The Week According To . . . Richard Taylor

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Hearts of Oak: And hello, Hearts of Oak. Thanks so much for joining us on another News Review. (00:23):
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Hearts of Oak: And it's great to have a Welsh voice back with us. (00:27):
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Hearts of Oak: It's been a while. And that is Richard Taylor. Richard, thanks so much for your time as always. (00:31):
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Richard Taylor: Peter, always a privilege, never a pressure. And I've enjoyed our previous episodes as well. (00:36):
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Richard Taylor: It's been fantastic. And it's nice to be back on your show again. (00:42):
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Hearts of Oak: Great to have you. And so much to discuss. And obviously follow Richard. (00:45):
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Hearts of Oak: There is his X handle. All the other links are in the description. (00:50):
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Hearts of Oak: Now, maybe the first thing was a video, a speech in the House of Commons this week. (00:55):
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Hearts of Oak: So let me bring that up because it kind of shows where we are as a nation. It's a whole 10 minutes. (01:03):
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Hearts of Oak: We're not going to play all 10 minutes. But let me bring up part of it and then (01:12):
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Hearts of Oak: we can comment. This is Danny Kruger, one of the good, one of the few good conservative MPs. (01:19):
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Hearts of Oak: But here is Danny speaking to an empty chamber. (01:26):
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Richard Taylor: It is an honour to stand here in this empty chamber to speak about the original (01:29):
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Richard Taylor: purpose of this space, which was a chapel in the Church of England. (01:35):
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Richard Taylor: The old chamber of the House of Commons on which this space is modelled after (01:40):
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Richard Taylor: the Great Fire of 1834 was St Stephen's Chapel, (01:46):
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Richard Taylor: formerly a royal church, given by the heirs of Henry VIII to Parliament to serve (01:49):
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Richard Taylor: as its debating chamber. (01:55):
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Richard Taylor: And Madam Deputy Speaker, your chair stands on the altar steps, (01:57):
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Richard Taylor: and the table with the dispatch boxes is where the lectern stood. (02:01):
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Richard Taylor: And I mention this because the link between this place and the Church of England (02:05):
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Richard Taylor: isn't merely ceremonial. (02:10):
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Richard Taylor: The prayers we say here at the start of every day aren't just a nod to tradition. (02:12):
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Richard Taylor: Our democracy is founded on Christian faith and indeed this parliament remains (02:17):
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Richard Taylor: the law-giving power of the Church of England. (02:22):
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Richard Taylor: We in this place have the responsibility to approve or disapprove the doctrine (02:25):
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Richard Taylor: and the rules of the church. (02:29):
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Richard Taylor: And that is as it should be, because the Church of England is not some private (02:31):
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Richard Taylor: club, just another eccentric denomination. (02:35):
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Richard Taylor: The church is a chaplain to the nation, and through the parish system in which (02:39):
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Richard Taylor: every square inch of England has its local church and its local priest, (02:44):
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Richard Taylor: we are all members. We all belong. (02:48):
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Richard Taylor: Even if you never set foot in your church from one year to the next, (02:51):
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Richard Taylor: even if you don't believe in its teachings, it is your church, and you are its member. (02:55):
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Richard Taylor: And so when I speak of the Church of England today, I am not speaking about (02:59):
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Richard Taylor: the internal politics of the Anglican sect. (03:03):
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Richard Taylor: I speak of the common creed of our country, the official religion of the English (03:06):
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Richard Taylor: and the British nation and the institution which, older than the monarchy, (03:11):
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Richard Taylor: much older than parliament, is the institution that made this country. (03:15):
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Hearts of Oak: We could play the whole, but fascinating speech and one that you don't normally (03:21):
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Hearts of Oak: hear any longer in the house. (03:27):
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Hearts of Oak: What were your thoughts as you watched that powerful speech by Danny Kruger MP? (03:29):
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Richard Taylor: Well, I think the first thing is striking to note that there was hardly anybody in the chamber. (03:36):
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Richard Taylor: I mean, that was quite astonishing for me, given the gravitas of what he was (03:42):
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Richard Taylor: actually saying, that we are a Christian nation. and those principles are vital (03:46):
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Richard Taylor: to our identity and our heritage. (03:51):
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Richard Taylor: And, you know, I tweeted earlier that it's a shame that others in Parliament (03:53):
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Richard Taylor: don't think that it's worthy of their time to be part of a debate that establishes (03:58):
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Richard Taylor: us, not just our Parliament, but us as a Christian nation. (04:04):
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Richard Taylor: And I think that is under threat. I think it's been under threat for quite a (04:07):
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Richard Taylor: while because of open borders, (04:11):
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Richard Taylor: Because we've been infiltrated by multiculturalism, which (04:13):
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Richard Taylor: in some cases has not been good for the united kingdom and (04:17):
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Richard Taylor: i think there's been a it's been diluted really (04:21):
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Richard Taylor: the christian message in our country and parliamentarians (04:24):
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Richard Taylor: are responsible for that you know we've got a a branch (04:27):
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Richard Taylor: within uh parliament right now that are so far left-wing progressives (04:30):
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Richard Taylor: that seem to think that their christianity is long (04:34):
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Richard Taylor: gone and forgotten but let's not forget and (04:37):
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Richard Taylor: remind ourselves that our whole parliamentary system (04:41):
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Richard Taylor: was set up around those moral principled and (04:44):
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Richard Taylor: and christian values and i think it's (04:48):
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Richard Taylor: important to recognize that and i was absolutely appalled by (04:50):
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Richard Taylor: the fact that there was hardly anybody in the (04:54):
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Richard Taylor: chamber but i would applaud him for speaking out and the words that he said (04:57):
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Richard Taylor: i would absolutely he has my full support and you know i really think paul that (05:01):
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Richard Taylor: our heritage is vital to our identity it's so important that we hold on to the (05:06):
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Richard Taylor: values that made the United Kingdom what it is today. (05:12):
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Richard Taylor: And I think a lot of that has been, it's been a road did, unfortunately, (05:16):
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Richard Taylor: because we've seen politicians, consecutive governments move away from it and (05:21):
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Richard Taylor: only claim to be a Christian nation when it suits their political narrative. (05:26):
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Hearts of Oak: No, it's so true. And such a powerful speech. (05:31):
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Hearts of Oak: Depressing the chamber was empty and something that we don't really see any (05:36):
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Hearts of Oak: longer in terms of politicians holding on to their faith because they don't (05:41):
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Hearts of Oak: actually have any faith. (05:48):
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Hearts of Oak: Um but let's move on (05:49):
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Hearts of Oak: to advance uk and it (05:52):
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Hearts of Oak: just fits that we had ben habib with us (05:55):
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Hearts of Oak: on thursday um just a few days ago uh and you've been involved with advance (05:58):
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Hearts of Oak: uk and advance uk has also gone welsh tell us a little bit more about how those (06:04):
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Hearts of Oak: in wales can enjoy the benefits as advance uk only coming up to three weeks old, (06:11):
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Hearts of Oak: but already over in Wales? (06:18):
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Richard Taylor: Yeah, I think the first thing to say is that, of course, Advance UK is about a one-nation state. (06:22):
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Richard Taylor: We believe in the freedom of speech, sovereignty, and equality under the law. (06:27):
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Richard Taylor: Those are the guiding principles and the mission of the party. (06:31):
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Richard Taylor: And, you know, one of the wonderful things about Advance UK and why I got involved (06:35):
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Richard Taylor: in it, you know my previous kind of political relationships with Reform and (06:38):
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Richard Taylor: Nigel Farage and others, you know, that I've stood in previous elections. (06:43):
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Hearts of Oak: All forgiven. (06:47):
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Richard Taylor: Thank you for that, yeah. It's because I simply saw, and I've been friends with (06:48):
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Richard Taylor: Ben since 2016, actually, when I interviewed him on one of my programs called Rich Politics. (06:53):
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Richard Taylor: And, you know, he has been integral and absolutely authentic on his principles (06:58):
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Richard Taylor: when it comes to what he believes in. And he's a man of honor. (07:04):
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Richard Taylor: I, you know, I've spoken to him personally and believe in him and what he's (07:08):
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Richard Taylor: trying to do to save our nation, because right now our nation faces existential (07:13):
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Richard Taylor: threat because we've given powers over the foreign bodies, (07:18):
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Richard Taylor: super institutions outside of the UK, and we need to reclaim our sovereignty. (07:23):
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Richard Taylor: And one of the most attractive things about this party, Advanced UK, (07:28):
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Richard Taylor: is it is so democratic that the members get a say. (07:32):
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Richard Taylor: Unlike reform, where Farage is reform and reform is Farage, And, you know, (07:37):
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Richard Taylor: with with the way that we've set up Advanced UK here in the United Kingdom, (07:43):
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Richard Taylor: of course, I've been given the task, and I'm really humbled and honored that (07:48):
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Richard Taylor: Ben invited me to do so to lead up the party here in Wales, (07:51):
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Richard Taylor: you know, Wales is a different beast altogether. (07:56):
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Richard Taylor: As you can imagine, we have the Welsh Parliament, the Welsh Government here (07:58):
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Richard Taylor: and the Welsh Labour and devolution has been an absolute disaster for the last two decades. (08:01):
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Richard Taylor: I think Advanced UK offers something different. I think in previous interviews, (08:08):
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Richard Taylor: and one that you did, I watched with our leader Ben Habib talking about we don't (08:13):
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Richard Taylor: need foxes, we need lions. (08:18):
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Richard Taylor: We need people who really believe in our nation, in our sovereignty, (08:20):
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Richard Taylor: and fighting for those things, and our history and our values that have been eroded. (08:25):
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Richard Taylor: I think Advanced UK really stands for that. I'm a patriotic Welshman. (08:29):
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Richard Taylor: You know that, Peter, from previous interviews. (08:34):
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Richard Taylor: And I feel Wales has lost its way in the inertia of what's happening with Westminster. (08:38):
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Richard Taylor: We have a Labour government in Westminster, Labour here in Wales, (08:43):
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Richard Taylor: but they seem unable to work together. (08:46):
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Richard Taylor: You know, in Wales in particular, we have the lowest standards of education (08:49):
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Richard Taylor: under the PISA system. We have the longest waiting list in our NHS. (08:54):
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Richard Taylor: Child poverty is some of the highest in the whole of the United Kingdom. (08:59):
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Richard Taylor: And so Wales has suffered tragically under Welsh Labour here in Wales. (09:03):
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Richard Taylor: And I think it's time for change. Now, I appreciate that we're a new party and (09:08):
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Richard Taylor: we've got targets to set and we're looking at 2029 as being the main objective. (09:13):
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Richard Taylor: But I think Advanced UK offers something completely different from all the other parties. It is unique. (09:18):
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Richard Taylor: It is different in the way it's set up. For example, I think Ben mentioned to (09:24):
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Richard Taylor: you that we have a college of members of which some announcements are going to be made. (09:28):
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Richard Taylor: About that and the college will hold the executive (09:33):
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Richard Taylor: directors to account and it's more democratic (09:36):
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Richard Taylor: than any other political party that I've ever been (09:39):
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Richard Taylor: involved in previously and that (09:42):
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Richard Taylor: is why I was drawn to it and when Ben invited me I looked at it first up to (09:45):
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Richard Taylor: the constitution went through it all with my team and thought you know what (09:49):
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Richard Taylor: this is something I can get behind because the mission statements the pillars (09:52):
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Richard Taylor: about nation-state and about freedom of speech sovereignty and equality under (09:57):
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Richard Taylor: the law are things that are very, (10:03):
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Richard Taylor: very special and dear to my heart, given the two-tier justice system that we're (10:04):
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Richard Taylor: seeing right now across the whole spectrum in the country. (10:08):
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Hearts of Oak: I'm looking forward to seeing that grow. (10:12):
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Hearts of Oak: I love Richard on because his musical lilt instead of my flat Northern Irish tune. (10:16):
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Hearts of Oak: It's lovely. I just get lost in that and forget that we have another story. (10:25):
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Hearts of Oak: Let me bring up the next one. (10:30):
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Hearts of Oak: This is, Richard was talking about Wales, but over in Westminster. (10:32):
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Hearts of Oak: This was the wonderful stunt that Together Declaration did. (10:37):
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Hearts of Oak: Shining no to digital ID on the side of Parliament in the middle of London Together declaration. (10:41):
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Hearts of Oak: And Alan Miller had put, we just beamed no to digital IDs up in Parliament. (10:51):
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Hearts of Oak: They keep trying, but we won't stop. (10:55):
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Hearts of Oak: No to digital ID, yes to digital Bill of Rights. (10:58):
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Hearts of Oak: And it is, I love the way Together keep pushing this conversation that we need to have, (11:02):
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Hearts of Oak: that we need protections and rights in all different areas and certainly in (11:09):
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Hearts of Oak: the digital space as we are pushed for digital ID. (11:15):
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Hearts of Oak: So, yeah, I was quite jealous of that picture, Richard. (11:19):
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Hearts of Oak: I would love if I'd been involved in shining a message of such importance up there. (11:23):
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Hearts of Oak: But no, Dem, you've been involved with together, doing a fantastic way at Alan (11:30):
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Hearts of Oak: on probably a week or 10 days ago. (11:34):
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Hearts of Oak: And this shows the importance of Together declaration for keeping these issues in the public eye. (11:38):
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Richard Taylor: One of the extraordinary things about the Together Declaration, (11:45):
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Richard Taylor: and one of its strengths, is that it's non-political, apolitical. (11:48):
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Richard Taylor: In basic terms, you know, it's not a political party. (11:51):
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Richard Taylor: And they stand up for the beliefs that I believe in, certainly, (11:55):
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Richard Taylor: and that's to do with freedom of speech, bodily autonomy, all the things that we fought against. (11:59):
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Richard Taylor: And a few years ago, you may recall that we had 360,000 signatories to fight (12:03):
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Richard Taylor: back against vaccine passports and mandatory vaccines for NHS workers. (12:08):
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Richard Taylor: And I was privileged and honoured and humbled to be with Alan and the rest of (12:12):
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Richard Taylor: the team and Adam Brooks and many others as well to go down to 10 Downing Street (12:16):
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Richard Taylor: to present the petition, which (12:19):
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Richard Taylor: resulted in an absolute success and the government doing a U-turn on it. (12:21):
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Richard Taylor: So, you know, they've got good credibility. (12:24):
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Richard Taylor: And Alan and his team are phenomenal. (12:27):
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Richard Taylor: I was part of their team and the executive for some time before stepping away, (12:30):
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Richard Taylor: got involved in other things. (12:34):
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Richard Taylor: But, you know, one of the things that concerns me personally is the whole digital ID. (12:35):
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Richard Taylor: This is the nanny state, the Brit car that they want to bring in, (12:41):
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Richard Taylor: which will control what you know and your data and gather information about (12:45):
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Richard Taylor: you, what you're doing, where you're spending, where you're going, (12:50):
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Richard Taylor: where you're traveling. (12:53):
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Richard Taylor: And the tactic that they're using, and it's part of the globalist agenda, (12:53):
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Richard Taylor: is that we're trying to keep you safe. (12:58):
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Richard Taylor: When the government tries to tell you they're trying to keep you safe, (13:00):
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Richard Taylor: you've got to read between the lines of that narrative because it's not true. (13:04):
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Richard Taylor: And I think what they're doing, this digital bill of rights, (13:08):
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Richard Taylor: I should say, is very important because what it does, (13:12):
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Richard Taylor: They're trying to push it as a mandatory thing so that people sign up to it. (13:16):
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Richard Taylor: And we know where this is going. (13:22):
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Richard Taylor: It's a cashless society. And I believe it's going to be a cardless society. (13:23):
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Richard Taylor: And most of us are going to end up paying and using these things more and more, (13:26):
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Richard Taylor: which we do currently now. (13:31):
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Richard Taylor: And everything will be on there. All your information will be accessible. (13:33):
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Richard Taylor: And one of the frightening things about the Brit card (13:37):
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Richard Taylor: Apparently, even employers can download a free app and they can check out your (13:39):
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Richard Taylor: details, if you apply for a job, that is, and find out all the information about you if they can. (13:44):
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Richard Taylor: It also gives these super-intentioned institutions access to your personal data. (13:49):
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Richard Taylor: And I think that's a very worrying place to be right now. We have biometrics. (13:54):
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Richard Taylor: We have all these things going on. (13:59):
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Richard Taylor: And it's all part of, if you like, I mean, I might sound like a conspiracy theorist. (14:00):
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Richard Taylor: It's all part of the Bill Gates agenda. It's this globalist elitism that wants (14:04):
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Richard Taylor: to control the populace and control (14:09):
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Richard Taylor: your information and harvest all your information so they can control you, (14:11):
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Richard Taylor: so they can put fear on you and send you messages. (14:17):
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Richard Taylor: And so it's a very concerning thing. So I think what the Together Declaration (14:20):
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Richard Taylor: are doing is an absolutely essential part of what all of us should be getting on board with. (14:24):
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Richard Taylor: And we should support them in fighting back against the digital ID because we (14:30):
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Richard Taylor: know where this is going. (14:35):
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Richard Taylor: Those of us who are awake to it can see it afar off. I know you do as well, Peter. (14:36):
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Richard Taylor: You've seen it coming down the road like many of us. And it's about controlling (14:41):
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Richard Taylor: the masses and they're doing it. (14:44):
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Richard Taylor: And, of course, I could digress, but AI is a big part of that as well. (14:46):
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Richard Taylor: I'm quite concerned about some of that. (14:51):
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Richard Taylor: There are beneficial parts of it, but there's also some things I'm concerned (14:52):
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Richard Taylor: about because people then will be able to trace track and know your spending (14:56):
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Richard Taylor: habits, where you're going, who you're with, what you're doing. (15:00):
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Richard Taylor: I mean, I don't want people to know my personal business, but this is what the (15:02):
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Richard Taylor: government is set out to do because they want to know exactly what you're up to. (15:06):
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Richard Taylor: And that is a nanny state, which I will always on that hill die and fight against (15:10):
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Richard Taylor: because it is not something I believe a government should be involved in our (15:14):
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Richard Taylor: personal and private lives. (15:18):
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Hearts of Oak: We've seen a massive erosion of privacy. And today, so in front of one of the papers, (15:19):
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Hearts of Oak: Nottingham Hill Carnival is going to have live facial recognition cameras out (15:23):
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Hearts of Oak: so of course another element of this jigsaw of destroying our privacy, (15:28):
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Hearts of Oak: But one other concern was this was the front page on the Express on Thursday, (15:36):
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Hearts of Oak: and I hadn't actually seen it. (15:42):
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Hearts of Oak: It was actually Alan Miller, and it was on his post. (15:45):
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Hearts of Oak: And this is they failed to provide what might have helped. anti-radicalization (15:49):
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Hearts of Oak: scheme prevents slam for wrong decisions over Southport and David Im's killers. (15:55):
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Hearts of Oak: And it seems to be that actually because of a fear that they are focusing on (16:02):
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Hearts of Oak: the actual threat, which is Islamic terrorism, that they've tried to find other threats, (16:08):
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Hearts of Oak: including the so-called far right, which don't seem to exist. (16:15):
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Hearts of Oak: But anyway, they've tried to find that boogeyman and taken their eye off the ball. (16:18):
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Hearts of Oak: But, Richard, this is just another example of the failure of the government (16:24):
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Hearts of Oak: and proves that actually they're not there to keep us safe. (16:30):
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Hearts of Oak: They're just there to fail, to fall over themselves and to find any excuse to (16:34):
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Hearts of Oak: make sure they don't face up to the problems we have in our society. (16:41):
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Richard Taylor: Yeah, I think the mistrusting government is growing exponentially. (16:45):
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Richard Taylor: And that is because of this gap of misinformation where, you know, (16:49):
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Richard Taylor: when a story breaks, we've seen it with the Southport murders and others as (16:54):
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Richard Taylor: well in relation to the story you've just mentioned there. (16:59):
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Richard Taylor: What it does, it causes a suspicion in the minds of people. (17:01):
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Richard Taylor: Why aren't you telling us the truth? And it's because they fear that because (17:05):
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Richard Taylor: of certain ethnicities that may be involved, it'll cause some kind of racial unrest. (17:09):
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Richard Taylor: Unrest and you know and so people will take the streets but if you've seen an (17:14):
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Richard Taylor: air bin right now with the asylum seekers in a hotel which is breaking as you (17:18):
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Richard Taylor: know what's going on there what's happened there you know this is because the government (17:21):
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Richard Taylor: And we've seen it, I mean, we're off-piece, Stuart, a little bit, (17:27):
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Richard Taylor: slightly, but, you know, with the Afghans and the leaked data information and (17:30):
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Richard Taylor: former servicemen, that their information has been leaked now, (17:34):
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Richard Taylor: it's because the government are not transparent. (17:38):
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Richard Taylor: They have these super injunctions. They don't give us the full facts. (17:41):
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Richard Taylor: And I think the Met Police, of course, and those involved also, (17:45):
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Richard Taylor: not just the government, I mean, law belongs to Parliament. (17:49):
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Richard Taylor: I'm kind of anti-Supreme Court. I think all law should be done right through (17:52):
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Richard Taylor: Parliament. and Supreme Court is a bunch of left-wing judges. (17:55):
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Richard Taylor: But anyway, that aside, this gap in space that they leave, what happens is that (17:59):
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Richard Taylor: normal people like you and I make up our own kind of judgments about what's (18:04):
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Richard Taylor: going on. And we can see that it's being covered up. (18:09):
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Richard Taylor: And what we've seen on the streets in our country, I mean, this is going to (18:11):
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Richard Taylor: become more and more apparent. (18:16):
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Richard Taylor: Now, I'm not an advocate for violence. I don't believe it's the right way. (18:17):
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Richard Taylor: I believe we have democratic levers. (18:20):
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Richard Taylor: But if those democratic levers are failing the people of this country, (18:22):
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Richard Taylor: Then I'm afraid that hardworking citizens of this great United Kingdom are going (18:25):
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Richard Taylor: to take to the streets and they're going to decide we've had enough. (18:30):
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Richard Taylor: We cannot trust politicians. (18:34):
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Richard Taylor: We cannot trust these institutions or government. (18:35):
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Richard Taylor: We're going to take the law into our own hands. Now, that can be a very dangerous (18:38):
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Richard Taylor: thing, but at the same time, it is very it's very important to recognize why that is happening. (18:42):
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Richard Taylor: It's because they leave a space of this kind of it's nuanced. (18:47):
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Richard Taylor: So they don't tell you what's going on. (18:53):
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Richard Taylor: You know, we need to, the Southport was a perfect example of that. (18:55):
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Richard Taylor: And we were, you know, considered to be far right thugs. (18:59):
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Richard Taylor: You know, I've been called a far right thug most of my life, (19:03):
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Richard Taylor: to be honest here, simply because I believe in sovereignty, putting British (19:05):
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Richard Taylor: citizens first, and putting our country and our values and our history and everything first. (19:09):
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Richard Taylor: That's considered to be far right. I mean, it's bonkers. It's absolutely bonkers. (19:14):
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Richard Taylor: Where if I was a Europhile, I'd be amazing and I'd be loved by everybody. (19:19):
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Richard Taylor: But I do think this story in particular you've mentioned, it reveals to us a (19:25):
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Richard Taylor: failing within the government not to give the facts and the details at the relevant time when they need. (19:29):
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Richard Taylor: I know there's due process. I know there's investigations. (19:34):
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Richard Taylor: But at the same time, when it comes to public opinion, it's very important that (19:37):
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Richard Taylor: the truth gets out there quickly so we know. (19:41):
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Richard Taylor: Because what happens with most of these cases, Peter, as you have seen and recognized (19:44):
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Richard Taylor: yourself, a lot of people, from my experience, statistically, (19:48):
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Richard Taylor: from certain ethnicities, We're seeing a real large growth of this since the (19:53):
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Richard Taylor: borders have still been open since Tony Blair. (19:57):
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Richard Taylor: I've always said this. I've always, people say to me, Rich, you keep going on (20:00):
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Richard Taylor: about Tony Blair, it's his fault. (20:04):
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Richard Taylor: It is his fault. When he opened up the borders in the 90s and we had uncontrolled (20:05):
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Richard Taylor: immigration, which we still have today, and we have ideologies and cultures (20:10):
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Richard Taylor: that are not compatible with our own, (20:14):
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Richard Taylor: that cannot coexist with us as a sovereign nation, (20:16):
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Richard Taylor: then you're going to have these conflicts. (20:21):
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Richard Taylor: And there's going to be in the communities, Manchester, Birmingham, (20:23):
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Richard Taylor: London, the major cities, we are going to see more and more of these instances (20:26):
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Richard Taylor: happening simply because of the government's failure to shut the borders. (20:31):
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Richard Taylor: You know, this idea of one in, one out. No, no, no. (20:37):
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Richard Taylor: All out, nobody in. Let's have some breathing space. (20:40):
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Richard Taylor: Our country is overcapacitated. did and i've always said this it's one of my (20:44):
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Richard Taylor: cliches it's not a question of compassion it's a question of capacity we don't (20:48):
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Richard Taylor: have the capacity to deal with the amount of people that are coming to this (20:54):
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Richard Taylor: country both legal and illegal (20:57):
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Hearts of Oak: No one will we'll touch on a little bit more on um on the on the immigration (20:59):
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Hearts of Oak: side certainly in terms of that afghan 7 billion to bring in 20 000 afghanis what could go wrong. (21:05):
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Hearts of Oak: Anyway, we'll touch on that a little bit. But this issue about voting, (21:14):
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Hearts of Oak: something completely different, (21:19):
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Hearts of Oak: this Labour government are adamant to bring in voting for 16-year-olds, (21:21):
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Hearts of Oak: seemingly to head off a threat from reform. (21:27):
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Hearts of Oak: And this was Chris Rose, a great post, at 16, we're told 16-year-olds can do anything they want. (21:30):
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Hearts of Oak: Well, at 16-year-old, you can't marry, you (21:36):
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Hearts of Oak: can't buy alcohol or cigarettes you can't drive go to war (21:39):
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Hearts of Oak: get a tattoo do the lottery be on a jury buy a (21:42):
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Hearts of Oak: horse buy a horse buy a house get a (21:45):
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Hearts of Oak: full-time job without being some form of education or training (21:48):
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Hearts of Oak: until you're 18 but a desperate labor believe that 16 year olds should have (21:51):
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Hearts of Oak: the vote and this is just trying to re-engineer uh the landscape isn't it rich (21:56):
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Hearts of Oak: although kind of part of me thinks actually the adults have done such a crap (22:03):
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Hearts of Oak: job on putting in stormer. (22:07):
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Hearts of Oak: So yeah, I don't know whether it's a plague on both houses. (22:09):
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Hearts of Oak: I don't know if 16-year-olds are really ready to make that, what we've always (22:12):
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Hearts of Oak: seen is an important decision to actually vote. (22:18):
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Richard Taylor: Yeah, I put a tweet there about that, actually, on Exxon, saying that if the (22:23):
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Richard Taylor: Arab does can't run the country, now you've got Keir Starmer turning to teenagers. (22:28):
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Richard Taylor: I mean, look, there's a couple of things here. (22:31):
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Richard Taylor: Firstly, I mean, 16-year-olds, I mean, I've got children. I'm a father of five children. (22:34):
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Richard Taylor: And, you know, they're not engaged in politics. They were dragged into it because (22:38):
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Richard Taylor: when I stood as a Brexit Party candidate a few years ago, and they were vilified, (22:41):
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Richard Taylor: actually, and I had to deal with all kinds of things. But that's politics for you. (22:46):
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Richard Taylor: I think 16-year-olds, and I was watching the news, the staff, (22:50):
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Richard Taylor: the ITV news, and they discussed with five children in a school in Birmingham, (22:55):
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Richard Taylor: would they vote when they're 16? (22:59):
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Richard Taylor: And one out of the five just said yes. The rest of them said no, (23:03):
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Richard Taylor: we know nothing about politics. We're not interested in politics. (23:06):
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Richard Taylor: We're more interested in getting on with our lives. And let's be quite honest (23:09):
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Richard Taylor: here. A 16-year-old has no life experience. (23:12):
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Richard Taylor: They don't understand how the world works. They're not engaged in politics unless (23:16):
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Richard Taylor: they've been indoctrinated, which we're seeing in our education system by left-wing (23:20):
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Richard Taylor: teachers and things of that nature. (23:23):
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Richard Taylor: They're not interested in politics. Now, I know there's a big trend on TikTok (23:25):
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Richard Taylor: and other platforms, and Farage has kind of capitalized on that quite a bit. (23:29):
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Richard Taylor: And I understand that. But my issue is this. (23:33):
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Richard Taylor: If you cannot stand as a candidate, which you can't at 16, then you should not be able to vote. (23:36):
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Richard Taylor: That's just my beliefs. I just think if you cannot stand, then you shouldn't be able to vote. (23:42):
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Richard Taylor: You know given the fact that some 16 year olds we used (23:47):
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Richard Taylor: to have here in wales something called the youth parliament uh but (23:50):
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Richard Taylor: the welsh labour government scrapped that and that was trying to help young (23:53):
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Richard Taylor: people engage with politics my fear here is is (23:56):
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Richard Taylor: that if we want 16 year olds to vote and by the way this is a (24:00):
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Richard Taylor: blueprint from wales because wales already has this and keir starmer has always (24:02):
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Richard Taylor: seen wales as a blueprint because welsh labour have been in power for over 20 (24:07):
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Richard Taylor: years under devolution he's thinking well if they're doing that in wales maybe (24:11):
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Richard Taylor: we'll work in westminster I think (24:14):
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Richard Taylor: it's going to work against him I don't think it's quite going to work (24:16):
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Richard Taylor: You know, most 16 year olds are sat in their bedroom on the Xbox and you've (24:21):
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Richard Taylor: got to try and wake them up at four o'clock in the afternoon. (24:25):
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Richard Taylor: All they want is McDonald's. Now, forgive me if you're a 16 year old, (24:28):
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Richard Taylor: because I've got a son that's 16 as well. (24:31):
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Richard Taylor: So I'm not speaking of you, but I'm talking generally. (24:33):
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Richard Taylor: Right. So the idea that they understand what's going on globally, (24:38):
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Richard Taylor: you know, with our economy and and all that kind of stuff, it's just it's just (24:41):
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Richard Taylor: ridiculous. I mean, I think the whole idea of consent. (24:46):
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Richard Taylor: Now, for me, I would say 18 years of age would be just leave it at that, shall we? (24:49):
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Richard Taylor: I mean, 16 years of age is no, for me, it's, I just don't understand the thinking. (24:54):
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Richard Taylor: I think Keir Starmer, he's lost the playing field with so many U-turns. (25:00):
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Richard Taylor: He's reneged on so many things in Manifesto. (25:05):
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Richard Taylor: And he's just clasping at straws at the moment, trying to find some angles to (25:07):
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Richard Taylor: try to get some kind of like gravitas so we can say, you know, (25:12):
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Richard Taylor: we're doing it for other people. It doesn't wash anymore. (25:15):
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Richard Taylor: People are seeing through his lies. They're seeing through everything he's doing. (25:18):
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Richard Taylor: And he is breaking Britain far more. (25:22):
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Richard Taylor: I mean, I don't know if I can say this. I'm not going to cuss. (25:25):
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Richard Taylor: But listen, I thought Tony Blair was banned. This guy takes, (25:29):
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Richard Taylor: Being a Prime Minister, to a whole new level. (25:33):
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Richard Taylor: And, you know, he has decimated not just the farmers, our pensioners, (25:37):
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Richard Taylor: you know, the economy with the tax rises in national insurance. (25:42):
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Richard Taylor: I mean, the list goes on and on and on, people. It could be here all night for me. (25:47):
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Richard Taylor: But the truth is this, that for a 16-year-old to have an understanding of how (25:50):
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Richard Taylor: the world works, how democracy works, how parliament works, and how bills are passed through. (25:55):
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Richard Taylor: Ask them about a green paper Ask them about, you know Ask them They don't have (26:00):
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Richard Taylor: a clue And now we're saying to them You can vote Just because you're 16 But (26:05):
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Richard Taylor: you can't buy cigarettes You (26:10):
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Richard Taylor: can't do this You can't do that But you can vote Why? Because you pay tax (26:12):
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Richard Taylor: It's just absolutely crazy. (26:16):
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Hearts of Oak: Yeah, well, we'll see what the debate in Parliament is. But as we have a government (26:19):
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Hearts of Oak: with no opposition, zero opposition, I can imagine it being pushed through. (26:24):
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Hearts of Oak: Now, someone who is opposition, seemingly the most vocal opposition, (26:31):
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Hearts of Oak: heck of a lot more than reform, is Rupert Lowe MP. (26:37):
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Hearts of Oak: And this is a, obviously, he has got the rape gang inquiry. that he has done fantastic work on. (26:40):
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Hearts of Oak: Nigel dropped the ball. Government refused. Rupert's work has forced the government (26:48):
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Hearts of Oak: into addressing this issue. (26:53):
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Hearts of Oak: Whether or not that will be of any worth, we'll see. (26:56):
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Hearts of Oak: But an e-petition, which is you put a petition, if you get $100,000, (26:59):
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Hearts of Oak: it gets a debate in Parliament. (27:03):
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Hearts of Oak: And Rupert put this, mandatory collection and publication of certain child sexual (27:04):
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Hearts of Oak: offender data, including nationality, ethnicity, immigration status, (27:09):
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Hearts of Oak: religion of the grooming gangs. (27:16):
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Hearts of Oak: They put it down, I think, by 2 o'clock. By the evening it had 100,000. It's got 173. (27:23):
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Hearts of Oak: And this is going to be debated in Parliament. But it shows what an individual (27:29):
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Hearts of Oak: who actually wants to do some good, it actually is possible, (27:34):
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Hearts of Oak: even though he's not part of the system, it is possible for the individual. (27:39):
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Hearts of Oak: But again, it's a good news story. (27:43):
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Hearts of Oak: And this will be debated and the cameras will be there. We, the public, (27:46):
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Hearts of Oak: can see it. We can attend. (27:51):
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Hearts of Oak: I'll certainly be there to attend. I'm sure you will be as well, (27:53):
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Hearts of Oak: Richard. So this is a good news story, really. (27:57):
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Richard Taylor: Yeah, I think Rupert Lowe has shown himself to be one of the shining lights (28:01):
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Richard Taylor: as a parliamentarian, to be honest. (28:06):
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Richard Taylor: He, you know, when he got elected, I mean, he, as you know, decided to give (28:08):
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Richard Taylor: up his salary for charities within his constituency of Great Yarmouth. (28:13):
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Richard Taylor: And I've been following Rupert and I've spoken to him as well across social (28:17):
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Richard Taylor: media. And I have nothing but admiration for the man. He seems very principled. (28:22):
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Richard Taylor: He's very honest. He seems to be the kind of politician that I want to represent (28:27):
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Richard Taylor: me if I was in his constituency. (28:32):
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Richard Taylor: One of the striking things for me, however, is the lack of engagement from reform. (28:36):
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Richard Taylor: Now, obviously, they did a dirty on Rupert Lowe, made all kinds of spurious (28:41):
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Richard Taylor: allegations, and they were unfounded. (28:46):
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Richard Taylor: And obviously, that ended in him becoming an independent. (28:49):
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Richard Taylor: She's very close to, of course, our party leader, Ben Abib, and the Banshee (28:55):
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Richard Taylor: of K. They talk regularly. (28:58):
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Richard Taylor: I think that with Restore Brittany's set-up now, which is a press group, (29:01):
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Richard Taylor: which you know about, I know you've covered some of that story. (29:04):
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Richard Taylor: I think with Rupert and what he's trying to do, it's kind of, (29:06):
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Richard Taylor: for me, and this is one of the reasons why I left the Reform Party, actually. (29:11):
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Richard Taylor: I'll come back to Rupert, is because they threw Tommy Robinson under the bus. (29:16):
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Richard Taylor: Nigel Farage Said some very detrimental Marks towards someone who exposed The (29:21):
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Richard Taylor: grooming gangs and so did Richard Tice Calling us that lot Well I was part of (29:26):
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Richard Taylor: that lot And I stood and believed in The reform party, (29:31):
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Richard Taylor: I mean I stood as a Candidate for them, I worked relentlessly For them, (29:35):
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Richard Taylor: you know in elections And campaigned on their behalf and believed In them, (29:39):
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Richard Taylor: but when I seen the way That they treated both Hubert Lowe (29:43):
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Richard Taylor: and of course Ben Habib and others within their party as well (29:45):
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Richard Taylor: members included i thought you know what they're not (29:48):
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Richard Taylor: as principled and they're not as morally kind of (29:51):
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Richard Taylor: um you know as they say they are and so i made (29:54):
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Richard Taylor: a decision i think it was about nine ten months ago i came up with (29:57):
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Richard Taylor: uh mayatusi's program i made that announcement that i would be leaving the party (30:00):
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Richard Taylor: based on constitutional reasons because faraj is reform and reform is faraj (30:04):
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Richard Taylor: without him there is no party he's majority shareholder and you know you can't (30:09):
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Richard Taylor: get rid of it with advanced uk we're slightly different, we are very different, we are (30:14):
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Richard Taylor: democratically run by the college, you know we can bring people in and out, (30:18):
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Richard Taylor: leaders, vet candidates etc. (30:21):
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Richard Taylor: But going back to Rupert Lowe, I have so much love and admiration for him. (30:23):
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Richard Taylor: I think he's an amazing, amazing guy. (30:27):
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Richard Taylor: And I know that, you know, there have been crossovers between ourselves, (30:30):
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Richard Taylor: Advanced UK, and Rupert. (30:34):
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Richard Taylor: So, you know, we're three, three and a half years out from the next general election. So who knows? (30:36):
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Richard Taylor: Conversations continue. But, you know, I think around the whole rape gang inquiry (30:41):
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Richard Taylor: thing, with what the work that Tommy Robinson has done, which he was vilified for, literally. (30:45):
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Richard Taylor: I mean, the mainstream media went for him. I mean, they attacked him. (30:52):
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Richard Taylor: You know, he went to jail. I mean, for something that was a civil issue, (30:56):
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Richard Taylor: it became criminal because of Lord Hamer, the Attorney General, (31:00):
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Richard Taylor: who took it upon himself to think, no, this guy's a bit of an agitator. (31:04):
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Richard Taylor: Let's, you know, slap him into prison. I mean, it's a ball rip what's happening. (31:07):
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Richard Taylor: Unless we've got Lord Hamer, he's in the back pocket of Keir Starmer anyway, (31:10):
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Richard Taylor: because he helped to get Keir Starmer elected, but contributed to his campaign to become leader. (31:13):
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Richard Taylor: Soon as Keir Starmer became leader, what does he do? He appoints his good mate, (31:18):
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Richard Taylor: Lord Hamer, as the Attorney General. (31:22):
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Richard Taylor: So if you can see through all the kind of smokey mirrors, you can see what's going on. (31:24):
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Richard Taylor: And I think with what Rupert's doing (31:28):
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Richard Taylor: and this petition, coming back to the petition, I think it's fantastic. (31:30):
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Richard Taylor: I think it's amazing. And there was recently a meeting down in London, (31:33):
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Richard Taylor: in Westminster, where he brought victims together. I don't know if you saw that. (31:38):
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Richard Taylor: But one of the notable things was, is that there wasn't a single Reform MP that (31:42):
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Richard Taylor: attended that gathering. (31:48):
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Richard Taylor: And that tells you all you need to know, given the fact that Farage had said publicly, (31:50):
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Richard Taylor: stood up in the chamber and said, we will hold a private inquiry into the grooming (31:55):
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Richard Taylor: rape gangs, you know, if the government doesn't do it, we'll raise the money to do it. (32:02):
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Richard Taylor: Did they? No, they did not. It was pure rhetoric. That's all it was. (32:06):
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Hearts of Oak: But, Rich, I think you're being a little bit unfair because Lee Anderson had to go out for a pint. (32:10):
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Hearts of Oak: I mean, he did take a picture. So he needed a drink. So come on, (32:16):
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Hearts of Oak: you're not being fair to him. He was busy. (32:20):
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Richard Taylor: Well, Lee Anderson, I know a lot of people like the way he is because he's a (32:22):
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Richard Taylor: working class bloke, just like myself. (32:27):
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Richard Taylor: I mean, I don't wear a shirt and tie just for your program because, (32:29):
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Richard Taylor: you know, trying to look important. But I am a working class bloke as well, right? (32:31):
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Richard Taylor: I understand that. But look, ultimately, you know, I think what's happening (32:35):
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Richard Taylor: with reform for me personally, you know, a party that I believed in, (32:40):
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Richard Taylor: lots of people are seeing through things and imploding. (32:44):
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Richard Taylor: If you look at the local elections, for example, they've appointed, (32:46):
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Richard Taylor: you know, and seen elected a number of councillors who are like, (32:50):
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Richard Taylor: I'll be going back to the 16 year old vote. (32:53):
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Richard Taylor: They're like youngsters at 18, 19 years of age with massive budgets. (32:55):
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Richard Taylor: You know, trying to take care of public services, you know, dealing with five (32:58):
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Richard Taylor: million pound budgets. They haven't got a clue what they're doing. (33:02):
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Richard Taylor: And they're falling by the wayside and they're imploding. And I think what we (33:04):
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Richard Taylor: will see, this is my prediction, reading the political teams, (33:07):
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Richard Taylor: I think within the next two to three years, a lot of people will start to see (33:10):
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Richard Taylor: through what's going on. (33:15):
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Richard Taylor: And look how many MPs they've had. I mean, you know, you've had James Murdoch, (33:16):
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Richard Taylor: Murdoch Goal. We've had, you know, Rupert Logo, Ben Goal. (33:19):
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Richard Taylor: You know, there's turmoil and they've only got five MPs and they're in fighting (33:22):
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Richard Taylor: already. I mean, it's just ridiculous. (33:26):
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Hearts of Oak: Well, let me hold on. Let me bring up one or two pieces on reform. (33:28):
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Hearts of Oak: Here is Dan Wooten talking about Zia Yusuf or Mohammed Zia Yusuf, (33:33):
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Hearts of Oak: because I'd like to give him his proper title. (33:40):
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Hearts of Oak: Here is a clip from him and then a couple of stories in the last yesterday and (33:43):
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Hearts of Oak: a story just out as we record this Friday afternoon that just came out. (33:48):
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Hearts of Oak: So here's a clip from the one and only Dan Wooten. (33:51):
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Richard Taylor: What exactly does Zia Yusuf have on Nigel Farage? (33:57):
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Richard Taylor: Now, that was a question being asked half in jest over the last few months. (34:01):
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Richard Taylor: But now I genuinely mean it because Yusuf's increasingly dictatorial, bullying, (34:08):
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Richard Taylor: disingenuous and downright nasty behavior is now tearing Reform UK apart internally. (34:16):
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Richard Taylor: This is not a personal view of mine, but is rather based on many conversations (34:24):
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Richard Taylor: with party insiders at all levels. (34:30):
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Richard Taylor: And now Zia's misplaced notion that he is the future Prime Minister of the United (34:34):
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Richard Taylor: Kingdom, the first Muslim Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, (34:40):
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Richard Taylor: has cost Farage his number one Tory target to join Reform UK. (34:43):
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Hearts of Oak: And let me show you just a story. Well, that was Dan giving 50 minutes. (34:51):
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Hearts of Oak: We'll not do all 50 minutes. That was just a clip. And here are two stories. (34:57):
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Hearts of Oak: Latest blow for Farage. This was Wednesday. As another prominent figure quits Reform UK. (35:01):
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Hearts of Oak: And that was Suella Braverman's husband, Raoul Braverman. (35:09):
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Hearts of Oak: He has left. I have left Reform Effective immediately. and that's because Reform (35:14):
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Hearts of Oak: said what the Braverman would not be welcome in the party and neither would Liz Truss. (35:20):
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Hearts of Oak: And then on the right, just before we recorded this, Richard, (35:25):
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Hearts of Oak: Reform Zia Yusuf apologizes for liking ex-post, attacking Robert Jennerick over Jewish wife. (35:30):
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Hearts of Oak: Very strange story. But it does look as though, (35:37):
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Hearts of Oak: maybe the house of cards that Nigel has built, that Zia has kind of taken control (35:42):
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Hearts of Oak: of somehow that maybe it's, it's beginning to fall down, but yeah, (35:49):
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Hearts of Oak: you were mentioning reform. (35:54):
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Hearts of Oak: I just wanted to bring those up because I fit it into what you were discussing. Yeah. (35:55):
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Richard Taylor: Yeah, I think, I mean, there's an apology gone out from Zia Youssef, isn't there, on X. (35:59):
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Richard Taylor: It was about three hours ago, I mean, or whatever it was, you know, (36:04):
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Richard Taylor: some time ago, you know, yesterday, saying that one of his team had posted on (36:06):
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Richard Taylor: X and it had nothing to do with him. (36:12):
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Richard Taylor: It was an accident. It was an anti-Semitic tweet for which he apologizes for. (36:16):
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Richard Taylor: And he goes on to, you know, all this kind of apology stuff. (36:22):
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Richard Taylor: And Dan Wooden has come back and said to him, who has access to your X account? (36:24):
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Richard Taylor: That would be interesting, wouldn't it? I'd like to know that. (36:28):
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Richard Taylor: But I think Hizia Yusuf has actually not been good for reform. (36:30):
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Richard Taylor: I think he came in at the start and he made a massive donation. (36:35):
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Richard Taylor: And within the political landscape, as you know, when you've got some money (36:41):
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Richard Taylor: behind you, you can buy influence. And I think what he's done, (36:44):
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Richard Taylor: he's brought himself into the party. (36:47):
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Richard Taylor: And I think he's influencing the party very strongly behind the scenes. (36:49):
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Richard Taylor: And I think it's to its own detriment. Now, I don't want to speak about his (36:53):
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Richard Taylor: religious beliefs because I don't believe that, you know, I believe in the freedom of all religion, (36:58):
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Richard Taylor: except those extremists who push their ideologies and believe that, (37:03):
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Richard Taylor: you know, their religion is the only way. (37:07):
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Richard Taylor: And, you know, if you don't agree with them, then you should be, (37:09):
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Richard Taylor: you know, gone. But that's by the by. (37:12):
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Richard Taylor: I think that Zia Yusuf has been a thorn in the side of Farage's flesh. (37:15):
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Richard Taylor: I think he has had a stick with him. Memes have no choice because, (37:21):
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Richard Taylor: if you recall, they built up this membership called the Ticker. (37:25):
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Richard Taylor: Now, I'm going to reveal something to you here, and I've never said this publicly (37:29):
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Richard Taylor: before. I was, up until, I said, nine months ago, a member of Reform. (37:32):
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Richard Taylor: I resigned my membership publicly here on the airwaves and by letter and by email. (37:37):
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Richard Taylor: But, you know, I am still on their database. They still send me emails, (37:42):
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Richard Taylor: and I assume that I'm still in number on their Ticker. (37:47):
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Richard Taylor: So when they boasts, we've got 240 plus thousand members, (37:50):
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Richard Taylor: the truth is many of those people have resigned their membership over the treatment (37:55):
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Richard Taylor: of members, over the way things have been run, over the way things Azir Youssef has said, (38:01):
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Richard Taylor: remarks Nigel has made about Tommy Robertson, the way they've treated Rupert (38:07):
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Richard Taylor: Lowe and Ben Habib and many others within the party. (38:10):
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Richard Taylor: And let's not forget, while Nigel was off the play-in field, (38:13):
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Richard Taylor: it was people like Ben Habib that kept the party going, and Gravitas and Richard Tice, who did so also. (38:17):
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Richard Taylor: And I just think that, you know, what we're seeing with Zia Youssef is this (38:22):
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Richard Taylor: character that morphs into something, you know, to try to win and garner the (38:27):
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Richard Taylor: support of the public, if you like. (38:32):
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Richard Taylor: But people are now waking up to the reality that this guy is not good for the party. (38:34):
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Richard Taylor: And the reports that are coming out that you just mentioned there, (38:39):
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Richard Taylor: And things that are being said This is a businessman He's not a politician (38:42):
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Richard Taylor: And for him to be involved in politics, that's not to say that business people can't be politicians. (38:47):
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Richard Taylor: Faraj is a businessman himself, as you know, in the cities, banking and everything else. (38:53):
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Richard Taylor: But I think Zia has made huge mistakes and it would be detrimental to the party. (38:57):
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Richard Taylor: And to be quite frank with you, I wouldn't trust the guy as far as I could throw (39:01):
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Richard Taylor: him. That's my personal opinion. I think he's infiltrated it for the Islamic votes. (39:05):
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Richard Taylor: We're seeing Faraj and Reformed move more and more towards the left side of (39:10):
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Richard Taylor: politics, gathering support there, talking about welcoming Syrian refugees into the country. (39:14):
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Richard Taylor: This isn't the Faraj, I remember, from 2016. I mean, what's happened to them? (39:21):
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Richard Taylor: Do you know what it is? They become part of the establishment. (39:26):
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Richard Taylor: And soon as they're elected, they become part of the establishment, they change. (39:28):
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Richard Taylor: And that's what sets Advance UK aside. We will not divert. (39:33):
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Richard Taylor: We will not change. We will stick to our mission of one nation, (39:37):
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Richard Taylor: freedom of speech, sovereignty, and equality in the law. (39:40):
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Richard Taylor: And we will not. We will not compromise on any of those issues. (39:43):
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Hearts of Oak: Absolutely. And certainly just in the middle of this, I want to say if people (39:48):
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Hearts of Oak: want to know what to do, well, you can join Advance UK. I joined it. Tenor, join up. (39:52):
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Hearts of Oak: Get the numbers up to the 30,000. And Ben Sadie will put it into the Electoral Commission. (39:57):
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Hearts of Oak: Back what Rupert is doing. Restore Britain. (40:03):
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Hearts of Oak: Be part of that. and make sure you're in London on the 13th of September for (40:07):
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Hearts of Oak: it's going to be the most phenomenal free speech event I've been at, (40:13):
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Hearts of Oak: and I think it will eclipse the free Tommy rallies we saw in 2016-2017. (40:20):
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Hearts of Oak: This is going to be huge. And when you've got someone like Jordan Peterson coming (40:26):
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Hearts of Oak: to speak, Jordan and Tammy Booth and many others –. (40:31):
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Richard Taylor: It's going to be a day. (40:34):
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Hearts of Oak: So put it in your diary, 13th. I know Richard will be there. I'll be there. (40:35):
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Hearts of Oak: And everybody else will be there who really cares about freedom. (40:39):
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Hearts of Oak: So those are three things you can do to the viewers and listeners to actually (40:44):
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Hearts of Oak: play your part in what's happening and not stand on the sidelines. (40:49):
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Hearts of Oak: But there are four more stories. Let's say we can do like two or three minutes (40:53):
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Hearts of Oak: each of them, which won't do justice, but we'll just touch on them. (40:58):
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Hearts of Oak: And it is this awful Dominic Grieve. (41:03):
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Hearts of Oak: UK Islamophobia definition, blasphemy, law and drag. (41:08):
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Hearts of Oak: And frustratingly, I wanted to go to the APPG on this, the all-party parliamentary (41:11):
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Hearts of Oak: group on British Muslims, Islamophobia. (41:16):
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Hearts of Oak: I wasn't able to get to it this week. But in this piece, we think it's the Times (41:20):
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Hearts of Oak: of Israel. I think it was. (41:26):
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Hearts of Oak: But if there's one thing British politicians hate more than telling the truth, (41:28):
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Hearts of Oak: It's letting anyone else do it. (41:31):
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Hearts of Oak: In the end, the UK Labour government, in what might be the most refined form (41:34):
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Hearts of Oak: of cowardice since Neville Chamberlain waved his paper in the air, (41:38):
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Hearts of Oak: has crossed the Rubicon and unveiled its grand initiative to define Islamophobia. (41:42):
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Hearts of Oak: And of course, there's a huge fear that, as it says at the top, (41:47):
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Hearts of Oak: Richard, that this is a de facto blasphemy law. (41:51):
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Hearts of Oak: And of course, you can say what you like about Christianity, (41:55):
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Hearts of Oak: and so you should be able to say what you like, because truth can defend itself. (41:57):
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Hearts of Oak: And Christianity is true, Islam seems to need these extra legal protections (42:01):
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Hearts of Oak: and it's quite worrying because you could find, (42:06):
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Hearts of Oak: Many hundreds of thousands of us all locked up in jail because Islam does seem (42:10):
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Hearts of Oak: to take offense more easily than any other religious belief. (42:17):
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Richard Taylor: Absolutely. And we've seen Christian, you know, evangelical preachers arrested (42:21):
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Richard Taylor: on the streets recently across social media, Peter. (42:25):
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Richard Taylor: And it's quite concerning considering we go back to the start of our conversation (42:29):
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Richard Taylor: about being a Christian nation and our heritage and our culture and everything (42:32):
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Richard Taylor: else. And as Christians, we're tolerant, you know, we accept of religions. (42:36):
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Richard Taylor: But I think when they're given preference, preferential treatment, (42:41):
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Richard Taylor: because they classed as a minority (42:44):
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Richard Taylor: group in the country, actually they're not, they grew up very fast. (42:47):
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Richard Taylor: And you look at some of our main cities like Birmingham and Manchester and Liverpool, (42:50):
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Richard Taylor: and it's quite concerning really because Islamophobia doesn't exist. (42:54):
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Richard Taylor: It is not just work, not just thing, in my opinion, you know, (42:59):
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Richard Taylor: the right to offend is your right as a human being. (43:01):
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Richard Taylor: You know, if someone wants to offend me, that's fine You know, (43:04):
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Richard Taylor: it's your human right You can offend me Whatever I do with that, (43:08):
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Richard Taylor: that's my choice But I think when it comes to the whole debate Around Christianity (43:12):
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Richard Taylor: and other religions It seems as if the government are very keen On making Islam (43:17):
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Richard Taylor: some kind of virtue-signant Kind of religious organization That if you attack (43:23):
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Richard Taylor: them Then, you know, we've got great issues I mean, (43:29):
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Richard Taylor: take for example Jeremy Corbyn We're looking at the party that he's setting up. (43:31):
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Richard Taylor: We have within parliament right now a Palestinian group, if you like, (43:35):
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Richard Taylor: that's what I'd call them, Jezbollah, I'd call them, is a new party that he's (43:38):
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Richard Taylor: going to set up with, Sultana. (43:42):
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Richard Taylor: So Corbyn and her, and they're pro-Palestinian, which is fine. (43:44):
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Richard Taylor: Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. (43:48):
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Richard Taylor: But the issue that I have is that these groups are given preferential treatment (43:49):
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Richard Taylor: because if you speak against them, you are demonized. (43:54):
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Richard Taylor: You are called all kinds of things, Islamophobic and racist. (43:57):
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Richard Taylor: Here's the thing. The race card doesn't work anymore, does it? (44:03):
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Richard Taylor: Neither does the left or the right, because we've argued as Advanced UK, (44:06):
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Richard Taylor: we're not the left-wing party, we're not the right-wing party. (44:10):
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Richard Taylor: We believe in doing what's right by our nation. (44:12):
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Richard Taylor: And I think what we're seeing with these laws that are trying to push through (44:15):
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Richard Taylor: Parliament right now, it's a dereliction of duty on the government, (44:18):
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Richard Taylor: because religion should be practiced freely, without fear or favour. (44:21):
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Richard Taylor: That should be allowed to happen. But when people are prosecuted for having (44:26):
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Richard Taylor: an opinion about a religion, that is very, very dangerous ground. (44:31):
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Richard Taylor: And where that preferential treatment is shown is towards Muslims, (44:35):
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Richard Taylor: predominantly in this country. Why is that, is the question. (44:38):
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Richard Taylor: What is the agenda? What's behind it? Because, of course, as I've said, (44:42):
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Richard Taylor: we're a Christian nation. (44:46):
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Richard Taylor: You know, I'm a Christian. I've had all kinds of things said about me. (44:47):
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Richard Taylor: Mind you, I'm not the perfect Christian. I don't think there is such a thing, (44:52):
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Richard Taylor: right? So just for the record, I have to go to my good friend, (44:54):
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Richard Taylor: the bishop, called Bishop Kai for absolution of my sins on a regular basis. (44:57):
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Richard Taylor: But that aside, you know, why is it that, you know, Islam is being kind of elevated (45:02):
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Richard Taylor: to a position that it should not be? (45:10):
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Richard Taylor: Is it because we want to appease, you know, a certain group within our communities (45:13):
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Richard Taylor: because we're afraid of the civil unrest that it would cause? (45:17):
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Richard Taylor: But we're already seeing that civil unrest because of things like Sharia courts (45:21):
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Richard Taylor: that we have in our country that should not exist because they are not legally binding. (45:26):
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Richard Taylor: We have our own laws, but yet they have separate laws. (45:32):
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Richard Taylor: The arranged marriages, all these things that they push out there, (45:36):
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Richard Taylor: these are against British law. (45:41):
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Richard Taylor: But yet, you know, we're supposed to, you know, bend the knee or take the knee (45:44):
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Richard Taylor: as Keir Starmer did with BLM and everything else and bow the knee to these kind of, (45:48):
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Richard Taylor: you know, these people who think that we should treat a certain religion with (45:53):
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Richard Taylor: more respect than we do our own religion, which is a Christian nation. (45:57):
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Hearts of Oak: Sadly, Nigel is afraid of engaging with this issue, which is another problem (46:01):
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Hearts of Oak: that we all have with reform. (46:06):
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Hearts of Oak: The big story of the week was this, and let's touch on this. (46:09):
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Hearts of Oak: The secret airlift revealed after the Dilly Mills two-year battle against a super injunction, (46:15):
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Hearts of Oak: the government's $7 billion secret airlift as 18,500 Afghans are brought to Britain. There is that. (46:21):
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Hearts of Oak: And then the, I think the debate in parliament, let's bring this up. (46:31):
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Hearts of Oak: And yeah, so again, Chris Rose, new backbench MP asked the PM about the Afghan (46:42):
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Hearts of Oak: resettlement scheme or the cover up of PMQ's Prime Minister Question Times at (46:49):
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Hearts of Oak: lunchtime on Wednesday. (46:54):
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Hearts of Oak: Instead we had some MP ranting about Palestine It seems though MPs are completely (46:56):
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Hearts of Oak: out of touch 7 billion, we're never supposed to know We do know, (47:02):
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Hearts of Oak: they don't even talk about it It seems though they think we're irrelevant, Richard. (47:07):
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Richard Taylor: Yeah, I mean, the frightening thing about all this is, I mean, (47:12):
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Richard Taylor: I was listening to this story very closely with this leak. (47:14):
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Richard Taylor: I mean, one of the things that struck me, they had a lawyer on representing (47:18):
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Richard Taylor: the Afghans that have been brought over here under this rubric injunction. (47:22):
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Richard Taylor: And they're talking about compensation numbering five figures. (47:27):
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Richard Taylor: We're talking billions of pounds. And some of these have actually gone back (47:31):
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Richard Taylor: to Afghanistan. Now, we'll come to, you know, the kind of Secret Service because (47:36):
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Richard Taylor: they've been exposed as well on a database leak. That happened last year as well, if you remember. (47:40):
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Richard Taylor: It's happened before, and the MOD. But I think what we're seeing here is we've (47:45):
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Richard Taylor: got these lawyers now that are looking for compensation. We're talking billions of pounds. (47:49):
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Richard Taylor: This is taxpayers' money over a government absolute screw-up. (47:55):
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Richard Taylor: This was under Ben Wallace's watch. Now, I have to say this, (48:00):
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Richard Taylor: to caveat this, because it's very important. (48:03):
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Richard Taylor: I was a big fan of Ben Wallace. I thought because he served our country and (48:04):
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Richard Taylor: he spoke things, I think, when Boris was, his leadership kind of thing was under threat. (48:09):
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Richard Taylor: I mean, I saw Ben Wallace as a potential. I mean, that's how nuts I am, right? (48:15):
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Richard Taylor: He spoke sense because he believed in our country. He seemed to hold the values. (48:20):
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Richard Taylor: But when you look at what he's done and what's happened over these breaches (48:23):
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Richard Taylor: that has caused this kind of, you know, (48:27):
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Richard Taylor: Furore of not just people being compensated, the government having to pay off (48:30):
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Richard Taylor: billions, but the threat to people's lives as well, including those servicemen (48:34):
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Richard Taylor: and women in our country whose details have been released also. (48:39):
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Richard Taylor: Now, who's going to be held account for this, is my question. (48:44):
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Richard Taylor: You know, it seems as if this has been pushed to one side. It's a major, major news story. (48:49):
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Richard Taylor: Mainstream media have given a little bit of coverage, let's be quite frank, (48:54):
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Richard Taylor: but this is serious this is so serious and we're talking about I mean I understand (48:57):
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Richard Taylor: we withdrew people from Afghanistan that were serving there on behalf of the (49:03):
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Richard Taylor: British government in different capacities and roads I get that it's not that I'm oblivious to that (49:06):
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Richard Taylor: But now we have an Islamic lawyer, I think his name is Adnan, (49:11):
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Richard Taylor: the group that you can get on, it's on my Twitter post, I posted this morning (49:16):
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Richard Taylor: actually in a video with him as well, talking about compensating those whose (49:20):
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Richard Taylor: personal details have been breached to the sum of five figures for each individual. (49:25):
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Richard Taylor: I mean, it's absolutely extraordinary we got to this place. (49:31):
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Richard Taylor: And I think those who are responsible, you know what will happen, (49:35):
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Richard Taylor: Paul, It'll go before an inquiry. It'll be years and years and years. (49:39):
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Richard Taylor: And before, you know, people forget about it. Nothing's done about it. (49:43):
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Richard Taylor: It's appalling that our judicial system is that poor and that weak. (49:47):
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Richard Taylor: When breaches like this are made, people should be arrested, (49:50):
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Richard Taylor: should stand before their peers, be judged. (49:54):
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Richard Taylor: And subsequently, if found guilty, they should be convicted and put into prison. (49:57):
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Richard Taylor: I mean, I sound like a dictator, but that's the reality. (50:02):
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Richard Taylor: That's what should happen. But it does not happen because they've ring-fenced (50:06):
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Richard Taylor: themselves and protected themselves using parliamentary kind of procedures that (50:09):
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Richard Taylor: they've got to say, well, you know, we couldn't say anything. (50:14):
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Richard Taylor: But what about these super injunctions? (50:17):
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Richard Taylor: How many more super injunctions are there? How much more is there information (50:19):
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Richard Taylor: out there that we don't know about that the government are hiding from us? (50:23):
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Richard Taylor: I mean, I'd be interested to know because I don't believe a single word that (50:26):
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Richard Taylor: this government tells us. I have no faith in them whatsoever. (50:29):
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Richard Taylor: And that's, again, another reason why I've been pushing it past UK. (50:32):
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Hearts of Oak: That's true. and super injunctions, we're not supposed to know about the super injunctions. (50:36):
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Hearts of Oak: We're not allowed to talk about not knowing about the super injunctions and (50:40):
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Hearts of Oak: it's like Fight Club. You're not allowed to talk about it. (50:43):
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Hearts of Oak: But so much on the immigration side and obviously what happened in Epping, (50:46):
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Hearts of Oak: that's a whole other side and I haven't even got that up, but Adam Brooks has (50:55):
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Hearts of Oak: done a fantastic job covering that. (51:00):
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Hearts of Oak: So make sure and follow Adam Brooks in highlighting that. (51:02):
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Hearts of Oak: But here are two stories. We'll just touch on each of them. (51:07):
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Hearts of Oak: This is two-tier, two-tier care, two-tier Britain system. (51:10):
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Hearts of Oak: And this Alison Pearson, probably (51:15):
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Hearts of Oak: the greatest mainstream journalist we have on the UK at the moment. (51:17):
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Hearts of Oak: Fearless. And this is Alison Pearson saying, Lucy Connolly was denied bail. (51:23):
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Hearts of Oak: She tweeted in jail 30 months, doesn't get bail. (51:28):
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Hearts of Oak: But Kashir Bashir was granted bail, now missing. He was convicted of child rape. (51:32):
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Hearts of Oak: Three others in child rape charges also got bail. So a woman tweeting is more (51:38):
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Hearts of Oak: of a risk to the public than a rapist. This is two-tier justice. (51:44):
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Hearts of Oak: To me, actually, there's no other. (51:48):
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Hearts of Oak: It's a perfect example, sadly depressing example, of where we are in the UK. (51:51):
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Richard Taylor: I mean, this is one of the things that really gets me really angry and makes (51:57):
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Richard Taylor: me lose my, I don't know if I can swear on this channel, but it makes me lose my shit, (52:02):
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Richard Taylor: literally, because I think that what we've seen with our judicial system is beyond two-tiered. (52:05):
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Richard Taylor: It's multi-layered, and the cover-ups and the scandals around it, (52:12):
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Richard Taylor: when you consider that Lucy Conley is a mother of children, posting something (52:17):
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Richard Taylor: on social media, which she later took down and apologised for and everything (52:21):
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Richard Taylor: else, is still languishing in a prison cell. (52:24):
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Richard Taylor: And we've got rapists and paedophiles Who walk freely from our courts Because (52:26):
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Richard Taylor: left-wing progressive judges Paid off Some of them are Freemasons as well They're (52:32):
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Richard Taylor: all part of it And they just let Scott free Take Hugh Edwards, (52:37):
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Richard Taylor: perfect example Someone from my local area here in Llanethi (52:40):
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Richard Taylor: You know, he was found with child pornography on his laptop He goes to court, (52:44):
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Richard Taylor: kicked out I mean, there are countless stories of people Not just from the Islamic (52:48):
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Richard Taylor: faith As you've just pointed to this story here But even, you know, (52:53):
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Richard Taylor: white British Caucasian citizens as well. (52:57):
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Richard Taylor: It seems as if there's this huge cover up. And we've seen the Epstein files (52:59):
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Richard Taylor: now with Trump. It's another story together. We're going to get there tonight. We want to go into it. (53:03):
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Richard Taylor: You know, there's this cover up. And these cover ups, this is why people do (53:07):
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Richard Taylor: not have faith in our political establishment. (53:12):
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Richard Taylor: Because the political elite cover themselves in such a manner, (53:15):
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Richard Taylor: in such a way, that what they say, we don't believe anymore. (53:18):
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Richard Taylor: The people, you know, the populace, most of the people, hard-working, (53:21):
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Richard Taylor: ordinary citizens of this country cannot trust politicians because we hear stories (53:25):
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Richard Taylor: like this on a daily basis. (53:29):
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Richard Taylor: This is a poor woman. You take Peter Lynch, for example. (53:31):
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Richard Taylor: If you remember, he sadly took his own life because he couldn't cope with the (53:34):
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Richard Taylor: prison, being in prison, for speaking out and, you know, freedom of speech. (53:39):
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Richard Taylor: And yet we've got pedophiles Horrific, committing heinous crimes (53:44):
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Richard Taylor: Who are allowed to walk our streets We don't deport them We've got foreign criminals (53:49):
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Richard Taylor: in this country Oh, don't get me on this We've got foreign criminals in this (53:52):
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Richard Taylor: country In our prisons costing between 41 to 50 grand a year Taxpayers' money (53:55):
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Richard Taylor: to keep them in our prisons When the first institution should be (54:00):
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Richard Taylor: Deport them Send them back and let them get justice in their own country And (54:03):
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Richard Taylor: if that is whatever they face over there Because obviously their laws are different (54:07):
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Richard Taylor: Then let it be so Why are we paying to keep these people in our country? (54:10):
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Richard Taylor: Because we're keeping them safe We're protecting them from real, (54:15):
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Richard Taylor: real justice And it really, really annoys me It gets me so angry That these (54:17):
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Richard Taylor: people are allowed to get away with this Because it should not be happening And you know what? (54:22):
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Richard Taylor: I blame this government I blame Keir Starmer I blame his cabinet I blame the (54:27):
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Richard Taylor: Justice Secretary I blame the Home Secretary It's their fault David Lammy Don't (54:33):
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Richard Taylor: give a stat on David Lammy All of them They are responsible for this and they (54:37):
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Richard Taylor: should be prosecuted but the way things were set up, (54:41):
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Richard Taylor: we call it democracy is it real democracy that we have in this country? (54:46):
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Richard Taylor: Because if they were in an employed job and took certain actions they're doing (54:50):
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Richard Taylor: now, they'd be sacked they'd be fired, they would be they'd be arrested it's (54:54):
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Richard Taylor: as simple as that but I get so annoyed when I hear these stories Peter, (54:59):
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Richard Taylor: as you can probably tell, because (55:03):
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Richard Taylor: There are victims involved and often the victims Yeah. (55:05):
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Richard Taylor: They don't get looked at. They become as if they're the perpetrators. (55:10):
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Richard Taylor: No, they're not. These are real victims. They're people's lives being destroyed (55:16):
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Richard Taylor: because of idiots in Parliament and idiots within our judicial system who want (55:21):
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Richard Taylor: to protect these evil monsters because that's what they are. (55:27):
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Richard Taylor: And I think with us as a party, Advance UK, I know for a fact, (55:32):
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Richard Taylor: having spoken in length on these issues with Ben and the rest of our team, (55:38):
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Richard Taylor: that these are the things that we will come down heavily upon. (55:42):
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Richard Taylor: We will deport foreign criminals. They do not belong in our country. (55:46):
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Richard Taylor: I mean, I think Rupert Lowe has echoed those sentiments also. (55:49):
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Richard Taylor: Because why are we doing this? There are 15,000 foreign nationals in our prison systems. (55:52):
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Richard Taylor: And yet our prisons are overcrowded. It's one of my specialties. (55:58):
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Richard Taylor: I worked in rehabilitation in prisons for many, many years. I know a lot about (56:00):
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Richard Taylor: resettlement rehabilitation. (56:03):
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Richard Taylor: I'm rehabilitating myself so I understand it but these (56:05):
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Richard Taylor: are people that are taking off a taxpayer and we're (56:08):
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Richard Taylor: giving them somewhere to live it might be a prison but (56:11):
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Richard Taylor: have you seen how nice our prisons are these days compared to (56:14):
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Richard Taylor: when I was a lot younger it's completely different so I (56:16):
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Richard Taylor: do think this is a story that you know needs highlighting (56:20):
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Richard Taylor: but it's happening daily Peter we're seeing (56:23):
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Richard Taylor: this and you know people get really annoyed about (56:25):
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Richard Taylor: it I was going to say something else I'm really annoyed about it i mean my mom god (56:29):
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Richard Taylor: bless her she's in the 70s and every time she's only (56:32):
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Richard Taylor: going into politics because of me because i watch everything on tv with her not (56:34):
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Richard Taylor: just mainstream media and uh she's written (56:37):
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Richard Taylor: poems about kia starmer she's done all kinds of things and she's non-political (56:40):
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Richard Taylor: but she's waking up but she said richard why are they doing this why is our (56:45):
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Richard Taylor: government doing this why is this happening why is that happening and i think (56:48):
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Richard Taylor: it's a fact that a lot of people are ignorant or they bury their hand their (56:52):
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Richard Taylor: head in the cement not the sand because they don't want it. (56:55):
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Richard Taylor: But we must get involved. We must speak out. We must attend these rallies. (56:58):
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Richard Taylor: We must protest. There is power. (57:02):
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Richard Taylor: There is people power. We can make a difference. And I think, (57:05):
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Richard Taylor: you know, to stand by and say nothing is the worst thing, because that's when evil prospers. (57:08):
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Richard Taylor: And I think men like this man you mentioned in this latest report, (57:12):
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Richard Taylor: there's been many others as well, Peter. You know, these are people... (57:16):
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Richard Taylor: I would advocate for castration. I mean, that's my opinion. You know, (57:19):
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Richard Taylor: it's a personal opinion. (57:23):
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Richard Taylor: Castration, I'm a bit of a thatcher when it comes to certain penalties as well. (57:24):
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Richard Taylor: You know, should we bring back the death penalty? But that's not all there because (57:29):
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Richard Taylor: of the Christian element. I get all that. (57:32):
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Richard Taylor: I have my own position on that as well. But for certain crimes, (57:34):
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Richard Taylor: when it comes to children and the elderly, I think they should be treated proportionately (57:37):
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Richard Taylor: in line with what they've done. (57:42):
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Richard Taylor: And I think we're not seeing that happen. We're seeing people walk (57:46):
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Richard Taylor: away from our courts Walk away free Giving suspended sentences (57:49):
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Richard Taylor: For example For assaulting and (57:52):
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Richard Taylor: sexually assaulting young children Or having pornographic images (57:57):
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Richard Taylor: Of minors on their computer And they're walking free I mean what is going on (58:00):
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Richard Taylor: They're teaching this stuff in our schools Look at the RSE curriculum They're (58:05):
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Richard Taylor: teaching young children About masturbation About touching themselves What on (58:09):
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Richard Taylor: earth are we doing to our children They should be pure and innocent (58:15):
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Richard Taylor: Not indoctrinated with this kind of stuff And so, you know, I know certainly (58:19):
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Richard Taylor: from my point of view These are some of the values that I hold dear to my heart (58:23):
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Richard Taylor: I will fight against As long as I've got breath in my lungs Oh, (58:26):
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Hearts of Oak: Absolutely, (58:30):
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Hearts of Oak: And we I'll just bring up this picture With no time to discuss it But we'll (58:33):
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Hearts of Oak: bring up this picture And that's where we are whenever, (58:37):
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Hearts of Oak: School pupils get sent home for wearing a dress And this is the real mystery (58:41):
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Hearts of Oak: about the girl in the Union Jack Dress. And this was just a great title. (58:46):
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Hearts of Oak: Sent home from school for celebrating her own culture. What was a poor girl (58:49):
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Hearts of Oak: supposed to wear? A sari? A burka? A grass skirt? (58:53):
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Hearts of Oak: Interesting question. Rhetorical. (58:57):
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