Fighting College Campus Antisemitism with Maccabee Task Force Executive Director David Brog

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You guys, we are live, but Ben, I don't know
if the local recordings turned on or not.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Uh. Oh, you're in the show, you know, maybe no
one wants to record us.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Well, you know, by the way, if.

Speaker 4 (00:11):
We're not being recorded, then there's no evidence, so we
can we can really be unvarnished.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Okay, it looks like the local recordings didn't turn on. Honey,
is there anything we can do about that?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Do we care?

Speaker 1 (00:23):
We're not gonna sweat it this time, all right, you guys,
the joys of live television.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Joys of is this live TV? Is a podcast? Really
live TV? I mean?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Who watches TV anymore?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Well? That's well, you know you know why we don't
watch TV anymore?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Why?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yes, because we're no longer a free country. Did you
know that?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Tell me more?

Speaker 4 (00:44):
You mean, and because we're no longer a free country,
the France wants their statue back. I don't know if
you heard that, but the French politician said, because America
is no longer America, we want the statue of liberty back.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
That is rich coming from the French.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
You know, I was really thinking maybe we could do
like a three way trade like they do in baseball
like a multi team trade, like like we give the
statue of liberty to Panama, they give us back the canal, right,
and we don't care for.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Free or not.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
And France can, I don't know, you know, get free
passages through the canal or something.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
So wait a second.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
France didn't say that we weren't free anymore when we
were doing lockdowns forcing people to take do that stuff
or you know, literally just throwing our republic in the toilet.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
But now what is it?

Speaker 5 (01:34):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Because of Trump?

Speaker 4 (01:36):
So so a French member of parliament he is the
center and left, Raphael Gluxman, if I'm pronouncing this correctly, says,
you know, we're going to say that Americans who have
chosen to side with the tyrants, to be Americans who
fired researchers blah blah, give us back the statue of liberty.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
So you know, I mean, by the way, this is
from the.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Country where they have you know, libertay, egalate and eternity
right internity right, which would be you know, freedom, equality
and brotherhood right. I mean, these are the guys where
the Muslims are taking over the country and they have
DEI all over the place, Anyways, this is.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
So rich coming from freaking France.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
So wait, am I allowed to call it like a
politically correct word?

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Would that make them like Indian givers?

Speaker 3 (02:26):
You're definitely not allowed to say that anymore. That is
definitely not allowed.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Okay, old damn okay, but they.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Are definitely Indian givers.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Hey, give the statue back, and by the way, they
can have our huddled masses back too.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Right, there's the one. That way Trump won't have to
deport them and deal with and deal with rogue judges.
In any event, let's roll the show. Let's go hello

(03:07):
and welcome to of the people.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
The Alien Enemies Act of seventeen ninety eight. So unless
you're living under a rock, everybody in the country knows
that Trump has invoked this act to deport illegal, violent immigrants,
most notably trend to Ouagua. If I could say that properly,
thank you very much to Venezuela, and right on cue.

(03:31):
What you're hearing from the Democrats is their new mantra.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Rule of law, rule of law, rule of law.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
On a serious note, just once, I would actually like
to have a civil discourse where we disagree on things
and people are posted deportation. Let's have it, let's have
a conversation. But if you know the law, this one
in particular, and I would say that Democrats were probably
absent from history class when this one was being taught.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Maybe right, But once again they're.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Cherry picking the information because they're saying, well, the aliens
the Enemies Act of seventeen ninety eight is only for
during during wartime. Wrong, and it was last used by FDR.
Wrong again, And you know Trump's a dictator, he's a fascist.
He's going to lead to a constitutional crisis. So I
happen to have with me a copy of the law,

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which I should read to you. And the Alien Enemies
Act of seventeen ninety eight says the following that whenever
there shall be a declared war between the United States
and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion of
predatory or predatory incursions shall be perpetrated, attempted, or threatened
against the territory of the United States, dot dot dot

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shall be these people shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured,
removed as alien enemies. So there's a word in there, right,
there's part of first half says clearly about war but
the second half it says, or any invasion or predatory
incursion shall be perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory

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of the United States by any foreign nation or government,
all native citizens, etc.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Et. Shall be liable to be apprehended, retained, secured, or removed.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
So the question is, were they just aption from history
class on that day, or are they once again cherry
picking the law, because look, all laws are subject to interpretation. Precedents, review, revision,
sometimes repeal, but laws are not immutable like math, right
two plus two always equals four. But laws are subject

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to interpretation.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
So the other thing is to have them rail about
rule of law, given what we just came through in
the Obama years and the Biden years, is about as
priceless a hypocrisy as I have ever seen. Where were
all these how should we call them a rule of
lawyers during the Biden years and the Obama years? Let's
see how many.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Hatchack violations were there during the Biden year. The destruction
of evidence both in the Obama administration and the Biden administration,
not to mention the destruction of evidence or documents when
Trump was taking office. Then, of course, there's the evidence
in Joe's garage, not to bastardize a really great album

(06:18):
from the sixties, which is Frank zappas Joe Garage. And
let's not forget Fast and Furious gun running, paying ransom
to Iran to release hostages and which is illegal.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Both of those things were deemed to be illegal.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
And IRS targeting of the conservative groups also ruled to
be illegal. But the hypocrisy from the left is best
summed up with one name, and one name only, Hillary
Rodham Clinton, and of course her email service where she
kept confidential and secure information national security information on her

(06:52):
private server illegal, destroyed the servers and the phones that
went with it. And folks, this wasn't just about apply
the law and properly, because that's what they're accusing Trump
of doing.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
This is about a criminal violation.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
And so I get this right, it's actually eighteen US
Code seven ninety three of mishandling classified information. So to
my democratic friends and friends on the left, now that
Donald Trump is president, please tell us which laws we
need to follow and which ones we don't, because clearly
you guys are better at this than we are. And

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as for the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen ninety eight.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
That's going to go to the Supreme Court. A lot
of the other things that Trump's is doing is going
to go to the Supreme Court. And I think that's
the plan. It's not going to lead to a constitutional.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Crisis, but it will lead to a rebalancing of the
separation of powers between the branches of government.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I think Trump is within his constitutional framework on most
of this.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
I think he'll win most. He'll lose a couple and
that's the way it goes. But for now, to paraphrase
that great legal scholar Slick Willie, when it comes to
the Alien's Enemies Act, it really does depend on what
the meaning.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Of the word or is. And that's the monologue. Erica,
come on back in because I am psyched to have
with us. David Bragg, executive director of mccabee Task Force,
former chief of staff to Arlen Spector, author, consultant, activist.

(08:25):
Just I mean, how he accomplishes all this, I don't know.
But we're going to start on the law side, because
he's a lawyer. He's a you know, I like the
smart guys. So let's bring.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
David in, all right, David, welcome, And.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
By the way, nice merch which I do also want
to get it get into.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
So, oh yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Real Appreciation Day, and David, thank you for being a
guest on his and and the You are the anchor
of the event and absolutely one of the best speeches
of the night. So thank you for being part of
his Real Appreciation Day and thank you for being on
over the people.

Speaker 5 (08:59):
Thank you ver much, Robert. I appreciate that it was
an honor to participate. Great to be with you, Erica,
Great to be with you. Yes.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
So I want to start with the word or because
you're you are you know Princeton, Harvard, you are you
are the smart guy? Right?

Speaker 4 (09:17):
The word or in what I just read makes a difference,
does it not in terms of how Now again, I'm
not asking.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
A rule for the courts, but I'm asking you too.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Well, yeah, the word or means it doesn't have to
be all the first prong doesn't have to be that
kind of full fledged invasion. If the second prong is
meant after the war, then this law and its provisions
would apply. That. That is the simple interpretation, and usually
the simple interpretation is the one that will prevail.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well, and you know, it was funny listening to Robert
read that because I was thinking, you're trying to say
this doesn't apply. But we have gang members taking over
whole apartment complex, is in various cities You've got you know,
they're they're running people across the border. I mean, all
this crazy stuff. If that's what what was the word, Robert,

(10:10):
It was like, uh, an incursion of violence?

Speaker 4 (10:15):
So Ben should have the have the language, if you
can put it up. I'd love David to see this
as well. I don't know if Ben was able to
put that up, but basically it says, uh declare. It
basically says perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of
the United States, right, Yeah, I mean, the only thing
that they can do on this, David, is it says

(10:36):
i'll be purpose by any form foreign nation or government.
So the only thing they could say is, well, these
are not related to foreign governments. But rumor has it
that the trendyarragua uh right, immigrants may be sending money
back to Maduro.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Now that's not proven. I haven't seen that, but wouldn't that.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Yeah, in the question, in the question is what is
the participation of government necessary to trigger this? Is it
at the direction of or is it with the benign
neglect of when they allow these people to come, that
is also government action. So I think you said it
very well, Robert. The courts are going to decide this.
It's an interesting legal issue because we're taking an older

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law and applying it to new, modern circumstances. But you
have to figure that our legislature at some point in
our history gave the executive the power to do exactly this.
When we see our border being overrun, when we see
an emergency being created by the fact that we can
no longer control our border, should not and does not

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our executive have the power to act, And so it
makes sense to me. I think the common sense interpretation
is our executive would have the power to act, and
this may be the means by which the executive was
given the power. But the courts will decide, and I'll
tell you this if they decide that this law doesn't apply,
and I think Congress needs to act because this is

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clearly something is missing in our laws, and something is
missing in the power given to our executive when they
can act given these circumstances as extreme as they've been,
he has to have a remedy, absolutely, And you have
to love the creativity. You have to love the fact
that they're looking back through history and finding what the

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legal rationale may well be, with confidence that this is
not the first time. You rarely encounter issues for the
first time, so it's some confidence that this is not
the first time we've encountered a problem like this, and
perhaps we've solved this problem already.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
That's so true because I feel like so much of
the time you hear politicians hiding behind Oh, well, we
don't know what to do.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Oh, our hands are tied.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Oh you know, Oh we need a new immigration law
that allows five thousand people in a day.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
No, we don't stuff, it's already in place.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Who do you think Who do you think is the
mastermind behind all of this amazing stuff Trump is doing.
Do you think it's just one person or do you
think it's a whole team finding this stuff?

Speaker 5 (13:15):
You know, my sense is there's a team now. When
President Trump was elected the first time, it took him
a while to find the right team, the right advisors.
He had mixed advice and a lot of his team,
and I know these people. I spent a lot of
time on Capitol Hill. A lot of this team was
sort of the old style Republican that played by certain rules,

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rules that typically work to our great disadvantage. He was
being counseled, this is the way you have to do it.
You can't go beyond these rules or this format, otherwise
you'll be perceived as extreme or excessive. Yeah, and not
having a lot of experience in the White House, not
having a lot of Washington experience, he listened to a

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lot of these folks, but he learned, I think over
the course of his first term that the only way
to get something done, and the only way to overcome
the barriers that the Democrats will inevitably throw at you,
both legal and extra legal, is to change the way
you play this game. They changed where they play the game.

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They change the way they deal with the situation where
those are Republican in the White House, a Conservative in
the White House, the one they don't like. The only
way you can overcome their opposition is for us also
to change the way we play the game. So I
think both of his personal experience, his education in real time,
and the team he assembled of people who are not
typical Washington creatures. Yep, they knew what they were doing.

(14:45):
They hit the ground running very intentionally, creating this these
you know, these first weeks of NonStop action.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Right and pre planned.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah, And I would argue David that you know, you've
heard the term flood the zone, and that was really
in reference to all the executive orders that he signed,
the flurry of them, you know, in the first couple
of weeks, and he continues to sign them. But I
think they were very clear and they understood that the
only weapon that the Democrats have to fight back as
law fair and I think they're flooding the zone selectively

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on that, pushing certain laws and pushing certain policies that
a they believe in, and keeping with Trump's promises that
he promised to deliver, but doing it in such a
way that they want this to go before the Supreme Court,
not just this law, but several other things. Because there
is now such an imbalance between the executive branch and
the judicial branch, and as we see, the judicial branch

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is interceding. I would argue, way over stepping their authority
on certain policy things in order precluding the executive from functioning. Right,
So I think it was perhaps not premeditated, but close.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Yeah, and that's exactly the way to do it. Let's
bring these things up one after the other and then
and then let the Supreme Court decide.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
All right. So so so there we have it.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah, it's a little too small to read, but yeah,
basically I read, I read you the salient parts. So
I want to I want to jump from from this
because you were also former executive you helped the found
and you're the former executive director of Christians United for Israel.
You're now the executive director of mccabee Tasks as well,
which you helped to found. But the Christians United for

(16:29):
Israel is sort of one aspect of the global war
against terrorism in defending Western values. The beach head or
front on college campus is something different.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I want to get to that a little later. Rpe.
They're a connected war.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
But how do you see where is the support within
the Christian community at large at this moment in time
in this country, not just for Israel because it's about
your day of Christian values, but where are they in this.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
So we're very fortunate. I mean there's good news and
bad news. Let's start with the good news. We're very
fortunate and that are small Jewish community of six million
or less, mostly Democrats, mostly on the coasts. Is not
the only basis support for Israel in our country. That

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is too few people, too thinneried upon which to days
for Israel. You know, we've been very lucky that support
for Israel's much broader and deeper than that. And the
fact is there are millions of evangelical Christians who support
Israel in a very deep and very personal way, and

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they support Israel for reasons that are very similar to
the reasons why an orthodox Jew would support Israel. I mean,
it starts with their faith, it starts with the way
they read the Bible, but it really doesn't end there.
You know, these are people who understand the tragedy of
Jewish history. They understand what the world, and oftentimes you know,

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in the name of their own faith, was done to
Jews by people they would argue or not true Christians.
They understand the need for a Jewish state. And then
these are people who understand the history of Israel in
a way that most people don't anymore, and they understand
the justice of Israel's fight for survival and self defense.

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And so these are tens of millions of Christian allies
that we have in New York and la too, but
we also have in every congressional district in between. And
I would go further than that. I would argue, know
lots of people and you see the conspiracy theories on
the right now APAC is buying all of our politicians.
It's only because of Jewish money that we're pro Israel.

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That is such nonsense. And anyone who spent time in
Washington understands how much this is nonsense. The answer is,
of course that it's not just Jews, but it's also
not just evangelical Christians. There is I think in most
Americans going back now since the Founding since the founding fathers,
and we can quote John Adams and his sympathy for
the idea of a Jewish state, you know, over a

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century before Theodore Hertzel, you know, was even the po
And so when Jews and Christians go to Washington to
lobby on behalf of Israel, they are pushing on an
open door because most Americans love Israel and most Americans
are sympathetic to Israel. But that's the good news. Unfortunately,
there's some troubling trends we have to be aware of,

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and that is the fact that a majority of American
support Israel is still true. If you look at Americans
over the age of fifty, you look at Americans under
the age of thirty, and all of a sudden, you're
seeing a young generation that you know, no knows, not Joseph,
that that doesn't understand Israel, that doesn't know what the

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Holocaust was.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, they don't remember the Intafaudas and the constant.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
They don't know the tragedy of Jewish history, and they
don't know that justice of Israel's fight for survival because
they don't know the facts. Like you're saying, Erica, they
don't know what led to the wars, what led to
the conflicts, what led to the suffering.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
Even among Evangelicals, we're seeing young evangelicals don't support Israel
like their parents. And then the last thing that deeply
troubles me is it used to be evangelical Christians dominate
the conservative politics in America. They dominated the debate on
the debate on the right. There pro Israel. The right
was pro Israel. Now we're seeing all these new voices

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on the right that are not Evangelicals, that don't love Israel.
Some of them are out flat out anti Semitic voices
gaining traction on the right, and so we've got a
lot of work to do. You know, for years I've
been telling my friends on the left, you've got a
lot of work to do. Anti Semitism is moving from
your extreme into your mainstream. It's going to control the
Democratic Party. And they'd say, oh, you're being partisan. Oh no,

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I'm just observing where anti semitism is and where it's
become acceptable. Now. Well, you know, the last couple of years,
I can't say that's exclusively a problem of the left.
We're seeing it a merge on the right and we
have a lot of work to do to make sure
it doesn't go mainstream on the right. Every day, if
you look at x it's it's got support, it's picking

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up ahead of steam. We've got a lot of work
to do to stop it.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, and the thing that concerns me, you know, there
was a Gallup poll, David that was recently out. I
don't know if you saw the Gallup poll, but it
basically said that support for Israel in this country is
at an all time low. It's still the majority, but
it's trending in the wrong direction, and I think it
was hovering about fifty two percent when you factor it.
When you don't do it according to.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Age demographics and support for Hamas and a Palestinian state,
if you will, or supporting for Hamas and Hezbela, and
you know, anti Israel is at an all time high
again only quote unquote thirty two thirty three percent, but
again all time high, trending in the wrong direction, and
when you break it down by age, that's the real

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concerning part.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
I get that the trends are troubling. And so if
you freeze frame right now, it's still a decent story.
And we've seen this before during wartime. Israel's positives tend
to go down, then they tend to pick back up.
If you freeze the frame, it's still okay. But boy,
the trends are troubling, and we can't take this for granted.

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The ground is shifting.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
And the mccabee task Force is set up to be
part of that education.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Piece and get the word out and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
Correct, Yeah, you know, we've found the mccabee task Force.
You know, Sheldon and Miriam Adison founded it and I
helped them build it back in twenty fifteen. Oh wow.
In those days, my biggest problem was when I told
people what we did, Is it really anti semitism on campus?

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Is that?

Speaker 5 (22:54):
Is that really a problem?

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Is that right really a thing? Is that a thing?

Speaker 5 (22:59):
Since October seventh, not only do people realize that, but
now people are jumping to the opposite extreme and telling
me it's too late, we've lost the campuses. What to fight? Well,
they're jumping ahead because we do have a problem on
the campuses. And look on the campus, this is still
a problem of the left. Whatever right wing anti zionism

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and anti semitism exists doesn't really have a big following
on America's college campuses. America's college campuses, especially student culture
and student government in the academic world, is dominated by
people of the left. When we're talking about the college,
we are talking about left wing anti zionism and left
wing anti semitism that has now achieved a place of prominence.
I'd say it is a default on our campuses. So

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we realized this is a problem, you know, back in
twenty fifteen, the problem even precedes that. Wow, We've been
working to find ways to push back against it, and
there's actually some good News here because what we do
on campus tends to work, and we do a lot
on campus, but the centerpiece of what we do is
we're trying to find a way we know the truth

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about Israel is at odds with the anti Israel narrative
that dominates progressive circles, dominates woke circles, dominates the campus.
But how do you get these people to pay attention
to the truth about Israel. You can write about book.
I've done it. They're not reading my book. You know,
Croswell videos, I've done it. They're not watching my videos.

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And you can throw a great falafel brunch with the
best falafel in the world. Food works, food works, free food.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
But if you're on college you need alcohol.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
Though maybe that's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
You need on college camp get them soft. Stop excuse me.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
You know, I realize that you know you're a Harvard
Princeton guy or Princeton Harvard guy, but I'm a McGill guy.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Okay, alcohol in college campuses works. Okay, you want their
attention just giving free booth.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
You've just seized on our big mistake. We're going to
make it now and arek.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
So what is your take?

Speaker 1 (25:09):
On just oh, I'm sorry if you had a thought
you wanted to finish before ask the next question.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
So in the absence of alcoholics, So none of these
other tools work. So what's a tool that can work
to get someone who's wrapped up in this woke progressive
mindset to the truth about Israel? And one thing we
do that works very well is we map our campuses.
We find out who are the students who dominate campus politics,
almost always left, far left, almost always Israel skeptical, if

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not outright Israel critical. We take them to Israel. And
taking them to Israel is extraordinarily effective, which is something
I wouldn't have known or wouldn't have believed until we
did it. And we've done it now with over five
thousand students, which says something. It's the only optimistic thing
I'm seeing, but I want to share it.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
A lot of us see the hate on campus, A
lot of us see the encampments, and we say to ourselves,
what's wrong with these people? Are they anti Semites who
just hate the Jews? Or are most of them good
people who believe a false narrative about Israel? And the
answer is overwhelmingly, Look, there's always going to be ten
percent of the campus that hates us. We're never going

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to reach them. There's always going to be ten percent
of the campus that loves us. We don't need to
reach them. But overwhelmingly that in the middle, that eighty
percent that is increasingly expressing skepticism towards Israel and the
polls and sympathy for the Palestinians and the polls, that
eighty percent is overwhelmingly comprised of good people who believe
a false narrative about Israel, a narrative, by the way,

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that if you or I believed it, we'd also hate Israel.
And when you show them that the truth is so
starkly at odds with that false narrative, it changes them,
and it changes their behavior when they get back to campus.
And so the truth about Israel remains an extremely powerful thing.
And if we can find ways to get that truth

(27:00):
into this very tall and thickly walled progressive, woke silo,
we can change Heartsones. And so that's what we do.
We found a way to do it through the trips
and then after the trip, using each of our trip
participants as a bridge to their respective communities on campus.
We can win new allies. We can then form larger coalitions,
and we can win more often than we lose. So

(27:22):
is the campus lost. No, we just have to get
in there and fight. And if we don't always win, well,
that means we need to invest more, not less, so
even in the belly of the beast, even on the
American college campus, even on prestigious American college campuses.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
I want to jump over to Israel because a little
known fact is your cousin to a former Prime minister
of Israel. Oh right, right, So okay, So didn't think
I knew that, did you, David?

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Okay? You know, there's nothing in life I can't find out.
I just want you to know that it's a Jersey thing.
I just put that out there.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
So Bibi Netan, Yahoo, Prime Minister of Israel, to my opinion,
has been a historic figure. But I understand that he's controversial,
you know, certainly outside of Israel.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
But how do you assess the jobs he's doing? Because
from my opinion, the real stroke of genius was going
into Rafa, because that was really the game changer in
all of this.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
But you know, you know, as we go to broadcast
the ceasefire was broken what was it March fifth and expired.
They tried to extend the ceasefire. AMAS didn't want it,
so Israel just launched missile strikes into Gaza to you know,
obviously take out the leadership and hopefully we can get
back to the rest of the hostages. But focus to

(28:45):
me on the Prime Minister and the job that you
think he's doing in Israel, and.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
You know, the war in general.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
You know Bibi Netanyah, who is a much maligned character
and including my cousin now is a a leading critic
of VV. Natanyahu. I look at Bib and I respect him,
and I give him credit for two things. First of all,
a lot of people don't remember this, but when he

(29:14):
was Israel's finance minister in the nineteen nineties, because he
was educated in America and sort of imbibed American conservatism,
he liberalized in the you know, the old fashioned meaning
of the world where he liberalized Israel's economy. He moved
it from socialism to free market. That enabled the startup

(29:36):
nation that is Israel. Really, if it weren't for BB's
reforms in the nineteen nineties, Israel would not have been
able to achieve what it's achieved through its economy today,
the startup nation that it is, the high standard of living.
Israel just surpassed Great Britain in its standard of living
is truly tremendous. And I find it a bit ironic
because we have a lot of friends in Israel who
don't agree with me politically, they don't like BIB. They're

(29:57):
living well with height tech salaries that are only enabled
because of BB's reforms. Sitting there criticizing BB as if
he's the devil. So let's give the devil his due.
And then with the war you mentioned Robert, I gave
BB enormous credit because the pressure upon him not to

(30:18):
go into Raffa.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
From the White House, from the Biden White House.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
From the Biden White House, the incredible bad advice, the
incredible pressure not to fight Hamas, not to go into Raffa,
to in a sense, let Hamas off the hook while
the hostages were being held, while Hamas was in power.
The pressure was so enormous, I think other leaders would

(30:43):
have buckled to it, and indeed there are signs that
opposition leader Gance wanted to buckle to it. I think
that would have been a tremendous mistake and a tremendous
error that would have doomed the future of the state
of Israel. And BB had the strength and the fortitude
not to buckle, to wait it out, to ultimately go in.
And it was only when Israel went into Rafa and

(31:04):
really to damage to Hamas that you saw that there
was more movement in freeing hostages, and you saw the
potential future, really the only future for Israel, a potential
future in which Hamas is dislodged from Gaza. Thank God,
and I don't say thank God lightly. Thank God. Donald
Trump was elected if only for the fact that he

(31:28):
understands the realities in the Middle East far more clearly.
The prior administration's misunderstanding of the nature of Hamas, their
misunderstanding of the nature of the connection between Hamas Hasabala
and Iran and the Jutis, it was an ignorance that
really was diplomatic malpractice. This administration at least understands the

(31:53):
nature of Hamas, understands the nature of Isabella and Iran,
and understands and the UTIs, and understand stands that these
are not only enemies of Israel, but very much enemies
of the United States of America. And this is harder
that Israel can who it has to do to save
the future for Israel, and I believe ultimately serve our
purposes in the Middle East in a very real way

(32:15):
without any American boots on the ground.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
This is this is the thing that's driven me crazy,
this for the last two years. Is what in the
heck is the Biden administration thinking?

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Wait, wait Erica. That's what I was going to say
in David. I think it's it's scholarly analytics. But the
one point that I would disagree with you on is
I don't think the Biden administration misunderstood. I think the
Biden administration was intentional. It was a it was an
extent because their worldview of the Middle East was was

(32:50):
centered on Iran as the key player in the Middle East,
and they were trying to remake I mean, the Jews are.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Collades and Israel would have been collateral damage, right.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
I think this was a an extension of the Obama
foreign policy by and large, I mean, slightly different, but
carried out through the Biden years. So I don't I
have a hard time thinking that that was a misunderstanding.
I mean you know, they started right after October seventh
calling for a proportionate response.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
I just say, there's never been a two state solution
for as long as I have been alive on this earth. Like,
these people hate us, they hate Israel.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
Why are you trying to be reasonable?

Speaker 2 (33:34):
David? I'm like the introduce you to Erica, my better half.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
It's so just.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
I appreciate Eric's maddening because it will drive you insane.
And you're right, Robert, you know, in the sense, I'm
giving them too much credit because I think some of
it was confusion. Look, when you lack a moral compass,
when you lack moral clarity, it's easy to get confused.
And I think some of them are just confused. But
you're right some of them m damn on what they
were doing. But they but they were afraid of their base.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
They were right, that's exactly right.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Party. They wanted the Arab boats in Michigan and so
thro Israel to the wolves in order to win reelection,
given how anti Israel other parties become. So at best,
they were confused and ignorant, And you're probably right many
of them weren't so good. They knew damn all that
they were doing, and they were prepared to do it,

(34:29):
and this is so they said. I said to my
wife before election that my wife's Israeli. You know, when
I was running for office, I was running here in
Nevada and I was not successful. We were having a
conversation and first thing we said was what would you
rather have you David win your race for Assembly or
Trump win? And I thought about and I said Trump,

(34:51):
I'd rather lose than have Trump win. And then then
my wife's question was why, And I said, well, if
if Trump loses, I'm worried for the future that of
the United States.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Of the games Trump lost, I'm worried, you.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
Know, for our border, for our culture, you know, for
our security. But I said, I'm even more worried for Israel,
because I think Israelis will pay the price for Americans
stupidity first. We will pay later. And so this victory
is given a window and breathing space for us, for
the United States, and more immediately, it's given a window

(35:25):
and breathing space for Israel to do what it has
to do. And got to be grateful for that.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Before the Abraham Accords, when was the last time there
was a peace treaty in the Middle East that was respected.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
You know, there were the Oslo Accords. Okay, okay, the
OO towards of the nineteen nineties proved to be a
tremendous failure. And you have to ask why. And this
brings us back to my cousin Robert. But uh, you know,
rab Raben and R five shake hands in the White

(35:59):
House lawn and this are to process to gradually transfer
the land of Judaean, Samaria, the West Bank and Gaza
to the control of the Palestinan authority. Immediately Hamas starts
blowing up buses, restaurants and cafes. Why we have a
peace treaty, We're going to hand over all this land
to the Palestinians. Mos didn't want peace, so they were

(36:24):
they weren't They weren't created, you know, because of the
alleged occupation. They were created to stop the process by
which a Palestinian state was going to be created, because
that Palestinian state would have lived side by side with
the Jewish state. And anyone who has any confusion about this,
of course, you have to read the Hamas Charter, which
makes their intentions pretty clear. In the preamble, which states Israel.

(36:48):
Israel will exist and continue to exist until Islam will
obliterate it. You have to thank them for their honesty.
What happened though, is Yasir Arafat running the palace Stindian authority,
realized that blowing up Israelis made Hamas extraordinarily popular on
the Arab street. So he said, Gee, if I want
to stay popular, I too must blow up Israelis. And

(37:11):
I say Israelis, not Jews, because the people blown up
in the second into Fada, or not just Israeli Jews.
There were Israeli Muslims and Israeli Christians together, and so
you had this competition to see who cold blow up
more Israelis that ultimately doomed the peace deal, in which
Ahud Barak had offered Yaser Arafat everything they claimed. They

(37:35):
wanted a Palestinian state in Gaza, ninety four percent of
the West Bank, some land from Israel to look up
for that six percent I wanted to keep, and half
of Jerusalem Arab East Jerusalem would have been the capital
of the Palestinian state. And so a lot of Israelis
learned from this Barak offer and Arafat's violent rejection of

(37:56):
that offer in the Second Intefada, blowing up Israelis, competing
with famostasy, who could murder more Israelis. It killed the
Israeli left. They realized, we don't have a partner here
for peace. Somehow that lesson in reality didn't translate to
the American left, but it killed the Israeli left and
any left doing Israelis that were remaining, any left doing Israelis.
So somehow clung to this dream that we have a

(38:18):
partner for peace, despite the fact that our most generous
peace offer was met with a terror, a wave of
terror violence. Any of them that were left were either
literally murdered on October seventh, because a lot of the kibusim,
a lot of the kibbutz is near the Gaza border,
were the ones that were overrun by Hamas terrorists, they.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Were specifically targeted. They were specifically targeted because of that.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
Yeah, they were either literally murdered on October seventh, or
they finally woke up on October seventh. No one in
Israel believes there is a partner for peace that once
a Palestinian state living side by side with Israel. Yet somehow,
this this second lesson, the second dose of reality has
not translated to the American left instead, as you know,
October seventh happens in on October eighth, they're already protesting

(39:03):
Israel before Israel even responded, before Israel could even bury
the dead. They're protesting Israel on the streets of New York, yep.
And two days later, October tenth, you know, thirty groups
on Harvard University campus is blaming Israel for the mass
of violence of our Wow. So there's a real disconnect

(39:23):
now between the Israeli left that lives in the real
world and the American left that lives in some very
strange place.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
So, if so, what do you think about ma Mood
Khalil getting deported?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
The guy that was running the Columba is.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Not deported yet right now.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
I think he's in Texas jail. I think they moved
him from Jersey to Texas.

Speaker 5 (39:44):
Yeah. Well, you know, just like we started with an
interesting legal issue, this too is an interesting issue. They
you know, they chose someone who not only is on
a student visa. Look, if you're just here on a
student visa and you participate in these in these protests,
that that violate the law. And this is not just expression,
This is not just speech. This is a violation of

(40:06):
the law and the rules of the campuses. They should
be on the next plane out. Mam Khalil is also
a Green Heart card, and so it creates a question
of what is the process true you can expel a
green card holder, and I think we need to see
what that process is. I don't know what it is,
but I think Marco Rubio, Secretary of State. Rubio said

(40:28):
it very well when he said, look, had he been
honest with us when he applied for his green card?
Had he told us when he applied for his green card?
I want to come in and I want to disrupt
one of the top universities in America. I want to
violate the rules of that university and the laws of
the City of New York. And I want to and

(40:48):
I want to be a leader in an organization that
expresses sympathy for a terrorist group as defined by the
United States. We probably wouldn't have given him the green card,
and shouldn't there be a mechanism by which we could
take away that green car. I think that's a compelling case.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
So I want to end it. I want to end
this segment where we started, which.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Jeez, no, he has another hour and talk to us.
So many questions.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, okay, well, I mean no, that's up to you.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
But I will tell you this goes back to the
Alien Enemies Act of seventeen ninety eight because the last
time it was used was not during World War Two.
The last time the Act was used was September eighth,
nineteen forty five, and the war was officially declared over

(41:41):
on September fifth. But on September eighth, President Harry Truman
also used the Act to round up Hispanics in the
country that were enemy, that were enemies of America and
get rid of them.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
And if I can find my here we go.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
So on September eighth, nineteen four five, Truman issued Presidential
Proclamation dot dot, which authorized the Secretary of State to
remove enemy aliens that have been sent to the United
States from Latin American countries.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
Interesting. I think that, I mean, I think there was
some terrorism at the time from Puerto Rican separatists. Yep,
that's very there's.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
The original documentary. I just have a reprint. You're going
to show me up, Ben, is that what you're doing?

Speaker 5 (42:26):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (42:27):
The last thing I do want to talk about, though,
is Reclaiming Israel's History, which was the book?

Speaker 2 (42:33):
And you have three or four or five books. I
know you've got three at least, but a lot of books.
A smart guy in there, David. You talk about some
of the myths about Israel.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Right, you talk about some of the myths, whether it's
the apartheid myth at Israel's an apartheid country, or you know, genocide.
But for our listeners, what's the greatest myth? Well, first
of all, here's your book, right, Reclaiming Israel's well standing
with it?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Israel Isn't is an older book. I I have that
one as well. But Reclaiming Israel's History is a lot
about the myths. What's the single greatest myth that the
college kids have on the campus.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
So it's and this is why, this is why, by
the way, things have gotten so bad on the campus.
What's dominated the campus, what's dominated the far left in
recent years, it's been sort of this woke racial ideology
that everything is race, everything is race, that if you're

(43:33):
if you're of color, you are more virtuous and and
discriminated against. If you're white, you are the problem. You are,
you are racist. Even if you don't realize it. And
what what's happened is it's been very easy for those
who hate Israel plug Israel into this worldview and say,

(43:56):
guess what when it comes to Israel, we're talking about
a white people, the Jews, the Israelis. We're persecuting the
noble people of color, the Palestinians.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
The first the noble savages.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
The first great sin is racism. What's the second great
sin on the college campus today, colonialism? Well, guess what.
These whites who came to Israel are Europeans who have
no connection to Israel. They're persecuting and colonizing and indigenous
people of color, the Palestinians. So the greatest myth or
that Israelis are white colonial settlers from Europe and that

(44:33):
the Palestinians are this noble indigenous people of color. The reality,
of course, is that most Israelis don't trace their roots
back to Europe. Most israel Is actually trace their roots
back to the Muslim Middle East, from which most Jews
were ethnically cleansed. A majority of Israelis Israeli Jews now

(44:56):
trace their roots back to the muzzle Little East. Of course,
those Jews who trace their roots back to Europe. Are
not tracing their roots back to people who had no
connection to the land of Israel. They're tracing their roots
back to Jewish communities that are very much connected to
the Land of Israel, both through DNA and history and
the idea that we're whites. You know, people laugh when
a Jew says we're not white. You know, well, yeah,

(45:18):
look at very white, I'm very pale. Well gee, that
would have been nice, you know, seventy five years ago
when we were sent to death because we were a
different race and inferior race, a race that did not
have the right to live among the race of native Europeans.
So I find a little rich the laughter when we

(45:41):
have to say, wait a minute, we're not exactly white.
We've not exactly been accepted.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Well, and this is the thing, like look at the map.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Okay, this is Israel, like right here, and then everything
else is Muslim majority, everything else I mean, like jew
Israeli's Jews are Middle Eastern technically if you want to be.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Cute about it.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Not technically, I mean, but you.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Know what I mean, Like, that's this the like they're
from this region of the world to act like somehow
it's white people colonizing brown people is just really stupid.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
No, but it sells.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
You see, the narrative cells The issue is not facts.
By the way, in the in the Obama world of
social media driven Obama for America sort of monopolize social media,
it's not about truth. It's about what sells, and it's
about belongingness and social acceptance, and it's about the narrative

(46:51):
that they can sell.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
David, where am I wrong on this?

Speaker 5 (46:54):
You're absolutely right. So that's why the myth is so prevalent.
The myth is so easy to believe, and people are
are ready to believe it. But that's also why the
truth is so powerful, because when we take students to Israel,
I don't care how much they believe this myth. I
don't care how much they were anti Israel, and they
land in the multi racial and multicultural celebration that is
the modern state of Israel. Even a bad trip to Israel,

(47:17):
they say, you know what I was lied to. This
isn't what they told me. Israelis are not white, Israelis
are not foreign to this land, and the Palestinians are
not exactly the race of Martin Luther King juniors I
was led to believe. They also encounter the fact that

(47:38):
suicide bombing is very popular among Palestinians. October seventh, It
was very popular among Palestinians. And so they learned that
the myths about both sides that they were taught are
not true. And at a minimum, they realize this is
much more complex than they were led to believe. Yeah,
and it is true that opening that we can teach
the truth. But you know, it's interesting, it's interesting anti Semits.

(48:04):
Whatever the great evil of the day is the anti
SEMITI will say the Jews are responsible for it. Right.
If capitalism is the enemy, capitalism is the enemy, who's
the great capitalist to the Jews? Trotsky was a Jew? Right,

(48:24):
So if the great line today is racism and colonialism,
guess who are the most racist of the colonizers. The
greatest story and history of an indigenous people surviving of
violent exile and returning to their homeland, the Jewish people

(48:46):
created in the Land of Israel, created in Judea, returned
to Judea in peace to live alongside others who have
moved there in the interim. It's a really powerful story
and when people get to connect with the story and
see the truth. They changed their minds. But boy, do
we have a lot of work in telling the story.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
And that's the modern miracle of Israel. Right. Israel Appreciation
Day was ancient hope, modern miracle. But David, I want
to thank you for coming. Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
We've been talking with David Bragg, executive director of Mccabee
Task Force, and so many other things, author Politico, consulting
former chief of staff, to center respector.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I mean, it's a long list. David, you next time
send me the condensed version. But out I'm old.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
If you point out and if you point out Erica
that I'm older, I'm done. David, I want to thank
you for coming on, thank you for being part of
Israel Appreciation Day, and thank you for sharing it with us.
So much knowledge about Israel. Where can they contact you?
Where can they reach you? Where can they get the book?

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Well? Thank you? Yeah, I'm on Twitter. I'm David K. Brogg,
David K. Broggy as boy r O g Our website
is for the Maccabee Task Forces mactaskforce dot org. It's
m AC for mac mac Task Force one word dot org.
And the book Reclaiming Israel's History is on Amazon.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Yeah, get it, y'all. Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
And I promise to people because I have a lot
of friends who know a lot about Israel, and when
I told him my book was out, and I said,
let me make you this promise. If you've been immersed
in Israel your whole life, I promise you will learn
new things by reading my book, because I spent a
long time trying to find new things, to reclaim bits
and pieces of Israel's history that we've forgotten that when

(50:43):
you know them, really do show you the justice of
Israel's existence and the justice of Israel's struggle for survival.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Ye amen, it's been a pleasure than Erica.

Speaker 5 (50:54):
Thank you, Robert, always a pleasure to see you.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Thank you, David.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Thanks, I'll see you soon.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Oh my gosh, I'm off.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
I'm real fired up now, I'm super dey duper fired up.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
This is this is you know, dude. Okay, hold on,
let me go back to the map for a second.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Would you go back in the map please?

Speaker 1 (51:14):
So I wonder how much of the change in support
is because of the less people being involved in the
church or anything, Because I when I'm reading my Bible
and I'm reading Exodus jet you know, and you know,

(51:35):
Moses and leading his people and all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Like I can look on the map and go, my
people that the Messiah that I follow.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Was born right here, you know, was or over here
somewhere Bethlehem, you know, in over here. And then they
were eggs, and then they were and then they had
to because of famine and all this crazy stuff.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
They went to Egypt and they were slaves for one
of years and then they got to go home. This
is the home of the Jews. Like, what are you
talking about? You don't even have to.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Be Christian to know that that's history two thousand years
two thousand years ago.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
Excuse me, Erica, when we were talking about the Enemy
Aliens Act of seventeen ninety eight. The reason most people
don't notice because they were absent from school that day
inst when it was taught, or they were in a
school where the history just wasn't taught. If they're not
teaching the history of this country, yes, you really think

(52:37):
they're teaching the history of another country.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
No, no, they're not, No, I hear you.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
But that's why there's so much work to do. It,
and that's why. Look, the war on religion in this
country is purposeful. Yeah, it's with intent, that's right. And
we could spend a whole lot of other shows toscussing
why there's this intent. But but it goes back to
Obama and if you and his worldview David brog was correct,

(53:09):
it's not just in Israel is Barack Obama, because of
his upbringing, saw the United States and Israel as colonial
powers and oppressors. And that was the worldview with which
he manipulated foreign policy to try to lack of a
better term, subjugate Israel in world politics and and raise

(53:30):
up Iran. Why else do you, you know, give them
billions of dollars in the middle of the night, right,
why else?

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Why else do you cultivate.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
The Muslim Brotherhood, which is really the father or organization
of Hamas.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Right, They're they're an offshoot of the Muslim brotherhoods. Right.
So there's there's a whole lot more to it than that.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
And I do not claim to have the knowledge or
background that David does, but at a high level, that's
what we're.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Talking about, Yeah, man oh Man.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
So I still, however, want to get back to the
fact that I love your shirt. Yeah, and it's nice merch.
And here's the truth.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
It's both partially a US flag and the Israeli flag
and the byeline on the shirt if you can lift
it up a little more without you know, flashing us,
which is together we win, because I know I had
to go there, because because.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Together we do win, and separate we lose.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Right because this battle there is a line between the
Western values that Israel represents and the technology and everything
else and the Judeo Christian slash question values here.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
So the if you turn around, don't turn around. But
the backside of the search says, you know, separate we lose.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
I'm just kidding, but oh it does it? No, No,
it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Real Appreciation Day twenty twenty four. So where can they
get the merch?

Speaker 3 (54:51):
You guys, you're going to go to Israel Appreciation Day?

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Hold on, let me share on my screen again. Nice
nice shirt, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Yeah, I love it. It's so soft and comfy and
it fits perfectly.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
So for those of you out there, this is a
small so it's really like unisex sizes. So if you're
a lady ordering something, order a size down from what
you would normally order oop. So if you go and
you click on the merch link, it opens up our store.

(55:23):
The lady's apparel is probably lady sized, but I think
the like, the stuff that's unisex is union is basically
men's size.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Do you think the stuff that's uni sex is unisex?
Is this like what color is George Washington's white horse?

Speaker 5 (55:36):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Right, I think the stuff that's uni sex is uni sex.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
So so, since I'm the chairman of Israel Abraation Day
Appreciation Day, where's my.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Merch in Florida?

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (55:46):
I know shit, So learn more about Israel Appreciation Day
you can check out are real And you guys, are
we like to say anything about what's currently happening?

Speaker 2 (56:01):
You are?

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Because, so get ready for twenty Israel Appreciation Day twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Well, actually get ready for Israel Appreciation Data Documentary, because
what we're doing is doing a full fledged film, a
documentary which is going to be off the charts about
what makes Israel special, and.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
We'll reach charts and minds.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
Then there's Israel Appreciation Day twenty twenty five, which will
be in the fall as well.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Yes, and you guys for real, like I put my
water in this forever ago and it's still freezing cold.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
It's actually kind of annoying because like I like room
temperature water.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
But seriously, this is super good. It's keeping my water
cold for hours. It's freaking awesome.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
So get get your water model with this awesome freaking
art on it.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Yo, you get art on a T shirt. I'm just saying,
support the arts and support Israel. Yes, Eric's yes, Robert,
it's that time.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
It's that time. We're saying goodbye.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
We are goodbye sweetheunt, Well, it's time to go.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Don't give up your day job.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
That's okay, But it's dead people. You said you only
listen to music by dead people.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Are you dead?

Speaker 1 (57:17):
It's a dead person that's saying it originally probably maybe
I don't know, all right.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Since you're clearly alive, right, Ben, help me out here?
Ben just kidding.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
He can't mute me.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
No, you guys, let's uh let's end today. Instead of
our usual uh outro we're going to leave with the
the the Israel Appreciation Day video. So say thank you
to our sponsors and we'll see you next time.

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