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September 6, 2023 18 mins

JBMV Discussion w/ Kimberly Bailey-Tureaud (daughter of the Las Vegas pioneer and legend Dr. William H. "Bob" Bailey), we discuss black entertainer and celebrity history in Las Vegas.

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(00:10):
Welcome to the Just Buy My Vote podcast.
I am Joseph Simmons,
the host and also author of the new book Just Buy My Vote,
African American voting rights and the Chicago Condition.
I am honored to have Las Vegas royalty with me today Kimberly Bailey-Tureaud.
Amongst other things is the owner publisher of the Las Vegas Black Image Magazine and also host of the Enterprising People radio show,

(00:40):
Kimberly Bailey.
Welcome to the Just By My Vote podcast.
Hi,
Joseph.
Thanks for having me.
It's my pleasure.
Kimberly,
my honor.
There are several things we could talk about in the time we have.
However,
I'd like to start by asking you to address the JBMV Avatar and I'll explain what I mean in my writing of the book just by my vote.

(01:02):
I found myself continually asking what are the best sources of American history.
So please address the JBMV Avatar if you will.
He or she is a 20 to 30 year old male or female and interested in history,
but for whatever reason,
was not a history major in school or maybe didn't attend college.

(01:25):
He or she is wondering,
where do I start. Kimberly Bailey.
What have you found to be your favorite or best sources?
My favorite and best sources have been.
I,
I had the pleasure of going to Spelman College in Atlanta,
Georgia.
And you know,
one thing about going to college and I know this is not for people that have maybe gone to college.

(01:46):
But I don't know,
I think who's ever around your immediate circle,
your elders,
your aunts,
your,
you know,
people that have gone through a period of time,
they can answer so many questions as,
as it relates to conflict resolutions,
as it relates to just personal finance,

(02:07):
what they did to succeed.
That one on one conversation has been a tremendous source.
I guess that's why I even do radio because it gives me a chance to ask any questions.
I might have to,
to really some wonderful,
wonderful professionals and people that have live the life.
So I say the first order of business is to just have wonderful conversations,

(02:31):
curious conversations,
uh be a critical thinker and being able to converse about history,
their personal history and then also uh books,
books,
books,
books,
books,
if you read a good book,
it's as though the author is speaking directly to you.
And I love my father's book,

(02:52):
you know,
Looking up! Finding My Voice in Las Vegas that chronicled his personal life.
So it's that personal connection that has really helped me with my life.
I had the wonderful opportunity to uh take up a class with Pearl Cleage uh class with Maya Angelou when I was at Spelman and uh Doctor Maya Angelou.

(03:14):
And when I had these personal conversations,
I can ask them any questions about life of what's the greatest attribute can I hold in my life that will help me throughout my historic journey.
And um Doctor Angelou always would say you have to have courage and I think that she was so right because um you know,

(03:40):
the life is no crystal stair.
So you have to uh have the courage to see it through,
still enjoy your life and just face things right in the eye,
you know,
right in the face and,
and come up with how you're going to get over whatever hurdles you might have understood.
Now,
I gotta ask you to tell us more about your dad's book.

(04:02):
Oh,
ok.
Yeah.
He passed on in 2014,
but he wrote a wonderful book about his personal life and it's called Looking Up! Finding My Voice in Las Vegas.
He would always say who said it's gonna be easy because life is not just an easy ride and uh but his,
but it was adventurous.

(04:23):
His book is so wonderful and written and,
and it's so adventurous.
He,
he starts with uh being just a young,
a young boy and trying to make money in Cleveland,
Ohio and he would,
he would sell ice,
you know,
in his red wagon.
And um he would take this little red wagon to big uh,
projects and,

(04:45):
uh,
some people couldn't pay for their,
their ice.
And when you open the book,
it talks about how a lady said,
well,
boy,
give me,
bring that ice up here and,
uh,
but I'm gonna give you something better than money.
So it's just wonder what has you laughing.
You don't know what that would happen,
you know.
But then he went on to Morehouse College and how he got on the train.

(05:06):
And my,
his mother,
my grandmother packed him a lunch to eat on the train to go to Atlanta,
Georgia from Cleveland.
And he was such an adventure.
His,
his mentor was Doctor Benjamin Mays and he was the president of Morehouse at the time.
And uh he was,
he became friends and classmates with Doctor Martin Luther King junior.

(05:28):
And uh they were in the glee club together.
They would go eat breakfast at his house before going back to class.
And uh he chronicles all of these experiences even um being selected from the glee club in Morehouse uh by Count Basie to join the band and go on the road as an entertainer and how he met Billie Holiday.

(05:53):
And she was going through her abuse,
struggle with drugs and,
and she would,
you know,
just the experience of being in the room.
And he only,
she only allowed my father in the room when she was shooting up with the drugs and,
and he,
he talks about that in the book and just wonderful relationships with Nat King Cole and Sammy Davis,

(06:15):
how,
when they were in Vegas years later and how they were going to buy AAA Hotel on the strip and uh that so King Cole and Sammy and my father put all their money together and was about to close on the property and the day of closing on the property,
it was burnt down to the ground.

(06:36):
So it's just,
it's a,
it's just a wonderful,
wonderful book.
He was a broker,
real estate broker like Joseph.
And so he um he believed in real estate.
You know,
he talked about it as far as building wealth and it just so many stories about the Moulin Rouge when they came to Las Vegas in 1955 him and my mother,

(06:57):
my mother was a dancer in the Apollo.
So they met when my father was on the road with Count Basie and the entertainment industry.
And then they,
you know,
they from the east Coast,
they came here to Las Vegas because they were actually putting on a,
a show in this first integrated hotel called the Moulin Rouge.
And it would only stayed open for six months.

(07:17):
And um but dad said he wanted to stay in Vegas,
he didn't want to go back.
They had a house selected in Philadelphia,
they were gonna purchase and they were gonna move back to Philadelphia after the Moulin Rouge closed unexpectedly and there's a lot of controversy with that.
But anyway,
they,
they stayed here in Las Vegas and,

(07:37):
and then shortly after that I came along in the sixties.
Are,
are you an only child?
By,
by chance?
No,
I have a older brother.
Got you.
Ok.
All right.
Very good for the folks that would want to look at that book.
Tell us one more time.
The title and your dad's full name.
It's called Looking Up! Finding My Voice in Las Vegas.

(07:58):
And it's Yeah,
and it's,
um,
you could Google it,
you could still order it.
I believe.
If not,
I have a garage full of books.
Ok.
Very good.
And you have a second,
uh,
favorite source.
Yeah.
Well,
my first source was one on one personal conversations.
My second was books,
literary books.
I think my third source of gaining knowledge from historic,

(08:23):
uh,
events,
uh,
chronicling historic events is,
is actually through the media.
I love documentaries.
I love audio.
I love podcasts.
I love and I,
I love to gain historic information from those sources.
Nice.
Let's shift,
just shift gears.
Just a little bit.

(08:43):
Kimberly.
How did you get into the business?
Wow.
I got,
well,
I think I've always,
I grew up in Las Vegas.
My parents were from the entertainment industry,
so I was always surrounded by,
I'd wake up in the morning and Sammy Davis Junior would be sleeping on our couch.
Red Fox.
Would be in the kitchen.

(09:04):
Slappy white George Kirby,
a Sugar Ray Robinson.
I mean,
it was just so many people in my house because they were all friends from back east of my father.
So when they came to Vegas still dealing with a lot of discrimination,
a lot of them couldn't stay in the hotels.
So many of them would stay in our,

(09:24):
at our home.
And I remember one time waking up and Sammy was laying on the couch and then this young lady was sitting on our floor and I was like,
why is she sitting on the floor?
And,
but it was uh it was his girlfriend.
It was Lola.
Wow.
And I remember asking my father why she was sitting on the floor.
So it was just a wonderful exciting time even though it was a lot of segregation at that time,

(09:51):
Vegas was very different.
I mean,
we um you know,
we in the community,
I grew up in Bonanza Village.
It's almost like the Baldwin Hills.
It was the Baldwin Hills of Las Vegas because black people,
we couldn't live wherever we wanted to live.
Mostly we lived on the historic West side.
But it was wonderful because uh you know,
we,
it was a lot of unity when you wanted to have fun,

(10:14):
people would come to each other's house,
bring a pot of food.
It was pot luck barbecues,
plenty of barbecues in the parks and in the backyard and swimming in the swimming pools.
And uh my godmother,
uh Dottie West and Doctor West lived around the corner and um,
they would,

(10:35):
uh they knew a whole slew.
They were very Louis Armstrong would be at their house or delay.
And so I grew up,
so to answer your question,
I was very influenced at a very young age about show business.
And of course,
II,
I wanted to be a go go girl because we,
my dad owned a liquor,
a lounge,
a liquor lounge,

(10:55):
Sugar Hill.
And uh I used to just see the beautiful go go girls all the time.
Uh So I wanted to get into dance and all of those things.
But grew up in Vegas,
graduated from Western High school,
went on to Spelman College.
Still had a very big,
deep,
deep interest in getting into something to do with the entertainment industry in some way.
I wasn't sure what I wanted to do.

(11:17):
I was a very good dancer in high school.
I think people remember that they used to say come to watch because I was a,
I was a song leader.
I was the head.
So I would do all the choreography for all the girls at,
at games and stuff like that.
So when I went to Spelman,
I wasn't sure that I knew that I enjoy writing.
And so I wanted to get in some aspects.

(11:38):
So I majored in,
in English and journalism was worked with the radio station at Clark Atlanta with WCLK.
Then,
uh,
you know,
after graduation came home,
stayed a week,
I didn't want to stay in Vegas.
So after that,
I went to Los Angeles to just kind of fulfill my dreams.
I wanted to get into the business.

(12:00):
Sidney Poitier sat down,
he was a very good friend of my dad's.
He sat down with me for a long time to try to help me decide what I would like to do what I would like to get into.
So I,
I took a lot of various jobs.
I worked for Mark Goodson with the game shows for a while.
I think I was his first African American hire.
And uh then I figured I,

(12:20):
I should get in some kind of public relations,
you know,
I love dealing with people.
And so I did that,
I,
I started working for the Urban League under John Mack with the Urban League when the Baldwin Hill Plaza was,
was uh being transformed,
so to speak.
And I was the public information officer for that project.

(12:43):
And then I just uh kind of got into the entertainment business while I was at Spelman.
I used to represent Spike Lee around campus to promote his movie,
Joe's Bed-Stuy Barbershop.
And uh so when I came to L A,
uh Spike needed a publicist.
So I brought him to Pat Tobin and Associates.

(13:03):
I started working for Pat.
I've had a big client.
Spike Lee.
So I worked that,
that's kind of what happened.
And I started becoming a entertainment publicist,
representing Paul Abdul,
represented Atlantic star and did the Soul Train Music Awards the first awards uh with Don Cornelius.
And then I just got really heavy into it.

(13:24):
I was always writing for some of the trades bre and,
and then I was doing my publicity and uh it just kind of all fell together.
It was a very exciting time when I lived in Los Angeles.
And uh and it was very,
very good to me,
you know,
and then after a while,
like I just came home to Las Vegas and uh got married and uh came home and had a child and that was my first and then just wanted to keep it going when I came to Las Vegas.

(13:56):
So the,
you know,
I remember KCP was having a very hard time.
Their antenna was um they were gonna lose the wattage.
So I did a fundraiser for them.
So they would get the money to get that antenna on Black Mountain.
And so I was able to write a grant.
I got them $100,000 to move the antenna.

(14:17):
I did a concert called Keeping The Voice Alive.
Barry White James,
Ingram Earth went a fire.
All the contacts I had made in Los Angeles.
The motions Big Daddy Kane.
Cool Mo D.
So we did the huge keeping the voice alive at the Thomas and Mac got the money that the station needed.

(14:38):
So now the station has an antenna.
I'm Black Mountain.
I know people don't talk about what I did,
but I did all that.
And so anyway,
I just,
you know,
and then from there I've always been very creative.
I got involved with helping people start their own businesses through Microbus.
I became the director of that program,

(14:59):
uh help many pe people and they're still in business today,
you know,
so I'm very proud of a lot of them doing what they have to do for their businesses.
And uh so I did that for about 20 years and I always had my business on the side as a publicist or pr or marketing.
And uh and it just,
and I started my first magazine called Ouch because I was doing,

(15:21):
I always did radio.
So I got it.
So I was doing entertainment gossip.
I did a Ouch magazine and I was on radio and I was writing for Jack the Rapper magazine still.
And uh then I,
um I met my second husband Charles and um then we uh we started Black Image Magazine and we've been doing that since 2008 and I'm on still on radio at KCP with Enterprise Great success.

(15:53):
So I hope,
I hope I got it all in.
I know it's a lot,
you know,
know,
you got a lot going on and you've had great success.
I'm gonna ask this question and I know it's probably gonna be hard to answer,
given,
given the success you've had.
But with what time we have,
what's one piece of advice you'd offer to your 20 year old self?

(16:14):
Wow,
my 20 year old self,
I think I would say to just enjoy those moments.
I jumped so quickly on different things,
but to kind of just enjoy a lot.
I did enjoy a lot though,
to enjoy the moments and also,

(16:34):
and to know that you were totally worthy of everything.
You already,
you have it,
you know,
the confidence because I find that I'm doing what I do now because of confidence.
But my confidence had to be built.
I think it had to be built.
So maybe at 20 I was I wasn't quite there but ,
I still have always been there like I was always fearless.

(16:57):
I never,
I never was shy.
I just went after whatever I thought I should have or whoever I needed to talk to.
I've always talked to the top even to this day.
I always,
I,
I go right to the top.
Well,
that's a great piece of advice.
Yeah,
sometimes if you talk to subordinates,

(17:17):
that's right where your ideal or where your momentum will stay.
But if you go to the top,
the top,
then can send you,
but at least the top has endorsed you.
Perfect.
Well,
this has been a real pleasure for me,
Kimberly Bailey.
Thank you so much and thank you for sharing with our listeners today.
Oh,
thank you,

(17:38):
Joseph.
You are just,
just wonderful and I just,
it's a blessing that you even considered me.
Thank you,
my pleasure.
Well,
well,
we hope you enjoyed that episode of the Just Buy My Vote podcast.
We're looking forward to the next episodes.
You can find the book at Just Buy My Vote dot com and feel free to follow us at Just Buy My Vote Podcast dot com for notification on upcoming podcasts and events.

(18:10):
We thank you for the privilege of your time and until next time Just Buy My Vote.
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