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November 25, 2025 118 mins

In this conversation, the speakers explore the evolution of activism, discussing how mass mobilization has become more normalized and accessible. They delve into the performative aspects of protests, emphasizing the importance of community building and networking among activists. The discussion also touches on the ethics of compensation in activism, the challenges of navigating success within leftist spaces, and the need for inclusivity in activism. Ultimately, they advocate for a more supportive and understanding approach to activism that encourages participation and recognizes the value of all contributions.

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