November 22, 2024 • 19 mins
In this episode, host Katie Zakrzewski introduces a special project, "Hot Mess," in collaboration with Citizens Climate Radio. This series, narrated by Peterson Toscano, explores the unraveling of climate consensus and the political chaos that followed. Delve into the history of climate change politics, meet influential figures like Marshall Saunders, and discover the innovative carbon fee and dividend solution. Featuring voices from Chelsea Henderson and others, this episode offers a unique conservative perspective on climate action. Join us as we explore how ordinary people can drive extraordinary change.
🗣️ Quotes from Marshall Saunders
"We trust that you are magnificent. It is trusting that ordinary people can get the job done."
🗣️ Quotes from Chelsea Henderson
"You have to be at the table or you're on the menu."
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>> Katie (00:06):
Hello and welcome to the Green Tea Party, where we
discuss conservative solutions to environmental problems.
My name is Katie Zakreski. Today I'm going to guide
you through complex issues and provide strategies to address
them. Um, all while remaining faithful to my conservative values.
It'll be a good time, so grab your mugs and we'll pour the
tea.
(00:29):
Welcome back to another episode, everybody.
Um, we're kind of taking a break here after the election just to
get all of our ducks in a row and plan to go even bigger and better
next year. So in the meantime, we've, uh, got a few
episodes of a special project for you. You might have heard a little bit
on last week's episode. Our friends over at Citizens
Climate Radio and Citizens Climate Radio's podcast. Peterson
(00:49):
Toscano has been working on this project for a few months
now called Hot Mess, where he looks at the history
of climate change in America and some of the political changes that have
happened over time when fighting climate change through the lens of a
true crime style podcast. And this project is so
neat that we are going to spend the next few weeks airing it here
on Green Tea Party Radio. Not just because it's neat, but
(01:10):
because you're going to hear a bunch of familiar voices throughout the course of
the show. Um, Chelsea Henderson, who's with
Republicans Eco Rights Speaks podcast, who we've had on
this show before, is one of the voices in Hot Mess. And
you'll also get to hear some thoughts from yours truly. That's
right, I'm in Hot mess too. And it's an honor to be
listed along with so many prominent voices in the climate
movement. So I'm super excited to share, uh,
(01:33):
the next few minutes with our Friends over at Citizens Climate
Radio. And, uh, a special thanks to Peterson Toscano
for putting such an important show together. Um, so sit
back, relax and enjoy.
>> Peterson Toscano (01:46):
Welcome to Hot Mess. How climate consensus
turned into political chaos. I'm, um, your
host, Peterson Toscano.
In this six part series, we
explore elements of how the united concern
about global warming unraveled and
stalled climate change solutions.
(02:08):
The Trend from the 1970s revealed that
individuals in both parties recognized the need
to stop pollution before it did any more
damage. For many of their colleagues, though,
pollution was not top of mind.
There were no clear solutions for both parties to
embrace. Groups of people needed to
demonstrate to lawmakers that citizens cared
(02:30):
about these, uh, issues. They also had to find an
inspiring solution that would capture the attention
of individuals who together could advocate
for meaningful change. Meet
Marshall Saunders.
He first became concerned about climate change in 2000.
A year later, he founded Citizens Climate Lobby.
(02:54):
Since that time, CCL has grown in numbers and
influence with nearly 250
volunteers and 400 chapters in the
USA alone. They meet members of
Congress. They engage the public through the media.
They regularly facilitate respectful and
thoughtful conversations about climate solutions.
Marshall Saunders created a culture of caring and respect
(03:16):
for others and, uh, responsibility for how we live on the
planet.
>> Marshall Saunders (03:20):
Like, I wasn't a mean green activist or anything like
that. I was in Missile, for goodness sakes. I was in shopping
center construction and building and paving
over the land.
>> Peterson Toscano (03:31):
Yes, he literally paved paradise and
put in a parking lot. He was that
guy.
Marshall Saunders hailed from a conservative family of
entrepreneurs in Texas. On the outside,
he looked like a confident, successful
businessman. But inside he felt
(03:53):
isolated, afraid and
angry.
>> Marshall Saunders (03:56):
I pull myself away from other people
to be, ah, separate. And I summed it up
as separate and superior.
That was my way of going through
life. Who is simply afraid.
Afraid of people starts with
fear and separateness,
but it can proceed
(04:19):
to, you know, even to hate life.
>> Peterson Toscano (04:22):
But then, through a series of
events, Marshall Saunders had a major
breakthrough. He became engaged in the world
around him and grew sensitive to the
sufferings of others.
>> Marshall Saunders (04:34):
A friend invited me to go to a
workshop on personal growth. Uh, I
went to this thing. I thought, what
am I doing here? I didn't see all
these people need to be here, but what
am I doing here? And the, uh, guy
who's leading us says, we don't get many people
(04:55):
like you here.
How did you get here? I said, I
walked out that night. I said, I'm not coming back. I'm
not coming back tomorrow. It's a three day workshop. There
were two young ladies who pleaded with me
in such a way that there's, you know, there's
something here for you. And
(05:16):
I thought, well, okay,
I'll, I'll give it another day.
>> Peterson Toscano (05:21):
And he stuck it out.
He became engaged in the world around him and
grew sensitive to the sufferings of others. He then used
his business savvy to assist people harmed by
hunger and poverty. He joined an
organization called Resolve. They used an
(05:41):
innovative approach to address hunger in the world.
They called on and trained volunteer advocates
who successfully lobbied lawmakers and world
leaders. Marshall volunteered with
results.
Then something unexpected
happened. Marshall Saunders became
(06:02):
alarmed by climate change.
>> Marshall Saunders (06:06):
Well, the first thing I remember there
was, uh, an article and it
said that in five years
everybody is going to be talking about climate
change. And I thought, I think that's right. You
know, I just felt like in myself, it was right. I didn't
say anything out loud.
(06:27):
When the movie An Inconvenient Truth
came out, I went to see it and
I thought, holy socks. I had no
idea, uh, how much trouble we'd gotten ourselves
into.
>> Peterson Toscano (06:44):
Marshall Saunders went on to create Citizens Climate Lobby. And
with a handful of dedicated volunteers and a tiny
staff, they presented a solution to members of
Congress carbon fee and
dividend.
Their plan to address greenhouse gas pollution was
simple and elegant, and it had something for
(07:06):
lawmakers on the right, left and center.
Marshall Saunders and the Citizens Climate Lobby
volunteers argued that fossil fuel extraction did
not consider the external costs that
racked up in the form of harm to people on the
planet. They proposed to place a fee on
each ton of carbon that extractors take out of the
(07:27):
ground. Each year. That fee would
increase. But what about
citizens who would bear the brunt of these
costs as the prices of petroleum and coal
increased? That is where the dividend comes
in. The money collected through the fee
did not need to fund the government. Instead,
that money could be refunded to citizens to help
(07:49):
with the rising energy costs and products affected by
those costs. The carbon fee and dividend would use
market forces to transform the energy
economy, drive innovation, and protect
people and families. Throughout the
transition since the very beginnings of
CCL in 2007, volunteer
members have directly lobbied their members of Congress
(08:11):
in every congressional district in the
usa, write a multitude of letters to
the editor in their local papers, train thousands
of other volunteers, and inspire lawmakers to
introduce legislation like the Energy
Innovation and Carbon Dividend Act.
Before his death in 2019, I
asked Marshall Saunders about these successes, his
(08:34):
personal breakthrough, and his extraordinary ability
to motivate hundreds of thousands of CCL
volunteers.
What secret did he and others discover
that moved the needle for so many people?
>> Marshall Saunders (08:52):
Well, we trust that you are
magnificent.
It is trusting that
ordinary people
can get the job done.
It's a trusting
in ordinary people.
>> Katie (09:14):
You.
>> Marshall Saunders (09:14):
Know, not people who have made it, not people who are
powerful, but ordinary people.
And if people are not
demonstrating that,
well, they can't,
they can't. They
(09:36):
need a little
encouragement, a little breakthrough,
like Anya.
So,
you know, it's one step at a time,
one step at a time.
>> Peterson Toscano (10:29):
Throughout this episode, you have heard commentary from Chelsea
Henderson. As the host of Republicans Eco Rights
Speaks podcast, she speaks with conservative
leaders who are serious about addressing the causes
of climate change. Chelsea is also the author of a
new Book, the Untold Story of Climate
Politics. Chelsea, how do
(10:49):
conservatives and progressives differ in their approach
to discussing climate change, both in terms of the
urgency of the issue and the solutions they
propose.
>> Chelsea Henderson (10:58):
I think that the way conservatives
and liberals talk about climate change
differently is both comes in
the presentation of how urgent the problem is, but
also in the solutions. And so,
you know, nobody wants to be talked down to. Nobody
wants to be told, this is the solution, take it
(11:18):
and run. I mean, maybe some people do. We'll
get back to that, uh, another episode. But
so when you have, you know, the politics
has been lopsided for the last 20 years, so you have
had the more kind of left of center
folks driving, um, the
progress. And I can see why there would be
(11:39):
some resentment on the other side, especially when those solutions
might not align with the values on the right.
But honestly, you know, the right did take themselves
out of the game and so now
they're having to play that catch up. As Congressman
John Curtis likes to say, you have to be at the table or you're on
the menu. And I think there's a big recognition of that
(12:00):
now. And while older generations of
conservatives don't like to fear that
there's alarmism in talking about the urgency
to solve climate change, the younger generation doesn't seem to embrace that. The
younger generation sees that it's urgent. They're going to be around
another 80 years.
>> Marshall Saunders (12:15):
Right.
>> Chelsea Henderson (12:15):
And they want to make sure that they're living in a sustainable
climate.
>> Peterson Toscano (12:19):
Thank you, Chelsea, for joining us on this journey. I look
forward to hear what you have to share in the next
episode of Hot Mess. Learn more about
Chelsea Henderson and the podcast
ecoritespeaks by visiting
republicen.org
that's republicen.org
(12:40):
you can hear her show the ego rightspeaks
wherever you get podcast.
In our next episode, we'll delve into the
dangerous shift in climate politics and the
rise of climate denial and opposition to
climate related legislation.
>> Katie (12:58):
Exxon oil executives, and particularly their
scientists knew about the devastating effects of climate
change decades before that science was
ever really made public. And they saw, okay, well, if we're
the ones doing this, if the fossil fuel industry is the one that's
quite literally putting the planet in a microwave,
we need to make sure for the sake of our jobs and
(13:18):
our business and our business's success, that
this doesn't reach the general public.
>> Peterson Toscano (13:28):
Thank you for joining me on this journey. I'm
Peterson Toscano and this is Hot Mess.
How Climate Consensus Turned into Political
Chaos.
>> Katie (13:38):
Hot Mess is made possible through Citizens Climate Education.
The show has been researched by Horace Mo, Lily Russian and
Peterson Toscano. Editorial assistance from Flannery
Winchester, Elise Silvestri and Brett cease
production by uh Peterson Toscano with assistance from
elisilvestri. Music for this episode comes from
Epidemic Sound and Elise Silvestri.
>> Peterson Toscano (13:58):
Hot Mess is made possible through Citizens Climate
Education. Learn how you can be part of a
bipartisan effort to pass meaningful legislation
that addresses fossil fuel pollution.
Visit cclusa.
That's
cclusa.org
action. If you like this program and want to support
(14:20):
the work we do, share this episode with a friend
and on, uh, social media. You can also give a tax
deductible donation by visiting
citizensclimate education.org
Together we will make a difference.
>> Katie (14:41):
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Tea Party Radio and enjoyed getting to hear a little bit
more from the show Hot Mess made by our Friends over at
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and check out their feed for more updates as to when the
next few episodes will be out and learn a little bit more about the
cast of that show. Go give Peterson and the folks over at Citizens
(15:02):
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(16:07):
you so much for listening and we'll see you next time.
>> Drew Ireley (16:13):
Hi, I'm Drew Irely. I am the Conservative Outreach
Director for Citizens Climate Lobby. My path
to being a conservative concerned, uh, about climate
action was definitely a Long one.
Growing up, it was a very rural area. You had to be into
the outdoors or you were going to be bored out of your mind. So I grew up
doing a lot of hunting, fishing. I was
(16:34):
only the second person on my mom's side to graduate
high School. Graduated uh,
6-6-05 at like 7:30 at night
and by 8:00 the next morning I was on my way to
basic training. On my 17th birthday
I had deployments to Iraq, Afghanistan, rotations
through Cuba. It was during this time that I
really became concerned with energy infrastructure.
(16:57):
But I wasn't ready to take action yet. It took the
birth of a 10 pound baby girl with cheeks so
big she couldn't open her eyes to really get me
to open mine. My life just went from the next
50 years to the next 75. What
if she's the veteran that follows in my footsteps
and, and she's in the VA suffering from
exposure? You know, what if she's on a fossil fuel route
(17:20):
and you know, subject to an ied? How will I be
able to look at her in the eye and say I knew
that this could be an issue that you would have to face and I chose to
do nothing about it. It's why we fight wars. You know,
we fight them now so our kids don't have
to. I am fighting climate change now
so my daughters don't have to. A lot of
(17:40):
people, they say conservatives don't care about climate
change and it's not true at all.
We just want sensible policies that don't destroy
the economy. In trying to find a solution, we have that here
at Citizens Climate Lobby.
(18:01):
There are a lot of leadership opportunities for
conservatives, especially in red states and
district with Republican Congressional offices.
Conservatives can also join CCL's Conservative
caucus. It's a national group of Republicans
and other right of center individuals where conservatives can
get together and regularly meet online and have
strictly conservative based conversations.
(18:23):
Sharing our personal story is how we make a difference.
>> Chelsea Henderson (18:31):
Conservative and concerned about climate change.
You're not alone. My name is Chelsea Henderson
and I Host Republic en and.org's Eco
Right speaks, bringing you weekly guest
interviews and stories. John Kasich
Christine Todd Whitman Congresswoman Nancy Mace
Meteorologist Marshall Shepard. Each week we have a
conversation with an eco right leader bringing you
(18:53):
information, opinions, personal stories and
much, much more. Download, listen,
subscribe and join us each week on the
Eco Rights Speaks.
Hello and welcome to the Green Tea Party, where we
discuss conservative solutions to environmental problems.
My name is Katie Zakreski. Today I'm going to guide
you through complex issues and provide strategies to address
them. Um, all while remaining faithful to my conservative values.
It'll be a good time, so grab your mugs and we'll pour the
tea.
(00:29):
Welcome back to another episode, everybody.
Um, we're kind of taking a break here after the election just to
get all of our ducks in a row and plan to go even bigger and better
next year. So in the meantime, we've, uh, got a few
episodes of a special project for you. You might have heard a little bit
on last week's episode. Our friends over at Citizens
Climate Radio and Citizens Climate Radio's podcast. Peterson
(00:49):
Toscano has been working on this project for a few months
now called Hot Mess, where he looks at the history
of climate change in America and some of the political changes that have
happened over time when fighting climate change through the lens of a
true crime style podcast. And this project is so
neat that we are going to spend the next few weeks airing it here
on Green Tea Party Radio. Not just because it's neat, but
(01:10):
because you're going to hear a bunch of familiar voices throughout the course of
the show. Um, Chelsea Henderson, who's with
Republicans Eco Rights Speaks podcast, who we've had on
this show before, is one of the voices in Hot Mess. And
you'll also get to hear some thoughts from yours truly. That's
right, I'm in Hot mess too. And it's an honor to be
listed along with so many prominent voices in the climate
movement. So I'm super excited to share, uh,
(01:33):
the next few minutes with our Friends over at Citizens Climate
Radio. And, uh, a special thanks to Peterson Toscano
for putting such an important show together. Um, so sit
back, relax and enjoy.
>> Peterson Toscano (01:46):
Welcome to Hot Mess. How climate consensus
turned into political chaos. I'm, um, your
host, Peterson Toscano.
In this six part series, we
explore elements of how the united concern
about global warming unraveled and
stalled climate change solutions.
(02:08):
The Trend from the 1970s revealed that
individuals in both parties recognized the need
to stop pollution before it did any more
damage. For many of their colleagues, though,
pollution was not top of mind.
There were no clear solutions for both parties to
embrace. Groups of people needed to
demonstrate to lawmakers that citizens cared
(02:30):
about these, uh, issues. They also had to find an
inspiring solution that would capture the attention
of individuals who together could advocate
for meaningful change. Meet
Marshall Saunders.
He first became concerned about climate change in 2000.
A year later, he founded Citizens Climate Lobby.
(02:54):
Since that time, CCL has grown in numbers and
influence with nearly 250
volunteers and 400 chapters in the
USA alone. They meet members of
Congress. They engage the public through the media.
They regularly facilitate respectful and
thoughtful conversations about climate solutions.
Marshall Saunders created a culture of caring and respect
(03:16):
for others and, uh, responsibility for how we live on the
planet.
>> Marshall Saunders (03:20):
Like, I wasn't a mean green activist or anything like
that. I was in Missile, for goodness sakes. I was in shopping
center construction and building and paving
over the land.
>> Peterson Toscano (03:31):
Yes, he literally paved paradise and
put in a parking lot. He was that
guy.
Marshall Saunders hailed from a conservative family of
entrepreneurs in Texas. On the outside,
he looked like a confident, successful
businessman. But inside he felt
(03:53):
isolated, afraid and
angry.
>> Marshall Saunders (03:56):
I pull myself away from other people
to be, ah, separate. And I summed it up
as separate and superior.
That was my way of going through
life. Who is simply afraid.
Afraid of people starts with
fear and separateness,
but it can proceed
(04:19):
to, you know, even to hate life.
>> Peterson Toscano (04:22):
But then, through a series of
events, Marshall Saunders had a major
breakthrough. He became engaged in the world
around him and grew sensitive to the
sufferings of others.
>> Marshall Saunders (04:34):
A friend invited me to go to a
workshop on personal growth. Uh, I
went to this thing. I thought, what
am I doing here? I didn't see all
these people need to be here, but what
am I doing here? And the, uh, guy
who's leading us says, we don't get many people
(04:55):
like you here.
How did you get here? I said, I
walked out that night. I said, I'm not coming back. I'm
not coming back tomorrow. It's a three day workshop. There
were two young ladies who pleaded with me
in such a way that there's, you know, there's
something here for you. And
(05:16):
I thought, well, okay,
I'll, I'll give it another day.
>> Peterson Toscano (05:21):
And he stuck it out.
He became engaged in the world around him and
grew sensitive to the sufferings of others. He then used
his business savvy to assist people harmed by
hunger and poverty. He joined an
organization called Resolve. They used an
(05:41):
innovative approach to address hunger in the world.
They called on and trained volunteer advocates
who successfully lobbied lawmakers and world
leaders. Marshall volunteered with
results.
Then something unexpected
happened. Marshall Saunders became
(06:02):
alarmed by climate change.
>> Marshall Saunders (06:06):
Well, the first thing I remember there
was, uh, an article and it
said that in five years
everybody is going to be talking about climate
change. And I thought, I think that's right. You
know, I just felt like in myself, it was right. I didn't
say anything out loud.
(06:27):
When the movie An Inconvenient Truth
came out, I went to see it and
I thought, holy socks. I had no
idea, uh, how much trouble we'd gotten ourselves
into.
>> Peterson Toscano (06:44):
Marshall Saunders went on to create Citizens Climate Lobby. And
with a handful of dedicated volunteers and a tiny
staff, they presented a solution to members of
Congress carbon fee and
dividend.
Their plan to address greenhouse gas pollution was
simple and elegant, and it had something for
(07:06):
lawmakers on the right, left and center.
Marshall Saunders and the Citizens Climate Lobby
volunteers argued that fossil fuel extraction did
not consider the external costs that
racked up in the form of harm to people on the
planet. They proposed to place a fee on
each ton of carbon that extractors take out of the
(07:27):
ground. Each year. That fee would
increase. But what about
citizens who would bear the brunt of these
costs as the prices of petroleum and coal
increased? That is where the dividend comes
in. The money collected through the fee
did not need to fund the government. Instead,
that money could be refunded to citizens to help
(07:49):
with the rising energy costs and products affected by
those costs. The carbon fee and dividend would use
market forces to transform the energy
economy, drive innovation, and protect
people and families. Throughout the
transition since the very beginnings of
CCL in 2007, volunteer
members have directly lobbied their members of Congress
(08:11):
in every congressional district in the
usa, write a multitude of letters to
the editor in their local papers, train thousands
of other volunteers, and inspire lawmakers to
introduce legislation like the Energy
Innovation and Carbon Dividend Act.
Before his death in 2019, I
asked Marshall Saunders about these successes, his
(08:34):
personal breakthrough, and his extraordinary ability
to motivate hundreds of thousands of CCL
volunteers.
What secret did he and others discover
that moved the needle for so many people?
>> Marshall Saunders (08:52):
Well, we trust that you are
magnificent.
It is trusting that
ordinary people
can get the job done.
It's a trusting
in ordinary people.
>> Katie (09:14):
You.
>> Marshall Saunders (09:14):
Know, not people who have made it, not people who are
powerful, but ordinary people.
And if people are not
demonstrating that,
well, they can't,
they can't. They
(09:36):
need a little
encouragement, a little breakthrough,
like Anya.
So,
you know, it's one step at a time,
one step at a time.
>> Peterson Toscano (10:29):
Throughout this episode, you have heard commentary from Chelsea
Henderson. As the host of Republicans Eco Rights
Speaks podcast, she speaks with conservative
leaders who are serious about addressing the causes
of climate change. Chelsea is also the author of a
new Book, the Untold Story of Climate
Politics. Chelsea, how do
(10:49):
conservatives and progressives differ in their approach
to discussing climate change, both in terms of the
urgency of the issue and the solutions they
propose.
>> Chelsea Henderson (10:58):
I think that the way conservatives
and liberals talk about climate change
differently is both comes in
the presentation of how urgent the problem is, but
also in the solutions. And so,
you know, nobody wants to be talked down to. Nobody
wants to be told, this is the solution, take it
(11:18):
and run. I mean, maybe some people do. We'll
get back to that, uh, another episode. But
so when you have, you know, the politics
has been lopsided for the last 20 years, so you have
had the more kind of left of center
folks driving, um, the
progress. And I can see why there would be
(11:39):
some resentment on the other side, especially when those solutions
might not align with the values on the right.
But honestly, you know, the right did take themselves
out of the game and so now
they're having to play that catch up. As Congressman
John Curtis likes to say, you have to be at the table or you're on
the menu. And I think there's a big recognition of that
(12:00):
now. And while older generations of
conservatives don't like to fear that
there's alarmism in talking about the urgency
to solve climate change, the younger generation doesn't seem to embrace that. The
younger generation sees that it's urgent. They're going to be around
another 80 years.
>> Marshall Saunders (12:15):
Right.
>> Chelsea Henderson (12:15):
And they want to make sure that they're living in a sustainable
climate.
>> Peterson Toscano (12:19):
Thank you, Chelsea, for joining us on this journey. I look
forward to hear what you have to share in the next
episode of Hot Mess. Learn more about
Chelsea Henderson and the podcast
ecoritespeaks by visiting
republicen.org
that's republicen.org
(12:40):
you can hear her show the ego rightspeaks
wherever you get podcast.
In our next episode, we'll delve into the
dangerous shift in climate politics and the
rise of climate denial and opposition to
climate related legislation.
>> Katie (12:58):
Exxon oil executives, and particularly their
scientists knew about the devastating effects of climate
change decades before that science was
ever really made public. And they saw, okay, well, if we're
the ones doing this, if the fossil fuel industry is the one that's
quite literally putting the planet in a microwave,
we need to make sure for the sake of our jobs and
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our business and our business's success, that
this doesn't reach the general public.
>> Peterson Toscano (13:28):
Thank you for joining me on this journey. I'm
Peterson Toscano and this is Hot Mess.
How Climate Consensus Turned into Political
Chaos.
>> Katie (13:38):
Hot Mess is made possible through Citizens Climate Education.
The show has been researched by Horace Mo, Lily Russian and
Peterson Toscano. Editorial assistance from Flannery
Winchester, Elise Silvestri and Brett cease
production by uh Peterson Toscano with assistance from
elisilvestri. Music for this episode comes from
Epidemic Sound and Elise Silvestri.
>> Peterson Toscano (13:58):
Hot Mess is made possible through Citizens Climate
Education. Learn how you can be part of a
bipartisan effort to pass meaningful legislation
that addresses fossil fuel pollution.
Visit cclusa.
That's
cclusa.org
action. If you like this program and want to support
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the work we do, share this episode with a friend
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Together we will make a difference.
>> Katie (14:41):
I hope you enjoyed this week's episode of Green, uh,
Tea Party Radio and enjoyed getting to hear a little bit
more from the show Hot Mess made by our Friends over at
Citizens Climate Radio. Be sure to give them a follow on Twitter
and check out their feed for more updates as to when the
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cast of that show. Go give Peterson and the folks over at Citizens
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Climate Radio some love. We couldn't do a lot of what we do without
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you so much for listening and we'll see you next time.
>> Drew Ireley (16:13):
Hi, I'm Drew Irely. I am the Conservative Outreach
Director for Citizens Climate Lobby. My path
to being a conservative concerned, uh, about climate
action was definitely a Long one.
Growing up, it was a very rural area. You had to be into
the outdoors or you were going to be bored out of your mind. So I grew up
doing a lot of hunting, fishing. I was
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only the second person on my mom's side to graduate
high School. Graduated uh,
6-6-05 at like 7:30 at night
and by 8:00 the next morning I was on my way to
basic training. On my 17th birthday
I had deployments to Iraq, Afghanistan, rotations
through Cuba. It was during this time that I
really became concerned with energy infrastructure.
(16:57):
But I wasn't ready to take action yet. It took the
birth of a 10 pound baby girl with cheeks so
big she couldn't open her eyes to really get me
to open mine. My life just went from the next
50 years to the next 75. What
if she's the veteran that follows in my footsteps
and, and she's in the VA suffering from
exposure? You know, what if she's on a fossil fuel route
(17:20):
and you know, subject to an ied? How will I be
able to look at her in the eye and say I knew
that this could be an issue that you would have to face and I chose to
do nothing about it. It's why we fight wars. You know,
we fight them now so our kids don't have
to. I am fighting climate change now
so my daughters don't have to. A lot of
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people, they say conservatives don't care about climate
change and it's not true at all.
We just want sensible policies that don't destroy
the economy. In trying to find a solution, we have that here
at Citizens Climate Lobby.
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There are a lot of leadership opportunities for
conservatives, especially in red states and
district with Republican Congressional offices.
Conservatives can also join CCL's Conservative
caucus. It's a national group of Republicans
and other right of center individuals where conservatives can
get together and regularly meet online and have
strictly conservative based conversations.
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Sharing our personal story is how we make a difference.
>> Chelsea Henderson (18:31):
Conservative and concerned about climate change.
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Right speaks, bringing you weekly guest
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