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Hearts of Oak:
And hello, Hearts of Ooc. Thanks so much for joining us once again, (00:23):
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as great to have Herman Kelly joining us from the Irish Freedom Party to give (00:26):
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us his thoughts on what's happened this week with an Irish flavour. (00:31):
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Hearts of Oak:
Herman, thanks as always for joining us. (00:36):
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Hermann Kelly:
Oh, thank you, Peter. It's always great to see you. Great. (00:38):
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Hearts of Oak:
And I see the, I don't know if there's an advert for Guinness behind you, but I see the harp there. (00:41):
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Hermann Kelly:
Irish harp, yeah. It's a very ancient, a very beautiful instrument and a very (00:47):
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ancient symbol of Ireland. (00:53):
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Actually, it's funny that a lot of people across Europe, they knew of Ireland (00:55):
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because of harp playing, (01:01):
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the beauty of harp playing, and also the ancient myths of Asin and Tain and (01:02):
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Old and something, Ferdi and stuff like Dermot and Ferdi and all these ancient (01:06):
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myths that the French used to talk about in the 18th century. (01:11):
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It's quite, yeah, I don't drink at all, actually. I don't like drinking Guinness. (01:15):
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I don't drink a pack of... You know what? (01:22):
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The thing about the Irish Freedom Party, it's also not just about your country free of EU control. (01:25):
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It's not in favor of Irish centralization around Dublin. (01:32):
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It's about personal freedom and also an aspect which is often overlooked is (01:37):
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that freedom from addiction, freedom from being dependent on a need for something (01:43):
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and that includes being i'm a free man, (01:49):
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part of that is being free of addiction to things that you (01:52):
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may need or be addicted to so i i one (01:55):
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of my children had a bit of trouble i thought the least thing i (02:00):
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can be as a father is a good example so over (02:03):
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three and a half years ago i stopped smoking and drinking overnight purely (02:06):
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to be a good example to my children and you know what i know (02:10):
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you're not supposed to say this but i found it very very (02:13):
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easy i tried to give up smoking before and it was very (02:15):
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difficult but just when i had my mind made (02:18):
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up by an act of the will i can improve my (02:21):
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life i want to show this to my children and you know what a friend of mine to (02:24):
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the neighbor uh and murphy he said to me if you don't want to smoke just don't (02:29):
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let a cigarette touch your lips right it's that simple it is that simple just (02:34):
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don't allow a cigarette to touch your lips and i've never had a cigarette since. (02:38):
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Hearts of Oak:
Well it is about that personal responsibility and sadly we live in an age where (02:42):
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nothing's our fault it's all society's fault or gene's fault but um yeah that (02:47):
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shows you can actually make your own choices (02:53):
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Hermann Kelly:
Well just let me go a bit further on this actually i like there was a a man (02:55):
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actually a priest involved a very big player in irish history at the end of (03:02):
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the 19th century father murphy and his big thing is ireland sober is Ireland free. (03:07):
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Now, at the minute, our country is being overrun by mass immigration. (03:13):
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We have very little democratic power left in Ireland even in the, (03:17):
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in the Dáil. So much of this power has been gone off the supernational organizations (03:23):
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such as the EU, the UN, the World Health Organization, etc. (03:28):
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And huge demographic change is taking place in Ireland. Cultural change is taking place. (03:34):
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Almost a quarter of people living in Ireland at the minute are non-Iwish. (03:41):
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This change has happened over a very, very short period of time, (03:45):
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where in Britain it went over many decades. (03:49):
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And Ireland virtually happened since 2004 at the latest. (03:52):
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And so many men seem to be asleep at the wheel, oh, just doing nothing. (03:57):
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One big part of the problem is actually Ireland has the third biggest cocaine (04:02):
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consumption per capita in the world. And it's been at that for the last five years. (04:10):
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So the problem is people are rather off their heads on cocaine, (04:15):
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on alcohol and now in our big thing is social media and porn for men, (04:20):
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addiction to porn and stuff like that there, (04:28):
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so I think it's very very important to emphasize the whole aspect of free people in a free country, (04:30):
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but that comes from a healthy mind and a healthy body and to keep away from (04:39):
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things that are addictive and that means drink, cigarettes, alcohol, (04:44):
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pornography, things like that. (04:49):
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To be free is to be free of these addictions and free from dependency on something that you need. (04:51):
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So I emphasize not just a political project, but it's also culturally and it's also political. (04:58):
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Personal, to free people in a free country and a healthy mind and a healthy body. (05:06):
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These things are very closely tied together. (05:12):
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And sadly, there's too many men who are asleep at the wheel because they're (05:14):
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off their heads on various addicted dependency and various things. (05:18):
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Hearts of Oak:
You're 100%. Now, we'll get into the immigration side. (05:23):
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But if I could start with something which is quite different, and none of us, (05:27):
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neither herman nor myself are necessarily (05:33):
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iran or israel experts but it (05:37):
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is this breaking news that i wanted to (05:40):
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first touch on and this is israel targets iran's nuclear (05:43):
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sites and military commanders in major attacks and this is the the bbc's this (05:46):
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mornings just before we record this on friday morning so a day before it goes (05:52):
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out we may not be here on saturday evening by the time this goes So who knows? (05:58):
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But it says Israel's military says Iran has fired about 100 drones towards its (06:03):
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territory after Israel launched a major attack on Iran overnight. (06:07):
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The IDF said it carried out strikes on nuclear sites. (06:12):
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I think there were 200 aircraft that were involved. (06:16):
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Israel declared a state of emergency and I saw pictures from Iran with the red (06:21):
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flags being raised on mosques which meant that it was a state of war Now, (06:26):
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So what are your thoughts? (06:34):
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Hearts of Oak:
Obviously we heard the last few days America pulling out some of its diplomatic (06:36):
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people from parts of the Middle East and the thought was, (06:40):
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well, this is now building up to an attack And it happened as we were fast asleep (06:46):
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when we've woken up to this. (06:52):
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But yeah, Herman, neither has been experts, but obviously this is an issue of concern for all of us. (06:55):
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Hermann Kelly:
Yeah, because there will be retaliation. It could lead. We don't know what it will lead to. (07:03):
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I presume it will be a military escalation from Iran. (07:10):
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I understand there's 100 drones flying from Iran towards Israel at the moment. (07:14):
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You've got to say, I used to say you have a friend on the hurting team. (07:21):
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I used to talk about getting your retaliation in first before they hit you, you hit them. (07:24):
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And before the match would start and the whistle would be blown, (07:29):
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he would go and he would ram the butt of the hurting stick through the guy's face. (07:33):
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This is what he called getting your retaliation in first. (07:37):
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And seemingly this is what Israel have gone for after fear of Iran coming up (07:40):
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with nuclear weapons, which obviously is very dangerous and existentially dangerous for Israel. (07:45):
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Any Islamic regime, I believe, is dangerous to the whole world. (07:54):
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I believe Islamic Jihad and demographic overplay all across Europe is very, (08:00):
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very dangerous globally. (08:12):
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This Churchill used to say Islam in a man is like rabies in a dog and certainly (08:14):
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the ideology of political Islam this will to dominate and subjugate or annihilate (08:21):
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is incredibly dangerous. (08:29):
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I think people are very naive their knowledge of history over the last 1300 (08:31):
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years about the impact and the history and the interaction of Islamic people (08:37):
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and cultures with non-Islamic cultures is always basically one of. (08:45):
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Throughout a lot of history has been one of violence. (08:51):
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They have violence with every culture with which they come into contact. (08:55):
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We are incredibly naive to just sit back and allow it to roll on and even in (09:00):
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America and all across Europe, (09:09):
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demographically there's about 5 million Muslims in France, in Germany, (09:12):
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a very high percentage in Sweden. (09:17):
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All the these cultures, these people from this culture, I believe is incompatible with European culture. (09:20):
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They mean, they tell you explicitly, I would say the Quran is like a proto-terrorism (09:29):
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manual, but it instructs the believers in Muhammad to go out and to, (09:35):
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dominate and subjugate non-Muslim believers, and they don't do that to annihilate them. By, (09:44):
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clearly says in the Quran about behead non-believers. (09:51):
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And it's very, very dangerous, and the people better wake up, (09:56):
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and through legal means, financial means, whatever means possible, (10:00):
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we must do everything possible to stop the growth of Islamic jihad all across the world. (10:04):
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It is extremely dangerous and one of the large existential threats to European civilization. It is. (10:10):
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Hearts of Oak:
And of course, the Islamic Revolution, Iran from 79, Iran was very different (10:20):
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before, fairly secular, and that's changed. This is a big story. (10:23):
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Hearts of Oak:
Sorry, 200 aircraft were involved. I said 100. It's a huge operation. (10:29):
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They said they expect more strikes. (10:32):
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Hearts of Oak:
I don't know. I saw the head of the International Agency on Atomic Stuff, the IA, I think it is. (10:35):
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But they said the comment was, the phrase was, it's not a good idea to attack nuclear facilities. (10:44):
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Hearts of Oak:
I thought that was fairly common sense. That's my concern, that actually one (10:51):
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of these missiles that Israel fires, Target 1 area, actually goes in a slightly (10:55):
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different direction, hits a nuclear facility. (11:01):
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So that's the big concern. We really are playing with fire in this. (11:04):
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But I agree with you completely that that push on Islam to dominate all across (11:08):
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the Middle East is hugely concerning. (11:13):
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Israel is the only kind of common sense democracy in the middle of that. (11:15):
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Even when you look at the history, like the demographic changes in Palestine, Lebanon. (11:22):
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Lebanon in the 1970s was a majority Christian country. (11:31):
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Now they're almost being, I wouldn't say wiped out, but they're now a small (11:36):
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and decreasing minority in their own country. (11:41):
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They give refuge to many people, Muslims from various countries and conflicts. (11:44):
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They came into the country and basically Muslims took over when they got the (11:50):
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chance, first demographically and then politically and now militarily. (11:53):
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And Christians are treated like dogs in their own country. (11:58):
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So we shouldn't be naive to the threat that political Islam presents to the (12:01):
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world and we really do have to be cognizant of it and we've got to decide are (12:06):
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we just going to sit here and get taken over or are we going to do something (12:11):
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about it? So the whole thing like, (12:15):
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Make things uncomfortable culturally, and that would include, (12:18):
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no, you can't have your poor wives if you come into Ireland. (12:21):
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You can't have your halal food. (12:24):
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You can't have your interest-free loan, like your Islamic banking in Ireland. (12:27):
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This is when in Rome do the Romans do. This is our country. This is our culture. (12:34):
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You want to come in here. This is what you do. (12:38):
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And the thing is, they present a large danger. What great benefit do they give (12:42):
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that we can't get from other people from cultures which are compatible with European culture? (12:47):
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And also, Islamic jihad presents a real danger, and we've got to do something (12:55):
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about it. And actually, I'm actually disgusted as an Irish person looking across at Britain. (13:00):
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When I see the videos of all stream of Islamic Muslim mayors in British towns, (13:06):
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and they're all there, they're speaking Arabic, and they have their flags of Pakistan, (13:16):
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flags of Morocco, and all this, I'm absolutely disgusted, and I'm appalled to see that. (13:21):
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And it's a real wake-up call to people all across Europe. (13:27):
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I know here in Brussels, for example, there was an Islamic party. (13:32):
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Let me give you a few statistics. (13:37):
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We looked up there, and you can double-check it on the internet, (13:40):
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that in Brussels, 80% of young people under 18 have a migrant background. (13:44):
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80 percent and 42 percent (13:52):
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of young people under 18 in brussels have at (13:56):
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least one parent of an african background so that (13:59):
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is absolutely that's demographic change at warp speed and if brussels is the (14:03):
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political capital of europe well if if this is the road which europe intends (14:09):
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to take it's incredibly bad for the rest of Europe, (14:16):
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but this political capital is also going to be the cultural capital because (14:20):
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they actually have the argument, yeah, yeah, yeah, (14:24):
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there's conflict between the French speakers and the Flemish speakers, (14:27):
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and Brussels, no, no, no, walking around town, you will hear more than nothing, (14:31):
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any other language you will hear Arabic, and that is, (14:36):
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well, that puts you on alert. (14:42):
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It should wake people up to the demographic threat that Islam presents in Europe. (14:45):
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Hearts of Oak:
Well, let's look at some of the demographic changes. Let's actually, (14:53):
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this is a story about the UK, and then we'll jump across the water into Ireland. (14:56):
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But here is a piece written by The Telegraph, and it is Annabelle Denham. (15:02):
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I didn't think we were heading for civil war. Now I'm not so sure. (15:10):
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We are not there yet, but uncontrolled immigration means our nation's cohesion is fraying fast. (15:14):
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And she writes a great piece to say that she used to dismiss fears. (15:20):
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Britain was headed for open sectarian conflict, possible civil war. (15:25):
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But she says, now, however, I'm not so sure. (15:30):
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The law-abiding majority are nearing the end of their tether. (15:32):
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They cannot tolerate the sheer lawlessness they've seen. And it's a great, I think, (15:35):
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snapshot of where many law-abiding Brits feel they are, and they feel powerless (15:40):
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to these changes they are seeing in their communities. (15:48):
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When you look, as I just mentioned earlier there, about the videos of the Muslim (15:55):
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mayors throughout many British towns and cities, it is incredible. (16:00):
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If you look at the demographics, the number of Muslims in Britain has swollen (16:07):
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dramatically over the last number of decades. (16:14):
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I don't think that I, I don't see anywhere that the people in Britain were ever consulted, (16:16):
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were ever given their consent to that their streets and their cities be culturally (16:22):
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changed, that they have to get rid of Christmas trees. (16:28):
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They have to stop talking about Christmas holidays. (16:32):
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They, you know, every symbol of unity in this culture, which is a bit like Christian (16:37):
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culture, is to be silenced, is to be hidden, be covered up. (16:46):
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And in its place, you have this so-called multicultural society, (16:51):
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the problem with multicultural societies, and this was admitted by all the political (16:56):
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leaders 15 years ago, by Angela Merkel, (17:00):
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David Cameron, Sarkozy. (17:06):
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They all said this multicultural experiment has failed. (17:08):
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Why does multiculturalism fail? Because it leads to a low trust, (17:13):
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high friction society where there's a breakdown in social cohesion. (17:20):
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Let's look at it very simply. Why should I get up in the morning to go to work to pay taxes, (17:26):
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to provide free stuff, free housing, free welfare, free accommodation, (17:33):
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health care, education, roads, (17:40):
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for a guy who lives in the road from Afghanistan or Somalia. (17:43):
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Or I don't know how to pronounce his name. I don't know. He doesn't know how to speak my language. (17:49):
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We have a completely different religion. (17:56):
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We have no common history. (18:00):
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There's nothing that I have in common with this guy, why should I go out to (18:03):
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work and pay taxes to provide free stuff to a guy from a completely and utterly (18:08):
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different culture actually this is where the left, (18:14):
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mass immigration, the left should really understand that mass immigration is (18:17):
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undermining and putting the throat of the foundation of the welfare state because it's, (18:23):
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Commonality, it's a sense of solidarity, (18:32):
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of communal solidarity and cultural solidarity is the foundation of the welfare (18:34):
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state that people are willing to go to work to pay taxes, (18:41):
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provide for people who fall in hard times, they get sick, they lose a job, etc. (18:44):
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Yeah, but they're willing to do that for people with whom they have a lot in (18:50):
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common, the same nationality, the same culture. (18:56):
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They're not going to go and do that for people with whom they have absolutely nothing in common. (19:02):
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And especially when that culture and these individuals are coming threatening (19:07):
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that you must drop all the symbols of your culture and you must take up my culture. (19:12):
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That is just, no, that's a recipe for resentment. (19:18):
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And ultimately, as you referenced there in that article, eventually it could (19:22):
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be a recipe for conflict. (19:27):
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Because when there is a competition for limited resources, (19:28):
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and for political power, it is very likely that eventually these fights politically (19:35):
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could lead to greater conflict, like, you know, (19:42):
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Exactly. (19:47):
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Hearts of Oak:
Well, I want to jump over into Ireland and what's happening there. (19:48):
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But here was a really interesting, I think you'd reposted it, (19:54):
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and it's something slightly different and a positive story about the church in Europe. (19:59):
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And we've seen, I know from Ireland, we've seen the collapse of a belief in (20:05):
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the Irish state and the importance of Irishness and the role of the church. (20:12):
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We've seen the biggest collapsing anywhere in Europe just over a generation. But here was a post. (20:18):
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The leader of the Swedish group who brought a record number of young Swedes, (20:24):
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including former atheists, to the Chardis Catholic pilgrimage, (20:28):
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told me that great things are happening in secular Sweden. (20:31):
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His video proposing to a fellow pilgrim has gone viral on social media. (20:35):
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And he talks about many, many converts in Sweden and says, if even Swedes can (20:39):
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convert to Christ, then anyone can. (20:46):
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God is good. That's a good story. (20:48):
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And kind of, I think. (20:51):
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In the wilderness that Europe finds itself, not having an anchor off right and (20:52):
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wrong with the collapse of the church. (20:58):
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I just found this really interesting as I was scrolling through your feed to (20:59):
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see, actually, this is a positive story about people returning to something which is good in Sweden. (21:05):
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Hermann Kelly:
Yeah, absolutely. I've been to Sweden a few times. (21:12):
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And actually, I noted among Sweden, in the Sweden Democrat Party, (21:17):
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I know the chairman, I know the president of the party, etc. (21:22):
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And speaking, I went to a few of their events. I was over in Sweden twice. (21:27):
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And I actually did notice that I think in a move, a rejection of very secular (21:32):
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values, liberal, multi-culti, libby-dibby. (21:42):
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Secular values, anti-Christian values, which not only are predominant in Sweden (21:47):
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itself, but also among the state church. (21:52):
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This Sweden, Swedish, I believe it's Lutheran church, it's very, well, it doesn't, (21:55):
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it lacks kind of visible kind of Christian belief, read, what it says, (22:04):
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what it calls its members to uphold. (22:11):
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So actually, I was actually very surprised that a number of Sweden Democrats, (22:17):
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I know Charlie Beamer is the MEP in Brussels as a Catholic and actually goes (22:23):
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to traditional Latin math. (22:28):
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I met other MPs and members of the Sweden Democrats who, the ones who took Christianity (22:30):
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seriously, basically became Catholic because the Swedish church was so Catholic. (22:39):
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Devoid of christian beliefs and and and (22:47):
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practices that they said well if i'm going (22:50):
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to be a christian here i i want to do the real thing not you know that this (22:53):
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kind of whatever you're you're having yourself and actually brings up the thing (22:57):
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actually it's funny because there's a irish uh intellectual des family's dead (23:02):
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there about three years but he wrote a book and i read it when i was oh mostly, (23:08):
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my early 20s. (23:13):
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It was called My Year in Sweden, The Turning Point. (23:14):
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And he actually talked as an Irish Catholic who had traveled extensively around (23:18):
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Europe and around the world. (23:24):
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He basically for him, Sweden, this secular large state control. (23:26):
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Like where God and the power of the church has decreased and the power of the (23:36):
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state could dominate it. (23:45):
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He talked about this very secular society and for myself, and also one where the EU, (23:49):
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where he thought that Sweden, this secular, big, big state society like Sweden (23:57):
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was a prototype of the European Union. (24:04):
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And he believed it was very, very dangerous and actually for myself it was a (24:06):
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turning point in my kind of intellectual journey I suppose. (24:13):
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I was an Irish nationalist before that but after reading a book I was very much (24:17):
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a committed Eurosceptic, (24:21):
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because when you look at the EU itself it's very secularized and secularizing (24:24):
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where for example even in these Nordic countries you have this Swedish Lutheran Church, (24:28):
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you have the various Lutheran churches state churches, Norway Denmark, (24:37):
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In Britain, for example, you have the Church of England, the German Lutheran (24:45):
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Church, and Southern Europe, mainly Catholic churches, etc. (24:50):
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So with the European Union, and the Greek Orthodox Church is a very strong position (24:58):
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in Greek society, with the European Union, the influence of Christian churches (25:04):
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has been dissolved, basically. (25:08):
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And with it, the influence of Christianity on the thought processes of those (25:11):
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who are involved politically. (25:17):
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So, Sweden is an incredibly secular society, and it's good to see that many (25:18):
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young people, or an increasing number of young people, see the difference that Christianity makes. (25:27):
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They reject the secularized culture in which they live, and they're coming towards (25:33):
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a belief in God and in Jesus Christ. (25:38):
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And I believe that's a good thing because, you know what, the things that we're (25:41):
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talking about, we're talking about Islam and stuff, like we are easy meat. (25:44):
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If we cannot say, this is who I am, this is what I believe, I belong here, (25:49):
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this country belongs to us, (25:57):
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and I believe that we are good people, our culture is good, we have something to give the world. (25:58):
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If you don't believe that you're easing me to be taken over if you don't have (26:04):
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the confidence to say that who we are what we believe a culture with a strong (26:11):
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will and a strong series of belief and also. (26:20):
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That's a video and pictures that I put up from that young guy in Sweden he was (26:25):
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proposing in the picture to a young woman to be married. (26:33):
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They will hopefully, please God, have a family, bring them up in the Christian faith. (26:37):
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That demographically is also the future of Europe. (26:43):
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I believe the loss of Christianity has also brought, (26:47):
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about a society with lack of hope, lack of belief, not only in God, but belief in itself. (26:52):
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That God is good, that our society has been graced by faith in Christ, (27:00):
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and our society is better than a secular society or an Islamic society, (27:07):
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and there's a self-confidence, and there's also a hope, a hope in the future, (27:13):
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a world in which we can have children and bring them up in our culture and have a future. (27:18):
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At the minute, they're talking about extending in Britain abortion laws to permit (27:24):
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baby killing up to the point of birth, which is unbelievable, appalling. (27:32):
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And in just France there two weeks ago, I attended an event in the European (27:40):
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Parliament whether they're discussing what was going on in France. (27:47):
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They're looking to introduce euthanasia. (27:51):
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So kill your granny laws in France. (27:53):
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And would you believe, when you go into, they're talking about changing a culture (27:56):
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from a culture of life to a culture of a right to die. (28:00):
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So when you're politically changing, by legal means, changing this culture where (28:05):
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you have a right to die, but now you have a right to die. And basically you're (28:11):
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going and you're telling doctor, doctor, I want to die. (28:16):
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I'm depressed. I want you to kill me. (28:20):
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That doctor then, according to these laws, will have a car who then has a corresponding (28:22):
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duty to kill these people. (28:27):
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And these doctors will be discriminated against and maybe even struck off for (28:29):
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not fulfilling their patient's wishes. (28:34):
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Now that's an incredible thing to go from this Christian based society where (28:36):
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there's a right to life and also the doctors have the Hippocratic oath to do (28:41):
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no harm to like then doctors have a duty to kill people and would you believe the appalling part is. (28:46):
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In this law, you get two days after you've notified the doctor that you want (28:53):
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to die. You've got two days to change your mind. (29:01):
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But hey, if you're buying a pair of runners on Amazon, you've got 14 days to change your mind. (29:03):
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That is the value of human life now, where you get 14 days on Amazon to change (29:09):
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your sneakers, but two days if you only end your life. (29:16):
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And they even have, in Brussels here they even have they allow euthanasia for children. (29:21):
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So children who are old enough to even consent can supposedly have the right (29:29):
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to go in and say to an adult that they want to be killed or to kill themselves. (29:35):
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I believe that that is signs of a culture which really is this culture of death. (29:40):
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These people really do want to get wiped out. (29:46):
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And (29:50):
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Christianity belief in Christ and God is an antidote to this culture of death which has no future. (29:52):
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It is it is the only antidote absolutely can we go something I never thought (30:02):
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I'd be talking about Ballymina on the (30:09):
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Podcast Ballymina hey. (30:12):
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I know you talked about it Here is a picture of what's been happening up there. (30:14):
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And let me see if I can play a little (30:22):
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in my video section. And let me see if I can upload. (30:30):
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Give me one. (30:36):
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And it is, it's this one. (30:39):
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Like back to the bad old days or the days we i used to we used to grew up in (30:56):
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Hearts of Oak:
give us a little bit of background this is about um a rip off a girl and the (31:00):
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the frustration and anger uh the people have i don't know if it's been orchestrated (31:07):
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or not you never know whether (31:12):
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it's the paramilitary whipping something up to push violent people. (31:14):
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What's your perception or assessment of what's been happening there and how (31:19):
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this has spilled over into violence? (31:24):
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Hermann Kelly:
Actually, it's not just a thing to do with the north of Ireland, (31:27):
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because it's actually very similar episodes have happened in the south in Dublin. (31:30):
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You may remember last November in Dublin, there was riots, (31:35):
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large riots in the centre of Dublin after three children were stabbed by a, (31:40):
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I believe, Algerian migrant in the middle of a street in Dublin. (31:47):
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And people were very angry. (31:52):
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There was riots and jobs were burned and police cars were burned, etc. (31:54):
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In the south, there's a large increasing number of rallies and protests against (32:01):
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immigration centres imposed by the government all around the country. (32:06):
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Now, this has taken off in Ballymena, which is a town, a large town in the northeast (32:12):
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of Ireland and county Antrim. (32:19):
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Predominantly it was kind of I'd say it'd be a unionist Protestant town but there's a good, (32:21):
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I don't know maybe a third cataxe I'm not sure, (32:28):
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Palomena but this all kicked off after two young Romanian speaking boys of 14 (32:32):
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have been charged with sex assault or rape of a young girl, I believe of 13, (32:39):
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in the town and it has basically a flag, (32:45):
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of public resentment or local resentment to what's going on in the fact. (32:51):
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Now, I saw stats there recently, which I found mind-blowing. (32:55):
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I didn't share because I thought, could this be true? (32:58):
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But seemingly, a huge number of migrants have been put into Palomino in the (33:01):
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last few years. I mean, a huge number. (33:07):
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And so many of these housing estates now have over 50 and 60% of the people (33:09):
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in houses are actually non-nationals. (33:16):
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And non they're not they're not locals it's not what they're saying about British (33:18):
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and Irish the best way we can talk about it is they're not local people. (33:25):
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Romanians are not local to Ballymena we can agree (33:31):
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They're not local to Ballymena or the north of Ireland that. (33:33):
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People feel threatened that, as we talked earlier about in a time of limited resources, (33:40):
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that they see the people coming from abroad, especially if they claim that they're (33:46):
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asylum seekers and they're just economic migrants, getting free stuff for nothing. (33:54):
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They're getting free accommodation. (33:59):
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And actually, I was watching GB News. I see there that rents private, (34:01):
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the whole system of private landlords about the state has got private houses (34:06):
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or taken good private houses to put these people in. (34:11):
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These people are living in these estates that's put up the rent for local people. (34:15):
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And so they're thinking, what the hell? I was paying like 800 pounds for rent before. (34:21):
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Now it's almost 2000 pounds per house and I can't do it. (34:27):
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So it is a recipe for resentment. that people feel locally that the areas become (34:30):
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moved from being a safe area to becoming an unsafe area from where it was easy to rent a place. (34:37):
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Now it's very difficult to rent a place or even find a place to stay. (34:45):
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And they're very resentful that their children can't find a house to stay and (34:49):
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they don't want their daughters walking around in fear of being raped or the (34:54):
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young sons being beat up on the street. (35:00):
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Now, actually, it kind of reminds me, there's a town there as you leave County (35:03):
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Armagh and you're just going south as the cabin or Monon, I can't remember, but there's a town. (35:09):
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And actually, there's a huge amount of Roman that has gone into this local town. (35:15):
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I'm not talking about Ballymen at the minute, but I've driven through this place. (35:22):
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Its name just bothered me by at a minute but basically there's a huge amount (35:26):
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of Roma have gone into this town, a very run down town, (35:32):
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a lot of Roma went into it, they were put into it now they've had things a local (35:35):
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person told me that they had a thing for the 12th of July where they were playing (35:40):
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very loud music as they were having the 12th of July, (35:46):
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March going past or whatever and at the same time they also put, (35:49):
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I believe they painted or they had a bit of a bonfire, (35:53):
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at the local GAA pitch just before a final. (35:57):
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So these role members are saying, we're coming in here now, we've got the numbers, (36:01):
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we're the boss here now, we're going to tell you, the Protestants and the Catholics, (36:06):
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there's a new king in town here. (36:12):
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So basically they gave the two fingers to everybody, all the locals, and of course, (36:14):
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when something like that happens, it leads to resentment, it leads to anger, (36:20):
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and it's in a place like Ballymina, the locals, you can see that a number of (36:23):
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houses have been burned, windows have been broken, and there's now a big conflict (36:28):
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between local people and the police. (36:32):
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Hearts of Oak:
Well, let's jump down to Cork and look at some of the people coming out, (36:37):
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anger at mass immigration. Here's a clip from War Room, and then we'll do a (36:42):
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clip from Ezra Levant, who seems to get everywhere. (36:46):
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So here's just a clip from War Room for the War Room Posse. (36:49):
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Here in front of the Albert Key building. There's a bunch of Irish pastures (36:52):
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today in glorious Cork, Ireland. (36:56):
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And they're playing a tune right now for all of us in the Posse. (36:59):
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And yeah, it's an amazing day, amazing group of people. (37:02):
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Patriots from all around, young and old, all kinds of families cheering. (37:07):
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And we want Ireland to be Irish. (37:11):
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There's lots of chants of people saying, get them out, get them out, get them out. (37:13):
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But also some things going on here. But Kevin, hang on. (37:18):
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Ireland's been the country that's been the quietest, the most quiet about everything (37:21):
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that's going on on this immigration. (37:28):
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Their politicians are bought and paid for by Brussels. (37:31):
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Is this really an awakening? Are we getting a red-pilled awakening with our (37:34):
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Irish brothers and sisters about the dangers of mass immigration? (37:39):
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I think we are, Steve. I think we are. And this is one of the several protests recently. (37:45):
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Hermann Kelly:
There's several demonstrations, and I've been in touch with them. (37:53):
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Hearts of Oak:
Well, let me just play this other just 20 seconds from Ezra. Here is Ezra. (37:57):
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Hi everybody, Ezra Levant. I am in the heart of Cork, Ireland's second city. (38:05):
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You can see I am surrounded, absolutely surrounded, by Irish people flying Irish flags. (38:10):
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It's very different to the counter-protest I just left, where you could barely find an Irish flag. (38:17):
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But there were lots of Palestinian flags, transgender flags, (38:23):
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and government labour union flags. (38:26):
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It's an interesting divide. (38:29):
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What sorry thank you and the (38:32):
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police were out in force standing between them this March (38:37):
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is a sequel to the March in Dublin about five weeks ago that drew more than (38:41):
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50,000 people and I'm not near the front so I'm gonna hold this up high to try (38:47):
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and show you the scale of this. (38:55):
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I don't want to make an estimate because I'm in the middle of the crowd. (39:01):
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Hearts of Oak:
Great footage from both Warren and Ezra, but it does mean Steve Bannon's point (39:05):
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that the Irish seem to have been accepting of this, but it seems as though a (39:12):
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point has been reached and frustration is building. (39:16):
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Hermann Kelly:
Absolutely. The number of rallies since we had that one in Dublin there in February, (39:21):
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there's been a number of rallies has increased dramatically all around the country (39:28):
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in various towns. all around. (39:35):
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It's pretty spontaneous. It's not that even well-organized. It's just that local (39:39):
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people have come up, oh, there's another asylum seeker. (39:43):
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Let's call them what they are, economic migrants here, just taking advantage of these. (39:49):
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Easy, easy to pull political idiots that they have in Ireland. (39:55):
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Economic migrants coming in looking for free stuff. (40:00):
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And their resentment locally is going up and there's been rallies all over Monaghan (40:03):
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and all over the country. (40:09):
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They've just come up spontaneously and they're getting good crowds. (40:11):
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This idea that Irish people are just going to sit around and let their country (40:15):
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be taken over by people coming in for free stuff is just no, that's coming to an end. (40:20):
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Hermann Kelly:
When we started this, the Irish (40:26):
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Freedom Party, we had the first successful rally against immigration. (40:28):
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It was in December 2018, and we had 150 people. (40:34):
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That's all we had. Outside the Dáil, there was a kind of protestable leftist (40:39):
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run by people before puberty, people before profit, as they call themselves. (40:43):
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Hermann Kelly:
Outside the Dáil, we had 150. They thought they would show up, (40:48):
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shout us down, chase us off. (40:53):
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Hermann Kelly:
We had a successful rally. (40:54):
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Hermann Kelly:
We had tripled their number we spoke we then went off people were happy and (40:57):
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Hermann Kelly:
after that we had rallies to do with the issue of free speech about the carbon tax etc. (41:05):
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Hermann Kelly:
And the whole practice of having rallies on the streets public rallies started to take off. (41:12):
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Hermann Kelly:
And that increased a number of years ago there was a lot of rallies about this (41:20):
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immigration issue. And it's kicked off again. (41:26):
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Hermann Kelly:
It's kicked off again. There'll be one in Dublin on Sunday the 22nd of June. (41:28):
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And that should be a big, big event. Now, I've spoken at some of these rallies before in Dublin. (41:33):
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Hermann Kelly:
Very, very large crowds. And yet the chant was Sinn Féin or traitors is a common one. (41:40):
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Hermann Kelly:
What's that one? Get them out. It's good. It has ambiguity about the politicians. (41:48):
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But also many of the freeloaders who come here to abuse our hot vitality in Ireland. (41:57):
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Hermann Kelly:
The whole issue of the relationship, Irish politicians are liars, okay? (42:03):
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Hermann Kelly:
They're here not to do what's best for Ireland. (42:11):
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Hermann Kelly:
They're here as, I don't know, they're here to represent people in Brussels (42:14):
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to us, right? They want to impose this mass immigration. (42:19):
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Hermann Kelly:
Now, there was an Irish guy, a dangerous Irish guy called Peter Sutherland. (42:22):
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He's a former Queen of Gail attorney general in Ireland. (42:27):
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Hermann Kelly:
He was also an EU commissioner, and he was the guy who was a big noise, (42:31):
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advocating, and a number of years ago in the House of Commons committee, (42:37):
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he talked about the EU needs to break down the homogeneity in nation states (42:42):
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and do it by immigration and multiculturalism. (42:48):
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So they explicitly say they want to destroy the nation state, (42:52):
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Hermann Kelly:
and you must do that by mass immigration and destroy the homogeneity of nation states. (42:56):
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Hermann Kelly:
That's what they're doing. That's the reason why they're doing it. (43:01):
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Hermann Kelly:
And we have to counteract that by helping young families to have children. (43:04):
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Hermann Kelly:
That all we are looking for now is Freedom Party is that people have the basics (43:11):
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of every normal country around the world that they have an ability to get an education. (43:16):
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To find a job, to have a house, get married, have a family, bring them up in (43:23):
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their culture, have a future. (43:30):
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We're not looking for bells and whistles and free dessert after every meal. (43:32):
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We're just looking for the very basics of a successful functioning country. (43:39):
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That's all we're looking for. (43:43):
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And we're not going to have that while we are members of the EU and our country (43:44):
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Hermann Kelly:
is getting floated by EU open borders. (43:49):
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Hermann Kelly:
Another aspect, actually, Ireland has control over the number of non-EU work permits. (43:52):
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Hermann Kelly:
Now, the country the size of America gives out 65,000 work permits, (43:58):
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whereas a country like Ireland, with a country of just over population over (44:04):
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Hermann Kelly:
5 million, In the south, we give out 40,000 work permits. (44:07):
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Hermann Kelly:
And attached to those, for 20,000 of them, we have a full family reunification for the first 20,000. (44:13):
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Hermann Kelly:
Now, that is just ridiculous. And we can see where... (44:21):
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Whole housing estates at the minute are being bought off by Indian nationals all around Ireland. (44:25):
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Hermann Kelly:
And you know what? That's just a recipe for resentment. (44:31):
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Hermann Kelly:
These people coming in, they have money from somewhere, and they're buying up (44:34):
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properties where Irish people can't afford them. (44:38):
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Hermann Kelly:
That is the death of a nation and the death of a nation state. (44:41):
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Hermann Kelly:
And our thing is to come back about the regrowth of a nation and the regrowth (44:45):
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of the comeback of the nation state. (44:51):
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Hearts of Oak:
Let's put two stories together and finish off with lois (44:55):
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mcclatchy miller and billboard chris being arrested um over (44:58):
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Hearts of Oak:
there in brussels but first let me bring up this uh two let me put these two (45:01):
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together uh they they kind of fit that you'd posted this uh which of the following (45:06):
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issues should be the two most important priorities to deal with in ireland and (45:13):
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housing is there a 62 22%, huge housing crisis, (45:16):
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immigration 28%, cost of living 25%, and the economic issues are much lower, (45:20):
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and the health issues are much lower. (45:28):
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Hearts of Oak:
There is that, and then let me just bring up another one, which shows the changes, (45:30):
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And this is, so Garda eligibility criteria for those not from Ireland, (45:37):
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and the Garda being the police force in Ireland. (45:45):
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You have to be a national or of a European Union member state or be a national (45:48):
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of European Economic Area. (45:53):
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Or you can be a refugee or a person granted subsidiary protection. (45:55):
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Hearts of Oak:
So you can come over in a boat and you can join the Garda. (45:59):
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Hearts of Oak:
That kind of concerns me. But yeah, those pressures, it's about housing, (46:03):
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immigration, but then the police force. (46:07):
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Hearts of Oak:
What on earth has happened if you can come over on a dinghy and actually probably (46:10):
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join the Garda? Who knows if you can speak English or anything or what your (46:13):
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Hearts of Oak:
background is, but why would you be calling for refugees to join your police force? Bonkers. (46:16):
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Hermann Kelly:
It's incredible, isn't it? It's absolute madness. Actually, not only are they (46:25):
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allowed to join the police force, they're also allowed to join the Irish army. (46:29):
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So you can come into a situation where foreigners are allowed to walk around (46:32):
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our country with guns telling natives what to do. It's just madness. (46:39):
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And the whole thing about why is housing and immigration the biggest issues? (46:43):
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Because if you increase the number, if you have large-scale immigration and (46:48):
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you have increased numbers of people in the country, increased demand for housing, (46:53):
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and in normal economics, supply and demand, (46:58):
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when demand goes up, prices go up, and normal people find it difficult to buy a house. (47:02):
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And that's why many, many young, talented, well-educated Irish people are being (47:09):
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forced to emigrate to countries like Australia and Canada. (47:14):
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And so we are being demographically replaced in our own country And the most (47:17):
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capable people, young, well-educated people are leaving for foreign shores. (47:22):
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Now, that is, that cannot continue. (47:26):
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Hearts of Oak:
Oh, exactly. (47:29):
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Hermann Kelly:
Our position is we would like to. (47:31):
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Hearts of Oak:
No, no, go for it. Your position. (47:35):
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Hermann Kelly:
Not only do we want to stop the mass immigration into Ireland, (47:39):
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we want to make sure that those young people in Ireland who are well-educated (47:44):
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have some to contribute, can stay in Ireland, can get a house, can see a future. (47:49):
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And also, if we need more workers for the economy, whatever, (47:54):
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Hermann Kelly:
well, we've got millions of well-educated, experienced people all across the (48:00):
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world who are Irish, in Canada, in Britain, in America, etc., (48:06):
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who are well-able and willing to come back if they had an opportunity. (48:10):
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And so we most give opportunities to our young people to see a future in Ireland. (48:13):
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Hearts of Oak:
I think that's why the Irish Freedom Party does seem to be the only party of common sense. (48:20):
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Hearts of Oak:
Down there in the republic um let (48:24):
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Hearts of Oak:
me play this little clip just to finish off and um we're uh we're really out (48:27):
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Hearts of Oak:
of time but just good to refer to it uh obviously it happened over in brussels (48:32):
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Hearts of Oak:
and i we've had lewis and billboard chris on many times um here's a clip of (48:36):
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them getting arrested for saying that men are men and women are women and children (48:41):
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cannot consent to puberty blockers. (48:45):
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Hermann Kelly:
I'll let you do the choice. I'll let you do the choice right now. (48:47):
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Hermann Kelly:
Either you take your silence and it's okay. Or either you guys are. (48:50):
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Hearts of Oak:
Going to the (48:55):
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Push station. Stay on you! Stay on you! Stay on you! Stay on you! (48:56):
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Hermann Kelly:
Stay on you! (49:03):
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Hermann Kelly:
Stay on you! Two of these men came and threatened and abused me. (49:06):
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Hermann Kelly:
I wasn't there at that moment. I have a whole camera actually. (49:09):
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Hermann Kelly:
I called you guys. Yeah, but it's because you guys are... just (49:13):
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right here so but we're allowed to my (49:16):
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point of view to my point of view the trouble cause is caused by you guys being (49:19):
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Hermann Kelly:
in this place being in here with a state of okay i let you the choices it's (49:23):
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Hermann Kelly:
no up to you all right i'm happy to go to the police station then okay i'm gonna (49:27):
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Hermann Kelly:
stand up for my rights and i'm gonna stand up for the kids that are being harmed (49:32):
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Hermann Kelly:
okay you're going to the police station all right, (49:34):
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And. (49:41):
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Hearts of Oak:
Then they get arrested and are let (49:41):
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out. It's common sense. Children cannot consent to people who blockers. (49:43):
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Hermann Kelly:
Children, they're children. (49:48):
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Hearts of Oak:
And yet having that sign, they're the ones causing the trouble and not those (49:50):
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who are abusing and attacking them. And in the centre of Europe and Brussels. (49:55):
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Hermann Kelly:
Absolutely. I actually met Lois and Chris there last week in Wednesday in the (50:00):
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European Parliament, I introduced them to my ME feed, Anders Vistesen. (50:06):
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They make a common sense argument that children are too young to consent to (50:11):
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a life-changing decision such as that. And like. (50:16):
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And Chris told me that Brussels was the worst city he's ever been in for reception, (50:23):
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that there was threats of violence, people throwing bottles at him, (50:31):
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there was threats of violence. (50:35):
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Hermann Kelly:
And in that clip there, what happened was a group of 20 people came, (50:36):
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Hermann Kelly:
all these leftists came threatening violence. (50:39):
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Hermann Kelly:
The police were called. And instead of lifting, all they were doing was having (50:43):
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billboards up with a very simple message, having peaceful conversations with people who went past. (50:47):
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And the police, instead of lifting the mob of thugs who were threatening violence, (50:53):
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lifted these two people, took them to a police station, stripped them off their (50:58):
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clothes, threatened them with charges, and eventually they were released. (51:02):
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Hermann Kelly:
The good thing is that this issue has now become a big issue in the States, (51:06):
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and they were invited over to the White House to explain exactly what happened. (51:11):
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Hermann Kelly:
And the thing is, this trans ideology, this trans, like this, this common, (51:16):
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Hermann Kelly:
this alliance between the far left and Islam and all this trans ideology, (51:23):
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Hermann Kelly:
it's all part of the cultural Marxist agenda, destroy the nation state, (51:31):
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destroy the family, and even the distinction between male and female. (51:36):
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Hermann Kelly:
And that's why we must do the counter and stand up for a belief in biology, not ideology. (51:39):
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Hermann Kelly:
Stand up for the distinction and the complementarity between male and female (51:46):
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as a foundation of family life and a civilization. (51:52):
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Hermann Kelly:
That's what we're talking about at the minute. The. (51:57):
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