Being a Rabbi in a Time of Rampant Antisemitism & Israel Under Threat with Rabbi Pinchas Allouche

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And we're live, and are we live or is it memorys?
Hang on, let's just go over here. You know this
whole camera set up thing there you go telling you
guys Erica, I am so happy it's not util I
start to show this happy. Okay, I just I just
found out that Rosy O'Donnell self deported to Ireland, so you.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Can Donald is still a thing.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Sorry, well he's self deported Ireland. I mean, look, you
can you know, you can say Trump hasn't done this
or he's done that, but but you know, I would
judge that his presidency is already a success. It wrote
Donald self deported Ireland. Does it get better than that?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I know I would like it if Megan Markle's self
deported to Ireland.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
No, no, she'd have to go to England. England I
wanted to stop showing up in my feed. They probably
wouldn't let her in, so she might have to go
to Ireland, maybe Scotland.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I don't know how you can give up your royal
whatever and be like I don't want you anymore, but
you need to call me the Duchess of Sussex like
bro inner, your in or you're out.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Okay, you pick, you pick, So it's it's a good
it's a good day in America. Let's let's roll them,
because ladies and gentlemen, we have a very special guest,
Rabbi Alosh Pinkus a Loosh, is here to talk about
the rise not only in Israel, but the anti Semitism
here and the backdrop of the religious war in this country,
if not the world. Yes, let's roll him. Hello, and

(01:50):
welcome to of the people. Take off the masks. That's
right time to take off the masks. You march, you chant,
you hold your signs high, your fists are clenched, and
your video and your voices are raised, and you say
you're fighting for something justice, freedom and change. But when

(02:13):
I look at all of you in masks, all I
see are masks, black masks, red masks, skulls, scarves, hiding
your faces and concealing who you are. So I have
to ask, if you truly believe in what you're standing for,
why are you hiding? If your cause is just, if

(02:34):
your convictions are strong, why cower behind a piece of
cloth like a thief in the night. You see, Real
courage isn't found in the anonymity of the crowd. Real
courage isn't setting fires, breaking windows and disappearing into darkness.
Real courage, real manhood, is standing up, showing your face

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and saying, this is who I am, this is what
I believe in. And the great movements of history weren't
led by cowards in disguise. Martin Luther King Jr. Did
not hide behind a mask. He stood on the steps
of the Lincoln Memorial and let the world see his
face and hear his voice. And the Founding Fathers didn't

(03:20):
wear disguise either when they sign their names to the
Declaration of Independence, and they risked everything. They risked it openly, boldly,
because they knew what they stood for. But all of
you in masks, you skulk around in the shadows. You
call yourselves warriors, but you refuse to be seen, and
you demand change, but you're too afraid to put your name,

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your face, and your reputation on the line. So if
you really mean what you say, if your cause is
so righteous and so, just then take off the mask,
look America in the eye, and declare your beliefs without fear,
because otherwise you're just another coward playing pretend, a phantom
of the night. Who vanishes when the sun comes up. Look,

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history remembers those who stood with their faces uncovered, who
bore the weight of their convictions without fear. But you,
all of you and mask, you are nothing but a
spineless coward, a gutlass fraud who hides behind a mask
like a rat that scurries into the dark. You know
you scream for justice, but you lack the backbone to
stand in the light. And you pretend to be a warrior,

(04:29):
which I find offensive because real warriors don't cower behind fabric.
They own their fight, They take responsibility for their actions.
You want to destroy, to intimidate, and to tear down
what others have built, but you don't even have the
balls to show your face while you're doing it. It's pathetic.

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If you can't take off the mask and stand by
your beliefs like a man, then you're not a protester,
you're not a fighter. You're just a faceless coward, a
disgrace to everything that this country stands for. And that's
the monologue.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
That was heavy and true. A bunch of little baby
sissy people.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Well, you know the fight is engaged, and if you
don't acknowledge, so Hillel Fold, who is also been a
friend of the show, basically says that there is a
war going on by ideology, and if American Israel doesn't
acknowledge that, then we're losing the battle. But ladies and gentlemen,
I want to introduce you a very special guest and
a heart connection of mine, Rabbi pink Iss Solution from Scottsdale, Arizona,

(05:38):
A huge part of Israel Appreciation Day, our spirit our
spiritual rudder, Rabbi Alush. It is indeed my pleasure to
welcome you of the people.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Thank you so much. It's such a pleasure being with you,
both of you.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well. Everyone always likes Erica better. That's okay.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I was going to say a little more with Erica,
but with you two rob it.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
You know, you know I'm an acquired taste. What can
I tell.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
You that's not true? I love it.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
So I want to start, you know so, Rabbi, you
have been so vocal and so about spoken in defense
of Israel and the rising anti Semitism here, But I
want to start with something a little different. I referenced
to l Fold, who are friends of both of ours,
that basically said that, you know, it's a war of
ideologies that's going on. It's not just about anti senitism,

(06:28):
and I know you spoken to that. But my question
is this, is there a fundamental incompatibility of values between
Islam and Judeo Christian values upon which the West was founded?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Good question, it's.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
A great question.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
There are some fundamental differences, but I do think that
there are also many common points. In fact, if you
look at history, Jews and Muslims got along for many centuries.
And I think that we got along because we do
have some common values, like the belief in what belief
in one God.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Like at the many prayers we have per day. Muslims
have five, we have three.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Even some of the food is very much alike. So
we do have many commonalities. But there are fundamental differences,
especially with sects of Islam that have not only become extreme,
I have become I would say insane and maybe even dangerous.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
And that makes sense to Yeah, I'm glad that you
talked about the common overlap and obviously the common ancestry
from you know, from the offspring of Abraham, right, So
I mean obviously there's a there's a common lineage as well.
So one of the reasons I wanted to bring this
up is there is a gallop pull out maybe you've seen,

(07:58):
but and it's recent, It was last week that basically
says that support for Israel in this country is for
the first time below fifty percent. And the problem with
that is not just the numbers, is that it's trending
in that direction, and support for the Palestinians or Hamas
or and or two state solution, while it's only thirty

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five percent give or take, is also an all time high.
How did we get here? Right? I mean, how did
we get to this place in America? I mean Israel
is a related conversation but slightly different, which I want
to get to in a second. But how did America
get to this place? Well?

Speaker 3 (08:40):
I have my own theories.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
First and foremost, I think it's because of complete lack
of education, of ignorance. People today get the news from
TikTok and Instagram and they don't really rely.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
On facts and on truth. So that certainly is a
big factor.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
But I would go even deeper, and I would say
that it is also reflective of the godless society that
we live in, because when we live in a society
that is God centered, that is God anchored, then we
must follow also the word of God and the values
of God, where it is very clear what God thinks

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of Israel and the Jewish people, and where it is
very clear that there is no room for lies fabrications
that we hear all the time.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I've wondered, going along and following up with your question, Robert,
I've wondered if you know what seems like the United
States hamstringing Israel's response to October seventh. And I could
be wrong, but it does seem like the US has
kind of hindered them. And I wonder if the length

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of time of war basically of is why people are
starting to lose interest, because there's there's just a rising
anti war sentiment in this country. And do you think
that it's related or do you think it's specific to Israel.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
That's another great question.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
I do think that that's yet another theory that I
really believe in, and that is that we've tried to
find this moral equivalence between all sides when it should
be very very clear that good is good and evil
is evil, and people like murdering, raping, mutilating children, women,

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innocent people.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Is evil. There is no justification for it.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
But today we live in a society where we try
and be politically correct, and we try to excuse evil
or even legitimize it when it is fundamentally wrong. I
don't care how a terrorist grew up and whether whether
he was given you know, luxury or poverty as part

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of his social fabric, but that will not excuse, not
even a tiny bit his terrorist activities.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I'm sorry. Evil is evil.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
It has to be recognized as such and has to
be completely eradicated. There is no room for moral equivalents
when it comes to evil.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
And the moral equivalents. Even on October seventh and Erica,
I actually think there is sort of a fatigue factor,
which is, I think what you're talk what you're what
you're talking about? Yes, too common to common stated number
number one. War is supposed to be ugly for a reason, right,
you don't want it, so therefore it should be you know,
it should be executed or or conducted as quickly, and

(11:47):
you need to define what victory looks like. Right, No
one wants a protracted war forever. But rab I want
to go back to something that you said, which which
is just the use of the term evil has been
take out of theleracular because you're not supposed to call
anything evil because, as you said, I think you use
the word moral equivalents. Right. One man's terrorist is another

(12:07):
man's freedom fighter. Right. That is the that started in
the sixties and the seventies, at least in this country, right,
with sensitivity training or whether it was st or life
springs or those kinds of things. But there really is
evil in the world, is there or not? And if
you can't call it evil, how do you expect to
fight against it?

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Exactly? I think that's very, very very well said.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
In order to fight evil, in order to eradicate evil,
one must first recognize it. And if we can't recognize
it with utmost clarity, then we can't fight it either.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
And not only can.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
We not fight it, but then it will allow evil
to blossom, develop itself, to almost take over you know,
children who are being used in order to defend terrorists
as evil. Raping woman is evil, a Murdering innocent people

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is evil. Kidnapping people is evil. We must call evil
evil otherwise we'll, like you so beautifully said, we'll never
be able to fight it. And certainly you will never
be able to to try and eradicate it.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, and that goes back to your point about a
godless society, right. You know, I'm not saying, you know,
you can't know right from wrong, good from evil without
knowing God. But it definitely hinders your ability to justify
bad behavior.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
You know, I am very clear with are you being
nice about that? Erica? Oh?

Speaker 2 (13:47):
I know, I am very clear when I'm being sinful,
it is not a question. And I may be willfully
sinning and that's not a good thing, but you know
it's ah, I think you know that has been you know,
my thing recently is you know, I've been talking about

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you know, politics and trying to teach people about conservative
values and why it matters. But ultimately, if I can
just bring them to the Lord, all of those other
problems get worked out in over time, and so I
just yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
No, that's that's a very good point.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
I will also say that in Judaism we speak about
two types of sins or two types of good deeds,
now sins versus God me versus God alone, and those
are sins that perhaps are less grave than the sins
towards others. Others what we call benadame lachaverro. The person

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versus his friend or his neighbor. Those sins are are
worse because they bring destruction to humanity, especially if they
include the evil that were speaking about. Look for me,
this is also a very personal issue. I have a
beloved son who's nineteen years old, it's twenty now, and

(15:17):
he's been fighting on the front lines in the IDF
since the beginning of the war. He's had friends killed
right next to him, and he himself dodged quite a
few bullets, not just in Gaza, but also in Lebanon
and also in Syria. And when I asked him, just

(15:37):
to make this point, when I asked him, if I
may be the devil's advocate here, what differentiates you and
the terrorists that you're fighting against.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
After all, you're both fighting.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
For your countries, for your people, and both using maybe
even the same rifles.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
What's the main difference?

Speaker 4 (15:57):
And he says something that I'll never get He said,
First up, as you know, we are using missiles and
rifles to defend our children. That are using children to
defend their missiles and muffled. That's number one, when the
but two, it's also in the intention. When I should
a bullet, my prayer before shooting it is that there

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should be peace in the world so that I would
not have to be killing anybody. When they should a bullet,
their prayer is how many people can I, please God kill?
Let me bring as much destruction as possible. And I
think that says it all. That really says it all.
And I know that my son is speaking on behalf

(16:45):
of all of those idea of soldiers, all of the
American soldiers too, that really stand for good and that
are fueled by God and by His values as opposed
to the other side, the evil side.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
So Rabbi, there is also first of all, as truthful
and is moving as I've ever heard. So thank you
for that. I'm but because we have a podcast, because
I'm almost speechless, but because we your with what you
just said. It was it was so powerful. But I
want to keep this moving. There is a genocide going
on in Syria where they are where they are trying

(17:23):
to eliminate all the Christians in Syria. Why doesn't the
world care or report on it? And I'm not asking you,
as you that you would have the ultimate answer to that.
I'm obviously just asking your opinion, But there there are
certain things that I just have such a difficult time
wrapping my head around. You know, we say, right, obviously,
no Jews, no news. I mean obviously, and that's sort

(17:44):
of you know, it's it's somewhat sarcastic we reference that
to it, but there's some truth to it. There is
a genocide going on in Syria, and the world by
and large doesn't report and or doesn't care. I don't understand.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Yeah, that's the double standard that we see so often.
And that's how you know when people are driven by
anti Semitism or not. If they focus solely on the Jew,
then you know what the motive is. That's pretty clear
to me, and it should be pretty clear to the
world too.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
No. I understand you've also been very outspoken and very
active in this country. You're in Scottsdale. I know that
you recently address the Arizona legislature about a bill that
they put forward. Right, what was in that bill and
what's the outcome of the bill? Has it been voted on?

(18:39):
Because it really has to be state by state. The
federal government you cannot, well, first of all, legislation will
only go so part, but the legislation also has to
be state level because federal level is impossible. Moving force
and moving hearts and minds is state by state.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
That's right, absolutely, and we've been successful thus far with
passing this bill through the Education Committee, and as you know,
there are many more steps following this. But the antisemitism
bill that we are putting forth is a bill that
will penalize any display of anti semitism in classrooms from

(19:15):
K through twelve and hopefully we're adding an amendment through
college years also. And what this means that any person
teacher or student or staff member that either speaks anti

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semitism or acts antisemitically will be penalized up to the
point that a teacher can have is or her license revoked,
Students can be expelled from schools.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
They could also be.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Fines and other types of punishments that are executed against
those who act antisemitically. I have to add, I mean,
it's a pity that we need to build to ban
these types of behaviors because it should be common sense
and it should be part of our fabric, of the

(20:13):
fabric of society, of our morals, of our values. But unfortunately,
as this past year or maybe even more, has shown
we have people that are really standing up for evil.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
To use that word again, and I'm using it or not.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
And I will tell you I have students I'm blessed
with many, many students have been a teacher besides being
a rabbi, teach just a few hours a week at
the local Jewish day school year and I'm in touch
with many students and many congu gants obviously, and I
can tell you that some of them have been attacked,

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not just verbally, but even physically attacked just for being Jewish.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
And it trained me to no end.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
So I want to play clip for you though, because
we have a clip when you address the Arizona legislature
and I want to get your take on this. So
if you don't mind, it's a quick clip, So Erica,
just roll this clip for rebolution. Obviously, our viewers.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
A state, make no mistake about it. Anti Zionism is
anti Semitism. Let me clarify, criticizing Israel isn't anti semitism.
It's part of the democratic process. In Israel, unlike many
of its neighbors, is a democracy, but genocidal chance A
free Palestine rivet to the sea. Any silent or verbal

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support of terrorist groups and actions, an any attack on
Israel's very right to exist, on nothing but pure evil,
disgusting and intolerable anti Semitism, because at the very core
of these claims lies the inability of people to make
space for that which is different.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
As darkness despies its light, and as evil.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Hates good, they too cannot stand the existence of the other.
And because we are different, the hate that begins with
Jews never ends with Jews. This is why this is
not just a fight that Jews must lead. This must
become everybody's fight, including yours. Does encourage you, mister Chairman,
and members of the Committee, everything in your power to

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eradicate this cancer from our society.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
A very powerful speech, But what I wanted to focus
on was the woman sitting behind you, and obviously you
know the faces, the disdain. I mean, it was a
what a visual right to see you make such a
powerful and honest, heartfelt speech about you know, it's sort

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of not to put you on that pantheon, but the
Martin Luther esque Martin Luther King Junior esque, right, It's
it was that encompassing. And yet there was someone behind you,
this one behind you, and I think the gentleman to
her left as well, who were beyond disrespectful. They were
they were I mean, what was all that? Give us

(23:04):
some context? Because I watched that in preparation for you
coming on as a guest, and I have to tell
you it it broke my heart to see that. Not
that people aren't entitled to different opinions, I understand that
reasonable people can disagree, but that to me goes at
the heart of what we've been talking about, which is
this war of ideologies of good versus evil.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Right.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
You know, it's quite ironic because I was speaking about
the dignity of difference and how we ought to respect
the differences and different opinions in others, and she.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Was displaying the exact opposite.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
So that actually helped my cause, and it helped it
more than I could have even imagined. I'll tell you
as a scoop that a member of the committee came
up to me thereafter and he mentioned that you should
know that there was a member of the committe, another
member of the committee who was on the fence and
exactly know how to vote, whether she should vote for

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this bill or against this bill, and when she saw
the behavior of this woman who was sitting behind me,
she said, Oh, it's quite clear now that I have
to vote for this bill because these people really don't
want don't want to respect anyone that's different. They just
want to impose their views, their anti semitism on others.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
So it helped my cause. I was quite happy about that.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Looks, as we know from from the media that you
have these protesters that come and disrupt and shout all
of these just just terrible, only anti Semitic slogans, and
they sometimes even become violent.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
But I will tell you I wanted to to us.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
I think that in many ways it shows the truth
face and people right that just like that member of
the committee.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, that actually interestingly enough, short story that happened to
me several years ago. I was I would call myself
a liberal. Back then, I was, you know, not super
religious or anything like that. And I went to a
conference called Politicon and it was, you know, all politicians
and politics and whatever. And I remember watching a debate

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between Anna Kasparian and Ann Coulter and you know, and Culter, Oh,
she's the worst person on earth. Now, I don't know nowadays,
But back then she's the worst person on earth and
Anna Kasparians the good guy, right. But the Casparians fans
were such buttholes, and they were so rude. And I
was like, look, if this woman is so awful, it

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will come out in her words and deeds. I don't
need you to make a big show. You look like dumb.
You look dumb. So that's good it show your face
like that exactly what you said. Just show it. We
love it. Let everybody see it.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
You mean, like, take off the mask, like I said
in the monologue, show you. I mean, if your cause
is righteous, then why are you hiding? Show your face.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
That's yes, that's yes, I agree, Rabbi.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Last question, I know your time. I know your time
is limited. One of the other concerns here is obviously
what's going on in Israel and what's going on in
the Middle East. And I want to say so, there
was an article where the Saudi embassadent I'm sorry, one
of the one of the aids to the king, basically
said that Trump is leading a new world order of

(26:40):
peace and cooperation and really reorienting the Middle East. Right,
And there obviously was a conversation or a thought process
that before October seventh, because the Abraham Accords had really
changed the dynamic and the paradigm. That was one of
the reason is that Hamas who is obviously nothing more

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than an arm of Iran in one form or another,
or the Muslim brotherhood or both depending because obviously soon
she had differences. How is Trump perceived in the Middle East,
because here we get so caught up in the you know,
in the Trump derangement syndrome. I know your own in
Israel all the time, I know your son's there, I
know you have many relatives there. How is Trump seen

(27:24):
from the inside of Israel out?

Speaker 4 (27:27):
So look, by and large, and I can tell you
from not just what my family members who live in
Israel think and my friends think. But I've been to
Israel number eleven times since October seventh, so I have
quite a good feel of what people in general think.
And Trump is certainly perceived as a breath of fresh air.

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And like someone told me, Trump is the only one
that's been sane in many years. I said, what do
you mean. He said, Well, don't you know Einstein's quote
that in the definished of insanity is doing the same
thing time and time again, expecting different results each time.
Well year, finally someone comes and offers different solutions that

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no one has ever thought of before, or at least
never verbalized before. So yeah, someone who's saying is not insane,
like the definition of Einstein. And we hope that that
sanity will indeed influence the Middle East altogether, and who knows,
maybe one day bring about true lasting peace.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
And I would argue that the lynchpin of that would
be a peace treaty between Saudi Arabia and Israel, because
that that forever changes the paradigm in my And again,
who am I, but certainly in my opinion, rab I
want to I want to thank you for joining us,
for the for our listeners. Where can they find you?

(28:53):
Where can they find you on social media? How can
they get in touch with you? I know you're not
into self promotion, but that's all we do here is
self prim Well.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
I wish, first of all, I wish that more and
more people like you would promote themselves. It would spread
the light in the world. So please do continue to
promote yourselves too. But since you asked me, I can
be found on Instagram at Rabbi Aluche on Facebook, so
on LinkedIn. I have a podcast to Apple, podcast on

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Spotify and other places.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
What's the podcast called.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
It's called the Rabbi Aluche Podcast.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Oh that's easy.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
And obviously, if anyone, any of your listeners ever comes
to Scottsdale, to Arizona altogether, you more than welcome to
our congregation to even spend a dinner Shabbat dinner with us.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
And experience the beauty of Judaism too.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
And I mean it, I'm going to take you up
on that, just so yeah, I'm definitely taking it. We
come to Arizona at least once a year, so I'll
see you this, We'll see you this winter.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Excellent, look forward, I really mean it.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
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Speaker 2 (30:45):
I know, I almost feel like what we're about to
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Speaker 1 (30:51):
Why Why because because it is light and and.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
We're gonna make fun of people.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Well I'm not gonna make fun of people. Just may
be a smarter I mean, look, I'm from New Jersey.
My natural instinct, you know, is you know, hey, one
two tree not for not right. It's like for me
to you're dead right. So my that's my you know,
my inner Jersey. So you know, we're going to counterbalance
the very serious and the very deep conversation with Rabbio
loose with with with a little more oh you know,

(31:22):
bite biting commentary of the insanity of the country.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
And the in the world right now, right it is
pretty insane right now.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
And before we go to the videos, I do I
do want to start with one thing. So Congresswoman Rashida
Talib right, another one who I hope with self deport.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
We have to talk about her. She's awful.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Wait a minute, the House of Representatives had a bill
to condemn Let me see, let me make sure I
get this straight right. Voting on cracking down in the
Mexican cartels and the tunnel systems have been over one
hundred forty that they've discovered. The vote in favor of
cracking down on the cartels was four hundred and two

(32:06):
to one. The only person in the House of Representatives
to vote against cracking down on Mexican cartels and the
tunnels that allow illegal immigrants into the country was none
other than Reshooted to leave Why, which raises the question
of thank you very much, but have you been reading
my story?

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I'm sorry? Did I steal your punchline? I'm sorry?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Well, no, that wasn't the punch line. That was the question.
So one has to ask on the self. Four hundred
and two that means every single Democrat who was there, right,
and thirty five members, So that means there were like
twenty eighty you know, some odd you know, there's probably
thirty two so the squad was probably not there. So
there might have been others. But in that House vote

(32:50):
one vote against cracking down on the Mexican cartels in
the tunnel system. You have to ask yourself, why, Yeah,
did she say I want to of course not, but
I want your I want your insight.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Because she's a criminal and she benefits from it. I mean,
like real talk, Like what is that?

Speaker 5 (33:09):
Like?

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Why?

Speaker 2 (33:10):
The only thing I can think now, here's the deal, y'all.
I haven't read the bill, so maybe it says something
in there wild that I would vote against. But I
just I'm never usually on the same side as Rashida
to leave. So I mean, unless unless you're just being obstinate,
just to be obstinate, the only other reason to vote

(33:32):
against it would be that you benefit from it somehow.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
I think you're getting warmer. The question is how would
she benefit.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
And bad people in the country.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Oh, you're getting even warmer, right, There's only one possible reason.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Okay, okay, tell me, tell me.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
If if you want a legal immigrants to continue to
come into this country, then you then you want to
change the demographics of the country. That's what the immigration
was four and therefore you want to take down America
from within.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Right now, people will say, oh, you're being extreme. No,
that's the logical conclusion of unfettered illegal immigration. And even
by the way, you know that bill that they say, well,
you know, the Republicans during the Biden administration could have
had a bill on a legal immigration, right, but they
didn't know what they signed it.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Yeah, because there was a garbage bill.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Well that bill would have capped it at five thousand
illegal immigrants a day, Like you can be kind of pregnant, right,
and it's five thousand illegal image grins a day, which
five thousand times three hundred and sixty five days. I
don't know, that's like a million eight and change.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, dude, it's such. That's why they that's why nobody
signed it. It didn't actually solve the problem. And then you're like, oh,
but it's totally fine if we have we'll let five
thousand of you in a day. But that's it, okay,
so just get in line, but not Yeah, and then
we give and that how many of them have they
figured out? Has doge figured out? They've given so social
security benefits and disability food housing?

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Oh, I got it all right. So that's my that's
my event thing because four o two to one in
any event.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, you're turned, Yeah, my turn? What my turn?

Speaker 6 (35:19):
What? Oh?

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Are we going on to? The next part?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Is that me leading this?

Speaker 1 (35:24):
You had some things you wanted to show me, You
wanted this live reaction, you had you want live reactions,
and I'm and I am in a live reaction mood.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Oh okay, So okay, So why don't we start with
this one? This one is since we were just talking
about Israel. You know, a big, a big hubbub in
the news lately has been this guy Ian Carroll who
went on the Joe Rogan podcast and said that Epstein
worked for Israeli intelligence. Out of all the information that's

(35:55):
getting disclosed supposedly this administration, what do you have the
least faith that we're going to come.

Speaker 7 (36:02):
To And I think it's because of Israel. I think
that because I think I mean, when you really dig
into Epstein, his entire network was Israel. It was clearly
he was targeting American officials in the American president and
the CIA does have interest in those targets too. Elements
in the CIA does. Certainly they had helped from the CIA,
and certainly they had helped from these other organized crime

(36:23):
and intelligence operations. But I'm looking at okay, Dan, So
if this giant group of Jewish billionaires is running a
sex trafficking operation targeting American politicians and business people and stuff,
you think they're working with an Arab or Muslim nation
in the Middle East, Like you think that Lessie Westerner
is devoting his entire life to philanthropy's on behalf of Israel.

(36:43):
But then he's gonna work for Saudi Arabia when he's
doing this trafficking room.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
So the argument, okay, okay, First of all, he doesn't
say that the Massade. He never says, he says Israel
does the same. Asside, but what are you trying to
get me to believe that the Israeli government was setting
up a sex trafficking ring to ensnare US politicians? Is
that what this is?

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Well, that's what he's saying. My thought is, so there
is there is There is a credible connection Jeffrey Epstein,
Gallaine Maxwell, her dad was in the Masade. So that
is real, that that is known. That is something that
is out there.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
And that has to do with the price of ta
in China.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
How well, I mean, you don't think that the girlfriend
of Jeffrey Epstein, whose father was in the Israeli version
of the CIA, you don't think that that's.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Weird. So you're trying to tell me that all these
pedophiles politicians are pedophiles and they're being exposed to be
controlled by First of all, who is this guy again,
I don't even know. I don't remember rogan Is.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I don't, I don't. I'm not saying I agree with
him by any stretch of the imagination, however, And I'm
not saying this was all just like an Israeli job
like Epstein was all Israeli. Obviously, the only way he
could operate was with the permission of the United States government,
and we know that, so I would think there would be.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
A joint operation backup, can you can? You can you
give me that again? The only way who's able to
operate is Epstein.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
He was he was criminally charged and let go by
the United States government.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Well, it's because there's two tiers of system of justice.
I get that part. I mean, you'll get an arguments
out of me on that one.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
But you you cannot operate a system like that. You
can't have a worldwide trafficking ring and nobody knows about it.
I just don't. I just don't believe.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
First of all, I'm not sure he has a worldwide
trafficking ring. What I know about Epstein is he is
they flew people to the island right off of Saint
Thomas Epstein Island, and they brought in and they brought
in young underage girls, and they brought in politicians and
some did probably and some didn't. And how is that
a worldwide ring if you're in actually, if you're targeting
US officials. Look, I'm not defending any of this, right,

(39:03):
I think it was wrong. I think Epstein was probably
you know, murdered in prison. I have no proof of
any of that, but you know, Okay, so the guy
goes on Joe Rogan and and says that it's all
in Israel operation because Jewish billionaires. Right. Uh. And by
the way, last last time I checked, Bill Gates was

(39:23):
not a Jewish billionaire. I can give you a list
of the other ones that are not Jewish billionaires. So
so again I think, I you know, my concern with
with ship like that is they're feeding into the trope
of you know, and and to those old stereotypes you know, Jews,
money billionaires, Israel and look countries.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
I don't think it's weird that his girlfriend's father was Masad,
You don't. You don't think that?

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Well, first of all, I've never heard that before. Okay,
So so you know, I'll take it. I'll take it
at face I will take that at face value, because Erica,
you're never wrong about those things.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
But you should tell my husband that.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
I did. It didn't go over really well. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
I think part of the problem. One of the things
that worries me is you have all these people coming
out saying all this stuff, and we know enough bits
and pieces that people, you know, with their tinfoil hats,
are going to start They're going to start questioning stuff.
And if nobody comes out and says, no, here's why

(40:31):
it's wrong or here's the truth. Right, we're still waiting
on those Epstein files, Pam Bondy, Okay, okay, so it
just it. Unfortunately, it is like gives fuel for people
to build more theories, you know. So pam my girl, you.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Know what they say about opinions.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yes, I was gonna say something and I stopped myself.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Okay, well you can you can believe yourself out. But
they're like, you know, because everyone has the let's right,
let's move on next topic.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
All right. So one another clip that was super fun
in the news this week was Charlie Kirk was Gavin
Newsom's first guest on his brand new podcast. Can you
believe that?

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I love that?

Speaker 2 (41:22):
I know, let's watch.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
I hope you guys retreat.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
For us.

Speaker 6 (41:27):
I mean, if there's no opposition, there's no artist, activist spark,
you guys are posting these cringe videos on social media.
I don't know this like harmonious thing of like twenty
two senators all saying the same thing like that, Yeah,
I didn't like it. When you go ahead, go do
more of that?

Speaker 1 (41:41):
What do you do? But what do you do? Seriously,
Charlie Kirk give us some.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
Of the better ideas governor. To President Trump's credit, he
also harmonized with the strategy by going on podcasting and
using TikTok. He personified what a lot of young people,
especially young men, wanted back in their politics, which was
an ascendant rebel attitude. Again, these institutions that have failed
them so miserably.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Tute agains that are absolutely absolutely spot on. Look, I
told you we did we did a poll. You know.
I used to do a bunch of you know, extensive
polling under Electoral Science Institute back you know in sixteen
and fifteen when Trump was running, and we found an
interesting synergy between Trump supporters and Bernie Sanders supporters. Yes,

(42:26):
and the and and the synergy was they wanted to
burn it down, right, they wanted to disrupt the system.
So I think what Charlie Kirk was saying is absolutely
is absolutely correct. I also think that when he said that,
you know, you guys, Democrats need better ideas. I mean,
you know, they used to make fun of the Republicans
with Handmaid's Tales or whatever that thing was. Yeah, watch
those videos again, you know of all the of all

(42:47):
these women, you know, you know, you know, pretending they're
boxing or whatever. If that's not Handmaid's Tales Democrat style,
I don't know what is. Yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Here's the thing. It's that everyone can take when they're
being pandered too. You know, we have entered the pander verse.
These Democrats are you know what was the babe, what
was the one we watched They were doing like a
smash Brothers like they were characters in a video game.
It was so cringe. It was so cringe.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
You guys are trying where.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yeah, it's you're trying too hard to be cool, bro. Like,
if you have to try that hard, you're not.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Cool, okay as opposed to me?

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Right, you're always cool robbers coolness, right you just especially
when you talk about how you only watch movies with
dead people.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I only watch movies with dead people. There you go.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Okay, so let's see.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
And by the way, last point correct right now the
Democrat Look, I think they'll regroup it right now. The
Democratic Party has a battle for their soul. And the
people leading the party, which is the hard left or
the squad sort of winging, the party is morally bankrupt
and has no idea is how to connect with the

(44:02):
American public. They are lost in the wind.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
You know what, speaking of lost in the wind, I
wanted to ask Rabbi ALUs this question.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
But I wasn't. I was supposed to have gone with
the wind right.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Which has a bunch of dead people in it.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yes, right, I love the What did you want to
ask the Rabbi.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
What he thought about Donald Trump talking about basically making
Gaza into Judea into a resort, a beachside resort, Like,
what do you thought about that? What do you think
about that?

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Robert? First of all, I think it's a great idea.
I want to buy beachfront property now you can get
it at of Steel. Now. Look, I think it is
you know what I mean, you know, too soon? Well,
I think a couple of things. Number one, if you
want to make an omelet, you got to break some eggs.

(44:53):
And the and the two state solution has been around
for so long, and it's what he said, It's what
Rabbi Alu said, right. Einstein's definition of insanity is repeating
the same feled procedure and expecting process and expecting a
different result. So it's an out of box thinking. And
don't forget the Egyptians now come to the table with
some of the other Middle East countries with an alternative proposal.

(45:15):
But at the end of the day, the two state
solution is dead. And whether it's you know, Trump Gaza
or Saudi Arabia Gaza or I had a friend of
mine put forth the theory that he thinks it's going
to be some sort of international protectorate. But at the
end of the day, Hamas is done, right, Hamas is done,
and they have to be done because even after they're defeated,

(45:38):
and by all intentsive purposes, they're already defeated. It will
be generational before you through education, the children that are
growing up, you know, have to you know, grow old
and die, you know of natural causes, hopefully before you're
going to generationally shift that. So it not doesn't matter
as much what you do in the geography, but you've
got to stop the hemorrhaging, which is or they had

(46:00):
the same Yes.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yep, and Ben sent me, Ben sent me Robert Maxwell's
Wikipedia y'a also forgive me. He was not officially part
of the Israeli government. He's actually a part of the
British government.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Well that I know. Excuse me that.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
But are you guys going to be fighting later? Because
he just like.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Told you you're No, he said something, but he doesn't wrong, No,
he said something, but he knows that. I can't hear
him with my headphones in, so I don't know why
he's being a silly goose face. What oh, just hold on,
hold on, I unmuted you.

Speaker 8 (46:38):
I'm saying the only things that I find said that
he had links to m I, six KGB and Masad,
but links. It doesn't get the details of that, and
it does say that sixth serving and former heads of
Israeli intelligence services attended his funeral in Israel, while Prime
Minister Yitzak Shmier eulogized him.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Oh so, so what what's your base saying? Is he
new people there? Therefore he was guilt by So this
is guilt by association.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Eric, Maybe maybe Eric Erica. I'm just saying his daughter
ended up being the girlfriend of a major human trafficking ring.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Okay, that's a far cry from what you were saying before.
And look, I'm not justifying it. And maybe it wasn't
maybe it was. I don't know. I mean, look, they
say in nineteen sixty nine that you know, you know,
the US landed on the Moon. I wasn't there to
see it. I saw it on TV for all I know.
They staged it in the Arizona Desert. We've never been
to the movie.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
This is the thing, See, this is the part of
the thing, is like, you know what it's you know,
how do we know? You don't know what?

Speaker 1 (47:37):
You know? What comes from comes from faith? At some point.
Faith is always before the fact, because if it's not
before the fact, and if after the fact, it's not faith,
it's hindsight. So at some point, right if you get
more information, But to those allan it was KGB Okay,
so we hung around with people in high places, you know.
And by the way, was he you know, let's let's

(47:59):
figure out the nexus between the massade the kgb M
I six right, So yeah, and back in that day
they were at odds with each other. So maybe he
was a double agent or maybe he was a triple agent.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
And here's the thing. Our governments suck, bro, Like, the
government sucks. They do stupid things. And you know, I'm
willing to believe anything really honestly, pretty much.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I'm like, I'm six foot two.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Absolutely, dude, the water really is turning the frogs? Gay? Okay,
Like what wait? What is it? The difference between the
truth and a conspiracy theory is six months?

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I got it. Let's go on to the next stop.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Conspiracy theory truth? Sorry wait, which one? Okay? So hold on? Okay,
So this one's about Newsome talking about the transgenders.

Speaker 9 (48:51):
Governor Gavin Newsom taking some criticism after his comments about
trans athletes and women's sports making headlines this evening.

Speaker 6 (48:58):
Take a listen, would you say no men in female sports?

Speaker 5 (49:01):
Well, I think it's an issue of fairness. I completely
agree with you on that it is an issue of
fair So it's deeply on you. So that's easy to
call out the unfairness of that. There's also a humility
and grace. You know that these poor people are more
likely to commit suicide of anxiety and depression, and the
way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an
issue that I have a hard time with as well.

Speaker 9 (49:25):
Those comments during the newly released first episode of his
new podcast, as he hosted conservative political commentator Charlie Kirk.
Some members of Newsom's party have criticized him for saying
it's unfair for trans athletes to compete in women's sports.
Critics include Democratic state Senator Scott Wiener, who called Newsom's
agreement with Kirk on the issue profoundly disturbing. It's all

(49:46):
comes as Kirk spoke during an event at SEASID which
brought out both supporters and protesters. Kirk has become a
polarizing figure for what many call racist and anti Semitic comments.
In the past, he founded the organization Turning Point in USA,
has been criticized by both the Anti Defamation League and

(50:08):
the end of ACP. He's also got a strong support
from many.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
I think if you are criticized by the what was
that the Justice League.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, let's go back to this.
Let's go back to this comment. First of all, he
was before he was against it, before he was for it, right,
you know, it's it's it's the quintessential sale board guy. Right,
he's got to go that way on the on the wind,
and then he goes that way. So all it tells
you is the guy's running trying to rehab his image,

(50:40):
run for president. Excuse me. He doesn't have time to
open up the reservoirs in La County to make sure
there's water against the fire, and he can't run the government,
but he has time to do a freaking podcast. That's
number one. Number number two. Love the fact that Charlie
Kirk was on the podcast. But for him to now
say that he's four against women men competing in women's

(51:03):
sports is about as nakedly political of a pivot as
I have ever seen. And then he's talking about the
humility of the you know, you know, of the essentially
the oppressed community. Yeah, Governor methinks thou dost protest too much.
He doesn't give a dam.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
He basically my reaction, that's he basically tried to like
stand on the fence and and be like, oh, well,
I understand both sides. And what he ended up doing
was making everyone mad, you know, is like, uh, he
didn't make anybody happy with that response.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Here is my prediction. Governor Gavin Newsom is al Gore
two point zero. Al Gore, by his own father's admission,
was raised quote unquote raised to be president. Didn't quite
get there. Gavin Newsom, you know, raised in Presidio and
all that in San Francisco, was raised to be president.

(52:01):
He will never be president and he will never even
be the Democratic nominee in four years from now, because
there is nothing more pathetic than a politician out of office,
which is one is going to be by the time
that happens. And the podcast, smart as it is, ain't
gonna save them.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
All right, all right, y'all, we've got a few more
funny clips that we're going to be reacting to.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
If aren't you having aren't you glad you're doing this
with me?

Speaker 2 (52:27):
If you've been watching this long, we thank you so much.
If you've gotten something out of it, go ahead and
leave alike, And if you think it sucks, go ahead
and leave a down vote, because here's the deal. All
engagement is engagement, So leave us a comment, make sure
to share, share it around. All right, hate watch We
like hate watchers too. We'll take it. Okay, So now

(52:49):
we're going to watch the ever so tolerant left talk
about voting for Trump.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Well, I'm a woman and.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
I get a lot of going to church.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
I just I love the people.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
It's very moving. I didn't know you went to church.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Oh yeah, we go every Sunday.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Yeah, ever since we moved to Austin. Is it like
a real textan church, like with Bible thumbers?

Speaker 8 (53:22):
And well?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
The people are you know, more conservative than like LA
people or like New York? Is that weird for you?
Why would it be weird? I don't know. If I
was just around a bunch of Texans who voted for Trump,
I guess I just feel a little alienated.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
They're nice people, really good families.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Cool, But you ever talk politics with them? Sometimes I
can't get awkward.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Why would it?

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Because wait, are you a Republican?

Speaker 1 (54:06):
No?

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Wow, I'm an independent?

Speaker 1 (54:10):
But Davis.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
An independent?

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yah?

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Since when.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
I love it?

Speaker 2 (54:20):
You guys, this is a good demostration.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
No, this was white lotus. This was white lotus, right.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Now are they having this conversation in Thailand? Because I
thought White Lotus takes place in Thailand.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I I you know what, I'm not gonna lie. I
have no idea what this is. Our our miss Maria,
our social media manager, sent it to us. So apparently
this is going around.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Because here's what I have to say. If it was
in Thailand. Yeah, never mind what just happened. I wasn't swearing.
I wasn't swearing.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Wait are beaving me out?

Speaker 1 (54:58):
So you know how to speak to?

Speaker 4 (55:00):
What?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
What language do they speak in Thailand?

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Thai? Thai? You know, it's sort of like it's sort
of like what color was George Washington's white Horse? You
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Yeah, that's what That's what you're saying, George Washington.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
No, no, no, it says I speak a little. It
says actually it's I speak a little. I'm not sure
I got the dialect right now. I have all the
important things like like Hong dan you can't I, which
means where's the bathroom? Because if you're going to go
to Thailand, it's a long way to hold it on
the plane. First thing off the plane, right, you know?
So so can we get back to the Trump thing

(55:40):
or not the Trump thing?

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Which Trump thing?

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Well, the fact that you know, first of all, the
reference to bible thumpers, Yeah, yeah, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
A bible thumper if because if you believe in Jesus
or you're a Christian, you must be a bad person,
don't you know, Robert?

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Where but where does the term bible thumper come from?

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Beating people over the head with a Bible basically, Like, I.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Find it hard to believe that that's where bible thumper
comes from. But I'm sure ben Lord Reddick will find
that for us. But here's the other thing. You didn't
vote for Trump, did you? Oh? I'm an independent, by
the way, They obviously don't answer that, but that I think.
I think that's coming on now because what I find
is that most people now have the balls to speak
up and say, oh, yes I did, whereas two years

(56:31):
ago they weren't doing it, and even during the Trump years.
All right, The term bible thumper originates from the practices
some preachers physically thumping or hitting the Bible with their
hand while delivering a sermon. So Erica, once again, you
thought they were using it as a cudgel and beating
people with the Bible. I'm like, I'm gonna thump you,

(56:51):
like yeah, which is a term. Right, So did you
ever get beat with a Bible? Is that what you're
telling me?

Speaker 3 (56:56):
No?

Speaker 2 (56:56):
But I but you know, I did have family members
that are Christians that are the reason why people hate Christians.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Beat them, beat them with the Bible spiritually, well not physically,
beat them, not physically, but spiritually. Look, look, some people
need a beating either way, so spiritually or physically. Which,
by the way, when I see all these protests that
like Barnard and Columbia, they all need a beating, right

(57:25):
because they hide behind their little mask. We're going to
end this show where we started, right, if you have
the courage of convictions, take off the mask and let's
see who you really are. But they don't want to
do that because they need not only a spiritual beating,
but a physical one. In Erica, we're done.

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