know, stress that's not managed well, and then toxic overload.
So this could be from that glyphosate exposure, this could be from heavy metals,
this could be from mold exposure.
So those are all exogenous things, things from our environment that are affecting
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our body. This could also be infection.
So if you are someone who's dealt with gut issues, things like SIBO,
IBS, things that are driven by the gut microbiome being imbalanced,
then that's going to cause a lot of endotoxicity.
So biotoxins from within the body, not only when When bacteria and microbes
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die, do they produce things like LPS, which is lipohalic saccharides,
which are inflammatory by nature.
But just having those microbes living inside of you, they're going to be producing toxic substances.
You know, I mean, it's kind of weird to think about bacteria like pooping,
but bacteria will produce waste, ammonia, things like that.
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So that's going to really, really drive up inflammation.
I would say those are like the major sources of inflammation and that majorly influences gut health.
There's actually not a single inflammatory condition.
So inflammatory conditions include basically all of the chronic conditions.
So obesity, RA, diabetes, any autoimmune condition, those are all inflammatory conditions.
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Even things like autism, ADHD, various mood disorders, all of those have been shown by research.
To all have a gut component. Every single one of them, there's an imbalance in the gut.
So we know that that's one of the major drivers of these inflammatory conditions.
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In order to obviously reverse them, you're going to have to look at the gut.
Wow. So what about sugar? Because I guess, I don't know, when I think of chronic
inflammation, for somebody who's been thinking about sugar, I don't know if
I should not be, but does that drive up inflammation?
Oh yeah, absolutely. So So sugar, I would say, again, everything in moderation,
like I'm not here telling you to never have a cookie again.
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But everything in moderation, sugar, obviously, the name says it,
sugar is going to affect your blood sugar.
And blood sugar is a huge source of inflammation in the body when it's imbalanced.
And blood sugar, you know, our insulin levels and the whole kind party that
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that is, is kind of a foundation to our hormone health.
It's very difficult to achieve balanced estrogen and progesterone to have a
healthy pregnancy or have strong and vital fertility.
If you don't have that blood sugar balance in check, if you're constantly going
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on blood sugar roller coasters where it's dipping super low and then it's super
high, you're dealing dealing with fatigue issues, that is going to really drive up inflammation.
So that would be the major thing that comes to mind when I think about sugar.
But again, sugar and refined carbs, that flour, it's all the same.
It's all inflammatory by nature because it's a processed food.
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Good to know. So what about exercise? What role does that play in supporting
all of these things. Yes.
Exercise and gut health have kind of like this bi-directional communication.
So first of all, we talked a little bit about perispalsis and like how easily
and quickly your food is moving through the GI tract.
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So essentially like how regular are you?
Are you having a bowel movement as many times as you eat?
Because that's really where you should be at.
Hopefully you're at least having a bowel movement every day.
I'd say there still needs to be some work done if that if that's you.
But if you're someone who's not having a bowel movement every day,
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it's maybe every other day, every couple of days, one of the first things I'm
going to tell you to do is exercise and exercise regularly, because that's literally
going to keep you regular.
And in terms of bowel movements, exercise, I think everybody's probably like
had that really good workout or gone for a run or even just a walk and your
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mood is like you've done a 180.
Maybe you needed a mood lifter or you just noticed that you are a lot happier
after that exercise, after whatever you've done.
So we know that the mood component of exercise is a huge piece.
And we also know that the gut majorly influences our mood. So that kind of is all one piece as well.
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Wow. I'm someone I love to work out in the morning because I feel like it does
help me start my day off with the right mindset and the right attitude.
So yeah, I feel like it's such a mood booster.
As you said, even if I just go outside and go on a walk, the fact that I got
outside and felt fresh air, the sun, I'm in Florida, so the sun's always beaming.
But yes, I feel like it's such a mood changer and honestly a game changer because
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when I don't work out in the mornings.
I feel like my day drags and I am just, as my manager would say, I'm just sassy.
I honestly, I feel the same way.
And I don't always like make sure that I get like a workout in,
but some sort of movement,
you know, it can be five or 10 minutes of like abs or yoga or just something
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to get your blood flowing. That's huge. Definitely.
So what are some of of the common symptoms of gut dysfunction in women and how
can we start addressing them?
So I think some of the obvious gut dysfunction symptoms are things like constipation.
And I already kind of defined that.
But just again, like if you're not going at a minimum once a day, you are constipated.
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Even if you are going once a day, I still consider that constipation.
I want my clients going every meal that they
eat like not immediately you know because that
that could be an issue too but i want you going two to three times
a day obviously on the opposite end of that diarrhea
or loose stools any like bloating or gas just cramping just pain in your stomach
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those are some of the obvious gut dysfunction symptoms other than that any hormonal
imbalances if you've got fertility issues you might want to look into your gut
health if you're having having estrogen dominance,
you definitely want to look into your gut health.
Any mood disorders, anxiety, depression, even again, back to like,
the hormonal health, if you're having like major mood swings during your cycle,
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like most likely right before your period, or you're like uncontrollably crying,
or like you just can't keep your mood together.
Those are some major signs that there's some hormonal imbalances and almost
guarantee there's going to be a gut component to it.
Not always, but most of the time.
I think that's really important because I don't think I've ever really connected
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them that much hormones and gut yeah yeah really
all has to do with the detoxification system we
kind of touch on that but yeah i think like managing
this number one is going to be stress if you are chronically stressed it's going
to be so hard to get on top of your hormonal symptoms and your gut symptoms
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so i'm speaking to myself when i say this because stress was the number one
driver for me with all of the issues that I had.
And so managing that, working on somatic therapy and trauma release and all
of these things were such a big part of my healing.
And so I really want to drive that home for people.
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You know, if you are someone dealing with a lot of stress, like figure out what
it's going to take to get you to a more level mood, a more level way of living,
whether again, Again, like I said, breath work, yoga,
mineral balancing, all of these things are so important.
It's a holistic approach, you know?
Yeah. So when I think of stress, sometimes I know that my job,
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it's a lot, so it can be stressful, but sometimes I feel like I have trouble
figuring out, am I really stressed?
I don't know if you ever hear that, but sometimes I feel like I have trouble
figuring out, am I stressed?
Am I tired? What is it? I have no idea. So I don't know if you have any tips,
but how have you helped your clients kind of decipher if they're stressed?
That's an excellent question. A lot of the time, And I think this is so common now.
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A lot of the time, we don't even know if we're in this chronic state of stress
or not, because we're so used to it.
And I don't know if that's exactly what you're saying.
Probably so. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, we are really used to this really stressed out life.
You know, there's so many things that we have to handle on a day to day basis.
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So you can, you know, there are different tests that you can run,
you can look at your cortisol throughout the day and see if you're you've got
good levels in the morning.
And then if they're tapering off at night, like that would be a sign of well managed stress.
What do you use to measure cortisol during the day? So cortisol is going to
be best measured with your saliva.
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You can also use your urine. Both of those would work.
The only issue with that, you definitely want to do saliva first thing in the
morning because you're going to want to get a reading like before you get out
of bed and then about an hour after you wake and then one around like,
you know, mid afternoon and then evening and night.
So you're not going to do a urine test in bed.
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So the saliva is going to be the best one for that.
You can do this at home? Yeah. Yeah. So this would be a test that you get at home.
You've got all the things you need and you just do tests and then.
Okay. The other test I really like for, and this is going to be more of like
a big picture of your stress because that cortisol, unless you wanted to repeat
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it, you're really only getting one day of cortisol.
Your cortisol can fluctuate. It won't fluctuate that much, but again,
Again, it's going to be one day or a couple of days. We can say that.
The other one I love is the hair tissue mineral analysis.
This is going to be kind of our stress response and how our adrenals are handling
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things because we're getting basically we're getting a snapshot of three months of your minerals.
And so this test, again, like it's going to give you more of like,
are you in this really high stress state? Are you in a state where you're kind
of like coming off of that stress?
Or are you in this state where you have been stressed for a long time?
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So it gives you more of a kind of a more broad picture of what your stress has
been like. So I really like that one.
And that's actually a really affordable functional test.
You know, a lot of them cost quite a bit of money and that can be a barrier
for people. But the Heritation Mineral Analysis gives us a lot of information.
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With, you know, does it cost Norman a leg? The other thing, I'll just throw
this in there. I love the HTMA,
hair tissue mineral analysis for heavy metals, because that's such a big component
of, again, our exogenous toxicity.
So getting hold of some of those heavy metals and pulling them out of the tissues
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can be monumental for gut health, stress, fertility, hormones, everything.
Yeah, I think that's really huge. Now I want to take the HTMA, you said?
I want to take that now, house I probably will yeah and
another really great thing about that test is it's non-invasive so
there's no needles and blood work you don't
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even have to leave your house I literally send you
an envelope with instructions you cut a chunk of your hair out like a small
chunk you know and you're not gonna look bald or anything and you send it in
so that is really that's really nice because I just recently did a food sensitivity
test and you have to like prick your finger I I hate blood.
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It took me like I had to do deep breaths. I was trying to prick my finger and
I had to call my dad in because anyway, so I'm just like, okay,
anything that doesn't involve blood and needles, like I'm here for it.
Well, especially like pricking it yourself. That's hard.
Yeah, because I'm just that's just not my thing. But I mean,
obviously, I got through it. But this test just sounds so much easier.
So it's kind of nice. So sensitivity testing, I like to use bioenergetic testing,
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which is I'm not familiar with that kind of complicated.
I won't get into the science, but basically it's quantum physics that like test
your frequency versus food and other things,
toxins and things like that to see if there's like resonance or if there's like dissonance between it.
And then it will tell us like whether or not you essentially like the frequency
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of your cells are going to like accept the frequency of said food item.
Wow, that sounds really interesting.
It's really cool. cool. It sounds really cool.
All right, Grown Girl Gang, that was part one of the conversation that I had with Carly. Stay tuned.
Next week, I will release part two. Follow the podcast so that you don't miss
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Music.
And blood sugar is a huge source of inflammation in the body when it's imbalanced.
You know, our insulin levels and the whole party that that is,
is kind of a foundation to our hormone health.
Music.
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Hello, Grown Girl Gang. Welcome back to the Girl We Grow Now podcast.
I am your host, Victoria, and I am so grateful that you are tuning back in and joining me this week.
If you are looking for tips, advice, and or inspiration, then you are in the right place.
This podcast was created to help you navigate life and live your most fulfilled and authentic life.
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We have Carly Mariotti back on the podcast.
Last time she came on, we talked about somatic therapy and mindset.
So I will link that episode in our show notes just in case you missed it so
that you can go and give it a listen.
It was a really great episode. But today we are going to talk all about gut
and hormone health and detoxification.
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Welcome to the podcast, Parley. How are you? I'm so great. Thank you so much
for having me. It's great to see you again.
Yes, I'm so excited to have you on and talk about these topics.
So most people who have been tuning into my episodes know that I've been on
this gut and hormone healing journey.
So I think this is a really important topic to a lot of us. So I'm excited to
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get all the deets from you. Awesome. I'm so excited to be here too.
Yes. Okay. So let me ask you an icebreaker question.
I always ask all my guests an icebreaker question. So we'll start there and
then we'll get into the conversation. So.
What is your 2024 mantra or focus word that you are using to help you live your
most fulfilled life this year? I love that.
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So for me, the past few years and this year is no different has really been about trust,
trusting that everything is working out in defined timing, that everything that
your heart desires is going to be yours.
And it's really a matter of allowing that trust to fill you up rather than driving
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a force or really pushing for things, things like that. So patience and trust, I would say.
I think we all have things in our life that we wish had maybe progressed or
didn't happen or did happen, like whatever the situation may be with work,
school, relationships, things like that.
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And so, yeah, just trusting. Interesting. I love that. I think that's so huge.
When I think of that and the trust aspect, I also think about detachment.
I feel like if you trust that things are happening the way they're supposed
to, then it's a little bit easier to detach from outcomes and just be able to
be willing to accept what's meant to be.
So I love that. Oh, 100%. Yes.
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Okay. So let's get right into it. What are the key factors that influence our gut health?
I feel like it's easier to list the things that don't.
Literally everything affects our gut health our gut health really drives our
overall health and well-being so it is affected by everything so i'll kind of
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start with some of the things that we may not
necessarily think of. Everybody knows diet, of course.
Things like sleep and exercise may or may not be at the forefront when we think
of things that affect our gut health.
But some things that are somewhat out of our control would be something like,
did your mother breastfeed you?
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Did she have a vaginal birth or a C-section?
With the breastfeeding thing, it's not only are you getting probiotics from
the milk supply itself, but you're also actually getting probiotics from skin-to-skin contact.
Having that during a time where the baby is also being soothed is a really important
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thing for growing the gut health, growing the immune system to be strong, things like that.
Also, things like environmental toxins. Are we being exposed to something like mold from a a building?
Are we being exposed to heavy metals?
Are we being exposed to pesticides?
And the answer for all of those for pretty much everybody is going to be yes.
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So it's more of a matter of maximizing our detoxification system,
not avoiding them completely because you'll drive yourself crazy.
Yeah, that's so wild to think that it really start before we even can before
we even know what gut health is.
It's also empowering for women to think about these things because maybe your mother didn't know.
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She probably didn't. If you're listening to this podcast, the microbiome is
literally like, we've only really been talking about it for like 50 years.
So there's a good chance that your mom had no idea that these things could influence
the microbiome for her baby's entire life.
Our microbiomes are actually very difficult to change after the year two or
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three, which is wild to think about.
But it's empowering for women who are wanting to have children in the future
because this is just a force to think about when you're making decisions like that.
Yeah, I think that's a great point to make. Knowledge is power.
Now that we know it's something, like you said, that we can make that change
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for our future generation that we create.
So how does the gut microbiome impact overall health, especially in women? So many ways.
So the gut microbiome is really our second brain and there's so much communication
happening between the gut.
And the brain. There's actually more communication coming from our enterocytes,
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which are the gut cells to the brain than from the brain to the gut,
which is so insane to think about.
But we're constantly getting communication from our gut. So the microbiome is
this collection of microbes, mostly bacteria, some fungi, some yeast,
some parasites thrown in there.
Like not all of these these things are bad, you're not going to be able to avoid the parasites.
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I know that's a really trending thing right now. We're not going to be able
to avoid them at all times.
And actually, at one time, parasites were very helpful and they can be helpful
because they actually can eat
up things like candida and some of those overgrowth that we don't want.
But when the parasites and candida and things like that get overgrown,
that's when we run into to issues.
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But the microbiome affects our hormones because there's actually a subset of
the microbes called the astrobalone.
They have a huge influence on our estrogen levels.
So that's another kind of buzzword that's going around estrogen dominance and
everybody wants to like get their estrogen levels checked and keep them low and things like that.
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But the astrobalone, they produce an enzyme called beta-glucuronidase.
And this enzyme is literally what determines whether or not our estrogen is
recirculated and reused, which can then cause things like that estrogen dominance.
Or if that estrogen is detoxed,
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and then it exits through the bowels. So if we've got a good,
healthy environment, then estrogen dominance should really never be an issue for us.
Now, there are, of course, other factors that influence estrogen and how much
we have in the body, but we'll talk about that later too, I'm sure.
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All of that is really interesting because I know when I started seeing my functional
medicine doctor, that is something that I was told that I had estrogen estrogen dominant.
And then after that, I did my gut test, which I told you about last time you
were on and I sent you my results.
But I did my gut test and I did find out that I had an overgrowth of bad bacteria.
And I think my immune system was inflamed and a few other things.
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It's just all so interesting to think how the hormones in the gut are so closely
connected because I think before I started seeing a functional medicine doctor,
I would have had no idea. Right.
Yeah. And you mentioned the immune system. So that's another huge way that the
gut influences our overall health.
The gut and the immune system, it's all one thing. It really can't be separated.
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You can't have a healthy or an unhealthy gut and have a healthy immune system.
And this would be definitely another topic or another podcast episode,
but autoimmune issues, there's always, always a gut component.
They don't exist without each other.
So if you're someone with an autoimmune condition, it doesn't matter what it is.
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It doesn't have to be a gut related autoimmune condition like you see your Crohn's
or something like that. It could be Hashimoto's or RA.
Those, just because it's just your thyroid with Hashimoto's doesn't mean that
your gut isn't involved.
Other ways that it affects our health. So this is another, I keep touching on these trends, but.
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You know, there's a lot of clarification that I find needs to be said about some of these things.
So 90 to 95% of our serotonin is produced in the gut.
And people think, oh my gosh, well, that's why I have mood issues.
And yes, your gut is totally related to your mood issues, but the serotonin
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in your gut doesn't actually pass the blood brain barrier.
So it actually is very different than the serotonin that's in our brain affecting our mood or our mindset.
The serotonin in our gut actually has more to do with peristalsis,
which is the movement of fecal matter through your bowels.
So how quickly or how slowly are you moving that fiber,
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that food through your bowels, which this can lead to things like constipation
or loose stools, some of those those really obvious gut issues can result from
too much or too little serotonin.
Serotonin actually also affects how we perceive pain in the gut.
So if you have too much serotonin, you might actually be more prone to some
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of those stomach issues or tummy troubles, like my stomach hurts right now.
Or if you don't have enough serotonin, you might not perceive that you have
pain in your gut and you might never even relate it to a gut issue.
So it can be really tricky with that serotonin piece.
Wow. I have a quick question about serotonin. So you mentioned stomach pain.
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So is that connected to cramping that we experience when we're PMSing or is
that a little bit different?
Actually, you know, that's a really good question that I don't actually know
the answer to, but I'm willing to say that they would be connected.
I don't know exactly how much. When you are PMSing, when you're cramping from
your period, what's happening is the endometrial lining is shutting.
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So naturally there is going to be like a little bit of pain.
I mean, I know that everybody wants like a pain-free period and like,
yes, your period should not be, you shouldn't be missing work.
You shouldn't have to like stay home on the couch all day. Like you might feel
like it, but you shouldn't be forced to in that situation.
When you're having excess pain,
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there is an issue typically with estrogen dominance, but that's usually...
And we'll touch a little bit on this later as well, but estrogen is a growth hormone.
So estrogen is growing your endometrial lining, getting ready for implantation.
That's how the baby will stay nice and cushy when you get pregnant.
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If you get pregnant during that cycle, if you don't get pregnant during that
cycle, that lining is what sheds and that is our bleed.
So if you have a lot of estrogen producing a lot of growth in this lining,
then you're going to have a heavier bleed and it might be more painful.
So having a good balance of estrogen is what's going to manage most of the pain that we're having.
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Although I am willing to bet that you're onto something with that because the
endometrial lining is the uterus and the uterus is right with the gut,
like all of that, the immune system,
that's all one big thing right here in our abdomen, right? So yeah,
that's a great question.
Yeah. I'm always so curious because I don't have the most painful periods,
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but I think that, well, I'm assuming because you just mentioned estrogen dominance,
that probably makes mine a little bit more painful than they would be.
But yeah, so I'm always very interested in what causes those different symptoms
that some of us have and some of us don't.
So let's talk about diet. What role does diet play when it comes to our gut and hormone health?
Oh my gosh. Diet is almost everything. everything.
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I would say stress and diet are the two biggest things that affect our gut health
and our overall health and well-being.
So when it comes to diet, a couple things come to mind. Number one, fiber.
We have to have fiber in our diet to, number one, to bulk up our stool and move
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things in a timely manner.
You pretty much want your food to be ingested and out of you within about 16 to 18 hours.
It's like a really beautiful window.
Anything less than 12 hours, you're looking at too quick of a time.
And then anything over 24, that's far too long to be in the gut.
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So that window, but any anywhere between 12 to 24 hours is okay.
So fiber is what helps us manage that time.
So things like legumes, fresh fruits and vegetables, those are my favorite forms of fiber.
I don't love grains for fiber.
There's too much inflammation that happens with grains, in my opinion,
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and a lot of other people would agree with this, but if you're going to do grains, moderation.
So what about, what's a popular one? I think there's a popular grain that I
feel like people in the health field, brownie.
Sourdough. Oh, sourdough. There you go. Sourdough is actually what I was thinking.
Yeah. So sourdough, another craze right now.
So sourdough is going to be better than white bread sourdough has bacteria that
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have digested some of the gluten so it's easier for you to digest,
I would say that sourdough is not going to be, first of all,
there's a couple of things.
Anytime you're using a bleached flour, you really want to get quality.
You want to get not only organic, but I'm also going to recommend glyphosate free.
I won't expand too much on glyphosate right now, but we'll get into it.
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Glyphosate is going to really harm the bacteria in your gut.
And so that's one reason that I would say look for a glyphosate free flour.
If you're going to be working with it.
But I mean, I think sourdough, again, in moderation, it's not going to be something
that you want to do daily.
Definitely not like multiple times a day. All of those grains,
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I would just say with a grain of salt.
Love the pun. But yeah, other things in your diet. So the fiber is a really big one.
You want to do the fiber additionally because fiber is going to bind to toxins.
It's going to grow the microbiome in a healthy way as long as like we said,
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like you're avoiding things like glyphosate and pesticides. What about the supplements?
Like I know some people take fiber supplement or they feel like they're not
getting a lot. Is that going to have the same effect as the food?
Yeah. So fiber supplements can be really great as well.
Most fiber supplements don't really have a flavor so in
my opinion like there's no need to like look for all
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that like extra flavor and like jazz that's
added to it i like something called sun fiber
it's unique type of fiber that's really safe for anyone who does have digestive
issues because fiber ironically it's so helpful for the gut but it's actually
something that can really cause a lot of the gas and bloating and some of those digestive issues.
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So it's a double-edged sword for people who are struggling with their gut health to get enough fiber.
So that's when I personally think that it's the best for those types of people
to supplement with fiber.
Other than that, I really think that most people can aim to get it from their diet.
And the beauty in that too is if you are eating lots of fruits and and vegetables
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and you're filling up on fiber because fiber is very satiating.
It's going to make you feel full for a really long time, which is,
you know, great for blood sugar and weight management and everything like that.
But because of that, you're not going to be reaching for those sweets after your meals.
Or if you are, you're going to be satisfied with like a couple of pieces of dark chocolate.
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You know, you're not going to be wanting that big bowl of ice cream.
You're not going to be going to the pantry for potato chips and snacks and things
like that because you're satiated.
So it's kind of this crowding owl principle where eat more of the healthy foods
and you're going to eat less of unhealthy foods, right? Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah. So other things that are super important for gut health, I would say amino acids.
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And I love recommending people do either bone broth or meat broth,
depending on where you are in your healing journey.
These can be super, super powerful elixirs for the gut because they contain
lots of amino acids, lots of minerals, things like glucosamine from cartilage.
So glucosamine I mean, is an end product that we get from things like cartilage
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or some of the soft tissue from animal products.
And it only exists in animal products. It's similar to collagen.
So collagen is also contained in these broths. And those are amazing for healing
leaky gut and sealing the gut.
Also providing those enterocytes, those gut cells with fuel that they need to run on.
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How do you eat your own broth or drink it, I should say? because I tried to
drink it and I didn't love it.
I know my coworker actually told me that she cooks her rice in it,
but how do you usually take your bone broth?
So I'm obsessed with bone broth.
I love the taste of it. What type did you have? Was it beef or chicken?
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I can't remember if it was beef or chicken. I remember the brand, it was Kettle and Fire.
So I don't know if there's a brand you suggest, but yeah. Okay, so a couple of things.
I think homemade broth is like so much better.
And you're gonna get like down here, I think those brands are like $10.
Wait, that was years ago. That was pre COVID.
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I haven't bought this since before COVID. They're probably $12 or $13 for like a 32 ounce.
I can almost buy an entire pasture raised chicken for that much.
And then I'm getting the meat so you You can like roast your chicken.
I actually do mine in a little like electric smoker that I have.
So then I get smoked bone broth, which I really like. That sounds really good.
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It is. It adds like a really, really nice flavor to it.
So then you're getting like all of that meat and you're getting the bone broth.
So I always say, especially, I think everybody is kind of trying to be on a
budget right now. It's 2024.
So if you can do the whole animal...
You're going to, you're definitely going to save yourself some money,
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but I, I do just drink like bone broth plain things that you can add to it.
If you're like not thrilled on the flavor, I would say like fresh rosemary would
be a really great herb to add some fresh sage or even some just ground sage.
And then if you've got like turkey broth, that's like, to me,
like Thanksgiving in a cup.
Okay but you can do like lots of garlic
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ginger you can add like a bunch
of roasted or like just like raw veggies and like
cook the veggies in it and then just have like essentially just like a brothy
vegetable side if you want to do it that way another thing and i don't know
because i love them both but i don't know if you might like a meat broth better
than a bone broth the meat Meat broth definitely has a lot more flavor to it.
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And that one is actually going to be higher in the nutrients needed for healing the gut.
Whereas the bone broth is a little bit higher in nutrients that are kind of
just going to give you fuel to remineralize your body. So both are good.
I would say the meat broth is more for someone in those more acute stages where
they're really focusing on healing.
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The bone broth would be like later stages.
Okay, that makes sense. And then I would say like the last piece of the diet,
and I mean, there's, we could go, we could literally talk about this,
the whole podcast, but the diet piece, just anything that ramps up your detox,
because again, your detoxification system, your immune system,
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your gut, like it's, it's really all one piece with different parts.
So things that are high in B vitamins, eggs.
Red meat, you really want to look for like B3, B6, B9, which is folate,
not to be confused with folic acid. They're not the same thing.
And in fact, folic acid will bind to your folate receptors and block any folate from coming in.
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Oh, so just to go a little bit further down that sourdough rabbit hole with
the word fine grains, there's lots of reasons why I want to,
you know, to influence people to avoid these refined grains.
But one reason is that they're enriched with these vitamins, but.
They're enriched with a synthetic form of vitamins like folic acid.
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So if you are ingesting a ton of folic acid through refined grains or a prenatal
that has folic acid or just a B complex that has folic acid,
and then you're wanting to increase your detox by eating lots of folate rich foods.
So liver is probably the best source.
Greens like kale, collards, spinach, those all have a lot of folate in them,
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your body's not going to be able to use that folate because your receptors are bound up by folic acid.
And folic acid's not really going to get the same job done as folate.
So that's another piece.
Like I said, we could go down so many rabbit holes with this,
but I'll leave it with that.
But B12 is also really important for detox.
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Minerals like copper, pepper, selenium, magnesium, of course.
I mentioned the amino acids. All of these are necessary for phase one and phase
two of your liver detoxification.
So really important to get those from your diet.
Nice. So I know you mentioned magnesium and I know you mentioned getting it
from food, but is it any magnesium?
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Because I know like I take magnesium glycinate and it helps me sleep.
So I don't know if that's the magnesium or does it matter? Yeah,
so that's a great question.
Magnesium, unfortunately, like most of our minerals are really being depleted from our soil.
This is, again, pesticides are a really big part of why this is happening.
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Things like monocropping, which is growing the same crops on the same land year
after year and not rotating crops, like the land, you know, that was how things were meant to be.
So these are depleting the nutrients in the soil, minerals, probiotics alike, both of them. And,
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It's basically rendering our soil like dead rather than like this living thing
with all of these nutrients.
So magnesium is one of those that, you know, it's been being depleted in our soil.
So I do recommend supplementing with magnesium.
And the magnesium glycinate is a really good one. I supplement with magnesium glycinate as well.
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Good. I'm obsessed. I feel like I get the best sleep.
Right. Right. Yeah. So speaking of detox and supplements, are there any additional
supplements that we can take or that you recommend typically for your clients?
Yeah, definitely. So we haven't really touched on this and we probably will,
I'm sure, because it's bound to come up.
But stress is such a big reason why people end up with gut issues.
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This job that's draining you, the divorce, the kids, financial situations.
I mean, There's so many stressors in our day-to-day lives, in addition to some
of those things that can cause chronic stress.
So I recommend if that is you, if you're like, yep, I definitely recommend finding
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an adaptogenic herb that works well for you.
And it might take you a little bit to really feel out how something is affecting
you because herbs are not like pharmaceuticals.
It might take three weeks. it might take three months for you to really feel something from an herb.
And that's because it's really like changing our whole physiology, right?
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So like, it's not just like supplementing something really quickly to like fix
an issue. It's a holistic approach.
So adaptogenic herbs that I love, I personally love holy basil,
more Tulsi, same thing, but a lot of people really like ashwagandha.
Okay, I was just gonna ask if that was one.
Yep. Yeah. So those are really really great for adrenal health and stress relief,
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helping you just like cope with stressors more easily and feeling more resilient to stressors.
Yeah, that's definitely a huge one.
Yes. And then things like dandelion root are really great for the liver,
milk thistle for the liver, yellow dock root, some of those are really great for liver health.
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So for me, I definitely don't mind taking supplements, but I know sometimes
I'm just not that consistent.
So when we're thinking about adding in supplements, like is there kind of like
strategy that we should use?
Because I think adding in everything is probably going to be hard.
So how do you usually guide people to like get more consistent with taking their
supplements and their vitamins and things?
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Definitely. I definitely recommend doing one one or two at a time and,
you know, not going crazy because you also want to know, like,
is this supplement benefiting me?
Am I feeling better on it? Is it actually doing anything?
If not, maybe it's not the right one for you. Maybe you need to check out a different brand.
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Like there's so many different factors with that. I also like,
as far as like compliance with my clients,
I always recommend depending on how many supplements they're taking and getting
like like a little pill organizer where it's got, you know, each day of the week on it.
You know, you can get the bigger ones that, you know, have three compartments
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for the day. So you've got your morning, afternoon, and evening.
And those can, you can take them out and put them in your purse.
Other things, you know, you can put a widget on your phone. You can do an alarm.
If you work at home all day and you want to like keep your supplements on your
desk at work, like that could be a good strategy. It's like insight in mind, right?
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Yeah. So put them places that you're going to see them, you know,
your bathroom counter when you wake up in the morning or kitchen counter when
you're making your tea in the morning, something like that.
Yeah, those are really good tips. So speaking of supplements,
let's talk about probiotics. So what role does that play in maintaining gut health?
And are there any specific strains that are probably the most beneficial for women? Yeah.
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Awesome question. Okay. So, well, first of all, let's kind of define probiotics
because most people nowadays, we think of probiotics as this little pill. Yes, I do.
But probiotics, like I mentioned, they originated in our soil.
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That's the original probiotic. And so if we live in accordance with the way our ancestors said,
we would be fermenting foods, we would be pulling food from the ground,
we probably wouldn't be scrubbing them clean,
like we'd probably eat some of that soil.
And that's how we would maintain our gut health.
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So a couple things with that i
think we could all probably do a little bit
more of those things especially when it
comes to fermenting foods i farm out foods there's
always something fermenting in my kitchen but i honestly love it and it's fun
it's rewarding because sometimes you're waiting like a couple weeks on this
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sauerkraut to finish or a couple days for this kimchi and like it's fun but
then you get to play around with flavors you know bragging about like like,
oh, I made this or like my sauerkraut's better than store-bought.
But the other thing with probiotics, obviously, like we want to have some of
those in our diet, we might need to supplement with probiotic pills,
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capsules, and especially for people dealing with chronic gut issues.
That's definitely, you know, I very rarely have somewhat, you know,
a gut issue with a client who I'm not going to supplement with,
but for long-term success,
like getting back into those ancestral type of, you know, just way of living.
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But on this piece, I have to, I have to dive deeper into the glyphosate issue.
So glyphosate is the main ingredient in Roundup.
It's one of the most used pesticides, herbicides in our country.
It's illegal in a lot of other countries. Wow.
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And glyphosate has been linked to non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and many other issues.
It is absolute poison for our gut and our overall health.
Glyphosate was originally patented as an antibiotic, and it's literally being
sprayed on our food. So every time you eat something with glyphosate that's
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been sprayed on it, you're ingesting an antibiotic.
And I don't know how much your listeners know about antibiotics,
but a single round of antibiotics can affect the gut microbiome for up to two years.
Wow. So we don't want to be taking antibiotics like they're given out like candy,
which is how they are in the medical system.
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Yes. They even give them to kids for like everything. And I know I feel like
my friend always gets them from her doctor whenever she's like really sick. So yeah. Yeah.
They're everywhere. And we definitely don't want to be ingesting antibiotics
on our food on a daily basis.
Now, glyphosate use is so widespread that it's not really avoidable at this
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point, but the best we can do is at least try to avoid it.
And then like I said, supplement with fermented foods.
So avoiding glyphosate is going to be looking for organic fruits and vegetables.
One really big issue with glyphosate is cattle and poultry that are fed soy
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and corn and wheat, but they're all sprayed with glyphosate.
So when we feed our animals these foods, then their microbiome is changed.
That changes all of their physiology, their immune system, their mineral status, everything.
And then that's going to affect us. So I really recommend looking for organic grass fed cattle.
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So you're at least limiting that glyphosate exposure.
And then the other part of your question was the strains that are most helpful
for women. So there was so many strains that are really beneficial for specific
things that we're looking for. I think a lot of women...
Right now are dealing with fatigue. A lot of people, women and men both are
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dealing with blood sugar issues.
So I definitely want to mention acromantia, myosophila.
This one is a probiotic that usually when we test the guts of anyone who's got
a metabolic issue like obesity obesity or diabetes,
they're super, super low in this particular strain.
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And so we know that this strain has a really huge profound effect on our blood sugar status.
And so if you're someone who does deal with blood sugar issues,
and you're eating well, maybe you're low in this one strain,
and that's why you can't kind of get a hold on those blood sugar issues.
So I want to mention in that one.
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The other two are really mostly pertaining to vaginal health.
So lactobacillus, crispaceous, I hope I'm saying these right. They have crazy names.
And then another one in the lactobacillus family, rhamnosus GG.
And the reason the lactobacillus are so great for the vaginal microbiome,
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the vagina is actually slightly acidic.
And so the lactobacillus bacteria, The ones that we get fermented foods are
going to produce lactic acid, which, as the name suggests, is also acidic.
So that's going to be a really good number one pH balancer.
And I'm sure all your women listeners have heard balancing your pH is,
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you know, the vaginal pH is huge.
If you get too alkaline, then you can get things like yeast overgrowth,
bacterial overgrowth, things that you definitely don't want.
And so the lactic acid will keep that pH in a healthy range.
And then also the bacteria is like the good bacteria that you do want because,
you know, the vagina, much like the gut, has its own microbiome and you want
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to make sure that you keep that healthy while we're on that topic.
If you have an unhealthy gut, it's going to be really hard to maintain a healthy vaginal microbiome.
So the two are definitely intertwined. And yeah.
Well, I am going to have to get you to message me the names of those probiotics
so I can include it in the show notes.
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But yeah, I've always been so curious about which ones to get.
So I think that's really helpful.
So how does chronic inflammation, I feel like we've all heard about inflammation
in the last few years, which I mean, it's necessary because I think a lot of us suffer from it.
But how does that affect our gut health and hormones?
So I really say it's kind of the other way around. How does our gut health affect inflammation?
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Let's talk about inflammation really quick. So inflammation isn't all bad, right?
Like we need a little bit of inflammation in order for the body to heal anything
because that's actually the ignition to healing.
When it becomes an issue, is when there's chronic inflammation that the body
can't handle, it's too much inflammation, it just can't stay on top of it.
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And that typically will happen with, I would say, two major things,
stress, you know, stress that's not managed well, and then toxic overload.
So this could be from that glyphosate exposure, this could be from heavy metals,
this could be from mold exposure.
So those are all exogenous things, things from our environment that are affecting
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our body. This could also be infection.
So if you are someone who's dealt with gut issues, things like SIBO,
IBS, things that are driven by the gut microbiome being imbalanced,
then that's going to cause a lot of endotoxicity.
So biotoxins from within the body, not only when When bacteria and microbes
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die, do they produce things like LPS, which is lipohalic saccharides,
which are inflammatory by nature.
But just having those microbes living inside of you, they're going to be producing toxic substances.
You know, I mean, it's kind of weird to think about bacteria like pooping,
but bacteria will produce waste, ammonia, things like that.
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So that's going to really, really drive up inflammation.
I would say those are like the major sources of inflammation and that majorly influences gut health.
There's actually not a single inflammatory condition.
So inflammatory conditions include basically all of the chronic conditions.
So obesity, RA, diabetes, any autoimmune condition, those are all inflammatory conditions.
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Even things like autism, ADHD, various mood disorders, all of those have been shown by research.
To all have a gut component. Every single one of them, there's an imbalance in the gut.
So we know that that's one of the major drivers of these inflammatory conditions.
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In order to obviously reverse them, you're going to have to look at the gut.
Wow. So what about sugar? Because I guess, I don't know, when I think of chronic
inflammation, for somebody who's been thinking about sugar, I don't know if
I should not be, but does that drive up inflammation?
Oh yeah, absolutely. So So sugar, I would say, again, everything in moderation,
like I'm not here telling you to never have a cookie again.
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But everything in moderation, sugar, obviously, the name says it,
sugar is going to affect your blood sugar.
And blood sugar is a huge source of inflammation in the body when it's imbalanced.
And blood sugar, you know, our insulin levels and the whole kind party that
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that is, is kind of a foundation to our hormone health.
It's very difficult to achieve balanced estrogen and progesterone to have a
healthy pregnancy or have strong and vital fertility.
If you don't have that blood sugar balance in check, if you're constantly going
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on blood sugar roller coasters where it's dipping super low and then it's super
high, you're dealing dealing with fatigue issues, that is going to really drive up inflammation.
So that would be the major thing that comes to mind when I think about sugar.
But again, sugar and refined carbs, that flour, it's all the same.
It's all inflammatory by nature because it's a processed food.
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Good to know. So what about exercise? What role does that play in supporting
all of these things. Yes.
Exercise and gut health have kind of like this bi-directional communication.
So first of all, we talked a little bit about perispalsis and like how easily
and quickly your food is moving through the GI tract.
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So essentially like how regular are you?
Are you having a bowel movement as many times as you eat?
Because that's really where you should be at.
Hopefully you're at least having a bowel movement every day.
I'd say there still needs to be some work done if that if that's you.
But if you're someone who's not having a bowel movement every day,
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it's maybe every other day, every couple of days, one of the first things I'm
going to tell you to do is exercise and exercise regularly, because that's literally
going to keep you regular.
And in terms of bowel movements, exercise, I think everybody's probably like
had that really good workout or gone for a run or even just a walk and your
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mood is like you've done a 180.
Maybe you needed a mood lifter or you just noticed that you are a lot happier
after that exercise, after whatever you've done.
So we know that the mood component of exercise is a huge piece.
And we also know that the gut majorly influences our mood. So that kind of is all one piece as well.
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Wow. I'm someone I love to work out in the morning because I feel like it does
help me start my day off with the right mindset and the right attitude.
So yeah, I feel like it's such a mood booster.
As you said, even if I just go outside and go on a walk, the fact that I got
outside and felt fresh air, the sun, I'm in Florida, so the sun's always beaming.
But yes, I feel like it's such a mood changer and honestly a game changer because
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when I don't work out in the mornings.
I feel like my day drags and I am just, as my manager would say, I'm just sassy.
I honestly, I feel the same way.
And I don't always like make sure that I get like a workout in,
but some sort of movement,
you know, it can be five or 10 minutes of like abs or yoga or just something
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to get your blood flowing. That's huge. Definitely.
So what are some of of the common symptoms of gut dysfunction in women and how
can we start addressing them?
So I think some of the obvious gut dysfunction symptoms are things like constipation.
And I already kind of defined that.
But just again, like if you're not going at a minimum once a day, you are constipated.
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Even if you are going once a day, I still consider that constipation.
I want my clients going every meal that they
eat like not immediately you know because that
that could be an issue too but i want you going two to three times
a day obviously on the opposite end of that diarrhea
or loose stools any like bloating or gas just cramping just pain in your stomach
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those are some of the obvious gut dysfunction symptoms other than that any hormonal
imbalances if you've got fertility issues you might want to look into your gut
health if you're having having estrogen dominance,
you definitely want to look into your gut health.
Any mood disorders, anxiety, depression, even again, back to like,
the hormonal health, if you're having like major mood swings during your cycle,
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like most likely right before your period, or you're like uncontrollably crying,
or like you just can't keep your mood together.
Those are some major signs that there's some hormonal imbalances and almost
guarantee there's going to be a gut component to it.
Not always, but most of the time.
I think that's really important because I don't think I've ever really connected
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them that much hormones and gut yeah yeah really
all has to do with the detoxification system we
kind of touch on that but yeah i think like managing
this number one is going to be stress if you are chronically stressed it's going
to be so hard to get on top of your hormonal symptoms and your gut symptoms
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so i'm speaking to myself when i say this because stress was the number one
driver for me with all of the issues that I had.
And so managing that, working on somatic therapy and trauma release and all
of these things were such a big part of my healing.
And so I really want to drive that home for people.
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You know, if you are someone dealing with a lot of stress, like figure out what
it's going to take to get you to a more level mood, a more level way of living,
whether again, Again, like I said, breath work, yoga,
mineral balancing, all of these things are so important.
It's a holistic approach, you know?
Yeah. So when I think of stress, sometimes I know that my job,
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it's a lot, so it can be stressful, but sometimes I feel like I have trouble
figuring out, am I really stressed?
I don't know if you ever hear that, but sometimes I feel like I have trouble
figuring out, am I stressed?
Am I tired? What is it? I have no idea. So I don't know if you have any tips,
but how have you helped your clients kind of decipher if they're stressed?
That's an excellent question. A lot of the time, And I think this is so common now.
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A lot of the time, we don't even know if we're in this chronic state of stress
or not, because we're so used to it.
And I don't know if that's exactly what you're saying.
Probably so. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, we are really used to this really stressed out life.
You know, there's so many things that we have to handle on a day to day basis.
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So you can, you know, there are different tests that you can run,
you can look at your cortisol throughout the day and see if you're you've got
good levels in the morning.
And then if they're tapering off at night, like that would be a sign of well managed stress.
What do you use to measure cortisol during the day? So cortisol is going to
be best measured with your saliva.
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You can also use your urine. Both of those would work.
The only issue with that, you definitely want to do saliva first thing in the
morning because you're going to want to get a reading like before you get out
of bed and then about an hour after you wake and then one around like,
you know, mid afternoon and then evening and night.
So you're not going to do a urine test in bed.
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So the saliva is going to be the best one for that.
You can do this at home? Yeah. Yeah. So this would be a test that you get at home.
You've got all the things you need and you just do tests and then.
Okay. The other test I really like for, and this is going to be more of like
a big picture of your stress because that cortisol, unless you wanted to repeat
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it, you're really only getting one day of cortisol.
Your cortisol can fluctuate. It won't fluctuate that much, but again,
Again, it's going to be one day or a couple of days. We can say that.
The other one I love is the hair tissue mineral analysis.
This is going to be kind of our stress response and how our adrenals are handling
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things because we're getting basically we're getting a snapshot of three months of your minerals.
And so this test, again, like it's going to give you more of like,
are you in this really high stress state? Are you in a state where you're kind
of like coming off of that stress?
Or are you in this state where you have been stressed for a long time?
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So it gives you more of a kind of a more broad picture of what your stress has
been like. So I really like that one.
And that's actually a really affordable functional test.
You know, a lot of them cost quite a bit of money and that can be a barrier
for people. But the Heritation Mineral Analysis gives us a lot of information.
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With, you know, does it cost Norman a leg? The other thing, I'll just throw
this in there. I love the HTMA,
hair tissue mineral analysis for heavy metals, because that's such a big component
of, again, our exogenous toxicity.
So getting hold of some of those heavy metals and pulling them out of the tissues
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can be monumental for gut health, stress, fertility, hormones, everything.
Yeah, I think that's really huge. Now I want to take the HTMA, you said?
I want to take that now, house I probably will yeah and
another really great thing about that test is it's non-invasive so
there's no needles and blood work you don't
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even have to leave your house I literally send you
an envelope with instructions you cut a chunk of your hair out like a small
chunk you know and you're not gonna look bald or anything and you send it in
so that is really that's really nice because I just recently did a food sensitivity
test and you have to like prick your finger I I hate blood.
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It took me like I had to do deep breaths. I was trying to prick my finger and
I had to call my dad in because anyway, so I'm just like, okay,
anything that doesn't involve blood and needles, like I'm here for it.
Well, especially like pricking it yourself. That's hard.
Yeah, because I'm just that's just not my thing. But I mean,
obviously, I got through it. But this test just sounds so much easier.
So it's kind of nice. So sensitivity testing, I like to use bioenergetic testing,
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which is I'm not familiar with that kind of complicated.
I won't get into the science, but basically it's quantum physics that like test
your frequency versus food and other things,
toxins and things like that to see if there's like resonance or if there's like dissonance between it.
And then it will tell us like whether or not you essentially like the frequency
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of your cells are going to like accept the frequency of said food item.
Wow, that sounds really interesting.
It's really cool. cool. It sounds really cool.
All right, Grown Girl Gang, that was part one of the conversation that I had with Carly. Stay tuned.
Next week, I will release part two. Follow the podcast so that you don't miss
an update. We will chat next week. Bye, Grown Girl Gang.
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