July 13, 2022 • 45 mins
We’re SO excited to hang out with RuPaul’s Drag Race Down Under Season 2 star Hannah Conda! She Zooms through from her Drag Room before a gig and spills the tea on what we can expect from Season 2 and what it was like the first time she ever met Ru Paul! Listen and Enjoy dolls! x
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I haven't had some work done.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Yes, bitch, you have some card bumps. Yes, bitch my look, yes,
bitch that.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hijack vision.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi Tom, how are you? I'm good. I'm really good.
I'm better than last week. I'm not hungover today.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Oh good?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
And my eyes clearer.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Oh it has too. There's kind of a little bit
of a mask scar, right.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm feeling a bit masked. I'm kind of happy it happened.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, I have a scar above my left eye, like
in my eye brothers, you can't really see it, right,
So yeah, when I was like both masked, Yeah, I know.
Well when I was in you don't remember how it
was happened, did you? No?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm you know what. I've been having flashbacks and I
think I did it to myself. I think I was
literally had my phone in my hand and I was
like I had my phone and a glass of wine
in my hand and I was lifting it up and
I think my home my.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Phone like yeah, because it kind of did look like
a split, like it split open.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, it wasn't like a cut like a scratcher.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
And no, it was a huge wound.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm and it was like you know when you like
have the now clippers and you cut your pinky nail.
That was like the size that was tiny was mine though,
was so big. When I was in year one, I
like someone tripped me over. I like fell over someone,
and I like slid in the classroom and like bashed
my eye on the metal like leg of a table,
and I know, and there was like it was a
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whole thing, and the teacher had to get the girl
from the office to come down, and then I had
to go to hospital and get stitches. Yeah, I had
to get stitched hayes of stitches. It was really bad.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I used to always do things like that though on purpose,
and not like actually hurt myself, but like just do
like makeup shit, always just to like get out.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Of oh my god. Yeah, but that was when I
was in one. When I was in high school, Oh
my god, I was at the nurse all the time, right, Yeah,
Like whenever it was pe or maths, I was like,
I've got a really because I used to get bad migraines.
It was the perfect excuse. Even when I didn't have one.
I was like, I've got a really bad migraine. Can
I just like lie down in here.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I'm just like what what is a migraine? Like, because
I've never had a migraine. People don't. Actually I don't
really even get headaches, to be honest, Oh I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I get a headache like every two or three days.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Only. You can't like dark room. You can't like have
any noise going on.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
It's different for different people. For me, it's more like
light noise is not so bad. It's light and sense
if I was going like, okay, well obviously that would
be annoying, but like, yes, obviously, but like it's more
light for me. And smells are like, oh my god,
smell sometimes I you know how some people like if
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you've had a bad night on tequila, you can never
have tequila again if you've been like hung whatever. That's
me from certain smells of when I've had migraines in
the past, So I like remember it and then I
get triggered and it will either bring on a headache
instantly or I feel so sick from it. So like
certain smells from when I've had a bad migraine like
kill me.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
What's the trigger smell for you?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
One of them is a tuberose candle, like any tuberos scent,
but like it's so it's so like strong and delicate
and like flowery. That's a weird one. But then there's
like other smells, smells like of like food or whatever.
It's Oh my god, it's just so bad. But yeah,
some people like they literally can't see, they can't look
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see in front of them. I get really like and again,
people have different places. Mine always at the back of
my head and in my neck and shoulders and like
the top of my head.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
They're the worst. But anyway, yeah, man, well I had
a little bit of a headache after I hit my eye,
but that's the closest thing. I kind of.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, I've had a really good week. Not to gloat,
I give me some good Well. I break from work
and so I went down to Melbourne for a few
days to see Harry Potter. Oh my god, it was amazing.
The Harry Potter play.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
The movie. Oh there's a play.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Are you do you Live under a Rock? Did you
know there's a Harry Potter play?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I'm not. I'm not. I don't know a lot about plays.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Okay, So it's basically a musical because there's like music
and dancing, but there's no really like singing there's heaps
of magic in it. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
It's a magic in it. Yeah, and a live play.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Uh huh, well that's like that's like magic magicians, you know,
so basically is not a magician with is it now?
But I'm saying it's like in real life, you see
a magician in real life.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Okay, it's just like that, but they're.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Actors doing the magic. They're not magicians, right, Yeah, And
so it's that. It's like it's called Harry Potter and
the Curse Child. It's there's like in Broadway, London, Melbourne.
It's like the biggest play in the world, and there's
like a thing that they you have to renovate the
the theater that it's in before you can put it
on because it's like, oh so it's like it looks
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like Hogwarts kind of.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So all they play all the.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Wallpaper was like Harry Potter wallpaper in the whole theater.
The carpet was Harry Potter carpet. They had like stained
glass windows on the either side of like the stage.
I was only there for like two or three days. Yeah,
it was like a film snapchip. It was just it
was amazing, and they do like I was trying to
work out the whole time, like the like tricks, because
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when I go to am musical, do you ever do this?
I don't know if other people do this. So when
I met like a musical, I'll try and like watch
how they do a quick change, or like watch how
they'll like make something appear, and or I'm like into
the behind the scenes stuff, but what they do on stage,
like always trying to pick it out, yeah kind of yeah,
And like when I was there, I was like trying.
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I knew the Lodge of Magic was going to happen.
I didn't know what, though, And so whenever I was
could like see something or they were doing something, I
was trying to work it out, or just after it happened,
I was trying to work it out. So there's like
one scene where I'm not really giving anything away. But
you know in the movies, have you seen the movies?
I love the movies, same they do. There's this thing
called flu powder where they like travel between fireplaces or whatever. Yeah,
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so I think that's kind of the vibe in this.
They like travel through or they enter the Ministry of
Magic through like a London red phone box, you know,
you like, you know you put over that, yeah, you know,
you put your finger into like get the coins out
once you finish your call. Bodies. Actors were disappearing into that,
and I was like what it was just mind blowing crazy,
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like I didn't know how that. You saw them walk
to it and they were in robes and then all
of a sudden, the robe get sucked into the little
tiny quin hole. Actors aren't there. It was amazing, like,
oh my god, it was amazing, and like things were
disappearing and books talk and like it's just amazing talk.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Good.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You know. I'm auditioning for a musical on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Oh my what musical?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I don't think I should. I'm now just say because
if I get the part and then they want to
do like an announcement that I'm in it, I'm I'm
already announced.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Can you give us a clue?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Well, well, I actually hadn't heard of the musical.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Is it a new musical?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah? No, I don't actually know. I hadn't heard of it.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I'm a musical officionado.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I know you we need to like run lines together
because audition. I auditioned for a musical once and I
had it was a shoe. What was a horrible audition?
I erased it from my memory. I didn't remember any
of the lines. But yeah, so I've got to get
ready for this, for this musical on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Well took us for that. Well Jack, let's bring in
today's doll, today's guest.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Oh my god, I'm too excited.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So during the week, Yes, Drag Race Down Under Girls revealed,
the cast, revealed the queen's wait, sorry, they were revealed.
How stupid I.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Got it right? Come on?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Revealed some amazing queens that I know that I'm friends
with it are on there, so excited for them, and
then obviously some other queens newsic Kiwi ones, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Who cares about them?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
They're gonna lose.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
No, we love it.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
We can't, no, no, no, to be fair before we
start ketamine one last year, she was a key week.
We've got to have an Australian. Yeah, yeah, we've got
to have an Australian this year. Anyway, that's my own
personal opinion. Would you like to introduce your friend?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Would we have the lovely, the gorgeous, the incredible, just
the incredibly talented Hannah Conda, Welcome to Hey Do, Hey
do Hi? How are Yeah, We're fabulous? How are you?
More importantly thrilled?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You know, like a superstar now, I know, before we start,
I feel like you have been sitting on this secret
for so long, because when did you guys film forever ago? Right?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, we filmed in end of January February.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
When we film months ago?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's wold. It feels like it feels like
a long time. It really has, because you're kind of
sitting on this massive secret that you can't tell anybody about,
and you know, the rumor mill goes wild, and then
everyone's asking you about it and you're like, no, I
have no idea.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah I know, but you were you were good.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I have to say, out of everyone, you were probably
the best, because I feel like, even like we've been
friends for a while, and even when I've said stuff
to you, because I've obviously we all hear the rumors
and then you're you're like you're like, oh no, no, yeah, no, no,
You're like I wish. You're like, yeah, look, I wish.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
One day, one day, maybe you never know, if I'm
lucky enough. Yeah, if they if they see that you know,
I've got potential maybe, but you know, I really tried.
And I tell you. One of the funniest stories though,
is there is someone that I feel really bad about.
Someone still told them that I went away for a
nose job. So I carried on that story when I
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got back.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I would have been kissed that you didn't bring me
with you.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, we would have had to go together. But so
I said, but oh, yeah I did. I had a
nose job. And they're like, oh, it's so straight, we
love it. And then they went I got a nose
job as well because they thought that like I did,
and they like really impressed, but then I don't like.
I think they nose looks great, like they look beautiful,
but apparently they're not happy with it. But I'm like, oh,
I feel really bad that you thought that you should
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get a nose job because I did, but I didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Want Was this another queen or was this just like
some random.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
No, just just just a punch our friend.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, so someone got a nose job because they thought
that you had a nose job, but you didn't have
a nose job. And now they have a nose job.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You know, they have a nose job, So I'm really sorry.
Maybe you will get a nose job. I don't know.
They seem to go back in new faces with when
when they're asked back, so they never get asked back, but.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Also with the same nose, like didn't they didn't they
cotton on?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, she kind of shows like how much they paid attention.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You know, maybe they couldn't tell with the contouring.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, well look, you know, I think I do pride
myself in a nice contoured nose.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I was just I just remembered this just before we
started recording. You put me in drag the first time,
really kind.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Of your mom, like your mom.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
It was track name again, I can't remember it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Jacqueline, Jacqueline Regime, that's right. And it was with a
good old, good old all right hand all right. Yeah,
that was a fun time. And I tell you, I've
never put eyeliner on anybody. It just went on so smooth,
and it just shows how well you take care of
your beautiful skin. That's the biggest I was like, I
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was just went on so like it.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Was like I was like, what just why were you
getting into drag? What was it for? Just for lolls?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
What that's like an interview slash, you know, embracing queer
culture kind of talk show that all right.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Hey d it's called Drag it Out, Drag it Out.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, And so I was the drag artist and Matt
was asking all the questions and stuff, and it was
a really fun time. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
It was fun. It was very fun that that big
yellow wig I looked a bit like.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
A beautiful Yeah, and your lips as well, Like we're
like lips sisters.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
So I'm going I'm going.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
To do look less voluptuous than normal.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I'm on my way to the clinic next week. Great,
I've got to ba.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
I'm ready for some botox and some lip right, all.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
That all that reality star cash money.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Now, well, you know, noodles for a month though.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Now, speaking of jacketing into drag the first time, I guess,
let's like should we just go back, Like when did
you start drag? When was the first time you got
into drag? How long have you been doing it?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I started in like I think it was two thousand
and nine where I started doing drag officially.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Prior to that, like I'd done lots.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Of dress ups at school and like going to parties.
There's a photo of me when I was like sixteen
or seventeen, when I was a saloon girl, which is like,
you know, like a Western saloon girl. I had like
this big bee hive thing and I had like yeah,
you know, it was like google saloon girl, you know. Yeah,
So I did that. But like really getting into it
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was in two thousand and nine when I went out
to the Court and I saw all these wild creatures
roaming the stage of the Court Hotel in Perth, and
I was like, what the fuck is that? And then yeah,
I befriended a drag queen, Ruby Jules, who had just
started and she's like, you need to give it a go,
like you need to give the go and I was like,
I'll do it one night one night, and so I
went down. She put me into drag one night only
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on the on the Wednesday at the Court Hotel for
amateur drag and I wanted to win because you get
a fifty dollar bar card and like, being a poor
teenager or like eighteen year old, you're like, I.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Need the bar card totally.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I yeah. So I went in and the dragline hosting
at the time she did not let me win. She's like,
you need to perform in Yeah, she said, you need
to perform in both shows. And I was like, both shows,
there's only one. You come in for the last one
and you win. Like come on, She's like, nah, I'm
overruling that. No, you can't win. This is going to
this other girl. And I was like, oh what. So
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the next week I went back and I fucking did
both shows and I won and yeah, and I got
a fifty dollar bar card and I was like, so
got drunk. And then I decided that, you know, I
loved it and I wanted to keep going with it,
and here we are twelve years later. It was hectic.
So I did that, couldn't I'd never dance, they'd never
been in a show. I never like anything like it,
and yeah, I just fell in love with it. It
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was just wild.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
So how long from when you did the comp to
when you're in your first show paid gig.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
It was actually quite quick. It was maybe four months,
five months because there was it was slim pickens at
the time, so you know, and it's not like what
drag is like today, where everyone wants to be with
drag queens and be around them, you know, the drag
queens were like the freaks that the gays would gore
cat and be like these things again. But they enjoy
it and they clap along because you know, they it's
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a part of our family and our community. But yeah,
you were never like you never, It wasn't what it
is where you know, all the boys wanted to date
you and stuff, and you know, being a young gay boy,
you wanted to be touched by every single person you
met and they go, oh you do drag yuck.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Oh I don't want any part of that.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Wow. So it wasn't like.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
That back then. Only yeah, years ago. So yeah, is
it not like that?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It wasn't like that back then, you bitch.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
No, But that's what I mean. Like, no, as I said,
only ten years ago, Like, that's not that long ago
for people to like, for it to have changed now
that you say, like people are into it and it's
not a thing that fases them.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, like it. I think that's an important thing that
you know, how quickly and how rapidly things have changed.
And it wasn't that long ago that you know, the
idea of having a big drag show kind of like
drag race down under let alone the world is like
it was not a theme, Like no one would have
really thought that it would catch on like it has
and be embraced. It's exciting and I'm so glad that
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it is taken on because we kind of are you know,
we're a very important part of our community, right.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I mean I've said this to you before, like drag
queens of the community of like my second moms are
you are like my second mom because you kind of
you take us under your wing, whether you know it
or not. That this is at least how I feel,
especially with you, I feel like you were just a
shining light whenever because obviously as well, when you start
going out as a young gay boy, there's all the
experimentings going on and it can be a bit hit
and miss, and it can be safe and not safe.
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And I feel like someone like you you've always been
like a pillar of safety. Whether you've known that or not,
that's really what you are. I think to me and
so many other people in the community.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh that means the world. But like it is our job.
We are kind of like we are the sort of
safety in it, you know, where people that don't feel
like they fit in or don't feel like they've got
a safe space to be. It's always the drag queens
that kind of go up to someone that's sitting there
alone and just go, hey, how's it going and what's true?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Or protect like go into fight people. Like years ago
someone got like bash on Offestree and cocoa this guy,
Yeah remember that, Like you guys go into five people.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, all the time. Like I've had moments where I've
been at venues and so there was a beautiful young
Aboriginal boy that was kind of being targeted by a
few people in the in the audience. So I went
up and I was like, you're right, what's happening? And
she's like, I'm just they're not being very nice. And
I was like, well, you know who are? They show
me who they are? And so I did, and it's like,
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I don't tell security because he was scared that he
was going to get kicked out because unfortunately, there's a
lot of profiling that goes on with in security systems,
so we're constantly kind of talking to venues and stuff
to fix that kind of stuff up.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
But I went straight up to security and I was like,
these kids.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Out, now, you know what? The little k the kid
to drink and you know, made sure it was all okay,
because you know, I think it's our job, because we
do have some kind of power and pull in these
ven years, that we use that to make sure that
everybody's feeling safe.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
As long as I've known you, I feel like you've
really been one of the queens that's throughout the most
that has really advocated for people and has just spread
such love and enjoying positivity. Is on your on socials,
in real life, in the clubs. Is that something that's
always been very important to you, Because as long as
I've known you, that's that's kind of what I've known
of you the most. Is is you spreading this kind
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of positivity and you've never been one which I've never seen,
like on stage, even when you're like you're dragging people,
it's always in you're still lifting them up at the
same time. It's never you're never hearing tearing them down
to like a horrible point like some people can tend
to do. Has that always been something that's important to you?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I always try and always have tried to operate out
of a place of being like kind and respectful and loving.
You know I've had slip ups, absolutely, but I think
it's it's definitely natural for me to be nice and
to be welcoming to people. I like talking to all
different types of people to hear their stories because.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You know, you never know what you're going to learn
from somebody else.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And also when you have people come in that aren't
used to our venues and our homes and the way
that we work, you know, the last thing I want
to do is isolate anybody or make them feel scared
about coming because with that means that people that are
heterosexual are going to be coming in to our venues,
and I want everybody to be there because that's what
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equality is about, is that we're all together, we're all celebrating.
So if someone's being a bit disrespectful, the last thing
I want to do is to shoot them down to
a point where they go, oh my god, and it
turns them into like being hateful. I want to make
sure that like you kind of training them. I was
saying to my partner Jack the other day, I was like,
you know, when you when people will acknowledge that they've
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made mistakes or they've done things that aren't quite right,
or they still learning.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
It's kind of like training a dog.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You know, when the dog does the right thing, you
give it a treat when you go good work, well done,
and you encourage that behavior. And I don't feel it's
productive to go, oh, you've done the right thing and
smack it. You know, you want to encourage that that
growth and that way. You know, that encouragement to go, Okay,
yeah you fucked up, but we can do this better
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and this is how and then hopefully they start running
with that and you know, encouraging them along the way.
And I think that's a very important part of my
drag and what I like to do is that seeing
everybody as humans and we're all trying to make our
way in this wild, wild world. If I can be
a little bit of a beacon of light for people
or you know, be a guide for anybody, I'm so
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happy to be that.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
And a treat for a good gay to gay bar.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's like a shot of fireball or a vodka soda.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
You dog gets a little liver pigs here, I wanted
to ask. I was talking to Instagram, like I love
a drag queen when they have like one look that
is their vibe, Like remember bossco in Drag Race had
like the point of whew last season. Yeah, you know,
like Tricksy has the iconic makeup, yours is like the
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iconic makeup. Look, you know that's anaconda. How long did
it take to get that vibe that was your You're like,
this is me?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I think there's been elements of it that.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Have sort of, you know, been growing over the years.
But I really think I settled into sort of what
my face is now and what I paint now through
Lockdown actually, and that's kind of where I really finessed
the things I like. To be honest, it came out
of being a little bit lazy because I was like
I didn't want to put as much makeup on. I
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didn't want to be drawing cut creases, which is kind
of that severe line and stuff. All of that. I
was like no interest anymore. I just like this soft,
smoky sort of thing, but still very drag. So what
has come to be my face now that I love doing,
which definitely developed in Lockdown being really late?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Right, how long does it take you now?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well, especially after good old drag Race, I can get
ready in like an hour, smack it on.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I got in I did drag for the first time
about three or four weeks ago, and Danny Issues did
my makeup and it took her two hours, like just
because it was my first time and we were chatting
and stuff, but like it took so long, and I
was like, you got you guys do this every single
or like you know, like every couple of times a week.
And she's like, yeah, yeah, but but you love like
she like loves it. It's therapeutic. It's part of the process.
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It's like fun. It's not like a task.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
It's not like she's fabulous painting.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
She's amazing.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I looked so good.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Myself.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I'll show you some photos, like I looked hot because
I was like my vibe was like I really wanted
to have like have you you know, have you seen
outfit of like Paris Hilton DJing, Like heaps of sparkles.
That was my vibe. I was like, the aesthetic Isaris
Hilton DJing. And I just couldn't find the right costume.
And then like last minute, like four pm, she was
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coming to mine. At five four pm, I like ran
to Patty's Markets and just had a meltdown. And then
in the back corner of like this that found this
like the perfect outfit, and the woman was like, You're born.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
For this, and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
And then I was like living such the fantasy that
I was like I wanted. I really wanted like a
signature scent, like a signature drags.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
So I went on, yes, what's your Olympia Legend by
Parker Raban. Oh, you'll often smell that permeating many venues
on Oxford Street.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Well, I like went to Mecca and was like smelling
all the girls perfumes. And I was like, because I
was in it a full bottle, I just got two
little testers and all night was topping it up. I
was like living the fantasy, living in a fantasy.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It was.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It was so fun.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Can I show you though? I found online taking because
I went back into like the days of old where
I used to steal my sister's fragrance and controversial these days.
But Gwen Stefani's Harry's Uku Lovers perfumes do you remember them? Yes?
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I found one. It's the coconut one.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Is it good? No?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
It was awful now it's like it's still good, like
it's just not what I remember. But I got it,
so that's there.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
If I smell, if I smell from coconut at Stone
all tonight, I yes, good totally. You know what, I
know what I was obsessed with. I loved your promo
video that you put up on your socials for Drag Race,
had you explaining your cackle, how you were talking about
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the grit that you've gotten over the years. I just
feel like you are so so likable, and I know
you can't tell us absolutely anything, but I just want
to wish you all the best of luck because I
think you're going to win.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
A thank you. Look, it was it was so much
fun to do, like because I've heard, you know, there's
lots of girls now that have been through the machine
and they all talk about their experiences and some of
them have like didn't enjoy it and whatever.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
So I was really nervous going in. But how COO
this time?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And I think, to be honest, you know, whatever the
journey holds for me in there, I feel like a
winner because I got there.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
That I've only started watching Drag Race since Lockdown. I
moved in with my friend who was like obsessed with it,
watched every season like a hundred times, and I had
never like I'd watched it here and there, but was
never like obsessed with it. No, I'm obsessed. But he
was like telling me all the ins and outs and
like saying that some queens like watch every single season
ever and try and do heaps of research. Can you really,
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as someone that's done it, can you actually like do
that where you like research and try and prepare by
watching old stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Like you can to a degree, Like you know that
there's going to be some sort of snatch game.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Do you know that there's going to be a design challenge?
You know that there's going to be stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
To a degree, you can prepare because you can practice
a character, you can learn how to sew slash hot Blue,
and you can also kind of maybe start writing some
lyrics and playing around with that. So you can to
a degree. But I find that if you do over prepare,
I think it could inhibit your journey because you kind
of want to just be in the moment and like
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you never know what's going to pop up or what
they're going to throw at you. So I think that
was something that I tried to maintain throughout the course
of it, was to be just open minded to it all.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Did you know before you went in, I can sew okay?
I remember so well. My favorite thing about last season
of doubt Under was oh, my god, mind blake, what's
her name? With the Maxi Maxi Goesico. I had no
fucking idea how to say, but I knew I was
going on Rupel' drag, right, so I went and took lessons.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
It was like, yeah, my.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Favorite thing of the whole season. It was like it
all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Do you know she's speaking the truth about Yeah? I learned.
I learned how to sew not very well. I had
a pattern like that brought in with me just in case,
and it was one of those things I knew I
needed to have in my back pocket, just in case,
whether or not it works or if I ever got
to do it, you have to watch, but it was
it was camp.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Why what's it like for you? Obviously you can't tell
us like what happens in the first episode, But what's
it like when the first time you see Rue he
opens the door and goes get a gooda gooday, and
like comes down the stairs, Like what's that like? Because
he's like it's freaking RuPaul.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, well you're like, well, first thing, we were like,
oh fuck, she's really here. Right, it's not a girl,
she's real, but like she walks down and it's this
is the presence about Rue that I just was so
excited to see him. I actually met her in La
at drag Coon maybe in twenty fifteen or sixteen, and
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she was really lovely, but this was just so different
to see her work.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Like she is a business woman.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
She is there for a job, and I respect that,
and there's just a lot of like warmth that she exudes,
and she's interested in us, she's interested in our stories.
And I really respected that because I didn't know what
that was going to be like. But yeah, she when
she's on the set, she's on set. You do your job,
and like she's happy.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I always find that so fascinating that she always does
seem so interested in each individual. And there's so many franchises,
there's so many queens and she I mean, and this
comes across on TV. I guess I don't know how
it is in person, but like she always seems to
really care a lot about each queen that comes through,
And I'm like, hey, aren't you drained babes?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, I know, like, but I think maybe she just
focuses on the girls that she's like working with at
the time, but she is really thoroughly invested in us,
and you know, asked this question she knows and like
it really shocked us because, like she mentioned on our
first meeting, remembering us from our audition tapes and stuff,
and you know, you think, oh my god, she doesn't
watch the auditions, but she remembers things from the auditions,
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and I was like, wow, you like you are invested
in this experience and who we are, and that was
really really special. And the same for Michelle and Reese.
They are just such lovely people that are willing to
give of themselves to guide us and make sure that
we're doing our best. And I think the one thing
that I learned from the whole experience was that, you know,
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while we're competing against each other, the real competition is.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Between us, Like is between ourselves and us.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
As long as you are making sure you're bettering yourself
and doing what you're doing and doing it well, and
each time that you get a critique or something, you
take it on board and you work with it, that's
the growth they want to see. It's not about kind
of who's better than each other, although it is, it's
not really you know.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
What I mean?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Well, if you were to win,
what would you want to spend all the money on?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Wow? Far out? Okay, so I would I really want
to get a car, Like I want to get a
new car because first, Zicki swift and I just want
to upgrade her because she's Taylor. The Swift has dug me. Yeah, Taylor,
and she's done me so good, but she really needs
to have a rest.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
And so I would love to get a new car.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
But I also kind of, you know, I want to
invest a little bit back into Drag if I were,
but also, you know, to give back a little bit
to the community. And there are you know, some organizations
that I'd love to support. One being Black, which is
an Aboriginal queer organization here in Sydney which looks out
to Queer First Nations people and making sure that they're
thriving and telling their stories, which I love. So I
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really want to be able to donate to organizations like
that and just give back a little bit to our
community because they've supported me.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
So we absolutely love it about you. You're just the
absolute sweetest and I'm just I'm just so excited to watch.
We're both going to the premiere.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You are flex, Yeah, we are. I'm going to be
doing the red carpet, so we'll speak on the red carpet.
And I was like, to Jack do the red carp
and he goes, I'd rather not be media. I'd rather
be a celebrity and walk.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I did not say that.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
You paraphrase it, but it was something like celebrity. I
think you said like, I would rather just walk.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Right in this industry for ten years. Let me be up.
I want to wear something it's drag race. I want
to take advantage of it and wear something black.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Do you know what will be funny is I'll interview
you because I'm interviewing for the podcast, so I'll interview
you for the podcast. I'll be like, thanks, thanks Hannah, Okay,
thanks Jack, Vision from Hate, Hello from Hadel.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Do you know what you're gonna wear? I feel like
it's gonna be glamor.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Oh yeah, I just picked up my fabric, which and
gorgeous gold with some blues and purples in this sequence.
It's really really bad, usual but really pretty, and I'm
going for like a kind of drop dress with some
rouging at the top. I'm gonna go up, my hand's
gonna be up, and I'm hopefully going to do like
it and Nicole Smith kind of vibes like messy and
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slowey and ye yeah, or.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Like you've just thrown it together but really it took
four hours.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, effortless, effortless. Can I give you what my emma whiz?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Can I give you a carpet tip? I've done a
lot of red carpets. There is nothing worse than when
the person that's interviewing all the persons being interviewed has
bad breath, because you get really dry, you get really
dry mouth on a carpet. There's lights, there's no water,
there's a lot of waiting. My advice is take some mince,
even if like I'm not a bad breath person, but
I always take mints, and like a little water bottle.
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Maybe have like a minder, or take a bag that's
big enough to put like a pop top of water, like.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Like this water bottle.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Thise that's too big you'll need just like a little
You could even do a shtick. You know those handbags
that you can put a goon sack of wine in
that and that could be a stick.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
The bracelets let.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Anyway, Yeah, just to save you from dry mouth or
like dry breath because yeah, because you're close.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
You know, I didn't want to interrupt you spiel.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
But the three things that I carry all the time
breath mints, good fragrance, and my asthma PA like you know,
she's she's ready, but she also does have the packet
of cigarettes.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Fready, chick, I was an asthmatic smoker.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You're always around to give me a fag at the
end of the night. Always straight, you are, you are,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
You're one of the few that I will give a
cigarette to. You know where the fact that they cost
five dollars a cigarette these days wild?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
But you know wild it is.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
You know, I know I have stopped smoking, but I've
realized I haven't stop smoking. I've just stopped buying them. Yeah,
so you're.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Only getting them for free, You're just bumming them from
other people.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I've become that bitch, I know.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Now is there again? I know you can't say much,
but like, what's the is there rules about like how
much how many bags you can take or can you
just bring as much shit as you want.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
There is a bag sort of limit, so you get
your tape. I think it was like three bags and
two boxes that's what we got to take. So you
had to kind of make sure that everything fits in
there nicely. I don't know how, but like for some reason,
you know, when you're packing up at the end of
your cycle and experience, everything seems to expand like yeah,
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like yeah, but it's like when you're packing to go,
you're like, bam, everything fits in. It was beautiful. It
was packed wonderfully. Like tell you, the fun part was
going to the hotel quarantine in New Zealand and having
to have all that shit in your hotel room. Oh
my gosh, what did you.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Do in quarantine? I always love to know what people
do in the two weeks.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
It is so weird because you feel like you have
no contact or like you can't be a person. You
just kind of like they just make sure that they
stay away from you and you just do your thing.
I did a lot of walking around a circle on
the rooftop of this hotel, which is fun, like just
listening to music. I go out for a little cigarette
break every now and then, which was nice. But you
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have to book in and so sometimes like a day
would be booked up so you couldn't go and you'd
be like dying. I watched a lot of like movies
and TV on my phone. I brought my little Google
Chrome casting to try and put on the Telly, but
it wouldn't work, so I ended up watching a lot
of New Zealand TV.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Oh at the Multi channel as well, that was fun.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
In the morning, there was six am there was a
lady doing aerobics and I really got onto her.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Was it like O style aerobics vibe?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah, kind of, but.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
She was by herself and she was always in like
a flared like disco dot patch and she was just
smiling at the camera, just doing things, and I was
living so I filmed her so I could like do
it when I got back home as well, because I
knew i'd lose access to the Multi.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
TV, so I really wanted to make sure I had it.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
So you're still doing the aerobics.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Oh yeah, babe, still still whirl in her She's there's
only two videos, but they're long.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
So yeah, did you audition for season one or you
just they didn't do it and then just waited for two.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I did I did audition for season one, you know,
apparently I got quite close to being a part of it.
But and when I got the no call, because I
got kind of a semies but then it came back
and they were like, oh I was not this time girl,
And I was like so demous, stated, yeah, it was
a false positive basis very bad. I was so devastated.
(35:05):
But in that period of time that, like when it happened,
like I reassessed my relationship with wanting to do Drag Race.
I was like, I went from thinking I needed to
do it to changing my perspective of maybe it's something
I want to do and if it's meant to happen,
it will happen. And I think that kind of set
me in good stead. So when I got the call
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about this season, I was very relaxed. And I was
freaking out that I had to get so much done,
but like, I was very relaxed in terms of knowing
the fact that well the Universes said yeah, this is the.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Time, this is They were like, can you please apply
because we'd really like you. Is that what you mean?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
No, Like I was going to apply. Actually, to be honest,
I wasn't going to apply for this season. Yeah, for
this second season. I wasn't going to do it. I
was in a really bad place in my mental health
and we were in lockdown and I was like, I
don't think this is right for me. But then I
was like partner Jack was like, you know what, You've
got nothing else happening literally right now, why don't you
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just put the chime in? And it's like the audition video.
Hats off to anybody that's done it. It is thorough,
and it is long.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
And isn't it like twenty minutes long or something?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, it's like twenty five minutes. I think you have
to do like acting challenge, sewing, you have to do
ten looks, you have to do all these questions and
all this stuff. It's very, very thorough, and I take
my hat off to anybody that does it because it
is such a like in itself, is such a drag
race challenge. But we had nothing else to do, so
I gave it a go, and I actually by the
end of it, I loved it. It got me back
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into loving drag because I wasn't loving it at the time.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
And I sent it in.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I was like, look, if it's meant to happen, it'll happen,
and then it happened.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
And when you got the call? Yes, were you like
or did you? I don't know because I was watched
like you know when people get like they get a
call from like their agent in a movie that they
got a role or whatever. Was it like that? Or
were you like who's this random unknown number? Yes?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
What?
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Like? Where were you? How did you find out?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Well, because I've seen all these videos of all the
other contestants that like have their reaction videos to getting
the call, like that's like got to be staged.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Because I was getting.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Ready for a Christmas show down in Darling Harbor with
Chris bur and Carmen. We were back to go do
our Christmas show and I get this phone call from
this number and I was like hello, and they're like, oh, hi, Hannah,
would you like to be on Drag Race?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Oh, babes, are you sure? Are you sure?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
And they're like yeah, no, we really, we're really keen
and like we would love to have you on the car.
So I was like, oh, well it's you sure, Okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
I'll do that, but I've got a run. I'm just
about to pup down to Darling Harbor and do a
Christmas show. So you know, I was like, thanks, love
you guys, speak to you soon, and then like popped
off down and do a Christmas show and trying to
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keep myself at bay.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I know, because I imagine how excited you would be
and then you've got to actually do a show and
remember things that you've been rehearsing. Like, my brain would
not be in it.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Oh bag. Sydney's bells were jingled so hard that day
because I was like just running on pure adrenaline and excitement.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
So who was the first person you told? Because obviously
you can't tell.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Me any right, I had to tell Jack, my partner, Honey. Yeah.
I rang him and I was like, bab's where on
what's happening? And he's like, you're joking. I was like, no,
I'm not serious, as like, oh fuck, We've got so
much to do, and he's like he's like a planner.
So he's like, right, let me know, I'm going to
start thinking of all these things. I was like, we
don't even know anything yet, and he's like, yeah, but
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I'll plan it. But he was really keen and excited,
so he he was the one. Yeah that I told I.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Love that, you know how like someone's like won an
Oscar or like just been nominated, they go like Oscar
nominee Nicole Kidman, or they would say an what you
need to make sure now anytime anyone announces you onto
stage before a show. Drag Raced down Under season two's
Hanah Konda, come on, you know what I mean, Like
you got to incorporate it. It's like part of your
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name now yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
It's Anaconda down goes down Under season cheek just and
had a conduct alway Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
And then obviously if you get like a finalist, you
can be like season two Down Under finalists Hanaiconda or
winner your Season two down the winner like updated obviously because.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
It's what Ma ma Rees says. It's all about branding,
you know, branding, branding.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Branding, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, I'm very excited for you all to see it,
and I'm really keen on everybody getting to know a
little bit more about down Under Dragon. I think the
world needs to see a little bit more of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I think that's wonderful. I think you're the perfecting to
do it. We just like thank you, I have a question.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I have one more question, Hannah, one more questioned. Everyone,
I feel like always talks about the drag looks, the
runway looks, whatever. How did you decide on your boy
look for when the interviews because you have to wear
the same outfit for the whole thing for all the
interview bits. How did you decide to your boy look
for that?
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Ques?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Well, so I had to wear a hat because I'm balding,
like under the wigs there's not much hair. So I
was like, I need to have a hat, and I
like I needed I actually got Jack because he's his
dresses better than I do. I was like, can you
just put together some books for me and we'll see
which one they like? Like I was freaking out because
I hate being seen at a drag like I just
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it feels really really weird. So yeah, he picked out
a couple of things out because I like my look.
Now I'm like happy with it. Yeah, but you know,
I think there were I don't know, it's definitely not
a spoiler, I don't think. But I wore foundation in
one of the one time as a boy, like I
put a little bit of foundation on and then as
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like you know, the days go on. You're like, I'm
not putting any more make up. It's like a poor
little abused, little bum hole, like everything started a thing,
so I didn't put any foundation on.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
So I'm wondering if bets and they come through on
the telly.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, is this like in the interviews when you're when
you're you know, sit down.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Oh I think that was all.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Filmed once at the end of the show.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Oh bad.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
So it's like, because every day.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
That makes a lot more sense because I just thought, like,
because you're always dressing the same thing, I'm like, oh,
they must just shoot the whole thing, right, Well, that's.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Like when they do like Kardashians, for example, they they
film the whole thing and then three months later they're
in a look and so for the whole season you'll
see them in a few different looks, but they talk
about the whole season in one day. Yeah, it makes
a lot more sense.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Yeah, you're confessional.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
It like happens every day, and it's it's therapy, Like
it's fully therapy, like they Yeah, and I actually for
a like we wrap up, I have to do a
massive shout out to all of the people that are
involved in getting this production to happen because I think
you watch it as an audience and you just see
the queens, Repaut Michelle and Reese and that is it.
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But the amount of talent and people behind the scenes
making this show happen is immense. Like I was blown
away and there's just people running around doing things everywhere,
and you're like, holy shit. And so you're trying to
and I, like me, I like to remember people's names
as best as I can. So I'm trying to remember
everybody's name for your hello, good morning, even the security
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guard that like looks after the step I'm like, morning,
darl and like morning all these bitches again.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
But it's like I'm pats after everybody.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
In the production team because they did such a wonderful
job at not only making a great show, but like
wrangling us, because you know, keeping ten drag queens quiet,
that's a task.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Quiet together, concentrated, ready to go.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah yeah, especially some of those queens that are in
the cast.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Oh my god talking. I usual, to be honest, I
was one of the worst. I got in so much trouble.
One day I actually got separated from the rest of
the cast.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
That was every day in school, every day.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Yeah, yeah, They're like get in that room, and I
was like, oh okay, And all I was doing was
just making it a laugh, like we weren't even saying anything.
We were just laughing. And so I got put into
one room and they shut the door on me and
they told me to sit in there quietly. And then
when I knew that the person who told me to
get out walked away, I just opened the door, just
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put my head out, and then it all started again.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
And I can imagine, like, now I know you're laugh
obviously from sitting here, very loud and hilarious.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I know, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Her laugh is fucking like it emits the loudest cackle
you've ever so all of you girls together, I can
just imagine.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
It's so interesting for like, for kind of a period
of time.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
When I got home after filming, I felt like alone,
because we'd always have a mind with us that was
like looking after us. We'd like open the door, like
do you have a singing? You'd have a slider note
under the door, like it's all real, it's good. So
when I got home, I was so like, oh my god,
there's no one watching me anymore.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Like slipping a note of Jack can.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, can I go out for that?
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Man? Like I've got to go do a ship? Is
my mic pack on? Oh I'm okay? Yeah, Oh my.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
God, and the mic I was having dreams about like
not having D MICD myself.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
I was like, oh my god, like MI because they're
so expensive.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
And the sound guys were like, oh, can you just
let us d MIC you And we're like, oh, can
we go to Pepe? And then like well like yeah,
wild wild reality TV.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Well on that note, a bit of p and pooh
chat to end the interview.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
It's always a great note, it.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Really is, Hannah, Thank you so much. Guys. We're so
excited Ripple's Drag Race down Under season two, July thirty
on stand. That's not long, that's not long to go
a couple week, couple weeks?
Speaker 1 (44:50):
How exciting. Well, we'll be seeing you at the premiere.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I love you both, and thank you so much for
having me on and I can't wait for you to
see the show.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Oh, we're so excited. Thank you for coming on. We
love you one.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Love you, Dallas, Thanks the right time, prim serious, I'm
the Glory Hall as well.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yes, pitch
Speaker 3 (45:12):
M hm
I haven't had some work done.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Yes, bitch, you have some card bumps. Yes, bitch my look, yes,
bitch that.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hijack vision.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi Tom, how are you? I'm good. I'm really good.
I'm better than last week. I'm not hungover today.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Oh good?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
And my eyes clearer.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Oh it has too. There's kind of a little bit
of a mask scar, right.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I'm feeling a bit masked. I'm kind of happy it happened.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, I have a scar above my left eye, like
in my eye brothers, you can't really see it, right,
So yeah, when I was like both masked, Yeah, I know.
Well when I was in you don't remember how it
was happened, did you? No?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm you know what. I've been having flashbacks and I
think I did it to myself. I think I was
literally had my phone in my hand and I was
like I had my phone and a glass of wine
in my hand and I was lifting it up and
I think my home my.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Phone like yeah, because it kind of did look like
a split, like it split open.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, it wasn't like a cut like a scratcher.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
And no, it was a huge wound.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm and it was like you know when you like
have the now clippers and you cut your pinky nail.
That was like the size that was tiny was mine though,
was so big. When I was in year one, I
like someone tripped me over. I like fell over someone,
and I like slid in the classroom and like bashed
my eye on the metal like leg of a table,
and I know, and there was like it was a
(01:20):
whole thing, and the teacher had to get the girl
from the office to come down, and then I had
to go to hospital and get stitches. Yeah, I had
to get stitched hayes of stitches. It was really bad.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I used to always do things like that though on purpose,
and not like actually hurt myself, but like just do
like makeup shit, always just to like get out.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Of oh my god. Yeah, but that was when I
was in one. When I was in high school, Oh
my god, I was at the nurse all the time, right, Yeah,
Like whenever it was pe or maths, I was like,
I've got a really because I used to get bad migraines.
It was the perfect excuse. Even when I didn't have one.
I was like, I've got a really bad migraine. Can
I just like lie down in here.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I'm just like what what is a migraine? Like, because
I've never had a migraine. People don't. Actually I don't
really even get headaches, to be honest, Oh I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I get a headache like every two or three days.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Only. You can't like dark room. You can't like have
any noise going on.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
It's different for different people. For me, it's more like
light noise is not so bad. It's light and sense
if I was going like, okay, well obviously that would
be annoying, but like, yes, obviously, but like it's more
light for me. And smells are like, oh my god,
smell sometimes I you know how some people like if
(02:28):
you've had a bad night on tequila, you can never
have tequila again if you've been like hung whatever. That's
me from certain smells of when I've had migraines in
the past, So I like remember it and then I
get triggered and it will either bring on a headache
instantly or I feel so sick from it. So like
certain smells from when I've had a bad migraine like
kill me.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
What's the trigger smell for you?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
One of them is a tuberose candle, like any tuberos scent,
but like it's so it's so like strong and delicate
and like flowery. That's a weird one. But then there's
like other smells, smells like of like food or whatever.
It's Oh my god, it's just so bad. But yeah,
some people like they literally can't see, they can't look
(03:08):
see in front of them. I get really like and again,
people have different places. Mine always at the back of
my head and in my neck and shoulders and like
the top of my head.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
They're the worst. But anyway, yeah, man, well I had
a little bit of a headache after I hit my eye,
but that's the closest thing. I kind of.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Well, I've had a really good week. Not to gloat,
I give me some good Well. I break from work
and so I went down to Melbourne for a few
days to see Harry Potter. Oh my god, it was amazing.
The Harry Potter play.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
The movie. Oh there's a play.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Are you do you Live under a Rock? Did you
know there's a Harry Potter play?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I'm not. I'm not. I don't know a lot about plays.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Okay, So it's basically a musical because there's like music
and dancing, but there's no really like singing there's heaps
of magic in it. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
It's a magic in it. Yeah, and a live play.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Uh huh, well that's like that's like magic magicians, you know,
so basically is not a magician with is it now?
But I'm saying it's like in real life, you see
a magician in real life.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Okay, it's just like that, but they're.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Actors doing the magic. They're not magicians, right, Yeah, And
so it's that. It's like it's called Harry Potter and
the Curse Child. It's there's like in Broadway, London, Melbourne.
It's like the biggest play in the world, and there's
like a thing that they you have to renovate the
the theater that it's in before you can put it
on because it's like, oh so it's like it looks
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like Hogwarts kind of.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So all they play all the.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Wallpaper was like Harry Potter wallpaper in the whole theater.
The carpet was Harry Potter carpet. They had like stained
glass windows on the either side of like the stage.
I was only there for like two or three days. Yeah,
it was like a film snapchip. It was just it
was amazing, and they do like I was trying to
work out the whole time, like the like tricks, because
(04:59):
when I go to am musical, do you ever do this?
I don't know if other people do this. So when
I met like a musical, I'll try and like watch
how they do a quick change, or like watch how
they'll like make something appear, and or I'm like into
the behind the scenes stuff, but what they do on stage,
like always trying to pick it out, yeah kind of yeah,
And like when I was there, I was like trying.
(05:22):
I knew the Lodge of Magic was going to happen.
I didn't know what, though, And so whenever I was
could like see something or they were doing something, I
was trying to work it out, or just after it happened,
I was trying to work it out. So there's like
one scene where I'm not really giving anything away. But
you know in the movies, have you seen the movies?
I love the movies, same they do. There's this thing
called flu powder where they like travel between fireplaces or whatever. Yeah,
(05:45):
so I think that's kind of the vibe in this.
They like travel through or they enter the Ministry of
Magic through like a London red phone box, you know,
you like, you know you put over that, yeah, you know,
you put your finger into like get the coins out
once you finish your call. Bodies. Actors were disappearing into that,
and I was like what it was just mind blowing crazy,
(06:06):
like I didn't know how that. You saw them walk
to it and they were in robes and then all
of a sudden, the robe get sucked into the little
tiny quin hole. Actors aren't there. It was amazing, like,
oh my god, it was amazing, and like things were
disappearing and books talk and like it's just amazing talk.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Good.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You know. I'm auditioning for a musical on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Oh my what musical?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I don't think I should. I'm now just say because
if I get the part and then they want to
do like an announcement that I'm in it, I'm I'm
already announced.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Can you give us a clue?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Well, well, I actually hadn't heard of the musical.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Is it a new musical?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah? No, I don't actually know. I hadn't heard of it.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I'm a musical officionado.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I know you we need to like run lines together
because audition. I auditioned for a musical once and I
had it was a shoe. What was a horrible audition?
I erased it from my memory. I didn't remember any
of the lines. But yeah, so I've got to get
ready for this, for this musical on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Well took us for that. Well Jack, let's bring in
today's doll, today's guest.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Oh my god, I'm too excited.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
So during the week, Yes, Drag Race Down Under Girls revealed,
the cast, revealed the queen's wait, sorry, they were revealed.
How stupid I.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Got it right? Come on?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Revealed some amazing queens that I know that I'm friends
with it are on there, so excited for them, and
then obviously some other queens newsic Kiwi ones, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Who cares about them?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
They're gonna lose.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
No, we love it.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
We can't, no, no, no, to be fair before we
start ketamine one last year, she was a key week.
We've got to have an Australian. Yeah, yeah, we've got
to have an Australian this year. Anyway, that's my own
personal opinion. Would you like to introduce your friend?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Would we have the lovely, the gorgeous, the incredible, just
the incredibly talented Hannah Conda, Welcome to Hey Do, Hey
do Hi? How are Yeah, We're fabulous? How are you?
More importantly thrilled?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You know, like a superstar now, I know, before we start,
I feel like you have been sitting on this secret
for so long, because when did you guys film forever ago? Right?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, we filmed in end of January February.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
When we film months ago?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's wold. It feels like it feels like
a long time. It really has, because you're kind of
sitting on this massive secret that you can't tell anybody about,
and you know, the rumor mill goes wild, and then
everyone's asking you about it and you're like, no, I
have no idea.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah I know, but you were you were good.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I have to say, out of everyone, you were probably
the best, because I feel like, even like we've been
friends for a while, and even when I've said stuff
to you, because I've obviously we all hear the rumors
and then you're you're like you're like, oh no, no, yeah, no, no,
You're like I wish. You're like, yeah, look, I wish.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
One day, one day, maybe you never know, if I'm
lucky enough. Yeah, if they if they see that you know,
I've got potential maybe, but you know, I really tried.
And I tell you. One of the funniest stories though,
is there is someone that I feel really bad about.
Someone still told them that I went away for a
nose job. So I carried on that story when I
(09:21):
got back.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I would have been kissed that you didn't bring me
with you.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, we would have had to go together. But so
I said, but oh, yeah I did. I had a
nose job. And they're like, oh, it's so straight, we
love it. And then they went I got a nose
job as well because they thought that like I did,
and they like really impressed, but then I don't like.
I think they nose looks great, like they look beautiful,
but apparently they're not happy with it. But I'm like, oh,
I feel really bad that you thought that you should
(09:46):
get a nose job because I did, but I didn't.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Want Was this another queen or was this just like
some random.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
No, just just just a punch our friend.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, so someone got a nose job because they thought
that you had a nose job, but you didn't have
a nose job. And now they have a nose job.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
You know, they have a nose job, So I'm really sorry.
Maybe you will get a nose job. I don't know.
They seem to go back in new faces with when
when they're asked back, so they never get asked back, but.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Also with the same nose, like didn't they didn't they
cotton on?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Yeah, she kind of shows like how much they paid attention.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You know, maybe they couldn't tell with the contouring.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, well look, you know, I think I do pride
myself in a nice contoured nose.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I was just I just remembered this just before we
started recording. You put me in drag the first time,
really kind.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Of your mom, like your mom.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
It was track name again, I can't remember it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Jacqueline, Jacqueline Regime, that's right. And it was with a
good old, good old all right hand all right. Yeah,
that was a fun time. And I tell you, I've
never put eyeliner on anybody. It just went on so smooth,
and it just shows how well you take care of
your beautiful skin. That's the biggest I was like, I
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was just went on so like it.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Was like I was like, what just why were you
getting into drag? What was it for? Just for lolls?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
What that's like an interview slash, you know, embracing queer
culture kind of talk show that all right.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Hey d it's called Drag it Out, Drag it Out.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, And so I was the drag artist and Matt
was asking all the questions and stuff, and it was
a really fun time. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
It was fun. It was very fun that that big
yellow wig I looked a bit like.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
A beautiful Yeah, and your lips as well, Like we're
like lips sisters.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
So I'm going I'm going.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
To do look less voluptuous than normal.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I'm on my way to the clinic next week. Great,
I've got to ba.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
I'm ready for some botox and some lip right, all.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
That all that reality star cash money.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Now, well, you know, noodles for a month though.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Now, speaking of jacketing into drag the first time, I guess,
let's like should we just go back, Like when did
you start drag? When was the first time you got
into drag? How long have you been doing it?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I started in like I think it was two thousand
and nine where I started doing drag officially.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Prior to that, like I'd done lots.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Of dress ups at school and like going to parties.
There's a photo of me when I was like sixteen
or seventeen, when I was a saloon girl, which is like,
you know, like a Western saloon girl. I had like
this big bee hive thing and I had like yeah,
you know, it was like google saloon girl, you know. Yeah,
So I did that. But like really getting into it
(12:32):
was in two thousand and nine when I went out
to the Court and I saw all these wild creatures
roaming the stage of the Court Hotel in Perth, and
I was like, what the fuck is that? And then yeah,
I befriended a drag queen, Ruby Jules, who had just
started and she's like, you need to give it a go,
like you need to give the go and I was like,
I'll do it one night one night, and so I
went down. She put me into drag one night only
(12:55):
on the on the Wednesday at the Court Hotel for
amateur drag and I wanted to win because you get
a fifty dollar bar card and like, being a poor
teenager or like eighteen year old, you're like, I.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Need the bar card totally.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I yeah. So I went in and the dragline hosting
at the time she did not let me win. She's like,
you need to perform in Yeah, she said, you need
to perform in both shows. And I was like, both shows,
there's only one. You come in for the last one
and you win. Like come on, She's like, nah, I'm
overruling that. No, you can't win. This is going to
this other girl. And I was like, oh what. So
(13:26):
the next week I went back and I fucking did
both shows and I won and yeah, and I got
a fifty dollar bar card and I was like, so
got drunk. And then I decided that, you know, I
loved it and I wanted to keep going with it,
and here we are twelve years later. It was hectic.
So I did that, couldn't I'd never dance, they'd never
been in a show. I never like anything like it,
and yeah, I just fell in love with it. It
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was just wild.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
So how long from when you did the comp to
when you're in your first show paid gig.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
It was actually quite quick. It was maybe four months,
five months because there was it was slim pickens at
the time, so you know, and it's not like what
drag is like today, where everyone wants to be with
drag queens and be around them, you know, the drag
queens were like the freaks that the gays would gore
cat and be like these things again. But they enjoy
it and they clap along because you know, they it's
(14:14):
a part of our family and our community. But yeah,
you were never like you never, It wasn't what it
is where you know, all the boys wanted to date
you and stuff, and you know, being a young gay boy,
you wanted to be touched by every single person you
met and they go, oh you do drag yuck.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Oh I don't want any part of that.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Wow. So it wasn't like.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
That back then. Only yeah, years ago. So yeah, is
it not like that?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It wasn't like that back then, you bitch.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
No, But that's what I mean. Like, no, as I said,
only ten years ago, Like, that's not that long ago
for people to like, for it to have changed now
that you say, like people are into it and it's
not a thing that fases them.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, like it. I think that's an important thing that
you know, how quickly and how rapidly things have changed.
And it wasn't that long ago that you know, the
idea of having a big drag show kind of like
drag race down under let alone the world is like
it was not a theme, Like no one would have
really thought that it would catch on like it has
and be embraced. It's exciting and I'm so glad that
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it is taken on because we kind of are you know,
we're a very important part of our community, right.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I mean I've said this to you before, like drag
queens of the community of like my second moms are
you are like my second mom because you kind of
you take us under your wing, whether you know it
or not. That this is at least how I feel,
especially with you, I feel like you were just a
shining light whenever because obviously as well, when you start
going out as a young gay boy, there's all the
experimentings going on and it can be a bit hit
and miss, and it can be safe and not safe.
(15:41):
And I feel like someone like you you've always been
like a pillar of safety. Whether you've known that or not,
that's really what you are. I think to me and
so many other people in the community.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh that means the world. But like it is our job.
We are kind of like we are the sort of
safety in it, you know, where people that don't feel
like they fit in or don't feel like they've got
a safe space to be. It's always the drag queens
that kind of go up to someone that's sitting there
alone and just go, hey, how's it going and what's true?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Or protect like go into fight people. Like years ago
someone got like bash on Offestree and cocoa this guy,
Yeah remember that, Like you guys go into five people.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, all the time. Like I've had moments where I've
been at venues and so there was a beautiful young
Aboriginal boy that was kind of being targeted by a
few people in the in the audience. So I went
up and I was like, you're right, what's happening? And
she's like, I'm just they're not being very nice. And
I was like, well, you know who are? They show
me who they are? And so I did, and it's like,
(16:43):
I don't tell security because he was scared that he
was going to get kicked out because unfortunately, there's a
lot of profiling that goes on with in security systems,
so we're constantly kind of talking to venues and stuff
to fix that kind of stuff up.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
But I went straight up to security and I was like,
these kids.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Out, now, you know what? The little k the kid
to drink and you know, made sure it was all okay,
because you know, I think it's our job, because we
do have some kind of power and pull in these
ven years, that we use that to make sure that
everybody's feeling safe.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
As long as I've known you, I feel like you've
really been one of the queens that's throughout the most
that has really advocated for people and has just spread
such love and enjoying positivity. Is on your on socials,
in real life, in the clubs. Is that something that's
always been very important to you, Because as long as
I've known you, that's that's kind of what I've known
of you the most. Is is you spreading this kind
(17:34):
of positivity and you've never been one which I've never seen,
like on stage, even when you're like you're dragging people,
it's always in you're still lifting them up at the
same time. It's never you're never hearing tearing them down
to like a horrible point like some people can tend
to do. Has that always been something that's important to you?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I always try and always have tried to operate out
of a place of being like kind and respectful and loving.
You know I've had slip ups, absolutely, but I think
it's it's definitely natural for me to be nice and
to be welcoming to people. I like talking to all
different types of people to hear their stories because.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You know, you never know what you're going to learn
from somebody else.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And also when you have people come in that aren't
used to our venues and our homes and the way
that we work, you know, the last thing I want
to do is isolate anybody or make them feel scared
about coming because with that means that people that are
heterosexual are going to be coming in to our venues,
and I want everybody to be there because that's what
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equality is about, is that we're all together, we're all celebrating.
So if someone's being a bit disrespectful, the last thing
I want to do is to shoot them down to
a point where they go, oh my god, and it
turns them into like being hateful. I want to make
sure that like you kind of training them. I was
saying to my partner Jack the other day, I was like,
you know, when you when people will acknowledge that they've
(18:58):
made mistakes or they've done things that aren't quite right,
or they still learning.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
It's kind of like training a dog.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You know, when the dog does the right thing, you
give it a treat when you go good work, well done,
and you encourage that behavior. And I don't feel it's
productive to go, oh, you've done the right thing and
smack it. You know, you want to encourage that that
growth and that way. You know, that encouragement to go, Okay,
yeah you fucked up, but we can do this better
(19:26):
and this is how and then hopefully they start running
with that and you know, encouraging them along the way.
And I think that's a very important part of my
drag and what I like to do is that seeing
everybody as humans and we're all trying to make our
way in this wild, wild world. If I can be
a little bit of a beacon of light for people
or you know, be a guide for anybody, I'm so
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happy to be that.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
And a treat for a good gay to gay bar.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's like a shot of fireball or a vodka soda.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
You dog gets a little liver pigs here, I wanted
to ask. I was talking to Instagram, like I love
a drag queen when they have like one look that
is their vibe, Like remember bossco in Drag Race had
like the point of whew last season. Yeah, you know,
like Tricksy has the iconic makeup, yours is like the
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iconic makeup. Look, you know that's anaconda. How long did
it take to get that vibe that was your You're like,
this is me?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
I think there's been elements of it that.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Have sort of, you know, been growing over the years.
But I really think I settled into sort of what
my face is now and what I paint now through
Lockdown actually, and that's kind of where I really finessed
the things I like. To be honest, it came out
of being a little bit lazy because I was like
I didn't want to put as much makeup on. I
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didn't want to be drawing cut creases, which is kind
of that severe line and stuff. All of that. I
was like no interest anymore. I just like this soft,
smoky sort of thing, but still very drag. So what
has come to be my face now that I love doing,
which definitely developed in Lockdown being really late?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Right, how long does it take you now?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well, especially after good old drag Race, I can get
ready in like an hour, smack it on.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I got in I did drag for the first time
about three or four weeks ago, and Danny Issues did
my makeup and it took her two hours, like just
because it was my first time and we were chatting
and stuff, but like it took so long, and I
was like, you got you guys do this every single
or like you know, like every couple of times a week.
And she's like, yeah, yeah, but but you love like
she like loves it. It's therapeutic. It's part of the process.
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It's like fun. It's not like a task.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
It's not like she's fabulous painting.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
She's amazing.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I looked so good.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Myself.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I'll show you some photos, like I looked hot because
I was like my vibe was like I really wanted
to have like have you you know, have you seen
outfit of like Paris Hilton DJing, Like heaps of sparkles.
That was my vibe. I was like, the aesthetic Isaris
Hilton DJing. And I just couldn't find the right costume.
And then like last minute, like four pm, she was
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coming to mine. At five four pm, I like ran
to Patty's Markets and just had a meltdown. And then
in the back corner of like this that found this
like the perfect outfit, and the woman was like, You're born.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
For this, and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
And then I was like living such the fantasy that
I was like I wanted. I really wanted like a
signature scent, like a signature drags.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
So I went on, yes, what's your Olympia Legend by
Parker Raban. Oh, you'll often smell that permeating many venues
on Oxford Street.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Well, I like went to Mecca and was like smelling
all the girls perfumes. And I was like, because I
was in it a full bottle, I just got two
little testers and all night was topping it up. I
was like living the fantasy, living in a fantasy.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It was.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It was so fun.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Can I show you though? I found online taking because
I went back into like the days of old where
I used to steal my sister's fragrance and controversial these days.
But Gwen Stefani's Harry's Uku Lovers perfumes do you remember them? Yes?
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I found one. It's the coconut one.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Is it good? No?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
It was awful now it's like it's still good, like
it's just not what I remember. But I got it,
so that's there.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
If I smell, if I smell from coconut at Stone
all tonight, I yes, good totally. You know what, I
know what I was obsessed with. I loved your promo
video that you put up on your socials for Drag Race,
had you explaining your cackle, how you were talking about
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the grit that you've gotten over the years. I just
feel like you are so so likable, and I know
you can't tell us absolutely anything, but I just want
to wish you all the best of luck because I
think you're going to win.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
A thank you. Look, it was it was so much
fun to do, like because I've heard, you know, there's
lots of girls now that have been through the machine
and they all talk about their experiences and some of
them have like didn't enjoy it and whatever.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
So I was really nervous going in. But how COO
this time?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And I think, to be honest, you know, whatever the
journey holds for me in there, I feel like a
winner because I got there.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
That I've only started watching Drag Race since Lockdown. I
moved in with my friend who was like obsessed with it,
watched every season like a hundred times, and I had
never like I'd watched it here and there, but was
never like obsessed with it. No, I'm obsessed. But he
was like telling me all the ins and outs and
like saying that some queens like watch every single season
ever and try and do heaps of research. Can you really,
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as someone that's done it, can you actually like do
that where you like research and try and prepare by
watching old stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Like you can to a degree, Like you know that
there's going to be some sort of snatch game.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Do you know that there's going to be a design challenge?
You know that there's going to be stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
To a degree, you can prepare because you can practice
a character, you can learn how to sew slash hot Blue,
and you can also kind of maybe start writing some
lyrics and playing around with that. So you can to
a degree. But I find that if you do over prepare,
I think it could inhibit your journey because you kind
of want to just be in the moment and like
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you never know what's going to pop up or what
they're going to throw at you. So I think that
was something that I tried to maintain throughout the course
of it, was to be just open minded to it all.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Did you know before you went in, I can sew okay?
I remember so well. My favorite thing about last season
of doubt Under was oh, my god, mind blake, what's
her name? With the Maxi Maxi Goesico. I had no
fucking idea how to say, but I knew I was
going on Rupel' drag, right, so I went and took lessons.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
It was like, yeah, my.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Favorite thing of the whole season. It was like it
all the time.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Do you know she's speaking the truth about Yeah? I learned.
I learned how to sew not very well. I had
a pattern like that brought in with me just in case,
and it was one of those things I knew I
needed to have in my back pocket, just in case,
whether or not it works or if I ever got
to do it, you have to watch, but it was
it was camp.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Why what's it like for you? Obviously you can't tell
us like what happens in the first episode, But what's
it like when the first time you see Rue he
opens the door and goes get a gooda gooday, and
like comes down the stairs, Like what's that like? Because
he's like it's freaking RuPaul.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, well you're like, well, first thing, we were like,
oh fuck, she's really here. Right, it's not a girl,
she's real, but like she walks down and it's this
is the presence about Rue that I just was so
excited to see him. I actually met her in La
at drag Coon maybe in twenty fifteen or sixteen, and
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she was really lovely, but this was just so different
to see her work.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Like she is a business woman.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
She is there for a job, and I respect that,
and there's just a lot of like warmth that she exudes,
and she's interested in us, she's interested in our stories.
And I really respected that because I didn't know what
that was going to be like. But yeah, she when
she's on the set, she's on set. You do your job,
and like she's happy.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I always find that so fascinating that she always does
seem so interested in each individual. And there's so many franchises,
there's so many queens and she I mean, and this
comes across on TV. I guess I don't know how
it is in person, but like she always seems to
really care a lot about each queen that comes through,
And I'm like, hey, aren't you drained babes?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, I know, like, but I think maybe she just
focuses on the girls that she's like working with at
the time, but she is really thoroughly invested in us,
and you know, asked this question she knows and like
it really shocked us because, like she mentioned on our
first meeting, remembering us from our audition tapes and stuff,
and you know, you think, oh my god, she doesn't
watch the auditions, but she remembers things from the auditions,
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and I was like, wow, you like you are invested
in this experience and who we are, and that was
really really special. And the same for Michelle and Reese.
They are just such lovely people that are willing to
give of themselves to guide us and make sure that
we're doing our best. And I think the one thing
that I learned from the whole experience was that, you know,
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while we're competing against each other, the real competition is.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Between us, Like is between ourselves and us.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
As long as you are making sure you're bettering yourself
and doing what you're doing and doing it well, and
each time that you get a critique or something, you
take it on board and you work with it, that's
the growth they want to see. It's not about kind
of who's better than each other, although it is, it's
not really you know.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
What I mean?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Well, if you were to win,
what would you want to spend all the money on?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Wow? Far out? Okay, so I would I really want
to get a car, Like I want to get a
new car because first, Zicki swift and I just want
to upgrade her because she's Taylor. The Swift has dug me. Yeah, Taylor,
and she's done me so good, but she really needs
to have a rest.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
And so I would love to get a new car.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
But I also kind of, you know, I want to
invest a little bit back into Drag if I were,
but also, you know, to give back a little bit
to the community. And there are you know, some organizations
that I'd love to support. One being Black, which is
an Aboriginal queer organization here in Sydney which looks out
to Queer First Nations people and making sure that they're
thriving and telling their stories, which I love. So I
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really want to be able to donate to organizations like
that and just give back a little bit to our
community because they've supported me.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
So we absolutely love it about you. You're just the
absolute sweetest and I'm just I'm just so excited to watch.
We're both going to the premiere.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You are flex, Yeah, we are. I'm going to be
doing the red carpet, so we'll speak on the red carpet.
And I was like, to Jack do the red carp
and he goes, I'd rather not be media. I'd rather
be a celebrity and walk.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I did not say that.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
You paraphrase it, but it was something like celebrity. I
think you said like, I would rather just walk.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Right in this industry for ten years. Let me be up.
I want to wear something it's drag race. I want
to take advantage of it and wear something black.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Do you know what will be funny is I'll interview
you because I'm interviewing for the podcast, so I'll interview
you for the podcast. I'll be like, thanks, thanks Hannah, Okay,
thanks Jack, Vision from Hate, Hello from Hadel.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Do you know what you're gonna wear? I feel like
it's gonna be glamor.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Oh yeah, I just picked up my fabric, which and
gorgeous gold with some blues and purples in this sequence.
It's really really bad, usual but really pretty, and I'm
going for like a kind of drop dress with some
rouging at the top. I'm gonna go up, my hand's
gonna be up, and I'm hopefully going to do like
it and Nicole Smith kind of vibes like messy and
(30:51):
slowey and ye yeah, or.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Like you've just thrown it together but really it took
four hours.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, effortless, effortless. Can I give you what my emma whiz?
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Can I give you a carpet tip? I've done a
lot of red carpets. There is nothing worse than when
the person that's interviewing all the persons being interviewed has
bad breath, because you get really dry, you get really
dry mouth on a carpet. There's lights, there's no water,
there's a lot of waiting. My advice is take some mince,
even if like I'm not a bad breath person, but
I always take mints, and like a little water bottle.
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Maybe have like a minder, or take a bag that's
big enough to put like a pop top of water, like.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Like this water bottle.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Thise that's too big you'll need just like a little
You could even do a shtick. You know those handbags
that you can put a goon sack of wine in
that and that could be a stick.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
The bracelets let.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Anyway, Yeah, just to save you from dry mouth or
like dry breath because yeah, because you're close.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
You know, I didn't want to interrupt you spiel.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
But the three things that I carry all the time
breath mints, good fragrance, and my asthma PA like you know,
she's she's ready, but she also does have the packet
of cigarettes.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Fready, chick, I was an asthmatic smoker.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You're always around to give me a fag at the
end of the night. Always straight, you are, you are,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
You're one of the few that I will give a
cigarette to. You know where the fact that they cost
five dollars a cigarette these days wild?
Speaker 3 (32:16):
But you know wild it is.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
You know, I know I have stopped smoking, but I've
realized I haven't stop smoking. I've just stopped buying them. Yeah,
so you're.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Only getting them for free, You're just bumming them from
other people.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I've become that bitch, I know.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Now is there again? I know you can't say much,
but like, what's the is there rules about like how
much how many bags you can take or can you
just bring as much shit as you want.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
There is a bag sort of limit, so you get
your tape. I think it was like three bags and
two boxes that's what we got to take. So you
had to kind of make sure that everything fits in
there nicely. I don't know how, but like for some reason,
you know, when you're packing up at the end of
your cycle and experience, everything seems to expand like yeah,
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like yeah, but it's like when you're packing to go,
you're like, bam, everything fits in. It was beautiful. It
was packed wonderfully. Like tell you, the fun part was
going to the hotel quarantine in New Zealand and having
to have all that shit in your hotel room. Oh
my gosh, what did you.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Do in quarantine? I always love to know what people
do in the two weeks.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
It is so weird because you feel like you have
no contact or like you can't be a person. You
just kind of like they just make sure that they
stay away from you and you just do your thing.
I did a lot of walking around a circle on
the rooftop of this hotel, which is fun, like just
listening to music. I go out for a little cigarette
break every now and then, which was nice. But you
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have to book in and so sometimes like a day
would be booked up so you couldn't go and you'd
be like dying. I watched a lot of like movies
and TV on my phone. I brought my little Google
Chrome casting to try and put on the Telly, but
it wouldn't work, so I ended up watching a lot
of New Zealand TV.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Oh at the Multi channel as well, that was fun.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
In the morning, there was six am there was a
lady doing aerobics and I really got onto her.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Was it like O style aerobics vibe?
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Yeah, kind of, but.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
She was by herself and she was always in like
a flared like disco dot patch and she was just
smiling at the camera, just doing things, and I was
living so I filmed her so I could like do
it when I got back home as well, because I
knew i'd lose access to the Multi.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
TV, so I really wanted to make sure I had it.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
So you're still doing the aerobics.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Oh yeah, babe, still still whirl in her She's there's
only two videos, but they're long.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
So yeah, did you audition for season one or you
just they didn't do it and then just waited for two.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I did I did audition for season one, you know,
apparently I got quite close to being a part of it.
But and when I got the no call, because I
got kind of a semies but then it came back
and they were like, oh I was not this time girl,
And I was like so demous, stated, yeah, it was
a false positive basis very bad. I was so devastated.
(35:05):
But in that period of time that, like when it happened,
like I reassessed my relationship with wanting to do Drag Race.
I was like, I went from thinking I needed to
do it to changing my perspective of maybe it's something
I want to do and if it's meant to happen,
it will happen. And I think that kind of set
me in good stead. So when I got the call
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about this season, I was very relaxed. And I was
freaking out that I had to get so much done,
but like, I was very relaxed in terms of knowing
the fact that well the Universes said yeah, this is the.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Time, this is They were like, can you please apply
because we'd really like you. Is that what you mean?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
No, Like I was going to apply. Actually, to be honest,
I wasn't going to apply for this season. Yeah, for
this second season. I wasn't going to do it. I
was in a really bad place in my mental health
and we were in lockdown and I was like, I
don't think this is right for me. But then I
was like partner Jack was like, you know what, You've
got nothing else happening literally right now, why don't you
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just put the chime in? And it's like the audition video.
Hats off to anybody that's done it. It is thorough,
and it is long.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
And isn't it like twenty minutes long or something?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, it's like twenty five minutes. I think you have
to do like acting challenge, sewing, you have to do
ten looks, you have to do all these questions and
all this stuff. It's very, very thorough, and I take
my hat off to anybody that does it because it
is such a like in itself, is such a drag
race challenge. But we had nothing else to do, so
I gave it a go, and I actually by the
end of it, I loved it. It got me back
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into loving drag because I wasn't loving it at the time.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
And I sent it in.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I was like, look, if it's meant to happen, it'll happen,
and then it happened.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
And when you got the call? Yes, were you like
or did you? I don't know because I was watched
like you know when people get like they get a
call from like their agent in a movie that they
got a role or whatever. Was it like that? Or
were you like who's this random unknown number? Yes?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
What?
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Like? Where were you? How did you find out?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Well, because I've seen all these videos of all the
other contestants that like have their reaction videos to getting
the call, like that's like got to be staged.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Because I was getting.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Ready for a Christmas show down in Darling Harbor with
Chris bur and Carmen. We were back to go do
our Christmas show and I get this phone call from
this number and I was like hello, and they're like, oh, hi, Hannah,
would you like to be on Drag Race?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Oh, babes, are you sure? Are you sure?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
And they're like yeah, no, we really, we're really keen
and like we would love to have you on the car.
So I was like, oh, well it's you sure, Okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
I'll do that, but I've got a run. I'm just
about to pup down to Darling Harbor and do a
Christmas show. So you know, I was like, thanks, love
you guys, speak to you soon, and then like popped
off down and do a Christmas show and trying to
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keep myself at bay.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I know, because I imagine how excited you would be
and then you've got to actually do a show and
remember things that you've been rehearsing. Like, my brain would
not be in it.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Oh bag. Sydney's bells were jingled so hard that day
because I was like just running on pure adrenaline and excitement.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
So who was the first person you told? Because obviously
you can't tell.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Me any right, I had to tell Jack, my partner, Honey. Yeah.
I rang him and I was like, bab's where on
what's happening? And he's like, you're joking. I was like, no,
I'm not serious, as like, oh fuck, We've got so
much to do, and he's like he's like a planner.
So he's like, right, let me know, I'm going to
start thinking of all these things. I was like, we
don't even know anything yet, and he's like, yeah, but
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I'll plan it. But he was really keen and excited,
so he he was the one. Yeah that I told I.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Love that, you know how like someone's like won an
Oscar or like just been nominated, they go like Oscar
nominee Nicole Kidman, or they would say an what you
need to make sure now anytime anyone announces you onto
stage before a show. Drag Raced down Under season two's
Hanah Konda, come on, you know what I mean, Like
you got to incorporate it. It's like part of your
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name now yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
It's Anaconda down goes down Under season cheek just and
had a conduct alway Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
And then obviously if you get like a finalist, you
can be like season two Down Under finalists Hanaiconda or
winner your Season two down the winner like updated obviously because.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
It's what Ma ma Rees says. It's all about branding,
you know, branding, branding.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Branding, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, I'm very excited for you all to see it,
and I'm really keen on everybody getting to know a
little bit more about down Under Dragon. I think the
world needs to see a little bit more of Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I think that's wonderful. I think you're the perfecting to
do it. We just like thank you, I have a question.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I have one more question, Hannah, one more questioned. Everyone,
I feel like always talks about the drag looks, the
runway looks, whatever. How did you decide on your boy
look for when the interviews because you have to wear
the same outfit for the whole thing for all the
interview bits. How did you decide to your boy look
for that?
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Ques?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Well, so I had to wear a hat because I'm balding,
like under the wigs there's not much hair. So I
was like, I need to have a hat, and I
like I needed I actually got Jack because he's his
dresses better than I do. I was like, can you
just put together some books for me and we'll see
which one they like? Like I was freaking out because
I hate being seen at a drag like I just
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it feels really really weird. So yeah, he picked out
a couple of things out because I like my look.
Now I'm like happy with it. Yeah, but you know,
I think there were I don't know, it's definitely not
a spoiler, I don't think. But I wore foundation in
one of the one time as a boy, like I
put a little bit of foundation on and then as
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like you know, the days go on. You're like, I'm
not putting any more make up. It's like a poor
little abused, little bum hole, like everything started a thing,
so I didn't put any foundation on.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
So I'm wondering if bets and they come through on
the telly.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, is this like in the interviews when you're when
you're you know, sit down.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Oh I think that was all.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Filmed once at the end of the show.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Oh bad.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
So it's like, because every day.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
That makes a lot more sense because I just thought, like,
because you're always dressing the same thing, I'm like, oh,
they must just shoot the whole thing, right, Well, that's.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Like when they do like Kardashians, for example, they they
film the whole thing and then three months later they're
in a look and so for the whole season you'll
see them in a few different looks, but they talk
about the whole season in one day. Yeah, it makes
a lot more sense.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Yeah, you're confessional.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
It like happens every day, and it's it's therapy, Like
it's fully therapy, like they Yeah, and I actually for
a like we wrap up, I have to do a
massive shout out to all of the people that are
involved in getting this production to happen because I think
you watch it as an audience and you just see
the queens, Repaut Michelle and Reese and that is it.
(41:56):
But the amount of talent and people behind the scenes
making this show happen is immense. Like I was blown
away and there's just people running around doing things everywhere,
and you're like, holy shit. And so you're trying to
and I, like me, I like to remember people's names
as best as I can. So I'm trying to remember
everybody's name for your hello, good morning, even the security
(42:19):
guard that like looks after the step I'm like, morning,
darl and like morning all these bitches again.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
But it's like I'm pats after everybody.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
In the production team because they did such a wonderful
job at not only making a great show, but like
wrangling us, because you know, keeping ten drag queens quiet,
that's a task.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Quiet together, concentrated, ready to go.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yeah yeah, especially some of those queens that are in
the cast.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Oh my god talking. I usual, to be honest, I
was one of the worst. I got in so much trouble.
One day I actually got separated from the rest of
the cast.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
That was every day in school, every day.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Yeah, yeah, They're like get in that room, and I
was like, oh okay, And all I was doing was
just making it a laugh, like we weren't even saying anything.
We were just laughing. And so I got put into
one room and they shut the door on me and
they told me to sit in there quietly. And then
when I knew that the person who told me to
get out walked away, I just opened the door, just
(43:21):
put my head out, and then it all started again.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
And I can imagine, like, now I know you're laugh
obviously from sitting here, very loud and hilarious.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I know, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Her laugh is fucking like it emits the loudest cackle
you've ever so all of you girls together, I can
just imagine.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
It's so interesting for like, for kind of a period
of time.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
When I got home after filming, I felt like alone,
because we'd always have a mind with us that was
like looking after us. We'd like open the door, like
do you have a singing? You'd have a slider note
under the door, like it's all real, it's good. So
when I got home, I was so like, oh my god,
there's no one watching me anymore.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Like slipping a note of Jack can.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, can I go out for that?
Speaker 3 (44:07):
Man? Like I've got to go do a ship? Is
my mic pack on? Oh I'm okay? Yeah, Oh my.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
God, and the mic I was having dreams about like
not having D MICD myself.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
I was like, oh my god, like MI because they're
so expensive.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
And the sound guys were like, oh, can you just
let us d MIC you And we're like, oh, can
we go to Pepe? And then like well like yeah,
wild wild reality TV.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Well on that note, a bit of p and pooh
chat to end the interview.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
It's always a great note, it.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Really is, Hannah, Thank you so much. Guys. We're so
excited Ripple's Drag Race down Under season two, July thirty
on stand. That's not long, that's not long to go
a couple week, couple weeks?
Speaker 1 (44:50):
How exciting. Well, we'll be seeing you at the premiere.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I love you both, and thank you so much for
having me on and I can't wait for you to
see the show.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Oh, we're so excited. Thank you for coming on. We
love you one.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Love you, Dallas, Thanks the right time, prim serious, I'm
the Glory Hall as well.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yes, pitch
Speaker 3 (45:12):
M hm
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