Welcome back to the home of the Average Joes! After a long hiatus, the team is back and ready to roll. Join Josh, John, Tony, and Ryan as they dive into the latest in their hunting adventures and plans for the upcoming season.
This week, the crew discusses their participation in Ohio's public land lottery hunts, sharing their experiences and the excitement of being drawn for prime hunting spots. They also explore the importance of persistence, camaraderie, and the love for the great outdoors that keeps them going. Whether you're an experienced hunter or just starting out, this episode is packed with relatable stories, practical advice, and a reminder of why we all love the hunt. Tune in for a roundtable discussion, unique hunting memories, and insights into preparing for the season ahead. Stay tuned for details on the upcoming Average Joe Deer Contest and more exciting news from the HRX Family. It's time to get back to what we love!
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Music.
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And we're back. The home of the average Joes has been gone far too long.
Obviously. Obviously. It only took three takes or four takes.
But we are back, and we are going to get this train rolling again.
As Josh said, what do we got? Like 16 weeks left, and you said we got to fire
out, what, 36 of them is what you said? Just about, yeah. Yeah,
just about, something like that.
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All right. No, but seriously, in a serious note, it's been far too long.
We're glad to be back, glad to get rolling. and we got
some rejuvenation and it is it is time
to go what do y'all got to say say hi
to everybody we'll let everybody do a little round table to start no
anybody and the
silence i don't even know what to think
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busy man busy yeah watching watching
you guys on trail cameras getting stuff set up for me yeah
mowing grass yeah there we go all right well i guess since nobody else wants
us the round table we'll jump right in so this week we thought it'd be a good
idea here in ohio and i don't know what other states do it they do a draw for
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public land but specifically for,
their lottery hunts their lottery hunts for deer places to hunt deer animals in what type of areas.
Secluded secluded areas that deer like to
be preserves preserves there you go so we
had the opportunity before before a game
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this is why we blindfold you every deer hunting spot i'll
stop and this so we had the opportunity to go to one of these preserved drawings
and apply for them what was there probably 40 people two more no i don't know
40 50 yeah 50 so it was a pretty cool thing they're only they're only going
to draw 10 names and it may change per per location, per whatever,
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but we put four people in for the 10.
That room was pretty quiet leading up to number five, right?
And then what happened the next five calls out?
Well, you got drawn first, right? Yeah, I got drawn first, and what was John's first words?
Of course. Yeah, of course. Go figure, Ryan. Of all people. Yeah,
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Ryan, of all people. And then there was a guy or group drawn after then.
Yeah. And then no I was drawn after All right after yeah there was One between me and Tony.
And then you guys got drawn the next two. The last two. The last two.
So then the commotion in the room changed because we started hooting and hollering
because everybody brought a bunch of people.
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We were the only group that drew every person that we took, which was.
That's what happens when you're around Ryan. That's that Ryan Garrett look right
there. I thought we were going to have a Southern Ohio throwdown in the parking lot.
I really thought. if they didn't have the mean afterwards it would have
probably yeah it was it was
pretty fun i wanted to kick her ass it's like
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yeah i was mad at it yeah like i was mad at us like damn i mean if you think
about that like the the odds first of all were one in 40 or 50 whatever we said
it was and then and then to have the last five of 10 spots four of the five
be us four well i mean And it just proves your checks don't bounce.
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Hey, I need a loan while we're talking about that. Checks don't bounce. Yeah.
Anyways. Yeah. Moving on. I don't think that has anything to do with it.
No, it was a small donation you made to him before the drawing.
Yeah, I didn't make any small donations.
There was no bribery. A gentleman's handshake. No trickery, no nothing.
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But it was a lot of fun. It was pretty cool to go.
And then and then to make a game plan and I think really that's the reality the reality is is,
we wanted to talk about that because leading up to that point of going to that
drawing I mean we've gone out to the place that we're gonna hunt a couple times
I would say five maybe six times.
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Not including when we went out there a couple times for turkey
season but we really haven't gone out there
as much this year just because of being that
true average Joe right like yeah I don't like the pressure dear
i don't think he doesn't like
to work he doesn't like the the pressure of having no grass
cutting money yeah but it it's
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the average joe way i mean like we all we all got busy we all got work and and
that was the reality is is that's honestly like we said it's time to start firing
these off you know we want to make sure that when we say we're the home for
the average joe we want to give you guys the truth and the blunt of it you know
we had every intention of doing that when we talked about it in May.
And then really, life just happened. Football happened.
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Yard cutting happened. I mean, you name it, something happened.
But the reality is, is we're going to get back to it because you guys count
on us, maybe not necessarily to give you,
our insight, but to share the things that we go through to maybe help curve
your learning curve a little bit, as opposed to having to go through some of our same struggles.
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But the point behind that is, is bent out to the property that is a private
property that we can hunt.
All year long maybe five or six times but
not being so sure what that is we decided to get
in on this drawing because you guys had such good luck last year right like
you and john went i wouldn't say we had good luck we had a lot of opportunities
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opportunities for sure okay good luck in in the aspect of to go to go out there
and see deer and seem consistent a lot of action I would say though,
what caused that was the experience that John brought from his history of hunting with my lack of history,
where we went out, we were able to go out there and scout and set ourselves
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up for success to where we know this is where the deer are coming.
So that caused us to have, even though we didn't get to unalive anything,
still got to see a bunch of deer. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, you know, sometimes the, the unaliving is the best part, right.
But sometimes is, is the memories and, and what you're doing to create that.
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Because, you know, like, like you guys talked about last year,
like the, the laughter that you had, or the, the on edgeness of that chocolate
rack walking towards you when you hadn't shot your doe yet, you know,
cause I, let's talk about that a little bit.
But when you do these draw hunts, at least out here, anywhere through the state. This one.
Not all of them. Not all of them. Oh, okay. Just this one in particular. You have to take a doe.
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Earn a buck. Yeah, and you're earning a buck. I mean, so it really tests your.
Honesty? Honesty. Integrity. Your ethicalness, your ethicalness,
whatever you want to call it.
Because the reality is, is Josh, how hard was it for that chocolate rack to
walk right on by at 20 yards?
No it was definitely hard right it was really
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hard not to but then again you know going back
to the way i joke and said man i should have
did i should have did it but honestly we're just joking before this there's
no chance i would have i wouldn't want to risk that and plus my morals and my
ethics you know the way i was raised and the things i've done there's no shot
you know what i mean yeah but damn it was hard but yeah but if you think about
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if it was anybody else out out there with that,
you know, I'm not one, obviously not once in a lifetime opportunity,
but now two times in a lifetime opportunity, would they have done the same thing?
Don't know. Right. Well, I think that has to do with a lot of what we talk about today.
You know, we all deal with people in our jobs, right? Like as far as the society,
some people don't have to deal with the general public, right?
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Like in, in talking about dealing with the general public, you get to see all
facets of the general public and of the average Joe's.
And there are some people that, that ethical test.
May have been more than what i mean what did
the game warden say like take it take it there i mean that'd have been one heck
of a oops i mean we just i don't know i wouldn't even say we picked the time
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frame we picked was like peak rut so we seen a lot more bucks than we did doe,
and then like the does were already on alert because they're being run all over
there like you You, when you seen does, they were not really like singled out, right?
Like, like you, they were all on alert.
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There's, I mean, leaves up to our knees. Like it was definitely a different,
different experience this year. I think we're going to add it a little bit differently.
I think we're going to have a lot of success with it, but. We're definitely going different.
We're going at it different. I mean, December, right?
Like December. Well, December is our first one. we're going
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first in december december let's talk about what we
drew i mean that's last two weeks of the season yeah so
who knows what we will be dealing with you got to be careful i
mean you maybe well i guess yeah uh
i was thinking like they'll be getting ready to drop but
they don't drop here it's whatever hopefully i
already have a buck down and just that's dope in one time then
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yeah yeah because that's a thing like out there
where we all drew out of those don't
count towards our state limits so we're allowed six
deer six yeah so in the year
with a killing spree but wasn't didn't he say though that
those don't count towards the limit as long as it's before that
december 22nd no no no that was the tag the tag okay so yeah so i mean so i
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guess that's the other part when you do these drawings like we all sit here
and we talk about this stuff but like there's so many different rules and regulations
that go into these hunts like where you pay attention yeah Yeah,
where you can hunt, like even when we got the maps,
like you're looking at one map and one map says you can hunt here and another
map says you can hunt there.
If you're doing these drawings and you're doing them on public land,
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you better know where you're at because the biggest thing that they said in
these meetings is last year's controversy came on property lines. Yeah.
And so that's the one thing that obviously, if you're going to do these things,
you don't want to not have a chance the next year because of the fact that you
crossed that boundary or you crossed that ethical standard.
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And now you're dealing with something next year because of the fact that you
were on somebody else's property. pretty, but I don't know.
I think it, you know, you tried to twist our arms to all go last year.
We all like made excuses and whatever.
And I mean, up to the point of, it was 10 30 the night before and,
and talking about going and we're like, all right, what time is everybody going?
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And, and then we finally went, but like going, having all four of us draw and then,
and then like just kind of thinking about the opportunity that the four of us
get to really shut down essentially four weeks out there because we get two weeks for each group.
I mean, that's huge because they only, they only give, what is it?
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So it's two groups per week.
Five weeks. Yeah. Well, 10 weeks total, five, you get it in two week increments. Yeah.
So 10 weeks total. And out of the 10 weeks, we're going to shut down four. Yeah.
Yeah. So, I mean, like we're shutting down 40% of the, I mean, it's pretty crazy.
So we can kill 24 deer. Yeah.
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We need to set a goal. We need to kill at least half of that. Oh, we can.
Oh no, it is 24, but it's just us four. All of us. Yeah. Well,
that's the other thing we got to find out. Is it six total?
Yes. Or is it six per visit? We asked before we left. Yeah. It's six, six total deer.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because you can technically like you can shoot a doe in there,
our first go, and then our last go, we can use that doe towards it. So, yeah.
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So I think that, you know, that's kind of cool.
But then the other thing that's kind of cool is, is like talk about being average
Joes and the people that don't have places to hunt, right?
Like, I think this is an opportunity to really just talk about maybe checking
out your home turf, right? Right. No matter where you live in the United States,
some areas may be more plentiful for state property than others.
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But I mean, it's definitely worth the look because again, this cost,
what, $5 to get in for the drawing as a donation to that.
And the reality is, is that $5 donation turned out to be something pretty good
for us, at least for opportunity.
And I think that As an average Joe, can you ask for anything other than opportunity?
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Right. And I'd say right now is the time of the year, every year I see it.
And John and I talk about it every, you know, when it happens is everybody usually,
you know, I've hunted this property for 30 years. Now I lost it.
It's been sold or something like that.
And it's a really good opportunity. I won't say it's an excuse,
but to be able to say like, oh, I don't have land to hunt. I lost a property.
Well, it's out there if you look, right? Say, look at the DNR's website if you're
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in Ohio or wherever it is. Because if you look, there's opportunities there,
but you've got to be willing to invest.
An hour of our time we went out there what eight o'clock in the morning or something
like that to this place but and we all left by nine yeah it's luckily it was
very far yeah don't for us don't use the when if it happens i'm sure it's going
to happen to me eventually at one of my spots is hey i don't have permission
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to hunt here i guess i'm not hunting this year it's like no.
That's you know that's an obstacle you're facing but there's options out there
if you look and even further more than lotteries and stuff i mean there's public
land I was going to say, so take, yeah,
take that one step where you're talking about average Joe's wanting to maybe
check things off their bucket list or check, check an opportunity to hunt a
species that they may never be able to hunt.
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This is, this is a great way, maybe in a great way to segment into that,
that like being the average Joe, just because you may not be able to afford
an outfitter, you may not be able to afford something along those lines. You can always DIY it.
There's state, there's state property everywhere. So if you get a chance to
DYI it and it gives you a chance to maybe check something off your bucket list,
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you may have to do a little more homework, right?
Especially if you're traveling 20 hours like hypothetically out west.
But the opportunity as an average, Joe, because of what's out there for state
property is, I don't want to say plentiful, but it's there.
It's there. But you also, you know, sometimes, you know, like for me,
I'll speak on myself in particular.
I struggle asking for help. I don't like it. I'm too prideful even when I know
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I need it. But when I got into hunting, you know, I was fortunate enough to
where all I had to do was ask a family member and they had plenty of land for me to hunt.
And, you know, sometimes just asking like, Hey, I know you have some land.
I know you don't hunt out there. Would you mind if I come out there?
Even if it's five acres, you know what I mean? Just ask. All you got to do is ask.
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Right. But you also don't want to ask, ask, ask, ask, ask if they tell you no,
no, no. Cause you don't want to burn a bridge. Right. No.
Just, you know, like what I did for this place, you know, it's family,
family. But I said, hey, look, just getting into this, I'd love to be able to
hunt out here. Absolutely.
Without, you know, the guy didn't hesitate, but I also said,
you know, if you need help when I'm out here or when I'm not out here with your
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business, what he does or anything, I will give you my labor for free just for
the ability for you, you know, for you saying, yeah, you can hunt out here. Yeah.
You know, trade some of that. If you're a craftsman, you know, like Langster, right?
He, uh, masonry, I think, right? Yeah. You know, that's, that's hard work.
But if you can use something, tools of your trade that you do,
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say, hey, look, you're building a deck, I got you.
Yeah. Lay it out. I'll build it. I'll help you out. I appreciate it.
Don't be afraid to barter at that point.
Exactly. Sometimes, again, that opportunity, because of monetary reasons,
you may not have it, but if you can barter it, you may have it.
So you may say, hey, I can't go out and lease.
I can't go out and do this stuff. But you can maybe –.
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Address it in different avenues that you wouldn't have thought just by being open-minded.
And I think that that's really what it comes down to for us when we're talking
about being an average Joe.
An average Joe just means you can't be closed-minded. You have to be willing
to open whatever door it takes to give you that opportunity,
right, wrong, or indifferent.
I mean, it sounds like the house is going to crash on us above us. I mean.
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Yeah they uh they have they're having a good time but but
again here that's another reason right talk about an average joe this
is an opportunity all the kids get together right and do that stuff
so we don't mind that you know and john and ryan got
introduced to ohio football so that's why they've been real busy i don't think
they understood last year when i said i can't i don't have time to have football
or baseball or basketball or golf or soccer now they know it consumes so much
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time but it's worth it yeah i mean so here's the thing to see the kids to see
the kids smile or to make gains personally, right?
When I say make gains, it's gains are not wins and losses, right?
Gains could be morally, physically, characteristics, personalities,
lots of different things, overcoming objectives that they may not have ever done.
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The heat, right? The heat's been bad this year.
But those are all things that, again, tie back to us here. It's overcoming obstacles
that you may have never thought you were going to have to overcome.
Well, here, the other thing, too, is it kind of gives you an opportunity if
you have kids and they're not really into the outdoor aspect outside of sports.
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If you're on a time crunch, like, hey, last year when John harvested his buck,
I think we had basketball.
Yeah. Basketball that night, and my kids had never got to go out and see somebody
actually field dress a buck or anything like that or recover a deer.
Year like hey we got to go to
basketball but you know uncle john needs some help so load
up get your stuff we're going and we're leaving straight from there so get some introduced to
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it introduced to you know the outdoors even if it's
not hunting or if it's fishing or something like that get some
introduced to it well and then take that so we we couldn't go out on recover
i was just i mean i was still driving home from work when you guys were loading
it in the back of his truck but what did i tell you on the way home i said hey
make sure you swing that thing by the house because those Those tailgate memories
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don't stop in the field, right?
Like we always joke like, hey, the memories are in the field.
But those tailgate memories transition to –,
you know truck stops right like where you're well every time before a podcast what do we talk about,
last year years prior everything memories yeah yes
i think those are good if so i look at
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it like this so tony you were wrestled right in high school
pretty successful i'd assume fairfield indian
but like for those how's that go again like
for those that play football you know they always say you know your last
friday night at home is probably the last time you'll ever touch touches feel you know
what i mean to me that's a memory that they're going to make well you
don't know if it's when we last time harvesting the deer right so you're there as you
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know brotherhood or if you you know family together making that memory like
hey next year's not promised you know let's make these memories now and it lasts
forever we talk about stories all the time even outside of this yeah i know
i missed twice i got it dude yeah i know believe me i was there but it's making Making memories,
you know, it means a lot. It's always fun.
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Yeah. I mean, the memory, the memories are what I think we cherish and carry on more than anything.
Because there is going to come a day where it just is not in the cards to do what we're doing.
And I think that that's where making sure that we appreciate what we do day in and day out,
where you said, we're like you said, hey, we got introduced to it,
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like what it takes away and appreciating what you said last year with the fact
of, hey, I'm busy. I got football.
We appreciate that fact and the aspect of now we're dealing essentially the
same schedule, right? and enduring that same schedule, but enduring it different
rather than living it through you.
Now we're living it through our kids and living it through what they're doing. Right.
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Or, you know, like you, you've come to a couple of our games,
we've come to a couple of your games.
So, whereas even if your kids aren't playing, like it's again,
tying back those memories where they're going to watch friends and,
and all those things, I think transition to life.
And I think that's the biggest part about, again, what we're doing here is how
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does it transition back to life?
How can we tie it back to what we do every day?
And I think those are the things that we'll always talk about is what we can tie back to each other.
Right. Average show again, though, we're not the, you know, we don't get to hunt for a living.
Right. I don't think really anybody on the staff or on the page,
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you know, here or the other place get to do that for a living. Right.
So. No, I think, I mean, like, and I don't think really any of us have traveled
the hunt other than Tony.
And then like us before we moved here, like. Yeah.
I traveled here with Ng to hunt Ohio because Ohio was actually reasonable for an out-of-state hunt.
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Fortunate enough to do that. Tony's got a couple road trips under his belt,
maybe a little farther south, the good old Midwest.
But it is what it is. Those are the things that we've got to take advantage
of and enjoy and cherish.
So I think that's one thing we're going to focus on more is that,
yes, do we want to put more work in at the places that we're hunting?
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Absolutely because you guys have heard me say it
the last probably two weeks we need to get back out there
batteries are running low on the camera whatever like feeds running
low but like josh just said jokingly before this
i said well it doesn't you know like don't it's like yeah they'll be
there anyway and i jokingly said oh well they haven't been there in
whatever how many how many days or how many months
well i mean they've been dealing with 100 degree heat and probably
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and been staying low and
and you know maybe moving different patterns but you know and
that's the the other thing we're we're at the time of year where you could
possibly see deer that you've never seen right because
now their patterns are switching up from their summer patterns to
their fall patterns or you could it could
be the opposite you could see deer you've never seen or you could lose deer
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that you've been seeing been there yeah i
mean you know we always we joke with each
other like oh hey i'm calling dibs on that one you can't have it because there's
there's a buck that i i mean specifically that i like but again we jokingly
say john's like i can tell you he ain't getting a second opportunity past me
if he comes back the first time or whatever and like but we pick up we pick
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on each other and we have fun with it because like.
At the end of the day none of us are going to get upset if the other one shoots
it or has an opportunity to shoot it because it's all those memories it might
take three shots but if you I'm taking them,
too. Yeah. I haven't even really looked.
So that's something new this year. I haven't really paid attention to trail
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cameras. Yeah, I mean, unless we were sent in the group. The Brown County's not even set up yet.
So, I don't know. I may just go old school.
Heck with it. Old school is tough. It's definitely...
Old school is tough. It's definitely, it's definitely something,
you know, that a lot of more people have talked about because,
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you know, we all, we've talked about it numerous times on this podcast about technology, right?
It can ruin it. I mean, I don't know, like last year I was holding out for a
specific deer all year long,
and I probably wouldn't have, and I probably would have, you know,
had, had shoot, I had opportunities to shoot some decent bucks a few times,
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but kept holding off because of what I saw running around down there, you know?
So it was like, technology can be good and bad, I guess. I don't know.
Yeah. I mean, it, it absolutely can be, I mean, but I do like it though.
Yeah. I don't know. It's cool. Just see what's going on when you're not there,
but man, it's a pain in your butt.
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But, but again, that's, that's that drive time, right?
Like sometimes like going down to a public place and walking around and doing
whatever, like you don't have the opportunity to maybe put something up, right?
So that's the part about being relatable to the average Joe.
We don't always have the opportunity to put a camera everywhere we want to be,
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even on a piece of private piece,
because we may not have the opportunity because of time constraints or whatever,
or because of, you know, trying to stay out of a bedding area or trying to stay
out of this or stay out of that.
You just may not have the opportunity. Also financial. Yeah,
you'll spend a fortune on cameras. I have two Tacticams that I still haven't
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put out for my property out in Montemaro, right?
Yeah. But that's, that's hard too.
I can't afford, you know, $150 cameras.
Like they're going out of style, you know? Yeah. So. Then you got to pay for subscriptions.
Subscriptions and things, which I love Tacticam. That's by all means,
I absolutely love it. They're great.
But so if I can't afford those, John put me on to Tasco.
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Tasco camera. Cheap ones from Walmart, like 20 bucks.
They do just take just as good pictures, but, you know, then it forces me to
go out there and pull a card.
And when, you know, that property is over an hour away, one way,
it's kind of like, well, is it worth it just to go see what's out there?
Or do I want that surprise?
Like, hey, you know what I mean? And I know out in Morrow, there's big deer.
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I have zero concerns about it.
I ain't touched it. I ain't been out there once this year besides,
or I think John and I went out there to take a stand down in like April.
Yeah. ain't been out there since but i know just because
of that area there's big boys out there there's some big boys
and it's you know it's crazy as you're talking about
driving out there to pull your card when i started hunting you'd
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have to go to the camera and get the camera roll out
of the camera and then go have it take it
and go get it developed oh boy did you even know that
no yeah that's what what do you got a polaroid picture
up there with the camera across the trail and it
triggers it basically is what it was i
mean so you know camera film right yeah i
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know the canister yeah you had to go you had to put that in
your trail camera yeah that was the first and then
make sure that your camera didn't die or something and your film still kind
of pulling through because you open up you open it up now light hit it's ruined
rough do you ever use those no wild because honestly if i'm being honest back
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back in illinois up until we bought our piece of property that we had land or whatever.
I mean, we were hunting state property. We were hunting property that we really
didn't hang a lot of cameras because we knew some of the people that hunted
those same properties were not always the easiest to deal with.
And they tried to take your equipment. Like we caught them trying to take ladder
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stands and that type of stuff. Right.
So that's another concern that when you're hunting that type of stuff,
maybe being mobile, right.
Being mobile is, is something that you have to think about, especially doing
that. And I think, And, you know, that's something we talked to Stan about last night, right?
Stan said he went from being 50 or 60 pounds packing in mobile to this year
he cut it down to like 30 or 40 packing in mobile by changing his setup,
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changing some of his gear and doing some of that stuff.
But when you're talking the difference in 30 pounds and you may be packing in
a mile, like 30 pounds is a lot.
60 pounds. What all are you taking? Well, but he films everything.
So you have your camera, you have your camera arm. You have your camera arm,
you have your cameras, you have all that stuff.
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I mean, your bow, your platforms, your sticks, you name it.
I mean, but that's the crazy part. I mean, like. Yeah, I take them bow and bag and that's it.
Right. Occasionally. Bow, bag, climber. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. That's a whole new dimension for me this year. It's going to be with a
clover. I love it. Well, now that I've learned a few things.
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Hey, you're learning. I mean, yeah. If you don't look stuff up and try to figure
it out, I mean, you're not going to figure anything out.
I mean, if I'm being honest, after talking about what this state property is
or isn't, because of being able to leave it up for that two weeks,
a mobile setup would be probably ideal for hunting state property because of
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the fact that if you go in, you
may be going in a little later because you want to be able to see things.
Or maybe you go in early, and then as the sun comes up, you're like,
oh, that looks like a really good spot over there, and you want to be able to get up and down easy.
So mobile whether it be saddle hunt
right because you know the saddle hunt guys they claim
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that the ability to shoot your bow out of
the tree in your range is insane you're not restricted now he said but if you're
a guy but if you're a guy that doesn't like heights talking to stan he's like
if you're a guy that doesn't like heights he said forget it because he said
it's a single piece of rope holding you to the tree that like there's there's
people that don't like that well i always
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have a rope that holds me to the tree so well yeah safety first
but you also have a platform under you that's
a little a little bigger than that two by platinum yeah
i couldn't saddle hunt i don't know i may try
at some point but i'm still a climber man yeah all day sits and stuff there's
no way a saddle's more comfortable in a climber i would have to agree i mean
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i want to try though I've looked at it and like knowing like what this.
These new opportunities and things like that, like looking at it,
I'm not a hundred percent sure yet, but I do still want to try it like side by side comparisons.
Like, I don't know. I'd have to definitely get in better shape before that though.
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Well, and here's the thing. Like
then you talk about average Joe and affordability and some of that stuff.
Some of those saddle setups get really expensive and pretty, pretty in depth.
But again, at that point though, like i don't
know how much you can trust some of the the cheap stuff because at
that same point it's like the old adage of you're you're cheap
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buy twice well by tweet by cheap
yeah by tweet tweet tweet but by cheap you
may not you may not have your life at the end of the point i mean like you're
you're 18 20 foot in the air and you fall i mean game over
maybe you know what i mean like yeah let's stop talking about that goes through
my head every year well no i'm just saying though like that's
what that's why we all up here if there's something but that's
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why we were safety harnesses so that's that's the point but still no
it's like but dangling from a tree for hours
before someone finds you with the harness i've had that happens
for some reason i actually had to call when i was 16
years old hunting the state property i used.
Myself climber up a birch tree and my
foot platform went down on me
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and i'm literally dangling on my
on my harness had to call my dad
use my use my bow rope to lower down so
he could get to my foot platform pull the foot platform back up
stick my feet back in the things to to get
it down and then and then go back to town but like i mean
you talk about that like being 16 years old and
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just dangling from a tree and then having to call your dad like luckily i
had my cell phone on and we were we were in range or
i didn't drop it climbing a tree you shouldn't have well but
again again i was research search but but i
was 16 years old that's what i'm saying and and the guy and the guys
that were teaching me to hunt at that point in time they have
never used climbers right right it
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was it was new they had always ground hunted and we.
Went to cabela's to the bargain cave right and they had
a they had a cheap climber so i tried it right so for the average joe watching
pay attention to your trees you're climbing yeah i mean always have a rope connecting
your top form to your bottom platform so i can i can tell you after that scenario
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because of where we hunted in some of the hills.
I did not ever not have a rope attaching my foot platform in case I didn't have
my phone or whatever, because dude, otherwise I would have had to wait until
my dad was done hunting till it was dark to come back and get me.
Well, you can actually get injured just from hanging there too,
though. Well, yeah. Cause your circulation. Yeah.
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Cut off. And yeah, dude. That exact situation is why I stopped using a climber.
Cause that's all I used for the longest time when I
like first started hunting by myself was just a climber and
i had the bottom fall out on me and i was like no i'm good
yeah when i first started using the climber was out of morrow first time
out there i went out like a couple days before found the tree i wanted to
put it on there i didn't look up the tree though right it was a locust tree
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so they have the thorns oh that are like four inches long yeah i got this too
easy i got about six foot off the ground i said that's it i'm good here yeah
so i had a i had to run in with a locust tree back in Illinois,
we had this, we had this big buck that like, I finally was in a position where
I had vacation time and this buck was coming on my tacticam.
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It was every morning, like clockwork, he was at the same spot.
So then I took a morning off, went and hunted. He showed up,
but he showed up 20 yards a different direction. So I'm like,
oh, I'm going to fix this.
He's been here three days in a row. I'm going to move this tree stand.
Him. Well, the only tree that was good to get it in was locust tree.
Do you know how painful that was to put that up?
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And then, and then to take your saw, because like, where are you going to lean
back against that tree and cut off all those thorns that way you can sit there
only to have him then walk by again the next day where, where you just moved the tree stand from.
And it's just crazy. Like, you know, the, the number of times that that stuff happens.
It's deer hunting. Oh, hope and that's why they call it hunting not
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killing that's right so i mean that's the cool
stuff guys i mean i think that that that's the stuff that makes
it that makes it relatable and fun you want to
you want to talk about deer being smart like you don't even know they're there
and they're making moves on you it's a chess match yeah i'm ready man it is
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dude i'm gonna tell you so not what was it like a week and a half ago we had
some mornings that were like 50 degrees
and those mornings man you're like oh buddy it's
coming and then you go back to 100 degrees and it's like
nah i'm good enough pass i'm just
ready honestly just ready to be out there and just chilling
yeah i don't even care if i see a deer at this point right now yeah i'm just
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ready to relax out there right some sometimes i mean i think hunting for the
average joe isn't always just hunting right it's it's your peace it's your tranquility
it's your it's your whatever you want
to call it your mind clearing stage. It's, it's your getaway.
It doesn't matter if you see anything, you just get out there and you're like.
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Yeah, I enjoy, that's why I enjoy hunting mornings more. Cause I like getting
in the super early where it's pitch black. You hear everything and you get to
see the woods come alive.
And you know, you have hours and hours to hunt compared to hunting in the evenings.
But yeah, I like going out there. Even, even I've had the worst luck over the
last five years that I had good luck.
Like anything that could go wrong has gone wrong. It's been that long already.
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It's been longer than that. Hunting? Yeah.
Dang, I remember when you started. Me too. did you gotta
think how long i've been at my current employer i
just time flies yeah but i enjoyed like
going out there in the morning just sitting there just waiting for the sun to come
up i i like people ask me all the time well do you
like killing deer i'm like i don't like it i enjoy it because it you know it's
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feeds my family right it's a good pastime i think it's gives you an intimate
feeling with the animal right like our ancestors no matter where you're from
but just There's something about it. Well, so take that one step further.
You talk about the woods coming alive and we capture some of those moments via
camera, trail camera, right?
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Like right now we've had some pictures where like the paintings just,
they don't get any better, right?
The canvases, the backdrops, they, we wouldn't have the opportunity to see some
of the things we see if we didn't have a camera out there.
If we, if we weren't out there in the tree, if we weren't out there in the blind
or, you know, whatever, like.
And I think that that's, that makes a difference.
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So I know, I know we did it. We did it a little crazy this week just because
we didn't have time to announce it on Facebook because we put this podcast together
live on our field staff page because we didn't have time to go on the main page.
Does the field staff have any questions or any comments that they want to throw
into the Average Show podcast before we go on to the next topic?
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I haven't seen any questions a lot of like comments just saying hey and agreeing
with some of the things that we're saying while I've been watching so okay so
we've been watching so I mean,
I know you guys were there. I mean, the last time we talked was probably when
we did the winners of that Average Joe turkey podcast.
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You know, winners. We did the Average Joe turkey contest. We are going to do
an Average Joe deer contest.
And we are going to have some different stuff there that depending on.
Average Joe and Average Joe. There we go. There it is.
Take the bucks out of it completely. Just Average Joe. Yeah. yeah
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uh so we goes for joe's so we're
gonna we're gonna do some cool stuff i'll kind of cue you
in on a couple things because by the time you hear this
you may see the post as well so let's start
by saying that's not all ironed out yet oh it's a hundred percent so number
one we don't have any of the prizes ironed out because it's all based on number
of entries for the prizes but we are are going to try to get more people involved
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by doing a unique trail cam photo from season.
So you can submit any trail cam photo that you think is unique,
and we're going to do it kind of like bracket play where we're going to have
a certain number of winners for four months,
and then those winners at the end of
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the season are going to get put into a a
bracket and we're going to let our public viewers vote on what
they feel is the best on like a head-to-head matchup
type thing to give to make it fun so
we're going to have we're going to have our pro staff pick the top five for
each month ish and then we'll iron out what the bracket's going to be but the
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public is going to pick the winner that that's what we know for a fact the public
is picking the winner how we do the contest for each week but we're going to do a unique contest.
We, of course, are going to do a youth contest just because of the fact that
the youth are a huge part of what we do, that we got to have them involved.
What were some of the other ideas? I mean, like, we're just throwing this out.
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Cause I want you guys to know that like, we take this serious.
I mean, we had probably an hour conversation last night about this and other things.
So when we do this stuff, guys, like it's, it's not like, oh,
Hey, like, we're just going to throw this together.
It's like, Hey, let's, let's get like, you know, eight to 10 guys with their minds together.
And let's try to figure out the best way to get you guys as average shows involved. So, I mean, like.
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It was like longest time was one of them. Yeah. The biggest dressed weight dough,
some different things like that that we're looking at.
Yeah. So, I mean, there's going to be some cool stuff that way.
We're going to do, we do know for a fact that we are going to keep the entry
fee low like we did for the turkey contest.
We're going to keep it at 20 bucks with 100% of the funds going towards prizes.
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So, the more entries, the bigger the prizes, the more prizes we do.
So, we will be doing that.
What else? What else did I say we were going to talk about at the beginning?
I feel like there was something else. No.
No? As I say, I can't think of much. I know season's gearing up. Yeah.
A lot of people were, I mean, heck, season's starting here soon. Well, shoot.
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So Kentucky opens this coming week?
Today's the first Kentucky I think opens September 7th opens.
It opens the day after my birthday.
So my shorts. Yeah. So, I mean, I guess that's the other part of it is, is guys.
So like we, we talk about people shooting speed goats out West.
It's a, it's already hunting season. It's here. It's on us.
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You know, we, we jokingly say
we haven't done anything yet to really prepare, but we got, we'll shoot.
What do we got like 24 days till our season opens?
Yeah. It's like the end of month. yeah 25 like so is it the 25th or the 30th,
has a question who's planning on
hunting the uh first week patterns i for one would
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say i really don't hunt a pattern on the first like week or so i try not to
go a lot but if i do i go in the evenings and i personally just try to go to
where obviously the wind's right but also just where i've seen the most doe
that's for me that's what i do because i just like to knock the rust off get
one down, get the nerves out as much as I can.
And everything's still dialed in. You can shoot out of target so many times,
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but it's different when there's, you know, a deer standing in front of you. Yeah, for sure.
I probably won't be out till like November.
Well, shoot, we talk about football. I mean, I think, so we have a game every
Sunday in September and then we got the first two weeks of October,
there's games and then I don't, I don't remember what it goes to after that, but I know.
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You ain't got to worry about that. Anything after that, you're all right.
All right, here we go. I probably won't be out until November until he calls
me the week of opening day. Oh, we got to go. Come on.
It's too hot. I got to cut that grass, though. Yeah.
Probably make it happen, though. I was going to say, I mean,
there's just something about going out opening day. Opening day, absolutely.
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Well, shoot, we did it. And just base layers. Yeah, pretty much.
Because it'd be 90 again.
That's what I hope for this year is like...
I want all the rut phases to be cool.
That's all I'm asking. Not too much. Right. Never happens anymore. It's always hot. Yeah.
I'm over it. I heard Kyle Hoon said you never shoot for turkey season.
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Don't get me. I'll message you in a minute.
He's like, John, hold that thought. I'll get at you. Green shot something for him.
I have a question for you guys. Fire away. I know the answer,
but I think, you know, for the average joke,
people that knew or getting into it do
you change your camo pattern based off
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of the season time of the year so do you wear
a different camo pattern for early season compared to mid to late not the thickness
you know not your cold weather year but like for me i personally i have two
that i wear well three now that i wear predominantly or i have under armor that
i wear i think i forget what's It's called Under Armour that I wear,
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you know, beginning of the season, super light.
I like it. It's, you know, I can, I don't sweat through it. So I'm not putting out extra odor.
Then I, this year I'm switching to the X-Terrain Mossy or Bottomlands.
Yeah. And then late season, it's the Realtree Edge Escape. Escape.
Yeah. So. Well, I was going to say, so I'm going to tell you that like normally,
obviously I don't switch. I think that's the escape that I have there.
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But I, I am a big believer that after some of those cool mornings of turkey
season that we're out there.
I'm going to try what?
Well, he told him I had to screenshot him back. Yeah. So.
So before ryan got all distracted he's gonna
try his turkey camo i'm guessing yeah so i'm
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gonna try it because it was light and honestly it's the same what
pattern is that so that's that's the pure yeah
that's the x-train green which i think will work really well yeah in early season
but i'm still probably gonna obviously it's it's not thick enough to wear all
season right but there's enough layers there that i think like you i'm not gonna
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have to worry about sweating my butt off, but I'll have pockets.
I'll have all that stuff that I need. I mean, like I seen, I seen guys wearing it at bear camp.
I seen guys wearing it in Canada. Like I think it's versatile enough that you
can wear it for Turkey season.
Cause they made it. So it was kind of light, but yet some obviously cool, crisp morning suit.
It's super light. Yeah. Which I really liked and how you said pockets,
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because a lot of time, early season, you don't have pockets i wear base layer
yeah that's it well i'm a fat guy so i sweat enough as it is.
So i like the breathable you know
like even even something as stupid as the zipper
on that pant that allows air
to come into the pant like something that simple makes
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it more comfortable for me even when it's a little warmer especially because
there's gonna be times that i'm gonna be in the blind with the kids which is
gonna be hotter than hades because it's a blind line there's it's stale there's
no air movement but it's fun did he get a response back yet.
Uh so that's funny all right what
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else we got i think i'm gonna change mine
up too this year yeah i think i'm gonna use the bottom land starting off and
then yeah switch it over i'm a big fan i like the bottoms land of what pure
white tail came out with their camo like the way it fits and stuff like that
i like the bottom bottoms land more that's my personal preference yeah but i
love the pants um i love how they have that inner liner from that knee down,
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absolutely love it i think it's comfortable big fan
it's well it makes it easy to help protect yourself from ticks and crap getting
up your legs which we would still so that's the beauty i think that makes it
interchangeable is the fact that the same ticks that you're dealing with in
early spring you're dealing with in early fall right like it's it's still it's still that same problem,
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them you lost the tooth we lost the tooth oh shoot
oh was it jack jack that's contact
football for you this has literally been the tooth fairy's gonna do refinance
yeah dude mortgage so i can tell you so here if uh we keep doing this hey so
yeah so hilarious but not hilarious i literally texted john as we were warming
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up the one time i said dude i got your kid's tooth in my pocket.
Brother, I'm telling you, Jackson, so we, he lost a tooth. His first year of
playing was second grade.
He lost a tooth at one of our home games, lost three teeth when we were in Tennessee.
So, like, it's like all of a sudden all these, and we never found a single one.
Yeah. They'd call timeout, everybody, all the kids on the field,
that's so cool, I'm going to play the game.
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Never find his tooth. He's got teeth all over the place.
It's insane. That's cool. What's a tooth fairy pay these days?
Well the uh interest rates are extremely
high and you know cost of living is
extremely high why oh you're
i mean if we want to do a political podcast i can i
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can talk for 45 minutes on politics here i was gonna say i can talk about i
can talk about uh binomics all day if i if if given the opportunity so so being
an average joe we'll keep politics out of it for now i agree we We may do a
podcast one day just on politics before the election. Lord.
I think here's the thing. I think there's a time and place.
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America. Yeah. I think there's a time. I think there's a time and place for it.
But I also think that preaching to the average Joe is more important than, than that.
Now there's no, there's nothing more important than our, than what we live in. Right.
But I think too many people get butt hurt no matter what side you're on. So you're better off.
I'm on the right side. Well, okay. Okay. Again, done. I'm not even going to
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try to go there. We're done.
So with that, so let's- I mean, I fly an American flag, so you can tell who I vote for.
Yeah. I mean, so do I. So it's not a big deal.
On that, I think we do our weekly wrap up like we normally do.
We're sitting with a pretty good venture.
People will be able to basically listen to it on the way into work and way home.
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And that's our goal. So doing these podcast guys, Guys, we don't want them to
be too long that you got to listen to them three different times to try to finish an episode.
Our goal is to be able to try to let somebody, you know, listen to part of it
on the way to work, part of it on the way home and finish it up.
So with that being said, Josh, let us give you your weekly.
John Calhoun has one last question. What's that?
He says, late season, do you like hunting when the deer head to bed or come out of bed?
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I prefer coming out of bed. Yeah.
I've never really thought about it Honestly too much I go based More patterns
If I'm seeing them in certain areas And I know For the most part Like out in
Morrow Which way the wind blows In the morning versus the evening That's how
I gauge it Based off of patterns Yeah.
So I think that ties back to his comment earlier where you're asking if you're,
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if you're following a pattern within that first week, I think where you said
you're not following a pattern in the first week by the end of the year when
there's snow on the ground. Oh, absolutely.
Yeah. At that point in time, I think you, you are patterning. Yes.
Try to hunt the corn. Yeah. Try to hunt food. Food. Yeah.
I've been, I mean, since Lancaster came on, on the podcast a while back and
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was talking about wind and all that.
Like I noticed last year, Tony
and I, we hunted a lot together and we took the wind in consideration.
So I think to answer John's question, it would be whichever pattern,
the stand that we have, or we can put a stand in place that gives us the best
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opportunity based on the wind.
I think, is that fair? Yeah, no, that's fair. I mean, cause I think truly like
we talked about it last year.
I think that we tried to give ourself more opportunity to be more scent free.
And I think maybe that's another podcast that we'll jump back in on and maybe
touch a little bit more on, because like you said, you tried to take your,
your scent elimination to a whole nother level. He was doing it.
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So I think after, you know, after having that podcast we did with Lancaster,
he talked about his feelings on it.
I think it'd be, it'd be cool to kind of recap that and redo that just so that
way, you know, the people that maybe weren't listening then and want to listen
now, that'd be a good opportunity for them.
Yeah. Yeah, I think next one when we do that, I think, especially hunting out
where we are, where we drew, that really played a big part in because we hunted
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the ground the whole time. Yeah.
So to have a big mature buck walk up maybe 20 yards from us. Yeah.
I'm not saying it was down when I don't remember. I was too nervous which one.
I love hunting the ground. Still to this day, I've killed more deer sitting
on the ground than in a stand.
So I will tell you. So here, let's do this. Let's end with our coolest experience, hunting.
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Dude i mean there's a lot so i had one a couple years
ago this one okay well then we'll wait and save that never mind
i mean i'm just saying we can talk about his we can just break
it do say one right now yeah we'll do one so a
couple there's been a lot but one like
crazy experience i guess was a couple years ago
it was during one phase of the rut everybody says rut
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but ruts a long there's multiple phases i
don't know what phase it was pitch black walking down
to my tree stand and i hear something you know you can hear
deer walking i'm like man i better
stop because it kept getting closer and closer then you
start hearing smelling around and
everything i'm like how was that okay i
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was like dude i guarantee you because
like i said it was during one of the phases above or the rut
i'm like this is a buck so where i
walked my stand in brown county there's like a couple tiers and
then it goes down a hill so i'm waiting waiting he comes
up the hill and no lie walks by me
i'm staying right here like you're the deer like i could have pet it like i
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thought that was pretty cool yeah it was like a little six or whatever but it
was a little it was cool i was excited like this is pretty sweet but also i
don't want to say scared but prepared yeah because i mean a deer will whoop
up on you i don't care yeah it was like.
Dude oh my gosh like what do i do so i just kind of stay in
there and he just goes right by me it's like what the heck i don't know pretty cool
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yeah josh what about you that's a
tough word no i would say for me it was it has nothing to
do with me harvesting a deer it was when one of our properties that
john's hunted forever opc's got a lot of
you know memories and emotional attachments to it freezing we
were hunting and i think we talked about it before actually he
said dude let's go we're getting down by the time i
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got to the base of the tree stand john called face
ties me he said oh my gosh
there's a deer down like yeah whatever dude okay i
don't believe that he's like i'm serious like yeah right he said
no i'm serious it's over there and he's shaking i'm like i'll be there in like
two minutes and i get over there and it looks like a murder scene from the grim
reapers like oh you're serious he's still up there shaking in the stand like
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like it was cool because that was literally i think the last hunt on that property if i'm not mistaken.
No, his kids got to come out. My kids came out.
You know, and then that property was sold maybe not even six months later or something like that.
So for me as a friend, like that was probably one of my favorite memories I have.
He had nothing to do with me harvesting an animal, but knowing his emotional
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attachment, how long he's been hunting out there.
And that's where I learned, you know, the basics to hunting out there.
It meant a lot to me and made sure I got, I still have like 700 pictures on
my phone from all, you know, everything we did out there. But I thought it was good.
You know, he got that, you know. as a matter of
fact that was one year later
to the date from the buck you harvested the year
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prior wasn't it yeah i was gonna say so john now
that he's taking those memories what memory you got left yeah john
what memories do you have left it would
be honestly your first your first deer kill out
there being 20 yards away not even
these deer what we're texting
each other back and forth worth yeah so now
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when josh first got into to hunting he
he went out and he i think you bought a crossbow right before because your bow
you had some issues with it the first bow you had pay for what you get yeah
and yeah i seen a couple deer come and let josh know the next thing i know i
just hear this just what can i'm like.
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Did you shoot? But I didn't hear anything run. So I was kind of like,
like two deer came in and I seen like one run off and I'm like,
pretty sure he just shot that deer.
And I literally, Stan was probably five foot taller than the one Josh was in.
And I beat him down because I was just like that pump just to see like,
all right, did he do this?
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And like to see like the excitement on his face and everything like that afterwards.
Like it was totally, totally worth it. It's probably one of my best memories by far. Sure.
So my memory was not a harvest was not anything, but it was hunting state property.
Down along a river. We call it the apple river.
So the whole side of the other hill was a bluff and then the river flowed against it, like where it cut.
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And like, we used to be down in these bluffs sitting on the ground in some sawgrass.
I made my own like little blind that I sat in the middle of the sawgrass that
I just stopped down some grass, like a deer bedding in the middle of of it and
kept some up around me and put it in some trails.
And dude, I tell you what, back then I called it moose antlers.
I now know it's called palmated, but I called it moose antlers and,
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and dude, this, this bucket, I mean, it wasn't huge, but it was this eight point
that had all these palmated antlers and, and kind of just a little bit different color walking.
Walking was within five yards of me.
Like I needed it to take one more step to be able to draw my bow back.
It didn't take the step but it turned around and walked
away and just like sitting there in
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awe like did that really just happen and then
never seen that deer again but to the
fact of being able to have that memory
of acing what i call the moose antler deer but a palmated deer
non-typical deer sitting on the ground at five
yards it was just cool it was
it was just one of those things that you'll never forget and especially
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like you take it you take it like all of
us have those memories right but like against the
river against the bluff like it's like storyline
stuff right like if should have been videotaping it like because
nobody will believe it like that type of storyline yeah but
yeah so well that's the way
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it is when you're out there in the woods and everything like you never know and
it's always something like even if it's not
deer just watching the other animals out there and how they
go about their day or whatever it's it's
wild that's what i was gonna say is like for me like those types of like thoughts
or like any time that i'm watching like a deer like it may sound like crazy
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but i feel like i can almost think about like every deer i've ever saw because
it's just like one of those like just weird moments where it's like.
Like, I mean, just like when we were hunting last year, you had that buck that
was 130 yards to the right of us down in that bowl, just watching, watching him work.
I mean, it wasn't anything special or anything like that, but I mean,
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just seeing him way that he was.
And then like that one that we had come running out while he was running the
combine there to our left, like just little things like that.
It's like anytime i'm sitting there and i see a deer come by and it's like wow like i just
outsmarted this deer in some way shape or form right like they
have no clue that i'm here and i'm just watching them and it's like
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you just feel like like you're not even like it's something you shouldn't even
be a part of i'm batman yeah bobcats killing raccoons oh my gosh that was last
year wasn't it geez so the first time i saw a bobcat i was out in morrow i'm
like what is that That's a fat cat running through the field.
I thought it was just an overweight cat.
It's got a raccoon hanging out of its mouth. Yeah. Well, then last year,
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it was just us out there, wasn't it? No.
It might have just been us out there, I think. Maybe. I think it was just you
guys. You were in the stand.
Wow. I'm like, geez, old Pete. Was that a banshee? It went on for a while.
Yeah. That was scary. It was like that. Yeah.
And out there, don't we have a picture of a pretty good-sized bobcat?
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Yeah. Well, we got the picture on the other side of the field,
and then it was like 17 minutes later we heard that. I'm like, that's crazy. Oh, boy.
I'm in a bond. I'm like, dear baby Jesus.
I won't mess with you. Yeah, man. There's a lot of good memories, too.
I think that should be a good podcast. We should do that.
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It's just a memories podcast. I think what would be cool, too,
is if we can keep them on track, having the boys down here.
That's been up Fort and Hop as well but
I know Jake and Leland and Jackson have a good one first time they ever went
hunting it was a complete and utter failure we had Frisch's breakfast though
afterwards which makes it a win for sure absolutely back when Frisch's was good
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yeah not no more not sponsored by them at all,
just so everyone's aware but we are looking no I'm just kidding Bob Evans.
Yeah alright Josh what do you want to leave the average joes with nope once
again uh hey i appreciate you guys come allowing me to be on here with you guys
appreciate the friendships the brotherhood,
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You guys, you know, not to get emotional by any means, but you guys mean a lot to me.
You know, I don't have a big circle anymore, you know, since leaving the Army.
I think I personally have found it hard to find that camaraderie amongst friends.
Yeah. But definitely appreciate you guys.
And the relationship we have is probably the closest I've ever had since serving.
So, you know, I appreciate you guys, generally. Even Tony.
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And the kids, too. Whatever. Every time you see me, you get happy. I do.
I actually do. dude i'm like hey tony you're my
boy blue i always actually what's crazy is i always end up
talking about tony when i have like friends that went to fairfield like
i had he was a god it was literally the other day someone graduate austin krauss
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he graduated from fairfield i think in nine or something like that i was 05
dude i was gonna say that was long before i don't know but uh he He recognized your last name.
Well, a lot of Fairfield people do. Kind of a big deal. Tony,
do whatever you spell it.
Yeah. Yeah, I like how you saved my name in there. That's hilarious.
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You don't want to see Ryan's.
Tony, what do you want to leave the average Joe with? Well, season's approaching.
Get out there. If you don't have cameras like me in one of my spots,
try to get them up if you want to put them up.
Otherwise just get your gear ready get
you all your stands ready if you're
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doing that wash your clothes and everything we're keeping it simple for
average joe wash up get your
bow ready make sure you're on go have fun perfect john
you backed that up i mean talk about blanket statement i mean no i mean i was
gonna leave them with the same thing just make sure that you're you're putting
in your work right if you don't if you don't want to do cameras don't do cameras
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but But I would definitely recommend getting your bow out, make sure that you're on,
make sure that you're comfortable with your equipment. You owe it to that animal.
Yeah. Just keep it. That's like I say all the time before we go hunt, make it simple.
Got my boots, got my bow, got my arrows.
I'm good. So keep it simple. Everybody that's starting out and everything.
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Yeah. Don't forget your release.
Yeah. Yeah. Or your boots.
Or your boots or your boots or your boots i forgot too
dude i didn't do that last year i had a good system just for everyone the previous
year not last year the year before i had a bad run of i would get to the truck
get ready and then oh man i forgot about it leave me at the hunting property
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i'll be back or just wear or just wear shoes in right oh hey dudes.
That's hilarious all right so guys i'm gonna end you with this we we appreciate
you letting us be the home of the average Joe.
We have, we have another big contest coming with the average show deer contest,
and we'll get more details to that to follow.
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But again, we definitely had this long time coming.
Uh, we're going to, I'm not going to put an exact number on it. Like I did the last time.
Cause it made a liar out of me, but we will definitely make sure that they are
more consistent, more available and more in tune with what you're looking for.
Because without you, we couldn't do do what we do and you
know not to get down to
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the nitty-gritty but moral of the story is i we kind
of had some conversations in the last week that the only
thing that hrx is going to be founded on is what what do we say the average
joe the average joe period there we will not go away from that so from us to
you we appreciate you we're going to end this one for tonight and we'll see you next time Thank you.
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Music.
Music.
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And we're back. The home of the average Joes has been gone far too long.
Obviously. Obviously. It only took three takes or four takes.
But we are back, and we are going to get this train rolling again.
As Josh said, what do we got? Like 16 weeks left, and you said we got to fire
out, what, 36 of them is what you said? Just about, yeah. Yeah,
just about, something like that.
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All right. No, but seriously, in a serious note, it's been far too long.
We're glad to be back, glad to get rolling. and we got
some rejuvenation and it is it is time
to go what do y'all got to say say hi
to everybody we'll let everybody do a little round table to start no
anybody and the
silence i don't even know what to think
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busy man busy yeah watching watching
you guys on trail cameras getting stuff set up for me yeah
mowing grass yeah there we go all right well i guess since nobody else wants
us the round table we'll jump right in so this week we thought it'd be a good
idea here in ohio and i don't know what other states do it they do a draw for
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public land but specifically for,
their lottery hunts their lottery hunts for deer places to hunt deer animals in what type of areas.
Secluded secluded areas that deer like to
be preserves preserves there you go so we
had the opportunity before before a game
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this is why we blindfold you every deer hunting spot i'll
stop and this so we had the opportunity to go to one of these preserved drawings
and apply for them what was there probably 40 people two more no i don't know
40 50 yeah 50 so it was a pretty cool thing they're only they're only going
to draw 10 names and it may change per per location, per whatever,
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but we put four people in for the 10.
That room was pretty quiet leading up to number five, right?
And then what happened the next five calls out?
Well, you got drawn first, right? Yeah, I got drawn first, and what was John's first words?
Of course. Yeah, of course. Go figure, Ryan. Of all people. Yeah,
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Ryan, of all people. And then there was a guy or group drawn after then.
Yeah. And then no I was drawn after All right after yeah there was One between me and Tony.
And then you guys got drawn the next two. The last two. The last two.
So then the commotion in the room changed because we started hooting and hollering
because everybody brought a bunch of people.
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We were the only group that drew every person that we took, which was.
That's what happens when you're around Ryan. That's that Ryan Garrett look right
there. I thought we were going to have a Southern Ohio throwdown in the parking lot.
I really thought. if they didn't have the mean afterwards it would have
probably yeah it was it was
pretty fun i wanted to kick her ass it's like
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yeah i was mad at it yeah like i was mad at us like damn i mean if you think
about that like the the odds first of all were one in 40 or 50 whatever we said
it was and then and then to have the last five of 10 spots four of the five
be us four well i mean And it just proves your checks don't bounce.
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Hey, I need a loan while we're talking about that. Checks don't bounce. Yeah.
Anyways. Yeah. Moving on. I don't think that has anything to do with it.
No, it was a small donation you made to him before the drawing.
Yeah, I didn't make any small donations.
There was no bribery. A gentleman's handshake. No trickery, no nothing.
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But it was a lot of fun. It was pretty cool to go.
And then and then to make a game plan and I think really that's the reality the reality is is,
we wanted to talk about that because leading up to that point of going to that
drawing I mean we've gone out to the place that we're gonna hunt a couple times
I would say five maybe six times.
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Not including when we went out there a couple times for turkey
season but we really haven't gone out there
as much this year just because of being that
true average Joe right like yeah I don't like the pressure dear
i don't think he doesn't like
to work he doesn't like the the pressure of having no grass
cutting money yeah but it it's
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the average joe way i mean like we all we all got busy we all got work and and
that was the reality is is that's honestly like we said it's time to start firing
these off you know we want to make sure that when we say we're the home for
the average joe we want to give you guys the truth and the blunt of it you know
we had every intention of doing that when we talked about it in May.
And then really, life just happened. Football happened.
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Yard cutting happened. I mean, you name it, something happened.
But the reality is, is we're going to get back to it because you guys count
on us, maybe not necessarily to give you,
our insight, but to share the things that we go through to maybe help curve
your learning curve a little bit, as opposed to having to go through some of our same struggles.
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But the point behind that is, is bent out to the property that is a private
property that we can hunt.
All year long maybe five or six times but
not being so sure what that is we decided to get
in on this drawing because you guys had such good luck last year right like
you and john went i wouldn't say we had good luck we had a lot of opportunities
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opportunities for sure okay good luck in in the aspect of to go to go out there
and see deer and seem consistent a lot of action I would say though,
what caused that was the experience that John brought from his history of hunting with my lack of history,
where we went out, we were able to go out there and scout and set ourselves
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up for success to where we know this is where the deer are coming.
So that caused us to have, even though we didn't get to unalive anything,
still got to see a bunch of deer. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, you know, sometimes the, the unaliving is the best part, right.
But sometimes is, is the memories and, and what you're doing to create that.
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Because, you know, like, like you guys talked about last year,
like the, the laughter that you had, or the, the on edgeness of that chocolate
rack walking towards you when you hadn't shot your doe yet, you know,
cause I, let's talk about that a little bit.
But when you do these draw hunts, at least out here, anywhere through the state. This one.
Not all of them. Not all of them. Oh, okay. Just this one in particular. You have to take a doe.
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Earn a buck. Yeah, and you're earning a buck. I mean, so it really tests your.
Honesty? Honesty. Integrity. Your ethicalness, your ethicalness,
whatever you want to call it.
Because the reality is, is Josh, how hard was it for that chocolate rack to
walk right on by at 20 yards?
No it was definitely hard right it was really
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hard not to but then again you know going back
to the way i joke and said man i should have
did i should have did it but honestly we're just joking before this there's
no chance i would have i wouldn't want to risk that and plus my morals and my
ethics you know the way i was raised and the things i've done there's no shot
you know what i mean yeah but damn it was hard but yeah but if you think about
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if it was anybody else out out there with that,
you know, I'm not one, obviously not once in a lifetime opportunity,
but now two times in a lifetime opportunity, would they have done the same thing?
Don't know. Right. Well, I think that has to do with a lot of what we talk about today.
You know, we all deal with people in our jobs, right? Like as far as the society,
some people don't have to deal with the general public, right?
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Like in, in talking about dealing with the general public, you get to see all
facets of the general public and of the average Joe's.
And there are some people that, that ethical test.
May have been more than what i mean what did
the game warden say like take it take it there i mean that'd have been one heck
of a oops i mean we just i don't know i wouldn't even say we picked the time
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frame we picked was like peak rut so we seen a lot more bucks than we did doe,
and then like the does were already on alert because they're being run all over
there like you You, when you seen does, they were not really like singled out, right?
Like, like you, they were all on alert.
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There's, I mean, leaves up to our knees. Like it was definitely a different,
different experience this year. I think we're going to add it a little bit differently.
I think we're going to have a lot of success with it, but. We're definitely going different.
We're going at it different. I mean, December, right?
Like December. Well, December is our first one. we're going
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first in december december let's talk about what we
drew i mean that's last two weeks of the season yeah so
who knows what we will be dealing with you got to be careful i
mean you maybe well i guess yeah uh
i was thinking like they'll be getting ready to drop but
they don't drop here it's whatever hopefully i
already have a buck down and just that's dope in one time then
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yeah yeah because that's a thing like out there
where we all drew out of those don't
count towards our state limits so we're allowed six
deer six yeah so in the year
with a killing spree but wasn't didn't he say though that
those don't count towards the limit as long as it's before that
december 22nd no no no that was the tag the tag okay so yeah so i mean so i
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guess that's the other part when you do these drawings like we all sit here
and we talk about this stuff but like there's so many different rules and regulations
that go into these hunts like where you pay attention yeah Yeah,
where you can hunt, like even when we got the maps,
like you're looking at one map and one map says you can hunt here and another
map says you can hunt there.
If you're doing these drawings and you're doing them on public land,
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you better know where you're at because the biggest thing that they said in
these meetings is last year's controversy came on property lines. Yeah.
And so that's the one thing that obviously, if you're going to do these things,
you don't want to not have a chance the next year because of the fact that you
crossed that boundary or you crossed that ethical standard.
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And now you're dealing with something next year because of the fact that you
were on somebody else's property. pretty, but I don't know.
I think it, you know, you tried to twist our arms to all go last year.
We all like made excuses and whatever.
And I mean, up to the point of, it was 10 30 the night before and,
and talking about going and we're like, all right, what time is everybody going?
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And, and then we finally went, but like going, having all four of us draw and then,
and then like just kind of thinking about the opportunity that the four of us
get to really shut down essentially four weeks out there because we get two weeks for each group.
I mean, that's huge because they only, they only give, what is it?
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So it's two groups per week.
Five weeks. Yeah. Well, 10 weeks total, five, you get it in two week increments. Yeah.
So 10 weeks total. And out of the 10 weeks, we're going to shut down four. Yeah.
Yeah. So, I mean, like we're shutting down 40% of the, I mean, it's pretty crazy.
So we can kill 24 deer. Yeah.
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We need to set a goal. We need to kill at least half of that. Oh, we can.
Oh no, it is 24, but it's just us four. All of us. Yeah. Well,
that's the other thing we got to find out. Is it six total?
Yes. Or is it six per visit? We asked before we left. Yeah. It's six, six total deer.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because you can technically like you can shoot a doe in there,
our first go, and then our last go, we can use that doe towards it. So, yeah.
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So I think that, you know, that's kind of cool.
But then the other thing that's kind of cool is, is like talk about being average
Joes and the people that don't have places to hunt, right?
Like, I think this is an opportunity to really just talk about maybe checking
out your home turf, right? Right. No matter where you live in the United States,
some areas may be more plentiful for state property than others.
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But I mean, it's definitely worth the look because again, this cost,
what, $5 to get in for the drawing as a donation to that.
And the reality is, is that $5 donation turned out to be something pretty good
for us, at least for opportunity.
And I think that As an average Joe, can you ask for anything other than opportunity?
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Right. And I'd say right now is the time of the year, every year I see it.
And John and I talk about it every, you know, when it happens is everybody usually,
you know, I've hunted this property for 30 years. Now I lost it.
It's been sold or something like that.
And it's a really good opportunity. I won't say it's an excuse,
but to be able to say like, oh, I don't have land to hunt. I lost a property.
Well, it's out there if you look, right? Say, look at the DNR's website if you're
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in Ohio or wherever it is. Because if you look, there's opportunities there,
but you've got to be willing to invest.
An hour of our time we went out there what eight o'clock in the morning or something
like that to this place but and we all left by nine yeah it's luckily it was
very far yeah don't for us don't use the when if it happens i'm sure it's going
to happen to me eventually at one of my spots is hey i don't have permission
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to hunt here i guess i'm not hunting this year it's like no.
That's you know that's an obstacle you're facing but there's options out there
if you look and even further more than lotteries and stuff i mean there's public
land I was going to say, so take, yeah,
take that one step where you're talking about average Joe's wanting to maybe
check things off their bucket list or check, check an opportunity to hunt a
species that they may never be able to hunt.
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This is, this is a great way, maybe in a great way to segment into that,
that like being the average Joe, just because you may not be able to afford
an outfitter, you may not be able to afford something along those lines. You can always DIY it.
There's state, there's state property everywhere. So if you get a chance to
DYI it and it gives you a chance to maybe check something off your bucket list,
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you may have to do a little more homework, right?
Especially if you're traveling 20 hours like hypothetically out west.
But the opportunity as an average, Joe, because of what's out there for state
property is, I don't want to say plentiful, but it's there.
It's there. But you also, you know, sometimes, you know, like for me,
I'll speak on myself in particular.
I struggle asking for help. I don't like it. I'm too prideful even when I know
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I need it. But when I got into hunting, you know, I was fortunate enough to
where all I had to do was ask a family member and they had plenty of land for me to hunt.
And, you know, sometimes just asking like, Hey, I know you have some land.
I know you don't hunt out there. Would you mind if I come out there?
Even if it's five acres, you know what I mean? Just ask. All you got to do is ask.
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Right. But you also don't want to ask, ask, ask, ask, ask if they tell you no,
no, no. Cause you don't want to burn a bridge. Right. No.
Just, you know, like what I did for this place, you know, it's family,
family. But I said, hey, look, just getting into this, I'd love to be able to
hunt out here. Absolutely.
Without, you know, the guy didn't hesitate, but I also said,
you know, if you need help when I'm out here or when I'm not out here with your
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business, what he does or anything, I will give you my labor for free just for
the ability for you, you know, for you saying, yeah, you can hunt out here. Yeah.
You know, trade some of that. If you're a craftsman, you know, like Langster, right?
He, uh, masonry, I think, right? Yeah. You know, that's, that's hard work.
But if you can use something, tools of your trade that you do,
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say, hey, look, you're building a deck, I got you.
Yeah. Lay it out. I'll build it. I'll help you out. I appreciate it.
Don't be afraid to barter at that point.
Exactly. Sometimes, again, that opportunity, because of monetary reasons,
you may not have it, but if you can barter it, you may have it.
So you may say, hey, I can't go out and lease.
I can't go out and do this stuff. But you can maybe –.
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Address it in different avenues that you wouldn't have thought just by being open-minded.
And I think that that's really what it comes down to for us when we're talking
about being an average Joe.
An average Joe just means you can't be closed-minded. You have to be willing
to open whatever door it takes to give you that opportunity,
right, wrong, or indifferent.
I mean, it sounds like the house is going to crash on us above us. I mean.
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Yeah they uh they have they're having a good time but but
again here that's another reason right talk about an average joe this
is an opportunity all the kids get together right and do that stuff
so we don't mind that you know and john and ryan got
introduced to ohio football so that's why they've been real busy i don't think
they understood last year when i said i can't i don't have time to have football
or baseball or basketball or golf or soccer now they know it consumes so much
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time but it's worth it yeah i mean so here's the thing to see the kids to see
the kids smile or to make gains personally, right?
When I say make gains, it's gains are not wins and losses, right?
Gains could be morally, physically, characteristics, personalities,
lots of different things, overcoming objectives that they may not have ever done.
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The heat, right? The heat's been bad this year.
But those are all things that, again, tie back to us here. It's overcoming obstacles
that you may have never thought you were going to have to overcome.
Well, here, the other thing, too, is it kind of gives you an opportunity if
you have kids and they're not really into the outdoor aspect outside of sports.
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If you're on a time crunch, like, hey, last year when John harvested his buck,
I think we had basketball.
Yeah. Basketball that night, and my kids had never got to go out and see somebody
actually field dress a buck or anything like that or recover a deer.
Year like hey we got to go to
basketball but you know uncle john needs some help so load
up get your stuff we're going and we're leaving straight from there so get some introduced to
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it introduced to you know the outdoors even if it's
not hunting or if it's fishing or something like that get some
introduced to it well and then take that so we we couldn't go out on recover
i was just i mean i was still driving home from work when you guys were loading
it in the back of his truck but what did i tell you on the way home i said hey
make sure you swing that thing by the house because those Those tailgate memories
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don't stop in the field, right?
Like we always joke like, hey, the memories are in the field.
But those tailgate memories transition to –,
you know truck stops right like where you're well every time before a podcast what do we talk about,
last year years prior everything memories yeah yes
i think those are good if so i look at
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it like this so tony you were wrestled right in high school
pretty successful i'd assume fairfield indian
but like for those how's that go again like
for those that play football you know they always say you know your last
friday night at home is probably the last time you'll ever touch touches feel you know
what i mean to me that's a memory that they're going to make well you
don't know if it's when we last time harvesting the deer right so you're there as you
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know brotherhood or if you you know family together making that memory like
hey next year's not promised you know let's make these memories now and it lasts
forever we talk about stories all the time even outside of this yeah i know
i missed twice i got it dude yeah i know believe me i was there but it's making Making memories,
you know, it means a lot. It's always fun.
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Yeah. I mean, the memory, the memories are what I think we cherish and carry on more than anything.
Because there is going to come a day where it just is not in the cards to do what we're doing.
And I think that that's where making sure that we appreciate what we do day in and day out,
where you said, we're like you said, hey, we got introduced to it,
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like what it takes away and appreciating what you said last year with the fact
of, hey, I'm busy. I got football.
We appreciate that fact and the aspect of now we're dealing essentially the
same schedule, right? and enduring that same schedule, but enduring it different
rather than living it through you.
Now we're living it through our kids and living it through what they're doing. Right.
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Or, you know, like you, you've come to a couple of our games,
we've come to a couple of your games.
So, whereas even if your kids aren't playing, like it's again,
tying back those memories where they're going to watch friends and,
and all those things, I think transition to life.
And I think that's the biggest part about, again, what we're doing here is how
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does it transition back to life?
How can we tie it back to what we do every day?
And I think those are the things that we'll always talk about is what we can tie back to each other.
Right. Average show again, though, we're not the, you know, we don't get to hunt for a living.
Right. I don't think really anybody on the staff or on the page,
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you know, here or the other place get to do that for a living. Right.
So. No, I think, I mean, like, and I don't think really any of us have traveled
the hunt other than Tony.
And then like us before we moved here, like. Yeah.
I traveled here with Ng to hunt Ohio because Ohio was actually reasonable for an out-of-state hunt.
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Fortunate enough to do that. Tony's got a couple road trips under his belt,
maybe a little farther south, the good old Midwest.
But it is what it is. Those are the things that we've got to take advantage
of and enjoy and cherish.
So I think that's one thing we're going to focus on more is that,
yes, do we want to put more work in at the places that we're hunting?
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Absolutely because you guys have heard me say it
the last probably two weeks we need to get back out there
batteries are running low on the camera whatever like feeds running
low but like josh just said jokingly before this
i said well it doesn't you know like don't it's like yeah they'll be
there anyway and i jokingly said oh well they haven't been there in
whatever how many how many days or how many months
well i mean they've been dealing with 100 degree heat and probably
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and been staying low and
and you know maybe moving different patterns but you know and
that's the the other thing we're we're at the time of year where you could
possibly see deer that you've never seen right because
now their patterns are switching up from their summer patterns to
their fall patterns or you could it could
be the opposite you could see deer you've never seen or you could lose deer
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that you've been seeing been there yeah i
mean you know we always we joke with each
other like oh hey i'm calling dibs on that one you can't have it because there's
there's a buck that i i mean specifically that i like but again we jokingly
say john's like i can tell you he ain't getting a second opportunity past me
if he comes back the first time or whatever and like but we pick up we pick
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on each other and we have fun with it because like.
At the end of the day none of us are going to get upset if the other one shoots
it or has an opportunity to shoot it because it's all those memories it might
take three shots but if you I'm taking them,
too. Yeah. I haven't even really looked.
So that's something new this year. I haven't really paid attention to trail
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cameras. Yeah, I mean, unless we were sent in the group. The Brown County's not even set up yet.
So, I don't know. I may just go old school.
Heck with it. Old school is tough. It's definitely...
Old school is tough. It's definitely, it's definitely something,
you know, that a lot of more people have talked about because,
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you know, we all, we've talked about it numerous times on this podcast about technology, right?
It can ruin it. I mean, I don't know, like last year I was holding out for a
specific deer all year long,
and I probably wouldn't have, and I probably would have, you know,
had, had shoot, I had opportunities to shoot some decent bucks a few times,
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but kept holding off because of what I saw running around down there, you know?
So it was like, technology can be good and bad, I guess. I don't know.
Yeah. I mean, it, it absolutely can be, I mean, but I do like it though.
Yeah. I don't know. It's cool. Just see what's going on when you're not there,
but man, it's a pain in your butt.
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But, but again, that's, that's that drive time, right?
Like sometimes like going down to a public place and walking around and doing
whatever, like you don't have the opportunity to maybe put something up, right?
So that's the part about being relatable to the average Joe.
We don't always have the opportunity to put a camera everywhere we want to be,
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even on a piece of private piece,
because we may not have the opportunity because of time constraints or whatever,
or because of, you know, trying to stay out of a bedding area or trying to stay
out of this or stay out of that.
You just may not have the opportunity. Also financial. Yeah,
you'll spend a fortune on cameras. I have two Tacticams that I still haven't
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put out for my property out in Montemaro, right?
Yeah. But that's, that's hard too.
I can't afford, you know, $150 cameras.
Like they're going out of style, you know? Yeah. So. Then you got to pay for subscriptions.
Subscriptions and things, which I love Tacticam. That's by all means,
I absolutely love it. They're great.
But so if I can't afford those, John put me on to Tasco.
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Tasco camera. Cheap ones from Walmart, like 20 bucks.
They do just take just as good pictures, but, you know, then it forces me to
go out there and pull a card.
And when, you know, that property is over an hour away, one way,
it's kind of like, well, is it worth it just to go see what's out there?
Or do I want that surprise?
Like, hey, you know what I mean? And I know out in Morrow, there's big deer.
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I have zero concerns about it.
I ain't touched it. I ain't been out there once this year besides,
or I think John and I went out there to take a stand down in like April.
Yeah. ain't been out there since but i know just because
of that area there's big boys out there there's some big boys
and it's you know it's crazy as you're talking about
driving out there to pull your card when i started hunting you'd
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have to go to the camera and get the camera roll out
of the camera and then go have it take it
and go get it developed oh boy did you even know that
no yeah that's what what do you got a polaroid picture
up there with the camera across the trail and it
triggers it basically is what it was i
mean so you know camera film right yeah i
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know the canister yeah you had to go you had to put that in
your trail camera yeah that was the first and then
make sure that your camera didn't die or something and your film still kind
of pulling through because you open up you open it up now light hit it's ruined
rough do you ever use those no wild because honestly if i'm being honest back
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back in illinois up until we bought our piece of property that we had land or whatever.
I mean, we were hunting state property. We were hunting property that we really
didn't hang a lot of cameras because we knew some of the people that hunted
those same properties were not always the easiest to deal with.
And they tried to take your equipment. Like we caught them trying to take ladder
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stands and that type of stuff. Right.
So that's another concern that when you're hunting that type of stuff,
maybe being mobile, right.
Being mobile is, is something that you have to think about, especially doing
that. And I think, And, you know, that's something we talked to Stan about last night, right?
Stan said he went from being 50 or 60 pounds packing in mobile to this year
he cut it down to like 30 or 40 packing in mobile by changing his setup,
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changing some of his gear and doing some of that stuff.
But when you're talking the difference in 30 pounds and you may be packing in
a mile, like 30 pounds is a lot.
60 pounds. What all are you taking? Well, but he films everything.
So you have your camera, you have your camera arm. You have your camera arm,
you have your cameras, you have all that stuff.
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I mean, your bow, your platforms, your sticks, you name it.
I mean, but that's the crazy part. I mean, like. Yeah, I take them bow and bag and that's it.
Right. Occasionally. Bow, bag, climber. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. That's a whole new dimension for me this year. It's going to be with a
clover. I love it. Well, now that I've learned a few things.
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Hey, you're learning. I mean, yeah. If you don't look stuff up and try to figure
it out, I mean, you're not going to figure anything out.
I mean, if I'm being honest, after talking about what this state property is
or isn't, because of being able to leave it up for that two weeks,
a mobile setup would be probably ideal for hunting state property because of
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the fact that if you go in, you
may be going in a little later because you want to be able to see things.
Or maybe you go in early, and then as the sun comes up, you're like,
oh, that looks like a really good spot over there, and you want to be able to get up and down easy.
So mobile whether it be saddle hunt
right because you know the saddle hunt guys they claim
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that the ability to shoot your bow out of
the tree in your range is insane you're not restricted now he said but if you're
a guy but if you're a guy that doesn't like heights talking to stan he's like
if you're a guy that doesn't like heights he said forget it because he said
it's a single piece of rope holding you to the tree that like there's there's
people that don't like that well i always
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have a rope that holds me to the tree so well yeah safety first
but you also have a platform under you that's
a little a little bigger than that two by platinum yeah
i couldn't saddle hunt i don't know i may try
at some point but i'm still a climber man yeah all day sits and stuff there's
no way a saddle's more comfortable in a climber i would have to agree i mean
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i want to try though I've looked at it and like knowing like what this.
These new opportunities and things like that, like looking at it,
I'm not a hundred percent sure yet, but I do still want to try it like side by side comparisons.
Like, I don't know. I'd have to definitely get in better shape before that though.
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Well, and here's the thing. Like
then you talk about average Joe and affordability and some of that stuff.
Some of those saddle setups get really expensive and pretty, pretty in depth.
But again, at that point though, like i don't
know how much you can trust some of the the cheap stuff because at
that same point it's like the old adage of you're you're cheap
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buy twice well by tweet by cheap
yeah by tweet tweet tweet but by cheap you
may not you may not have your life at the end of the point i mean like you're
you're 18 20 foot in the air and you fall i mean game over
maybe you know what i mean like yeah let's stop talking about that goes through
my head every year well no i'm just saying though like that's
what that's why we all up here if there's something but that's
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why we were safety harnesses so that's that's the point but still no
it's like but dangling from a tree for hours
before someone finds you with the harness i've had that happens
for some reason i actually had to call when i was 16
years old hunting the state property i used.
Myself climber up a birch tree and my
foot platform went down on me
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and i'm literally dangling on my
on my harness had to call my dad
use my use my bow rope to lower down so
he could get to my foot platform pull the foot platform back up
stick my feet back in the things to to get
it down and then and then go back to town but like i mean
you talk about that like being 16 years old and
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just dangling from a tree and then having to call your dad like luckily i
had my cell phone on and we were we were in range or
i didn't drop it climbing a tree you shouldn't have well but
again again i was research search but but i
was 16 years old that's what i'm saying and and the guy and the guys
that were teaching me to hunt at that point in time they have
never used climbers right right it
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was it was new they had always ground hunted and we.
Went to cabela's to the bargain cave right and they had
a they had a cheap climber so i tried it right so for the average joe watching
pay attention to your trees you're climbing yeah i mean always have a rope connecting
your top form to your bottom platform so i can i can tell you after that scenario
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because of where we hunted in some of the hills.
I did not ever not have a rope attaching my foot platform in case I didn't have
my phone or whatever, because dude, otherwise I would have had to wait until
my dad was done hunting till it was dark to come back and get me.
Well, you can actually get injured just from hanging there too,
though. Well, yeah. Cause your circulation. Yeah.
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Cut off. And yeah, dude. That exact situation is why I stopped using a climber.
Cause that's all I used for the longest time when I
like first started hunting by myself was just a climber and
i had the bottom fall out on me and i was like no i'm good
yeah when i first started using the climber was out of morrow first time
out there i went out like a couple days before found the tree i wanted to
put it on there i didn't look up the tree though right it was a locust tree
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so they have the thorns oh that are like four inches long yeah i got this too
easy i got about six foot off the ground i said that's it i'm good here yeah
so i had a i had to run in with a locust tree back in Illinois,
we had this, we had this big buck that like, I finally was in a position where
I had vacation time and this buck was coming on my tacticam.
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It was every morning, like clockwork, he was at the same spot.
So then I took a morning off, went and hunted. He showed up,
but he showed up 20 yards a different direction. So I'm like,
oh, I'm going to fix this.
He's been here three days in a row. I'm going to move this tree stand.
Him. Well, the only tree that was good to get it in was locust tree.
Do you know how painful that was to put that up?
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And then, and then to take your saw, because like, where are you going to lean
back against that tree and cut off all those thorns that way you can sit there
only to have him then walk by again the next day where, where you just moved the tree stand from.
And it's just crazy. Like, you know, the, the number of times that that stuff happens.
It's deer hunting. Oh, hope and that's why they call it hunting not
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killing that's right so i mean that's the cool
stuff guys i mean i think that that that's the stuff that makes
it that makes it relatable and fun you want to
you want to talk about deer being smart like you don't even know they're there
and they're making moves on you it's a chess match yeah i'm ready man it is
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dude i'm gonna tell you so not what was it like a week and a half ago we had
some mornings that were like 50 degrees
and those mornings man you're like oh buddy it's
coming and then you go back to 100 degrees and it's like
nah i'm good enough pass i'm just
ready honestly just ready to be out there and just chilling
yeah i don't even care if i see a deer at this point right now yeah i'm just
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ready to relax out there right some sometimes i mean i think hunting for the
average joe isn't always just hunting right it's it's your peace it's your tranquility
it's your it's your whatever you want
to call it your mind clearing stage. It's, it's your getaway.
It doesn't matter if you see anything, you just get out there and you're like.
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Yeah, I enjoy, that's why I enjoy hunting mornings more. Cause I like getting
in the super early where it's pitch black. You hear everything and you get to
see the woods come alive.
And you know, you have hours and hours to hunt compared to hunting in the evenings.
But yeah, I like going out there. Even, even I've had the worst luck over the
last five years that I had good luck.
Like anything that could go wrong has gone wrong. It's been that long already.
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It's been longer than that. Hunting? Yeah.
Dang, I remember when you started. Me too. did you gotta
think how long i've been at my current employer i
just time flies yeah but i enjoyed like
going out there in the morning just sitting there just waiting for the sun to come
up i i like people ask me all the time well do you
like killing deer i'm like i don't like it i enjoy it because it you know it's
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feeds my family right it's a good pastime i think it's gives you an intimate
feeling with the animal right like our ancestors no matter where you're from
but just There's something about it. Well, so take that one step further.
You talk about the woods coming alive and we capture some of those moments via
camera, trail camera, right?
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Like right now we've had some pictures where like the paintings just,
they don't get any better, right?
The canvases, the backdrops, they, we wouldn't have the opportunity to see some
of the things we see if we didn't have a camera out there.
If we, if we weren't out there in the tree, if we weren't out there in the blind
or, you know, whatever, like.
And I think that that's, that makes a difference.
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So I know, I know we did it. We did it a little crazy this week just because
we didn't have time to announce it on Facebook because we put this podcast together
live on our field staff page because we didn't have time to go on the main page.
Does the field staff have any questions or any comments that they want to throw
into the Average Show podcast before we go on to the next topic?
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I haven't seen any questions a lot of like comments just saying hey and agreeing
with some of the things that we're saying while I've been watching so okay so
we've been watching so I mean,
I know you guys were there. I mean, the last time we talked was probably when
we did the winners of that Average Joe turkey podcast.
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You know, winners. We did the Average Joe turkey contest. We are going to do
an Average Joe deer contest.
And we are going to have some different stuff there that depending on.
Average Joe and Average Joe. There we go. There it is.
Take the bucks out of it completely. Just Average Joe. Yeah. yeah
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uh so we goes for joe's so we're
gonna we're gonna do some cool stuff i'll kind of cue you
in on a couple things because by the time you hear this
you may see the post as well so let's start
by saying that's not all ironed out yet oh it's a hundred percent so number
one we don't have any of the prizes ironed out because it's all based on number
of entries for the prizes but we are are going to try to get more people involved
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by doing a unique trail cam photo from season.
So you can submit any trail cam photo that you think is unique,
and we're going to do it kind of like bracket play where we're going to have
a certain number of winners for four months,
and then those winners at the end of
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the season are going to get put into a a
bracket and we're going to let our public viewers vote on what
they feel is the best on like a head-to-head matchup
type thing to give to make it fun so
we're going to have we're going to have our pro staff pick the top five for
each month ish and then we'll iron out what the bracket's going to be but the
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public is going to pick the winner that that's what we know for a fact the public
is picking the winner how we do the contest for each week but we're going to do a unique contest.
We, of course, are going to do a youth contest just because of the fact that
the youth are a huge part of what we do, that we got to have them involved.
What were some of the other ideas? I mean, like, we're just throwing this out.
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Cause I want you guys to know that like, we take this serious.
I mean, we had probably an hour conversation last night about this and other things.
So when we do this stuff, guys, like it's, it's not like, oh,
Hey, like, we're just going to throw this together.
It's like, Hey, let's, let's get like, you know, eight to 10 guys with their minds together.
And let's try to figure out the best way to get you guys as average shows involved. So, I mean, like.
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It was like longest time was one of them. Yeah. The biggest dressed weight dough,
some different things like that that we're looking at.
Yeah. So, I mean, there's going to be some cool stuff that way.
We're going to do, we do know for a fact that we are going to keep the entry
fee low like we did for the turkey contest.
We're going to keep it at 20 bucks with 100% of the funds going towards prizes.
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So, the more entries, the bigger the prizes, the more prizes we do.
So, we will be doing that.
What else? What else did I say we were going to talk about at the beginning?
I feel like there was something else. No.
No? As I say, I can't think of much. I know season's gearing up. Yeah.
A lot of people were, I mean, heck, season's starting here soon. Well, shoot.
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So Kentucky opens this coming week?
Today's the first Kentucky I think opens September 7th opens.
It opens the day after my birthday.
So my shorts. Yeah. So, I mean, I guess that's the other part of it is, is guys.
So like we, we talk about people shooting speed goats out West.
It's a, it's already hunting season. It's here. It's on us.
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You know, we, we jokingly say
we haven't done anything yet to really prepare, but we got, we'll shoot.
What do we got like 24 days till our season opens?
Yeah. It's like the end of month. yeah 25 like so is it the 25th or the 30th,
has a question who's planning on
hunting the uh first week patterns i for one would
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say i really don't hunt a pattern on the first like week or so i try not to
go a lot but if i do i go in the evenings and i personally just try to go to
where obviously the wind's right but also just where i've seen the most doe
that's for me that's what i do because i just like to knock the rust off get
one down, get the nerves out as much as I can.
And everything's still dialed in. You can shoot out of target so many times,
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but it's different when there's, you know, a deer standing in front of you. Yeah, for sure.
I probably won't be out till like November.
Well, shoot, we talk about football. I mean, I think, so we have a game every
Sunday in September and then we got the first two weeks of October,
there's games and then I don't, I don't remember what it goes to after that, but I know.
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You ain't got to worry about that. Anything after that, you're all right.
All right, here we go. I probably won't be out until November until he calls
me the week of opening day. Oh, we got to go. Come on.
It's too hot. I got to cut that grass, though. Yeah.
Probably make it happen, though. I was going to say, I mean,
there's just something about going out opening day. Opening day, absolutely.
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Well, shoot, we did it. And just base layers. Yeah, pretty much.
Because it'd be 90 again.
That's what I hope for this year is like...
I want all the rut phases to be cool.
That's all I'm asking. Not too much. Right. Never happens anymore. It's always hot. Yeah.
I'm over it. I heard Kyle Hoon said you never shoot for turkey season.
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Don't get me. I'll message you in a minute.
He's like, John, hold that thought. I'll get at you. Green shot something for him.
I have a question for you guys. Fire away. I know the answer,
but I think, you know, for the average joke,
people that knew or getting into it do
you change your camo pattern based off
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of the season time of the year so do you wear
a different camo pattern for early season compared to mid to late not the thickness
you know not your cold weather year but like for me i personally i have two
that i wear well three now that i wear predominantly or i have under armor that
i wear i think i forget what's It's called Under Armour that I wear,
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you know, beginning of the season, super light.
I like it. It's, you know, I can, I don't sweat through it. So I'm not putting out extra odor.
Then I, this year I'm switching to the X-Terrain Mossy or Bottomlands.
Yeah. And then late season, it's the Realtree Edge Escape. Escape.
Yeah. So. Well, I was going to say, so I'm going to tell you that like normally,
obviously I don't switch. I think that's the escape that I have there.
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But I, I am a big believer that after some of those cool mornings of turkey
season that we're out there.
I'm going to try what?
Well, he told him I had to screenshot him back. Yeah. So.
So before ryan got all distracted he's gonna
try his turkey camo i'm guessing yeah so i'm
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gonna try it because it was light and honestly it's the same what
pattern is that so that's that's the pure yeah
that's the x-train green which i think will work really well yeah in early season
but i'm still probably gonna obviously it's it's not thick enough to wear all
season right but there's enough layers there that i think like you i'm not gonna
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have to worry about sweating my butt off, but I'll have pockets.
I'll have all that stuff that I need. I mean, like I seen, I seen guys wearing it at bear camp.
I seen guys wearing it in Canada. Like I think it's versatile enough that you
can wear it for Turkey season.
Cause they made it. So it was kind of light, but yet some obviously cool, crisp morning suit.
It's super light. Yeah. Which I really liked and how you said pockets,
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because a lot of time, early season, you don't have pockets i wear base layer
yeah that's it well i'm a fat guy so i sweat enough as it is.
So i like the breathable you know
like even even something as stupid as the zipper
on that pant that allows air
to come into the pant like something that simple makes
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it more comfortable for me even when it's a little warmer especially because
there's gonna be times that i'm gonna be in the blind with the kids which is
gonna be hotter than hades because it's a blind line there's it's stale there's
no air movement but it's fun did he get a response back yet.
Uh so that's funny all right what
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else we got i think i'm gonna change mine
up too this year yeah i think i'm gonna use the bottom land starting off and
then yeah switch it over i'm a big fan i like the bottoms land of what pure
white tail came out with their camo like the way it fits and stuff like that
i like the bottom bottoms land more that's my personal preference yeah but i
love the pants um i love how they have that inner liner from that knee down,
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absolutely love it i think it's comfortable big fan
it's well it makes it easy to help protect yourself from ticks and crap getting
up your legs which we would still so that's the beauty i think that makes it
interchangeable is the fact that the same ticks that you're dealing with in
early spring you're dealing with in early fall right like it's it's still it's still that same problem,
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them you lost the tooth we lost the tooth oh shoot
oh was it jack jack that's contact
football for you this has literally been the tooth fairy's gonna do refinance
yeah dude mortgage so i can tell you so here if uh we keep doing this hey so
yeah so hilarious but not hilarious i literally texted john as we were warming
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up the one time i said dude i got your kid's tooth in my pocket.
Brother, I'm telling you, Jackson, so we, he lost a tooth. His first year of
playing was second grade.
He lost a tooth at one of our home games, lost three teeth when we were in Tennessee.
So, like, it's like all of a sudden all these, and we never found a single one.
Yeah. They'd call timeout, everybody, all the kids on the field,
that's so cool, I'm going to play the game.
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Never find his tooth. He's got teeth all over the place.
It's insane. That's cool. What's a tooth fairy pay these days?
Well the uh interest rates are extremely
high and you know cost of living is
extremely high why oh you're
i mean if we want to do a political podcast i can i
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can talk for 45 minutes on politics here i was gonna say i can talk about i
can talk about uh binomics all day if i if if given the opportunity so so being
an average joe we'll keep politics out of it for now i agree we We may do a
podcast one day just on politics before the election. Lord.
I think here's the thing. I think there's a time and place.
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America. Yeah. I think there's a time. I think there's a time and place for it.
But I also think that preaching to the average Joe is more important than, than that.
Now there's no, there's nothing more important than our, than what we live in. Right.
But I think too many people get butt hurt no matter what side you're on. So you're better off.
I'm on the right side. Well, okay. Okay. Again, done. I'm not even going to
(48:24):
try to go there. We're done.
So with that, so let's- I mean, I fly an American flag, so you can tell who I vote for.
Yeah. I mean, so do I. So it's not a big deal.
On that, I think we do our weekly wrap up like we normally do.
We're sitting with a pretty good venture.
People will be able to basically listen to it on the way into work and way home.
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And that's our goal. So doing these podcast guys, Guys, we don't want them to
be too long that you got to listen to them three different times to try to finish an episode.
Our goal is to be able to try to let somebody, you know, listen to part of it
on the way to work, part of it on the way home and finish it up.
So with that being said, Josh, let us give you your weekly.
John Calhoun has one last question. What's that?
He says, late season, do you like hunting when the deer head to bed or come out of bed?
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I prefer coming out of bed. Yeah.
I've never really thought about it Honestly too much I go based More patterns
If I'm seeing them in certain areas And I know For the most part Like out in
Morrow Which way the wind blows In the morning versus the evening That's how
I gauge it Based off of patterns Yeah.
So I think that ties back to his comment earlier where you're asking if you're,
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if you're following a pattern within that first week, I think where you said
you're not following a pattern in the first week by the end of the year when
there's snow on the ground. Oh, absolutely.
Yeah. At that point in time, I think you, you are patterning. Yes.
Try to hunt the corn. Yeah. Try to hunt food. Food. Yeah.
I've been, I mean, since Lancaster came on, on the podcast a while back and
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was talking about wind and all that.
Like I noticed last year, Tony
and I, we hunted a lot together and we took the wind in consideration.
So I think to answer John's question, it would be whichever pattern,
the stand that we have, or we can put a stand in place that gives us the best
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opportunity based on the wind.
I think, is that fair? Yeah, no, that's fair. I mean, cause I think truly like
we talked about it last year.
I think that we tried to give ourself more opportunity to be more scent free.
And I think maybe that's another podcast that we'll jump back in on and maybe
touch a little bit more on, because like you said, you tried to take your,
your scent elimination to a whole nother level. He was doing it.
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So I think after, you know, after having that podcast we did with Lancaster,
he talked about his feelings on it.
I think it'd be, it'd be cool to kind of recap that and redo that just so that
way, you know, the people that maybe weren't listening then and want to listen
now, that'd be a good opportunity for them.
Yeah. Yeah, I think next one when we do that, I think, especially hunting out
where we are, where we drew, that really played a big part in because we hunted
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the ground the whole time. Yeah.
So to have a big mature buck walk up maybe 20 yards from us. Yeah.
I'm not saying it was down when I don't remember. I was too nervous which one.
I love hunting the ground. Still to this day, I've killed more deer sitting
on the ground than in a stand.
So I will tell you. So here, let's do this. Let's end with our coolest experience, hunting.
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Dude i mean there's a lot so i had one a couple years
ago this one okay well then we'll wait and save that never mind
i mean i'm just saying we can talk about his we can just break
it do say one right now yeah we'll do one so a
couple there's been a lot but one like
crazy experience i guess was a couple years ago
it was during one phase of the rut everybody says rut
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but ruts a long there's multiple phases i
don't know what phase it was pitch black walking down
to my tree stand and i hear something you know you can hear
deer walking i'm like man i better
stop because it kept getting closer and closer then you
start hearing smelling around and
everything i'm like how was that okay i
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was like dude i guarantee you because
like i said it was during one of the phases above or the rut
i'm like this is a buck so where i
walked my stand in brown county there's like a couple tiers and
then it goes down a hill so i'm waiting waiting he comes
up the hill and no lie walks by me
i'm staying right here like you're the deer like i could have pet it like i
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thought that was pretty cool yeah it was like a little six or whatever but it
was a little it was cool i was excited like this is pretty sweet but also i
don't want to say scared but prepared yeah because i mean a deer will whoop
up on you i don't care yeah it was like.
Dude oh my gosh like what do i do so i just kind of stay in
there and he just goes right by me it's like what the heck i don't know pretty cool
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yeah josh what about you that's a
tough word no i would say for me it was it has nothing to
do with me harvesting a deer it was when one of our properties that
john's hunted forever opc's got a lot of
you know memories and emotional attachments to it freezing we
were hunting and i think we talked about it before actually he
said dude let's go we're getting down by the time i
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got to the base of the tree stand john called face
ties me he said oh my gosh
there's a deer down like yeah whatever dude okay i
don't believe that he's like i'm serious like yeah right he said
no i'm serious it's over there and he's shaking i'm like i'll be there in like
two minutes and i get over there and it looks like a murder scene from the grim
reapers like oh you're serious he's still up there shaking in the stand like
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like it was cool because that was literally i think the last hunt on that property if i'm not mistaken.
No, his kids got to come out. My kids came out.
You know, and then that property was sold maybe not even six months later or something like that.
So for me as a friend, like that was probably one of my favorite memories I have.
He had nothing to do with me harvesting an animal, but knowing his emotional
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attachment, how long he's been hunting out there.
And that's where I learned, you know, the basics to hunting out there.
It meant a lot to me and made sure I got, I still have like 700 pictures on
my phone from all, you know, everything we did out there. But I thought it was good.
You know, he got that, you know. as a matter of
fact that was one year later
to the date from the buck you harvested the year
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prior wasn't it yeah i was gonna say so john now
that he's taking those memories what memory you got left yeah john
what memories do you have left it would
be honestly your first your first deer kill out
there being 20 yards away not even
these deer what we're texting
each other back and forth worth yeah so now
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when josh first got into to hunting he
he went out and he i think you bought a crossbow right before because your bow
you had some issues with it the first bow you had pay for what you get yeah
and yeah i seen a couple deer come and let josh know the next thing i know i
just hear this just what can i'm like.
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Did you shoot? But I didn't hear anything run. So I was kind of like,
like two deer came in and I seen like one run off and I'm like,
pretty sure he just shot that deer.
And I literally, Stan was probably five foot taller than the one Josh was in.
And I beat him down because I was just like that pump just to see like,
all right, did he do this?
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And like to see like the excitement on his face and everything like that afterwards.
Like it was totally, totally worth it. It's probably one of my best memories by far. Sure.
So my memory was not a harvest was not anything, but it was hunting state property.
Down along a river. We call it the apple river.
So the whole side of the other hill was a bluff and then the river flowed against it, like where it cut.
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And like, we used to be down in these bluffs sitting on the ground in some sawgrass.
I made my own like little blind that I sat in the middle of the sawgrass that
I just stopped down some grass, like a deer bedding in the middle of of it and
kept some up around me and put it in some trails.
And dude, I tell you what, back then I called it moose antlers.
I now know it's called palmated, but I called it moose antlers and,
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and dude, this, this bucket, I mean, it wasn't huge, but it was this eight point
that had all these palmated antlers and, and kind of just a little bit different color walking.
Walking was within five yards of me.
Like I needed it to take one more step to be able to draw my bow back.
It didn't take the step but it turned around and walked
away and just like sitting there in
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awe like did that really just happen and then
never seen that deer again but to the
fact of being able to have that memory
of acing what i call the moose antler deer but a palmated deer
non-typical deer sitting on the ground at five
yards it was just cool it was
it was just one of those things that you'll never forget and especially
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like you take it you take it like all of
us have those memories right but like against the
river against the bluff like it's like storyline
stuff right like if should have been videotaping it like because
nobody will believe it like that type of storyline yeah but
yeah so well that's the way
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it is when you're out there in the woods and everything like you never know and
it's always something like even if it's not
deer just watching the other animals out there and how they
go about their day or whatever it's it's
wild that's what i was gonna say is like for me like those types of like thoughts
or like any time that i'm watching like a deer like it may sound like crazy
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but i feel like i can almost think about like every deer i've ever saw because
it's just like one of those like just weird moments where it's like.
Like, I mean, just like when we were hunting last year, you had that buck that
was 130 yards to the right of us down in that bowl, just watching, watching him work.
I mean, it wasn't anything special or anything like that, but I mean,
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just seeing him way that he was.
And then like that one that we had come running out while he was running the
combine there to our left, like just little things like that.
It's like anytime i'm sitting there and i see a deer come by and it's like wow like i just
outsmarted this deer in some way shape or form right like they
have no clue that i'm here and i'm just watching them and it's like
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you just feel like like you're not even like it's something you shouldn't even
be a part of i'm batman yeah bobcats killing raccoons oh my gosh that was last
year wasn't it geez so the first time i saw a bobcat i was out in morrow i'm
like what is that That's a fat cat running through the field.
I thought it was just an overweight cat.
It's got a raccoon hanging out of its mouth. Yeah. Well, then last year,
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it was just us out there, wasn't it? No.
It might have just been us out there, I think. Maybe. I think it was just you
guys. You were in the stand.
Wow. I'm like, geez, old Pete. Was that a banshee? It went on for a while.
Yeah. That was scary. It was like that. Yeah.
And out there, don't we have a picture of a pretty good-sized bobcat?
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Yeah. Well, we got the picture on the other side of the field,
and then it was like 17 minutes later we heard that. I'm like, that's crazy. Oh, boy.
I'm in a bond. I'm like, dear baby Jesus.
I won't mess with you. Yeah, man. There's a lot of good memories, too.
I think that should be a good podcast. We should do that.
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It's just a memories podcast. I think what would be cool, too,
is if we can keep them on track, having the boys down here.
That's been up Fort and Hop as well but
I know Jake and Leland and Jackson have a good one first time they ever went
hunting it was a complete and utter failure we had Frisch's breakfast though
afterwards which makes it a win for sure absolutely back when Frisch's was good
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yeah not no more not sponsored by them at all,
just so everyone's aware but we are looking no I'm just kidding Bob Evans.
Yeah alright Josh what do you want to leave the average joes with nope once
again uh hey i appreciate you guys come allowing me to be on here with you guys
appreciate the friendships the brotherhood,
(01:00:10):
You guys, you know, not to get emotional by any means, but you guys mean a lot to me.
You know, I don't have a big circle anymore, you know, since leaving the Army.
I think I personally have found it hard to find that camaraderie amongst friends.
Yeah. But definitely appreciate you guys.
And the relationship we have is probably the closest I've ever had since serving.
So, you know, I appreciate you guys, generally. Even Tony.
(01:00:34):
And the kids, too. Whatever. Every time you see me, you get happy. I do.
I actually do. dude i'm like hey tony you're my
boy blue i always actually what's crazy is i always end up
talking about tony when i have like friends that went to fairfield like
i had he was a god it was literally the other day someone graduate austin krauss
(01:00:54):
he graduated from fairfield i think in nine or something like that i was 05
dude i was gonna say that was long before i don't know but uh he He recognized your last name.
Well, a lot of Fairfield people do. Kind of a big deal. Tony,
do whatever you spell it.
Yeah. Yeah, I like how you saved my name in there. That's hilarious.
(01:01:16):
You don't want to see Ryan's.
Tony, what do you want to leave the average Joe with? Well, season's approaching.
Get out there. If you don't have cameras like me in one of my spots,
try to get them up if you want to put them up.
Otherwise just get your gear ready get
you all your stands ready if you're
(01:01:36):
doing that wash your clothes and everything we're keeping it simple for
average joe wash up get your
bow ready make sure you're on go have fun perfect john
you backed that up i mean talk about blanket statement i mean no i mean i was
gonna leave them with the same thing just make sure that you're you're putting
in your work right if you don't if you don't want to do cameras don't do cameras
(01:01:59):
but But I would definitely recommend getting your bow out, make sure that you're on,
make sure that you're comfortable with your equipment. You owe it to that animal.
Yeah. Just keep it. That's like I say all the time before we go hunt, make it simple.
Got my boots, got my bow, got my arrows.
I'm good. So keep it simple. Everybody that's starting out and everything.
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Yeah. Don't forget your release.
Yeah. Yeah. Or your boots.
Or your boots or your boots or your boots i forgot too
dude i didn't do that last year i had a good system just for everyone the previous
year not last year the year before i had a bad run of i would get to the truck
get ready and then oh man i forgot about it leave me at the hunting property
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i'll be back or just wear or just wear shoes in right oh hey dudes.
That's hilarious all right so guys i'm gonna end you with this we we appreciate
you letting us be the home of the average Joe.
We have, we have another big contest coming with the average show deer contest,
and we'll get more details to that to follow.
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But again, we definitely had this long time coming.
Uh, we're going to, I'm not going to put an exact number on it. Like I did the last time.
Cause it made a liar out of me, but we will definitely make sure that they are
more consistent, more available and more in tune with what you're looking for.
Because without you, we couldn't do do what we do and you
know not to get down to
(01:03:26):
the nitty-gritty but moral of the story is i we kind
of had some conversations in the last week that the only
thing that hrx is going to be founded on is what what do we say the average
joe the average joe period there we will not go away from that so from us to
you we appreciate you we're going to end this one for tonight and we'll see you next time Thank you.
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