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August 22, 2023 20 mins

In previous episodes, Todd and Andre shed light on their different upbringings and the role that race played in those upbringings.

In this episode, Andre asks Todd when he first became aware of systemic bias against members of the black community, and Todd shares the first time he heard someone in his social network express support for discriminatory practices as well as the first time he saw firsthand how people from different races and ethnicities can experience very different living conditions in their neighborhoods.

They also discuss whether a desire for psychological safety makes white Americans not want to think about or engage on issues of race and the risks more generally of not discussing and dealing with issues that we simply can’t avoid. So let’s get to that conversation now. Enjoy…

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