MACABRE Matrimony - Till Death Do Us Part: Haunted Dresses, Deadly Honeymoons , and Love at First Fright

Kick off Spooky Season with a trip down the aisle of the afterlife!

This episode of Macabre explores haunted wedding venues, ghostly gowns that move on their own, honeymoons with a deadly twist, and chilling love stories from beyond the grave. We’ll also uncover eerie marital traditions from cultures around the world — some that celebrate the living, and others that honor the dead.

By the end, you’ll be asking yourself: Was that mannequin in the bridal shop window just plastic… or something disturbingly human?

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Episode Transcript

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I can't wait to share that with you.
Oh man, but. This is our first official
spooky season episode. It is then.
OK. I'm so excited.
And we're recording on the 13th.It's not Friday the 13th, but
it's the 13th, so it still counts.
Heck yeah, it does. And it's funny because, well, I

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don't know if we want to really share that, but maybe we could
as a teaser. But the one episode coming out
on October the 13th, he's away friend.
That's our listener tale episodethat's coming out on October the
13th, so. Yeah, stay tuned for that.
Those are I love those episodes.I love the involvement of our

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listeners. We've been getting some good
stories sentence, so it's a great way to incorporate our
listeners into the show. We love you guys.
So stay tuned for that. Yeah, Oh my gosh, we're so
excited. We try to do something a little
different every year. I feel like we try to really
lean into spooky paranormal typethings for spooky season because

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why the fuck not? Yeah, I mean, it's MC Cobb, but
man, I'm so excited. Yeah, today's episode.
I don't know. Do we want to tell them the
itinerary for spooky season? Do we want to tell them our?
Episode No. Just let it be a surprise.
Well, they know they're getting the, I mean, we do a listener
tale every season for this time of year, but today you're going

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to be like, oh, how does this fit in?
But we decided that it was goingto be kind of a funny topic.
And you know, when this gets released, because we're batch
recording right now. I know that a lot of listeners
that have been hanging out with us for a while, they kind of
know what's coming up. But Hallie and I both have some

(01:52):
pretty huge life changes happening at the moment.
So we are, we're gonna do this, but it's for everybody on
Patreon right now. If you can see the baggage under
my eyes, man, I could fly first class with these bags under
these eyes. So we're we're doing the thing,

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you know, but today I can't wait.
But OK, before I get too ahead of myself, hey everybody,
welcome to Macabre, a dark history podcast.
I'm Blair, I'm Hallie, and we'reso freaking happy that you came
to hang out with us today. And of course, as always, thank
you for choosing Macabre as yourentertainment of the hour.

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If you're new here because we see you, welcome.
We're so happy you found us and we're happy that you're here
hanging with us. And we hope you enjoy because
you're in for a wild ride for spooky season.
And remember, as always, this show is not for the faint of
heart and negative energy is notallowed.

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So grab your spooky squeegee because it's time for some
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You could be a looky loo, a freaky friend, deadly darling
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a few new members this month. So thank you so much to autumn.
Thank you autumn. Autumn, what a beautiful name.
Perfect time of year, my favorite time of year, who is a

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new freaky friend and shout out to Melanie who also joined our
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We would be happy to hear what you've got.
Welcome Autumn and Melanie for being freaky friends.
We love you guys. Yeah, and you can also join us
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terrific people like yourself. It's really fun over there.
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People. Oh my gosh, get your weirdest

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yadda, they are down below in the show notes.
And guess what? It is spooky season, baby.
All month we are gonna give you the spooky goodness.
Our regular, our regularly scheduled broadcrest program
will be continued in November, but it's a celebration this
month and we party hearty duringspooky season.

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So October will be full of paranormal goodies, just so you
know. And this week we are kicking it
off with something a little special.
It's a nice day for a macabre wedding, isn't it, Hallie?
This. Comes Doesn't this come out the
week of your wedding? It.
Does Perfect Maggie. So when you're thinking about

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this episode, listening to this episode, just remember that
Blair tying those knots, readingthose nptials, it's pretty
crazy. I can't believe he put the ringy
dingy on the fingy, but he did. Poor guy.
No, just kidding. Here are my hype notes because
I'm so excited to share some of this stuff with you.

(07:28):
It's wild. All right, we are kicking it off
with tales of macabre matrimony this spooky season, haunted
venues, moving dresses, deadly honeymoons, Love at first
fright, and other cultural marital traditions with the
deceased. At the end of this episode,

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you'll be asking yourself, was the mannequin in the bridal shop
window made of plastic or flesh?And because of the nature of
these stories, we're going to play a little game of fact or
fiction at the very end. A.
Little fun. I love stupid games.
Right. Oh, it's so fun.

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And don't worry, there are macabre morsels at the end of
this too. We'll get there.
But why don't we start talking about a wedding dress?
Particularly Anna Baker's wedding dress.
Does this sound familiar? Not at all.
All right. I'm so excited for these then.
So we can't really talk about Anna Baker without talking about

(08:35):
the Baker Mansion. It's located in Altoona, PA.
It's now a historical building under the care of Blair County
Historical Society. I didn't do that on purpose.
OK, It is Blair without AE, justwhatever.
But in all's. But originally, it was actually
the home of an iron master namedElias Baker and his family.

(08:57):
He and his wife Hetty had two sons when they moved in and oh,
it wasn't long before they welcomed another child into the
world. It's that new home that A.
New, old smell. Got to break it in somehow.
You. Know yeah, got to fix that.
Yeah, this is when their first daughter, Anna, was born.

(09:19):
No, they did have another daughter later, I think her name
was Marguerite, but unfortunately she did pass away
at the age of 2 from diphtheria.I don't know.
About diphtheria before of the times.
Sad. It is sad and later Mr. Baker
would come into financial ruin in his business and it all

(09:43):
stemmed together. It was one of those when it
rains, it pours unfortunate times in their lives.
He did manage to finish the construction of this mansion,
regardless of the financial turmoil that they were going
through. And he was able to enjoy the
house about 15 years before his death being fully finished.

(10:05):
Yeah, they had some pretty roughtimes.
So he passed away in 1864 and his wife Hedy died in 1900.
But in 1851, kind of stemming back to more misfortunes, their
son David died in a Steamboat accident when he was only 28.

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And he had just started a new family as well.
And things were just getting more grim from there.
Things were really falling apartafter David's death.
And just a few years after her brother's passing, Anna went to
visit her father at the Elgie Furnace, which he owned.

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And that's when she met someone,someone pretty handsome.
He was a steel worker, and she was 18 at the time, so
considered an adult and doesn't mean anything for that time.
She couldn't really pick kind ofwho she wanted to marry.
It was still like that as a business transaction back then.

(11:09):
But she did fall head over heelsfor the steam worker, which was
well below what her father wouldhave wanted for her.
They started developing a secretrelationship.
Things were like a little bit ofscandal, but they went on this
for two years. Oh, wow.
OK, yeah, that's a long time to be able to keep that sort of a

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secret. Exactly.
Especially for the time, you gotto think about what that took.
Yeah, Mr. Steamy, Steel Worker. He's, he's got it going on.
So they were together for a while.
And after two years, Mr. Steamy decides that he's going to pop
the question. And she was ecstatic.

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She was planning the wedding behind her dad's back.
He still didn't know about it. She went and bought a wedding
dress and it was gorgeous. She loved it to pieces.
And as soon as they basically finished making all of their
plans, they were going to just flee the state of New York.

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Like they were going to avoid all of that.
They were going to get hitched and run away so that Mister
Baker couldn't find out. And when he did, way too late.
But before they could truly go through with it, and one of the
steel workers told Elias about his daughter's plans because he
knew the other steel worker verywell and he had overheard some

(12:35):
things being said. What the hell?
Why you got to be like that Just.
Steamy cock Block. Yeah, he was livid when he found
out he fired Mr. Steamy and he was throwing death threats at
him if he ever even came back toAltoona.

(12:56):
Like he forced him out of the town.
Yeah, that bad. And Elias came back home and
immediately found his daughter and told her that she would
never speak to the ex employee ever again.
He went through her room and just stripped it of everything.
He burned all of the keepsakes and letters that they had
between each other like there was nothing left except the

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wedding dress, which she had stored in a trunk, hidden away
enough. After the incident, Anna went
into a really deep depression. She locked herself in her room.
She was refusing to eat and speak to anybody.
It was really bad, and she was doing this for basically the

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rest of her life. When her father did pass away
years later, she saw this as herchance to try to find her
fiance, and it was way too late.By the time she did actually
find Mr. Steamy, he had already married and already had a
family. Oh man, and this was like the

(14:05):
last straw for her. She went back home, she locked
herself in her room and her remaining family like never saw
her. She would only come out of her
room if they were all gone. And there's reports of the staff
seeing her in the hallways with her dress dancing around sobs.

(14:27):
Just really heartbreaking. The last of the Baker family
passed away in 19 O 7, and Anna would live for another seven
years until she also passed awayin 1914.
After the Baker mansion was converted into a museum, Anna's
dress was encased in a glass display in her old bedroom.

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While many say that the entire family haunts the mansion now,
many reports say that you can still hear sobbing coming from
Anna's room or seeing her face through the 3rd floor window.
Most. Yeah, creepy, but also.
I mean neither one of those situations is good.
I mean you feel especially oh man, I know hearing something

(15:14):
crying that isn't supposed to bethere really bad.
Also heartbreaking, but seeing someone's face at the window
that's not supposed to be there.I think I would spoop
immediately spoop my pants. Same immediate spoop.
Oh, yeah, No, thank you. Yeah.

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And there's other paranormal happenings within certain rooms.
There's a couple of other stories about other people in
the house, but of course, we're keeping it on FOCUS on Anna
right now. A lot of the paranormal activity
seems to be focused around her wedding dress.
Makes sense, right? Some visitors claim that they

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see the glass of the dress display move.
Some have said that they've seenthe dress itself move behind the
case, like somebody's trying to pull at it or something, or even
see the dress out of the case and floating around the room.
So fact or fiction? We will find out later.

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Now we have to go to La Casa de Pasquala for our mannequin
story. So now we have to go to La Casa
de Pasquala for our mannequin story.

(16:40):
So did you hear that? That was under the desk.
Did something just fall? Yeah.
You want to take a look? Oh no.
We're going to leave it alone for now.
But I did not move, so I don't know why that happened.
Negative energy is not allowed at all, remember?

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OK, We're going to talk about this story that takes place and
has been taking place for many years in Chihuahua, Mexico.
It is the story of Pasquala Esparza, who was the owner of a
bridal dress shop called La Popular La Casa de la Pascolita.
She has owned it for some time. I don't know if it's still

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within the family, but it still exists.
But she was the owner back in the 1920s.
And in 1930, her daughter was ready to get married.
And it was a very happy occasion.
Her mother strived for happy marriages for all sorts of
ladies coming in for their dress.
But now that it was her daughter's turn, she really

(17:47):
wanted to make sure that this was special for her and made all
of her dreams come true. But on the day of her daughter's
wedding, the bride was bitten bya Black Widow spider.
Yeah. And not long after this horrific
tragedy, a new mannequin was placed in the display window of
LA Populare, and the townspeoplesaid that she looked a little

(18:11):
familiar. She looked like Pasqualita, her
daughter, and rumors quickly spread that the new model in the
window was in fact her embalmed daughter.
Could you imagine? Oh my gosh, no, no.
The owner till her retirement denied these rumors.

(18:32):
But people talked. They said the timing was weird
and we'll talk about the detailsabout this mannequin that
really, people still believe shecould be real when viewed up
close. There's some very unsettling
details of the LA Pasqualita mannequin that sets her apart

(18:54):
from other store mannequins. Her hands are very realistic.
Her knuckles have creases. They have intricate palm lines
like a normal hand. She has varicose veins on her
legs and she's got really defined fingernails.
And it's if you see pictures of her hands up close, you're this

(19:18):
is very freaky. It's very almost, you could say
uncanny valley because she's so realistic, but there's something
off, like it's just off, yeah. Did the woman ever say, 'cause I
imagine you look at collectivelythe mannequins, This one in
particular looks very different.Did she ever back it up and say,

(19:40):
oh, this is where I got it? Or any of that?
There's no other information? No.
OK, that's weird. It is very weird, yeah, when you
see the pictures of her, you should look them up 'cause
they're they're pretty. So the other thing to note is
now that this mannequin is over 80 years old now, it's been in

(20:04):
the window since the 30s and it's always stayed in the window
since her debut on the on the front.
Only a select number of employees over the years have
been trusted to change her dress.
You saw the pictures, didn't you?
I saw your face. Yeah, what the fuck is up with

(20:25):
her hands? Yeah.
They they're like real fingernails.
Yes. Oh, that's disgusting.
Yes, and for the 30s, but we'll talk about that.
But oh man, the fact that they only trusted a certain amount of
workers for 80 years to change her.

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They don't move her out of the window when they go to change
her. They have a specific layer of
curtains that come around the whole display area while they
change her. And there is a worker, I don't
know if she's still there, but she gave a interview within the
last eight years or so that she said they have to change her

(21:07):
wardrobe twice a week. And every time they do it, she
said, her hands start sweating. Cuz she's like, there's, there's
just something not right about La Pasqualita.
It's very weird, she said. And the fact that why would the
legs have varicose veins? Yeah, I don't think that's a
feature that mannequin maker would add.

(21:31):
It's not something that women want to show off.
You know, it's not going to helpyou sell clothes, I don't think.
I mean, you know, it sucks. We don't want to necessarily
show that off if we have that. So why would you add that to a?
Mannequin. Yeah, exactly.
What's with the detail? Especially for them, It's just,

(21:54):
it's so real. It's so crazy, the one Co worker
that said that she gets really sweaty.
Her hands get really sweaty whenshe tries to change her.
She has gone on record to say that she does believe that she's
a real person. But yeah, they do it behind
clothes, clothes, curtains everysingle time.
And oh, gosh, yeah. Well, you saw the pictures of

(22:16):
her. Now it's, you know, there's
different superstitions about her as well.
A lot of people say that she watches people come into the
shop, which I mean, if she is a real embalmed body, those eyes
obviously are going to be fake. Her eyes do have some depth and
detail to them, but they're definitely fake eyes.

(22:39):
You can tell that. But many who visit the shop say
that when she watches them come in, it's not necessarily a
really creepy feeling. It's just you feel like you're
being watched. There's a superstition also that
if a bride comes in to purchase her dress, the if she purchases
the dress that's on the mannequin, the day that the

(23:01):
bride walks in, it's said that she's actually in for amazing
luck for her wedding day and a very good marital future.
Multiple brides have come forward to say that, which is
interesting. Seems.
That seems a little bit like a marketing tactic.
It does me. It does.
So I don't know about that. Keep that in mind for later.

(23:23):
I feel like they're using that also to their advantage.
But, you know, interesting, you know, But even today, the store
owner and employees still take very huge precautions when
changing La Pasqualita. Now, whether that's because
she's a major business asset that sets them apart from
literally any other bridal shop in the world or if there's

(23:46):
something else going on, that remains a mystery.
So does that mean that she's a real body?
We'll see about that. Our next story takes us on a
deadly honeymoon to Old FaithfulInn in Yellowstone National
Park. This inn is over 120 years old.

(24:09):
It still stands. You can still go and visit and
stay the night. It does look pretty cool in
there, so I highly recommend it.I kind of want to put that on my
bucket list. Also, if you've never been to
Yellowstone National Park, highly recommend it.
It's really beautiful out there.And don't even get me started
about the time I got stuck in a bathroom because of a roaming

(24:30):
Buffalo. We'll save that for Patreon,
yeah. Exactly when old faithful Inn
opened their doors for the very first time for the very first
guests, it was on June 1st of 19O 4, and it's a historical
symbol that you can still check out the grounds today with a
couple of interesting takes for what you can see from the old

(24:52):
ages and what they've kept. It's a really cool time capsule,
but you can also witness some ofthe cop things over there.
That's where our story comes in.We got to go back to 1915 for
this bad boy, but the story goesthat a young woman from New York
married a male servant against her father's wishes.

(25:13):
There seems to be a theme here. Seems like that's how it always
goes. Eventually he gave in on the
condition that he would give onesmaller lump sum for a type of
dowry situation and then they had get the F out of New York
and never show their faces againkind of deal.

(25:33):
They were OK with this and they decided that they were going to
head out West for their honeymoon and they ended up at
Yellowstone National Park where they reserved room 127 at the
Old Faithful Inn. Now on their journey W the groom
began to show his true colors. He was a completely different

(25:53):
person. He started getting more
agitated. He started drinking very
heavily, gambling. Eventually by the time they
ended up at the Old Faithful Inn, he had gambled away all of
the money that her father had given them.
Well, she didn't know what to doat this point and he would go

(26:13):
out and leave her in the room and she knew exactly what he was
doing. He was just going to drink and
gamble more of what they didn't have.
Which led to arguments and knockout drag out fights that
the staff witnessed and heard coming from their room.
And some guests were kind of upset about it.

(26:34):
Really know what to do. They knew that they were on
their honeymoon. Well after a little while things
got more intense and one day some of the staff saw the
husband storm out of the hotel and he never came back which
good riddance but unfortunately they felt really bad for the

(26:59):
bride because they were seeing what he was doing and this is
not her fault this is just a mess.
So he wanted to give her some time by herself and let her have
the room and deal with emotions and everything.
Well, after a few days, nobody had seen her leave the room.
People stopped hearing things coming from the room.

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So the staff decided that they were going to check on her and
nobody answered when they knocked.
So they forced the door open andwhen they came in, they didn't
see anybody in the room. So they went off to the water
closet in the bathroom area and they found her in the tub

(27:41):
covered in blood and her head was missing.
Wait, that's not the direction Ithought this was going to go.
Yeah, it escalated quickly, yeah.
She wasn't able to do that herself, so Nope.
OK, they were trying to find herhead, obviously, because it
wasn't in the room. Well, after a couple more days,

(28:05):
guests started reporting smells coming from a certain area on
the grounds of inn. And yeah, that's where they
found her head. So not long after that, people
started reporting, hearing and seeing weird things coming from
that room and also around the inn.
And the big thing that people were reporting was seeing a

(28:26):
woman dressed in white slowly descending the stairs with her
head tucked under her arm. And a lot of people were
unsettled by this because it looked very real.
She didn't look a full you wouldexpect an apparition.
She looked like a solid being. So it was pretty disturbing for

(28:49):
guess. But is the story true?
We'll have to see about that, ifyou think what we have talked
about has been kind of weird andcrazy.
Oh, just wait. I called this one.
You don't need a divorce. You need an exorcism.
Oh, I like it. Yeah, the Brocata story.
So we have to go to Oxfordshire,England for this one.

(29:13):
There was a woman that I can't wait to get into this one.
One night, on a dark and stormy night, you might say, she was
laying in bed when suddenly a ghost burst through her bedroom
door. OK, let this sink in.
The ghost took hold of her and she felt a tingling sensation go

(29:35):
through her body from head to doe.
Some were allegedly very pleasant indeed.
She was both terrified and intrigued.
I'd be more terrified. She tried to reach behind her to
turn her bedside lamp on and a force through her arm back to
her body side. Then it felt somebody was

(29:59):
breathing on her neck. Very hot breath.
And really, really close to her ear she heard a voice whisper.
I love you. Yeah.
Yeah, I know. And then before it abruptly
vanished, tingles and all, it was just it was gone.
But she might have been in love.Disappointed affection,

(30:22):
disappointed infection, affection, disappointed
affection committed, committed. After that night, she started
experiencing more things with this said entity.
She was definitely feeling a ghostly presence.
And this evolved into seeing glimpses of said presence.
Sound familiar? Sounds like somebody might be

(30:44):
possessed. Yeah, I mean, it's that incubus
situation, right? That's what I'm picking up.
Yep, I'm feeling that too. And after a while she claimed
that she knew this entity and she claimed that it was a
Victorian soldier named Eduardo.She was getting deets on this
guy and she described him as being, quote, devilishly

(31:08):
handsome. Yes apparently he had shoulder
length dark messy hair and pretty pretty handsome.
So they soon develop a relationship.
Now she's she's in for this and the highs were high and the lows
were so very low and Eduardo he started growing more violent and

(31:33):
controlling and his actions wereoutward and things were
happening around her and her home.
Well, I don't know why, but in on Halloween of 20/22 she
married Eduardo. She found some.
Well, this is recent. Yes, it's very.
Recent did not pick up on that. Oh, yes.

(31:55):
Oh. Yes, I thought this was like
1800s. Oh no.
In the last three years. No, and I can't wait to get, you
know, when we get to the factor fiction portion when I tell you
the conclusion it's going to rock your world.
But OK, She yeah, she married him in a in a church and she did
find someone that would do that for her, quote UN quote legally.

(32:19):
So yes. After the wedding it took a
darker turn though, and she had said that she felt like she was
truly madly, deeply being possessed by Eduardo.
The marriage only lasted 2 years.
They totally. Only yeah, two years, man, like
2 years. I mean, that's that's more than

(32:41):
most celebrities, I think. Yeah, exactly.
Well, we'll get to that, too. Speaking of celebrities.
Oh, just wait. So they divorced in October last
year. Fitting.
Uh huh. She had two reasons for this
divorce. 1 He was being extremely, and more increasingly

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so, a threatening force in her life.
Well, I mean, and #2 he was allegedly having an affair with
Marilyn Monroe. Oh.
Man. Is the story true?
Oh, we're gonna, we're gonna talk about that.
But before we get there, it wouldn't be true macabre fashion

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without going around the world and giving a little historical
background on some things. So before we get into fact or
fiction time, we're gonna talk about the concept of you bury
the dead, and sometimes you can marry them too.
All right, so let's get into thelast segment.

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Is marrying the dead a thing? Why don't?
We look sounds like yes. Yes, yes, and multiple cultures
around the world do it, believe it or not.
I'll read bits from an article that I saw from
americanmarriageministries.org and they kind of break it down
in good detail. I won't read the entirety of the

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article, just what we need to know about these three different
cultures. And we're first going to go to
China. So, the article reads, Marrying
the dead has a long history in China, and the arrangements can
vary from practical to paranormal.
These ceremonies are similar to those between the living,

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including gifts, decorations, and a wedding officiant,
normally a shaman in those cases.
While ghost marriages are less common in China than they once
were, they still do exist, and there's a few stories of modern
ceremonies that are definitely involving corpse theft.
And this doesn't feel. Consensual to me.

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No, it's not. I feel like this is a huge
violation. This is actually a topic, I
think I was mentioning it to youa while ago when I started
writing this, that the concept of ghost marriages in China
deserves its own episode. That's how deep this goes.
Between the culture and the truecrime aspect that is still going

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on today with this is crazy. You've heard of human
trafficking. There's also corpse trafficking.
But we won't necessarily get into most of that here 'cause
it's it's deep. So that definitely deserves its
own episode. But going back to the ministries
article. So in some regions, daughters

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who remained unmarried for too long were considered an
embarrassment to their parents. Unmarried.
Oops, that's me. Well, I know in some cultures,
like, they'll tie you up and whip you, and it's like, how
does that help the situation? You know it's not your fault.
Oh I know, oh man, I know we talked about this before, but

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like if we lived at any other time I would so be dead by now
or in an asylum because I'd be like this weird spinster lady I.
Think most of us would be dead if we lived in the Victorian
era. Dude, yes, yes.
Or committed or. Committed call these these aging
brides. That's how they describe this

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aging. Probably meaning like 1620.
Three, yeah. We're frequently married off to
spirits of suitable men to sparethem the unbearable fate of
spinsterhood. My God, what a fate.
Sounds pretty fun. Just kidding.
Yeah, I mean, you can only see our faces if you're on Patreon,
but sounds sounds pretty good. Yeah, sorry, my fiance's What?

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No, Yeah, Grant. If we're both in serious
relationships in the long term now, so it's fine.
They love us. They they get it.
Yeah, They know how it is. Right.
This would also benefit the families for both sides, the
departed family and the living bride's family.
Sometimes it's also a living husband that is also very

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frequent incident of their this type of marriage over there as
well. If it's to both families from
this, it normally was due to lineage and wanting to make sure
that wealth and kind of wills were passed along in the right
direction and who would inherit what and all of that jazz.
So some of it is a little more transactional, but some of it's

(37:22):
'cause they had to stay committed to the ghost husband.
No dating, no anything. You were.
And this solitude because you also had to take care of your
husband 2 or wife depending on what side the marriage fell.
So in other areas, tradition insisted that an older brother

(37:42):
must marry before the younger brother, even if the older
brother happened to be dead. Which imagine how that went and
goes. Families would often marry these
deceased siblings off to suitable brides so that the
younger man could then go and start courting someone else and
go through with nuptials. Sometimes they're so strict that

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they, the younger sibling, can'teven go and date people until
this is done. But some Chinese ghost marriages
aren't only practical. Sometimes they're sweetly
supernatural, too. And when the spirit of the dead
man contacts a medium, someone who connects the spirit realm to
the living, they are normally known as the paranormal

(38:26):
matchmakers of situations. This asking the spirits if they
would like to be married to thisperson.
And normally, the medium is alsoin charge of arranging A
symbolic ceremony for the livingspouse.
Oh, yeah. It's very intricate and it goes
really deep. So the concept of the Chinese

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ghost marriage needs its own episode for sure.
Our next stop is surprisingly France.
Believe it or not, I was very shocked about this one.
So they call it post mortem matrimony, also called
posthumous marriage. It became a legal which I'm very
shocked at, but it became a legality in France in the 50s

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like 1950s believe it or not. I would have thought like 1800s
maybe. Yeah but following a terrible
accident that ended up killing afiance of a would be bride
before the couple could be wed. Super distraught, she confronted
the local government to ask for a very specific exception and

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request to still married her deceased fiance.
And the local government did agree and afterwards it became a
lawful concept like you can still do this.
The tradition of posthumous wedlock continued over the
years, with hundreds of morning partners petitioning the French
President for the right to marryby proxy.

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And from the wedding to take place, a couple must have had to
have been engaged before death so that this is where it is
different from China, and the president must forward the
request along. For approval by local officials
in the area where they would have gotten married, and then
the family of the deceased wouldhave to also agree to it and

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sign. Like, it's still kind of a
marital contract. Yeah, I kind of get it in this.
Instance, you know, because theywere already planning to get
married and then something tragic happens, you know, I, I
get. It in this case.
Yep, absolutely, I would agree. With that, it's, it makes more
sense for that, I feel like, butI mean, cultural differences as

(40:38):
well, you know? But yeah, I, I believe you can
still do this in France today. Wow.
Yeah. But now we're not just going to
a region, we're going to a religion.
Let's talk about the Mormons. Who knew?
The Church of Latter Day Saints views marriage as an eternal

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bond, meaning that when two people decide to marry, in the
eyes of the church, their souls are sealed together for And what
else? While joining with another in
the marriage is an essential requirement for getting into the
highest levels of the Celestial Kingdom of Heaven, says Mormons.
And if someone isn't sealed to another person, they can't get

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in. Which is like what?
And won't be able to spend eternity with their family in
heaven unless they are married. Mormons are big on the sealing
the deal. Unfortunately, not all couples
have the opportunity to have their union sealed in their
lifetime. That's where marriage for the
Dead comes in. As a solution, a younger

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generation performs posthumous ceilings for the parents and the
other ancestors, offering them aticket to blissful afterlife.
These posthumous ceilings don't just unite the couple
themselves, they also unite the entire family lines together.
Kind of similar with the Chinesetradition of this temple

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ceilings, marriages within the church itself bind generations
together too, connecting ancestral lines throughout the
centuries. And this is the only way that
somebody is allowed into their version of heaven is if
everybody's married and they arevery quick to act.
If that person wasn't able to marry at before their passing.

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Families are normally very desperate to make sure that they
get somebody connected with themas soon as possible.
Does this actually exist in these cultures?
Well, the wait is over. It's time that we dive into fact
or fiction, but let's go in the order.
The Anna Baker story. Do you think it's real or do you

(42:50):
think it's fiction? The story.
The whole story itself or portions of it?
I'll leave that up. Are you asking?
Yeah. I mean, I feel like on this one,
it could be it kind of fits intothat classic Lady in White trope
of stories that have happened all over the world, different

(43:11):
cultures. Different time.
Frames. So I'm gonna say fake.
So five points, yeah. Five Points for Hallie.
The mansion is real, you can go and visit it.
The Bakers we're a real family. The love story between Anna and
Mr. Steamy Steelworker is not Anna Baker never married.

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This is true, but that's not thereason why.
So As for the dress, is it real?The dress is real, but it's not
Anna Baker's dress. They don't actually know who it
belonged to. When they ended up taking it
over to make the place a museum,it was just in the house and
they decided it was really beautiful and it really is, so

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they put it on display. Nobody knows who originally
owned it. They did try to debunk the
paranormal activity that was happening in Anna's room with
the dress. There's multiple reasons why
things were happening with it. So the reason why the display
case seemed to move when people were in the room was because of

(44:16):
loose floorboards. Makes sense.
OK, it's an old place. Yeah, the dress did move by
itself behind the display case. But the reason for that was the
display case itself wasn't airtight.
There was a draft that was coming through and it was very
intense of a draft for a display, so much so that it

(44:38):
deteriorated the dress so much. And the dress was exposed to the
elements as well because of thatopen seal that in the early
2000s, they had to remove that dress from the display because
of the deterioration of the dress itself.
So that's a big fake right there.

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Now we have to talk about La Pasqualita.
Do you think it's fact or do youthink it's fiction?
This. One, I, I mean, obviously I
looked up the pictures, but it was a story that I had heard
before to some degree. So for me, I mean, it's fact.
The place exists. That mannequin exists.

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As far as some of the other stuff, I don't know the back
story per SE, but that mannequinis there.
It is real, yeah. I am also still on the fence
about it just seeing the pictures and knowing what the
employee see and their I mean that Lady that was interviewed

(45:41):
about changing her and stuff. I mean, she really, you can tell
she does believe that. For this story, I read an
analysis that was done by a mortician.
I'm still on the fence about it,but they went into detail about
the display of the mannequin andall the details of the model are

(46:02):
very uncanny. It's highly unlikely they
believe that this is an actual embalmed corpse.
And that's based on the age of the mannequin, the elements that
it's consistently exposed to in the display window constantly
for decades. And the amount of upkeep that
would be needed to make sure thebody would stay as well

(46:23):
preserved as it is is very highly improbable for La
Pascolita. Because the amount of money that
it would take to keep in a real embalmed person looking great
standing up in a window when she's getting 2 dress changes
done a week, They would have to be probably billionaires.

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Because there's other people around the world that are
embalmed that take actual full time teams of scientists to make
sure that that's their job to keep the bodies updated.
Sometimes they have to remove limbs and replace them.
That's just the body breaks down.

(47:06):
Yeah. Not only that.
But I don't know if people realize how heavy an embalmed
body is embalming a body. Adds.
So much weight. So for me, that part of it being
a real body for me wasn't a question.
My thinking is, you know, how you can have an idea or a
thought or a legend and it sort of becomes this supernatural

(47:32):
thing, almost like, you know, certain haunted dolls that are
out there and certain things like that.
I feel like this fits more into that kind of a category, that
it's kind of taken on this weirdlife of its own because people
have given it life, have given it energy and have.
I know I'm getting very woo woo,but yeah, I know.

(47:53):
But we hear about that. A lot, and something that I
didn't touch on during the story.
People claim that she moves on her own when she's not being
watched. Yeah.
And honestly, we've heard about that kind of stuff so many times
that that seems more probable tome, as odd as that sounds,

(48:13):
because of just the upkeep that would need to be done.
And not to mention, not only does it take a full team and so
much money and all that jazz, but the smell, Oh, it'd be
horrific. Yeah, nobody would even step a.
Foot into that shopping, right? It was a true one would want to
be shopping. For their dress at that place.

(48:33):
No. No way.
Yeah, but I'm. I will say the hands still get
me. I've never seen such detailed
hands on a mannequin, not even awax figure.
Yeah, it's pretty gross. It is.
And for that being. Something that was put in the
window in the 30s. I know that they went into way

(48:54):
more detail with things back then, but I don't.
I've worked retail. I've never seen hands like that
on a mannequin before. OK, yeah.
Moving on. The old faithful ends.
Ghost fact or fiction? I'm gonna go fact.
On this one, just to change it up a bit and because there were

(49:18):
witnesses, maybe. Yeah, well, here's where it
gets. Kind of weird.
It's actually fiction. OK, good.
Story that. For a good story.
Damn. I know.
I it got me for a hot second because I was like, what?
I would have thought that was real.
This story was actually made-up by the former owner of the inn.

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Well, there you go. Yep.
Yeah. Exactly it was.
Always been a major tourist attraction, but as things
developed and other things came into the Yellowstone National
Park for people to stay, for people to see, he wanted more
traction. So this story was born.
But here's where the spine tingly thing happens.

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People still report seeing a woman dressed in white slowly
descending the stairs with her head tucked under her arm
without them knowing the story at all.
OK, So what are they actually seeing?
Yeah, again. I don't know.
Can an idea create something that wasn't there before?

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I don't know right exactly. A lot of that this episode, it's
kind of odd. All right, drum roll.
The Eduardo story. Is it fact or fiction?
I'm going to say fact. So this is.
Actually, the story of a singer,an English singer-songwriter

(50:47):
named Ricardo. Have you heard of her?
No. So this story actually exists.
Ricardo is an actual person. She's a famous singer-songwriter
in England. And yes, she still claims that
she was married to Eduardo the ghost.
She has been interviewed on multiple TV shows for multiple

(51:09):
magazines, and she is very consistent with her story about
Eduardo. Well, let me read you a little
excerpt from the Irish Star thatwas published last October about
her divorce. The title of the article is
Woman who Married Ghost getting divorced after seeing him

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flirting with Marilyn Monroe's spirit at an LA hotel Brocarda,
age 40, a singer-songwriter saysshe got hitched to the
devilishly handsome spirit of a Victorian soldier named Eduardo,
whom she met when he showed up in her bedroom one day.
The union ended though, after allegations of his wandering

(51:51):
eye. It seems a divorce can't have
kept them apart. Recently, on what would have
been their 2nd anniversary, she supposedly spotted Eduardo
wooing the spirit of actress Marilyn Monroe at an LA hotel,
the vocalist said. Quote I was slightly miffed to
be honest, as Eduardo didn't even give me a second glance.

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I was wearing my favorite dress and felt on top of the world
until that ghost love Red rearedhis haggard, haunted face and
ruined my evening. I felt the compelling urge to
warn Marilyn about what an untamable nightmare Eduardo is.
And when things were getting downhill in their marriage in
2023, she sought a marriage counseling with a medium.

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She says Eduardo was not taking the counselling seriously and
Ricardo had enough. And she resorted to exorcism,
which she allegedly went throughwith.
She said in one interview that she knew something had to be
done. When he would make noises that
sounded like a baby shrieking. I'm sorry, but that's fucking

(52:58):
terrifying. Yeah.
No, no. Was this a?
Publicity stunt? Or was it real?
Either way, probably not a greatidea to mess around with ghosts
or entities like that. We've talked about possessions
and the phases and appearances that they take on and whether
this is fake or not. Like it's just one of those

(53:20):
things where it's like, do you really just want to even play
that game and invite anything inlike that to begin with, even if
it starts as a joke? If anyone needed a paranormal
cock block I'm sorry but it would have been Bricarda girl No
it is really sad though. If it's a mental health thing,
you know, that's, that's one thing.

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And and that's really sad in itself too, is I don't wish that
on anyone. Exactly.
But it also feels like. If she was this sort of public
figure, maybe her career wasn't going so well and she just was
trying to get in the limelight in some way.
So there's a lot of things that could be out of play here,
right? Exactly.

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I came across that, though, whenI was doing research.
I was like, this has got to be one of the stories.
Oh, my gosh, this has to be one of the stories.
And she's not the only one. There's.
Oh, yeah. People, Right.
Yeah, yeah. Which?
May be its own episode. Yeah, I think it might have to
be. Maybe in order to lighten up
when we do the ghost marriage thing for the Chinese culture,

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maybe that will be at the end to, like, lighten the mood
because, oh, man, yeah, it's dark.
So let's talk about those death marriages.
Do you think that that's truly fact or truly fiction?
I believe it. Yeah.
That's all true. The facts about the ghost
marriages that I shared from literally all of China, France

(54:45):
and the Mormon religion are fact.
The topic of ghost marriages in China, Oh man, is that a a
spiral and has been going on forcenturies.
We're definitely going to have to cover that, but OK.
Are you feeling a little like I treated you or tricked you more
than I treated you for this first spooky season episode?

(55:07):
Do you feel a little like down and Out because a lot of this
was fiction? No, I mean I still love a good
ghost. Story.
Right. So I tried to sweeten the deal a
little bit by putting in some macabre morsels about weddings,
because overall, a lot of traditions for weddings that we
still see today have very, very dark origins that are super

(55:31):
macabre. So they're so worth sharing with
you. So I wanted to give you the real
goodies at the end. So let's do it, yeah.
Some wedding traditions are kindof.
Weird when you think about it and you wonder, why do people
actually do this for a wedding? You know what?
Pomp and circumstance. Yeah, let's talk about that.
We're going to jump around to different cultures times

(55:53):
throughout this. It just as a funny banter back
and forth because some of this shit is hilarious.
Let's start with Viking culture.When you got married, you
weren't just marrying your future spouse, you were marrying
the whole family. Yeah, it was really intense.
So intense that prior to any arrangement, both families were

(56:14):
involving lawyers. OK.
That's progressive, right? Right, they were, surprisingly.
Super progressive for the time and everything.
The wedding process in this culture took a long time.
They kind of invented the concept of the long engagement.
Sometimes you would only wait a year, which I mean, that's kind

(56:36):
of common for today, But sometimes these transactions
could take over three years, which.
Yeah, long engagement. Sometimes it's worth it, helps
you save and all that. Traditionally, Fridays were the
day to get married for Vikings, and they were always in the
summertime just because of the weather.

(56:56):
And you can thank. We're going to another place
now. You can thank the freaking
Spartans for bachelor parties. Yeah, they were the inventors of
the. Does not surprise me.
Oh. Man, if you there are.
Some paintings that actually depict the idea of what goes
down. But it was very secretive.
It was kind of like Vegas for the Spartans.

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It's like what happens, who stays here?
And it apparently is very wild. I want you to guess when
Bachelorette parties became a thing.
Oh, probably way in the future. Yes.
Like Victorian era Oh. No.
Oh. OK, further.

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Even more recently. Oh wow.
OK. Bachelorette parties did.
Not become a thing until the equality movement.
Sexual revolution of the 1960s. Wow.
OK, yeah, I did. Not know that yeah isn't that
wild and when it. First began.
It wasn't what we think of it today.

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The craziness and elaborate planning of a Bachelorette party
Today we can thank for the 80s. They they were the ones that
started making it pretty wild and crazy.
So thanks. 80s veils had some pretty significant purposes back
in the day. They were used as insurance that

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the groom wouldn't see who he was marrying until it was too
late. And that wasn't the only thing
back in the day, way further back than that, brides wore
veils to ward off evil spirits who are trying to curse them and
trying to join the two people and giving them a damned
marriage. And this stemmed from the

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Romans. And believe it or not, veils
used to be red in Roman times. They believe that the veil had
to look like the bride was on fire in order to scare the
spirits away. So they were red veils that
looked like fire, which is. It's kind of badass.
Yeah. Bridesmaids.

(59:08):
They really, if you think bridesmaids put a lot of work in
now, you should just hear about what they had to do back in the
day. But we'll talk about them in
different staggered categories because they did a lot for the
bride. Why don't we talk about bouquets
for a hot 2nd? Bouquets have been a thing for a
very long time. You love seeing the lovely

(59:31):
bunches of flowers and yes, how nice.
But do you know what they used to hold during wedding
ceremonies? No.
Herbs and spices, yeah. There's multiple reasons for
this. Some favourites were garlic and
dough. There was.
These were also used to ward offevil spirits and also some major

(59:53):
Bo. Nobody wants a smelly wedding
party. These herbs and spices would
also be used later for the wedding party's meal.
They'd be cooked up with it and they'd have to consume it.
And the reason for this is they believed that these really tasty
herbs and spices. Would trigger some moods for the

(01:00:17):
bride and groom like aphrodisiacs.
Basically, yeah. What is more sexy than a?
Fucking spice rack. The ring and the giving away
tradition. Heard and talked about this so
many times, but we know that it was kind of strictly a business
transaction back in the day. Like literally.
And we can thank the Romans for that too.

(01:00:37):
Women were given two rings in ancient Roman culture.
There was an iron ring that would be worn at home and then
there would be a golden ring forwhenever she went out in public.
But diamond rings weren't actually popular until the
1940s. It was thanks to a very well
done marketing campaign. But yeah, we're, we're going to

(01:01:01):
go back to bridesmaids now. Bridesmaids, poor ladies.
So nowadays, bridesmaids have the freedom to pick the types of
dresses, maybe even the shades of different colors, and they
look gorgeous and everything. Well, that was not always the
case. Back in the day, bridesmaids
used to have to dress the exact same way as the bride because

(01:01:25):
their job was to act as a decoy,whether you were trying to
deflect evil spirits or literally try to avoid capture
in the bridal caravan on the wayto the groom, because people
would kidnap the bride. So this was a defense mechanism
to try to keep the bride safe. Meaning some brides were really

(01:01:48):
like putting everything they hadon the line because sometimes
they would get kidnapped and stuff because they thought they
were the bride. They went through it.
Other times brides, they just, most the time, I mean, they had
a long distance when you were thinking about it being a
business transaction and your family was joining with another
family, often times you were having to go a far way away to

(01:02:12):
get to your your group and people knew this.
So you had a lot of highwaymen and bandits that were living on
the road that would seek this type of caravan out for that
reason, because they were comingwith every Richard that riches
that they owned and everything else.
So yeah. Talk about scary.

(01:02:33):
We can also date that back to the Romans.
Thank you. The best man was invented
centuries ago because if the bride's family didn't approve of
the marriage, the groom would kidnap the bride, and the best
man would be appointed as the defender of the groom from the
bride's family, sometimes comingto fight.

(01:02:53):
All right. Yeah.
Can anybody say? Historical cringes If you were a
goth, fizzy goth, or a Hun or marrying one, it shouldn't come
as a surprise to see that the wedding party was fully armed
because you never knew when a bra was breaking out.

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Wedding dresses for a very long time were not white.
In fact, they were almost every other color but white.
They were in almost every other color but white.
And if someone was in a white dress, it was always a very
light colored dress on their wedding day.
But if they were in a lighter shade or white, this was just

(01:03:35):
basically to show that they werewealthy because at the time only
wealthy people could own light clothing or white because it was
very expensive to keep them clean back in the day.
And the crazy fact about the bouquet, the reason why they get
tossed is because back in medieval Europe, the toss was

(01:03:58):
meant as a defense mechanism. Oh yeah, because the bride,
after she was married and comingback down the aisle, she
literally had to run because allof the female attendants would
grab at her dress and start tearing it away from her body.
Why? It was.

(01:04:19):
Literally believed. That it was a Talisman of
fertility. Oh my gosh, yeah.
So she's just being. Naked before she got.
To the end of the aisle, basically.
Exactly so wedding. Dresses.
Back in the day, they tried to make the dresses to accommodate
for that happening because it was literal pieces.
Sometimes the bride would be tackled, apparently, Allegedly.

(01:04:42):
Yeah. The wedding dress, it was built
for action, let's just say. So the bouquet would be tossed
to try to distract the girls because they also wanted the
bouquet because it was another Talisman of sorts.
But still, the other thing that comes we're finally getting to
Victorian era. Let's break down the phrase

(01:05:04):
something old, something new, something borrowed, something
blue. This is wild.
The something blue was normally the bride's Garter, and this was
seen as a charm to again ward off evil intentions.
Evil spirits, and particularly those of glares, shot at the
bride from the attendance when she walked out because it was

(01:05:26):
said that if she was given the death glare or a glare of any
sort, it would take her fertility away.
That was the thing. So something borrowed is a
little bit more. You would borrow a garment that
was normally an undergarment from a woman who had already
given birth. And this was done as a trick to

(01:05:49):
ward off evil spirits because apparently a bride would be
developing her fertility during the wedding ceremony.
And so if an evil spirit thoughtshe was already fertile, they
would give up and be like, mAh, she's already fertile.
I don't have to do anything here.
Otherwise. If not, then they were going to
take that fertility away. The new, the something new was a

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promise of good luck in your newlife as husband and wife in
England. This is where you kind of see
the item like a sixpence in the shoe.
If you've ever heard of that. It's a Talisman to bring wealth
and prosperity to the couple back in the day.
Funny joke, I found a sixpence at an estate sale a couple

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summers ago so maybe I'll throw it in my shoe.
I remember us talking about that.
On Patreon, Yeah. What?
This is crazy. Oh, it's meant to be.
All right, let's get into some more really, truly MC Cobb esque
wedding adornments. So, Speaking of and the promises

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for the future, let's talk againabout Vikings for a hot second.
Both the bride and groom would go through a cleansing period
before their wedding. The bride would have to go
through all of her items and clothing and get rid of any item
that defined her as a maiden. It was a symbol of her going

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into her new life. Some things would be stored away
for her future children. She didn't have to get rid of
everything. Some of it though had to go away
in a keepsake box. Then she would bathe and her her
female family members would joinher in the bathhouse and kind of
instruct her on what was to comeand how to be a wife in life and

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all that jazz. But during this bath, she was
made to sweat a ton. They would put hot rocks in the
bottom of the bathing basin, kind of like a sauna of sorts,
to get rid of all of the toxins.Yeah.
And it was said that it was cleansing her of all of her
maiden toxins. But something else to help the

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bride sweat, they would actuallyuse switches on her back to open
pores. Can you imagine?
It was to get all of the wrong essences out of her body.
So yeah, it wasn't necessarily all spa time in there before the
groom could get married. He had to go through kind of a

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similar process, but his was definitely way more macabre in
order to become a man. How more Viking can you get?
He had to go through a death andrebirthing ceremony, of course,
and that involved all of the groom's married male relatives

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would join him in this. They would go to an ancestral
burial ground for their family. The groom to be would have to
dig up an old family member, take the sword out of the burial
chamber, and he would take that to his new bride to be.

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And this was a symbol of him becoming a man and being ready
to be a husband and a protector and all that jazz.
After he obtained this sword, literally going to grave Rob, he
would also then go and bathe andhis male relatives would then
come in and teach him the ways of being a husband and all of

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that. So this would then continue to
their ceremony. What's pretty badass about this
is the groom would offer the bride the sword that he unburied
and he would give her ring to her upon the sword when passing

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it. The bride would do the same
thing. Normally the sword that she
would give was from her father'scollection and she would pass
her ring to him on the sword that was given to him.
And it was a vow of symbolism from each other for promise and
protection. But these wedding ceremonies
began with animal sacrifices. And if it was a blood sacrifice,

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the blood would then be sprinkled on both the bride and
groom. Very, very macabre.
But the last thing that I have for you, why do we have what we
have for our modern weddings? Well, we can thank Queen
Victoria for that one. She was the very first to wear
all pure white for her wedding, including her bridesmaids.

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She also was in charge of changing those just tasty herbs
and spices. She was the one that exchanged
them for flowers. Thank you, Queen Victoria.
So instead of smelling like a rotisserie chicken, you can hold
some pretty beautiful blooms. Thank you for paving the way for

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that, Queen Victoria. Can your bouquet just.
Be dill, garlic, cheese herds and.
What if, what if it's one of those big elaborate Bloody
Marys? Oh yeah, an edible.
Bouquet for your wedding, right?Oh my gosh, that'd be.
So hilarious. That'd be very Wisconsin.
Throw it to me. Just gently pass it.

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Hey, this goes to Halle. Pass it down.
Yeah, I just can't imagine. I'm but get it.
And flowers. Well, I now pronounce this
episode macabre and macabre. That's what I've got for you
today. That was a good one in.
What places I didn't expect. So I learned a lot and yeah, I'm

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pumped up for your for your matrimony or ceremony.
Now I'm going to be thinking about all these little things as
we go throughout. I know I'm going to be thinking
that same. Day I can only imagine waiting
in my little hiding spot. It would be like herbs and
spices. Yeah.
Oh. My gosh, dude, that's.
Three weeks away. Yeah.

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Yeah. When this?
Comes out, it will be the week of fuel happening.
So yeah, it is insane. I picked up my dress last night.
Oh my gosh. I can't wait for you to see it.
I hope he doesn't listen right now.
He's normally a little behind anyway, so hopefully.
Yeah. Keep a secret.
Yeah, I'll. Have to tell.
You about what it looks like. I'm excited to yeah.

(01:12:31):
Oh, man, I'm I'm excited to. I mean, we've been together for
a long time. We've been engaged for a long
time and it just can't believe it's happening.
It's crazy. But it's been fun doing this as
an episode because we're going to have such a time.
Maybe we'll be able to post a couple pictures or something for
everybody. Yeah, that'll be fun, Yeah.
Yeah, that'll be fun. Yeah.

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It'll only be the second. Time we've been.
Together in person, so you know it's going to be a blast.
Oh my gosh. I can't wait.
Yeah, but that's what I've got for you.
Happy spooky season. We are just gearing up for more
to come and we hope you are enjoying it.
We hope that the season is all that you want it to be.

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Thank you guys so much for coming to hang out with us today
and indulge our Funny Fact Fiction game and all that.
We love you guys so much and we're so excited for all of our
new listeners. I hope you enjoyed it and as
always, have fun, be safe, be kind and we will shock you

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