The Week According to. . . David Vance

In this episode, I engage with David Vance to analyze UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer's inadequate response to the migrant crisis, highlighting the implications for British identity and sovereignty. Vance discusses the demographic shifts indicated by the rising popularity of the name Muhammad, warning of a transformed Britain by 2063.

We critique the Online Safety Act’s potential threats to free speech and personal privacy, and examine media misreporting of migrant-related crimes. Vance also draws parallels to US immigration policies, calling them "civilizational suicide." We wrap up by discussing super injunctions and the need for transparency in governance, urging listeners to consider the broader impact of these pressing issues.

Connect with David... WEBSITE           davidvance.net 𝕏                        x.com/DVATW SUBSTACK        thedavidvance.substack.com PODCAST         vancedavidatw.podbean.com

 

Connect with Hearts of Oak... 𝕏                         x.com/HeartsofOakUK WEBSITE            heartsofoak.org/ PODCASTS        heartsofoak.podbean.com/ SOCIAL MEDIA  heartsofoak.org/connect/ SHOP                  heartsofoak.org/shop/

*Special thanks to Bosch Fawstin for recording our intro/outro on this podcast.

Check out his art theboschfawstinstore.blogspot.com and follow him on 𝕏 x.com/TheBoschFawstin

 

Episode Transcript

Hearts of Oak: And hello, Hearts of Oak. Thanks so much for joining us once again. (00:23):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And we have David Vance back with us, giving us his wisdom on the last week's (00:26):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: news. David, thanks so much for your time as always. (00:32):
undefined

David Vance: Yeah, as always, it's a pleasure to be here with you, Peter. Thanks for having me. (00:34):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Not always, always good to have you. And we'll get on the first one, (00:38):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: which is smashing the boots. (00:42):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Now, my thoughts on this were the only thing that David Stormer has, (00:45):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: or David Stormer? Keir Stormer, sorry, putting your name into him, (00:49):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: the only thing he has smashed is actually British identity. Proof that Stormer (00:54):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: smashed a gang's campaign as a joke. (00:58):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Small boat migrant tally hit 25,000 in record time. (01:00):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: We were told that we would be able to assess him on his ability to smash these gangs. (01:07):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: It seems to be an abject failure. (01:14):
undefined

David Vance: Well, first of all, to go back to your thing about David Stormer, (01:16):
undefined

David Vance: the reason for that is because how did you see the other story that the Christian (01:20):
undefined

David Vance: name care is so unpopular that apparently in the past 12 months, (01:26):
undefined

David Vance: nobody has called their child care. (01:31):
undefined

David Vance: So maybe there's a reason for that one, Peter, but on the point of substance (01:33):
undefined

David Vance: point, yeah, so 25,000, just over 25,000 this year to date, that's a record. (01:38):
undefined

David Vance: So complete failure from Stormer, absolute failure. (01:45):
undefined

David Vance: And, you know, it just demonstrates to me that what he's done is, (01:48):
undefined

David Vance: it's all rhetoric with him, hollow rhetoric, all this nonsense about going to (01:53):
undefined

David Vance: smash the gangs. I actually, I did a podcast last night. (01:56):
undefined

David Vance: One of the guys who regularly phones (02:00):
undefined

David Vance: in, he does a great Sir Keir Stormer impersonation. It's really good. (02:02):
undefined

David Vance: And I always love to hear it because he actually sounds more human than even Keir Stormer. (02:06):
undefined

David Vance: He's failed to stop the boats, he's failed to smash the gangs, (02:12):
undefined

David Vance: he's smashed our borders, he's smashing our country, and you know my thinking (02:16):
undefined

David Vance: is that's 25,000 year to date, right, so by the end of the year, (02:22):
undefined

David Vance: I'm sure you're looking at 40,000 to 50,000. (02:27):
undefined

David Vance: Another four years of that, Peter, you add it all together by the time of the (02:30):
undefined

David Vance: next election that's over a quarter of a million. (02:33):
undefined

David Vance: Yeah. That is not sustainable. Like (02:37):
undefined

David Vance: it's seriousness because you know that's that's (02:40):
undefined

David Vance: a massive massive problem and he was the guy as you say (02:43):
undefined

David Vance: came to power told us judge me on what i do he (02:46):
undefined

David Vance: knocked this the conservatives pretty stupid rwanda scheme on the head and replaced (02:49):
undefined

David Vance: it with something if you give if that's possible something worse which is what (02:54):
undefined

David Vance: this is because he's not stopping anything there's no deterrence apart from (02:59):
undefined

David Vance: the little deal he and macron have worked out which as you know is insane because (03:03):
undefined

David Vance: it's one in one out so we get a migrant, (03:07):
undefined

David Vance: and we sent back a migrant. So the levels never drop, ever. (03:10):
undefined

David Vance: You know, this guy, I think I'm undecided. Is he gaslighting us because he thinks we're stupid? (03:14):
undefined

David Vance: Or does he actually believe of the stuff that he says? (03:22):
undefined

David Vance: I don't know. I really don't know. All I know is the UK can't afford 250,000 (03:25):
undefined

David Vance: cross-channel invaders to give them their correct title. (03:31):
undefined

David Vance: All illegals. They all broke the law to come into our country. (03:34):
undefined

David Vance: And I mean the one good thing I saw Rupert Lowe said this in the past day or (03:38):
undefined

David Vance: so it's a good point the word deport is now regularly used across the well on the centre right anyway, (03:41):
undefined

David Vance: and I want to see every one of them deported but I mean where did they go Wednesday (03:50):
undefined

David Vance: so Wednesday of this week 900 arrived Peter at Dover. (03:55):
undefined

David Vance: 900 is a big and then also I don't know if you saw the video clips I've seen (04:01):
undefined

David Vance: some of the video clips of when these migrants actually do arrive on the shore (04:06):
undefined

David Vance: they jump down and they praise Allah so they're showing, (04:11):
undefined

David Vance: where their loyalty lies when they arrive so my thinking is well if they want (04:16):
undefined

David Vance: to praise Allah that's fine stick them in the dinghy turn it around send them (04:22):
undefined

David Vance: back and Allah will make sure that they get back to France shouldn't be our (04:26):
undefined

David Vance: problem But Stormer ain't doing a thing to stop it. (04:29):
undefined

David Vance: He isn't. And there have been lots of demonstrations outside hotels. (04:33):
undefined

David Vance: Here's a clip of one of them. We'll not, (04:36):
undefined

David Vance: UK. Oh, my God, get on! Stand there, hold! Stand there, hold! (04:42):
undefined

David Vance: Stand there, hold! This lady just wants to be safe. Stand there, (04:48):
undefined

David Vance: hold! Stand there, hold! (04:51):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: This lady just wants to be safe. (04:53):
undefined

David Vance: Oh, my God. (05:11):
undefined

David Vance: Yeah. (05:25):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And it goes on but the whole thing we were never actually (05:25):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: asked whether we want our society to be utterly changed. (05:29):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And there seems to be this rising anger. We saw October last year, (05:33):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: or August last year, and the police and the government forced that down, stared it down. (05:37):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: It seems to be rising again with anger at all these migrant hotels. (05:45):
undefined

David Vance: It absolutely is. Although, do you realise by the very act of you showing that, (05:50):
undefined

David Vance: you could invoke the wrath of the spy unit in Whitehall No. (05:55):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: You sent it to me, David. You sent it to me. (05:59):
undefined

David Vance: Absolutely not. And also, I mean, the thing about it is, I think the government's (06:02):
undefined

David Vance: decided, Peter, that they can't stop the migrants coming. (06:06):
undefined

David Vance: But they want to stop us seeing the natural protests, which you just showed (06:10):
undefined

David Vance: there, Peter, of ordinary Brits basically saying enough. (06:16):
undefined

David Vance: And I'm sure we both and viewers will know this. (06:20):
undefined

David Vance: I mean, this weekend, there's lots of protests. the (06:24):
undefined

David Vance: length and breadth of the uk against these migrant hotels (06:27):
undefined

David Vance: and the government just wants to basically say well (06:30):
undefined

David Vance: to x and other platforms don't show it it's not helpful or you could be in breach (06:33):
undefined

David Vance: of you know our online safety act and and so that seems to be their their strategy (06:38):
undefined

David Vance: and it's it does mimic almost to the day peter a year ago here we are you know (06:43):
undefined

David Vance: um beginning of october august and And it was August last year when, you know, (06:48):
undefined

David Vance: the Stormer showed his two-tier care and the two-tier policing and the two-tier bloods of justice. (06:53):
undefined

David Vance: And a year on, it's not gone away. If anything, it's coming back because we (07:00):
undefined

David Vance: got to see the protests last year. (07:04):
undefined

David Vance: They want to stop us showing them. Why would they do that? I ask you. (07:07):
undefined

David Vance: Why would they want to stop it? Because they're authoritarian thugs and they (07:12):
undefined

David Vance: hate the notion that ordinary British people mightn't be happy. (07:16):
undefined

David Vance: But there is a caveat I wanted to say this Because I just want to get this out (07:20):
undefined

David Vance: there The whole thing is Migrant hotels Close them down Empty them Right Okay. (07:23):
undefined

David Vance: I'm good with that. They should never have been opened in the first place. (07:29):
undefined

David Vance: The worry is that the government keeps talking about and is using Circle to (07:32):
undefined

David Vance: use these HMOs, houses of multiple occupancy, to spread them. (07:38):
undefined

David Vance: And so, in a way, if they spread the thousands of them in hotels into HMOs, (07:43):
undefined

David Vance: you're going to get arguably tens of thousands of these illegal invaders in all our communities. (07:50):
undefined

David Vance: You know it's not just there's a hotel near you (07:57):
undefined

David Vance: there could be the house next door it could be an hmo so it (08:00):
undefined

David Vance: you know it is worrying but either which way all (08:03):
undefined

David Vance: these hotels should be closed but no hmos should be allowed but of course stormer (08:06):
undefined

David Vance: intends to do both he said he'll close the hotel he'll close the hotels by 2029 (08:11):
undefined

David Vance: well he's out in 2029 so that's transparently you know uh false he won't He (08:16):
undefined

David Vance: doesn't probably intend to do anything other than just allow more of them in. (08:22):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: No, exactly. And you mentioned the baby names. (08:26):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And here's a part of that story that's maybe linked to these immigrants coming over. (08:30):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Revealed the top baby name in England and Wales with a 23% rise in Mohammed (08:37):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: as it takes number one spot for a second year in a row. (08:42):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Yes, we are at that time of the year where we talk about the release of the baby names. (08:44):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And I was actually blown away. (08:48):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And of course, it's not just the Muhammad, it's all the other spellings of Muhammad (08:52):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: are all in there further down as well. (08:56):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: But I was just blown away in the bottom left. (08:59):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: You can see Muhammad 5,700 babies, Noah 4,100. (09:01):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: So close enough to 4,000, nearly 6,000. And you look at the other ones, they're all so close. (09:06):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: I mean, Muhammad is, it is far ahead. It is like, I can barely see it. (09:13):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: It's so far ahead. And that's where we're going. (09:19):
undefined

David Vance: It is. And, you know, Peter, demography is destiny and it really is. (09:22):
undefined

David Vance: And when you look at this and it's been a feature now for a number of years, (09:27):
undefined

David Vance: that the prevalence of the name Mohammed shows you the changing nature of Britain. (09:33):
undefined

David Vance: I mean, you know, all these migrants that come here, like a tremendous number (09:40):
undefined

David Vance: of them, a number of them seem to have Mohammed as their Mohammed, blah, blah, blah. (09:43):
undefined

David Vance: And so yeah it is um it and (09:48):
undefined

David Vance: i'm sure and also i think i'm not sure if that comes from (09:51):
undefined

David Vance: the ons where that data comes from but i don't even trust (09:54):
undefined

David Vance: them i think they probably underplay it i think it's actually even worse than (09:57):
undefined

David Vance: that but even with all the flannel that they do it's still as you saw you showed (10:01):
undefined

David Vance: there peter by country mile the most popular christian name which shows that (10:05):
undefined

David Vance: Muslims are having many more babies than Brits, (10:11):
undefined

David Vance: which is why by 2063, this will no longer be a recognizable white British country, (10:16):
undefined

David Vance: which people may take views on that and say, well, that's great, (10:23):
undefined

David Vance: whatever. I personally don't. (10:27):
undefined

David Vance: I do have the opt-out. I don't think I'll be around for it, you know, (10:29):
undefined

David Vance: but there's always hope, but more than likely I won't. (10:33):
undefined

David Vance: But I'm just thinking about my kids and my grandkids, what sort of UK will they be living in? (10:36):
undefined

David Vance: If Muhammad's the most popular name, maybe Muslims will be, you know, (10:45):
undefined

David Vance: the biggest part of the population. (10:49):
undefined

David Vance: And maybe parliament will reflect that. (10:52):
undefined

David Vance: So someone said to me, by 2060, you're far more likely to get an Islamic government (10:54):
undefined

David Vance: than the British government. So it has consequences. (10:59):
undefined

David Vance: You can't deny that, you know. And it's starting, you can see it, (11:02):
undefined

David Vance: we know it because we analyze this stuff so much, you know, with the Corbyn-Sultana stuff. (11:07):
undefined

David Vance: I mean, that's a kind of Islamist-Marxist combo, and that'll be fine for a while, (11:11):
undefined

David Vance: and then they'll turn on the Marxists, (11:17):
undefined

David Vance: and it'll just be an Islamist party that has a fair chance of exercising certainly (11:20):
undefined

David Vance: control, if not governmental power, at Westminster. (11:26):
undefined

David Vance: So it's very frightening, actually, the Mohammed name. It's not just a cutesy story. (11:28):
undefined

David Vance: The only thing about that is that Mohammed's incredibly popular. (11:33):
undefined

David Vance: Keir is incredibly zero popular. So there's that. (11:39):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: But we're not allowed to talk about that because that's been banned. (11:44):
undefined

David Vance: Online safety, yeah. By the way, Peter, I should have said before we started (11:47):
undefined

David Vance: this, you didn't show me age verification for us to be able to do this. (11:52):
undefined

David Vance: I mean, you know, I'm a bit concerned. I may have to report you to Angela Rayner. (11:55):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: But that's kind of enough. We're both over 18 consenting adults, Dave, if it's all good. (11:59):
undefined

David Vance: I think so, yeah. (12:04):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: But you mentioned, Mohamed, there's another area where the name Mohamed is popping (12:05):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: up fairly regularly as well. And I don't know what this is. (12:10):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And this is the great Sammy Woodhouse doing fantastic work by herself, (12:14):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: but also with Rupert Lowe's rape gang inquiry. (12:18):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And chief of this, five men have been charged with child sex offence over alleged (12:22):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: incidents in the West Midlands and Staffordshire in the 90s. (12:26):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Mojar Ali, Mohammed Yabbar, it sounds like a Star Wars name, (12:30):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Yabbar Khan, Mohammed Nahim Khan, Mohammed Shazaz, Abdulaziz, (12:35):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: they've all been charged. (12:41):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And yeah, Mohammed there pops up. I mean, three out of five, that's quite good. (12:43):
undefined

David Vance: It is. Certainly amongst child sex offenders It seems to be a go-to name Although (12:48):
undefined

David Vance: I feel sorry for Mojer and Abdul, (12:56):
undefined

David Vance: They're outliers, obviously Also, I want to echo what (12:59):
undefined

David Vance: you just said Sammy Woodhouse is doing fantastic work (13:02):
undefined

David Vance: And I've seen it And I've also seen the fact that I think (13:05):
undefined

David Vance: I'm right in saying that One of her subtweets to something from the rape gang (13:08):
undefined

David Vance: inquiry Was actually censored It's shocking This again comes back to the same (13:15):
undefined

David Vance: thing Government won't do anything about the rape gangs But government wants (13:20):
undefined

David Vance: to stop us knowing about the rape gangs You know, so it's hideous. (13:23):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: No, they'll do anything to stop it happening. Absolutely anything. I want to bring this up. (13:27):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: I don't have it right in front of me, but I'll bring it up in a sec. (13:36):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And this is your similar name, as I called you, David Stormer. (13:39):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: But let's go with J.D. Vance. (13:47):
undefined

David Vance: I'll share that. (13:48):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Let's go with your name is in the political party, and your name is in the echelons (13:49):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: of power across three ponds. (13:53):
undefined

David Vance: That's right, yeah. (13:56):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: But it's this about, let me bring it up, about Jetty Vance. (13:57):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Europe is engaging in civilizational suicide. (14:02):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And obviously, President Trump has been over, and we'll play a few clips from him over. (14:07):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: But a great from Jetty Vance, who, of course, whenever he was over, (14:11):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: was in Munich about like two months ago. (14:18):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And he basically told them off. And he says, U.S. (14:21):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Vice President annoyed by continent's inability and unwillingness to stem flow (14:24):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: of immigration or migration. (14:32):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And it seems as though actually Vance and Trump are continually telling Europe, (14:34):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: look, this is how you need to move. (14:42):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: This is what you need to do if you want to save your continent. (14:44):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: But yeah, obviously he doesn't hold back. Neither of them do. (14:49):
undefined

David Vance: No, he doesn't. And as you actually said, Peter, rightly, he's actually reflecting (14:52):
undefined

David Vance: something that President Trump said, you know, earlier on this week when he was in Scotland. (14:57):
undefined

David Vance: But this civilizational suicide, and he's mentioning it in connection, (15:02):
undefined

David Vance: particularly to Germany, because he singles out Germany, (15:06):
undefined

David Vance: which is quite right, because it was Angela Merkel back in 2015, (15:10):
undefined

David Vance: who opened the gates of hell, frankly, and they all poured in, (15:13):
undefined

David Vance: the millions came in, And that has not has continued to varying degrees ever since. (15:17):
undefined

David Vance: So I think J.D. Vance is right to point out that Europe is destroying. (15:22):
undefined

David Vance: It is committing suicide. It really is. The demographics. We've talked about (15:27):
undefined

David Vance: the, you know, the UK, but you could talk about France, Germany. (15:31):
undefined

David Vance: You pick your country and they're all kind of similar. (15:34):
undefined

David Vance: And he sees and I, you know, obviously President Trump and J.D. (15:37):
undefined

David Vance: Vance have presided over more or less the closure of the southern border with (15:42):
undefined

David Vance: Mexico. so there's like nobody coming in meanwhile in Europe it's like they (15:46):
undefined

David Vance: don't want to even stop them so J.D. (15:52):
undefined

David Vance: Vance did criticise him at the Munich Security Conference he's returned to the (15:55):
undefined

David Vance: theme and it's something that gives me sort of hope insofar as I think there's (15:58):
undefined

David Vance: a great chance he could be president in 2028. (16:03):
undefined

David Vance: I do want to live to see a President Vance at which point I can then depart (16:06):
undefined

David Vance: stage left but if he does then and he's so on the money in this. He gets it, Peter. (16:10):
undefined

David Vance: A lot of US politicians don't get it. J.D. does, and he's young. (16:17):
undefined

David Vance: I think he's 40 or something, so he's of an age where he fully understands the (16:23):
undefined

David Vance: issues, and it was great to see him once again, (16:28):
undefined

David Vance: call out uh the you know the europeans him and trump are doing their best but (16:31):
undefined

David Vance: ultimately you know like can anyone talk down the european european leaders (16:36):
undefined

David Vance: from the roof before they jump us up jump us off i'm not sure. (16:41):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: No no no i can't no here here's (16:45):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: a uk and there are as you (16:48):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: can guess when you look at david's feed that (16:51):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: he puts a lot he he doesn't he doesn't sleep (16:54):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: he just basically does this morning tonight so there's (16:57):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: a lot and i wanted to give a widespread um especially (17:01):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: for our u.s audience may not have seen this this is a (17:06):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: a uk story about super injunctions that (17:09):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: maybe the u.s audience may not have seen um (17:12):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: and not know but this is labor locks down (17:15):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: super injunction details and they're refusing to (17:18):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: say how many super injunctions there are um and (17:21):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: this is of course with spending 7 billion bringing over a ton of afghans 23 (17:25):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: 000 of which they can bring over 22 members of their family so do the maths (17:29):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: but did you want to just mention what a super injunction is and and why this (17:34):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: is a huge concern for us in the uk and possibly in other countries (17:38):
undefined

David Vance: A super injunction peter is a (17:42):
undefined

David Vance: particularly a nasty legal (17:45):
undefined

David Vance: instrument because a super injunction once it's (17:49):
undefined

David Vance: been taken out and it has to go through a certain process (17:52):
undefined

David Vance: to be taken out but what it means is not only (17:55):
undefined

David Vance: are you not allowed to talk about whatever the (17:58):
undefined

David Vance: thing is but you're not allowed to even mention (18:01):
undefined

David Vance: the fact that the thing exists so it's it's (18:04):
undefined

David Vance: it's it's just total foreboding and and (18:07):
undefined

David Vance: they exist and uh i'm aware of a couple in northern ireland context i'm aware (18:10):
undefined

David Vance: of uh but i believe that there are many more or certainly some more in a broader UK perspective and they (18:18):
undefined

David Vance: may they may well see we don't know what they are, (18:28):
undefined

David Vance: Right. Technically, we don't know what they are. And we're certainly not allowed (18:31):
undefined

David Vance: to talk about them, because if we do, we're in grave legal trouble. (18:35):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And we're not even allowed to know they exist. (18:40):
undefined

David Vance: Except they do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're not allowed, but we're not allowed to know that. (18:42):
undefined

David Vance: And that's why the press in the UK, and this is for American viewers, (18:47):
undefined

David Vance: Peter, the press in the UK are instantly, I don't want to be fair to the press (18:52):
undefined

David Vance: because I despise the press, But they are legally handicapped. (18:58):
undefined

David Vance: They cannot even talk about the prospect that there may be something. (19:02):
undefined

David Vance: If they do, they're in great trouble. But I think they do exist. They shouldn't exist. (19:06):
undefined

David Vance: It's wrong to have this degree of secrecy. I mean, what happened to transparent (19:11):
undefined

David Vance: government? Well, we have none. (19:15):
undefined

David Vance: Instead, we've got degrees of covertness and trying to hide stuff away from (19:16):
undefined

David Vance: the British people. And that's wrong. (19:22):
undefined

David Vance: But that is what a super injunction is such a... I don't even understand how (19:24):
undefined

David Vance: it originated, which judges decided this was a good idea. (19:29):
undefined

David Vance: And, you know, but the politicians know that the benefit of it is that it hides the issue. (19:34):
undefined

David Vance: It's for the political class and the very wealthy. (19:40):
undefined

David Vance: I think to take one out costs about, I mean, figures I've heard, (19:44):
undefined

David Vance: certainly about three, four, five hundred thousand is what it costs. (19:48):
undefined

David Vance: And then that's renewed every year. So, you know, so it's for the wealthy. (19:52):
undefined

David Vance: And they keep the little secrets and those of us (19:57):
undefined

David Vance: like you and i we can't even comment on any specific (19:59):
undefined

David Vance: because we don't know about it there's been (20:03):
undefined

David Vance: plenty of speculation about what they might be mind it has to (20:05):
undefined

David Vance: be said and think maybe of a fair idea about a couple (20:08):
undefined

David Vance: of them uh but i'm sure like you know they (20:11):
undefined

David Vance: definitely don't involve the likes of for example the prime minister they definitely (20:14):
undefined

David Vance: don't and they definitely don't involve for example former labor politician (20:18):
undefined

David Vance: nick brown definitely no those things are not super injunctions right but we (20:23):
undefined

David Vance: don't know what the actual super injunctions are but. (20:27):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Also i think the daily mail fought for 18 months to get this super injunction (20:31):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: opened and it shows the battle of even an entity that has the money and has (20:36):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: the ability to force this what hope is there for anyone else when it takes them (20:41):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: 18 months and probably spending a ton of money legally. (20:46):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: There's no hope for actual normal citizens. (20:50):
undefined

David Vance: No, it's a perfect way to hide big secrets, and that's what they do. Big secrets are hidden. (20:52):
undefined

David Vance: The elite hide their secrets behind these super injunctions. (21:00):
undefined

David Vance: They should be, I mean, I'd love to see if we ever had an administration that (21:04):
undefined

David Vance: comes in that does anything. (21:08):
undefined

David Vance: One of the first items, remove super injunctions, strike it off the legal list (21:09):
undefined

David Vance: of instruments because it's inequitous. (21:15):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: It is. (21:19):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Let's go again to a US-UK link, and this is Jim Jordan, and this is Rumble, (21:21):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: which is Canadian, really, company. (21:27):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: But this is Jim Jordan, one of the most recognizable figures in the House of Representatives. (21:30):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: He was saying UK regulators threaten American companies with censorship, (21:37):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: and the quote from Ofcom, (21:42):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: which is the communications regulatory body in the UK, They had emailed Rumble (21:45):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: back in May, and the quote that (21:52):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: he took from it was, we will be monitoring Rumble's position carefully. (21:54):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Sounds a very sinister 1984 type comment, but yeah, that's where we're going. (22:00):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: I don't know whether the government really do want to fight with the world, (22:07):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: with America especially, on freedom of speech, because Keir Starmer is going to lose 100%. (22:12):
undefined

David Vance: Oh i agree with you and and and i mean (22:17):
undefined

David Vance: jim jordan should be congratulated on on that's (22:20):
undefined

David Vance: a really it's a very good thread that he put up (22:23):
undefined

David Vance: i've read it all and it does them it shows that it's (22:26):
undefined

David Vance: evidence of what we've talked about anyway peter the fact that ofcom (22:28):
undefined

David Vance: which is essentially is an extension of government wants to control the internet (22:32):
undefined

David Vance: it wants to control everything and it thinks it can tell rumble it could tell (22:36):
undefined

David Vance: you know meta it could tell x what it can and what it cannot show and so. (22:42):
undefined

David Vance: Goes right up against what J.D. Vance and President Trump have been saying. (22:50):
undefined

David Vance: Namely, you're not going to boss U.S. tech companies around. (22:54):
undefined

David Vance: You're not going to do that. But yet, that's what Ofcom is doing. (22:57):
undefined

David Vance: So I just hope that those higher, I mean, Jim Jordan's, as you say, (23:01):
undefined

David Vance: a very respected senator. (23:06):
undefined

David Vance: But I hope others within the administration do look into that. (23:08):
undefined

David Vance: Because it's a clear threat. (23:12):
undefined

David Vance: Like, you know, that's why other platforms like BitChute, which, okay, it's British. (23:14):
undefined

David Vance: But it came out of the U.K. gab which is (23:19):
undefined

David Vance: american owned although some people say it's a little bit extreme but (23:22):
undefined

David Vance: whatever gab withdrew from the uk because (23:25):
undefined

David Vance: it was unsafe for gab to allow british people (23:28):
undefined

David Vance: to interreact on it because of the ofcom threat (23:31):
undefined

David Vance: so you know i think as you (23:34):
undefined

David Vance: said peter i don't see how ofcom win (23:37):
undefined

David Vance: this one but it doesn't stop them threatening and (23:40):
undefined

David Vance: you know we've even seen in this past week that and (23:44):
undefined

David Vance: this wasn't Ofcom this was online safety the threats (23:47):
undefined

David Vance: from a government as regards how companies (23:50):
undefined

David Vance: operate within how companies operate within a given country can impact even (23:53):
undefined

David Vance: I found it on x this week I found for example if I tried to link certain videos (23:59):
undefined

David Vance: showing protests outside migrant hotels it won't work uh you know it just doesn't (24:05):
undefined

David Vance: allow me to do it and that's never happened to me before, (24:11):
undefined

David Vance: But if Ofcom gets its way, Ofcom wants to be the globalist regulator of media. (24:13):
undefined

David Vance: Actually, not just online, but offline as well. And it's going for it, (24:21):
undefined

David Vance: as you can see with Rumble. (24:26):
undefined

David Vance: Nasty little threat. I hope they get smacked. I know there's a big class action (24:28):
undefined

David Vance: going to be taken against them in the US. (24:32):
undefined

David Vance: I think there are people in the UK who would love to do the same. (24:34):
undefined

David Vance: And we'll see where that one goes. (24:38):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Well, here are some clips of President Trump speaking to reporters (24:41):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: and Keir Starmer looking, I mean, just seriously, the most pathetically weak, (24:48):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: imbecile, just so embarrassing. Really good, yeah. (24:54):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: But here I am. I'll play one clip here, and then I'll play a little bit of another clip. (24:58):
undefined

David Vance: Can you go to London, or are you worried it's no longer London? (25:02):
undefined

David Vance: About what? Will you visit London during the second place? I will. (25:05):
undefined

David Vance: I'm not a fan of your mayor I think he's done a terrible job the mayor of London (25:10):
undefined

David Vance: but a nasty person I think he's done he's. (25:16):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: A friend of mine no (25:21):
undefined

David Vance: I think he's done a terrible job but I would certainly visit London that was one. (25:22):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And let me just play another clip put them together I think this is about farmers (25:31):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: and, of course, the Labour government have latched on the farmers to punish (25:37):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: them along with everyone else in society. But here I'll play a little bit of this clip. (25:41):
undefined

David Vance: Who are you with? Who are you with? (25:45):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Because you're asking such a nice question. GB News, Bev Turner from GB News. Very good. (25:47):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: We have a lot of unhappy farmers in this country at the moment and I'm sure (25:52):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: the Prime Minister won't thank me for raising this. (25:56):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: We've had changes to inheritance tax, which mean a lot of farmers feel they're (25:58):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: going to lose their farms when they die or their father dies. (26:01):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: How important are farmers to a country? You mean they're going to lose the farm (26:05):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: because of estate taxes? (26:10):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Correct. So that when they die, they'll have to pay so much. (26:12):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: They're cash poor, but they have great property. (26:15):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Well, they're cash poor. They're land rich and cash poor. A lot of people are land rich. (26:16):
undefined

David Vance: I've had that too. (26:20):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: I've had, sometimes I'm land rich and cash, sometimes I'm cash rich and land poor. (26:21):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: I like it both ways, but as they get older, I like the more conservative. (26:26):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: So I did something that I don't know if you can do, but it was great. I love our farmers. (26:31):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: As you know, in our tax bill, we have a clause that's very important. (26:36):
undefined

David Vance: We were losing a. (26:40):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Lot of farms to the banks because a loving mother and father would die and left (26:41):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: their farm to their children or their child, but their children, their family. (26:48):
undefined

David Vance: And they loved their family. (26:53):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And they thought they were doing them a favor. But they had a 50% tax to pay, (26:54):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: so the land would get valued. (26:58):
undefined

David Vance: And at a house. (27:01):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: He goes on to us about that and poor Keir Starmer just looking like a confused (27:03):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: child wondering what's been happening and thinking, how did I get into this? (27:07):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: But yeah, a lot of those videos, brilliant of Trump just speaking common sense. (27:11):
undefined

David Vance: It was brutal. It was absolutely brutal and brilliant in equal measure because (27:15):
undefined

David Vance: it was the world's media were there. (27:19):
undefined

David Vance: I've got to say, I thought Bev Turner from GB News played a blinder. (27:22):
undefined

David Vance: I was so impressed with Beverly and Trump actually didn't in that clip you just (27:26):
undefined

David Vance: that last clip reference her for the nice questions so she was I just loved (27:31):
undefined

David Vance: everything about that Trump was brilliant from start to finish he, (27:38):
undefined

David Vance: absolutely showed the difference between a leader which he is and a sheep which (27:43):
undefined

David Vance: is what Stormer is and it was a discomfort I mean the thing is that they're talking about the. (27:49):
undefined

David Vance: Tax informers in American tax and, (27:55):
undefined

David Vance: I think after that clip there you've played, Peter, it was on a wee bit, (27:58):
undefined

David Vance: and Trump talked, Storm was talking about, oh, no, we're not at 50%. (28:02):
undefined

David Vance: Well, actually, funny enough, you are at 50%, because there is the standard (28:06):
undefined

David Vance: taxation, there's the corporate taxation, and then there's inheritance taxation. (28:12):
undefined

David Vance: You add all that together, and what President Trump is saying is, right, (28:17):
undefined

David Vance: you're making it uh you know very difficult (28:21):
undefined

David Vance: for the the next generation to (28:24):
undefined

David Vance: take on the farms and stormer's responsible for (28:27):
undefined

David Vance: that but i mean he lied to trump on so many fronts (28:30):
undefined

David Vance: he lied to trump about the fact that oh he was taking tough measures (28:33):
undefined

David Vance: about migration i don't know how that guy stormer can (28:36):
undefined

David Vance: sit there and like pinocchio his nose doesn't (28:39):
undefined

David Vance: grow because he just frankly lied but (28:42):
undefined

David Vance: i'm hoping that trump sees through it i hope he (28:46):
undefined

David Vance: does trump's pretty savvy he's also by the (28:48):
undefined

David Vance: way people talk about oh you know king charles is (28:52):
undefined

David Vance: going to be ever so frightened if trump when trump comes in september about (28:55):
undefined

David Vance: trump may not be diplomatic trump is a brilliant diplomat actually um the way (28:59):
undefined

David Vance: he he handled himself i thought given that he was in the uk was actually really (29:04):
undefined

David Vance: good and he did say stuff in that Trumpian fashion, (29:09):
undefined

David Vance: yeah, which we all love to hear for definite. (29:13):
undefined

David Vance: But it was still balanced, you know, and he didn't actually call Stormer out (29:15):
undefined

David Vance: as such, but he still made his points, which is brilliant. (29:21):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: It's really good. And there's an article in The Telegraph that I'll put in, (29:25):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: if you're watching Rumble or YouTube, I'll put in the bottom, (29:29):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: entitled My Five Days on the Road with Trump Revealed a Man in Complete Control. (29:33):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Really interesting full read of one of those on the plane from the telegraph (29:37):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: and going through and explaining it. (29:42):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: But let's go something in Ireland, and this is the failure of media all over (29:46):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: to actually say where someone is from. (29:53):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And as RTE yesterday, the man who stabbed a guard of peace officer was an ARRI (29:59):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: citizen born in Ireland, and that was the disinformation there, (30:03):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: making sure that we knew he was a man in his 20s, an Irish citizen born in Ireland. (30:06):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Oh, so it's these Irish men running around, stabbing, killing people. (30:12):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And then, oh, today the man is named Abdullah Khan, born to Pakistani immigrants. (30:16):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Then it changes the thinking. We see this time and time again. (30:22):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: They may be born here, but actually they live in 7th century Arabia. (30:26):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Their family are from elsewhere, and these are closed communities. (30:32):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And they think they can do what they like. So it wasn't a paddy, it was Abdullah. (30:35):
undefined

David Vance: Yeah, was he one of the Galway Abdullah's? (30:40):
undefined

David Vance: You know, I think, I mean, yeah. McDoullar. (30:44):
undefined

David Vance: I mean, it's so pathetic. And this is the Irish government's every bit as bad (30:50):
undefined

David Vance: as the British government. (30:55):
undefined

David Vance: And the Irish media is every bit as bad as the British media. (30:57):
undefined

David Vance: They absolutely tried to imply, yeah, just another Irish guy. (31:00):
undefined

David Vance: It's a wee bit like, Peter, again, going back a year ago, you know, Welsh choir boy. (31:06):
undefined

David Vance: Uh irish man born to irish parents (31:10):
undefined

David Vance: and and then we we we get it but then (31:13):
undefined

David Vance: there was a video clip of the uh actual attack (31:16):
undefined

David Vance: this this guy carried out on in capitol street (31:20):
undefined

David Vance: which i know sort of central dublin area i (31:23):
undefined

David Vance: think and um anyway like you know that video (31:26):
undefined

David Vance: clearly clearly shows this guy (31:29):
undefined

David Vance: what he did and the main concern of (31:32):
undefined

David Vance: the irish government and the irish media is not (31:35):
undefined

David Vance: talk about it and i saw a brilliant shot of all (31:39):
undefined

David Vance: the morning dailies in ireland um the (31:42):
undefined

David Vance: day after the attack and it ain't (31:45):
undefined

David Vance: on any of those front pages so being stabbed by (31:48):
undefined

David Vance: a seventh seventh seventh century (31:51):
undefined

David Vance: uh migrant doesn't even make headlines in ireland and but again it's like the (31:54):
undefined

David Vance: british like the uk they don't want the irish people to know what's happening (32:00):
undefined

David Vance: but but the irish have been at this now for quite a while there's been multiple (32:03):
undefined

David Vance: stabbings in Dublin and they just vanish. (32:08):
undefined

David Vance: The media won't talk about them, mainly because the media, of course, (32:12):
undefined

David Vance: in Ireland, gets its money from the government. So it has to play the ball. (32:17):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Sadly, the Irish people are becoming more violent and more rapey, (32:22):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: as they would say, and then you realise it's not true. (32:26):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: But, of course, I want to touch on the Online Safety Act before we finish off, and it is this one, (32:29):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: great from Guido Fox Order Order, And the title is Labour Support for VPN Restrictions (32:38):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: After Online Safety Act Failed. (32:46):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: So either they tell you that X will have to find out what age you are before (32:49):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: you look at a picture of Keir Stormer as a baby or whatever it is. (32:55):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: But this is what you'd expect in North Korea or China, shutting down. (33:00):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: I mean, Labour are going to have a huge battle on their hands to try and make (33:07):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: sure people don't know what's happening. (33:11):
undefined

David Vance: Well, exactly, yeah. So, I mean, it's the law of unintended consequences, isn't it? (33:14):
undefined

David Vance: So they basically impose age verification and everyone then downloads VPNs. (33:19):
undefined

David Vance: But, I mean, I can tell you, having run a business for a long time, (33:25):
undefined

David Vance: it's considered to be best practice in business to have your connections VPN protected, (33:29):
undefined

David Vance: so that, you know, on scurrilous people don't get in and get into your commercial data and stuff. (33:36):
undefined

David Vance: So VPNs are critical for business. (33:42):
undefined

David Vance: And yet Peter Kyle, the ludicrous science minister, is now saying we'd really (33:45):
undefined

David Vance: prefer if you didn't use your VPN. (33:50):
undefined

David Vance: And how's he going to make that? How's he going to stop us using VPNs, Peter? (33:53):
undefined

David Vance: I mean, I suppose, I suspect at the moment, all of a sudden there's loads of (33:58):
undefined

David Vance: people now, you know, located in Australia, US, wherever it is. (34:02):
undefined

David Vance: And actually, of course, they're all located in the UK. (34:06):
undefined

David Vance: This is this is the the consequence but the notion that (34:09):
undefined

David Vance: they would ban the vpn itself it shows you the degree (34:12):
undefined

David Vance: to which the um government wants to go along (34:15):
undefined

David Vance: with something called client-side scanning i i (34:18):
undefined

David Vance: wonder are you familiar with clients so so (34:21):
undefined

David Vance: in the online safety bill there i (34:25):
undefined

David Vance: can't remember what clause but anyway there's this (34:28):
undefined

David Vance: thing called css client-side scanning and what (34:31):
undefined

David Vance: that means is the government wants the power to be (34:35):
undefined

David Vance: able to access on say your phone a message (34:38):
undefined

David Vance: before you send it so you're (34:41):
undefined

David Vance: typing a message you know on whatsapp or on (34:44):
undefined

David Vance: imessage or whatever it is the government wants (34:47):
undefined

David Vance: to be able to slide in see that message in real (34:50):
undefined

David Vance: time before you send it because once you send it (34:53):
undefined

David Vance: it goes through encryption and they know that the big tech (34:56):
undefined

David Vance: companies won't give them the the kind of the back access (34:59):
undefined

David Vance: that they want so the next so the better thing is (35:02):
undefined

David Vance: it's actually even more orwellian okay we want to (35:05):
undefined

David Vance: read your messages before you send them so the (35:08):
undefined

David Vance: government wants to you know so it's called client-side scanning (35:11):
undefined

David Vance: and it's in the online safety act as something that they're proposing to look (35:14):
undefined

David Vance: at as well so just think about that you know we will have literally no um privacy (35:18):
undefined

David Vance: at all uh and even and so again i'm not sure if a VPN stops that. I'm not sure. (35:25):
undefined

David Vance: But that's the mendaciousness of the government. (35:32):
undefined

David Vance: Client side scanning is just stunning because actually you could write an email, (35:35):
undefined

David Vance: a text message, never send it. (35:41):
undefined

David Vance: Nobody receives it. But the government's seen it. (35:44):
undefined

David Vance: And therefore, theoretically, you could ultimately, I suppose, (35:47):
undefined

David Vance: end up in court over not sending a message, but you wrote it. (35:50):
undefined

David Vance: And how far is that away from thought control? (35:54):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: But David, it's so good that the Conservative Party really care about us And (35:57):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: they wouldn't, oh no, no, sorry They were the ones that proposed this bill in the first place That (36:01):
undefined

David Vance: Was the awkwardness, yeah So whenever Kemi Baitenov and Co beat their chest (36:06):
undefined

David Vance: And saying, well this is outrageous I mean, actually, in a way, (36:11):
undefined

David Vance: Peter They are really responsible They were told in 2023, (36:15):
undefined

David Vance: do not proceed with this Because it's going to have all these consequences in (36:20):
undefined

David Vance: free speech And they did, (36:23):
undefined

David Vance: and okay, they got knocked out of power last summer and Labour's just (36:24):
undefined

David Vance: simply grabbed the ball and run with it and implemented it but (36:27):
undefined

David Vance: it shows you that the uni party at Westminster is it is this one big blob and (36:30):
undefined

David Vance: uh yeah you know the Kemi and the Conservatives would be best to shut up about (36:36):
undefined

David Vance: this because they have no credibility but it just shows you both major parties (36:41):
undefined

David Vance: were focused on taking away our ability to communicate with each other. (36:46):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Let's just finish off one story and just touch on this as we finish. (36:51):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And this is kind of a good news story, but it's not a good news story. (36:56):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Lucy Connolly was arrested for a tweet, has, I think, was it three years in jail? (37:00):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: She has. Three years, yeah. So the mother arrested for a social media post will (37:08):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: only serve 40% of our total time in prison. (37:11):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Kind of what rapists do, not really for those who actually post a tweet. (37:15):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: I will be allowed to serve the rest at home. (37:20):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Oh, thank you, Keir Stormer, for allowing her to go home and see her family. (37:22):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: I mean, this is utterly pure evil. (37:27):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: And yet the Communications Act and the online safety bill all put together by the Uni Party. (37:31):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: That's now what we have. But it's good they're going after someone who tweets (37:38):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: and not all the rapists coming in on the boat, David. (37:43):
undefined

David Vance: That's priorities, isn't it? you know but I mean as I said in that (37:46):
undefined

David Vance: my own comment there you know obviously Lucy Connolly (37:49):
undefined

David Vance: should never ever have been sent sent to prison in (37:52):
undefined

David Vance: the first place for all she did was write a somewhat (37:55):
undefined

David Vance: injudicious tweet but so what you know it doesn't warrant anything like a prison (37:58):
undefined

David Vance: sentence isn't seen um but I think they're doing this because they know there's (38:03):
undefined

David Vance: as we've said now several times there's pressure building right now in the UK (38:07):
undefined

David Vance: in August summer months and all that And I think they think, (38:12):
undefined

David Vance: well, if they let her, if they graciously let her out of prison so she can serve the time at home, (38:16):
undefined

David Vance: that will kind of diffuse maybe some of the tensions that are out there because (38:22):
undefined

David Vance: her case has become a bit of a, you know, a cause célèbre, which is fair enough. (38:28):
undefined

David Vance: But, I mean, I don't think that it will diffuse the anger because, (38:34):
undefined

David Vance: I mean, there are other people as well. (38:39):
undefined

David Vance: I mean, there's people that I know that, again, just expressed their outrage last August. (38:41):
undefined

David Vance: And they're in prison. And Lucy is probably the best known of them. (38:48):
undefined

David Vance: But there are some others. I think you know them as well. And they're still there. (38:51):
undefined

David Vance: So, yeah, it's like just free speech is under massive pressure here in the UK. (38:55):
undefined

David Vance: And actually, the good thing is, though, I think other side of the pond, they see it. (39:02):
undefined

David Vance: They actually see, what are you Brits doing? (39:07):
undefined

David Vance: And I also saw that, I mean, even another slightly different topic, (39:10):
undefined

David Vance: we'll not get into it in detail, but just I noticed that the US Defense Secretary, (39:14):
undefined

David Vance: Marco Rubio, has picked up on stormers, we're going to recognize Narnia, a.k.a. (39:19):
undefined

David Vance: Palestine, and said, this is a very clumsy thing. I like the use of language. (39:25):
undefined

David Vance: Rubio says this is clumsy and it's going to have the exact opposite effect and (39:31):
undefined

David Vance: it doesn't make any difference because you can't achieve anything anyway. (39:35):
undefined

David Vance: So, you know the machinations of our evil wicked government are not invisible (39:38):
undefined

David Vance: to the Washington Trump establishment and as someone said to me earlier today, (39:43):
undefined

David Vance: like our best hope of freedom lies in America so American friends out there watching this, I mean, (39:49):
undefined

David Vance: you know we need you to come to our rescue because we are in real trouble because (39:56):
undefined

David Vance: I don't know how we get to 2029 without something giving people and Peter and (40:01):
undefined

David Vance: I don't want I don't want violence or anything like that there but it just can't (40:08):
undefined

David Vance: carry on like this it cannot, (40:12):
undefined

David Vance: No, I think. (40:14):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Pressure from President Trump is literally the only hope for us to make sure (40:15):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: we're not stuck with these conditions until 2029, minimum. (40:19):
undefined

David Vance: Well, I put out a tweet the other day saying, breaking news, (40:23):
undefined

David Vance: North Korea offers Brits sanctions. (40:26):
undefined

David Vance: It got a lot. I just was being sarcastic. But I mean, a lot of people did say, yeah, yeah, yeah. (40:30):
undefined

David Vance: And actually, when I thought about it, I thought, yeah, North Korea mightn't be that bad. (40:37):
undefined

David Vance: I'm not sure what the summers are like, but, you know, maybe I might have a (40:41):
undefined

David Vance: wee bit more less fear of a tap on the shoulder and the tyranny of this government. (40:45):
undefined

David Vance: So, yeah, as you say, we'll have to wait to see. (40:52):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: Well, maybe I could set up a whole Irish town somewhere in the middle of Texas, (40:54):
undefined

David Vance: So we'll see on that. That'll be better. I definitely prefer that, yeah. (40:57):
undefined

Hearts of Oak: You can do North Korea, David. I'm doing Texas. (41:00):
undefined

David Vance: I fancy Vanceville. Vanceville. J.D. (41:02):
undefined

David Vance: Vance can be the honorary patron, and it provides a space for us all to come (41:05):
undefined

David Vance: together so we can be safe and maybe he'll go there for summer holidays and (41:10):
undefined

David Vance: not the Cotswolds yeah what's he going why is he going to the Cotswolds yeah exactly yeah. (41:14):
undefined