October 13, 2025 • 61 mins
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Welcome back listeners. For those of you who are new,
what are you even doing with your life?
Welcome new people. Welcome Spooky.
For those of you who've been with us from the beginning, you
kind of know that we usually do a little banter because we never
see each other. We've seen each other one time
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in person in real life, and we're about to make that #2 here
coming up real soon. I'm so.
Excited. So it's funny because you said
you're sort of lost your voice alittle bit.
I have a little tickle in my throat today too.
And so I don't know if I'm just residually experiencing your
symptoms from afar. Both going to start sounding
(00:42):
like Kermit the Frog. Hopefully not hopefully I can
get through but I do have a drinks.
Good, I know I'm chugging water.Whiskey is that whiskey remedy
that I'm. There you go.
And bourbon. I shouldn't say whiskey.
It's. Actually, bourbon, bourbon
whiskey, I don't know, I don't know what the rules are, but
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it's technically a bourbon. So but yeah, welcome back.
This is another spooky season episode and this one is of
course, Listener tales, which weI've been excited to share with
you and thank you for everyone who sent in stories.
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Yes, thank you. There's plenty of spooky stuff
to talk about. There'll never really be a
shortage. But I really like hearing from
listeners because you and I, we both have our own stories and we
know pretty much know people whohave also had stories.
So we know they're out there. Oh heck yeah.
What keeps you up at night? Is it the Creek of floorboards
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when no one's home, the shadows that shift just outside your
bedroom door, or a sudden chill that makes you swear someone is
watching you? For centuries, people have
whispered about the things that disturb our sleep.
Phantoms drifting at the foot ofthe bed, strange voices calling
out in the dead of the night, even visits from loved ones long
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since past. Some say these are just tricks
of the mind. Others believe they are proof
that death is not the end. Tonight's listener tales take us
deep into the world of sleeplessnights and restless spirits.
There are accounts of people whoswear they made contact with
something or someone on the other side, encounters that hint
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at life after death, and folklore of cryptids that crawl
out of the shadows when the lights go out.
These aren't just ghost stories.These are experiences that left
people questioning reality itself.
So grab your blanket, keep the lights low, and maybe check
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under the bed before you tuck yourself in tonight.
When you started with what keepsyou up at night?
I was like that is a loaded. Question that the cats, besides
the cats, the critter, where should we start?
I guess since we're talking about night time and sleep
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stuff. I have one for you.
Yes, it's very close to me, as in sleeps in the same bed with
me every single night. But yeah, so I think we have
talked about this before on the show about my partner has from
time to time had some sleep issues and had some experiences
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upon waking and sometimes while he's not asleep at all, hasn't
been asleep. And this one happened.
Oh, gosh, this is very recent. This.
I would say this is within the last 30 days, maybe 60 days at
most. Oh, Dang, yeah.
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And I didn't tell you about thisbecause I wanted to save it.
So basically what happened is wehad gone to bed and king size
beds. There's lots of space and the
room is fairly dark because I'm not someone who can sleep with a
bunch of lights on. I'm that person that if you have
like ATV in the room or anythingthat has some sort of, you know
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how they'll have a little light on it, that stuff will drive me
crazy. It's like Star Trek Enterprise.
Oh yeah. I have to cover it up.
So I have to, I have to have dark.
So the room is extremely dark and I get up in the middle of
the night to use the bathroom and we probably had only been
asleep for a few hours at most. And I, I come back to the bed
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and lay down. And then basically shortly after
I laid down, he pops up out of bed.
He's basically in an upright position.
And then he takes off What? And he's freak, he's freaking
out. Do you see that?
Do you see that? And I'm like, I can't see
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anything because it's totally dark in there.
And then I'm panicking because he basically took off running.
Yeah. And he's like, you don't see
that. And I'm like, no, I don't see
anything. It's OK Go back to bed or
whatever. You're fine.
And then I like, eventually he snapped out of it and he came
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back to bed. And I was like, what?
What's going on? What did you see?
Yeah. And he's.
I saw this old woman dressed in the Gray cloak, no arms, between
the bed and the wall, and he said she was on some sort of
tricycle. Like the stuff in horror movies
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basically. What the heck?
Said she was like if he went from floor to the height sitting
down. She's about is about four feet
tall. Does he ever hear anything with
these? He's never said that he hears
things. It's always visual, always very
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visual for him, and it's not theonly time that he's seen
something like that. Another time he saw something
under the bed pop up and crawl out and then pull back in under
the bed. I don't like that.
Yeah. So I don't know some contacts
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with that. I know that our minds do a lot
of things when we're asleep or we're in between wakefulness and
sleep. It can do messed up things to
you. So it's.
Yeah, he probably was just seeing something.
He was probably stuck in a dream, having experience.
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But the question that I always have, is there any truth to
that? Is it possible that when you are
in that state that you're just tapping into something that
exist in almost like a parallel dimension or a different realm?
Then what happens in our own, our own reality?
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Is it just making you tap into something like it's real but you
can't always see it? I don't know.
Yeah, it's creepy. It is so creepy and I could see
that your brain has to switch into a different mode to go into
dreaming anyway, So what if you are just stuck in that mode and
then you're able to see things? So my fiance at it's very
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similar. He has some things like that
every once in a while but it used to be way worse nightmarish
things way more often before. But this happened probably a
year after we started dating. I was spending the night and it
was completely dark in his room and he woke me up because he was
shaking in bed. And I turn over and he's looking
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at the corner where the bedroom door is, where the light switch
is the darkest part of the room.And he is shaking and pointing
in that corner and he's crying. Can you see?
This you see this. And I was like, no, what's going
on? At first I thought, OK, he's
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dreaming because he's also had those times where you think he's
awake and then he tells you, yeah, that Penguin smells like
beef or whatever. And you're like, sleep, just
going to stop asking questions and go with the fuck.
Yeah. But this time was different.
He had a clarity that was just he his eyes were wide open.
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He was sitting up in bed, and hewas just very distraught.
And I'm like, if you hate seeingthem like that as it is and
you're like, can you describe itto me?
And he's I don't want to, I can't, I don't want to.
And I'm like, OK, so I had to put on my big girl pants and go
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turn the fucking light up. So I'm going over the and I flip
the light on quick and I'm like nothing, see, there's nothing.
And I was like, OK. And then I like, rushed back
into bed and I'm like, do you still see it?
No, what if he was like, it's still there?
Oh my gosh, I would have probably shit my pants spooping
for real. That would have been a spoop
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moment. So literally the rest of the
night I had to read him a book 'cause he was that shaken.
Man. Never seen him like that before.
I was like all right negative energy so not allowed.
Don't know what it was and it can stay away.
And you know, it is possible forpeople to die from fear.
People have died from fright. Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, Your heart just goes into OverDrive.
And how many? What do they consider that when
you watch a scary movie, you burn enough calories?
It's like the equivalent of running a marathon or something.
Isn't that what? I've heard that before
somewhere, But I'm like. No, I think it definitely
accelerated heart rate. Probably they wrote compare it
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to a certain amount of like cardio exercise or something,
but I don't know how valid. It right Otherwise Can you
imagine? I'm going to go workout now.
Grabs movie off the ship. Yeah.
So I don't know. It's definitely the fear is real
in that moment, whether what you're seeing is real quote or
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not, it's real to you. It's definitely real to you.
But yeah, that's my first tale of terror.
Feel bad for him. Hopefully that goes away
eventually. He won't have to deal with that
forever. Because yeah, a lot of it can be
attributed to poor sleep schedule and long work hours and
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stress. And you can always chalk up a
lot of my sleep disturbances happen around stress.
So it is what it is. But yeah, it's just the question
is, are you opening the door to something that exists that you
just can't see in your waking hours?
I don't know. It's scary.
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Regardless, so it is. What's next, friend?
I'll tell you a short. One my mom comes back for this
one. So my mom submitted a story and
it's short, but it's very interesting.
When she was little, probably between 3:00 and 4:00, my
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grandma and great grandma, her mom and her grandma took her to
the cemetery. They were putting flowers on one
of our relatives's grave and they were trying to clean it up
and stuff like that. Well, my mom went off to another
part of the cemetery and was just like playing and my
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grandma, it like freaked her outso bad that she's just at least
she's occupied. Let's finish this up and get out
of here deal. When it was time to leave she
went over to my mom because she did not want to leave and she's
she kept telling me that she just wanted to get out of there
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because I kept looking back and like almost like she was
interacting with someone. And she was.
Screaming and crying that she didn't want to leave when it was
time to leave. And my grandma was like, I don't
think I'm going to bring you back the next time we have to
do. And she was how old at the time?
Between 3:00 and 4:00. OK, Yeah, that's the right age.
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Yeah. You hear that all the time of
people having their kids say creepy things.
And. We could probably do an episode
just on creepy stuff that kids say.
You really should. That would be a good episode
because Oh my God, some of the scariest stories come from kids.
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But yeah, my mom has. She had another story too, when
she was a little bit older and when she lived with my great
grandma. It was a very old house and in
the upstairs bedroom. It was a consistent thing and
she couldn't explain it, but in one side of her bedroom there,
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it looked like there were shadows of two people, a man and
a woman dressed in like Victorian clothing.
And it was like side profiles. And it looks like they like, it
looks like they were talking to each other.
And it was a shadow that was consistently on the wall.
And she got so freaked out, she tried like changing the lighting
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and stuff. It didn't go away.
So eventually. Yeah, and she's, I could not
sleep in there. It really freaked me out.
And I guess in order to just completely get rid of it, she
had to put posters all over the front of it.
Otherwise, it was still coming through everything else.
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What was the story about the house that she was in at that
time? Like how old it was?
Any history at all? Yeah, so it was built in the
8th. It was one of the first house
settlements in the area. When they had built the downtown
area, that was one of the first,like, residential areas.
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But besides that, we don't know.But mom always said that when
she lived in that house with my grandma that it just seemed off.
But in that room, she's. Yeah, you couldn't tell me
otherwise. The silhouettes look like this
shadow on the wall of these two people was very distinct.
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There was nothing in the room that was somehow.
Projecting the image. Yeah, so she's.
Yeah, I sold to this day. Can't explain it, but that house
was old and very creepy. I've remembered it when I was a
kid. I fell down those stairs.
Oh, no. Oh, yeah.
Explains a lot about me. Still clumsy to this day.
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Yeah, it does. Yes, I fell backwards.
No. Yeah.
And it was hardwood. Stairs, I fell downstairs, wood
stairs to the basement. So that probably explains a lot
about me. That explains a little about me.
OK, so Speaking of cemeteries, Ihave a similar one for you from
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Trish, one of our listeners. Trish sent in a lot of great
stories, some of which I'm goingto save for other episodes,
which Blair, you and I talked about the boot camp one.
I'm not going to give it away here, but we're covering that at
some point. My.
Gosh, yes, Trish, you freaking rock.
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Thank you. Very much Thank you.
So this one's it's short, but it's similar to the one that you
said about the three-year old version of your mom.
All right, so Trish said I I'm certain my son, as an infant,
interacted with the ghost of my grandma, his great grandma, when
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I took him to see her at the cemetery, I sat at her headstone
and cried until he started just doing those cute little baby
Coos and giggles looking up at the juniper tree over her grave.
Chills, chills, chills. I would sob and not.
I'd be a little creeped out, obviously, but if I had a kid
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that did that, I'd be like, Oh my gosh.
Yeah, and actually it was sent in by Trisha.
Sorry if I messed that up. Trisha, maybe you go by Trish.
Hopefully I didn't offend you, but it's from Trisha.
Trisha. Thank you.
Oh I would be spooping and like crying at the same time.
It's like in the field, so in the spine tingles.
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When you're in that moment and you're feeling that grief and to
have some sort of confirmation like that, to know and feel like
there's more beyond this, I think it's it's got to be, I
don't know, really special to feel that connection and be
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like, OK, that's yeah, it's OK. Like we go on and kids again are
just so impressionable and. They definitely, I feel, see
things that we don't for sure. Yeah, so we'll have to do that
maybe for a future episode. I think there's enough content
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to cover about creepy kids things, say, and then maybe some
more light hearted stuff. And yeah, so that one, that one
is another cemetery experience. Then I guess while we're on this
topic, I have a couple more stories for, I guess you could
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say proof afterlife or life after death, Proof of life after
death. Yeah.
I'm interested. Sound good?
OK, let's do this listener storysent in by a very special friend
of the show and longtime listener.
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We love you. This story comes from Amanda,
and that's all I'm going to. Say thank you Amanda for sending
this in you also. Freaking robbed.
Yes you do. All right, here goes.
In 2009, my 18 year old sister died from a drug overdose.
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I was living in Oklahoma at the time while all my family was
back in Illinois. Naturally, after finding out, I
immediately drove home to Illinois.
As you can imagine, the whole experience was devastating for
my entire family. I remained in Illinois for about
a month after the funeral, but eventually had to return to
Oklahoma due to work. When I returned to Oklahoma, I
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began drinking heavily. So this is where I'm not sure if
I was drunk or if something was actually happening.
I'm a very meticulous person, very routine oriented.
For example, if I open a cabinet, I shut it for a solid
month. When I would go into the
bathroom in the morning, the doors to my comments would be
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open. I'm not exaggerating when I say
I felt like I was going insane. I truly felt that it was my
sister messing with me. Finally one morning I had enough
and I yelled at the top of my lungs to stop fucking with me
and leave me alone. By God it stopped after that.
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I think about it a lot still. All these years later and if it
really was my sister, I wish I hadn't ran her off but on.
But the other side of my brain tells me no, you were just
flushed that entire time and probably just left the cabinets
open. My mom said she actually saw my
sister standing at the foot of her bed.
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I never saw her, but her and I always played pranks on each
other as kids so I wouldn't haveput it past her to mess with me
in the afterlife. Other than my mom, this is the
first time I've told anyone this.
Story And that's hard because it's like you are in such
emotional turmoil in that time and then to not know and to be
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annoyed because it's like 1 it is it freaks you out to have
something like that happen. And then you wonder after the
fact because yeah, I would I'd be really frustrated too.
I'd be like, dude, you need to freaking stop this.
I'm done with it. Stop it.
And then to just even think about it after the fact.
Did I just lose that connection?Yeah, yeah.
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And I replied to I replied say something similar and the way I
feel like it really was since they played pranks and jokes on
each other, I feel like that's like a funny way for them to be
like I can see how they could mess with you to be like aw
right, going to fuck with you. Feel like I'm still at it.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I am so.
Sorry truly for your loss. And for your family, I just hope
you're OK and we love you. And yeah, just wanted to say
that. Yeah, Amanda, you do freaking
rock and we really love you. And thank you so much for
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sharing this with us. I feel honored that you'd be
willing to share that vulnerableside with us.
So thank you. Thank you very.
Much and I have another one for a proof of life after death that
I can share with you as well. So we have a theme.
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I feel like this time I got several stories along the same
line. So Amanda, I hope this next
story also gives you some more. What's the word validation?
Maybe that these stories of proof of life after death gives
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you hope and gives you the sensethat you did have that
connection with your sisters. OK, this one comes from
Anonymous. I've had several supernatural
encounters in my life, from seeing full body apparitions to
smelling the faint scent of cigar smoke in a house where no
one has ever smoked before, to acloaked hooded figure dressed in
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all black. But the most positive encounter
I've ever had happened recently.My older brother and I were
really close. He was my person, the kind of
person you can always count on. There was a time after we got
older that we on the phone almost every single day.
He was a warm, kind and gentleman.
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I remember in one of our talks Itold him that if one of us
passed away before the other that we had to promise to try to
make contact with each other shortly after to prove that
there was something more and that we were OK wherever we
ended up. And he said if I can, I will.
Sadly my brother passed away notthat long ago.
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I grieve for him some days. When the phone rang I expected
to hear his voice on the other end, but then I had to remind
myself that he wouldn't be calling me anymore.
I thought about him every day and I still do.
Shortly after he passed, I was laying in my bed and sure
enough, I rolled over and there he was, sitting in the bed next
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to me. His face was flush rosy pink,
just like I remembered. He had a kind of glow about him.
He looked me right in the eyes, smiled big and leaned over and
kissed me on the cheek. And just like that, he was gone.
It was the most peaceful, joyfulexperience I've had within the
supernatural realm. My brother kept his promise and
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showed me proof of the afterlifethat.
Was awesome. Yeah.
Thank you, Anonymous. Patreon you guys get like.
Paying for some. Clean, get to see all the
redness, all the tears. Yeah, that one really got me.
Yeah. And those people will share the
story like that with someone andit's it gets so easily
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discounted by other people as oh, you're just we're seeing
things or you wanted to see him or whatever.
But the other part of this storyis this person, this the man in
this story. All right, so there's other
information that is important tothe story.
So for me to be able to tell youthe information that kind of
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adds to this, I need to be honest with you.
So the person is an anonymous. This person that told the story
was my mom. And that's why I think it hit a
little bit harder for me as thisperson was my uncle and this was
fairly recent. But what makes it even more
compelling is the fact that my uncle was a spiritual person, I
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will say, and I guess religious to you, but when I say
spiritual, he was someone who practiced astral projection very
regularly, especially when he was like in his 20s.
And so there's this story that Iknow of from my childhood.
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I have an older sister, she would have been three at the
time and we I think at the time she was living in the house that
I grew up in but it was like a multi level unit and she was
staying with my grandma because my mom was pregnant with me and
she had to be bedridden. So there was a day where my
sister went to my grandma and said grandma Uncle G came to
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visit and my grandma was like, why would he do My sister said
Uncle G came to visit and he kissed me on the cheek.
And my grandma's she got mad. She's why would he come visit?
He lives all the way in Kentucky.
Why would he come visit and not say anything?
And she called my uncle up on the phone and bitched him out
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basically and was like, why didn't why did you come by and
kiss Holly on the cheek and not come say hi to me?
And he was laughing because he'sI was there, but I wasn't there.
He told her that what he that hedid a national projection and
that he came to kiss my sister on the cheek.
And that was his way of showing that he was there and validating
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that he had been there. So for him to be able to tell my
mom, I promise I'll come see you.
And to kiss her on the cheek as his way of confirming that he
was really there just goes back to the same story of when my
sister was little. Yeah.
Yeah, that is so wild though. Yeah, yeah, that was a good one.
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Yeah, that was a good one. Man.
You hit me hard. You hit me.
It's been emotional this last couple weeks as it is with,
believe it or not, that kind of stuff here to, I don't know.
And yeah, I guess it's a big emotional time anyway, and
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things happen, but it's been a struggle just knowing that
there's going to be people that.That you would want to be there.
That can't be there, Yeah. Exactly.
And I've been, you know, how some people have like different
things like Cardinals or butterflies or things like that.
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I've just been seeing a lot of that in a weird way.
Yeah. Like last Monday, I was leaving
a restaurant after we got our marriage license and I there was
a monarch that was literally just like right up off my head.
And there's always the story about, oh, if a monarch is like
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hovering around you, it's supposed to send your loved.
One a message that kind of yeah and it.
Just would not go away. And it was the same thing.
One of my grandma's I believe isa yellow butterfly and I've seen
so many freaking yellow butterflies recently and it's
just, I don't know. I don't know.
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That's interesting that you say that because lately I have
picked, I've been doing some things too in the world of
meditation and different things like that.
And my symbol that I asked to see is a yellow butterfly.
Are you serious? Yeah, and I've been seeing a lot
of them. I don't even know what type of
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butterflies they are, but they're completely solid yellow.
Oh, that. Yeah, they're almost, they look
like butter, almost like the little.
Yeah, they're like this big. Yes, OK, we've been seeing the
same thing. That's insane.
I tell you what. No.
Well, I'm going to. Keep an eye out.
Yes, I'm going to keep an eye out at your wedding and just see
what I can see. Do it and honestly, I'm going to
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be a hot mess anyway I bet. But if I see one of my symbols
for one of my grandma's, I'm probably going to.
You're going to lose your shit. Yeah.
Yeah. But how awesome is it, though,
that you can make this arrangement?
I heard this one time on one of those ghost celebrity ghost
stories. I can't remember which actor,
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actress it was, but it was this similar story where they, I
think it might have been one of The Golden Girls.
Really. I think maybe, or it was that or
Carrie Fisher, I don't remember,but it was one of them that they
had made. Maybe it was Carrie Fisher's
best friend. They had made an agreement and
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the person did come to visit right after they died.
The hour of the phone, somethingto do with the phone calls, I
don't know. Anyways.
That's insane. This happens a lot.
So now I'm like, if you go first, if I go first, we need to
come see each other. We got to figure out I'm going
to show up as a woodchuck. No, I don't want to be a
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woodchuck. I don't want to be a woodchuck.
Please no. Yeah, I really believe that.
It's because gosh, IA couple years ago, my grandma, one of
my, I won't say which grandma, but the one grandma is
definitely a yellow butterfly. And I saw a yellow butterfly in
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November when there was snow on the ground, I shit you not, in
my yard. And I was having a hard day and
I was like, no shit, there's something to it.
Did I ever tell you about? Gosh, this was like 5 years ago
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now when I lived by myself. I was decorating for Christmas.
Oh, the music box. OK, yeah, that gives me chills.
Yeah, that gives me chills. For people that want to argue it
was a coincidence or some sort of fluke, like I understand,
especially if you've never witnessed it, but the fact that
it was a full week later to the day, I never wound that thing up
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after the fact. There would have been nothing
that set that off and it was just a few little twinkle
twinkles and yeah. Yeah.
This week is not sponsored by Kleenex, but I wish it was.
This episode yet? So it has brought Simpsons
especially. OK, what else have you got?
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I have a little kid story too, and this is with maybe haunted
house, maybe something else I'm going to.
This person wishes to remain anonymous though, so we shall
feel for real real. We won't give names so it says
hey ladies how's it going? So I'm trying to keep this short
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it's OK it's fine. I have a 2 year old nephew that
in recent months has started to yell goose and get really afraid
when running around the house. And for a while my brother and
his wife were like what the heckis this goose?
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I'm like yeah goose. But they started realizing that
when my nephew would go running into the kitchen he would stop
and immediately come running back out and yell goose, goose
like he was really upset. And then it started happening
when he would walk past the bathroom which is right off of
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their kitchen and they finally figured out what he was saying.
He was saying ghost, not goose, and he's never done this before.
He's been able to talk for a little while now and this has
just started happening. Something to note though, about
this house. When my brother and his wife
bought the house and moved in, they had some renovations to do.
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This would have been about four or five years ago.
In one of the UPS stores, in oneof the upstairs bedrooms where
my nephew now sleeps, there's a tiny door.
Oh no, not the tiny door. Whatever.
With tiny door. There's nothing good ever
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happens with a tiny door. Nothing ever.
If you are going house shopping and you see a tiny door, you.
It's a no. Yeah, it's a no.
You run or just be very preparedto be dealing with some shit
macabre public service announcement.
Anyway, So when my nephew was born and they got him all
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settled in that room, they decided to turn this little tiny
door cubby hole into a play roomfor him.
Like overt hideout. Who does that, right?
I don't know where movie. Oh my gosh, I'm just like
picturing you like roll the ballin and it rolls.
But I'm just anonymous. And ever since this whole thing
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with the Goose started, my nephew has refused to go in that
playroom at all and has always been hesitant.
My brother or his wife have to go in there and pull out toys
that he wants because he refusesto go in there.
No. And she said there's also a side
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note which I find is very interesting and part of this
issue. When my brother and his wife
first moved in, they had stuff go missing and not just like a.
It's in the tiny room. It's in the tiny room.
My gosh, Can you imagine? It's at the very back.
Just stop. All the missing things are just
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piled up against the wall. That'd be fucking awful.
Can you imagine that They'll. Oh yeah, I'm going in to get my
son his toy and there's your fucking spatula.
Nope. This is a This would be a great
scary movie, actually. Yes, I know.
Oh my gosh. Well, let's see, where did it
leave off? Oh, OK, so it wasn't just a
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moving thing either. Some items, random items would
go disappearing from random rooms in the house, be gone for
days, and then show up in another room in the house.
There is time to move. Yeah, exactly.
My gosh. And then Anonymous goes on to
say there's no way that one of them would have put some of
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those items in the one room, Like who uses this in the
bathroom type deal? So it's always been a thing that
they've shrugged off. But I'm not shrugging this off.
And now that my nephew is seeinggoose ghosts, that as funny
goose ghosts. But how terrifying Can you
imagine? Imagine this at night if you
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were haunted by a goose ghost and all of a sudden it is quiet
and you just hear in a random part in the fucking house.
I would rather it be a goose ghost than whatever is going on
in this situation. Same.
But Duke, what if the ghost goose that say that five times
fast could bite you? That would be awful.
Yeah. Anyway, sorry.
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I'm sorry, Anonymous, we're not picking on you, but.
Instead of yanking the covers off of you in the middle of the
night, it's just a goose body. You're getting goosed by a
goose. You're getting goose by a goose.
Yep, you're bent over sleeping on your side.
Your fanny's hanging out it. Hurts so bad.
Hey, geese are nothing to mess with man.
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No assholes they are. They can be.
They really can. They're aggressive, they are
looking for fights. So one as a ghost?
I can't even fucking imagine. I feel like that would be the
ghost that drove all the other ghosts out of your house.
Yes, sure, sure. Bully.
It's your bully. Sorry, Anonymous, Let's see.
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Help make that less scary somehow it.
Really did It really did. So thank you, Anonymous's
nephew, for making the chills goaway at the end.
But yeah, just at the very bottom it says yeah.
So I don't know what they're going to do.
I don't know how long my nephew is going to be seeing this thing
or whatever it is, but I have a feeling this isn't the last that
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I have heard of this. So if I find something else out
I will keep you posted. But until then, thanks ladies.
You guys are awesome and I love listening.
Thank you Anonymous. Yeah.
They should put some recording equipment up there maybe and see
what they can. And Anonymous, I'm sure you're
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going to probably listen to thisepisode, maybe do some
investigation. I know you don't want to poke
the bear necessarily, but if it's happening anyway, it's just
maybe just felt like a recorder up there.
See what's going on? And then, yeah, I mean, you'd
hate you don't. Want to know?
Exactly because, Oh my Josh, it's are they able to sell their
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house immediately if they don't like what they hear?
But that's the thing too. It's if your nephew is what,
too? And you don't really want to
keep asking them because you don't want to keep, like,
bringing it up and have it be something that's constantly on
their minds. But if all of a sudden this kid
is just, like, running into the kitchen and, like, turning right
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back out, like, that's terrifying.
Or in the bathroom, it's. Oh, dude.
But no tiny doors. Yeah.
I think that house would be the house would be going up for.
Sale I think. Oh definitely definitely.
I feel like this makes me think of this now.
I'm sorry my brain is so random.We need to have a shirt of
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macabre rules. Like horror movie rule?
Yes. Negative energy sounds loud.
No tiny doors. Oh.
Yeah. Oh, put that together.
But of all things, it's and thispoor playroom is in there in in
little room. And then imagine.
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OK, I'm sorry. Now I'm like going off on this
thing because I'm like picturingthis as a horror movie now.
Wait, he's going to grow up a little bit.
It's going to be that teenage time where things are always
weird. And then that's going to be
weird in there. Yeah.
If you stay in that house, just get ready when that kid is 12
years old, might have a whole new set of activity.
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I don't want to wish that on anyone.
But yeah, I don't know, maybe doa little cleansing or something.
Yeah. Thank you, Anonymous.
Really. Yeah.
No, I don't like that at all. All right, I have one more tale
from our listener, Melissa, and let me just say she did a great
job writing this. The way it's written is I just
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love it. So I'm going to read it just as
exactly as she did. I'm probably going to maybe mess
up some of the slang because it is written with a different
dialect, but I'm going to do my best.
Thanks Melissa for writing in. Yeah.
All right. You ready?
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Oh yeah. OK, for as long as I can recall
I was told stories by my family,a woven patchwork of Cherokee
legend stained by murderers and murderers and a superstitious
northern Alabama granny. Just off the four lane highway,
down winding roads of decaying shacks and churches and fields,
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appears a small dirt and gravel Rd.
A small community of houses gives way to the comforting
front porch of my Granny and Papa.
The days were heavy with clinging heat that stifles your
breath, leaving you to porch sitearly in the morning and again
at dusk, never at night. Porches with paint blue ceilings
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to keep the ghost away were a vantage point to ignore the
neighbor with the burned cross and suspicious robes in his
living room. Don't look outside at night.
Not for the human horrors that existed a mirror driveway away,
but for what crept deep in the woods near the Shirt Pit and
through the valley of Sand Mountain.
Sitting in the living room, the sound of a woman screaming
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echoes over the episode of Unsolved Mysteries playing on
the TV. Everything outside grows still.
No longer are the goats and the chickens chattering, and even
the racist next door have grown still.
We go upstairs to the master bedroom under the heavyweight of
a quilt made by my ancestors. My granny's thick Southern draw
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cuts the silence. I cannot do a Southern accent.
I'm so sorry. That's OK.
The Wampus Cat is out in the holler again.
She smells something awful, a disheveled Gray Halo of hair
hiding her expression. She continues.
Long time ago, a Cherokee woman named Running Deer, dressed in a
Mountain Lion skin hid in the woods to spy on a ceremony she
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wasn't meant to see. She got found out, and she got
damned. Now she's in the woods, a woman
cat with green eyes. She screams in the woods and
kills the goats and chickens allaround.
Now may like you're sleeping andI'll close the windows
downstairs. I have heard of the Wampus Cat,
but I have never heard anybody'sstories about it.
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Yeah, this is the first for me. I had never even heard of it.
So I did pull up a little bit ofinformation.
Just thought maybe I could sharethat with listeners just to give
it some more context but and maybe some of our listeners have
or haven't heard of it either. The legend of the Wampus Cat is
believed to originated with the Cherokee people.
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According to one of the most common versions, a woman named
Running Deer, or sometimes just the wife of the hunter, wanted
to witness a sacred ceremony that was forbidden to women.
She disguised herself in the skin of a Mountain Lion and
crept into the woods to spy on the gathering.
When the medicine men discoveredher, they cursed her, condemning
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her to live forever as 1/2 womanhalf cat creature.
This transformation made her a spirit of vengeance, doomed to
roam the forest, her scream a warning that death or misfortune
was near. Descriptions of the Lampas cat
vary, but she's usually said to be half woman, half cougar,
walking upright like a person but with glowing yellow or green
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eyes that Pierce the darkness. Some say she is completely
covered in fur and has the face of a Panther or a bobcat.
Others describe her more as a spectral figure, shadow, like
more spirit than flesh. The Wampus cat's scream is a
signature part of the legend. People describe it as a woman's
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scream, high pitched and blood curdling, so loud and chilling
that it can stop livestock in their tracks.
Harbinger of death, illness or bad luck?
Hearing it means something terrible is about to happen.
So I wonder if Melissa recalls what was happening around that
time. Because as the legend goes, when
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you hear that sound, it foretells of some sort of
illness, maybe bad luck or deathin the family.
I'm curious, Melissa, you'll have to write in and let us know
if you remember anything happening around that time.
Yes, please do. Also, Melissa, are you a writer?
Because if you're not, you really should be.
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And you have to publish this story, make this into a novel,
because this was super. Awesome.
Oh, this would this would be an incredible character for the one
that I was telling you, the historical piece that I wanted
to dig. This would be a great thing.
But yeah, you need to get on that.
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You could probably put together like a whole bunch of legends
from your culture, your family history.
That would be really awesome. Yes, and I would like a copy.
Sign I would love to read it. Yes, please.
OK. So I have one more listener tale
for you. And do you have any others or is
this? I have tears.
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OK, we can do that next. That'll fit in perfect with.
This excellent. All right.
OK. OK.
So our next story comes from BG and she says this happened in
2020 I think. I can't remember the exact date
or even the month. I'm thinking it was late spring
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or summer. Anyway, I took my dog for a walk
at Pikes Peak State Park near McGregor on my afternoon off.
It was later in the afternoon. Beautiful sunshiny, calm day.
We were halfway or a little overhalfway on our hike and we're
approaching a mound group. As in Effigy Mounds.
The Effigy Mounds National Monument isn't that far away.
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The mounds overlook the Mississippi.
As we were approaching the moundgroup, I could see what looked
like a shirtless bald guy and where he was would have been
standing on top of one of the mounds, which was pretty
disrespectful in my humble little opinion.
But it was 2020. People forgot how to people.
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There was a lot going on back then for sure.
There was some underbrush so I could really only see him from
mid torso up. I remember that he also had a
weird skin tone color, like the orange of a fake tan almost.
I was looking at my dog and making sure I had a good hold on
his leash and shortening up as he loves people, but not all
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people love dogs, and you have to respect that.
And he also likes to bark and beloud.
Anyway, as we get closer to the mounds, there was no one around.
It opens up there so you can seeinto the woods.
No one was around, or at least Icouldn't see anyone.
And you can see through the trees for a little ways and even
to the trail further down the way.
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That made me a little nervous. So we started walking faster
because the parking lot was maybe 15 to 20 minutes away,
depending on the pace. Oh, no.
This. Yeah, this is not as busy of a
trail as some of the other trails by the main gate, so I
didn't usually see anyone when Iwould hike there.
I felt like the mood had shiftedfrom fun and light to more
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foreboding, but that could have also been just me.
We got to an intersection with the trail taking us back to the
parking lot and I ended up walking through a cloud of bugs.
I think it was the stupid gnats and swallowed a couple.
I hate that. I've been there too.
I'm so sorry. Yeah.
As we started into, I'm telling you, there's something wrong
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with me today, OK? As we started into the next
segment, I could hear what sounded like something huge.
I'm thinking a cow or a bull or something.
I grew up on a farm. That's what it reminded me of,
crashing through the underbrush super fast towards us.
I got scared. There's really nowhere to go.
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It was coming fast too. I could see the leaves moving on
the shrubby trees. I think I've been over to either
grab my dog or shield him. I'm not sure what the hell my
thought process was there. It probably should have been to
run. But anyways, a strong gust of
wind blew right over us. It really hadn't been much more
than a light breeze all day, andit was the same after this.
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That kind of spooked the hell out of me and we took off at a
very fast pace. It was maybe close to 80° that
day and I had been warm, but I was freezing cold now and had
goosebumps. The woods opened up into a
Meadow area and I eventually gotwarm and calmed myself down.
I could see the maintenance shedon the property too, so it
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helped that I could see quote civilization again.
I never saw another person or the other person I thought I
saw. They could have gone a different
way at the trail intersection though in the parking lot and I
think my car was the only one. I thought it was interesting
that my dog never really reactedto any of this either, other
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than maybe just being alert. But no hackles came up, no
growling, no barking. He was pretty calm for the
borderline basket case Aussie that he is.
Later I spoke with someone who had worked at the park for a
while and was familiar with it. They told me the area of that
particular mound group, there are a couple of groupings on the
property. Made him feel uneasy and they
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didn't really like to have to gothere and I think they even said
they would try to avoid going alone.
I just chopped it up to maybe the land Vader land spirits
either not wanting to deal with people that day or being bored
and wanting to have a little bitof fun.
I've been on that trail several times before this incident and
nothing weird happened and I've been a couple times since after
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and nothing weird has happened but it still creeps me out when
I think about this. It's a beautiful park and when I
have time to go visit I do. I've taken a lot of other
friends there. I don't tell this story and they
all enjoy it. BG Thank you for sharing this it
that I was trying to compare it mine 'cause I'm like the flies.
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Yes, that immediately made me think of your incident with the
black flies, the swirly. Yeah, I.
Want to know mass? Yes, I want to know the
description. BG If you can write in again,
that would be wonderful because did it look like this big
massive softball sized mask justlike hanging in the air or was
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it just like a cloud of gnats ordid it look like flies?
You got to let me know because there's something to that and
that freaks me out and I would have spooped so hard knowing
that this is how far away my car.
Is, and this is what I'm seeing.Yeah, Yeah.
Well, yeah. And what?
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What? Yeah.
Or like an orange tone skin bulbthat's just.
That's really creepy. It is so creepy and I'm like
trying to rack my brain of what have I heard of before that
sounds like that to be like it'soh, it sounds like this thing,
but I've never heard of that andit's very creepy.
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And then you've got the rushing sound in the forest, you've got
the wind, you got the cold chills, the goosebumps.
You've got all the indications of something, something
paranormal, supernatural, Yeah. And they do talk about in
certain cultures like grave devourers, but like a lot of
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times when you think about that,you think of like a dog man
situation. But there are other entities out
there in folklore that do talk about that and other traditions
and cultures that do say that there are different types of
beings that do that. So it's were they digging for
something? Was it like an elemental?
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Was it a watcher? A protector?
So there's that too. But I mean, like, her being out
there with her dog doesn't really seem like anything that
would piss something off. But I don't know.
I don't know what the rules are of effigy mounds, but you
definitely shouldn't be climbingon top of them.
Nope, do not and probably don't even get close.
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I'm sure that sticking to the trails and stuff, that should be
fine, but you never know. And yeah, Pike's Peak, I have to
look into that. See what we I'm curious too
about the Ley line situation in that area too.
Yeah, anytime though you say effigy mounds, I'm like, oh,
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here we go. I know something.
Yeah, just like a trigger word. I'm like something's going to.
It's going to be a story for sure that.
Oh my God, Something about beingout somewhere remote when you
know there's not a lot of other people around too.
There's the human element. If you think it is a human that
you're seeing and all of a sudden you don't know where they
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went, you can't see where they've gone.
If it was a man, then you immediately have that sort of
heightened awareness and sense of dread because you don't know
if this person is watching you, stalking you.
So there's even that human element too, that's terrifying
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all the way around. Yeah.
Anyway, you throw that noodle onthe wall, it's sticking to
something creepy. Yeah, Yeah, that is.
But thank you BG, that was a great story.
Thank you for that. We freaking love you.
That gave me a lot of chills. And it's funny because it's.
Yeah, exactly. No, I was just going to say.
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And because of that also, it's like we've had a lot of tales
coming from the woods recently. I was going to say, Speaking of
the woods. We are going to shout out the
friend of ours, very funny guy named Pair.
He is a Swedish friend of ours and he has different videos on
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YouTube. He has the handle of Mr.
Swanglish and he roams around Sweden and talks about different
things. I highly recommend you check him
out. Very nice guy, very funny and he
actually is a mutual friend of ours and Nick and Jake's from
America's Scary Land too which is how we met pair.
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But recently he's been doing a lot of videos on YouTube that
are around his family's cabin. It's in the woods and he sent me
a video which you can find it onYouTube as well.
Go check him out. But he literally was not trying
to find anything. He just likes to roam around and
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tell stories and history from Sweden and in his area.
But he was walking by himself inthe woods.
I do not know the name of this woods yet.
I'm trying to get that from him because I want to study this a
little bit more. But in the beginning when he's
running through the woods, whichhe's not running at first, but
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he was at the end, it's basically this woods for a very
long time. There is an indigenous tribe in
Scandinavia called the Sami people, and the Sami have always
avoided this wooded area. So I definitely need to know
which one because it's said thatthere's a lot of spirits and
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evil entities that live in this woods.
So he's just giving some little fun facts while he's walking
through and at one point he getsscared by a grouse that was in
there and he's oh, nevermind. So that was really funny.
But what got me and him obviously was at almost the very
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end of the video. He was not prepared.
And I'm like trying to find out more because I will definitely
talk with you about what I thinkit sounds like.
We don't know how far away it isfrom him, but this isn't at
night. This is literally during the
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day, clear as day. The sun is out and it's shining.
So he was not prepared. I don't know how to describe
this, but like the tone, I guessyou could say that like how it
like dipped and came back up in the tone.
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It was very similar to the tone of the thing that I heard from
my family's land, except it was not high pitched like that.
It was like low guttural. Like it sounded like if you mix
a lion and an elephant and horseat the same time and they all
did their thing, but it was in that tone.
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So I'm like, what in the hell isthat?
Because he straight up said he'slike, this is nothing I've ever
heard in my life. And I'm like, OK, he knows the
woods. So very meat.
Suit. Mimic meat suit mimic girl.
But maybe you don't know. Or as they say on I think it was
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morbid. Is it morbid that came up with
it? Flush pedestrian.
Was it them? Yeah, it might have been.
Yeah, heck yeah. Thus I had to come up with my
own. So that's why I said meat suit
mimic. I like that we should use this.
Because they do. They try to.
Sometimes they'll try to fool you with mimicry and mimic
voices and other stuff. But you know what?
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We're talking about people. We aren't going to say the
actual words. No, we're not, because Nope, you
know what we're talking about. But yeah, yeah, so thank you,
Pair, for sharing that and definitely want to find out
more. So if you're listening to this
at the moment, get back to us, please.
That's the first time that he's ever caught anything like that
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on camera. Creepy.
Is so creepy. What an interesting mix of
stories we had this time. Yes, I was.
I was spooping but damn you guysgot bias.
Kleenex I'll be crying. It was a really awesome mix.
We can't tell you how much we appreciate you sending those
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into us. We would really love to do
listener tales more than once per year with this is our
special time of the year where we do this, but if we had some
more we would definitely. Oh, I'd love to do them.
Yeah, I'd love to do them at least once a month at least.
But yeah, we just need more listeners to be brave and send
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in stories. And we can always say anonymous.
You don't have to give. We don't have to say your name
on the show unless you want us to.
And they don't have to necessarily be paranormal
either. Whatever you want to send in.
But yeah. Oh these got me for sure.
On a scale of 1 to spooked, I'm on my second pair of pants.
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Yeah, the tears I did not expect, but yeah, the one story
is personal to my family. It's just going to flash from
one point where we're like we'regetting sad and then the next
point we have red face and like we weren't crying face.
We've recovered. We.
Didn't cry. Yeah, we didn't do it.
It never happened. But yeah, that's all we have for
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you for this Listener Tales episode, and we love you.
We appreciate you. Keep sending the stories.
Keep it real and keep it spooky.And we'll talk to you again very
soon. Very soon.
Until then though, have fun, be safe, be kind, and we will
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definitely be shocking you later.
Welcome back listeners. For those of you who are new,
what are you even doing with your life?
Welcome new people. Welcome Spooky.
For those of you who've been with us from the beginning, you
kind of know that we usually do a little banter because we never
see each other. We've seen each other one time
(00:20):
in person in real life, and we're about to make that #2 here
coming up real soon. I'm so.
Excited. So it's funny because you said
you're sort of lost your voice alittle bit.
I have a little tickle in my throat today too.
And so I don't know if I'm just residually experiencing your
symptoms from afar. Both going to start sounding
(00:42):
like Kermit the Frog. Hopefully not hopefully I can
get through but I do have a drinks.
Good, I know I'm chugging water.Whiskey is that whiskey remedy
that I'm. There you go.
And bourbon. I shouldn't say whiskey.
It's. Actually, bourbon, bourbon
whiskey, I don't know, I don't know what the rules are, but
(01:03):
it's technically a bourbon. So but yeah, welcome back.
This is another spooky season episode and this one is of
course, Listener tales, which weI've been excited to share with
you and thank you for everyone who sent in stories.
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Yes, thank you. There's plenty of spooky stuff
to talk about. There'll never really be a
shortage. But I really like hearing from
listeners because you and I, we both have our own stories and we
know pretty much know people whohave also had stories.
So we know they're out there. Oh heck yeah.
What keeps you up at night? Is it the Creek of floorboards
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when no one's home, the shadows that shift just outside your
bedroom door, or a sudden chill that makes you swear someone is
watching you? For centuries, people have
whispered about the things that disturb our sleep.
Phantoms drifting at the foot ofthe bed, strange voices calling
out in the dead of the night, even visits from loved ones long
(02:09):
since past. Some say these are just tricks
of the mind. Others believe they are proof
that death is not the end. Tonight's listener tales take us
deep into the world of sleeplessnights and restless spirits.
There are accounts of people whoswear they made contact with
something or someone on the other side, encounters that hint
(02:30):
at life after death, and folklore of cryptids that crawl
out of the shadows when the lights go out.
These aren't just ghost stories.These are experiences that left
people questioning reality itself.
So grab your blanket, keep the lights low, and maybe check
(02:51):
under the bed before you tuck yourself in tonight.
When you started with what keepsyou up at night?
I was like that is a loaded. Question that the cats, besides
the cats, the critter, where should we start?
I guess since we're talking about night time and sleep
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stuff. I have one for you.
Yes, it's very close to me, as in sleeps in the same bed with
me every single night. But yeah, so I think we have
talked about this before on the show about my partner has from
time to time had some sleep issues and had some experiences
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upon waking and sometimes while he's not asleep at all, hasn't
been asleep. And this one happened.
Oh, gosh, this is very recent. This.
I would say this is within the last 30 days, maybe 60 days at
most. Oh, Dang, yeah.
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And I didn't tell you about thisbecause I wanted to save it.
So basically what happened is wehad gone to bed and king size
beds. There's lots of space and the
room is fairly dark because I'm not someone who can sleep with a
bunch of lights on. I'm that person that if you have
like ATV in the room or anythingthat has some sort of, you know
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how they'll have a little light on it, that stuff will drive me
crazy. It's like Star Trek Enterprise.
Oh yeah. I have to cover it up.
So I have to, I have to have dark.
So the room is extremely dark and I get up in the middle of
the night to use the bathroom and we probably had only been
asleep for a few hours at most. And I, I come back to the bed
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and lay down. And then basically shortly after
I laid down, he pops up out of bed.
He's basically in an upright position.
And then he takes off What? And he's freak, he's freaking
out. Do you see that?
Do you see that? And I'm like, I can't see
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anything because it's totally dark in there.
And then I'm panicking because he basically took off running.
Yeah. And he's like, you don't see
that. And I'm like, no, I don't see
anything. It's OK Go back to bed or
whatever. You're fine.
And then I like, eventually he snapped out of it and he came
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back to bed. And I was like, what?
What's going on? What did you see?
Yeah. And he's.
I saw this old woman dressed in the Gray cloak, no arms, between
the bed and the wall, and he said she was on some sort of
tricycle. Like the stuff in horror movies
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basically. What the heck?
Said she was like if he went from floor to the height sitting
down. She's about is about four feet
tall. Does he ever hear anything with
these? He's never said that he hears
things. It's always visual, always very
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visual for him, and it's not theonly time that he's seen
something like that. Another time he saw something
under the bed pop up and crawl out and then pull back in under
the bed. I don't like that.
Yeah. So I don't know some contacts
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with that. I know that our minds do a lot
of things when we're asleep or we're in between wakefulness and
sleep. It can do messed up things to
you. So it's.
Yeah, he probably was just seeing something.
He was probably stuck in a dream, having experience.
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But the question that I always have, is there any truth to
that? Is it possible that when you are
in that state that you're just tapping into something that
exist in almost like a parallel dimension or a different realm?
Then what happens in our own, our own reality?
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Is it just making you tap into something like it's real but you
can't always see it? I don't know.
Yeah, it's creepy. It is so creepy and I could see
that your brain has to switch into a different mode to go into
dreaming anyway, So what if you are just stuck in that mode and
then you're able to see things? So my fiance at it's very
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similar. He has some things like that
every once in a while but it used to be way worse nightmarish
things way more often before. But this happened probably a
year after we started dating. I was spending the night and it
was completely dark in his room and he woke me up because he was
shaking in bed. And I turn over and he's looking
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at the corner where the bedroom door is, where the light switch
is the darkest part of the room.And he is shaking and pointing
in that corner and he's crying. Can you see?
This you see this. And I was like, no, what's going
on? At first I thought, OK, he's
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dreaming because he's also had those times where you think he's
awake and then he tells you, yeah, that Penguin smells like
beef or whatever. And you're like, sleep, just
going to stop asking questions and go with the fuck.
Yeah. But this time was different.
He had a clarity that was just he his eyes were wide open.
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He was sitting up in bed, and hewas just very distraught.
And I'm like, if you hate seeingthem like that as it is and
you're like, can you describe itto me?
And he's I don't want to, I can't, I don't want to.
And I'm like, OK, so I had to put on my big girl pants and go
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turn the fucking light up. So I'm going over the and I flip
the light on quick and I'm like nothing, see, there's nothing.
And I was like, OK. And then I like, rushed back
into bed and I'm like, do you still see it?
No, what if he was like, it's still there?
Oh my gosh, I would have probably shit my pants spooping
for real. That would have been a spoop
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moment. So literally the rest of the
night I had to read him a book 'cause he was that shaken.
Man. Never seen him like that before.
I was like all right negative energy so not allowed.
Don't know what it was and it can stay away.
And you know, it is possible forpeople to die from fear.
People have died from fright. Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, Your heart just goes into OverDrive.
And how many? What do they consider that when
you watch a scary movie, you burn enough calories?
It's like the equivalent of running a marathon or something.
Isn't that what? I've heard that before
somewhere, But I'm like. No, I think it definitely
accelerated heart rate. Probably they wrote compare it
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to a certain amount of like cardio exercise or something,
but I don't know how valid. It right Otherwise Can you
imagine? I'm going to go workout now.
Grabs movie off the ship. Yeah.
So I don't know. It's definitely the fear is real
in that moment, whether what you're seeing is real quote or
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not, it's real to you. It's definitely real to you.
But yeah, that's my first tale of terror.
Feel bad for him. Hopefully that goes away
eventually. He won't have to deal with that
forever. Because yeah, a lot of it can be
attributed to poor sleep schedule and long work hours and
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stress. And you can always chalk up a
lot of my sleep disturbances happen around stress.
So it is what it is. But yeah, it's just the question
is, are you opening the door to something that exists that you
just can't see in your waking hours?
I don't know. It's scary.
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Regardless, so it is. What's next, friend?
I'll tell you a short. One my mom comes back for this
one. So my mom submitted a story and
it's short, but it's very interesting.
When she was little, probably between 3:00 and 4:00, my
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grandma and great grandma, her mom and her grandma took her to
the cemetery. They were putting flowers on one
of our relatives's grave and they were trying to clean it up
and stuff like that. Well, my mom went off to another
part of the cemetery and was just like playing and my
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grandma, it like freaked her outso bad that she's just at least
she's occupied. Let's finish this up and get out
of here deal. When it was time to leave she
went over to my mom because she did not want to leave and she's
she kept telling me that she just wanted to get out of there
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because I kept looking back and like almost like she was
interacting with someone. And she was.
Screaming and crying that she didn't want to leave when it was
time to leave. And my grandma was like, I don't
think I'm going to bring you back the next time we have to
do. And she was how old at the time?
Between 3:00 and 4:00. OK, Yeah, that's the right age.
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Yeah. You hear that all the time of
people having their kids say creepy things.
And. We could probably do an episode
just on creepy stuff that kids say.
You really should. That would be a good episode
because Oh my God, some of the scariest stories come from kids.
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But yeah, my mom has. She had another story too, when
she was a little bit older and when she lived with my great
grandma. It was a very old house and in
the upstairs bedroom. It was a consistent thing and
she couldn't explain it, but in one side of her bedroom there,
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it looked like there were shadows of two people, a man and
a woman dressed in like Victorian clothing.
And it was like side profiles. And it looks like they like, it
looks like they were talking to each other.
And it was a shadow that was consistently on the wall.
And she got so freaked out, she tried like changing the lighting
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and stuff. It didn't go away.
So eventually. Yeah, and she's, I could not
sleep in there. It really freaked me out.
And I guess in order to just completely get rid of it, she
had to put posters all over the front of it.
Otherwise, it was still coming through everything else.
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What was the story about the house that she was in at that
time? Like how old it was?
Any history at all? Yeah, so it was built in the
8th. It was one of the first house
settlements in the area. When they had built the downtown
area, that was one of the first,like, residential areas.
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But besides that, we don't know.But mom always said that when
she lived in that house with my grandma that it just seemed off.
But in that room, she's. Yeah, you couldn't tell me
otherwise. The silhouettes look like this
shadow on the wall of these two people was very distinct.
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There was nothing in the room that was somehow.
Projecting the image. Yeah, so she's.
Yeah, I sold to this day. Can't explain it, but that house
was old and very creepy. I've remembered it when I was a
kid. I fell down those stairs.
Oh, no. Oh, yeah.
Explains a lot about me. Still clumsy to this day.
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Yeah, it does. Yes, I fell backwards.
No. Yeah.
And it was hardwood. Stairs, I fell downstairs, wood
stairs to the basement. So that probably explains a lot
about me. That explains a little about me.
OK, so Speaking of cemeteries, Ihave a similar one for you from
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Trish, one of our listeners. Trish sent in a lot of great
stories, some of which I'm goingto save for other episodes,
which Blair, you and I talked about the boot camp one.
I'm not going to give it away here, but we're covering that at
some point. My.
Gosh, yes, Trish, you freaking rock.
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Thank you. Very much Thank you.
So this one's it's short, but it's similar to the one that you
said about the three-year old version of your mom.
All right, so Trish said I I'm certain my son, as an infant,
interacted with the ghost of my grandma, his great grandma, when
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I took him to see her at the cemetery, I sat at her headstone
and cried until he started just doing those cute little baby
Coos and giggles looking up at the juniper tree over her grave.
Chills, chills, chills. I would sob and not.
I'd be a little creeped out, obviously, but if I had a kid
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that did that, I'd be like, Oh my gosh.
Yeah, and actually it was sent in by Trisha.
Sorry if I messed that up. Trisha, maybe you go by Trish.
Hopefully I didn't offend you, but it's from Trisha.
Trisha. Thank you.
Oh I would be spooping and like crying at the same time.
It's like in the field, so in the spine tingles.
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When you're in that moment and you're feeling that grief and to
have some sort of confirmation like that, to know and feel like
there's more beyond this, I think it's it's got to be, I
don't know, really special to feel that connection and be
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like, OK, that's yeah, it's OK. Like we go on and kids again are
just so impressionable and. They definitely, I feel, see
things that we don't for sure. Yeah, so we'll have to do that
maybe for a future episode. I think there's enough content
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to cover about creepy kids things, say, and then maybe some
more light hearted stuff. And yeah, so that one, that one
is another cemetery experience. Then I guess while we're on this
topic, I have a couple more stories for, I guess you could
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say proof afterlife or life after death, Proof of life after
death. Yeah.
I'm interested. Sound good?
OK, let's do this listener storysent in by a very special friend
of the show and longtime listener.
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We love you. This story comes from Amanda,
and that's all I'm going to. Say thank you Amanda for sending
this in you also. Freaking robbed.
Yes you do. All right, here goes.
In 2009, my 18 year old sister died from a drug overdose.
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I was living in Oklahoma at the time while all my family was
back in Illinois. Naturally, after finding out, I
immediately drove home to Illinois.
As you can imagine, the whole experience was devastating for
my entire family. I remained in Illinois for about
a month after the funeral, but eventually had to return to
Oklahoma due to work. When I returned to Oklahoma, I
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began drinking heavily. So this is where I'm not sure if
I was drunk or if something was actually happening.
I'm a very meticulous person, very routine oriented.
For example, if I open a cabinet, I shut it for a solid
month. When I would go into the
bathroom in the morning, the doors to my comments would be
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open. I'm not exaggerating when I say
I felt like I was going insane. I truly felt that it was my
sister messing with me. Finally one morning I had enough
and I yelled at the top of my lungs to stop fucking with me
and leave me alone. By God it stopped after that.
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I think about it a lot still. All these years later and if it
really was my sister, I wish I hadn't ran her off but on.
But the other side of my brain tells me no, you were just
flushed that entire time and probably just left the cabinets
open. My mom said she actually saw my
sister standing at the foot of her bed.
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I never saw her, but her and I always played pranks on each
other as kids so I wouldn't haveput it past her to mess with me
in the afterlife. Other than my mom, this is the
first time I've told anyone this.
Story And that's hard because it's like you are in such
emotional turmoil in that time and then to not know and to be
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annoyed because it's like 1 it is it freaks you out to have
something like that happen. And then you wonder after the
fact because yeah, I would I'd be really frustrated too.
I'd be like, dude, you need to freaking stop this.
I'm done with it. Stop it.
And then to just even think about it after the fact.
Did I just lose that connection?Yeah, yeah.
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And I replied to I replied say something similar and the way I
feel like it really was since they played pranks and jokes on
each other, I feel like that's like a funny way for them to be
like I can see how they could mess with you to be like aw
right, going to fuck with you. Feel like I'm still at it.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I am so.
Sorry truly for your loss. And for your family, I just hope
you're OK and we love you. And yeah, just wanted to say
that. Yeah, Amanda, you do freaking
rock and we really love you. And thank you so much for
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sharing this with us. I feel honored that you'd be
willing to share that vulnerableside with us.
So thank you. Thank you very.
Much and I have another one for a proof of life after death that
I can share with you as well. So we have a theme.
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I feel like this time I got several stories along the same
line. So Amanda, I hope this next
story also gives you some more. What's the word validation?
Maybe that these stories of proof of life after death gives
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you hope and gives you the sensethat you did have that
connection with your sisters. OK, this one comes from
Anonymous. I've had several supernatural
encounters in my life, from seeing full body apparitions to
smelling the faint scent of cigar smoke in a house where no
one has ever smoked before, to acloaked hooded figure dressed in
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all black. But the most positive encounter
I've ever had happened recently.My older brother and I were
really close. He was my person, the kind of
person you can always count on. There was a time after we got
older that we on the phone almost every single day.
He was a warm, kind and gentleman.
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I remember in one of our talks Itold him that if one of us
passed away before the other that we had to promise to try to
make contact with each other shortly after to prove that
there was something more and that we were OK wherever we
ended up. And he said if I can, I will.
Sadly my brother passed away notthat long ago.
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I grieve for him some days. When the phone rang I expected
to hear his voice on the other end, but then I had to remind
myself that he wouldn't be calling me anymore.
I thought about him every day and I still do.
Shortly after he passed, I was laying in my bed and sure
enough, I rolled over and there he was, sitting in the bed next
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to me. His face was flush rosy pink,
just like I remembered. He had a kind of glow about him.
He looked me right in the eyes, smiled big and leaned over and
kissed me on the cheek. And just like that, he was gone.
It was the most peaceful, joyfulexperience I've had within the
supernatural realm. My brother kept his promise and
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showed me proof of the afterlifethat.
Was awesome. Yeah.
Thank you, Anonymous. Patreon you guys get like.
Paying for some. Clean, get to see all the
redness, all the tears. Yeah, that one really got me.
Yeah. And those people will share the
story like that with someone andit's it gets so easily
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discounted by other people as oh, you're just we're seeing
things or you wanted to see him or whatever.
But the other part of this storyis this person, this the man in
this story. All right, so there's other
information that is important tothe story.
So for me to be able to tell youthe information that kind of
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adds to this, I need to be honest with you.
So the person is an anonymous. This person that told the story
was my mom. And that's why I think it hit a
little bit harder for me as thisperson was my uncle and this was
fairly recent. But what makes it even more
compelling is the fact that my uncle was a spiritual person, I
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will say, and I guess religious to you, but when I say
spiritual, he was someone who practiced astral projection very
regularly, especially when he was like in his 20s.
And so there's this story that Iknow of from my childhood.
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I have an older sister, she would have been three at the
time and we I think at the time she was living in the house that
I grew up in but it was like a multi level unit and she was
staying with my grandma because my mom was pregnant with me and
she had to be bedridden. So there was a day where my
sister went to my grandma and said grandma Uncle G came to
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visit and my grandma was like, why would he do My sister said
Uncle G came to visit and he kissed me on the cheek.
And my grandma's she got mad. She's why would he come visit?
He lives all the way in Kentucky.
Why would he come visit and not say anything?
And she called my uncle up on the phone and bitched him out
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basically and was like, why didn't why did you come by and
kiss Holly on the cheek and not come say hi to me?
And he was laughing because he'sI was there, but I wasn't there.
He told her that what he that hedid a national projection and
that he came to kiss my sister on the cheek.
And that was his way of showing that he was there and validating
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that he had been there. So for him to be able to tell my
mom, I promise I'll come see you.
And to kiss her on the cheek as his way of confirming that he
was really there just goes back to the same story of when my
sister was little. Yeah.
Yeah, that is so wild though. Yeah, yeah, that was a good one.
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Yeah, that was a good one. Man.
You hit me hard. You hit me.
It's been emotional this last couple weeks as it is with,
believe it or not, that kind of stuff here to, I don't know.
And yeah, I guess it's a big emotional time anyway, and
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things happen, but it's been a struggle just knowing that
there's going to be people that.That you would want to be there.
That can't be there, Yeah. Exactly.
And I've been, you know, how some people have like different
things like Cardinals or butterflies or things like that.
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I've just been seeing a lot of that in a weird way.
Yeah. Like last Monday, I was leaving
a restaurant after we got our marriage license and I there was
a monarch that was literally just like right up off my head.
And there's always the story about, oh, if a monarch is like
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hovering around you, it's supposed to send your loved.
One a message that kind of yeah and it.
Just would not go away. And it was the same thing.
One of my grandma's I believe isa yellow butterfly and I've seen
so many freaking yellow butterflies recently and it's
just, I don't know. I don't know.
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That's interesting that you say that because lately I have
picked, I've been doing some things too in the world of
meditation and different things like that.
And my symbol that I asked to see is a yellow butterfly.
Are you serious? Yeah, and I've been seeing a lot
of them. I don't even know what type of
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butterflies they are, but they're completely solid yellow.
Oh, that. Yeah, they're almost, they look
like butter, almost like the little.
Yeah, they're like this big. Yes, OK, we've been seeing the
same thing. That's insane.
I tell you what. No.
Well, I'm going to. Keep an eye out.
Yes, I'm going to keep an eye out at your wedding and just see
what I can see. Do it and honestly, I'm going to
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be a hot mess anyway I bet. But if I see one of my symbols
for one of my grandma's, I'm probably going to.
You're going to lose your shit. Yeah.
Yeah. But how awesome is it, though,
that you can make this arrangement?
I heard this one time on one of those ghost celebrity ghost
stories. I can't remember which actor,
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actress it was, but it was this similar story where they, I
think it might have been one of The Golden Girls.
Really. I think maybe, or it was that or
Carrie Fisher, I don't remember,but it was one of them that they
had made. Maybe it was Carrie Fisher's
best friend. They had made an agreement and
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the person did come to visit right after they died.
The hour of the phone, somethingto do with the phone calls, I
don't know. Anyways.
That's insane. This happens a lot.
So now I'm like, if you go first, if I go first, we need to
come see each other. We got to figure out I'm going
to show up as a woodchuck. No, I don't want to be a
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woodchuck. I don't want to be a woodchuck.
Please no. Yeah, I really believe that.
It's because gosh, IA couple years ago, my grandma, one of
my, I won't say which grandma, but the one grandma is
definitely a yellow butterfly. And I saw a yellow butterfly in
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November when there was snow on the ground, I shit you not, in
my yard. And I was having a hard day and
I was like, no shit, there's something to it.
Did I ever tell you about? Gosh, this was like 5 years ago
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now when I lived by myself. I was decorating for Christmas.
Oh, the music box. OK, yeah, that gives me chills.
Yeah, that gives me chills. For people that want to argue it
was a coincidence or some sort of fluke, like I understand,
especially if you've never witnessed it, but the fact that
it was a full week later to the day, I never wound that thing up
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after the fact. There would have been nothing
that set that off and it was just a few little twinkle
twinkles and yeah. Yeah.
This week is not sponsored by Kleenex, but I wish it was.
This episode yet? So it has brought Simpsons
especially. OK, what else have you got?
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I have a little kid story too, and this is with maybe haunted
house, maybe something else I'm going to.
This person wishes to remain anonymous though, so we shall
feel for real real. We won't give names so it says
hey ladies how's it going? So I'm trying to keep this short
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it's OK it's fine. I have a 2 year old nephew that
in recent months has started to yell goose and get really afraid
when running around the house. And for a while my brother and
his wife were like what the heckis this goose?
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I'm like yeah goose. But they started realizing that
when my nephew would go running into the kitchen he would stop
and immediately come running back out and yell goose, goose
like he was really upset. And then it started happening
when he would walk past the bathroom which is right off of
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their kitchen and they finally figured out what he was saying.
He was saying ghost, not goose, and he's never done this before.
He's been able to talk for a little while now and this has
just started happening. Something to note though, about
this house. When my brother and his wife
bought the house and moved in, they had some renovations to do.
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This would have been about four or five years ago.
In one of the UPS stores, in oneof the upstairs bedrooms where
my nephew now sleeps, there's a tiny door.
Oh no, not the tiny door. Whatever.
With tiny door. There's nothing good ever
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happens with a tiny door. Nothing ever.
If you are going house shopping and you see a tiny door, you.
It's a no. Yeah, it's a no.
You run or just be very preparedto be dealing with some shit
macabre public service announcement.
Anyway, So when my nephew was born and they got him all
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settled in that room, they decided to turn this little tiny
door cubby hole into a play roomfor him.
Like overt hideout. Who does that, right?
I don't know where movie. Oh my gosh, I'm just like
picturing you like roll the ballin and it rolls.
But I'm just anonymous. And ever since this whole thing
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with the Goose started, my nephew has refused to go in that
playroom at all and has always been hesitant.
My brother or his wife have to go in there and pull out toys
that he wants because he refusesto go in there.
No. And she said there's also a side
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note which I find is very interesting and part of this
issue. When my brother and his wife
first moved in, they had stuff go missing and not just like a.
It's in the tiny room. It's in the tiny room.
My gosh, Can you imagine? It's at the very back.
Just stop. All the missing things are just
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piled up against the wall. That'd be fucking awful.
Can you imagine that They'll. Oh yeah, I'm going in to get my
son his toy and there's your fucking spatula.
Nope. This is a This would be a great
scary movie, actually. Yes, I know.
Oh my gosh. Well, let's see, where did it
leave off? Oh, OK, so it wasn't just a
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moving thing either. Some items, random items would
go disappearing from random rooms in the house, be gone for
days, and then show up in another room in the house.
There is time to move. Yeah, exactly.
My gosh. And then Anonymous goes on to
say there's no way that one of them would have put some of
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those items in the one room, Like who uses this in the
bathroom type deal? So it's always been a thing that
they've shrugged off. But I'm not shrugging this off.
And now that my nephew is seeinggoose ghosts, that as funny
goose ghosts. But how terrifying Can you
imagine? Imagine this at night if you
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were haunted by a goose ghost and all of a sudden it is quiet
and you just hear in a random part in the fucking house.
I would rather it be a goose ghost than whatever is going on
in this situation. Same.
But Duke, what if the ghost goose that say that five times
fast could bite you? That would be awful.
Yeah. Anyway, sorry.
(37:16):
I'm sorry, Anonymous, we're not picking on you, but.
Instead of yanking the covers off of you in the middle of the
night, it's just a goose body. You're getting goosed by a
goose. You're getting goose by a goose.
Yep, you're bent over sleeping on your side.
Your fanny's hanging out it. Hurts so bad.
Hey, geese are nothing to mess with man.
(37:38):
No assholes they are. They can be.
They really can. They're aggressive, they are
looking for fights. So one as a ghost?
I can't even fucking imagine. I feel like that would be the
ghost that drove all the other ghosts out of your house.
Yes, sure, sure. Bully.
It's your bully. Sorry, Anonymous, Let's see.
(38:00):
Help make that less scary somehow it.
Really did It really did. So thank you, Anonymous's
nephew, for making the chills goaway at the end.
But yeah, just at the very bottom it says yeah.
So I don't know what they're going to do.
I don't know how long my nephew is going to be seeing this thing
or whatever it is, but I have a feeling this isn't the last that
(38:24):
I have heard of this. So if I find something else out
I will keep you posted. But until then, thanks ladies.
You guys are awesome and I love listening.
Thank you Anonymous. Yeah.
They should put some recording equipment up there maybe and see
what they can. And Anonymous, I'm sure you're
(38:46):
going to probably listen to thisepisode, maybe do some
investigation. I know you don't want to poke
the bear necessarily, but if it's happening anyway, it's just
maybe just felt like a recorder up there.
See what's going on? And then, yeah, I mean, you'd
hate you don't. Want to know?
Exactly because, Oh my Josh, it's are they able to sell their
(39:08):
house immediately if they don't like what they hear?
But that's the thing too. It's if your nephew is what,
too? And you don't really want to
keep asking them because you don't want to keep, like,
bringing it up and have it be something that's constantly on
their minds. But if all of a sudden this kid
is just, like, running into the kitchen and, like, turning right
(39:30):
back out, like, that's terrifying.
Or in the bathroom, it's. Oh, dude.
But no tiny doors. Yeah.
I think that house would be the house would be going up for.
Sale I think. Oh definitely definitely.
I feel like this makes me think of this now.
I'm sorry my brain is so random.We need to have a shirt of
(39:52):
macabre rules. Like horror movie rule?
Yes. Negative energy sounds loud.
No tiny doors. Oh.
Yeah. Oh, put that together.
But of all things, it's and thispoor playroom is in there in in
little room. And then imagine.
(40:13):
OK, I'm sorry. Now I'm like going off on this
thing because I'm like picturingthis as a horror movie now.
Wait, he's going to grow up a little bit.
It's going to be that teenage time where things are always
weird. And then that's going to be
weird in there. Yeah.
If you stay in that house, just get ready when that kid is 12
years old, might have a whole new set of activity.
(40:36):
I don't want to wish that on anyone.
But yeah, I don't know, maybe doa little cleansing or something.
Yeah. Thank you, Anonymous.
Really. Yeah.
No, I don't like that at all. All right, I have one more tale
from our listener, Melissa, and let me just say she did a great
job writing this. The way it's written is I just
(41:00):
love it. So I'm going to read it just as
exactly as she did. I'm probably going to maybe mess
up some of the slang because it is written with a different
dialect, but I'm going to do my best.
Thanks Melissa for writing in. Yeah.
All right. You ready?
(41:20):
Oh yeah. OK, for as long as I can recall
I was told stories by my family,a woven patchwork of Cherokee
legend stained by murderers and murderers and a superstitious
northern Alabama granny. Just off the four lane highway,
down winding roads of decaying shacks and churches and fields,
(41:43):
appears a small dirt and gravel Rd.
A small community of houses gives way to the comforting
front porch of my Granny and Papa.
The days were heavy with clinging heat that stifles your
breath, leaving you to porch sitearly in the morning and again
at dusk, never at night. Porches with paint blue ceilings
(42:03):
to keep the ghost away were a vantage point to ignore the
neighbor with the burned cross and suspicious robes in his
living room. Don't look outside at night.
Not for the human horrors that existed a mirror driveway away,
but for what crept deep in the woods near the Shirt Pit and
through the valley of Sand Mountain.
Sitting in the living room, the sound of a woman screaming
(42:26):
echoes over the episode of Unsolved Mysteries playing on
the TV. Everything outside grows still.
No longer are the goats and the chickens chattering, and even
the racist next door have grown still.
We go upstairs to the master bedroom under the heavyweight of
a quilt made by my ancestors. My granny's thick Southern draw
(42:47):
cuts the silence. I cannot do a Southern accent.
I'm so sorry. That's OK.
The Wampus Cat is out in the holler again.
She smells something awful, a disheveled Gray Halo of hair
hiding her expression. She continues.
Long time ago, a Cherokee woman named Running Deer, dressed in a
Mountain Lion skin hid in the woods to spy on a ceremony she
(43:10):
wasn't meant to see. She got found out, and she got
damned. Now she's in the woods, a woman
cat with green eyes. She screams in the woods and
kills the goats and chickens allaround.
Now may like you're sleeping andI'll close the windows
downstairs. I have heard of the Wampus Cat,
but I have never heard anybody'sstories about it.
(43:35):
Yeah, this is the first for me. I had never even heard of it.
So I did pull up a little bit ofinformation.
Just thought maybe I could sharethat with listeners just to give
it some more context but and maybe some of our listeners have
or haven't heard of it either. The legend of the Wampus Cat is
believed to originated with the Cherokee people.
(43:57):
According to one of the most common versions, a woman named
Running Deer, or sometimes just the wife of the hunter, wanted
to witness a sacred ceremony that was forbidden to women.
She disguised herself in the skin of a Mountain Lion and
crept into the woods to spy on the gathering.
When the medicine men discoveredher, they cursed her, condemning
(44:17):
her to live forever as 1/2 womanhalf cat creature.
This transformation made her a spirit of vengeance, doomed to
roam the forest, her scream a warning that death or misfortune
was near. Descriptions of the Lampas cat
vary, but she's usually said to be half woman, half cougar,
walking upright like a person but with glowing yellow or green
(44:41):
eyes that Pierce the darkness. Some say she is completely
covered in fur and has the face of a Panther or a bobcat.
Others describe her more as a spectral figure, shadow, like
more spirit than flesh. The Wampus cat's scream is a
signature part of the legend. People describe it as a woman's
(45:01):
scream, high pitched and blood curdling, so loud and chilling
that it can stop livestock in their tracks.
Harbinger of death, illness or bad luck?
Hearing it means something terrible is about to happen.
So I wonder if Melissa recalls what was happening around that
time. Because as the legend goes, when
(45:24):
you hear that sound, it foretells of some sort of
illness, maybe bad luck or deathin the family.
I'm curious, Melissa, you'll have to write in and let us know
if you remember anything happening around that time.
Yes, please do. Also, Melissa, are you a writer?
Because if you're not, you really should be.
(45:46):
And you have to publish this story, make this into a novel,
because this was super. Awesome.
Oh, this would this would be an incredible character for the one
that I was telling you, the historical piece that I wanted
to dig. This would be a great thing.
But yeah, you need to get on that.
(46:08):
You could probably put together like a whole bunch of legends
from your culture, your family history.
That would be really awesome. Yes, and I would like a copy.
Sign I would love to read it. Yes, please.
OK. So I have one more listener tale
for you. And do you have any others or is
this? I have tears.
(46:30):
OK, we can do that next. That'll fit in perfect with.
This excellent. All right.
OK. OK.
So our next story comes from BG and she says this happened in
2020 I think. I can't remember the exact date
or even the month. I'm thinking it was late spring
(46:50):
or summer. Anyway, I took my dog for a walk
at Pikes Peak State Park near McGregor on my afternoon off.
It was later in the afternoon. Beautiful sunshiny, calm day.
We were halfway or a little overhalfway on our hike and we're
approaching a mound group. As in Effigy Mounds.
The Effigy Mounds National Monument isn't that far away.
(47:14):
The mounds overlook the Mississippi.
As we were approaching the moundgroup, I could see what looked
like a shirtless bald guy and where he was would have been
standing on top of one of the mounds, which was pretty
disrespectful in my humble little opinion.
But it was 2020. People forgot how to people.
(47:34):
There was a lot going on back then for sure.
There was some underbrush so I could really only see him from
mid torso up. I remember that he also had a
weird skin tone color, like the orange of a fake tan almost.
I was looking at my dog and making sure I had a good hold on
his leash and shortening up as he loves people, but not all
(47:58):
people love dogs, and you have to respect that.
And he also likes to bark and beloud.
Anyway, as we get closer to the mounds, there was no one around.
It opens up there so you can seeinto the woods.
No one was around, or at least Icouldn't see anyone.
And you can see through the trees for a little ways and even
to the trail further down the way.
(48:20):
That made me a little nervous. So we started walking faster
because the parking lot was maybe 15 to 20 minutes away,
depending on the pace. Oh, no.
This. Yeah, this is not as busy of a
trail as some of the other trails by the main gate, so I
didn't usually see anyone when Iwould hike there.
I felt like the mood had shiftedfrom fun and light to more
(48:42):
foreboding, but that could have also been just me.
We got to an intersection with the trail taking us back to the
parking lot and I ended up walking through a cloud of bugs.
I think it was the stupid gnats and swallowed a couple.
I hate that. I've been there too.
I'm so sorry. Yeah.
As we started into, I'm telling you, there's something wrong
(49:05):
with me today, OK? As we started into the next
segment, I could hear what sounded like something huge.
I'm thinking a cow or a bull or something.
I grew up on a farm. That's what it reminded me of,
crashing through the underbrush super fast towards us.
I got scared. There's really nowhere to go.
(49:27):
It was coming fast too. I could see the leaves moving on
the shrubby trees. I think I've been over to either
grab my dog or shield him. I'm not sure what the hell my
thought process was there. It probably should have been to
run. But anyways, a strong gust of
wind blew right over us. It really hadn't been much more
than a light breeze all day, andit was the same after this.
(49:50):
That kind of spooked the hell out of me and we took off at a
very fast pace. It was maybe close to 80° that
day and I had been warm, but I was freezing cold now and had
goosebumps. The woods opened up into a
Meadow area and I eventually gotwarm and calmed myself down.
I could see the maintenance shedon the property too, so it
(50:12):
helped that I could see quote civilization again.
I never saw another person or the other person I thought I
saw. They could have gone a different
way at the trail intersection though in the parking lot and I
think my car was the only one. I thought it was interesting
that my dog never really reactedto any of this either, other
(50:34):
than maybe just being alert. But no hackles came up, no
growling, no barking. He was pretty calm for the
borderline basket case Aussie that he is.
Later I spoke with someone who had worked at the park for a
while and was familiar with it. They told me the area of that
particular mound group, there are a couple of groupings on the
property. Made him feel uneasy and they
(50:56):
didn't really like to have to gothere and I think they even said
they would try to avoid going alone.
I just chopped it up to maybe the land Vader land spirits
either not wanting to deal with people that day or being bored
and wanting to have a little bitof fun.
I've been on that trail several times before this incident and
nothing weird happened and I've been a couple times since after
(51:21):
and nothing weird has happened but it still creeps me out when
I think about this. It's a beautiful park and when I
have time to go visit I do. I've taken a lot of other
friends there. I don't tell this story and they
all enjoy it. BG Thank you for sharing this it
that I was trying to compare it mine 'cause I'm like the flies.
(51:47):
Yes, that immediately made me think of your incident with the
black flies, the swirly. Yeah, I.
Want to know mass? Yes, I want to know the
description. BG If you can write in again,
that would be wonderful because did it look like this big
massive softball sized mask justlike hanging in the air or was
(52:09):
it just like a cloud of gnats ordid it look like flies?
You got to let me know because there's something to that and
that freaks me out and I would have spooped so hard knowing
that this is how far away my car.
Is, and this is what I'm seeing.Yeah, Yeah.
Well, yeah. And what?
(52:31):
What? Yeah.
Or like an orange tone skin bulbthat's just.
That's really creepy. It is so creepy and I'm like
trying to rack my brain of what have I heard of before that
sounds like that to be like it'soh, it sounds like this thing,
but I've never heard of that andit's very creepy.
(52:53):
And then you've got the rushing sound in the forest, you've got
the wind, you got the cold chills, the goosebumps.
You've got all the indications of something, something
paranormal, supernatural, Yeah. And they do talk about in
certain cultures like grave devourers, but like a lot of
(53:15):
times when you think about that,you think of like a dog man
situation. But there are other entities out
there in folklore that do talk about that and other traditions
and cultures that do say that there are different types of
beings that do that. So it's were they digging for
something? Was it like an elemental?
(53:38):
Was it a watcher? A protector?
So there's that too. But I mean, like, her being out
there with her dog doesn't really seem like anything that
would piss something off. But I don't know.
I don't know what the rules are of effigy mounds, but you
definitely shouldn't be climbingon top of them.
Nope, do not and probably don't even get close.
(54:03):
I'm sure that sticking to the trails and stuff, that should be
fine, but you never know. And yeah, Pike's Peak, I have to
look into that. See what we I'm curious too
about the Ley line situation in that area too.
Yeah, anytime though you say effigy mounds, I'm like, oh,
(54:26):
here we go. I know something.
Yeah, just like a trigger word. I'm like something's going to.
It's going to be a story for sure that.
Oh my God, Something about beingout somewhere remote when you
know there's not a lot of other people around too.
There's the human element. If you think it is a human that
you're seeing and all of a sudden you don't know where they
(54:48):
went, you can't see where they've gone.
If it was a man, then you immediately have that sort of
heightened awareness and sense of dread because you don't know
if this person is watching you, stalking you.
So there's even that human element too, that's terrifying
(55:09):
all the way around. Yeah.
Anyway, you throw that noodle onthe wall, it's sticking to
something creepy. Yeah, Yeah, that is.
But thank you BG, that was a great story.
Thank you for that. We freaking love you.
That gave me a lot of chills. And it's funny because it's.
Yeah, exactly. No, I was just going to say.
(55:30):
And because of that also, it's like we've had a lot of tales
coming from the woods recently. I was going to say, Speaking of
the woods. We are going to shout out the
friend of ours, very funny guy named Pair.
He is a Swedish friend of ours and he has different videos on
(55:51):
YouTube. He has the handle of Mr.
Swanglish and he roams around Sweden and talks about different
things. I highly recommend you check him
out. Very nice guy, very funny and he
actually is a mutual friend of ours and Nick and Jake's from
America's Scary Land too which is how we met pair.
(56:13):
But recently he's been doing a lot of videos on YouTube that
are around his family's cabin. It's in the woods and he sent me
a video which you can find it onYouTube as well.
Go check him out. But he literally was not trying
to find anything. He just likes to roam around and
(56:34):
tell stories and history from Sweden and in his area.
But he was walking by himself inthe woods.
I do not know the name of this woods yet.
I'm trying to get that from him because I want to study this a
little bit more. But in the beginning when he's
running through the woods, whichhe's not running at first, but
(56:54):
he was at the end, it's basically this woods for a very
long time. There is an indigenous tribe in
Scandinavia called the Sami people, and the Sami have always
avoided this wooded area. So I definitely need to know
which one because it's said thatthere's a lot of spirits and
(57:16):
evil entities that live in this woods.
So he's just giving some little fun facts while he's walking
through and at one point he getsscared by a grouse that was in
there and he's oh, nevermind. So that was really funny.
But what got me and him obviously was at almost the very
(57:37):
end of the video. He was not prepared.
And I'm like trying to find out more because I will definitely
talk with you about what I thinkit sounds like.
We don't know how far away it isfrom him, but this isn't at
night. This is literally during the
(58:00):
day, clear as day. The sun is out and it's shining.
So he was not prepared. I don't know how to describe
this, but like the tone, I guessyou could say that like how it
like dipped and came back up in the tone.
(58:22):
It was very similar to the tone of the thing that I heard from
my family's land, except it was not high pitched like that.
It was like low guttural. Like it sounded like if you mix
a lion and an elephant and horseat the same time and they all
did their thing, but it was in that tone.
(58:46):
So I'm like, what in the hell isthat?
Because he straight up said he'slike, this is nothing I've ever
heard in my life. And I'm like, OK, he knows the
woods. So very meat.
Suit. Mimic meat suit mimic girl.
But maybe you don't know. Or as they say on I think it was
(59:10):
morbid. Is it morbid that came up with
it? Flush pedestrian.
Was it them? Yeah, it might have been.
Yeah, heck yeah. Thus I had to come up with my
own. So that's why I said meat suit
mimic. I like that we should use this.
Because they do. They try to.
Sometimes they'll try to fool you with mimicry and mimic
voices and other stuff. But you know what?
(59:33):
We're talking about people. We aren't going to say the
actual words. No, we're not, because Nope, you
know what we're talking about. But yeah, yeah, so thank you,
Pair, for sharing that and definitely want to find out
more. So if you're listening to this
at the moment, get back to us, please.
That's the first time that he's ever caught anything like that
(59:53):
on camera. Creepy.
Is so creepy. What an interesting mix of
stories we had this time. Yes, I was.
I was spooping but damn you guysgot bias.
Kleenex I'll be crying. It was a really awesome mix.
We can't tell you how much we appreciate you sending those
(01:00:16):
into us. We would really love to do
listener tales more than once per year with this is our
special time of the year where we do this, but if we had some
more we would definitely. Oh, I'd love to do them.
Yeah, I'd love to do them at least once a month at least.
But yeah, we just need more listeners to be brave and send
(01:00:38):
in stories. And we can always say anonymous.
You don't have to give. We don't have to say your name
on the show unless you want us to.
And they don't have to necessarily be paranormal
either. Whatever you want to send in.
But yeah. Oh these got me for sure.
On a scale of 1 to spooked, I'm on my second pair of pants.
(01:01:00):
Yeah, the tears I did not expect, but yeah, the one story
is personal to my family. It's just going to flash from
one point where we're like we'regetting sad and then the next
point we have red face and like we weren't crying face.
We've recovered. We.
Didn't cry. Yeah, we didn't do it.
It never happened. But yeah, that's all we have for
(01:01:21):
you for this Listener Tales episode, and we love you.
We appreciate you. Keep sending the stories.
Keep it real and keep it spooky.And we'll talk to you again very
soon. Very soon.
Until then though, have fun, be safe, be kind, and we will
(01:01:43):
definitely be shocking you later.
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