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In the Generations department now, we want to see that Generations has a strong biblical calling that we must make a missional commitment to.
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We want to see true friendship, mutuality come across Generations in contributing to the collaborative action in global mission.
That is what Congress is all about.
A very warm welcome to the Lausanne Movement podcast.
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For those who have a passion to accelerate global mission together.
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I'm your host, Jason Watson.
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And today on the podcast, we get to hear from Nana-Yaw, the Global Director of Generations for the Lausanne Movement.
During our time together, Nana shares why generational intentionality is so important for the kingdom of God.
But most excitingly, he shares about the next big event for the Lausanne movement, which is the Younger Leaders Gathering in 2026.
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And so if you're interested in hearing more about this event, I want to encourage you to grab your headphones and let's dive into today's interview with Nana-Yaw.
Nana-Yaw, welcome to the podcast.
Thank you, Jason.
It's so great to have you with us.
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I've been so blessed by your presence within the Lausanne movement.
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.999Even as we have engaged online you bring such vision and you, you speak with such authority and, and passion about Jesus and, and the generations and especially about the younger generation, which in some part I feel like I'm a part of, but I feel like I am in some part leaving that behind me as I grow older into, into my thirties.
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But I'm so blessed by your presence and I'm blessed by this moment to talk about generations and hopefully about YLJ in 2026 that you are going to announce in a couple of days time here at the Congress.
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So, one thing that I was very curious to about was just about your background.
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I know of you as a person, but I don't know your story.
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And one of the things I love about this podcast is to hear the backstory to those who are able to come and to sit with me.
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So could you share how you fell in love with Jesus and how you fell in love with his mission? Thank you, Jason.
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You bring a gift of friendship.
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I see you cheerfully all around and I'm just grateful to know you.
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In Africa, stories are not individual stories.
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Stories are more communal.
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So I didn't know my story as an individual, I mean, and how significant that was.
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That came to me a little bit later.
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Nana has become more of my kind of Reference, it's not a name, it's much more of a title.
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Royalty, right? It has something to do with royalty in one sense.
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It has something also to do with kind of the way families are structured.
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So your granddad is your nana, your grandmom is your nana.
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And when you are named after your granddad, your grandmom, sometimes that title is transferred to you in honor of your grandparents.
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My grandfather, My dad's paternal grandfather was a chief and I was named after him.
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So his Nana was a chief title.
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And when I was named after him, I think it just came along the line that my parents generation wanting to honor their father.
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Okay.
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So that is Nana Ewukus Granda.
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In that story, remember that my My paternal granddad was a traditional chief.
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My maternal grandparent side is an interesting story.
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My maternal granddad himself was a Presbyterian evangelist.
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I hear one of the very sacrificial ones.
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In fact, in my story of heritage, I think he is the one who stands out with kind of a commitment to the gospel, but his direct brother, after whom my mom was named, is the one who brought the fetish idol And so even from the background, you know, of a traditional chief ancestry from a Presbyterian evangelist with a brother as a fetish.
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Mine is a story of grace.
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I didn't grow up knowing the expressions of evangelical faith.
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Um, it was much more a nominal involvement in the Presbyterian church.
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You know, so I, I, Heard all the Bible stories.
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There was nothing about a personal, as it were, relationship with Jesus.
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In fact, just before coming to this Congress, I went to my high school to look at the classroom block in which when I was in high school, year one, I would hear the scripture union people praying and singing.
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I'm like, what's wrong up there? 19th January.
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1986, at a scripture union evangelistic rally hosted in our school.
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I hear this powerful commission of the gospel.
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Leaving my heart, I mean, just exposed.
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Like, does this preacher know about hidden sins in my heart? He's speaking so much about me.
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And speaking about Jesus in a way that is very unfamiliar to me.
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It was that day, I almost remember, an afternoon rally around 4 o'clock.
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When he gave an altar call, we said, Who would want to make a personal faith commitment to this Jesus? My friends sitting around me in the high school, it was a boarding kind of boys high school, they said, No, Okuhi is not speaking about you.
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You are a good boy.
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Sit down.
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So I said, okay.
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Whilst kind of the call to repentance comes in, it just struck me that these guys don't know me.
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There is sin in my heart.
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With their eyes closed, sitting down, I just got up.
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My life has never been the same again.
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19 January 86 till today.
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I know that Jesus makes the difference.
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In fact, it was that commitment and the change it brought to my life.
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And I can't get into all the details because of your time.
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But by the time I got to senior high school, it was a broken identity.
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It was.
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Kind of a future that looked very purposeless.
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It was who I, it was the identity right found in Jesus.
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Sixteen years, I think.
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And the meaning that biblical promises brought to me personally, that made me decide at that young age, that wherever I go, God takes me, too.
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I want to come alongside children, young people, and make them know the same Jesus and His Word.
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So, you may not know, but I finished as a chemical engineer, and that is what led me to working 20 years with Scripture Union, and just coming alongside young people before Lausanne.
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So, a little bit of my story there.
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Thank you for sharing that.
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You know, it's It's been fascinating for me to hear the stories of those sitting at the table and realizing that for most of the adults who are passionate about Jesus, who have dedicated their lives for mission, that they gave their lives to Christ in those early formative years.
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It's, those years between 11 and 19, where they hear the gospel, maybe some of the university years, where they hear the gospel and their lives are transformed.
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So, so you, begin this journey with Youthful Christ.
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It's a scripture union.
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You worked with them for 20 years.
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And then you then came on into Lausanne.
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Can you explain that process of being involved in Lausanne? Senior leaders need to keep looking around.
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Not only for leaders in kind of emerged leaders in significant places, but also imagined leaders.
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My story into Lausanne is also one of pure grace.
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It was in 2005 when Doug Bettsall visited Ghana.
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And I think at that time he was traveling the world looking for who would be younger leaders that Lausanne could invite into the second Younger Leaders Gathering in Kuala Lumpur, um, in 2006.
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And Doug Betzel was at the 87th Younger Leaders Gathering and was there together with my CEO, Jude Hammer, you know.
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So, the two.
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We're in that gathering.
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So as he visited Ghana, he visited his friend who was now the CEO of Scripture Union.
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Tudhama kindly invited me to be in that meeting.
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Doug says that it was from that meeting that he decided that this young man must be.
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I didn't know that.
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So when we came to 2006 YLG, he says he was keeping eyes on me.
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I didn't know that, not at all.
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So, I mean, the 2006 Younger Leaders Gathering, maybe we'll speak a little bit more about that, but just blows my heart and just opens my eye to God's mission in a completely different way, and we come back.
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I thought, well, that was a good experience.
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We had a follow up 2008 in Abuja.
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Younger leaders need to make a point to be available to serve.
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2009.
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The Ghana Selection Committee to the 2010 Congress in Cape Town was meeting the scripture union office.
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I was not part of the committee.
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It was a committee of senior leaders, chaired by the General Secretary of the Bible Society of Ghana at that time, Reverend Kofi Owusu.
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And one day they came to meet all of them kind of senior leaders, and I was working in my office, I bumped into the conference room accidentally, pulling my head back, they are meeting, and he says, Hey Nana, come.
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And in she, Nana, you hear wah.
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Meaning we need you.
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We don't have a secretary.
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Come take the notes.
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So I joined them.
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Uh, I take the notes for the first day.
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Uh, listening to some of the conversations quietly.
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And I thought that was the end.
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Reverend Kofi Owusu says, I told you we don't have a secretary.
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You are not part of the committee.
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And so I kind of go.
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One task after another, helping, taking notes.
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They kind of put me in charge of organizing the entire trip.
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Arranging flights, sending reports to the Africa Regional, I mean, team, and all that kind of thing.
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My biggest surprise was the final day.
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Now, think of it, they were selecting only two people.
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14 leaders from Ghana for 2010.
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Church heads, heads of churches, seminary presidents, key people in marketplace leadership.
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I mean, think of it.
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At that time, I think Ghana was about 28 million or so.
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Today we are 30.
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Very tight list.
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Changed over again and again.
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The final day, Jason, the chairman of the committee.
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And I say this in great appreciation.
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I kind of recorded a video for him when I got here to this Congress.
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He said to the committee, we have finished our work.
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Our list is done.
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But I've done this before.
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I'm growing old.
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I think I want to give my seat to Nanaia.
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Wow.
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It was teary.
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That's how I came to Cape Town.
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And it gave me such a huge blessing.
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Getting to know heads of churches, Christian leaders in Ghana.
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I mean, the humility.
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I, oh, mine, mine, mine, mine.
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Those who were selected.
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That's a team that really blessed me.
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One of them is Apostle Pukunyina, who now serves on the board.
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2011 is where I am coming to.
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I received an email.
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It came from Lindsay Brown.
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It was addressed to me, but I thought it was a mistake.
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Nana, Gideon Paramalam is handing over.
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At that time, we called him, we call them the International Deputy Directors now.
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Regional Director.
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Ralph Epsah is handing over.
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And the African leaders have recommended you and we are inviting you into the role of international deputy director.
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Only God knows the kind of chills, fear, and anxiety that comes to younger leaders when you are called to step into roles like that.
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I reached out to Femi Diodor Baldez.
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I was on the floor in my bedroom.
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Just broken.
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In fact, my wife came so disturbed at a point, I think by the ten days, said, Joy, this, this is a great invitation, but let me write to Lindsey Brown, and let me let him know that we are grateful, but this might not help you.
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What I didn't know is that these Lausanne leaders were going to be the greatest gifts.
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It was far later that I discovered that the 2005 story.
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Wendell Bettsall was threading through all of that because at the Congress in 2010, he chose six younger leaders, one of them to be his guest every day from different continents.
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And I think that I had the invitation from him, which again I thought was a mistake, to spend Tuesday with him.
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It was, I call it, my day of leadership transformation.
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Just a day with a Lausanne executive chair, I didn't see position, I didn't see power, just friendship.
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At the end of the day, he said, Nana, this friendship is for a long time.
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I didn't realize that all those were pathways of observation.
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And then in 2016, when the third Young Leaders Gathering was coming up, Michael O invites me to say, Nana, this is the vision.
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This is not only a gathering.
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There is a 10 year journey.
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Will you come lead that? My journey in Lausanne has been one of grace and surprises.
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You know, so, if there is a plan to read God Knew, but I say to people, for me, personally, it's just become follow.
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Me, yeah, and I've been surprised all through.
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I'm grateful to Michael for his trust and this being such a journey.
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I'd love to hear from you, you know, as I, as I reflect on your story, I can see lessons that can be learned by the younger leaders and I can see lessons that can be learned by the older leaders just in your story.
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What advice would you give to the younger leaders that perhaps have attended this gathering or are listening in on this conversation? That's I think lessons of faithfulness come to mind as I hear your story.
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But as you reflect on your own life, what lessons from your own experience could you share with some of those younger leaders listening in? If there are leaders who are born and kind of stand out as leaders, probably, and know within themselves that they are leaders.
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Probably Jason, I would not be one of them.
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I have come in my own journey to believe in scripture also experientially.
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When God says, I knew you before you were formed in your mother.
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All through my journey, I have had to surrender by faith.
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And the journey of faithfulness has been a response to faith in the promises.
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Now, even here at this Congress, I tell people, I have become deeply convinced that if God could shape a leadership heart in me, no younger leader is useless.
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That's why, and I'll speak a little bit about this, I mean, on the Lausanne leadership kind of generations graphic that we're looking at now.
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We begin with potential.
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I think that God's image in everyone is a potential seed, if nurtured well, for his purpose and for leadership.
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I would say to every younger leader who is listening here, God does not waste.
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Anything here is doing in your life.
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Now I'm 53.
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So I am in a space where I'm now reflecting over life.
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When I was at the university, I was invited to serve.
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I give my life to Christ.
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As a young person in high school, you remember that with that kind of commitment, Bobby Clinton will speak about sovereign foundations.
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I didn't know what.
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All of that was leading to at a university, I am invited to serve as a president of the, we called it a child evangelism wing, but it was actually the children ministry of the IF group on our campus.
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In Ghana we call ifes, you know? Yeah.
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I'm invited to serve as president of that.
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I get into all kinds of helping to reach children of university student, oh sorry, university faculty members from university campuses.
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I finish that.
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It's my mathematics professor.
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who recommended me to come serve as a staff of Scripture Union.
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So, see, I start with children, and then after university, from engineering to a full time parachurch mission staff.
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You're now working among high school less, you know, all across the country.
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I, you know.
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I got into a national ministry leadership position with the Scripture Union, and I do that for 20 years.
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Michael now invites me to come help pioneer YLGEN.
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My mind is younger leaders.
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You get into Lausanne, younger leaders kind of like 25 to 35, and you come to meet.
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People like Jason, who are called Younger Leaders, and are serving in all kinds of significant roles of influences.
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I think two years ago when we did a survey of the Younger Leaders in Lausanne, 52 percent of them were leading either at national executive, regional, continental level executive, global level executive.
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So, I just come to realize that the Younger Leaders that Lausanne is now speaking about, and I didn't even realize it, I mean in my own time, influences already.
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in their own place.
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So I go from children to young people, younger leaders.
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It's only recently that it came clearly to me that God was shipping a heart of generations in my life that I was not well, you know.
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And so faithfully following Jesus, I will make this promise.
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Follow me, I will, I think that that's how I have come to know how Jesus calls into leadership.
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If we can keep faith and faithfulness, fruitfulness is a blessing from him.
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We don't, we don't work that out.
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So I think we've already unpacked it just from your story.
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I'm curious to hear how you would articulate this to someone who asks, you know, it's, we are a missions movement, and you imagine missions is all about going out, right, evangelizing, helping those in need, and we have hundreds if not thousands of expressions of that within our movement.
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Why Generations? Why is Generations so important to the Lausanne movement that there's a whole department dedicated and led by you? What would you say to them? I want to say thank you to Michael, Michael O, and his obedience to the Lord.
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Until recently, the Generations department is the newest of kind of the movement function sides, you know.
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The Regional structure came first, and then the issue network structure.
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And then, under Michael's leadership, Generations.
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When Michael invited me to serve in kind of pioneering it, the mission for the department had already been set.
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Connecting influences and ideas across generations.
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And the way Michael articulated it, it was kind of like, whether in the regions, whether across the issue networks, could we have all generations? Almost like a value set for everyone.
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I say to Michael that personally, his invitation gave me a gift of clarity.
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I had always known about investing in younger leaders.
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Which continues to be the strategic priority for me, for the department.
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But how do we even faithfully steward that? We're speaking a little about that in this congress.
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But I have been amazed Rather, generation to generation framing in God's big story.
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The meta narrative.
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One of the things that I'm speaking about tomorrow is, if you look at the Genesis account, he actually begins with the generations.
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Of the heavens and the earth.
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And then a narrative, ten generations, you know? You come to the center of the mission story and Matthew captures it beautifully.
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Matthew 1, 17, and he will talk about from Abraham to David.
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David to the exile.
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Exile in Babylon.
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Fourteen generations.
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Fourteen generations.
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Was God not keeping his generational calendar? Absolutely.
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And I I'm really grateful to God for how Lausanne, I mean, keeps faith to mission strategy that comes out of biblical reflection, I mean, that's call to Lausanne, you know.
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And it's become very clear to me, as we emphasize.
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The Great Commission, particularly from the Matthew account, which is kind of much more made popular for that, although it goes through all the Gospels.
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See, and you would receive when the Holy Spirit comes on you.
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This is Acts.
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It is the same in Matthew.
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All authority.
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in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
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Therefore, go.
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So it's just that same emphasis from his authority, his power.
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As you go, make disciples of all nations.
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And so we reflect on that and the dynamic movement of enriched people groups, disciples of all nations, teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you, right? Baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
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There's plenty, and surely, I am with, always, till the very end of the age.
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See, the Great Commission has that inclusio.
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To the ends of the earth.
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Globally, geographically, ethnic to ethnic.
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That closure, till the end of the age, is a generational commission.
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Until we keep the two in balance.
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I quote Michaela, when Michaela, I mean, had me share on this passionately, Michaela Breitwaite.
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Michaela said, Wow, Nana.
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So there can be reached people, groups today, who if we don't give generational intentionality, too, will become unreached.
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And so, as we kind of put all of this together, generations is not just a fancy word.
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Word that is coming out of, I mean, any kind of Millennial or Gen Zed research.
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Strong biblical reflection.
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We'll see that a meta narrative.
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God actually promised both a son and a lamb to Abraham.
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It's consistent.
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And as you were just sharing about Michaela's comments of generations who might lose Christ, you know, there's, there's so many reflections that I have of that.
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The one is Christianity Day has just released an article this week here while we're at the fourth Lausanne Congress about Korea and the fact that the State of the Great Commission report highlights Korea, South Korea is the second largest mission sending country in the world.
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But as we begin to reflect on.
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And this is, was written in the article as we begin to reflect on Korea's next generation.
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It's plateauing in terms of the faith and they're struggling to reach the next generation for Christ.
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And so they're sending missionaries all over the world, but.
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Those missionaries are aging, and there's not necessarily a next generation that's going to replace them.
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And it's very much connected to what you're saying in the sense of that we all, every single one of us, face this in our own nations.
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We can, as a generation, be passionate about Jesus, but if we're not passing that faith down to our children and to their friends and to the younger communities, we're actually missing out on the call of God to be faithful where we are.
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And think, think about it, Jason, as we Focus on the unreached, right? Think about the other side of it, Rolf.
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The so called reached who are living.
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And in some part of the Global North, I mean, 62%.
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Rolf, those we brought to church as children are living before they are 18, you know.
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So, I mean, was it yesterday or something like that that I was sharing with the group? The greatest commandment.
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Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, with all your strength, you know.
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And sometimes we fail to realize that that, the context of the Deuteronomy passage, that Jesus quoted the greatest commandment from, was all about making sure that the next generation, yeah.
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So let's talk about YLGEN.
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I would love to hear, you know, I'm sure there's people listening in who, who don't know, you know, the generations department, don't know what YLGEN means or YLG means.
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And so could you take a moment just to explain how YLGEN works? We as a movement seek to help the next generation come to know Jesus and inspire the older generation to be involved.
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That's a big question.
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Um, Lausanne is a trusted convener in the global mission space and I mean, beginning 74 when you talk about Lausanne gatherings.
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People don't come because they are members of anything.
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They are inspired by the vision of mission that Lausanne brings.
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The credibility of leaders, you know.
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The trust which we need to steward so well.
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The focus on the gospel.
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Blessings on our foundational leaders.
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And the faithfulness through the generations doing this.
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So, congresses, gatherings.
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When Michael finished as the chair of the 2006 YLG, he said in his reflection, he was like, What do we do with this high intensive investing into younger leaders in one week and what next? And it struck him that there is something about younger leaders that is a little bit different.
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His question was, what if we continued to invest in these younger leaders who came for the gathering over a journey of 10 years? That was the vision that the board affair.
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And so we went from 2006 in Jakarta, the gathering in August, and then in November, the launch Of the 10 year journey, which we now call the generation.
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You know, so normally when I'm doing an illustration and Sarah Bruel is there or any other, I would say, What we now have is kind of a synthesis of the gathering and a journey.
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What was seeded in 2016 is what has now traveled eight years.
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And I'll speak a little bit about that into the future when we come to 2026.
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But the integration of the gathering and the journey.
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Into one experience is what we kind of looking at now.
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From the 2016 kind of gathering and then into a journey, we now have about 937 younger leaders signed up from about 140 countries from around the world.
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I mean, the journeys of friendship, the stories.
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I mean, look at this Congress, you know, specifically.
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The way we began YLJEN, when you're taking a 10 year journey with younger leaders who already are in influential places, you don't come prescribing what you're going to do.
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You come much more humbly, like we do in Lausanne, listing, you know, asking the questions.
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A lot of the YLJEN initiatives, have come from listening.
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A number of these younger leaders, we need mentors.
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And so, Lausanne makes a mentoring commitment through YLGEN and blessings on many mentors from across the world.
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We have mentors from over 50 countries who have been working with these younger leaders.
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Lausanne is, by God's grace, an excellent curator.
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In missionary sources.
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So the question was, how do we bring the best of missionary sources curated for young people? So that's where our missionary sources commitment came from.
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I mean, the webiness that you hear about, I mean, all that kind of thing came from there.
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It was the missionary sources thing that made us also ask about what are younger leaders.
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In influential places.
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I came from an engineering background, thinking about their own formation.
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The first time we asked that question, 87%.
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Particularly from the majority world said, if we had some kind of theological education to inform what we are now doing, that's what led to kind of our partnering with educational institutions, evangelical around the world.
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We've had a beautiful, beautiful meeting with, I mean, college presidents, university seminary presidents here.
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I want to really appreciate our educate partners, you know, and the number of people who have gone through that.
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We wanted younger leaders to be well integrated in their regions and across the networks.
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I mean, the issue, Catalyst Networks, and then also in their own kind of peer groups.
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That has multiplied.
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And resulted in kind of all the fruits of YLJ which we speak about today.
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Let me end my comment by saying, because I think you asked about that, Russ, we are coming to the end of that first quote.
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So now we Y Gen one, we are going to launch y Gen 2 1 20 26 to 2036 from YLG 20.
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Now, leaders like Jay Singh are asking, I am moving out of the younger leader category.
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Where do I belong? Well, good news for you is that not only are we looking forward to the gathering in 2026 and the 10 year journey that comes, now we're reflecting and thinking much more clearly on what our future holds.
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the journey of leadership, life leadership will look like.
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So 35 to 50 now becomes the bridge leaders category.
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So welcome to bridge leaders.
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It's good to be here.
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Thank you.
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I'll be sure to put this on the screen for those who are interested and in the show notes as well.
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So they can see this.
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Let's talk.
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About YLG 2026.
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I've been walking around the walls and one of the most common questions I've had is Is it happening? Where is it happening? How do I get involved? How do I sign up? Even some of the younger leaders who have put the studio together so that we can have this conversation, they said, there's a younger leaders generation? Like, how do I join that? You know, so let's talk to them, tell us all about it.
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I'm excited.
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This is the first I'm hearing about this.
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So we are being introduced to brand new information right in this moment.
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So please.
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I can tell you under God, and is Christ so, Tyrus, in his will, Jason, because of the intergenerational thinking, not only YLJ 2026, We are thinking about YLG 3036.
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Wow, okay.
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We are thinking about YLG 4046.
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To bring us closest to 2050, but for YLG 2026 hooray.
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I want to be a big shout to our Latin American brothers and sisters.
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The global church with its younger leaders are coming to you.
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The Lauzen leadership has affirmed that we host.
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The fourth Younger Leaders Gathering in Latin America.
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Our regional directors have done wonderfully leading us in the search.
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We've gone many places looking around.
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It seems good to the Holy Spirit and us that YLG 2026 is coming to Brazil.
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Sist.
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To 12th of December, 2026.
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So keep it in your calendars and more details will be coming.
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So we are very grateful to the Brazilian team yesterday.
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Some of the leadership met with us here.
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They are so excited.
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I want to say a big thank you to all.
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I mean, Latin American leaders, a Mexican leaders, a big shout.
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Thank you for all the, I mean, help in all this process.
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We trust there's going to be a mounting of the Lord with the younger leaders there.
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Okay, so I'm a younger leader.
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I've listened to this conversation because all I'm wanting is information about YLG 2026.
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Maybe they've even skipped.
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If you've skipped, come back.
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Go back and listen to what Nana has shared.
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It's been great.
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How can they get involved? How do you sign up? How's, what is the process going to look like in terms of being able to attend the Congress? Maybe you're even speaking to all the leaders.
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How can they get involved themselves as well? What is the process there at this Congress on Friday here? We're going to commission Michael Oh is going to pray over the younger leader team under the leadership of Justin Schell who is going to serve as the YLG director and Sabrina Who is going to be a deputy YLG director.
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They are going to lead into YLG year.
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But there is this, Younger leader team that is coming around them.
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They're going to be commissioned here.
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That's kind of the start and the launch of the official process.
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For all younger leaders who are here at this congress, there are three processes that you go through in signing up for Lausanne gatherings.
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Number one, there is nomination.
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Number two, there is application.
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Number three, selection.
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And then you get into it.
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If you are here at the Congress, all of you, you've already received nominations.
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You've gone through.
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So you will have to kind of follow up nominations with applications.
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And then you And then beyond this Congress, the full criteria with kind of the nomination process is going to be sent out to kind of the whole Lausanne database.
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Because of the carefulness of who we select, our encouragement is that when you are nominating, it's not just a younger leader you like.
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These are leaders you trust God is calling into some kind of influence in their generation.
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And we'll have a whole criteria for people to kind of respond.
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Anything else you would like to share about YLJ in 2026 or the Generations Department, things that you're excited about? There is a lot.
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One of the very cutting statements for me here at this Congress has come from Dr.
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Roland Ellis.
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He looked at younger leaders he was meeting.
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He said, my generation will not finish the Great Commission.
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We need you.
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When Lausanne speaks about young leaders.
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We are actually talking about the only way this happens is connecting across generations.
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Senior leaders will be so critical.
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Prayerful nominations for the selection.
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Younger leaders who are nominated, faithfully going through the application processes.
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But I want to say that this is actually all of us doing it.
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Every generation contributing its best.
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For the current YLJ ness who are now kind of transitioning to bridge leaders, We are inviting a number to come alongside us, mentors, you know, to make a 10 year commitment.
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Invest in where you have been investing into.
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In the Generations department now, we want to see that Generations has a strong biblical calling.
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That we must make a missional commitment to.
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We want to see true friendship, mutuality come across Generations.
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In contributing to the collaborative action.
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Mission that this Congress is all about.
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I say to Michael, Lausanne leadership, the board, every time, if we are thinking about 2050, then sustainability.
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But the whole process is important.
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Jason, that sustainability would require a very intentional focusing on our intergenerational strategy.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, as I reflect on part of our conversation, you mentioned Matthew 28 of making disciples.
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I mean, this whole process is a disciple making process.
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It's, it's not just a leadership acceleration.
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It's a.
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You're helping people grow in their walk with Jesus.
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You're helping them grow into their calling.
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And it's not just a once a 10 year meeting, it's a journey for a decade that then seems to now be progressing into another decade, emulate that same process for, the next generation.
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And so this is for me, one of the most exciting initiatives.
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For the Lausanne movement.
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I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say that, but, uh, I do.
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I say it from the depth of my heart.
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I'm, I'm so grateful that as a member and as a part of the movement, I can say that we care for the next generation and we're, there's an intentionality in discipling the next generation of a global mission.
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Nana-Yaw, it's been a pleasure to have you on the podcast.
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I know that we could sit for hours and potentially unpack some of your thoughts and ideas.
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If there was one thing that you would leave with our podcast audience, what would it be? Come follow me, Jesus said, and I will make you fishers of man, personally and for the movement and for everyone.
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I hope that we will continue faithfully following Jesus.
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I asked a younger leader in a meeting, when you are 70 years, what would you want to be said about you? The answer has never left me.
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He said, I wanna be faithful and fruitful.
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I knew that what we have been trying to get asked a call of why general was there when it's all ended, I hope that we will meet.
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And He would say to us, Faithful servants, that's all.
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Thank you for your time.
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Would you mind closing us off in prayer and just praying for those listening in? Lord Jesus, you who called us to come follow you.
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I pray that as the world goes through its changing times, I pray, Father Lord, as gross darkness seems to be rolling across the skies.
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You will strengthen your global church.
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You will strengthen each of us to know you are the one who called us to come follow you.
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May your glory rise on faithful obedience to follow you.
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I want to thank you, oh God, for younger leaders around the church, senior leaders making commitments to faithfully work with these younger leaders.
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May we know that when we are faithful, you will bless us with fruitfulness.
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I want to really thank you, oh God, for Jason and the team here.
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Younger leaders giving of their best to your service.
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May we please you.
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As you said of Christ, in him we live and for his glory we serve.
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In Jesus name.
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Up there.
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Thank you, Jason.
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But I hope that you enjoyed this episode of the Lausanne Movement Podcast.
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If you liked this episode, why don't you take a moment to give us a rating and review? And give us a shout out on social media.
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next week, we'll be back with another episode that we hope will inspire you to accelerate global mission within your own space.
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Until next week.