Whether we like it or not, change is an ever-present facet of church life. Clergy and community members come and go, buildings arise and decay, ministry priorities shift. But even when change is healthy and necessary, it can still bring anxiety. So the question arises: when the anxiety and disorientation of change comes up, how can church communities remain open to divine presence and stay true to their faith? Plymouth member Rev. Mary Kay Sauter has helped many church communities through times of profound change as an Interim Minister in the United Church of Christ. We talked about the difference between decision making and discernment, and the spiritual work of seeking God in the liminal space of change.
Referenced in the episode is Susan Beaumont's book, How to Lead When You Don't Know Where You're Going.
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