April 23, 2025 • 29 mins
Gather round, dear Hobbits, Elves, and Dwarves! In this epic episode of Green Tea Party Radio, Katie Zakrzewski embarks on a journey inspired by Middle-earth to explore the role young conservatives play in battling climate change. Much like Frodo carrying the Ring to Mount Doom, today's environmental conservatives carry the daunting responsibility of confronting a world increasingly troubled by climate peril.
Katie summons the wisdom of Gandalf as she reflects on resilience, hope, and the importance of small yet impactful actions. Like the Fellowship itself, young conservatives must band together, wielding tools such as market-driven solutions, technological innovation, and historic conservative stewardship to fight the shadows of climate despair.
(No Hobbits were harmed in the making of this episode)
Episode highlights include:
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How climate change mirrors the epic struggle against Sauron's growing darkness.
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The critical role of conservative youth, akin to brave hobbits, in driving meaningful environmental change.
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Practical, community-based actions conservatives can take that reflect their values and have lasting impacts, much like the brave deeds in the Shire.
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The necessity of hope and resilience—key qualities that sustained Frodo on his perilous journey.
Whether you’re a hobbit from the countryside or a wizard wise in policy, join Katie as she explores the power of resilience and community in the ongoing saga of environmental conservation.
Remember, "Even the smallest person can change the course of the future."
Call to Action:-
Engage locally—every Shire matters!
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Support and advocate for conservative market-driven solutions to climate issues.
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Stay resilient and hopeful, recognizing the long-term nature of the climate battle.
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Join our Patreon Fellowship for exclusive content and merch at greenteapartyradio.com
Thank you for being part of our fellowship—let’s journey forward, for Middle-earth (and our earth) needs us now more than ever!
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>> Katie (00:04):
Hello and welcome to the Green Tea Party where we
discuss conservative solutions to environmental
problems. I'm Katie
Zakreski and today I'll guide you through complex issues
and provide strategies to address them all while
remaining faithful to my conservative values.
It'll be a good time, so grab your mugs and
I'll pour the tea.
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The Ring has passed through many hands, Frodo.
And now it lies with you. The
evil that it carries has grown stronger over the
years. And Sauron's power is
increasing. His servants are searching for the
Ring. They will stop at nothing to reclaim
it. But I don't understand,
Gandalf. Why would the Ring come to me?
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I'm just a simple Hobbit. There must be someone
stronger or wiser who could carry it.
You were right, Frodo. There are many
who might be more capable, more powerful.
But the Ring is a cruel master.
It corrupts those who possess
has no interest in the strong or the wise.
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The simple, the humble, like you,
are the ones it chooses. Those who seek to use
it are most often the ones who fall to its
temptations.
But I don't want it. Gandalf. I never asked
for this. What can I possibly do with it?
I know, Frodo. You are not alone
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in this. There are others who will help you.
But the Ring could not remain here.
Sauron is looking for it. He must never find
it. If the Ring is destroyed,
his power will be shattered.
But it is such a great evil I don't know
if I have the strength to carry it. I wish it
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need not have happened in my time. So do
I. And so do all who live to see such
times. But that is not for them to
decide.
All we have to decide is what to
do with the time that is given us.
It is in our power to make a difference in
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how we face this challenge.
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Last night, my husband and I sat down on the couch.
After a very long week, we decided to watch
a movie. He knows I'm a big Lord of the Rings nerd. And we
decided to watch Fellowship of the Rings. And then this scene
came up. The one where things are very dark and gloomy
and Gandalf and Frodo are talking. And Frodo
laments that he's been tasked with saving the entire
(03:13):
world. And Gandalf more or less hits him with an I
feel that, uh. But that's not really up to us at this point.
Now it's up to us to decide what we're gonna do from here.
What an incredible timing. This scene spoke
very loudly to me last night and I thought,
okay, I'm feeling a little bit like Frodo these days.
Um, I think a lot of environmental conservatives are feeling the burden of
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climate change and the fact that the political climate is heavy
and we didn't choose to be alive during this time. But what is
up to us is what we do at this time.
So as Gandalf says, it's not the circumstances we face,
but how we respond to them. And that defines our actions and our
future. So over the last couple weeks, I've been a little
less than sunshiny because if you've turned on the news lately,
(03:54):
it's pretty easy to imagine why. But as I
completely continue to fluctuate between this state
of like, absolute mania and
hopeful resilience, I figure we ought to analyze that.
Maybe I'm just like having a cathartic moment with you all and you
all get to watch my mental breakdown in real time. Who knows? But
we're on this roller coaster together. So I figured
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we could talk a little bit today about one resilience to
rule them all and hopefully in the darkness bind them, Whatever. So,
alright, let's do this. Is like the equivalent of
when you're on a field trip and you get back on the bus and then the
teacher like, does a mental check of where we're all at. It's almost
like a Previously on, um, last week's episode of Dragon
Ball Z kind of moment. Where are we at right now?
(04:35):
Okay, well, things aren't great. Uh, according
to NASA, the global average temperature has increased about
1.2 degrees Celsius since the late 19th
century. Great. Uh, Earth's
temperature in 2020 was about 1.2 degrees Celsius
above the pre industrial average. Great.
Uh, this warming is tied to extreme weather events, rising sea
levels and habitat loss for catless species. Couldn't be
(04:57):
me. Um, except it's about to be. Um,
there's been a lot of extreme weather lately. We've talked about it on the show.
I'm not going to rehash it. You're not living under a rock.
Um, tons of biodiversity loss.
World Wildlife Funds Living Planet Report
2020 found that wildlife populations have declined by nearly
70% since 1970. According to the
NOAA, in 2020 the US experienced
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22. Uh, blah, blah. You've heard it all before. Okay,
you get the point. Shit's not great right now.
So let's talk about the role of us Frodo hobbits,
if you will. And I'm not being offensive to your feet, the
role of environmental conservatives. So
obviously, young conservatives have a critical and a
crucial role to play in the future of climate policy. This is not just
a liberal issue. You've, uh, beat that horse to death I don't know how many times
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now. Environmental stewardship has historically been
a part of conservative thought. Recap. In case you haven't
been listening to the show for the last two years, a lot of
conservatives believe in the idea of protecting the natural world for future
generations. Historically, Republicans like Teddy
Roosevelt, Ronald Reagan have all supported conservation
efforts, federal parks, significant
environmental protections. In 1970, President
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Nixon, another Republican, created the EPA. Uh, even though
the current GOP is gutting it as we speak,
um, young conservatives can approach things from a free market
perspective. I mean, in 2021, wind and solar accounted for
12% of total U.S. energy generation.
That should be way higher. Um, major
companies like Tesla, well, maybe we don't really
know, and Microsoft are leading the way with ambitious carbon
(06:28):
neutral goals. Hooray. These are good. Okay, but what does all this
mean? This just sounds like a bunch of rambling in my state of mania
to you all. Let me hit my blicky and I'll attempt to pull
this all together for you. Wonderful.
Let's talk about resilience.
So why is it important to keep going?
As much as I want to curl up in a ball and die under
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my coffee table in my living room? Well, there's a few
different reasons.
So obviously the fight against climate change is a marathon,
not a sprint. What does that mean? It means
that small actions add up over time and they can have
significant impacts. While immediate results might not always
be visible, the groundwork is being laid today and will
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have lasting effects. I know. It's also very hard during
this time to think of that mentality because it seems like,
you know, for years we were working really, really hard
to set up certain agencies, which we can argue
until the cows come home, whether or not they were really
effectively doing the jobs that they were supposed to be doing. Probably not. That's just
a perk of being involved with the government in any way, shape or form.
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But I don't know that completely shutting them down is the way to handle that.
Um, but it can be a little bit
overwhelming to have this mentality when you see
like entire governmental
departments named after meme dogs.
Um, absolutely gutting everything that you've worked for
in your young 20 something year old life. And that can definitely make you
wonder, you know, why did I bother going to school for six years and racking
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up $50,000 worth of debt if somebody, um, with
funny coin and funny meme
hat is just gonna become the next
whatever. Okay, I'm going down a rabbit hole here, and that's not what I'm supposed
to be doing.
Young people are key. That
felt more powerful when I wrote it as opposed to
when I said it. So. Young people are the future. I know you've probably
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heard that phrase like 10 billion times over, but you've got my
permission to believe it when I say it. But it's the truth. The youth movement
around climate change is often dominated by liberals, but
guess what? Young people on both
sides of the political aisle care about climate change. That's good
news. Really and truly it is. Especially since a lot of the decisions being
made by right now are being made by people who
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don't believe in climate change on any side of the aisle. I don't
even think their political affiliation is really even
relevant at this point. But obviously there's a growing number of young
conservatives and entrepreneurs who are stepping up to
tackle climate change. Example, a 2021 poll
by the Conservative Environmental Network found that nearly
60% of young conservatives are concerned about climate change and support
government action or reduced emission. That's great news. We
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just need them to get more involved and be active.
And there's power in local action. Again, another horse that
we frequently beat to death on this show is getting
involved not just once every four years during your federal
election, but constantly staying up to date with what's going
on in your local area, whether that's your city,
your county, your town, your township,
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what have you. Obviously, all of our listeners
should be. And, um, let's be honest, if you're listening to this
show, you already want to make a difference. You sought out this show on your
own. You want to make a difference on a local level, whether
it's through community projects, supporting sustainable local
businesses, advocating for sensible policy
changes that are in line with our conservative values. A lot
of these local efforts can create change in communities and help them
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build broader momentum. So why do hope and
resilience matter, other than like, just to get out of bed in
the morning?
Let's talk about that. So the reality of climate
change and environmental degradation is that they can
sometimes feel insurmountable. Um, it's a lot to
have a whole lot of bad news thrown at you all at once,
especially when that bad news tends to pile up and bury the good
(10:04):
news underneath its mass. But obviously, change
is required to. What the fuck? What
am I? How do. Did I actively try to
Unlearn English before I recorded today's
episode. So the changes
required to address these global issues,
whether they be in policy, technology
or lifestyle, might almost sometimes
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feel unachievable, at least within our lifetime
as young people. And we've got more lifetime than a whole lot of people.
But hope and resilience are essential for
several reasons. One, as I mentioned earlier, climate
change is a long term battle. Climate, uh, change
isn't a problem that's going to be solved overnight. It's a
decades, or maybe even a centuries long
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challenge that, uh, will demand persistent
effort and constant work and maintenance. And
while many are probably enamored with quick
solutions, the path forward is going to be a gradual one. That's
simply the nature of the beast. And hope
helps us to sustain that long term commitment.
And without it, we risk giving up in the face of temporary
setbacks, which a gentle aside, as if this whole episode
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hasn't been rife with not so gentle
asides, but.
So here's a gentle one for you. Um, I'm incredibly
proud of everybody who is still listening to the show
and who is still active in politics to some degree, even
in spite of everything that's happened over the last few months, because I think
we've said on this show several times before,
all that it takes for evil to triumph, um, is for
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good people to do nothing. And so if you are
still eager to do good things
in spite of everything bad that's happened lately and all
of the sucker punches that I think that young people in
particular have been dealt in terms of, you know, I don't know that I
can afford eggs anymore. I'm just gonna buy a whole chicken at this point.
So if you're constantly eating a shit sandwich like me, and you're
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still finding a way to get up and do this every single morning and care about this
in your spare time, kisses all over your precious
little face, you're incredible. Uh, you're doing a lot of
good work. Please do not give up. It will all pay off
in the end. Aside, over. So resilience
becomes necessary because setbacks will
occur. It's not if they will occur. I'm going to call this
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one big setback. Everything going on right now is just one big setback.
Not the end of the world, just one big setback. Um, there will
always, always, always, always, always, always be policy
reversals, economic challenges, and
a seeming lack of immediate
progress. But resilience
then is our ability to keep going in the face
of all these challenges instead of, you know,
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getting lost in the minutiae of a win
or a loss, day by day, we have to take a step
back and stay focused on the big picture.
Obviously, hope keeps people engaged in an effort. When
hope gives up, people give up and the effort fails.
So when people feel like they can't make a difference, they disengage.
Hope is a force that motivates action.
It's, you know, our belief that change is possible,
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even if that means a whole lot of hard work and a
long term commitment. Because let's be honest, I wouldn't be
recording this show, you wouldn't be listening to the
show, our producer wouldn't be producing this show, our
social media manager wouldn't be promoting this show, we wouldn't
be writing the scripts for this show or recording this show or
doing anything if we didn't think that it wasn't going
to pay off in some way. And I don't just mean like,
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somebody's gonna sponsor me and send me that nice cast iron skillet
I've always wanted. No, I hope that
throughout the recording and production
of the show, more people have the
tools and lingo and
knowledge needed to make a difference in their own
communities. I mean, even if it's just one person
who writes to me and says, katie, I was able to do
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XYZ in my community because of something I learned on your show,
I can retire because that means that I have officially had,
um, a positive impact of some sort. Um,
and I'm sure that I have. I might not know about it. I
think that that's half the battle with true
conservative environmental activism. You're not being put on a podium
anywhere. And a lot of your work is happening behind the scenes. A lot of the
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good impact you have, you might never hear about it personally.
So the nature of true altruistic activism
is tough because you're never, you're never getting the
shiny medal or the award and you never will. And you don't do
it for that in the first place. You do it to make a difference. But that
sure don't make it easy to do so. Without
hope, individuals tend to become apathetic. I don't have to tell
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you this. You probably already know it. You've experienced apathy or burnout
to some extent within the last few months, I'm sure. But these things are
detrimental to any movement, particularly one as urgent
as the environmental movement and conservation in general. And
we're working on a different clock than maybe some of the other
issues that are out there.
Resilience helps individuals sit.
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I swear To God V. Go.
Great. You've lost your freedom privileges. Come on.
Hey, it's 4:15. It's as good as time as any to crack open
a beer and talk about the end of the world.
This, uh, tastes like ass. Oh my God.
(15:04):
Okay, perhaps there is a better
time, uh, to drink a beer, being not right
now.
So obviously resilience helps individuals stay committed even
when results are slow to materialize. Hope
also encourages innovation and new ideas.
The world is facing significant challenges. A lot of them
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are overwhelming. But when people are able
to maintain hope, they're more likely to look for innovative
solutions. So young conservatives have the
unique opportunity to advocate for
market driven solutions to climate change, which
can align both with conservative values and with sustainable
outcomes. And they can continue to look for other avenues
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that fit within our conservative values to
address this issue. This is a really unique issue that we'll probably
need several economic levers to address, which
guess what, that's conservatives wheelhouse. And it's
that hope that's going to spur that innovation.
So resilience and innovation obviously comes when people don't give up,
but rather find new ways to tackle old problems.
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A lot of renewable energy technologies like
solar, wind, battery storage have
all been improved dramatically in recent years due to the
persistence of innovators and entrepreneurs who believe in a
sustainable future and the ability to do better.
I think my cat is screaming now,
except she's deaf, uh, so she doesn't know how loud she's
screaming.
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Another hit off the old vapor rooney
to try to quell the
persistent rage that I
feel. So
obviously hope creates a supportive community. And when it comes to
climate activism, none of this can be done alone.
Um, there's no reason for this to be a lonely journey. Hope
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fosters a community of like minded individuals who
are all going to support each other. They're going to share
strategies, celebrate victories no matter how small
they are. And resilient individuals understand
that collaboration is the key to success.
Many hands make light work. You've probably
heard that phrase before.
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So having a supportive community can help
young environmental conservatives like us, uh, feel less
isolated and more capable of carrying that
burden.
So I want to talk a little bit about finding hope and
moving forward. There's one thing I love to do on all my shows and I don't just like,
talk at you. I want to give you ideas for how to
fix things, or at least get you, you know, maybe
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brainstorming about how to fix things. It's not enough to talk about a
problem, in my opinion. So while the Journey is long. There
are a lot of reasons, believe it or not, to be
hopeful. The idea is to,
you know, feel inspired enough as you continue
your advocacy. Um, because
this is a growing movement, particularly
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for environmental conservatives. So the role
of innovative technology and innovation in general has, uh, played
a pivotal part in addressing climate change. That's something young conservatives should
be especially, especially excited about.
Because now young conservatives can support policies that encourage the development
of new technologies to combat climate change.
To combat climate change. Pardon me. English is
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hard. Climate m Capture. Oh my
God, do I speak English?
So carbon capture and storage is an emerging
technology that could also play a significant role in
reducing CO2 emissions. So in
2020, the United States Department of Energy
invested 80 million into projects related to
this. And, um, everything
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that the government is doing right now
does not necessarily undo the things that we've already
done. It just prevents
more things from happening
until we find somebody else. And if you think that we
can undo 50 years worth of work in a
four year period, then I would tell you that the
American presidency is inherently flawed and
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we're fighting the wrong battle. So take heart in
knowing that the guy in the White House might change every
four years, but the impact and the trajectory of
the work that we've done is
going to last longer than that.
Obviously, there are a lot of conservatives out there in the world making a difference.
You've probably heard of them. They've almost become household
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names. Nancy, uh, Mace, John
Curtis, Mitt Romney, just to name a few. Bruce
Westerman. I'm going to lump him in there. There are
plenty of conservatives whose names have become synonymous
with environment and climate action. A lot
of conservative lawmakers are pushing for carbon based solutions
or market based solutions. Pardon me, like carbon dividends, which
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we'll talk about in a future episode. Investments in green
technologies that create jobs without the need for heavy handed
regulation. Uh, in 2020, Arnold Schwarzenegger launched
the Art Regions of Climate Action initiative.
So obviously there are plenty of conservatives who are concerned with the
issues of climate change. But whether or not they
make the news should not impact your
ability to do these things. Even if nobody reports
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on them, you should do them anyway. So
where are some ways. What are,
where are the places that people can
find hope? Well, you probably guessed it before I
even said it. I would say, number one, by focusing on
local action and community engagement. So while global
issues like climate change can seem insurmountable,
breaking it down to the local level is incredibly
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impactful. So that's where a lot of environmental conservation begins.
Whether you like it or not, it's not at the White House, it's at your local city
hall. Um, young conservatives can find hope in
small but meaningful contributions like supporting local green
businesses or engaging in community conservation projects.
You've got to know where these businesses are in your community, what they're
involved in, and support them as part of the broader solution.
Obviously you want to participate in local environmental efforts like tree
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planting, recycling programs, working with local
policy makers to promote smart growth and conservation
policies. Just an example. In many rural communities,
farmers are adopting regenerative agricultural practices,
reducing their carbon footprint, maintaining healthy and productive
land. A lot of these localized efforts add up because the
people who are doing them talk to other people who end up doing them
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when they hear how successful they are. So word of mouth is
a powerful tool, especially on the local level.
Number two, we can find hope in promoting carbon market.
Oh my God, how many more times am I going to say that? Number
two, we can find hope as well by promoting market
based solutions. So obviously you're not new around
these parts. Conservatives are advocates for market
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driven solutions, which are often a helpful approach when it comes
to the climate crisis in particular. So by embracing
technological innovations and free market solutions,
conservatives can play a really pivotal role when it comes to combating
climate change without relying solely on government mandates
or whatever executive order comes out of the White
House. And there's just a couple
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of solutions I want to bring up. Obviously we're going to talk about these in further
detail in the coming weeks because they are very timely right now.
Carbon pricing and incentives for innovation. A lot
of conservatives advocate for policies like
carbon dividends, cap and trade systems, where businesses
are incentivized to reduce their emissions and the
revenue is then returned to citizens. These solutions
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can reduce emissions while also promoting economic growth and
job creation and caring for the most economically vulnerable in our
society, predominantly through the
redistribution of a carbon fee and dividend to low
and middle income Americans. Obviously investing in clean energy
as a whole. The clean energy sector, regardless, regardless of what's going on in
the White House right now, is rapidly expanding because it is the
future beyond the guy who's in the White House right now. And
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conservative youth can embrace technologies like wind,
solar, nuclear. All of these are increasingly
affordable and efficient and will probably continue to become so
in recent and future years. With many private
investments in these areas. These clean energy industries are going to
be growing faster than expected.
So some companies like Next Era
Energy, uh, which is one of the largest renewable energy companies in the
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US have grown rapidly, which is showing That a market
based approach to energy can thrive and be successful.
So what's another thing that can give us hope? Um, looking at
historical precedents of conservative environmental
leadership is one of the ones that I always go to also,
because it's fun to throw conservatives for a whirl when you start bringing up
these folks that they've like, idolized and think might be
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anti climate change when they find out that they're actually more pro
climate change than they are. So obviously there's a really rich
history of environmental stewardship within conservative ideology.
Teddy Roosevelt and his conservation efforts, and Richard
Nixon and his creation of the epa. Ronald Reagan with
his citizens first ideology when it came to
caring for the environment yourself so that the government doesn't have to
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tell you how to do it. Obviously, these are all huge names
when it comes to the conservative movement.
They're all equally huge when it comes to the
environmental movement. So by looking
back at some of these successes, young conservatives
can find both inspiration and confidence in continuing the fight. Well, what
are some more specific examples of those? Some of Reagan's
environmental policies. Despite his reputation as a pro business
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conservative, he passed a lot of key
environmental legislation, including the
1984amendments to the Clean Water Act. He
supported the Montreal Protocol to protect the ozone
layer, just to name a few. So a lot of modern
conservative environmentalists are also working
in the field of climate change. So groups like the
Conservative Climate Caucus advocate for climate
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solutions that prioritize free markets, technological
innovation, and individual liberty. We've talked a lot on this
show about our friends at Republic en, at the American
Conservation Coalition, at, uh, Citizens Climate Lobbies,
Conservative caucuses, and those are just a few of them. There is
a growing number of conservatives who are engaged
in the environmental movement, and if that doesn't sell you,
okay, here's number four. By promoting conservation
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and resilience at the national and global levels,
we can continue to stay informed and engaged. We can
encourage our friends and other folks who might be interested
in these things to also get engaged at various different
levels. So supporting candidates and policies that
prioritize climate action can be done without
stifling economic growth. A lot of these, A lot of people seem to think
that these things can't go hand in hand, but in reality,
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they do. So example, a
lot of conservative leaders have supported sustainable practices in
agriculture. Um, they've supported the expansion of national
parks, the protection of wildlife. Um, a lot of conservative figures
have advocated for solutions like carbon capture and storage
technology, which could end up being pivotal in reducing emissions
in the near future. At this point, I'm open to ideas. I'm not in a
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position to complain. So what does all of
this mean? As we look back and kind of
recap the struggle against climate
change can humanly feel like an immense burden. However,
it's belief that action is still possible,
that even small efforts can add up, that
fuels our long term progress.
By staying resilient, by staying hopeful,
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young environmental conservatives can be part of a growing
movement to protect the environment through responsible,
sustainable policies and market driven solutions.
Obviously, the journey ahead will not be easy. The
setbacks will come, but we too can find
strength in our resilience and the support of
friends, the support of other
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environmental conservatives, and the work of the folks who have come before
us. We can continue to find strength in
our communities, in our historical precedent,
and in the growing movement for change.
The day may come when the courage of Ben fails,
when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of
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fellowship. But it is not this day. This
day we fight. But what
can we do? We're just hobbits.
Indeed. For the last time,
the world will be saved by such small people as
you. But you must believe
that it can be saved
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It.
Hello and welcome to the Green Tea Party where we
discuss conservative solutions to environmental
problems. I'm Katie
Zakreski and today I'll guide you through complex issues
and provide strategies to address them all while
remaining faithful to my conservative values.
It'll be a good time, so grab your mugs and
I'll pour the tea.
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The Ring has passed through many hands, Frodo.
And now it lies with you. The
evil that it carries has grown stronger over the
years. And Sauron's power is
increasing. His servants are searching for the
Ring. They will stop at nothing to reclaim
it. But I don't understand,
Gandalf. Why would the Ring come to me?
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I'm just a simple Hobbit. There must be someone
stronger or wiser who could carry it.
You were right, Frodo. There are many
who might be more capable, more powerful.
But the Ring is a cruel master.
It corrupts those who possess
has no interest in the strong or the wise.
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The simple, the humble, like you,
are the ones it chooses. Those who seek to use
it are most often the ones who fall to its
temptations.
But I don't want it. Gandalf. I never asked
for this. What can I possibly do with it?
I know, Frodo. You are not alone
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in this. There are others who will help you.
But the Ring could not remain here.
Sauron is looking for it. He must never find
it. If the Ring is destroyed,
his power will be shattered.
But it is such a great evil I don't know
if I have the strength to carry it. I wish it
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need not have happened in my time. So do
I. And so do all who live to see such
times. But that is not for them to
decide.
All we have to decide is what to
do with the time that is given us.
It is in our power to make a difference in
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how we face this challenge.
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Last night, my husband and I sat down on the couch.
After a very long week, we decided to watch
a movie. He knows I'm a big Lord of the Rings nerd. And we
decided to watch Fellowship of the Rings. And then this scene
came up. The one where things are very dark and gloomy
and Gandalf and Frodo are talking. And Frodo
laments that he's been tasked with saving the entire
(03:13):
world. And Gandalf more or less hits him with an I
feel that, uh. But that's not really up to us at this point.
Now it's up to us to decide what we're gonna do from here.
What an incredible timing. This scene spoke
very loudly to me last night and I thought,
okay, I'm feeling a little bit like Frodo these days.
Um, I think a lot of environmental conservatives are feeling the burden of
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climate change and the fact that the political climate is heavy
and we didn't choose to be alive during this time. But what is
up to us is what we do at this time.
So as Gandalf says, it's not the circumstances we face,
but how we respond to them. And that defines our actions and our
future. So over the last couple weeks, I've been a little
less than sunshiny because if you've turned on the news lately,
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it's pretty easy to imagine why. But as I
completely continue to fluctuate between this state
of like, absolute mania and
hopeful resilience, I figure we ought to analyze that.
Maybe I'm just like having a cathartic moment with you all and you
all get to watch my mental breakdown in real time. Who knows? But
we're on this roller coaster together. So I figured
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we could talk a little bit today about one resilience to
rule them all and hopefully in the darkness bind them, Whatever. So,
alright, let's do this. Is like the equivalent of
when you're on a field trip and you get back on the bus and then the
teacher like, does a mental check of where we're all at. It's almost
like a Previously on, um, last week's episode of Dragon
Ball Z kind of moment. Where are we at right now?
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Okay, well, things aren't great. Uh, according
to NASA, the global average temperature has increased about
1.2 degrees Celsius since the late 19th
century. Great. Uh, Earth's
temperature in 2020 was about 1.2 degrees Celsius
above the pre industrial average. Great.
Uh, this warming is tied to extreme weather events, rising sea
levels and habitat loss for catless species. Couldn't be
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me. Um, except it's about to be. Um,
there's been a lot of extreme weather lately. We've talked about it on the show.
I'm not going to rehash it. You're not living under a rock.
Um, tons of biodiversity loss.
World Wildlife Funds Living Planet Report
2020 found that wildlife populations have declined by nearly
70% since 1970. According to the
NOAA, in 2020 the US experienced
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22. Uh, blah, blah. You've heard it all before. Okay,
you get the point. Shit's not great right now.
So let's talk about the role of us Frodo hobbits,
if you will. And I'm not being offensive to your feet, the
role of environmental conservatives. So
obviously, young conservatives have a critical and a
crucial role to play in the future of climate policy. This is not just
a liberal issue. You've, uh, beat that horse to death I don't know how many times
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now. Environmental stewardship has historically been
a part of conservative thought. Recap. In case you haven't
been listening to the show for the last two years, a lot of
conservatives believe in the idea of protecting the natural world for future
generations. Historically, Republicans like Teddy
Roosevelt, Ronald Reagan have all supported conservation
efforts, federal parks, significant
environmental protections. In 1970, President
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Nixon, another Republican, created the EPA. Uh, even though
the current GOP is gutting it as we speak,
um, young conservatives can approach things from a free market
perspective. I mean, in 2021, wind and solar accounted for
12% of total U.S. energy generation.
That should be way higher. Um, major
companies like Tesla, well, maybe we don't really
know, and Microsoft are leading the way with ambitious carbon
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neutral goals. Hooray. These are good. Okay, but what does all this
mean? This just sounds like a bunch of rambling in my state of mania
to you all. Let me hit my blicky and I'll attempt to pull
this all together for you. Wonderful.
Let's talk about resilience.
So why is it important to keep going?
As much as I want to curl up in a ball and die under
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my coffee table in my living room? Well, there's a few
different reasons.
So obviously the fight against climate change is a marathon,
not a sprint. What does that mean? It means
that small actions add up over time and they can have
significant impacts. While immediate results might not always
be visible, the groundwork is being laid today and will
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have lasting effects. I know. It's also very hard during
this time to think of that mentality because it seems like,
you know, for years we were working really, really hard
to set up certain agencies, which we can argue
until the cows come home, whether or not they were really
effectively doing the jobs that they were supposed to be doing. Probably not. That's just
a perk of being involved with the government in any way, shape or form.
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But I don't know that completely shutting them down is the way to handle that.
Um, but it can be a little bit
overwhelming to have this mentality when you see
like entire governmental
departments named after meme dogs.
Um, absolutely gutting everything that you've worked for
in your young 20 something year old life. And that can definitely make you
wonder, you know, why did I bother going to school for six years and racking
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up $50,000 worth of debt if somebody, um, with
funny coin and funny meme
hat is just gonna become the next
whatever. Okay, I'm going down a rabbit hole here, and that's not what I'm supposed
to be doing.
Young people are key. That
felt more powerful when I wrote it as opposed to
when I said it. So. Young people are the future. I know you've probably
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heard that phrase like 10 billion times over, but you've got my
permission to believe it when I say it. But it's the truth. The youth movement
around climate change is often dominated by liberals, but
guess what? Young people on both
sides of the political aisle care about climate change. That's good
news. Really and truly it is. Especially since a lot of the decisions being
made by right now are being made by people who
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don't believe in climate change on any side of the aisle. I don't
even think their political affiliation is really even
relevant at this point. But obviously there's a growing number of young
conservatives and entrepreneurs who are stepping up to
tackle climate change. Example, a 2021 poll
by the Conservative Environmental Network found that nearly
60% of young conservatives are concerned about climate change and support
government action or reduced emission. That's great news. We
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just need them to get more involved and be active.
And there's power in local action. Again, another horse that
we frequently beat to death on this show is getting
involved not just once every four years during your federal
election, but constantly staying up to date with what's going
on in your local area, whether that's your city,
your county, your town, your township,
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what have you. Obviously, all of our listeners
should be. And, um, let's be honest, if you're listening to this
show, you already want to make a difference. You sought out this show on your
own. You want to make a difference on a local level, whether
it's through community projects, supporting sustainable local
businesses, advocating for sensible policy
changes that are in line with our conservative values. A lot
of these local efforts can create change in communities and help them
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build broader momentum. So why do hope and
resilience matter, other than like, just to get out of bed in
the morning?
Let's talk about that. So the reality of climate
change and environmental degradation is that they can
sometimes feel insurmountable. Um, it's a lot to
have a whole lot of bad news thrown at you all at once,
especially when that bad news tends to pile up and bury the good
(10:04):
news underneath its mass. But obviously, change
is required to. What the fuck? What
am I? How do. Did I actively try to
Unlearn English before I recorded today's
episode. So the changes
required to address these global issues,
whether they be in policy, technology
or lifestyle, might almost sometimes
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feel unachievable, at least within our lifetime
as young people. And we've got more lifetime than a whole lot of people.
But hope and resilience are essential for
several reasons. One, as I mentioned earlier, climate
change is a long term battle. Climate, uh, change
isn't a problem that's going to be solved overnight. It's a
decades, or maybe even a centuries long
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challenge that, uh, will demand persistent
effort and constant work and maintenance. And
while many are probably enamored with quick
solutions, the path forward is going to be a gradual one. That's
simply the nature of the beast. And hope
helps us to sustain that long term commitment.
And without it, we risk giving up in the face of temporary
setbacks, which a gentle aside, as if this whole episode
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hasn't been rife with not so gentle
asides, but.
So here's a gentle one for you. Um, I'm incredibly
proud of everybody who is still listening to the show
and who is still active in politics to some degree, even
in spite of everything that's happened over the last few months, because I think
we've said on this show several times before,
all that it takes for evil to triumph, um, is for
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good people to do nothing. And so if you are
still eager to do good things
in spite of everything bad that's happened lately and all
of the sucker punches that I think that young people in
particular have been dealt in terms of, you know, I don't know that I
can afford eggs anymore. I'm just gonna buy a whole chicken at this point.
So if you're constantly eating a shit sandwich like me, and you're
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still finding a way to get up and do this every single morning and care about this
in your spare time, kisses all over your precious
little face, you're incredible. Uh, you're doing a lot of
good work. Please do not give up. It will all pay off
in the end. Aside, over. So resilience
becomes necessary because setbacks will
occur. It's not if they will occur. I'm going to call this
(12:11):
one big setback. Everything going on right now is just one big setback.
Not the end of the world, just one big setback. Um, there will
always, always, always, always, always, always be policy
reversals, economic challenges, and
a seeming lack of immediate
progress. But resilience
then is our ability to keep going in the face
of all these challenges instead of, you know,
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getting lost in the minutiae of a win
or a loss, day by day, we have to take a step
back and stay focused on the big picture.
Obviously, hope keeps people engaged in an effort. When
hope gives up, people give up and the effort fails.
So when people feel like they can't make a difference, they disengage.
Hope is a force that motivates action.
It's, you know, our belief that change is possible,
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even if that means a whole lot of hard work and a
long term commitment. Because let's be honest, I wouldn't be
recording this show, you wouldn't be listening to the
show, our producer wouldn't be producing this show, our
social media manager wouldn't be promoting this show, we wouldn't
be writing the scripts for this show or recording this show or
doing anything if we didn't think that it wasn't going
to pay off in some way. And I don't just mean like,
(13:19):
somebody's gonna sponsor me and send me that nice cast iron skillet
I've always wanted. No, I hope that
throughout the recording and production
of the show, more people have the
tools and lingo and
knowledge needed to make a difference in their own
communities. I mean, even if it's just one person
who writes to me and says, katie, I was able to do
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XYZ in my community because of something I learned on your show,
I can retire because that means that I have officially had,
um, a positive impact of some sort. Um,
and I'm sure that I have. I might not know about it. I
think that that's half the battle with true
conservative environmental activism. You're not being put on a podium
anywhere. And a lot of your work is happening behind the scenes. A lot of the
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good impact you have, you might never hear about it personally.
So the nature of true altruistic activism
is tough because you're never, you're never getting the
shiny medal or the award and you never will. And you don't do
it for that in the first place. You do it to make a difference. But that
sure don't make it easy to do so. Without
hope, individuals tend to become apathetic. I don't have to tell
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you this. You probably already know it. You've experienced apathy or burnout
to some extent within the last few months, I'm sure. But these things are
detrimental to any movement, particularly one as urgent
as the environmental movement and conservation in general. And
we're working on a different clock than maybe some of the other
issues that are out there.
Resilience helps individuals sit.
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I swear To God V. Go.
Great. You've lost your freedom privileges. Come on.
Hey, it's 4:15. It's as good as time as any to crack open
a beer and talk about the end of the world.
This, uh, tastes like ass. Oh my God.
(15:04):
Okay, perhaps there is a better
time, uh, to drink a beer, being not right
now.
So obviously resilience helps individuals stay committed even
when results are slow to materialize. Hope
also encourages innovation and new ideas.
The world is facing significant challenges. A lot of them
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are overwhelming. But when people are able
to maintain hope, they're more likely to look for innovative
solutions. So young conservatives have the
unique opportunity to advocate for
market driven solutions to climate change, which
can align both with conservative values and with sustainable
outcomes. And they can continue to look for other avenues
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that fit within our conservative values to
address this issue. This is a really unique issue that we'll probably
need several economic levers to address, which
guess what, that's conservatives wheelhouse. And it's
that hope that's going to spur that innovation.
So resilience and innovation obviously comes when people don't give up,
but rather find new ways to tackle old problems.
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A lot of renewable energy technologies like
solar, wind, battery storage have
all been improved dramatically in recent years due to the
persistence of innovators and entrepreneurs who believe in a
sustainable future and the ability to do better.
I think my cat is screaming now,
except she's deaf, uh, so she doesn't know how loud she's
screaming.
(16:35):
Another hit off the old vapor rooney
to try to quell the
persistent rage that I
feel. So
obviously hope creates a supportive community. And when it comes to
climate activism, none of this can be done alone.
Um, there's no reason for this to be a lonely journey. Hope
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fosters a community of like minded individuals who
are all going to support each other. They're going to share
strategies, celebrate victories no matter how small
they are. And resilient individuals understand
that collaboration is the key to success.
Many hands make light work. You've probably
heard that phrase before.
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So having a supportive community can help
young environmental conservatives like us, uh, feel less
isolated and more capable of carrying that
burden.
So I want to talk a little bit about finding hope and
moving forward. There's one thing I love to do on all my shows and I don't just like,
talk at you. I want to give you ideas for how to
fix things, or at least get you, you know, maybe
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brainstorming about how to fix things. It's not enough to talk about a
problem, in my opinion. So while the Journey is long. There
are a lot of reasons, believe it or not, to be
hopeful. The idea is to,
you know, feel inspired enough as you continue
your advocacy. Um, because
this is a growing movement, particularly
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for environmental conservatives. So the role
of innovative technology and innovation in general has, uh, played
a pivotal part in addressing climate change. That's something young conservatives should
be especially, especially excited about.
Because now young conservatives can support policies that encourage the development
of new technologies to combat climate change.
To combat climate change. Pardon me. English is
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hard. Climate m Capture. Oh my
God, do I speak English?
So carbon capture and storage is an emerging
technology that could also play a significant role in
reducing CO2 emissions. So in
2020, the United States Department of Energy
invested 80 million into projects related to
this. And, um, everything
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that the government is doing right now
does not necessarily undo the things that we've already
done. It just prevents
more things from happening
until we find somebody else. And if you think that we
can undo 50 years worth of work in a
four year period, then I would tell you that the
American presidency is inherently flawed and
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we're fighting the wrong battle. So take heart in
knowing that the guy in the White House might change every
four years, but the impact and the trajectory of
the work that we've done is
going to last longer than that.
Obviously, there are a lot of conservatives out there in the world making a difference.
You've probably heard of them. They've almost become household
(19:24):
names. Nancy, uh, Mace, John
Curtis, Mitt Romney, just to name a few. Bruce
Westerman. I'm going to lump him in there. There are
plenty of conservatives whose names have become synonymous
with environment and climate action. A lot
of conservative lawmakers are pushing for carbon based solutions
or market based solutions. Pardon me, like carbon dividends, which
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we'll talk about in a future episode. Investments in green
technologies that create jobs without the need for heavy handed
regulation. Uh, in 2020, Arnold Schwarzenegger launched
the Art Regions of Climate Action initiative.
So obviously there are plenty of conservatives who are concerned with the
issues of climate change. But whether or not they
make the news should not impact your
ability to do these things. Even if nobody reports
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on them, you should do them anyway. So
where are some ways. What are,
where are the places that people can
find hope? Well, you probably guessed it before I
even said it. I would say, number one, by focusing on
local action and community engagement. So while global
issues like climate change can seem insurmountable,
breaking it down to the local level is incredibly
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impactful. So that's where a lot of environmental conservation begins.
Whether you like it or not, it's not at the White House, it's at your local city
hall. Um, young conservatives can find hope in
small but meaningful contributions like supporting local green
businesses or engaging in community conservation projects.
You've got to know where these businesses are in your community, what they're
involved in, and support them as part of the broader solution.
Obviously you want to participate in local environmental efforts like tree
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planting, recycling programs, working with local
policy makers to promote smart growth and conservation
policies. Just an example. In many rural communities,
farmers are adopting regenerative agricultural practices,
reducing their carbon footprint, maintaining healthy and productive
land. A lot of these localized efforts add up because the
people who are doing them talk to other people who end up doing them
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when they hear how successful they are. So word of mouth is
a powerful tool, especially on the local level.
Number two, we can find hope in promoting carbon market.
Oh my God, how many more times am I going to say that? Number
two, we can find hope as well by promoting market
based solutions. So obviously you're not new around
these parts. Conservatives are advocates for market
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driven solutions, which are often a helpful approach when it comes
to the climate crisis in particular. So by embracing
technological innovations and free market solutions,
conservatives can play a really pivotal role when it comes to combating
climate change without relying solely on government mandates
or whatever executive order comes out of the White
House. And there's just a couple
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of solutions I want to bring up. Obviously we're going to talk about these in further
detail in the coming weeks because they are very timely right now.
Carbon pricing and incentives for innovation. A lot
of conservatives advocate for policies like
carbon dividends, cap and trade systems, where businesses
are incentivized to reduce their emissions and the
revenue is then returned to citizens. These solutions
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can reduce emissions while also promoting economic growth and
job creation and caring for the most economically vulnerable in our
society, predominantly through the
redistribution of a carbon fee and dividend to low
and middle income Americans. Obviously investing in clean energy
as a whole. The clean energy sector, regardless, regardless of what's going on in
the White House right now, is rapidly expanding because it is the
future beyond the guy who's in the White House right now. And
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conservative youth can embrace technologies like wind,
solar, nuclear. All of these are increasingly
affordable and efficient and will probably continue to become so
in recent and future years. With many private
investments in these areas. These clean energy industries are going to
be growing faster than expected.
So some companies like Next Era
Energy, uh, which is one of the largest renewable energy companies in the
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US have grown rapidly, which is showing That a market
based approach to energy can thrive and be successful.
So what's another thing that can give us hope? Um, looking at
historical precedents of conservative environmental
leadership is one of the ones that I always go to also,
because it's fun to throw conservatives for a whirl when you start bringing up
these folks that they've like, idolized and think might be
(23:22):
anti climate change when they find out that they're actually more pro
climate change than they are. So obviously there's a really rich
history of environmental stewardship within conservative ideology.
Teddy Roosevelt and his conservation efforts, and Richard
Nixon and his creation of the epa. Ronald Reagan with
his citizens first ideology when it came to
caring for the environment yourself so that the government doesn't have to
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tell you how to do it. Obviously, these are all huge names
when it comes to the conservative movement.
They're all equally huge when it comes to the
environmental movement. So by looking
back at some of these successes, young conservatives
can find both inspiration and confidence in continuing the fight. Well, what
are some more specific examples of those? Some of Reagan's
environmental policies. Despite his reputation as a pro business
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conservative, he passed a lot of key
environmental legislation, including the
1984amendments to the Clean Water Act. He
supported the Montreal Protocol to protect the ozone
layer, just to name a few. So a lot of modern
conservative environmentalists are also working
in the field of climate change. So groups like the
Conservative Climate Caucus advocate for climate
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solutions that prioritize free markets, technological
innovation, and individual liberty. We've talked a lot on this
show about our friends at Republic en, at the American
Conservation Coalition, at, uh, Citizens Climate Lobbies,
Conservative caucuses, and those are just a few of them. There is
a growing number of conservatives who are engaged
in the environmental movement, and if that doesn't sell you,
okay, here's number four. By promoting conservation
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and resilience at the national and global levels,
we can continue to stay informed and engaged. We can
encourage our friends and other folks who might be interested
in these things to also get engaged at various different
levels. So supporting candidates and policies that
prioritize climate action can be done without
stifling economic growth. A lot of these, A lot of people seem to think
that these things can't go hand in hand, but in reality,
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they do. So example, a
lot of conservative leaders have supported sustainable practices in
agriculture. Um, they've supported the expansion of national
parks, the protection of wildlife. Um, a lot of conservative figures
have advocated for solutions like carbon capture and storage
technology, which could end up being pivotal in reducing emissions
in the near future. At this point, I'm open to ideas. I'm not in a
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position to complain. So what does all of
this mean? As we look back and kind of
recap the struggle against climate
change can humanly feel like an immense burden. However,
it's belief that action is still possible,
that even small efforts can add up, that
fuels our long term progress.
By staying resilient, by staying hopeful,
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young environmental conservatives can be part of a growing
movement to protect the environment through responsible,
sustainable policies and market driven solutions.
Obviously, the journey ahead will not be easy. The
setbacks will come, but we too can find
strength in our resilience and the support of
friends, the support of other
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environmental conservatives, and the work of the folks who have come before
us. We can continue to find strength in
our communities, in our historical precedent,
and in the growing movement for change.
The day may come when the courage of Ben fails,
when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of
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fellowship. But it is not this day. This
day we fight. But what
can we do? We're just hobbits.
Indeed. For the last time,
the world will be saved by such small people as
you. But you must believe
that it can be saved
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Ridiculous History
History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.