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June 14, 2025 52 mins

In this episode, I speak with Hermann Kelly from the Irish Freedom Party about pressing issues in modern Ireland, including the impact of mass immigration on cultural identity and societal cohesion. Hermann highlights the demographic changes in Ireland and the connection between addiction and societal challenges, sharing his personal journey of recovery as an example. We discuss international tensions, particularly regarding Israel and Iran, and explore the challenges of multiculturalism in Ireland. Hermann advocates for newcomers to embrace traditional Irish values and emphasizes the importance of civic engagement in recent protests against mass immigration policies. The conversation concludes with a call to reaffirm the core values of Irish culture to ensure a thriving community.

 

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Hearts of Oak: And hello, Hearts of Ooc. Thanks so much for joining us once again, (00:23):
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Hearts of Oak: as great to have Herman Kelly joining us from the Irish Freedom Party to give (00:26):
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Hearts of Oak: us his thoughts on what's happened this week with an Irish flavour. (00:31):
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Hearts of Oak: Herman, thanks as always for joining us. (00:36):
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Hermann Kelly: Oh, thank you, Peter. It's always great to see you. Great. (00:38):
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Hearts of Oak: And I see the, I don't know if there's an advert for Guinness behind you, but I see the harp there. (00:41):
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Hermann Kelly: Irish harp, yeah. It's a very ancient, a very beautiful instrument and a very (00:47):
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Hermann Kelly: ancient symbol of Ireland. (00:53):
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Hermann Kelly: Actually, it's funny that a lot of people across Europe, they knew of Ireland (00:55):
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Hermann Kelly: because of harp playing, (01:01):
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Hermann Kelly: the beauty of harp playing, and also the ancient myths of Asin and Tain and (01:02):
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Hermann Kelly: Old and something, Ferdi and stuff like Dermot and Ferdi and all these ancient (01:06):
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Hermann Kelly: myths that the French used to talk about in the 18th century. (01:11):
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Hermann Kelly: It's quite, yeah, I don't drink at all, actually. I don't like drinking Guinness. (01:15):
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Hermann Kelly: I don't drink a pack of... You know what? (01:22):
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Hermann Kelly: The thing about the Irish Freedom Party, it's also not just about your country free of EU control. (01:25):
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Hermann Kelly: It's not in favor of Irish centralization around Dublin. (01:32):
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Hermann Kelly: It's about personal freedom and also an aspect which is often overlooked is (01:37):
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Hermann Kelly: that freedom from addiction, freedom from being dependent on a need for something (01:43):
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Hermann Kelly: and that includes being i'm a free man, (01:49):
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Hermann Kelly: part of that is being free of addiction to things that you (01:52):
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Hermann Kelly: may need or be addicted to so i i one (01:55):
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Hermann Kelly: of my children had a bit of trouble i thought the least thing i (02:00):
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Hermann Kelly: can be as a father is a good example so over (02:03):
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Hermann Kelly: three and a half years ago i stopped smoking and drinking overnight purely (02:06):
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Hermann Kelly: to be a good example to my children and you know what i know (02:10):
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Hermann Kelly: you're not supposed to say this but i found it very very (02:13):
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Hermann Kelly: easy i tried to give up smoking before and it was very (02:15):
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Hermann Kelly: difficult but just when i had my mind made (02:18):
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Hermann Kelly: up by an act of the will i can improve my (02:21):
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Hermann Kelly: life i want to show this to my children and you know what a friend of mine to (02:24):
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Hermann Kelly: the neighbor uh and murphy he said to me if you don't want to smoke just don't (02:29):
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Hermann Kelly: let a cigarette touch your lips right it's that simple it is that simple just (02:34):
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Hermann Kelly: don't allow a cigarette to touch your lips and i've never had a cigarette since. (02:38):
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Hearts of Oak: Well it is about that personal responsibility and sadly we live in an age where (02:42):
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Hearts of Oak: nothing's our fault it's all society's fault or gene's fault but um yeah that (02:47):
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Hearts of Oak: shows you can actually make your own choices (02:53):
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Hermann Kelly: Well just let me go a bit further on this actually i like there was a a man (02:55):
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Hermann Kelly: actually a priest involved a very big player in irish history at the end of (03:02):
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Hermann Kelly: the 19th century father murphy and his big thing is ireland sober is Ireland free. (03:07):
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Hermann Kelly: Now, at the minute, our country is being overrun by mass immigration. (03:13):
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Hermann Kelly: We have very little democratic power left in Ireland even in the, (03:17):
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Hermann Kelly: in the Dáil. So much of this power has been gone off the supernational organizations (03:23):
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Hermann Kelly: such as the EU, the UN, the World Health Organization, etc. (03:28):
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Hermann Kelly: And huge demographic change is taking place in Ireland. Cultural change is taking place. (03:34):
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Hermann Kelly: Almost a quarter of people living in Ireland at the minute are non-Iwish. (03:41):
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Hermann Kelly: This change has happened over a very, very short period of time, (03:45):
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Hermann Kelly: where in Britain it went over many decades. (03:49):
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Hermann Kelly: And Ireland virtually happened since 2004 at the latest. (03:52):
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Hermann Kelly: And so many men seem to be asleep at the wheel, oh, just doing nothing. (03:57):
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Hermann Kelly: One big part of the problem is actually Ireland has the third biggest cocaine (04:02):
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Hermann Kelly: consumption per capita in the world. And it's been at that for the last five years. (04:10):
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Hermann Kelly: So the problem is people are rather off their heads on cocaine, (04:15):
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Hermann Kelly: on alcohol and now in our big thing is social media and porn for men, (04:20):
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Hermann Kelly: addiction to porn and stuff like that there, (04:28):
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Hermann Kelly: so I think it's very very important to emphasize the whole aspect of free people in a free country, (04:30):
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Hermann Kelly: but that comes from a healthy mind and a healthy body and to keep away from (04:39):
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Hermann Kelly: things that are addictive and that means drink, cigarettes, alcohol, (04:44):
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Hermann Kelly: pornography, things like that. (04:49):
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Hermann Kelly: To be free is to be free of these addictions and free from dependency on something that you need. (04:51):
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Hermann Kelly: So I emphasize not just a political project, but it's also culturally and it's also political. (04:58):
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Hermann Kelly: Personal, to free people in a free country and a healthy mind and a healthy body. (05:06):
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Hermann Kelly: These things are very closely tied together. (05:12):
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Hermann Kelly: And sadly, there's too many men who are asleep at the wheel because they're (05:14):
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Hermann Kelly: off their heads on various addicted dependency and various things. (05:18):
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Hearts of Oak: You're 100%. Now, we'll get into the immigration side. (05:23):
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Hearts of Oak: But if I could start with something which is quite different, and none of us, (05:27):
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Hearts of Oak: neither herman nor myself are necessarily (05:33):
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Hearts of Oak: iran or israel experts but it (05:37):
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Hearts of Oak: is this breaking news that i wanted to (05:40):
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Hearts of Oak: first touch on and this is israel targets iran's nuclear (05:43):
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Hearts of Oak: sites and military commanders in major attacks and this is the the bbc's this (05:46):
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Hearts of Oak: mornings just before we record this on friday morning so a day before it goes (05:52):
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Hearts of Oak: out we may not be here on saturday evening by the time this goes So who knows? (05:58):
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Hearts of Oak: But it says Israel's military says Iran has fired about 100 drones towards its (06:03):
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Hearts of Oak: territory after Israel launched a major attack on Iran overnight. (06:07):
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Hearts of Oak: The IDF said it carried out strikes on nuclear sites. (06:12):
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Hearts of Oak: I think there were 200 aircraft that were involved. (06:16):
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Hearts of Oak: Israel declared a state of emergency and I saw pictures from Iran with the red (06:21):
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Hearts of Oak: flags being raised on mosques which meant that it was a state of war Now, (06:26):
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Hermann Kelly: So what are your thoughts? (06:34):
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Hearts of Oak: Obviously we heard the last few days America pulling out some of its diplomatic (06:36):
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Hearts of Oak: people from parts of the Middle East and the thought was, (06:40):
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Hearts of Oak: well, this is now building up to an attack And it happened as we were fast asleep (06:46):
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Hearts of Oak: when we've woken up to this. (06:52):
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Hearts of Oak: But yeah, Herman, neither has been experts, but obviously this is an issue of concern for all of us. (06:55):
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Hermann Kelly: Yeah, because there will be retaliation. It could lead. We don't know what it will lead to. (07:03):
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Hermann Kelly: I presume it will be a military escalation from Iran. (07:10):
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Hermann Kelly: I understand there's 100 drones flying from Iran towards Israel at the moment. (07:14):
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Hermann Kelly: You've got to say, I used to say you have a friend on the hurting team. (07:21):
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Hermann Kelly: I used to talk about getting your retaliation in first before they hit you, you hit them. (07:24):
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Hermann Kelly: And before the match would start and the whistle would be blown, (07:29):
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Hermann Kelly: he would go and he would ram the butt of the hurting stick through the guy's face. (07:33):
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Hermann Kelly: This is what he called getting your retaliation in first. (07:37):
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Hermann Kelly: And seemingly this is what Israel have gone for after fear of Iran coming up (07:40):
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Hermann Kelly: with nuclear weapons, which obviously is very dangerous and existentially dangerous for Israel. (07:45):
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Hermann Kelly: Any Islamic regime, I believe, is dangerous to the whole world. (07:54):
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Hermann Kelly: I believe Islamic Jihad and demographic overplay all across Europe is very, (08:00):
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Hermann Kelly: very dangerous globally. (08:12):
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Hermann Kelly: This Churchill used to say Islam in a man is like rabies in a dog and certainly (08:14):
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Hermann Kelly: the ideology of political Islam this will to dominate and subjugate or annihilate (08:21):
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Hermann Kelly: is incredibly dangerous. (08:29):
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Hermann Kelly: I think people are very naive their knowledge of history over the last 1300 (08:31):
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Hermann Kelly: years about the impact and the history and the interaction of Islamic people (08:37):
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Hermann Kelly: and cultures with non-Islamic cultures is always basically one of. (08:45):
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Hermann Kelly: Throughout a lot of history has been one of violence. (08:51):
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Hermann Kelly: They have violence with every culture with which they come into contact. (08:55):
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Hermann Kelly: We are incredibly naive to just sit back and allow it to roll on and even in (09:00):
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Hermann Kelly: America and all across Europe, (09:09):
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Hermann Kelly: demographically there's about 5 million Muslims in France, in Germany, (09:12):
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Hermann Kelly: a very high percentage in Sweden. (09:17):
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Hermann Kelly: All the these cultures, these people from this culture, I believe is incompatible with European culture. (09:20):
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Hermann Kelly: They mean, they tell you explicitly, I would say the Quran is like a proto-terrorism (09:29):
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Hermann Kelly: manual, but it instructs the believers in Muhammad to go out and to, (09:35):
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Hermann Kelly: dominate and subjugate non-Muslim believers, and they don't do that to annihilate them. By, (09:44):
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Hermann Kelly: clearly says in the Quran about behead non-believers. (09:51):
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Hermann Kelly: And it's very, very dangerous, and the people better wake up, (09:56):
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Hermann Kelly: and through legal means, financial means, whatever means possible, (10:00):
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Hermann Kelly: we must do everything possible to stop the growth of Islamic jihad all across the world. (10:04):
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Hermann Kelly: It is extremely dangerous and one of the large existential threats to European civilization. It is. (10:10):
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Hearts of Oak: And of course, the Islamic Revolution, Iran from 79, Iran was very different (10:20):
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Hearts of Oak: before, fairly secular, and that's changed. This is a big story. (10:23):
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Hearts of Oak: Sorry, 200 aircraft were involved. I said 100. It's a huge operation. (10:29):
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Hearts of Oak: They said they expect more strikes. (10:32):
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Hearts of Oak: I don't know. I saw the head of the International Agency on Atomic Stuff, the IA, I think it is. (10:35):
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Hearts of Oak: But they said the comment was, the phrase was, it's not a good idea to attack nuclear facilities. (10:44):
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Hearts of Oak: I thought that was fairly common sense. That's my concern, that actually one (10:51):
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Hearts of Oak: of these missiles that Israel fires, Target 1 area, actually goes in a slightly (10:55):
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Hearts of Oak: different direction, hits a nuclear facility. (11:01):
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Hearts of Oak: So that's the big concern. We really are playing with fire in this. (11:04):
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Hearts of Oak: But I agree with you completely that that push on Islam to dominate all across (11:08):
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Hearts of Oak: the Middle East is hugely concerning. (11:13):
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Hearts of Oak: Israel is the only kind of common sense democracy in the middle of that. (11:15):
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Hermann Kelly: Even when you look at the history, like the demographic changes in Palestine, Lebanon. (11:22):
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Hermann Kelly: Lebanon in the 1970s was a majority Christian country. (11:31):
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Hermann Kelly: Now they're almost being, I wouldn't say wiped out, but they're now a small (11:36):
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Hermann Kelly: and decreasing minority in their own country. (11:41):
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Hermann Kelly: They give refuge to many people, Muslims from various countries and conflicts. (11:44):
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Hermann Kelly: They came into the country and basically Muslims took over when they got the (11:50):
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Hermann Kelly: chance, first demographically and then politically and now militarily. (11:53):
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Hermann Kelly: And Christians are treated like dogs in their own country. (11:58):
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Hermann Kelly: So we shouldn't be naive to the threat that political Islam presents to the (12:01):
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Hermann Kelly: world and we really do have to be cognizant of it and we've got to decide are (12:06):
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Hermann Kelly: we just going to sit here and get taken over or are we going to do something (12:11):
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Hermann Kelly: about it? So the whole thing like, (12:15):
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Hermann Kelly: Make things uncomfortable culturally, and that would include, (12:18):
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Hermann Kelly: no, you can't have your poor wives if you come into Ireland. (12:21):
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Hermann Kelly: You can't have your halal food. (12:24):
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Hermann Kelly: You can't have your interest-free loan, like your Islamic banking in Ireland. (12:27):
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Hermann Kelly: This is when in Rome do the Romans do. This is our country. This is our culture. (12:34):
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Hermann Kelly: You want to come in here. This is what you do. (12:38):
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Hermann Kelly: And the thing is, they present a large danger. What great benefit do they give (12:42):
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Hermann Kelly: that we can't get from other people from cultures which are compatible with European culture? (12:47):
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Hermann Kelly: And also, Islamic jihad presents a real danger, and we've got to do something (12:55):
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Hermann Kelly: about it. And actually, I'm actually disgusted as an Irish person looking across at Britain. (13:00):
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Hermann Kelly: When I see the videos of all stream of Islamic Muslim mayors in British towns, (13:06):
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Hermann Kelly: and they're all there, they're speaking Arabic, and they have their flags of Pakistan, (13:16):
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Hermann Kelly: flags of Morocco, and all this, I'm absolutely disgusted, and I'm appalled to see that. (13:21):
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Hermann Kelly: And it's a real wake-up call to people all across Europe. (13:27):
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Hermann Kelly: I know here in Brussels, for example, there was an Islamic party. (13:32):
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Hermann Kelly: Let me give you a few statistics. (13:37):
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Hermann Kelly: We looked up there, and you can double-check it on the internet, (13:40):
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Hermann Kelly: that in Brussels, 80% of young people under 18 have a migrant background. (13:44):
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Hermann Kelly: 80 percent and 42 percent (13:52):
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Hermann Kelly: of young people under 18 in brussels have at (13:56):
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Hermann Kelly: least one parent of an african background so that (13:59):
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Hermann Kelly: is absolutely that's demographic change at warp speed and if brussels is the (14:03):
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Hermann Kelly: political capital of europe well if if this is the road which europe intends (14:09):
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Hermann Kelly: to take it's incredibly bad for the rest of Europe, (14:16):
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Hermann Kelly: but this political capital is also going to be the cultural capital because (14:20):
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Hermann Kelly: they actually have the argument, yeah, yeah, yeah, (14:24):
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Hermann Kelly: there's conflict between the French speakers and the Flemish speakers, (14:27):
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Hermann Kelly: and Brussels, no, no, no, walking around town, you will hear more than nothing, (14:31):
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Hermann Kelly: any other language you will hear Arabic, and that is, (14:36):
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Hermann Kelly: well, that puts you on alert. (14:42):
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Hermann Kelly: It should wake people up to the demographic threat that Islam presents in Europe. (14:45):
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Hearts of Oak: Well, let's look at some of the demographic changes. Let's actually, (14:53):
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Hearts of Oak: this is a story about the UK, and then we'll jump across the water into Ireland. (14:56):
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Hearts of Oak: But here is a piece written by The Telegraph, and it is Annabelle Denham. (15:02):
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Hearts of Oak: I didn't think we were heading for civil war. Now I'm not so sure. (15:10):
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Hearts of Oak: We are not there yet, but uncontrolled immigration means our nation's cohesion is fraying fast. (15:14):
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Hearts of Oak: And she writes a great piece to say that she used to dismiss fears. (15:20):
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Hearts of Oak: Britain was headed for open sectarian conflict, possible civil war. (15:25):
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Hearts of Oak: But she says, now, however, I'm not so sure. (15:30):
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Hearts of Oak: The law-abiding majority are nearing the end of their tether. (15:32):
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Hearts of Oak: They cannot tolerate the sheer lawlessness they've seen. And it's a great, I think, (15:35):
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Hearts of Oak: snapshot of where many law-abiding Brits feel they are, and they feel powerless (15:40):
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Hearts of Oak: to these changes they are seeing in their communities. (15:48):
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Hermann Kelly: When you look, as I just mentioned earlier there, about the videos of the Muslim (15:55):
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Hermann Kelly: mayors throughout many British towns and cities, it is incredible. (16:00):
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Hermann Kelly: If you look at the demographics, the number of Muslims in Britain has swollen (16:07):
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Hermann Kelly: dramatically over the last number of decades. (16:14):
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Hermann Kelly: I don't think that I, I don't see anywhere that the people in Britain were ever consulted, (16:16):
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Hermann Kelly: were ever given their consent to that their streets and their cities be culturally (16:22):
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Hermann Kelly: changed, that they have to get rid of Christmas trees. (16:28):
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Hermann Kelly: They have to stop talking about Christmas holidays. (16:32):
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Hermann Kelly: They, you know, every symbol of unity in this culture, which is a bit like Christian (16:37):
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Hermann Kelly: culture, is to be silenced, is to be hidden, be covered up. (16:46):
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Hermann Kelly: And in its place, you have this so-called multicultural society, (16:51):
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Hermann Kelly: the problem with multicultural societies, and this was admitted by all the political (16:56):
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Hermann Kelly: leaders 15 years ago, by Angela Merkel, (17:00):
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Hermann Kelly: David Cameron, Sarkozy. (17:06):
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Hermann Kelly: They all said this multicultural experiment has failed. (17:08):
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Hermann Kelly: Why does multiculturalism fail? Because it leads to a low trust, (17:13):
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Hermann Kelly: high friction society where there's a breakdown in social cohesion. (17:20):
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Hermann Kelly: Let's look at it very simply. Why should I get up in the morning to go to work to pay taxes, (17:26):
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Hermann Kelly: to provide free stuff, free housing, free welfare, free accommodation, (17:33):
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Hermann Kelly: health care, education, roads, (17:40):
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Hermann Kelly: for a guy who lives in the road from Afghanistan or Somalia. (17:43):
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Hermann Kelly: Or I don't know how to pronounce his name. I don't know. He doesn't know how to speak my language. (17:49):
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Hermann Kelly: We have a completely different religion. (17:56):
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Hermann Kelly: We have no common history. (18:00):
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Hermann Kelly: There's nothing that I have in common with this guy, why should I go out to (18:03):
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Hermann Kelly: work and pay taxes to provide free stuff to a guy from a completely and utterly (18:08):
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Hermann Kelly: different culture actually this is where the left, (18:14):
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Hermann Kelly: mass immigration, the left should really understand that mass immigration is (18:17):
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Hermann Kelly: undermining and putting the throat of the foundation of the welfare state because it's, (18:23):
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Hermann Kelly: Commonality, it's a sense of solidarity, (18:32):
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Hermann Kelly: of communal solidarity and cultural solidarity is the foundation of the welfare (18:34):
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Hermann Kelly: state that people are willing to go to work to pay taxes, (18:41):
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Hermann Kelly: provide for people who fall in hard times, they get sick, they lose a job, etc. (18:44):
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Hermann Kelly: Yeah, but they're willing to do that for people with whom they have a lot in (18:50):
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Hermann Kelly: common, the same nationality, the same culture. (18:56):
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Hermann Kelly: They're not going to go and do that for people with whom they have absolutely nothing in common. (19:02):
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Hermann Kelly: And especially when that culture and these individuals are coming threatening (19:07):
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Hermann Kelly: that you must drop all the symbols of your culture and you must take up my culture. (19:12):
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Hermann Kelly: That is just, no, that's a recipe for resentment. (19:18):
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Hermann Kelly: And ultimately, as you referenced there in that article, eventually it could (19:22):
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Hermann Kelly: be a recipe for conflict. (19:27):
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Hermann Kelly: Because when there is a competition for limited resources, (19:28):
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Hermann Kelly: and for political power, it is very likely that eventually these fights politically (19:35):
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Hermann Kelly: could lead to greater conflict, like, you know, (19:42):
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Hermann Kelly: Exactly. (19:47):
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Hearts of Oak: Well, I want to jump over into Ireland and what's happening there. (19:48):
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Hearts of Oak: But here was a really interesting, I think you'd reposted it, (19:54):
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Hearts of Oak: and it's something slightly different and a positive story about the church in Europe. (19:59):
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Hearts of Oak: And we've seen, I know from Ireland, we've seen the collapse of a belief in (20:05):
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Hearts of Oak: the Irish state and the importance of Irishness and the role of the church. (20:12):
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Hearts of Oak: We've seen the biggest collapsing anywhere in Europe just over a generation. But here was a post. (20:18):
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Hearts of Oak: The leader of the Swedish group who brought a record number of young Swedes, (20:24):
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Hearts of Oak: including former atheists, to the Chardis Catholic pilgrimage, (20:28):
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Hearts of Oak: told me that great things are happening in secular Sweden. (20:31):
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Hearts of Oak: His video proposing to a fellow pilgrim has gone viral on social media. (20:35):
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Hearts of Oak: And he talks about many, many converts in Sweden and says, if even Swedes can (20:39):
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Hearts of Oak: convert to Christ, then anyone can. (20:46):
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Hearts of Oak: God is good. That's a good story. (20:48):
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Hermann Kelly: And kind of, I think. (20:51):
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Hearts of Oak: In the wilderness that Europe finds itself, not having an anchor off right and (20:52):
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Hearts of Oak: wrong with the collapse of the church. (20:58):
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Hearts of Oak: I just found this really interesting as I was scrolling through your feed to (20:59):
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Hearts of Oak: see, actually, this is a positive story about people returning to something which is good in Sweden. (21:05):
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Hermann Kelly: Yeah, absolutely. I've been to Sweden a few times. (21:12):
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Hermann Kelly: And actually, I noted among Sweden, in the Sweden Democrat Party, (21:17):
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Hermann Kelly: I know the chairman, I know the president of the party, etc. (21:22):
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Hermann Kelly: And speaking, I went to a few of their events. I was over in Sweden twice. (21:27):
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Hermann Kelly: And I actually did notice that I think in a move, a rejection of very secular (21:32):
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Hermann Kelly: values, liberal, multi-culti, libby-dibby. (21:42):
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Hermann Kelly: Secular values, anti-Christian values, which not only are predominant in Sweden (21:47):
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Hermann Kelly: itself, but also among the state church. (21:52):
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Hermann Kelly: This Sweden, Swedish, I believe it's Lutheran church, it's very, well, it doesn't, (21:55):
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Hermann Kelly: it lacks kind of visible kind of Christian belief, read, what it says, (22:04):
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Hermann Kelly: what it calls its members to uphold. (22:11):
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Hermann Kelly: So actually, I was actually very surprised that a number of Sweden Democrats, (22:17):
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Hermann Kelly: I know Charlie Beamer is the MEP in Brussels as a Catholic and actually goes (22:23):
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Hermann Kelly: to traditional Latin math. (22:28):
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Hermann Kelly: I met other MPs and members of the Sweden Democrats who, the ones who took Christianity (22:30):
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Hermann Kelly: seriously, basically became Catholic because the Swedish church was so Catholic. (22:39):
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Hermann Kelly: Devoid of christian beliefs and and and (22:47):
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Hermann Kelly: practices that they said well if i'm going (22:50):
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Hermann Kelly: to be a christian here i i want to do the real thing not you know that this (22:53):
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Hermann Kelly: kind of whatever you're you're having yourself and actually brings up the thing (22:57):
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Hermann Kelly: actually it's funny because there's a irish uh intellectual des family's dead (23:02):
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Hermann Kelly: there about three years but he wrote a book and i read it when i was oh mostly, (23:08):
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Hermann Kelly: my early 20s. (23:13):
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Hermann Kelly: It was called My Year in Sweden, The Turning Point. (23:14):
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Hermann Kelly: And he actually talked as an Irish Catholic who had traveled extensively around (23:18):
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Hermann Kelly: Europe and around the world. (23:24):
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Hermann Kelly: He basically for him, Sweden, this secular large state control. (23:26):
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Hermann Kelly: Like where God and the power of the church has decreased and the power of the (23:36):
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Hermann Kelly: state could dominate it. (23:45):
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Hermann Kelly: He talked about this very secular society and for myself, and also one where the EU, (23:49):
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Hermann Kelly: where he thought that Sweden, this secular, big, big state society like Sweden (23:57):
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Hermann Kelly: was a prototype of the European Union. (24:04):
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Hermann Kelly: And he believed it was very, very dangerous and actually for myself it was a (24:06):
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Hermann Kelly: turning point in my kind of intellectual journey I suppose. (24:13):
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Hermann Kelly: I was an Irish nationalist before that but after reading a book I was very much (24:17):
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Hermann Kelly: a committed Eurosceptic, (24:21):
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Hermann Kelly: because when you look at the EU itself it's very secularized and secularizing (24:24):
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Hermann Kelly: where for example even in these Nordic countries you have this Swedish Lutheran Church, (24:28):
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Hermann Kelly: you have the various Lutheran churches state churches, Norway Denmark, (24:37):
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Hermann Kelly: In Britain, for example, you have the Church of England, the German Lutheran (24:45):
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Hermann Kelly: Church, and Southern Europe, mainly Catholic churches, etc. (24:50):
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Hermann Kelly: So with the European Union, and the Greek Orthodox Church is a very strong position (24:58):
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Hermann Kelly: in Greek society, with the European Union, the influence of Christian churches (25:04):
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Hermann Kelly: has been dissolved, basically. (25:08):
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Hermann Kelly: And with it, the influence of Christianity on the thought processes of those (25:11):
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Hermann Kelly: who are involved politically. (25:17):
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Hermann Kelly: So, Sweden is an incredibly secular society, and it's good to see that many (25:18):
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Hermann Kelly: young people, or an increasing number of young people, see the difference that Christianity makes. (25:27):
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Hermann Kelly: They reject the secularized culture in which they live, and they're coming towards (25:33):
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Hermann Kelly: a belief in God and in Jesus Christ. (25:38):
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Hermann Kelly: And I believe that's a good thing because, you know what, the things that we're (25:41):
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Hermann Kelly: talking about, we're talking about Islam and stuff, like we are easy meat. (25:44):
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Hermann Kelly: If we cannot say, this is who I am, this is what I believe, I belong here, (25:49):
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Hermann Kelly: this country belongs to us, (25:57):
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Hermann Kelly: and I believe that we are good people, our culture is good, we have something to give the world. (25:58):
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Hermann Kelly: If you don't believe that you're easing me to be taken over if you don't have (26:04):
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Hermann Kelly: the confidence to say that who we are what we believe a culture with a strong (26:11):
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Hermann Kelly: will and a strong series of belief and also. (26:20):
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Hermann Kelly: That's a video and pictures that I put up from that young guy in Sweden he was (26:25):
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Hermann Kelly: proposing in the picture to a young woman to be married. (26:33):
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Hermann Kelly: They will hopefully, please God, have a family, bring them up in the Christian faith. (26:37):
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Hermann Kelly: That demographically is also the future of Europe. (26:43):
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Hermann Kelly: I believe the loss of Christianity has also brought, (26:47):
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Hermann Kelly: about a society with lack of hope, lack of belief, not only in God, but belief in itself. (26:52):
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Hermann Kelly: That God is good, that our society has been graced by faith in Christ, (27:00):
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Hermann Kelly: and our society is better than a secular society or an Islamic society, (27:07):
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Hermann Kelly: and there's a self-confidence, and there's also a hope, a hope in the future, (27:13):
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Hermann Kelly: a world in which we can have children and bring them up in our culture and have a future. (27:18):
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Hermann Kelly: At the minute, they're talking about extending in Britain abortion laws to permit (27:24):
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Hermann Kelly: baby killing up to the point of birth, which is unbelievable, appalling. (27:32):
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Hermann Kelly: And in just France there two weeks ago, I attended an event in the European (27:40):
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Hermann Kelly: Parliament whether they're discussing what was going on in France. (27:47):
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Hermann Kelly: They're looking to introduce euthanasia. (27:51):
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Hermann Kelly: So kill your granny laws in France. (27:53):
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Hermann Kelly: And would you believe, when you go into, they're talking about changing a culture (27:56):
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Hermann Kelly: from a culture of life to a culture of a right to die. (28:00):
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Hermann Kelly: So when you're politically changing, by legal means, changing this culture where (28:05):
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Hermann Kelly: you have a right to die, but now you have a right to die. And basically you're (28:11):
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Hermann Kelly: going and you're telling doctor, doctor, I want to die. (28:16):
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Hermann Kelly: I'm depressed. I want you to kill me. (28:20):
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Hermann Kelly: That doctor then, according to these laws, will have a car who then has a corresponding (28:22):
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Hermann Kelly: duty to kill these people. (28:27):
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Hermann Kelly: And these doctors will be discriminated against and maybe even struck off for (28:29):
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Hermann Kelly: not fulfilling their patient's wishes. (28:34):
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Hermann Kelly: Now that's an incredible thing to go from this Christian based society where (28:36):
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Hermann Kelly: there's a right to life and also the doctors have the Hippocratic oath to do (28:41):
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Hermann Kelly: no harm to like then doctors have a duty to kill people and would you believe the appalling part is. (28:46):
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Hermann Kelly: In this law, you get two days after you've notified the doctor that you want (28:53):
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Hermann Kelly: to die. You've got two days to change your mind. (29:01):
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Hermann Kelly: But hey, if you're buying a pair of runners on Amazon, you've got 14 days to change your mind. (29:03):
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Hermann Kelly: That is the value of human life now, where you get 14 days on Amazon to change (29:09):
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Hermann Kelly: your sneakers, but two days if you only end your life. (29:16):
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Hermann Kelly: And they even have, in Brussels here they even have they allow euthanasia for children. (29:21):
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Hermann Kelly: So children who are old enough to even consent can supposedly have the right (29:29):
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Hermann Kelly: to go in and say to an adult that they want to be killed or to kill themselves. (29:35):
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Hermann Kelly: I believe that that is signs of a culture which really is this culture of death. (29:40):
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Hermann Kelly: These people really do want to get wiped out. (29:46):
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Hearts of Oak: And (29:50):
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Hermann Kelly: Christianity belief in Christ and God is an antidote to this culture of death which has no future. (29:52):
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Hearts of Oak: It is it is the only antidote absolutely can we go something I never thought (30:02):
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Hearts of Oak: I'd be talking about Ballymina on the (30:09):
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Hermann Kelly: Podcast Ballymina hey. (30:12):
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Hearts of Oak: I know you talked about it Here is a picture of what's been happening up there. (30:14):
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Hearts of Oak: And let me see if I can play a little (30:22):
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Hearts of Oak: in my video section. And let me see if I can upload. (30:30):
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Hearts of Oak: Give me one. (30:36):
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Hearts of Oak: And it is, it's this one. (30:39):
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Hearts of Oak: Like back to the bad old days or the days we i used to we used to grew up in (30:56):
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Hearts of Oak: give us a little bit of background this is about um a rip off a girl and the (31:00):
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Hearts of Oak: the frustration and anger uh the people have i don't know if it's been orchestrated (31:07):
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Hearts of Oak: or not you never know whether (31:12):
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Hearts of Oak: it's the paramilitary whipping something up to push violent people. (31:14):
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Hearts of Oak: What's your perception or assessment of what's been happening there and how (31:19):
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Hearts of Oak: this has spilled over into violence? (31:24):
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Hermann Kelly: Actually, it's not just a thing to do with the north of Ireland, (31:27):
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Hermann Kelly: because it's actually very similar episodes have happened in the south in Dublin. (31:30):
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Hermann Kelly: You may remember last November in Dublin, there was riots, (31:35):
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Hermann Kelly: large riots in the centre of Dublin after three children were stabbed by a, (31:40):
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Hermann Kelly: I believe, Algerian migrant in the middle of a street in Dublin. (31:47):
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Hermann Kelly: And people were very angry. (31:52):
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Hermann Kelly: There was riots and jobs were burned and police cars were burned, etc. (31:54):
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Hermann Kelly: In the south, there's a large increasing number of rallies and protests against (32:01):
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Hermann Kelly: immigration centres imposed by the government all around the country. (32:06):
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Hermann Kelly: Now, this has taken off in Ballymena, which is a town, a large town in the northeast (32:12):
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Hermann Kelly: of Ireland and county Antrim. (32:19):
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Hermann Kelly: Predominantly it was kind of I'd say it'd be a unionist Protestant town but there's a good, (32:21):
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Hermann Kelly: I don't know maybe a third cataxe I'm not sure, (32:28):
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Hermann Kelly: Palomena but this all kicked off after two young Romanian speaking boys of 14 (32:32):
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Hermann Kelly: have been charged with sex assault or rape of a young girl, I believe of 13, (32:39):
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Hermann Kelly: in the town and it has basically a flag, (32:45):
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Hermann Kelly: of public resentment or local resentment to what's going on in the fact. (32:51):
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Hermann Kelly: Now, I saw stats there recently, which I found mind-blowing. (32:55):
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Hermann Kelly: I didn't share because I thought, could this be true? (32:58):
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Hermann Kelly: But seemingly, a huge number of migrants have been put into Palomino in the (33:01):
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Hermann Kelly: last few years. I mean, a huge number. (33:07):
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Hermann Kelly: And so many of these housing estates now have over 50 and 60% of the people (33:09):
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Hermann Kelly: in houses are actually non-nationals. (33:16):
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Hermann Kelly: And non they're not they're not locals it's not what they're saying about British (33:18):
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Hermann Kelly: and Irish the best way we can talk about it is they're not local people. (33:25):
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Hearts of Oak: Romanians are not local to Ballymena we can agree (33:31):
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Hermann Kelly: They're not local to Ballymena or the north of Ireland that. (33:33):
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Hermann Kelly: People feel threatened that, as we talked earlier about in a time of limited resources, (33:40):
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Hermann Kelly: that they see the people coming from abroad, especially if they claim that they're (33:46):
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Hermann Kelly: asylum seekers and they're just economic migrants, getting free stuff for nothing. (33:54):
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Hermann Kelly: They're getting free accommodation. (33:59):
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Hermann Kelly: And actually, I was watching GB News. I see there that rents private, (34:01):
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Hermann Kelly: the whole system of private landlords about the state has got private houses (34:06):
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Hermann Kelly: or taken good private houses to put these people in. (34:11):
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Hermann Kelly: These people are living in these estates that's put up the rent for local people. (34:15):
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Hermann Kelly: And so they're thinking, what the hell? I was paying like 800 pounds for rent before. (34:21):
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Hermann Kelly: Now it's almost 2000 pounds per house and I can't do it. (34:27):
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Hermann Kelly: So it is a recipe for resentment. that people feel locally that the areas become (34:30):
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Hermann Kelly: moved from being a safe area to becoming an unsafe area from where it was easy to rent a place. (34:37):
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Hermann Kelly: Now it's very difficult to rent a place or even find a place to stay. (34:45):
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Hermann Kelly: And they're very resentful that their children can't find a house to stay and (34:49):
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Hermann Kelly: they don't want their daughters walking around in fear of being raped or the (34:54):
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Hermann Kelly: young sons being beat up on the street. (35:00):
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Hermann Kelly: Now, actually, it kind of reminds me, there's a town there as you leave County (35:03):
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Hermann Kelly: Armagh and you're just going south as the cabin or Monon, I can't remember, but there's a town. (35:09):
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Hermann Kelly: And actually, there's a huge amount of Roman that has gone into this local town. (35:15):
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Hermann Kelly: I'm not talking about Ballymen at the minute, but I've driven through this place. (35:22):
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Hermann Kelly: Its name just bothered me by at a minute but basically there's a huge amount (35:26):
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Hermann Kelly: of Roma have gone into this town, a very run down town, (35:32):
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Hermann Kelly: a lot of Roma went into it, they were put into it now they've had things a local (35:35):
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Hermann Kelly: person told me that they had a thing for the 12th of July where they were playing (35:40):
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Hermann Kelly: very loud music as they were having the 12th of July, (35:46):
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Hermann Kelly: March going past or whatever and at the same time they also put, (35:49):
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Hermann Kelly: I believe they painted or they had a bit of a bonfire, (35:53):
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Hermann Kelly: at the local GAA pitch just before a final. (35:57):
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Hermann Kelly: So these role members are saying, we're coming in here now, we've got the numbers, (36:01):
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Hermann Kelly: we're the boss here now, we're going to tell you, the Protestants and the Catholics, (36:06):
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Hermann Kelly: there's a new king in town here. (36:12):
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Hermann Kelly: So basically they gave the two fingers to everybody, all the locals, and of course, (36:14):
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Hermann Kelly: when something like that happens, it leads to resentment, it leads to anger, (36:20):
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Hermann Kelly: and it's in a place like Ballymina, the locals, you can see that a number of (36:23):
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Hermann Kelly: houses have been burned, windows have been broken, and there's now a big conflict (36:28):
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Hermann Kelly: between local people and the police. (36:32):
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Hearts of Oak: Well, let's jump down to Cork and look at some of the people coming out, (36:37):
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Hearts of Oak: anger at mass immigration. Here's a clip from War Room, and then we'll do a (36:42):
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Hearts of Oak: clip from Ezra Levant, who seems to get everywhere. (36:46):
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Hearts of Oak: So here's just a clip from War Room for the War Room Posse. (36:49):
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Hermann Kelly: Here in front of the Albert Key building. There's a bunch of Irish pastures (36:52):
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Hermann Kelly: today in glorious Cork, Ireland. (36:56):
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Hermann Kelly: And they're playing a tune right now for all of us in the Posse. (36:59):
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Hermann Kelly: And yeah, it's an amazing day, amazing group of people. (37:02):
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Hermann Kelly: Patriots from all around, young and old, all kinds of families cheering. (37:07):
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Hermann Kelly: And we want Ireland to be Irish. (37:11):
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Hermann Kelly: There's lots of chants of people saying, get them out, get them out, get them out. (37:13):
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Hermann Kelly: But also some things going on here. But Kevin, hang on. (37:18):
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Hermann Kelly: Ireland's been the country that's been the quietest, the most quiet about everything (37:21):
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Hermann Kelly: that's going on on this immigration. (37:28):
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Hermann Kelly: Their politicians are bought and paid for by Brussels. (37:31):
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Hermann Kelly: Is this really an awakening? Are we getting a red-pilled awakening with our (37:34):
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Hermann Kelly: Irish brothers and sisters about the dangers of mass immigration? (37:39):
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Hermann Kelly: I think we are, Steve. I think we are. And this is one of the several protests recently. (37:45):
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Hermann Kelly: There's several demonstrations, and I've been in touch with them. (37:53):
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Hearts of Oak: Well, let me just play this other just 20 seconds from Ezra. Here is Ezra. (37:57):
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Hermann Kelly: Hi everybody, Ezra Levant. I am in the heart of Cork, Ireland's second city. (38:05):
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Hermann Kelly: You can see I am surrounded, absolutely surrounded, by Irish people flying Irish flags. (38:10):
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Hermann Kelly: It's very different to the counter-protest I just left, where you could barely find an Irish flag. (38:17):
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Hermann Kelly: But there were lots of Palestinian flags, transgender flags, (38:23):
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Hermann Kelly: and government labour union flags. (38:26):
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Hermann Kelly: It's an interesting divide. (38:29):
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Hermann Kelly: What sorry thank you and the (38:32):
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Hermann Kelly: police were out in force standing between them this March (38:37):
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Hermann Kelly: is a sequel to the March in Dublin about five weeks ago that drew more than (38:41):
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Hermann Kelly: 50,000 people and I'm not near the front so I'm gonna hold this up high to try (38:47):
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Hermann Kelly: and show you the scale of this. (38:55):
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Hermann Kelly: I don't want to make an estimate because I'm in the middle of the crowd. (39:01):
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Hearts of Oak: Great footage from both Warren and Ezra, but it does mean Steve Bannon's point (39:05):
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Hearts of Oak: that the Irish seem to have been accepting of this, but it seems as though a (39:12):
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Hearts of Oak: point has been reached and frustration is building. (39:16):
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Hermann Kelly: Absolutely. The number of rallies since we had that one in Dublin there in February, (39:21):
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Hermann Kelly: there's been a number of rallies has increased dramatically all around the country (39:28):
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Hermann Kelly: in various towns. all around. (39:35):
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Hermann Kelly: It's pretty spontaneous. It's not that even well-organized. It's just that local (39:39):
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Hermann Kelly: people have come up, oh, there's another asylum seeker. (39:43):
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Hermann Kelly: Let's call them what they are, economic migrants here, just taking advantage of these. (39:49):
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Hermann Kelly: Easy, easy to pull political idiots that they have in Ireland. (39:55):
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Hermann Kelly: Economic migrants coming in looking for free stuff. (40:00):
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Hermann Kelly: And their resentment locally is going up and there's been rallies all over Monaghan (40:03):
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Hermann Kelly: and all over the country. (40:09):
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Hermann Kelly: They've just come up spontaneously and they're getting good crowds. (40:11):
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Hermann Kelly: This idea that Irish people are just going to sit around and let their country (40:15):
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Hermann Kelly: be taken over by people coming in for free stuff is just no, that's coming to an end. (40:20):
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Hermann Kelly: When we started this, the Irish (40:26):
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Hermann Kelly: Freedom Party, we had the first successful rally against immigration. (40:28):
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Hermann Kelly: It was in December 2018, and we had 150 people. (40:34):
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Hermann Kelly: That's all we had. Outside the Dáil, there was a kind of protestable leftist (40:39):
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Hermann Kelly: run by people before puberty, people before profit, as they call themselves. (40:43):
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Hermann Kelly: Outside the Dáil, we had 150. They thought they would show up, (40:48):
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Hermann Kelly: shout us down, chase us off. (40:53):
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Hermann Kelly: We had a successful rally. (40:54):
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Hermann Kelly: We had tripled their number we spoke we then went off people were happy and (40:57):
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Hermann Kelly: after that we had rallies to do with the issue of free speech about the carbon tax etc. (41:05):
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Hermann Kelly: And the whole practice of having rallies on the streets public rallies started to take off. (41:12):
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Hermann Kelly: And that increased a number of years ago there was a lot of rallies about this (41:20):
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Hermann Kelly: immigration issue. And it's kicked off again. (41:26):
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Hermann Kelly: It's kicked off again. There'll be one in Dublin on Sunday the 22nd of June. (41:28):
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Hermann Kelly: And that should be a big, big event. Now, I've spoken at some of these rallies before in Dublin. (41:33):
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Hermann Kelly: Very, very large crowds. And yet the chant was Sinn Féin or traitors is a common one. (41:40):
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Hermann Kelly: What's that one? Get them out. It's good. It has ambiguity about the politicians. (41:48):
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Hermann Kelly: But also many of the freeloaders who come here to abuse our hot vitality in Ireland. (41:57):
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Hermann Kelly: The whole issue of the relationship, Irish politicians are liars, okay? (42:03):
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Hermann Kelly: They're here not to do what's best for Ireland. (42:11):
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Hermann Kelly: They're here as, I don't know, they're here to represent people in Brussels (42:14):
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Hermann Kelly: to us, right? They want to impose this mass immigration. (42:19):
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Hermann Kelly: Now, there was an Irish guy, a dangerous Irish guy called Peter Sutherland. (42:22):
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Hermann Kelly: He's a former Queen of Gail attorney general in Ireland. (42:27):
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Hermann Kelly: He was also an EU commissioner, and he was the guy who was a big noise, (42:31):
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Hermann Kelly: advocating, and a number of years ago in the House of Commons committee, (42:37):
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Hermann Kelly: he talked about the EU needs to break down the homogeneity in nation states (42:42):
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Hermann Kelly: and do it by immigration and multiculturalism. (42:48):
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Hermann Kelly: So they explicitly say they want to destroy the nation state, (42:52):
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Hermann Kelly: and you must do that by mass immigration and destroy the homogeneity of nation states. (42:56):
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Hermann Kelly: That's what they're doing. That's the reason why they're doing it. (43:01):
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Hermann Kelly: And we have to counteract that by helping young families to have children. (43:04):
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Hermann Kelly: That all we are looking for now is Freedom Party is that people have the basics (43:11):
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Hermann Kelly: of every normal country around the world that they have an ability to get an education. (43:16):
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Hermann Kelly: To find a job, to have a house, get married, have a family, bring them up in (43:23):
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Hermann Kelly: their culture, have a future. (43:30):
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Hermann Kelly: We're not looking for bells and whistles and free dessert after every meal. (43:32):
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Hermann Kelly: We're just looking for the very basics of a successful functioning country. (43:39):
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Hermann Kelly: That's all we're looking for. (43:43):
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Hermann Kelly: And we're not going to have that while we are members of the EU and our country (43:44):
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Hermann Kelly: is getting floated by EU open borders. (43:49):
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Hermann Kelly: Another aspect, actually, Ireland has control over the number of non-EU work permits. (43:52):
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Hermann Kelly: Now, the country the size of America gives out 65,000 work permits, (43:58):
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Hermann Kelly: whereas a country like Ireland, with a country of just over population over (44:04):
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Hermann Kelly: 5 million, In the south, we give out 40,000 work permits. (44:07):
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Hermann Kelly: And attached to those, for 20,000 of them, we have a full family reunification for the first 20,000. (44:13):
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Hermann Kelly: Now, that is just ridiculous. And we can see where... (44:21):
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Hermann Kelly: Whole housing estates at the minute are being bought off by Indian nationals all around Ireland. (44:25):
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Hermann Kelly: And you know what? That's just a recipe for resentment. (44:31):
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Hermann Kelly: These people coming in, they have money from somewhere, and they're buying up (44:34):
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Hermann Kelly: properties where Irish people can't afford them. (44:38):
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Hermann Kelly: That is the death of a nation and the death of a nation state. (44:41):
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Hermann Kelly: And our thing is to come back about the regrowth of a nation and the regrowth (44:45):
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Hermann Kelly: of the comeback of the nation state. (44:51):
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Hearts of Oak: Let's put two stories together and finish off with lois (44:55):
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Hearts of Oak: mcclatchy miller and billboard chris being arrested um over (44:58):
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Hearts of Oak: there in brussels but first let me bring up this uh two let me put these two (45:01):
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Hearts of Oak: together uh they they kind of fit that you'd posted this uh which of the following (45:06):
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Hearts of Oak: issues should be the two most important priorities to deal with in ireland and (45:13):
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Hearts of Oak: housing is there a 62 22%, huge housing crisis, (45:16):
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Hearts of Oak: immigration 28%, cost of living 25%, and the economic issues are much lower, (45:20):
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Hearts of Oak: and the health issues are much lower. (45:28):
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Hearts of Oak: There is that, and then let me just bring up another one, which shows the changes, (45:30):
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Hearts of Oak: And this is, so Garda eligibility criteria for those not from Ireland, (45:37):
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Hearts of Oak: and the Garda being the police force in Ireland. (45:45):
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Hearts of Oak: You have to be a national or of a European Union member state or be a national (45:48):
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Hearts of Oak: of European Economic Area. (45:53):
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Hearts of Oak: Or you can be a refugee or a person granted subsidiary protection. (45:55):
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Hearts of Oak: So you can come over in a boat and you can join the Garda. (45:59):
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Hearts of Oak: That kind of concerns me. But yeah, those pressures, it's about housing, (46:03):
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Hearts of Oak: immigration, but then the police force. (46:07):
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Hearts of Oak: What on earth has happened if you can come over on a dinghy and actually probably (46:10):
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Hearts of Oak: join the Garda? Who knows if you can speak English or anything or what your (46:13):
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Hearts of Oak: background is, but why would you be calling for refugees to join your police force? Bonkers. (46:16):
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Hermann Kelly: It's incredible, isn't it? It's absolute madness. Actually, not only are they (46:25):
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Hermann Kelly: allowed to join the police force, they're also allowed to join the Irish army. (46:29):
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Hermann Kelly: So you can come into a situation where foreigners are allowed to walk around (46:32):
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Hermann Kelly: our country with guns telling natives what to do. It's just madness. (46:39):
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Hermann Kelly: And the whole thing about why is housing and immigration the biggest issues? (46:43):
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Hermann Kelly: Because if you increase the number, if you have large-scale immigration and (46:48):
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Hermann Kelly: you have increased numbers of people in the country, increased demand for housing, (46:53):
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Hermann Kelly: and in normal economics, supply and demand, (46:58):
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Hermann Kelly: when demand goes up, prices go up, and normal people find it difficult to buy a house. (47:02):
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Hermann Kelly: And that's why many, many young, talented, well-educated Irish people are being (47:09):
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Hermann Kelly: forced to emigrate to countries like Australia and Canada. (47:14):
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Hermann Kelly: And so we are being demographically replaced in our own country And the most (47:17):
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Hermann Kelly: capable people, young, well-educated people are leaving for foreign shores. (47:22):
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Hermann Kelly: Now, that is, that cannot continue. (47:26):
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Hearts of Oak: Oh, exactly. (47:29):
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Hermann Kelly: Our position is we would like to. (47:31):
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Hearts of Oak: No, no, go for it. Your position. (47:35):
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Hermann Kelly: Not only do we want to stop the mass immigration into Ireland, (47:39):
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Hermann Kelly: we want to make sure that those young people in Ireland who are well-educated (47:44):
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Hermann Kelly: have some to contribute, can stay in Ireland, can get a house, can see a future. (47:49):
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Hermann Kelly: And also, if we need more workers for the economy, whatever, (47:54):
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Hermann Kelly: well, we've got millions of well-educated, experienced people all across the (48:00):
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Hermann Kelly: world who are Irish, in Canada, in Britain, in America, etc., (48:06):
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Hermann Kelly: who are well-able and willing to come back if they had an opportunity. (48:10):
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Hermann Kelly: And so we most give opportunities to our young people to see a future in Ireland. (48:13):
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Hearts of Oak: I think that's why the Irish Freedom Party does seem to be the only party of common sense. (48:20):
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Hearts of Oak: Down there in the republic um let (48:24):
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Hearts of Oak: me play this little clip just to finish off and um we're uh we're really out (48:27):
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Hearts of Oak: of time but just good to refer to it uh obviously it happened over in brussels (48:32):
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Hearts of Oak: and i we've had lewis and billboard chris on many times um here's a clip of (48:36):
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Hearts of Oak: them getting arrested for saying that men are men and women are women and children (48:41):
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Hearts of Oak: cannot consent to puberty blockers. (48:45):
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Hermann Kelly: I'll let you do the choice. I'll let you do the choice right now. (48:47):
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Hermann Kelly: Either you take your silence and it's okay. Or either you guys are. (48:50):
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Hearts of Oak: Going to the (48:55):
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Hermann Kelly: Push station. Stay on you! Stay on you! Stay on you! Stay on you! (48:56):
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Hermann Kelly: Stay on you! (49:03):
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Hermann Kelly: Stay on you! Two of these men came and threatened and abused me. (49:06):
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Hermann Kelly: I wasn't there at that moment. I have a whole camera actually. (49:09):
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Hermann Kelly: I called you guys. Yeah, but it's because you guys are... just (49:13):
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Hermann Kelly: right here so but we're allowed to my (49:16):
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Hermann Kelly: point of view to my point of view the trouble cause is caused by you guys being (49:19):
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Hermann Kelly: in this place being in here with a state of okay i let you the choices it's (49:23):
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Hermann Kelly: no up to you all right i'm happy to go to the police station then okay i'm gonna (49:27):
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Hermann Kelly: stand up for my rights and i'm gonna stand up for the kids that are being harmed (49:32):
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Hermann Kelly: okay you're going to the police station all right, (49:34):
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Hermann Kelly: And. (49:41):
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Hearts of Oak: Then they get arrested and are let (49:41):
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Hearts of Oak: out. It's common sense. Children cannot consent to people who blockers. (49:43):
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Hermann Kelly: Children, they're children. (49:48):
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Hearts of Oak: And yet having that sign, they're the ones causing the trouble and not those (49:50):
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Hearts of Oak: who are abusing and attacking them. And in the centre of Europe and Brussels. (49:55):
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Hermann Kelly: Absolutely. I actually met Lois and Chris there last week in Wednesday in the (50:00):
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Hermann Kelly: European Parliament, I introduced them to my ME feed, Anders Vistesen. (50:06):
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Hermann Kelly: They make a common sense argument that children are too young to consent to (50:11):
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Hermann Kelly: a life-changing decision such as that. And like. (50:16):
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Hermann Kelly: And Chris told me that Brussels was the worst city he's ever been in for reception, (50:23):
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Hermann Kelly: that there was threats of violence, people throwing bottles at him, (50:31):
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Hermann Kelly: there was threats of violence. (50:35):
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Hermann Kelly: And in that clip there, what happened was a group of 20 people came, (50:36):
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Hermann Kelly: all these leftists came threatening violence. (50:39):
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Hermann Kelly: The police were called. And instead of lifting, all they were doing was having (50:43):
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Hermann Kelly: billboards up with a very simple message, having peaceful conversations with people who went past. (50:47):
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Hermann Kelly: And the police, instead of lifting the mob of thugs who were threatening violence, (50:53):
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Hermann Kelly: lifted these two people, took them to a police station, stripped them off their (50:58):
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Hermann Kelly: clothes, threatened them with charges, and eventually they were released. (51:02):
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Hermann Kelly: The good thing is that this issue has now become a big issue in the States, (51:06):
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Hermann Kelly: and they were invited over to the White House to explain exactly what happened. (51:11):
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Hermann Kelly: And the thing is, this trans ideology, this trans, like this, this common, (51:16):
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Hermann Kelly: this alliance between the far left and Islam and all this trans ideology, (51:23):
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Hermann Kelly: it's all part of the cultural Marxist agenda, destroy the nation state, (51:31):
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Hermann Kelly: destroy the family, and even the distinction between male and female. (51:36):
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Hermann Kelly: And that's why we must do the counter and stand up for a belief in biology, not ideology. (51:39):
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Hermann Kelly: Stand up for the distinction and the complementarity between male and female (51:46):
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Hermann Kelly: as a foundation of family life and a civilization. (51:52):
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Hermann Kelly: That's what we're talking about at the minute. The. (51:57):
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