April 9, 2025 • 32 mins
In this episode of Green Tea Party Radio, hosts Zach Torpie and Katie Zakrzewski are diving headfirst into the wild world of Canadian politics, just as a snap election is about to shake things up! With Prime Minister Mark Carney ringing the election bell, our dynamic duo breaks down what this means for the environment and the future of conservatism in the Great White North.
Join the fun as they pit Carney against Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre—who some might say is the Canadian Trump (yikes!). From the hot-button issue of the carbon tax to the heated debates over oil and gas exports, Zach and Katie navigate the twists and turns of these political players and their green agendas. 🎉
What’s on the agenda this week? - The upcoming snap election in Canada - A closer look at Mark Carney and Pierre Poilievre - The lowdown on the carbon tax and its impact on Canadians - The future of conservatism across North America - The tricky balancing act between economic growth and protecting our planet
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"Honestly, after hearing about Mark Carney's like economic positions and his environmental positions, if he like ran as a conservative, I'd probably vote for him here in the United States." -Zach
"For me, being pro environment is pro life. So I don't know that you can, you know, say, oh, well, we're going to clean up the environment and improve your quality of life for when you sleep under a bridge." -Katie
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>> Zach (00:06):
Hello, and welcome to the Green Tea Party, where we discuss
conservative solutions to environmental problems. My name is Zach
Torpy.
>> Katie (00:12):
And I'm Katie Zakreski. Together, we'll guide you
through complex issues and provide strategies to address
them all while remaining faithful to our conservative
values.
>> Zach (00:22):
Trust me, it'll be a good time.
>> Katie (00:24):
Yeah, it's a party, so grab your mugs
and we'll pour the tea.
>> Zach (00:32):
Katie, I wanted to make sure there are no random, uh,
journalists in our group chat. I guess that's worth
the check.
>> Katie (00:39):
Oh, my God. My God. I have got to
tell you about a meme I saw today. The moment I saw it, I was like, yep,
that one's going to Zach. Um, let me see it. It
was. Okay, I've almost got it right here. It was the Lord of
the Rings, Aragon. M says, you have my sword, and
Legolas goes, you have my bow, and Gimli goes, and my
axe. And then it's Saruman going, am I supposed to be in this group
chat? So, yeah,
(01:01):
um, that. Yeah, I. I also saw the meme, and it's
the guy standing in the corner at the party with the party hat
on, and he's got the. The beer in his hand, and it says, they
don't know that I'm the editor in chief of the Atlantic. That was
also. That was also a really good meme. So. Yeah.
>> Zach (01:15):
You know how he even gets invited?
>> Katie (01:16):
Yeah. Like, how did. How do you just randomly, like, add
somebody like that into your group chat and not know who it is? Like,
that's just. That's just so crazy to me. That. Like, what.
That little. That. That little. I say, as if it
wasn't at all important. Do you remember the guy, I think he was from Texas?
Uh, the. The airman who, like, leaked the
nuclear launch codes or whatever in his Discord server. That dude
(01:37):
got nine years. That dude got nine
years for that. And then the Secretary of Defense
just did it, and he gets paid six figures, so what do I
know? Oh, my.
>> Zach (01:49):
Uh.
>> Katie (01:49):
But he does 47 a day for the president.
You and I both know there will be
absolutely nothing that happens to that guy.
>> Zach (01:58):
This is so stupid. Something has to happen. Like, it's just
ridiculous, Embarrassing.
>> Katie (02:02):
You. I, uh. Dude, if they don't do anything, they better
release that. That guy that they put in nine. Put in prison
for nine years for doing it in Discord. Like,
I don't. I don't see how you could have one dude in jail for a decade
and then the other guy making six figures in government
salary. I Don't really know how you make that
argument.
>> Zach (02:20):
Yeah, sorry.
>> Katie (02:22):
Yeah. So no. So no random journalists in this here
laughs in AP style. Yeah. No. So if
you're gonna drop any of your juicy secrets, I promise.
Winky face. I'm not a journalist. Winky
face. So, yeah, crazy times here in the United
States of America. Yeah, but it sounds like this is not
the only place that's having crazy going on.
>> Zach (02:41):
Hey, as you may
not understand our terrible reference in
attempted accent, we are going to talk about
Canada's election. I'm not sure if
they actually called. I don't think they've called the election
yet. But it's widely expected that
the new Liberal PM will
call for a snap election in the next
(03:03):
couple weeks.
>> Katie (03:05):
Okay, uh, also side tangent, tangent, before we
even get into the main tangent, is like every other country in the world
like prone to snap elections except us? Because it
seems like other countries just be doing snap elections like all the time
just because they feel like it is for like,
what, how does that work? Like, does everybody have to go out and
vote because we can't even get our folks to do it once
(03:25):
every four years. I can't imagine like having just like an
ambiguous schedule.
>> Zach (03:30):
Yeah, so it's the parliamentary system. They can call
snap elections and
just be like, oh, we don't like how the country's being run.
Let's redo elections, see if we get more power, see if we lose
and get a mandate.
>> Katie (03:46):
Imagine having a parliament. El Bozo
move all that
congress. Come back when you're ready to act like
a real country. Canada.
Lame. Just, just Canadian things.
>> Zach (04:00):
The future of 51st State.
>> Katie (04:03):
Yeah, I don't know what the a kilometer is and I
don't care.
>> Zach (04:09):
And so they have called their snap election since
they a couple hours ago. Since I wrote
this episode, an election has
been called for by Mark Carney, the current
Liberal PM of Canada.
>> Katie (04:22):
See, we weren't lying when we said the news changes
so fast around here that sometimes it
changes live on the show.
>> Zach (04:30):
Yep. And he was
that he is calling it for this because he is so
he is gaining steam and gaining confidence and winning. When the
Liberal Party a couple weeks ago, before Trump was
elected, was dead and presumed that the Conservatives were
going to win like 70% of the seats and now
it's got the greatest, the
(04:50):
greatest international influence.
>> Katie (04:52):
We have single handedly killed
conservatism in North America.
It is all part of the liberal
agenda to use me to
destroy conservatism in Canada. Well,
they're doing a pretty good Job. Great
work.
So let's talk a little more
about that.
>> Zach (05:13):
So the candidate on the
Conservative side is Pierre Polever,
and he's the current leader of the Conservative Party.
He's got a degree in international relations from
the University of Calgary and was president
of the Conservative club there. In
2004, at the age of 25, he was elected
(05:34):
to the House of Commons. Wow. In the
district of Ottawa. Uh.
>> Katie (05:38):
Wow. And I'm 26 and I weigh 400 pounds. So
clearly, if you're looking for inspiration, you've come to the wrong
place. But good job, Pierre.
>> Zach (05:45):
Yeah. In 2006, only two years
in parliament, he was promoted to
be a parliamentary secretary to the
Prime Minister, Stephen Harper. So
parliamentary secretary is like an
assistant to a minister in Canada, and a minister
is a secretary in the U.S. like the secretary of State or
the Secretary of Action.
>> Katie (06:06):
Okay, so he's like a secretary for a
secretary.
>> Zach (06:11):
Yes.
>> Katie (06:11):
Did I get that wrong? Secretary to a.
>> Zach (06:13):
Uh, he is the advisor to
what would be their. Like, Secretary of Agriculture,
I think.
>> Katie (06:19):
Interesting. Okay. Okay, that makes more
sense. Okay. I'm just silly. End of a long workday.
Pardon me. Take it away with more Zach
frags.
>> Zach (06:28):
So the parliamentary secretaries are chosen by the Prime Minister
and carry out their responsibilities set out by the Prime
Minister to whom they are assigned. So he served
as the Democratic reform.
He served as Minister for democratic reform from 2013
and 2015. And.
(06:49):
And, um. Read my notes.
And then. And after 2015, he was elected
to be the leader of Conservative Party in 2022,
when he was a major opposition to Trudeau championing the
freedom convoy of truck drivers who went and shut
down Ottawa and railed against the COVID 19
lockdowns and
basically just railed and hated Trudeau so
(07:12):
much. And you know what? The media turned on Trudeau,
and eventually they're like, yeah, this guy's got a point. This guy.
>> Katie (07:17):
I'll drink to that. That sounds good to me.
All right. Yeah, whatever. Let's go with that. All right, we're
sick and tired of this bandwagon. Let's hop on a new one.
>> Zach (07:26):
So he will be the candidate.
>> Katie (07:28):
Dude. Dude. For also crazy aside,
the Freedom convoy was three
years ago. Oh, my God.
That felt like it was last November.
Are you dead, ass? That was three years ago.
>> Zach (07:43):
It was a while ago.
>> Katie (07:45):
God, I need a nap or a vacation.
>> Zach (07:47):
A while ago.
>> Katie (07:48):
Now it feels like five years ago, bro.
Five. Five years
ago. Oh, my God. Five years ago. Covid
was five years ago. Okay, that's enough. Ah. That's enough.
All Right. Thanks for listening to Green Tea Party Radio. Um, if
you want.
All right, let's hear more.
>> Zach (08:06):
Yeah. So he will be the
candidate for the Conservative sides going up against Mark Carney
for the prime to be the Prime Minister of
Canada. His political views. He's
the Liberal Party. The Liberal Party of Canada
labeled him as the Canadian version of Trump,
which is, as you might have guessed, not very
(08:26):
popular in Canada nowadays.
>> Katie (08:28):
Not really like, a compliment either, if you're, like, literally
anybody.
>> Zach (08:31):
So, yeah, he.
They've been running ads of
Pierre Polever and Trump speaking back
to back, and the Liberal Party
being like, see, like, mimicking the same lines as Trump. He's gonna be
the same guy. He's. But he does have much.
He's a much better speaker, much clearer rhetoric
(08:51):
and more professional instead of.
>> Katie (08:54):
That's not possible. We've got the best speakers, Zach.
It's literally not possible. We've got
the biggest, the hugest, the grandest of
them all of all the speakers.
And I've seen speakers I don't think Trump knows either.
So it's like. It's
in its own dialect of, like, Northeastern
(09:15):
dialects. It's kind of like pidgin in the South.
It's like that, but, like, only, like, the 1%
can speak it.
>> Zach (09:22):
So the Conservative Party is a little different from the Conservative party
in the U.S. they're actually. They've come out as pro
immigration as a way to
deal with, um, to keep the economy running and bringing
in people. It's like the, uh,
70s, 80s, 60s America, where it's like, bring in,
come into our country and join our culture and we'll
(09:42):
improve. Even though.
>> Katie (09:44):
Yeah. Because they're probably getting, like, millions of Americans to move up there
every single year right now. So that
makes sense. They're probably eager to get these guys.
>> Zach (09:52):
Some jobs, but they are. They do know the classics.
They want to cut bureaucracy, they want to cut consultants, they
want to cut foreign aid, cut back in corporate welfare
to large corporations.
And, uh, they're just looking to go and cut the size of the government,
reduce withdrawal, some traditional
Conservative values. And Pierre
(10:12):
Polvaire is also very against the Canadian
carbon tax, which was introduced under
Trudeau's government and has been a central issue of
the attack against Liberal government. The famous slogan
is axe the tax, which is.
>> Katie (10:26):
Which normally I would agree with, but here I don't.
>> Zach (10:29):
It's a great slogan.
>> Katie (10:32):
Yeah. Oh, my God. It's absolutely criminal
how easy the campaign was
around getting rid of the carbon price and how
everybody who was a proponent of it Was just kind of like, yeah,
you guys are right. This was dumb. Like,
really? Are you serious? Like, are you deadass right now?
You're just gonna lay there and take that, man? Like, get up,
(10:52):
get up. It's me, like, poking the Canadian government with a
stick, being like, please give these guys something
down here to look forward to. Please.
>> Zach (11:01):
So we will be doing a deep dive on the Canadian carbon tax
and what its impact was. I have seen some good statistics
on it, but I want to do a full breakdown and see where
those numbers are coming from.
>> Katie (11:11):
Do you want to pick your brain before we move on, though? Do. Do
you think the Canadian
Conservatives have been hard on the carbon tax
literally, just because it was easy to dunk on Trudeau
for the last couple years? Like, do you think if anybody else had done it
and the situation was different, that they kind of would be like, we
don't really care? Like, do you think it was just, like, things
lined up perfectly to be like, we hate Trudeau and that means,
(11:34):
like, anything even remotely that came out from under him,
like, do you think they're genuine? Do you think it's convenience, or
do you think it's a little bit of both?
>> Zach (11:41):
I think Trudeau was very much wrapped around
the carbon tax and intermingled, so he couldn't be separated from
it. So it was an easy way to attack him and attack the Liberal
Party, huh? And it was basically
the easiest way that they could be like, this is the reason for
all your problems. This is what's wrong. There's nothing else.
>> Katie (11:59):
So it's almost like their equivalent of when Biden
was like, I did the Inflation Reduction Act. Like,
this was my, like, moral
grandstand. Like, so now Conservatives are,
like, absolutely frothing at the mouth when people bring up the
Inflation Reduction act, in spite of the fact that a lot of the
provisions in it go to red states. It sounds like this is
kind of like a mirror of what they had going on
(12:21):
with their carbon tax. It sounds like just because it was so wrapped around
one identity of an individual as opposed to,
like, a parliamentary wide
achievement.
>> Zach (12:31):
And I don't know the history of the Canadian Carmen tax, but I would
assume that it wasn't done on bipartisan manner. I
think the Liberals had a very. A very strong majority at some point and
passed it.
>> Katie (12:41):
Probably it hadn't been around for more than a few
years either, because our. I don't think. Anyway, don't quote
me on that, but I remember even at
Citizens Climate Lobby here a couple years ago, um,
CCL Canada was Like super psyched
about it because they just started getting their checks in
January of like, I guess it would have been like
2023 or 2022. So I
(13:03):
really, I don't think it's all that old.
Yeah.
>> Zach (13:08):
And my understanding was it was outputting. It
was 70% of
the constituency constituents
were receiving more money than it was costing them.
But it'd be interesting to break it down and uh, see some different
opinions on that and how it was implemented. See if there's any issues with
it. See, we just need to be fixed. But
(13:29):
another episode.
>> Katie (13:31):
Yes. Truly. Yes. I won't go any further. We will save this for another
episode.
>> Zach (13:34):
Pierre Pol there wants to strike a great deal with Trump to increase
Canada's oil and gas exports to the US make both
countries safer and richer, remove all acts passed by the
Liberal government on the environment.
They'll accelerate oil and gas production, scrap the emission
reduction plan,
wants to reduce all bureaucracy. And his
(13:55):
voting record is very anti
environment. He has voted against environmental
protection 400 times as opposed to only
voting in favor of 13 times.
So he.
>> Katie (14:08):
Yeah, uh, I don't like those odds.
>> Zach (14:11):
Not really an environmental bone in his body, but he's very
business oriented.
>> Katie (14:15):
Yeah, no, no, not.
Yeah, not, not good odds if you want to get some
environmental policy passed while this guy's around. It sounds
like.
>> Zach (14:24):
No. He's also pledged to repeal the, uh, certain provinces
in Canada have passed the 30 by 30
commitment to protect 30% of lands and 30% of waters.
And Polver wants to work with, um, local conservative
governments at the, um, province level
to undo those and make sure those
don't happen. He is a carbon
capture enthusiast.
>> Katie (14:46):
No kidding. Two truths and a lie, I guess.
>> Zach (14:51):
And in my research it was hard to find
any solid environmental
policies that he believed in or was
convicted to besides sometimes
throwing oil.
>> Katie (15:04):
Silence. The silence is as loud as what you
say.
>> Zach (15:07):
Yeah. Your lack of
policy is your policy at that
point.
>> Katie (15:14):
Yes. You've told us everything by telling us nothing.
>> Zach (15:18):
And, uh, I view Canadians as usually being more liberal
on a lot of issues such as stuff as the environment. And I feel
like it would be efficient to have some or
any policy just be like, save the animal, save the planet
or something. But he has like
very little that he's firmly committed to.
>> Katie (15:35):
Right. Like we, like. I remember when we were talking about Lee Zeldin, I
always want to say Led Zeppelin. Thanks, Dyslexia. Back when they
made Led Zeppelin head of the epa. I remember even when we were
going through that episode, I was like, man, okay. So
he's like, he's not cruel. He's just got like
a, like he had signed the, the law
against, um, or the law that banned, like,
(15:55):
shark finning and like, a couple other things where I was like,
okay, so he clearly cares about creation to some
extent, even if he doesn't care about climate change. This
guy strikes me a little bit as the, um,
the dude from the Lorax who
is like, how bad can I be? Um,
that's, that's the vibe I'm getting here. The. I don't care. I'm not
(16:16):
going to be around for it. Burn it down, let's make a dollar.
>> Zach (16:18):
Yeah, it's. That's what he's come off as,
which is just like
conservative conservatives asked for the bare. I
guess we asked for the bare minimum from conservatives on the environment
and.
>> Katie (16:30):
For real. Yeah, a lot of them just don't.
>> Zach (16:33):
They're like, nope, we're. We're not going to do
anything except drill, baby, drill.
>> Katie (16:38):
They said when you go low, I go lower.
Thank you, sir. Thanks for that.
>> Zach (16:45):
Well, moving on to his opponent
for. And the current Liberal PM of
Canada took over a couple weeks ago.
Mark Carney. He's got a
bachelor's degree from Harvard University in
Economics, a master's in Economics from University of
Oxford. Uh, he worked for Goldman Sachs and became
managing director of the investment bank banking
(17:07):
portion of the company. Served as the governor of the bank of Canada from
2018, from 2008 to 2013.
So right through the Great
Recession, which must have been very
difficult. And after that, he was
picked as the head of. Head of the bank of England from
2013 to 2020. And he is the first
non British person to ever serve in that
(17:29):
position since the bank of England was founded in
1694.
What a record.
He did. He stepped down as the bank
of England governor when his, uh, term ended in
2020. And he was named Special Envoy on Climate Action
(17:49):
and Finance by UN Secretary Secretary General
Antonio Gutierrez.
And fun fact, Carney is
godfather to Christia Freeland's son. So
he beat out Liberal pm, that is.
>> Katie (18:04):
Dude, I would. That would make Thanksgiving very awkward
for me. I would want to kill my godfather every Thanksgiving.
>> Zach (18:10):
It's just, it's just impressive, like how, like, intermingled I
guess politics can be sometimes.
>> Katie (18:15):
Oh, uh, you mean the rich and elite all hang out with each other no
matter where they're at in the world? No way, Zach. There's no
shot. No way. I just thought that was here.
>> Zach (18:26):
Uh, I have no idea where that's From. But I
hear that constantly. What is that from?
>> Katie (18:34):
I have no idea. I don't even remember. I know what it's from. There's, uh,
this tick tock. It's like a stitch. It blew up.
Uh, the original girl is like one of those cringy,
crunchy white girls. And she's like, I'm gonna be real brave
today. I'm gonna dick dip dick. I'm
gonna dip my chicken quesadilla
in the spicy sauce from Taco
(18:54):
Bell. Let's see how. See how spicy it's gonna be, guys. And obviously it's
like the mild sauce. And the girl stitching her goes,
wow, Chrissy girl.
So now I find myself muttering that every
time something mundane that
people make a big deal out of. Uh, ooh,
Chrissy girl.
>> Zach (19:14):
So now she probably cut part of that.
>> Katie (19:16):
Oh, now leave it in. Everybody in Congress
and Parliament's a crazy girl, so
let's just embrace it.
>> Zach (19:25):
So back to Mark Hardy. Yeah, crazy
Carney, his environmental views.
Um, he's much more pro environment.
Carney, uh, has repeatedly stated that the vast majority
of Earth's remaining reserves of oil and gas and coal
must be left in the ground unburned because burning them
would risk a catastrophic overheating of the planet.
(19:46):
He endorsed a November 2023 report,
somebody with some common sense, by the Energy
Transition Committee, that concluded that 65% of all oil and
gas reserves and 90% of all coal
reserves must be left in the ground. So he is
literally the opposite end on environmental views
to Pierre Pol there. Pierre Polvar couldn't give less than
(20:07):
two craps. And Carney's like, leave it all the way. We're not
touching any more of it. We're going full renewable.
>> Katie (20:13):
Sounds good to me, sir.
>> Zach (20:15):
Yeah. And Cardi went on to order British,
uh, banks to undergo climate stress tests. A theoretical
exercise that check its banks could remain interesting
if fossil fuels became a stranded
asset. And the effect was to encourage a shift away from
fossil fuel investments. He has promised to end.
>> Katie (20:32):
That is really interesting.
>> Zach (20:34):
Yeah. He has promised to end the consumer carbon tax
Trudeau has implemented, meaning Canadians would no
longer pay a tax when they fill up their petrol tanks or
heat their homes. Instead, the burden would shift
to corporate polluters.
>> Katie (20:48):
So I kind of agree with that. I'm sorry?
I kind of agree with that. I think I kind of agree
with that a little bit.
>> Zach (20:55):
Yeah. This is where we need to do a carbon. A Canadian
carbon tax breakdown to understand the differences
between the consumer carbon tax and the corporate
polluters Carbon tax Because I think usually when we speak about carbon
tax, we usually go the corporate
polluters angle.
>> Katie (21:11):
Mhm. Yeah. And I would love to compare it to, I know, the
American carbon tax that CCL has been a big
proponent of. M. Just to see where they stand. Because I know that the, the
American carbon tax had provided a lot of exceptions for
like, agriculture, mainstream
transportation, military, things like that.
Then of course, one of the big concerns with the American carbon tax
was that, you know, who would be eligible to get it. It was low
(21:34):
and middle income Americans. So there were a lot of Native
Americans who were concerned that they would be left out, a lot of
undocumented people who were concerned that they'd be left out. So I'm very interested
to see not just from like the consumer versus
corporate angle in Canada, but how they also grapple
with a lot of that social stuff because they have a very large
Native American pop. Well, indigenous population as
well. Um, and just to see like, I guess, compare and
(21:56):
contrast, like their carbon tax versus what
we would want for an American carbon tax, what we've
traditionally lobbied for and advocated for.
>> Zach (22:07):
Yeah.
>> Katie (22:08):
Oh, I hear Zach frantically typing in the background.
>> Zach (22:13):
Yeah. So I'm interested to know like, how much
the consumer carbon tax raised
the price of gasoline in their provinces
because it sounds like that would be a direct painful
economic impact to everyday citizens who
are just driving and.
>> Katie (22:29):
Oh, for sure, for sure.
>> Zach (22:31):
I'm sure. I heard there's some good public transport in
some, some of the cities in Canada, but like, it's a very large country. If you
need to get around, you're gonna need to drive a
lot.
>> Katie (22:41):
Yeah, yeah, they've kind of got the
American problem. It always shocks me when
European countries are like, oh my God, you guys can't just
like get on a train and be there in like
30 minutes? Like, what, are you kidding me?
Like you can drive for 24 hours here and still not get
where you're trying to go. It's crazy.
>> Zach (23:01):
So what I'm reading is that the price of gas
went up 18 cents per
liter.
>> Katie (23:08):
That I speak metric system. What's up?
>> Zach (23:10):
Yeah.
>> Katie (23:14):
Yeah. Uh, you're the math gal that you convert. I was
no good at stoichiometry. I'll just wait and see
what that comes out to. I'll leave that to our numbers
folks to crunch the numbers on.
>> Zach (23:25):
Where's my Calculator live?
>> Katie (23:28):
Zach's facts. So tweet your favorite
Zach fact.
>> Zach (23:31):
There's 3.7 liters in a gallon. So would
it raise the m price of gas
66.66.6 cents
per gallon, which is. That's a lot.
>> Katie (23:42):
Yeah. That's not good. That's bad. Okay. That's
real bad. That would make me pretty mad too. All right. Yep.
>> Zach (23:48):
If you did that in America, there would be mass riots basically,
instantly.
>> Katie (23:51):
Dude, People would burn down. I'm not kidding. People would
start burning stuff down and leaving stickers all over the
pump that said I did that or like whoever it was.
So I can see why even, like.
>> Zach (24:03):
I can see why Carney even who's comes off as super left
wing, like as far as you can go in the environment is even pulling back
from the carbon. The consumer carbon tax to get away from
m. That direct impact on Canadians that might have been untenable
to. Yeah, that's supporting that.
>> Katie (24:17):
Just not economically feasible. Especially not with world
economy being the way that it is right now. It's just not possible.
>> Zach (24:24):
Yeah. So hopefully they can reform their
carbon tax and figure out how to do it properly to
slow carbon pollution from their country and
also not screw their people
over. But it would be nice if
Pierre.
>> Katie (24:37):
Pulver, believe it or not, you can have a good economy and a good
environment.
>> Zach (24:41):
Yeah. Be nice if Pierre Pulver had an
alternative that wasn't just forget the environment
exists and don't worry about it. We're just gonna pull out as much
gas as fast.
>> Katie (24:50):
Which is often the conservative right. And it seems
like that's often the conservative solution. You'll have the Liberal
Party wherever it is. Say we, uh, have XYZ
platform for the environment. And conservatives are not
even like, ours is the opposite. They're just like, we don't have one
that ain't real. We're not playing ball.
>> Zach (25:07):
We would just like one policy discuss. Be like, I support nuclear
or something or geothermal.
>> Katie (25:12):
Yeah. Like, we don't even have to talk about all the other stuff. Like, just pick one
policy that you guys think is good. And let's go on that.
>> Zach (25:17):
Yeah. If you see my references for Pierre Pol there, I did. There's a
lot more references for him because I had to find. Look a lot harder to find
anything on the environment. And I still did not come up with much.
>> Katie (25:26):
I just want to like call him and be like, hey, real quick, can we get a
quote? Uh, we're not American. We're just
curious after all the research we did, like,
do you give shit or do you throw your car battery in the ocean? Don't lie.
>> Zach (25:37):
Yeah. And because of the lack of policy he had, basically,
I was just a lot of things I found was people being like,
pierre Polar has no environmental policy. This is what that
means. I was like, okay, this is not super helpful.
>> Katie (25:48):
And him doing nothing to disprove the people who were saying
that, like them being like,
you have no environmental policy and him going correct. So
pretty much that's the point exactly.
We worked real hard on this follow.
>> Zach (26:01):
Up episode to come a deep dive on Canadians carbon tax
and its impacts on, um, the economy, the environment,
pollution, how effective it was and if we think
it should be fully revealed or if we think it should be
upgraded or maybe it was doing just fine. But as of
now, I kind of lean Mark Carney. I do have a certain
trust in someone who has an economics degree from.
>> Katie (26:22):
Oxford running well and who like here,
Zach. I set the bar so low for environmentalism
these days. For me my big thing is
the average working class
citizen, I don't even care if it's American at this point. Is the
average working class citizen who lives paycheck to
paycheck and pays $8 for eggs
going to be able to support whatever
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environmental policy you propose and its
economic ramifications? That is it.
That is the only question I
really even have these days to determine whether or
not an environmental policy is worth
pursuing. Are you going to punish
low income and working class Americans or people? Yeah, I
don't care.
>> Zach (27:04):
What are you doing to support people who are not able to
afford these environmental stresses while working
on the environment?
>> Katie (27:11):
Because for me, I mean, uh, as a conservative, being
pro environment is pro life. So I don't know that you can,
you know, say, oh, well, we're going to clean up the environment and improve your
quality of life for when you sleep under a bridge because you
couldn't afford the economic repercussions of us,
uh, improving your quality of life like that, that just cancels
it. It's a moot point then. So I mean, you've got
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to find a way to bring conservatives to the table
to talk environmental policy to make sure that you don't have like a Green
New Deal where, oh well, whoever's the
1%, because there always will be one, will just pay for it. The money will
just come falling right out of this guy. And like, okay, all
right, buddy. So this is exactly why
you need economically sound conservatives. Because
(27:52):
I mean, honestly, after hearing about Mark Carney's like
economic positions and his environmental positions, if he like
ran as a conservative, I'd probably vote for him here in the United States. Not
gonna lie. So, like, I think that we just need
more politicians who are economically
sound from the perspective of somebody who doesn't make
six figures a year like the majority of America.
>> Zach (28:12):
Yeah, I do not do have time to do a full dive on the rest of
their policies, but yeah, I trust someone
with thorough economics education more than. I
guess international relations degree is important, but. Mhm,
not the most important.
>> Katie (28:25):
I guess not if you don't know how to relate to people
internationally. So just another degree for
the pile. Just
another fancy piece of paper to put on your wall.
>> Zach (28:35):
All right, should we wrap up our closing?
>> Katie (28:37):
I think so. Action steps. You know what? Let's do a fun
one. Tell us your favorite Zach fact from this
episode. Because he even did conversions for us on the
air. Isn't that crazy? I could never do math. If I had a gun to
my head and somebody was like, convert liters to
gallons. I'd be like, you better pull that trigger because, uh, I'll just
save his boat some time. It ain't happening. So let us
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know your favorite Zach fact from today's episode. If you
think it's cool that people know math. Um, because I'm not one of
those people who know math. Let us know your thoughts. Let us
know what you think about the American carbon price and what
you think about the Canadian carbon price and all of the
hoopla that's been going on up there that seems to be
almost like a foil of everything going on here. Good
times.
(29:17):
So let's move into our closing for you,
our listener. Email us with your thoughts. Our
email is
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>> Zach (29:28):
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>> Katie (30:20):
Thank you, everybody.
>> Zach (30:34):
Wonder if we're gonna get any Canadian listeners.
>> Katie (30:36):
A. Yeah, A. Do you think those
Canadians are gonna know what we're talking about? Do you think they're gonna.
Those are the only two Canadian words I know.
>> Zach (30:43):
Abu.
>> Katie (30:43):
Uh, an A. Okay, let's Google more Canadian
words. Fun Canadian words.
Words, Words. Oh, God, I don't know any
of these. What? What?
Poutine. What the hell's a poutine?
>> Zach (30:56):
Do you know what poutine is?
>> Katie (30:58):
No, what is that? A, uh, dish
of French fries and cheese curds
topped with a brown gravy. I don't know if I should
be appalled or if I want three
bowls.
Yeah, I'll give it a shot. Hoser, hoser,
hoser, hoser, hoser.
>> Zach (31:17):
Oh, this is Wisconsin.
>> Katie (31:18):
I don't know. A. Okay, I got that one. That one's
easy. We've got some of these. Um. I'm
concerned. Some of these sound like they could be slurs. I
don't. Jeez. This your
bunny hug? What is that?
>> Zach (31:32):
They are French. You gotta remember that. So.
>> Katie (31:35):
Yeah, I know, because I saw half these words and I was like, I don't know
how these are pronounced. Canuck.
>> Zach (31:40):
What Other Canucks.
>> Katie (31:43):
Informal term for Canadian. I thought that's what a hosier was. A
hoser. Hoser. Is it S
or Z? Hose or hoj? What
is going on? You see, this is why I'm glad to be American.
I know how to say our words. Hang a
Larry. What the hell is that?
What's a Larry? Who's a. What's a Roger?
(32:03):
What? It, uh, apparently. Okay. Hang a
Larry means left turn.
Hangarodger means right turn.
Don't know why we needed specific phrases for
that, but that's good to know.
>> Zach (32:17):
Um, yeah, I think I'm over complicated.
>> Katie (32:20):
Yeah, that's, uh.
>> Zach (32:21):
These are terms I will never use.
>> Katie (32:23):
Yeah, these aren't fun. Okay, let's stick to A
and a boot and
Tim Hortons or whatever.
>> Zach (32:31):
All right. Good episode, Katie.
>> Katie (32:33):
Thank you. Have a good one.
Hello, and welcome to the Green Tea Party, where we discuss
conservative solutions to environmental problems. My name is Zach
Torpy.
>> Katie (00:12):
And I'm Katie Zakreski. Together, we'll guide you
through complex issues and provide strategies to address
them all while remaining faithful to our conservative
values.
>> Zach (00:22):
Trust me, it'll be a good time.
>> Katie (00:24):
Yeah, it's a party, so grab your mugs
and we'll pour the tea.
>> Zach (00:32):
Katie, I wanted to make sure there are no random, uh,
journalists in our group chat. I guess that's worth
the check.
>> Katie (00:39):
Oh, my God. My God. I have got to
tell you about a meme I saw today. The moment I saw it, I was like, yep,
that one's going to Zach. Um, let me see it. It
was. Okay, I've almost got it right here. It was the Lord of
the Rings, Aragon. M says, you have my sword, and
Legolas goes, you have my bow, and Gimli goes, and my
axe. And then it's Saruman going, am I supposed to be in this group
chat? So, yeah,
(01:01):
um, that. Yeah, I. I also saw the meme, and it's
the guy standing in the corner at the party with the party hat
on, and he's got the. The beer in his hand, and it says, they
don't know that I'm the editor in chief of the Atlantic. That was
also. That was also a really good meme. So. Yeah.
>> Zach (01:15):
You know how he even gets invited?
>> Katie (01:16):
Yeah. Like, how did. How do you just randomly, like, add
somebody like that into your group chat and not know who it is? Like,
that's just. That's just so crazy to me. That. Like, what.
That little. That. That little. I say, as if it
wasn't at all important. Do you remember the guy, I think he was from Texas?
Uh, the. The airman who, like, leaked the
nuclear launch codes or whatever in his Discord server. That dude
(01:37):
got nine years. That dude got nine
years for that. And then the Secretary of Defense
just did it, and he gets paid six figures, so what do I
know? Oh, my.
>> Zach (01:49):
Uh.
>> Katie (01:49):
But he does 47 a day for the president.
You and I both know there will be
absolutely nothing that happens to that guy.
>> Zach (01:58):
This is so stupid. Something has to happen. Like, it's just
ridiculous, Embarrassing.
>> Katie (02:02):
You. I, uh. Dude, if they don't do anything, they better
release that. That guy that they put in nine. Put in prison
for nine years for doing it in Discord. Like,
I don't. I don't see how you could have one dude in jail for a decade
and then the other guy making six figures in government
salary. I Don't really know how you make that
argument.
>> Zach (02:20):
Yeah, sorry.
>> Katie (02:22):
Yeah. So no. So no random journalists in this here
laughs in AP style. Yeah. No. So if
you're gonna drop any of your juicy secrets, I promise.
Winky face. I'm not a journalist. Winky
face. So, yeah, crazy times here in the United
States of America. Yeah, but it sounds like this is not
the only place that's having crazy going on.
>> Zach (02:41):
Hey, as you may
not understand our terrible reference in
attempted accent, we are going to talk about
Canada's election. I'm not sure if
they actually called. I don't think they've called the election
yet. But it's widely expected that
the new Liberal PM will
call for a snap election in the next
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couple weeks.
>> Katie (03:05):
Okay, uh, also side tangent, tangent, before we
even get into the main tangent, is like every other country in the world
like prone to snap elections except us? Because it
seems like other countries just be doing snap elections like all the time
just because they feel like it is for like,
what, how does that work? Like, does everybody have to go out and
vote because we can't even get our folks to do it once
(03:25):
every four years. I can't imagine like having just like an
ambiguous schedule.
>> Zach (03:30):
Yeah, so it's the parliamentary system. They can call
snap elections and
just be like, oh, we don't like how the country's being run.
Let's redo elections, see if we get more power, see if we lose
and get a mandate.
>> Katie (03:46):
Imagine having a parliament. El Bozo
move all that
congress. Come back when you're ready to act like
a real country. Canada.
Lame. Just, just Canadian things.
>> Zach (04:00):
The future of 51st State.
>> Katie (04:03):
Yeah, I don't know what the a kilometer is and I
don't care.
>> Zach (04:09):
And so they have called their snap election since
they a couple hours ago. Since I wrote
this episode, an election has
been called for by Mark Carney, the current
Liberal PM of Canada.
>> Katie (04:22):
See, we weren't lying when we said the news changes
so fast around here that sometimes it
changes live on the show.
>> Zach (04:30):
Yep. And he was
that he is calling it for this because he is so
he is gaining steam and gaining confidence and winning. When the
Liberal Party a couple weeks ago, before Trump was
elected, was dead and presumed that the Conservatives were
going to win like 70% of the seats and now
it's got the greatest, the
(04:50):
greatest international influence.
>> Katie (04:52):
We have single handedly killed
conservatism in North America.
It is all part of the liberal
agenda to use me to
destroy conservatism in Canada. Well,
they're doing a pretty good Job. Great
work.
So let's talk a little more
about that.
>> Zach (05:13):
So the candidate on the
Conservative side is Pierre Polever,
and he's the current leader of the Conservative Party.
He's got a degree in international relations from
the University of Calgary and was president
of the Conservative club there. In
2004, at the age of 25, he was elected
(05:34):
to the House of Commons. Wow. In the
district of Ottawa. Uh.
>> Katie (05:38):
Wow. And I'm 26 and I weigh 400 pounds. So
clearly, if you're looking for inspiration, you've come to the wrong
place. But good job, Pierre.
>> Zach (05:45):
Yeah. In 2006, only two years
in parliament, he was promoted to
be a parliamentary secretary to the
Prime Minister, Stephen Harper. So
parliamentary secretary is like an
assistant to a minister in Canada, and a minister
is a secretary in the U.S. like the secretary of State or
the Secretary of Action.
>> Katie (06:06):
Okay, so he's like a secretary for a
secretary.
>> Zach (06:11):
Yes.
>> Katie (06:11):
Did I get that wrong? Secretary to a.
>> Zach (06:13):
Uh, he is the advisor to
what would be their. Like, Secretary of Agriculture,
I think.
>> Katie (06:19):
Interesting. Okay. Okay, that makes more
sense. Okay. I'm just silly. End of a long workday.
Pardon me. Take it away with more Zach
frags.
>> Zach (06:28):
So the parliamentary secretaries are chosen by the Prime Minister
and carry out their responsibilities set out by the Prime
Minister to whom they are assigned. So he served
as the Democratic reform.
He served as Minister for democratic reform from 2013
and 2015. And.
(06:49):
And, um. Read my notes.
And then. And after 2015, he was elected
to be the leader of Conservative Party in 2022,
when he was a major opposition to Trudeau championing the
freedom convoy of truck drivers who went and shut
down Ottawa and railed against the COVID 19
lockdowns and
basically just railed and hated Trudeau so
(07:12):
much. And you know what? The media turned on Trudeau,
and eventually they're like, yeah, this guy's got a point. This guy.
>> Katie (07:17):
I'll drink to that. That sounds good to me.
All right. Yeah, whatever. Let's go with that. All right, we're
sick and tired of this bandwagon. Let's hop on a new one.
>> Zach (07:26):
So he will be the candidate.
>> Katie (07:28):
Dude. Dude. For also crazy aside,
the Freedom convoy was three
years ago. Oh, my God.
That felt like it was last November.
Are you dead, ass? That was three years ago.
>> Zach (07:43):
It was a while ago.
>> Katie (07:45):
God, I need a nap or a vacation.
>> Zach (07:47):
A while ago.
>> Katie (07:48):
Now it feels like five years ago, bro.
Five. Five years
ago. Oh, my God. Five years ago. Covid
was five years ago. Okay, that's enough. Ah. That's enough.
All Right. Thanks for listening to Green Tea Party Radio. Um, if
you want.
All right, let's hear more.
>> Zach (08:06):
Yeah. So he will be the
candidate for the Conservative sides going up against Mark Carney
for the prime to be the Prime Minister of
Canada. His political views. He's
the Liberal Party. The Liberal Party of Canada
labeled him as the Canadian version of Trump,
which is, as you might have guessed, not very
(08:26):
popular in Canada nowadays.
>> Katie (08:28):
Not really like, a compliment either, if you're, like, literally
anybody.
>> Zach (08:31):
So, yeah, he.
They've been running ads of
Pierre Polever and Trump speaking back
to back, and the Liberal Party
being like, see, like, mimicking the same lines as Trump. He's gonna be
the same guy. He's. But he does have much.
He's a much better speaker, much clearer rhetoric
(08:51):
and more professional instead of.
>> Katie (08:54):
That's not possible. We've got the best speakers, Zach.
It's literally not possible. We've got
the biggest, the hugest, the grandest of
them all of all the speakers.
And I've seen speakers I don't think Trump knows either.
So it's like. It's
in its own dialect of, like, Northeastern
(09:15):
dialects. It's kind of like pidgin in the South.
It's like that, but, like, only, like, the 1%
can speak it.
>> Zach (09:22):
So the Conservative Party is a little different from the Conservative party
in the U.S. they're actually. They've come out as pro
immigration as a way to
deal with, um, to keep the economy running and bringing
in people. It's like the, uh,
70s, 80s, 60s America, where it's like, bring in,
come into our country and join our culture and we'll
(09:42):
improve. Even though.
>> Katie (09:44):
Yeah. Because they're probably getting, like, millions of Americans to move up there
every single year right now. So that
makes sense. They're probably eager to get these guys.
>> Zach (09:52):
Some jobs, but they are. They do know the classics.
They want to cut bureaucracy, they want to cut consultants, they
want to cut foreign aid, cut back in corporate welfare
to large corporations.
And, uh, they're just looking to go and cut the size of the government,
reduce withdrawal, some traditional
Conservative values. And Pierre
(10:12):
Polvaire is also very against the Canadian
carbon tax, which was introduced under
Trudeau's government and has been a central issue of
the attack against Liberal government. The famous slogan
is axe the tax, which is.
>> Katie (10:26):
Which normally I would agree with, but here I don't.
>> Zach (10:29):
It's a great slogan.
>> Katie (10:32):
Yeah. Oh, my God. It's absolutely criminal
how easy the campaign was
around getting rid of the carbon price and how
everybody who was a proponent of it Was just kind of like, yeah,
you guys are right. This was dumb. Like,
really? Are you serious? Like, are you deadass right now?
You're just gonna lay there and take that, man? Like, get up,
(10:52):
get up. It's me, like, poking the Canadian government with a
stick, being like, please give these guys something
down here to look forward to. Please.
>> Zach (11:01):
So we will be doing a deep dive on the Canadian carbon tax
and what its impact was. I have seen some good statistics
on it, but I want to do a full breakdown and see where
those numbers are coming from.
>> Katie (11:11):
Do you want to pick your brain before we move on, though? Do. Do
you think the Canadian
Conservatives have been hard on the carbon tax
literally, just because it was easy to dunk on Trudeau
for the last couple years? Like, do you think if anybody else had done it
and the situation was different, that they kind of would be like, we
don't really care? Like, do you think it was just, like, things
lined up perfectly to be like, we hate Trudeau and that means,
(11:34):
like, anything even remotely that came out from under him,
like, do you think they're genuine? Do you think it's convenience, or
do you think it's a little bit of both?
>> Zach (11:41):
I think Trudeau was very much wrapped around
the carbon tax and intermingled, so he couldn't be separated from
it. So it was an easy way to attack him and attack the Liberal
Party, huh? And it was basically
the easiest way that they could be like, this is the reason for
all your problems. This is what's wrong. There's nothing else.
>> Katie (11:59):
So it's almost like their equivalent of when Biden
was like, I did the Inflation Reduction Act. Like,
this was my, like, moral
grandstand. Like, so now Conservatives are,
like, absolutely frothing at the mouth when people bring up the
Inflation Reduction act, in spite of the fact that a lot of the
provisions in it go to red states. It sounds like this is
kind of like a mirror of what they had going on
(12:21):
with their carbon tax. It sounds like just because it was so wrapped around
one identity of an individual as opposed to,
like, a parliamentary wide
achievement.
>> Zach (12:31):
And I don't know the history of the Canadian Carmen tax, but I would
assume that it wasn't done on bipartisan manner. I
think the Liberals had a very. A very strong majority at some point and
passed it.
>> Katie (12:41):
Probably it hadn't been around for more than a few
years either, because our. I don't think. Anyway, don't quote
me on that, but I remember even at
Citizens Climate Lobby here a couple years ago, um,
CCL Canada was Like super psyched
about it because they just started getting their checks in
January of like, I guess it would have been like
2023 or 2022. So I
(13:03):
really, I don't think it's all that old.
Yeah.
>> Zach (13:08):
And my understanding was it was outputting. It
was 70% of
the constituency constituents
were receiving more money than it was costing them.
But it'd be interesting to break it down and uh, see some different
opinions on that and how it was implemented. See if there's any issues with
it. See, we just need to be fixed. But
(13:29):
another episode.
>> Katie (13:31):
Yes. Truly. Yes. I won't go any further. We will save this for another
episode.
>> Zach (13:34):
Pierre Pol there wants to strike a great deal with Trump to increase
Canada's oil and gas exports to the US make both
countries safer and richer, remove all acts passed by the
Liberal government on the environment.
They'll accelerate oil and gas production, scrap the emission
reduction plan,
wants to reduce all bureaucracy. And his
(13:55):
voting record is very anti
environment. He has voted against environmental
protection 400 times as opposed to only
voting in favor of 13 times.
So he.
>> Katie (14:08):
Yeah, uh, I don't like those odds.
>> Zach (14:11):
Not really an environmental bone in his body, but he's very
business oriented.
>> Katie (14:15):
Yeah, no, no, not.
Yeah, not, not good odds if you want to get some
environmental policy passed while this guy's around. It sounds
like.
>> Zach (14:24):
No. He's also pledged to repeal the, uh, certain provinces
in Canada have passed the 30 by 30
commitment to protect 30% of lands and 30% of waters.
And Polver wants to work with, um, local conservative
governments at the, um, province level
to undo those and make sure those
don't happen. He is a carbon
capture enthusiast.
>> Katie (14:46):
No kidding. Two truths and a lie, I guess.
>> Zach (14:51):
And in my research it was hard to find
any solid environmental
policies that he believed in or was
convicted to besides sometimes
throwing oil.
>> Katie (15:04):
Silence. The silence is as loud as what you
say.
>> Zach (15:07):
Yeah. Your lack of
policy is your policy at that
point.
>> Katie (15:14):
Yes. You've told us everything by telling us nothing.
>> Zach (15:18):
And, uh, I view Canadians as usually being more liberal
on a lot of issues such as stuff as the environment. And I feel
like it would be efficient to have some or
any policy just be like, save the animal, save the planet
or something. But he has like
very little that he's firmly committed to.
>> Katie (15:35):
Right. Like we, like. I remember when we were talking about Lee Zeldin, I
always want to say Led Zeppelin. Thanks, Dyslexia. Back when they
made Led Zeppelin head of the epa. I remember even when we were
going through that episode, I was like, man, okay. So
he's like, he's not cruel. He's just got like
a, like he had signed the, the law
against, um, or the law that banned, like,
(15:55):
shark finning and like, a couple other things where I was like,
okay, so he clearly cares about creation to some
extent, even if he doesn't care about climate change. This
guy strikes me a little bit as the, um,
the dude from the Lorax who
is like, how bad can I be? Um,
that's, that's the vibe I'm getting here. The. I don't care. I'm not
(16:16):
going to be around for it. Burn it down, let's make a dollar.
>> Zach (16:18):
Yeah, it's. That's what he's come off as,
which is just like
conservative conservatives asked for the bare. I
guess we asked for the bare minimum from conservatives on the environment
and.
>> Katie (16:30):
For real. Yeah, a lot of them just don't.
>> Zach (16:33):
They're like, nope, we're. We're not going to do
anything except drill, baby, drill.
>> Katie (16:38):
They said when you go low, I go lower.
Thank you, sir. Thanks for that.
>> Zach (16:45):
Well, moving on to his opponent
for. And the current Liberal PM of
Canada took over a couple weeks ago.
Mark Carney. He's got a
bachelor's degree from Harvard University in
Economics, a master's in Economics from University of
Oxford. Uh, he worked for Goldman Sachs and became
managing director of the investment bank banking
(17:07):
portion of the company. Served as the governor of the bank of Canada from
2018, from 2008 to 2013.
So right through the Great
Recession, which must have been very
difficult. And after that, he was
picked as the head of. Head of the bank of England from
2013 to 2020. And he is the first
non British person to ever serve in that
(17:29):
position since the bank of England was founded in
1694.
What a record.
He did. He stepped down as the bank
of England governor when his, uh, term ended in
2020. And he was named Special Envoy on Climate Action
(17:49):
and Finance by UN Secretary Secretary General
Antonio Gutierrez.
And fun fact, Carney is
godfather to Christia Freeland's son. So
he beat out Liberal pm, that is.
>> Katie (18:04):
Dude, I would. That would make Thanksgiving very awkward
for me. I would want to kill my godfather every Thanksgiving.
>> Zach (18:10):
It's just, it's just impressive, like how, like, intermingled I
guess politics can be sometimes.
>> Katie (18:15):
Oh, uh, you mean the rich and elite all hang out with each other no
matter where they're at in the world? No way, Zach. There's no
shot. No way. I just thought that was here.
>> Zach (18:26):
Uh, I have no idea where that's From. But I
hear that constantly. What is that from?
>> Katie (18:34):
I have no idea. I don't even remember. I know what it's from. There's, uh,
this tick tock. It's like a stitch. It blew up.
Uh, the original girl is like one of those cringy,
crunchy white girls. And she's like, I'm gonna be real brave
today. I'm gonna dick dip dick. I'm
gonna dip my chicken quesadilla
in the spicy sauce from Taco
(18:54):
Bell. Let's see how. See how spicy it's gonna be, guys. And obviously it's
like the mild sauce. And the girl stitching her goes,
wow, Chrissy girl.
So now I find myself muttering that every
time something mundane that
people make a big deal out of. Uh, ooh,
Chrissy girl.
>> Zach (19:14):
So now she probably cut part of that.
>> Katie (19:16):
Oh, now leave it in. Everybody in Congress
and Parliament's a crazy girl, so
let's just embrace it.
>> Zach (19:25):
So back to Mark Hardy. Yeah, crazy
Carney, his environmental views.
Um, he's much more pro environment.
Carney, uh, has repeatedly stated that the vast majority
of Earth's remaining reserves of oil and gas and coal
must be left in the ground unburned because burning them
would risk a catastrophic overheating of the planet.
(19:46):
He endorsed a November 2023 report,
somebody with some common sense, by the Energy
Transition Committee, that concluded that 65% of all oil and
gas reserves and 90% of all coal
reserves must be left in the ground. So he is
literally the opposite end on environmental views
to Pierre Pol there. Pierre Polvar couldn't give less than
(20:07):
two craps. And Carney's like, leave it all the way. We're not
touching any more of it. We're going full renewable.
>> Katie (20:13):
Sounds good to me, sir.
>> Zach (20:15):
Yeah. And Cardi went on to order British,
uh, banks to undergo climate stress tests. A theoretical
exercise that check its banks could remain interesting
if fossil fuels became a stranded
asset. And the effect was to encourage a shift away from
fossil fuel investments. He has promised to end.
>> Katie (20:32):
That is really interesting.
>> Zach (20:34):
Yeah. He has promised to end the consumer carbon tax
Trudeau has implemented, meaning Canadians would no
longer pay a tax when they fill up their petrol tanks or
heat their homes. Instead, the burden would shift
to corporate polluters.
>> Katie (20:48):
So I kind of agree with that. I'm sorry?
I kind of agree with that. I think I kind of agree
with that a little bit.
>> Zach (20:55):
Yeah. This is where we need to do a carbon. A Canadian
carbon tax breakdown to understand the differences
between the consumer carbon tax and the corporate
polluters Carbon tax Because I think usually when we speak about carbon
tax, we usually go the corporate
polluters angle.
>> Katie (21:11):
Mhm. Yeah. And I would love to compare it to, I know, the
American carbon tax that CCL has been a big
proponent of. M. Just to see where they stand. Because I know that the, the
American carbon tax had provided a lot of exceptions for
like, agriculture, mainstream
transportation, military, things like that.
Then of course, one of the big concerns with the American carbon tax
was that, you know, who would be eligible to get it. It was low
(21:34):
and middle income Americans. So there were a lot of Native
Americans who were concerned that they would be left out, a lot of
undocumented people who were concerned that they'd be left out. So I'm very interested
to see not just from like the consumer versus
corporate angle in Canada, but how they also grapple
with a lot of that social stuff because they have a very large
Native American pop. Well, indigenous population as
well. Um, and just to see like, I guess, compare and
(21:56):
contrast, like their carbon tax versus what
we would want for an American carbon tax, what we've
traditionally lobbied for and advocated for.
>> Zach (22:07):
Yeah.
>> Katie (22:08):
Oh, I hear Zach frantically typing in the background.
>> Zach (22:13):
Yeah. So I'm interested to know like, how much
the consumer carbon tax raised
the price of gasoline in their provinces
because it sounds like that would be a direct painful
economic impact to everyday citizens who
are just driving and.
>> Katie (22:29):
Oh, for sure, for sure.
>> Zach (22:31):
I'm sure. I heard there's some good public transport in
some, some of the cities in Canada, but like, it's a very large country. If you
need to get around, you're gonna need to drive a
lot.
>> Katie (22:41):
Yeah, yeah, they've kind of got the
American problem. It always shocks me when
European countries are like, oh my God, you guys can't just
like get on a train and be there in like
30 minutes? Like, what, are you kidding me?
Like you can drive for 24 hours here and still not get
where you're trying to go. It's crazy.
>> Zach (23:01):
So what I'm reading is that the price of gas
went up 18 cents per
liter.
>> Katie (23:08):
That I speak metric system. What's up?
>> Zach (23:10):
Yeah.
>> Katie (23:14):
Yeah. Uh, you're the math gal that you convert. I was
no good at stoichiometry. I'll just wait and see
what that comes out to. I'll leave that to our numbers
folks to crunch the numbers on.
>> Zach (23:25):
Where's my Calculator live?
>> Katie (23:28):
Zach's facts. So tweet your favorite
Zach fact.
>> Zach (23:31):
There's 3.7 liters in a gallon. So would
it raise the m price of gas
66.66.6 cents
per gallon, which is. That's a lot.
>> Katie (23:42):
Yeah. That's not good. That's bad. Okay. That's
real bad. That would make me pretty mad too. All right. Yep.
>> Zach (23:48):
If you did that in America, there would be mass riots basically,
instantly.
>> Katie (23:51):
Dude, People would burn down. I'm not kidding. People would
start burning stuff down and leaving stickers all over the
pump that said I did that or like whoever it was.
So I can see why even, like.
>> Zach (24:03):
I can see why Carney even who's comes off as super left
wing, like as far as you can go in the environment is even pulling back
from the carbon. The consumer carbon tax to get away from
m. That direct impact on Canadians that might have been untenable
to. Yeah, that's supporting that.
>> Katie (24:17):
Just not economically feasible. Especially not with world
economy being the way that it is right now. It's just not possible.
>> Zach (24:24):
Yeah. So hopefully they can reform their
carbon tax and figure out how to do it properly to
slow carbon pollution from their country and
also not screw their people
over. But it would be nice if
Pierre.
>> Katie (24:37):
Pulver, believe it or not, you can have a good economy and a good
environment.
>> Zach (24:41):
Yeah. Be nice if Pierre Pulver had an
alternative that wasn't just forget the environment
exists and don't worry about it. We're just gonna pull out as much
gas as fast.
>> Katie (24:50):
Which is often the conservative right. And it seems
like that's often the conservative solution. You'll have the Liberal
Party wherever it is. Say we, uh, have XYZ
platform for the environment. And conservatives are not
even like, ours is the opposite. They're just like, we don't have one
that ain't real. We're not playing ball.
>> Zach (25:07):
We would just like one policy discuss. Be like, I support nuclear
or something or geothermal.
>> Katie (25:12):
Yeah. Like, we don't even have to talk about all the other stuff. Like, just pick one
policy that you guys think is good. And let's go on that.
>> Zach (25:17):
Yeah. If you see my references for Pierre Pol there, I did. There's a
lot more references for him because I had to find. Look a lot harder to find
anything on the environment. And I still did not come up with much.
>> Katie (25:26):
I just want to like call him and be like, hey, real quick, can we get a
quote? Uh, we're not American. We're just
curious after all the research we did, like,
do you give shit or do you throw your car battery in the ocean? Don't lie.
>> Zach (25:37):
Yeah. And because of the lack of policy he had, basically,
I was just a lot of things I found was people being like,
pierre Polar has no environmental policy. This is what that
means. I was like, okay, this is not super helpful.
>> Katie (25:48):
And him doing nothing to disprove the people who were saying
that, like them being like,
you have no environmental policy and him going correct. So
pretty much that's the point exactly.
We worked real hard on this follow.
>> Zach (26:01):
Up episode to come a deep dive on Canadians carbon tax
and its impacts on, um, the economy, the environment,
pollution, how effective it was and if we think
it should be fully revealed or if we think it should be
upgraded or maybe it was doing just fine. But as of
now, I kind of lean Mark Carney. I do have a certain
trust in someone who has an economics degree from.
>> Katie (26:22):
Oxford running well and who like here,
Zach. I set the bar so low for environmentalism
these days. For me my big thing is
the average working class
citizen, I don't even care if it's American at this point. Is the
average working class citizen who lives paycheck to
paycheck and pays $8 for eggs
going to be able to support whatever
(26:43):
environmental policy you propose and its
economic ramifications? That is it.
That is the only question I
really even have these days to determine whether or
not an environmental policy is worth
pursuing. Are you going to punish
low income and working class Americans or people? Yeah, I
don't care.
>> Zach (27:04):
What are you doing to support people who are not able to
afford these environmental stresses while working
on the environment?
>> Katie (27:11):
Because for me, I mean, uh, as a conservative, being
pro environment is pro life. So I don't know that you can,
you know, say, oh, well, we're going to clean up the environment and improve your
quality of life for when you sleep under a bridge because you
couldn't afford the economic repercussions of us,
uh, improving your quality of life like that, that just cancels
it. It's a moot point then. So I mean, you've got
(27:31):
to find a way to bring conservatives to the table
to talk environmental policy to make sure that you don't have like a Green
New Deal where, oh well, whoever's the
1%, because there always will be one, will just pay for it. The money will
just come falling right out of this guy. And like, okay, all
right, buddy. So this is exactly why
you need economically sound conservatives. Because
(27:52):
I mean, honestly, after hearing about Mark Carney's like
economic positions and his environmental positions, if he like
ran as a conservative, I'd probably vote for him here in the United States. Not
gonna lie. So, like, I think that we just need
more politicians who are economically
sound from the perspective of somebody who doesn't make
six figures a year like the majority of America.
>> Zach (28:12):
Yeah, I do not do have time to do a full dive on the rest of
their policies, but yeah, I trust someone
with thorough economics education more than. I
guess international relations degree is important, but. Mhm,
not the most important.
>> Katie (28:25):
I guess not if you don't know how to relate to people
internationally. So just another degree for
the pile. Just
another fancy piece of paper to put on your wall.
>> Zach (28:35):
All right, should we wrap up our closing?
>> Katie (28:37):
I think so. Action steps. You know what? Let's do a fun
one. Tell us your favorite Zach fact from this
episode. Because he even did conversions for us on the
air. Isn't that crazy? I could never do math. If I had a gun to
my head and somebody was like, convert liters to
gallons. I'd be like, you better pull that trigger because, uh, I'll just
save his boat some time. It ain't happening. So let us
(28:57):
know your favorite Zach fact from today's episode. If you
think it's cool that people know math. Um, because I'm not one of
those people who know math. Let us know your thoughts. Let us
know what you think about the American carbon price and what
you think about the Canadian carbon price and all of the
hoopla that's been going on up there that seems to be
almost like a foil of everything going on here. Good
times.
(29:17):
So let's move into our closing for you,
our listener. Email us with your thoughts. Our
email is
infoeenteapartyradiouh.com
thank you for.
>> Zach (29:28):
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>> Katie (29:45):
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>> Katie (30:20):
Thank you, everybody.
>> Zach (30:34):
Wonder if we're gonna get any Canadian listeners.
>> Katie (30:36):
A. Yeah, A. Do you think those
Canadians are gonna know what we're talking about? Do you think they're gonna.
Those are the only two Canadian words I know.
>> Zach (30:43):
Abu.
>> Katie (30:43):
Uh, an A. Okay, let's Google more Canadian
words. Fun Canadian words.
Words, Words. Oh, God, I don't know any
of these. What? What?
Poutine. What the hell's a poutine?
>> Zach (30:56):
Do you know what poutine is?
>> Katie (30:58):
No, what is that? A, uh, dish
of French fries and cheese curds
topped with a brown gravy. I don't know if I should
be appalled or if I want three
bowls.
Yeah, I'll give it a shot. Hoser, hoser,
hoser, hoser, hoser.
>> Zach (31:17):
Oh, this is Wisconsin.
>> Katie (31:18):
I don't know. A. Okay, I got that one. That one's
easy. We've got some of these. Um. I'm
concerned. Some of these sound like they could be slurs. I
don't. Jeez. This your
bunny hug? What is that?
>> Zach (31:32):
They are French. You gotta remember that. So.
>> Katie (31:35):
Yeah, I know, because I saw half these words and I was like, I don't know
how these are pronounced. Canuck.
>> Zach (31:40):
What Other Canucks.
>> Katie (31:43):
Informal term for Canadian. I thought that's what a hosier was. A
hoser. Hoser. Is it S
or Z? Hose or hoj? What
is going on? You see, this is why I'm glad to be American.
I know how to say our words. Hang a
Larry. What the hell is that?
What's a Larry? Who's a. What's a Roger?
(32:03):
What? It, uh, apparently. Okay. Hang a
Larry means left turn.
Hangarodger means right turn.
Don't know why we needed specific phrases for
that, but that's good to know.
>> Zach (32:17):
Um, yeah, I think I'm over complicated.
>> Katie (32:20):
Yeah, that's, uh.
>> Zach (32:21):
These are terms I will never use.
>> Katie (32:23):
Yeah, these aren't fun. Okay, let's stick to A
and a boot and
Tim Hortons or whatever.
>> Zach (32:31):
All right. Good episode, Katie.
>> Katie (32:33):
Thank you. Have a good one.
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