Five for Fighting’s John Ondrasik on Using His Voice to Stand with Israel

Join Robert and Ericka as they welcome hit singer-songwriter John Ondrasik to Of The People to discuss his pro-Israel advocacy and why using his platform to stand for truth, freedom, and justice matters now more than ever.

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About Our Guest - John Ondrasik:

Known by his stage name Five for Fighting, John’s music captivates listeners with his heartfelt lyrics and memorable melodies. Hits like "Superman" and "100 Years" have become well-known anthems, reflecting the complexities of life and the human experience in a way that resonates with his audience. A steadfast friend of Israel and the Jewish people, Robert and Ericka were honored to collaborate with John at the Israel Appreciation Day 2024 event. His support and dedication is truly making an impact in the fight against antisemitism.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And we're live and we are live and is it
live or is it memory?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hello Erica, Hello Robert, how are you?

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I am good. Nice to be back on of the People.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yes, I missed you. It's weird when you're not here.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Well, I think Lori sat in. I think doctor doctor
Fineman sat in. Just Fine's great as long as she
doesn't replace me. But you know how I like to
start with sort of where's the outrage? Yeah, my favorite
is do you know Jim Acosta is the former CNN reporter?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, he quit, They put what did they put him
to the midnight spot and then he quit, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on
the way out.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
But so and now, because Trump, you know, the Trump
White House is moving the ap you know, they're not
allowed on Air Force one because they.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Refuse to call it the Gulf of America versus the
Gulf of Mexico.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
He's trying to organize a boycott of the you know,
the established reporters, you know, to not cover any presidential events,
as if if you don't have the New York Times
or the Washington Post or CNN, you'd be losing anything that.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Is that is in okay, okay, so just push everybody
to alternative media even further. Everybody's already leaving all of
these outlets anyway. You know what, good riots.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Here's the truth. Truth, the truth is.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
The reason Trump won was because he found a way
to go around the establishment media. So if they removed themselves,
although you know, obviously, look, if you get fired from CNN,
that's about as low as low can be because they
already have almost no ratings to begin with. But the
thing that I'm constantly amazed at, you know, the people
objecting to renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf

(01:45):
of America are the.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Same people that were, okay, renaming the.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Cleveland Indians and the Washington Redskins, renaming you know, Anton Miiama, Sierra.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Rightodas or Hood and all the military bases.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
But you can't rename you know, body of just in
any of it.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
So that's my covetching to start the show for the day,
And ladies and gentlemen, stay tuned. We have singer songwriter
pop star John and rossiic five for Fighting going to
join us a little later on in the beginning of
the show.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
But right now, let's roll them Erica.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Hello, Hello, and welcome to of the people, democracy versus bureaucracy,

(02:45):
Ladies and gentlemen, Let's cut to the chase.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
As we are now seeing under Trump two point zero,
the federal government is a bloated, wasteful bureaucracy that's only
interested in self preservation and promoting a wok agenda. And
how anyone can defend the monstrosity that is the federal
government as if it's some sort of sacred institution is
honestly politics at it's worst. The question was really never

(03:11):
whether the bureaucracy unquote the administrative state exists, but how
long we are willing to let it continue to bleed
America's dry while failing miserably at the very tasks that
it's supposed to handle. So let's talk a little bit
about waste, and by waste, I mean jaw dropping, abusive waste.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Let's start with the Pentagon.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
The US Department of Defense has failed multiple audits in
recent years and they literally cannot account for trillions of dollars.
And we're talking about the Department of Defense whose annual
spending is more than most countries' GDP, and they admit
they have no idea where millions where billions. Excuse me,
let's try it out again. Trillions of taxpayer dollars are going.

(03:55):
As recently as twenty twenty one, the Pentagon couldn't account
for two point three trillion dollars of its own assets,
notwithstanding what they just what they left in Afghanistan. And
that's the tip of the iceberg. This is our government
who's supposed to win wars and keep us safe and
they can't even keep track of their own spending. Did
anybody face any serious consequences for that? Of course done.

(04:18):
But it gets worse the deeper you look. Let's look
at federal contracting. The government hands out billions and billions
of dollars to contracts to private companies every year, and
more often than not, they're poorly managed, wasteful, and overinflated.
And you know that whole what is it lexus? In
the in the parking lot scenario, it's alive and well
in federal procurement spending, where the contractors regularly deliver subpar

(04:44):
products at inflated prices, and again no real consequences. And
then there is the famous or infamous F thirty five
fighter jet. If anyone remembers that perfect example, originally priced
at two hundred and thirty three billion, is now overrun
to one point seven trillion, and it is still not

(05:05):
fully functional. And yet year after year, programs like these
are defended as if failure they can't.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Fail because it would be such an epics problem. Well,
it is an epic problem.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
And what really hits personally home for me is look
at the VA, the Department of Veterans Affairs, which is
another sacred cow of the federal government. And this one, folks,
makes me mad because the VA is failing the very
people who sacrifice their lives for this country. And we're
talking about veterans who sometimes wait years for medical care,

(05:41):
some even dying before they get the care that they need,
all the same time that the VA's budget has grown
exponentially over the years and yet failing to deliver the
proper care to our veterans.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
Why.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
It's simple, because the bureaucracy that.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Runs the VA is bloated and and simply can't deliver
the services it was designed to.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
So you have the bureaucrats and the union reps defending
the agency.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
And their solution is what it always is, just throw
more money at it, that'll solve the problem. Throwing more
money in education doesn't work. I defy anyone to show
me an example where it does. And throwing more money
at a bureaucracy surely doesn't work. And the truth of
the matter is that our veterans deserve vetter and this
country owes them, and we are failing them because of
bureaucratic waste and incompetence. Unless you think I'm not going

(06:31):
to go there, let's talk about the ongoing defense of
this woke federal Civil Service.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Employees union and those things. This is not about ideology
or social progress.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
It's about that these agencies only care and focus on
their pet projects diversity, dei quotas, and climate change, while
the basic government functions like ooh, I don't know, infrastructure maintenance,
education fall apart at the same time, because the truth
is that the federalployees are more interested in pushing their

(07:01):
progressive social policies than actually solving the world's problems. And
across government we see that the solution from the bureaucrats
is always hire more people and spend more tax dollars.
We call that OPM other people's money, in this case,
yours in mind, and no surprise, who's defending the status quo.
The Democrats and the unions, and they position themselves as

(07:25):
some sort of champion of the people. But they're the
ones that are clinging to the bloated, wasteful bureaucracy that's
obviously broken, and rather than confronting these issues head on,
they continue to defend the inefficiencies, and these bureaucracies are
somehow untouchable, like a broken record. They argue, it's simple,

(07:46):
spend more money, invest more, and hire more civil servants,
and simply they ignore the fact that the civil servants
are the very same people that created and perpetuating the
waste and failure to begin with, right defending a system
that already doesn't work. So what's really happening here.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
It's not just.

Speaker 7 (08:05):
About bad governance. It's a betrayal of the people because
the same people, year after year are expected to foot
the bill. That's you and me for this endless cycle
of waste, fraud, and inefficiency. And it's the same hard
earned dollars poured into the system that doesn't produce the results.
And the reality is, and the reason Trump got reelected

(08:25):
with a mandate, I might add, so if we don't
start holding these bureaucrats accountable with real reform and transparency,
we're allowing the very system that meant to serve us
to rob us. Democracy means government by the people and
more importantly, for the people. But when politicians and unions

(08:46):
defend a bureaucratic monstrosity that.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Only works for itself, it's no longer democracy. It's really
a parasite masquerading as a democracy. And it's long past
time we stop pretending this is working. The country can't
afford to keep defending the waste and the fraud and
the inefficiency. The American people just voted for a change,
for something better, and honestly, it's long past time.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
That we demanded.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
And that's the monologue, Erica. Come on and see what
happens when you give me a week off. I become
long winded and I get angry.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
There's a lot to be mad about right now, Robert,
and it's understandable. Although there we got a lot of wins.
You know, I will say, at least all of the
stuff that we've all known forever is now being uncovered
and brought out to the light.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
So speaking of bringing brought out into the light, that's
a good intro to our very special guest. Grammy nominated
singer songwriter two albums, by the way, that have gone platinum.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Songs been featured over I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
You're a couple hundred movies and TV shows and you know,
and I will tell you that I think that John,
You're one of the reasons that Justin Trudeau was finally
pushed out.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
We we we'll talk about your you. We'll talk about
your your your hockey thing.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
In second most people don't you know your thing for hockey,
But ladies and gentlemen. Very proud to have with us
of the people and proud that he was part of
the inaugural Israel Appreciation Day singer songwriter Five for Fighting,
John and Russic.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Welcome to the people, John.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Thank you, Robert, thank you, Erica. Great to be with you.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, thank you for having us.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Now, before we get into anything serious, most people don't
know where five for Fighting came from. Now, I went
to school in Montreal. I went to the original Forum.
So you know about neck right, I mean, it was okay,
everything was hockey. I did learn, by the way, I'm
not a hockey guy, right t hockey. I tried hockey once.

(10:47):
Somebody checked me into the boards. I you know, I
went after him and like five guys beat me to
a pulp.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I went, I think I'm dealt with with hockey.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
Like justin Trudeo.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Well, I at least tried to play, that's true.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
So five dayusy doing blackface to pey.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Right, So five for Fighting comes from where?

Speaker 6 (11:06):
Well, for those who have watched the uh, the American
Canadian hockey games just the other night, you only need
to watch five seconds because there were three fights. And
in the NHL, if you fight, you're a bad boy
and you get five minutes in the penalty box. But
back in the day, in the late nineties, uh, the
male singer songwriter did not exist. It was boy band's

(11:28):
Little Affair Brunch music in the record label said we
need a band name, and I just gone to a
hockey game, and of course, Robert you remember the great
Marty McSorley, who was Wayne Gretzky's bodyguard guard, gotten a
couple of fights, and I said, well, how about a
band name called Fight for Fighting? Expecting them to hate it,
and they're like, we love it.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
I go, you're crazy.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
Sounds a heavy metal bank, But uh, here we are
twenty some years later. Five for fighting go, Kings go.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
And for the people five meaning it's a major penalty
in hockey. You get five minutes in the box as
opposed to as opposed to.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Two minutes in the box go to exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
So, so Erica, I knew you didn't know that, So
I did this for your advoctation, know that and for
our listeners.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
I did not know that. How do you get that?

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Like?

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Do people generally know that? It's a hockey reference?

Speaker 6 (12:16):
You can tell where I am in relation to the
equator by how many people know the further north I go.
People get the fire for fighting thing. Of course in
Canada they all love five for Fighting. They don't even
care about the music. But I'm a so cowboy. I
kind of grew up with the Kings and when Wayne came,
big hockey, big sports fans. So it's actually had a

(12:36):
great kind of payoff and that I've been able to
play some incredible events Daytona, five hundred outdoor hockey games,
all Star games, Monday Night football and you know what,
Jon Adrassa doesn't play those gigs, but five for Fighting does.
So it's been worth it at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
That I love it. Okay, Can I ask maybe a
salacious question, of course. Okay, this is not on the
Robert don't get mad at me. Okay, So what is
your take on the America Canada hockey game that just
happened last week where everybody was freaking beating each other
up the whole time?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
It was the greatest thing I've ever seen, second greatest
nineteen eighty.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
Well, you didn't let me finish. I was gonna say,
perhaps the best thing for hockey since the Miracle, since
the Miracle, I mean, I think and again, you know,
a lot of the Canadians play on our favorite teams.
They play on the Kings, and so you know, it's
it's just a wonderful spectacle. It's wonderful for people who
are not hockey fans that kind of got a look

(13:37):
into the game. We all saw the NBA All Star
weekend was a disaster, so people were flipping around. They
found an incredible game. And look those guys playing for
their country. Half of them are injured. Many can't play
Thursday in the final because they've played so hard. Can
you imagine an All Star game where people care so
much about playing for their country. So I have a

(13:57):
lot of respect for these players because you know, so
many other sports they wouldn't even give the time of day.
But it's fantastic. There should be a great game Thursday night.
Let's hope the US wins, and let's hope. Let's hope
they don't have three fights in the first nine seconds,
because I don't know if we'd have enough players.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
After that, there'd be nobody left. There's going to be
the goalie and like one.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Guy on the other team. I was.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
I was in Montreal at McGill at nineteen eighty not
at White Face right, not not when they were playing,
but we had a massive crowd, mostly of Americans and
it was still he brings chills. How special that that
evening was. I mean, it was just I mean, the
emotions of hockey in any event. We didn't bring you
on to talk about hockey, but yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,

(14:43):
you have been a singer songwriter, Grammy nominated. I might
add ladies and gentlemen for thirty years, forty years, but
your activism, you've always been engaged in the community and
in service and things like that.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
But you know, I know, and you know and I've talked
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Off camera, especially with his Real Appreciation Day, But your
activism really sort of took on a whole new meeting
after October seventh, right, and you're you've been working with
the hostage families, and we just read that the Bebas
family we just found out was the mother and two
kids in when they were in captivity.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Were just murdered and they're going to get the bodies back.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
I mean, how do you maintain your focus and your
what I would call positive outlook. I mean, you know,
you're driven, You're you're determined, you're trying to make a difference,
and I think you do.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
But when you have news like that, I mean, it
just I don't. I don't know how to.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Move the message when when when there's that kind of
ugliness and brutality on the other side.

Speaker 6 (15:41):
Now I hear you it certainly, you know, breaks your soul,
breaks your faith in humanity, and it's a punch in
the gut after punch in the gut. But you know,
I think, uh, A switch went off for me when
I performed Superman at the concert for New York after
nine to eleven. I saw personally how music can be

(16:02):
critical to a nation's soul, a nation's trauma. It wasn't
just my song, It was the who blowing the roof
off Madison Square Garden, many artists, but I saw how
music can matter and weighs nothing else can. It can
break through through walls, it can break through nations, it
can provide compassion, and somebody will listen to a song

(16:23):
where they don't necessarily will listen to words. So I've
seen how music is so important. And as you said,
you know, I've never been someone who stands on a
soapbox and preaches my worldview. Celebrities that do that annoy me.
But it really starting Robert after Afghanistan, with the Afghan withdrawal,
abandoning are citizens, thirteen soldiers killed abandoning or Afghan allies,

(16:47):
and I wrote a song about that called Blood in
My Hands that kind of took on a life I
can imagine. Went to Ukraine, did a song with Ukrainian Orchestra.
But October seventh was certainly different because it was like
nine to eleven all over again, and I really didn't
have an intent on writing a song about it. What
do you there's as you said, there's there's no words
no song that can express the horror of that. But

(17:08):
when we saw the world, the media, the UN, the
Rashida to leeds of the world, our college campuses basically
becoming Hamas allies, I could not be silent and wrote, okay,
We're not okay. And it took on again. It took
on a lot I could imagine. But to me, it's
really about good versus evil. It's not about religion, it's

(17:28):
not about a group of people. It's good versus evil.
Israel's on the good side, and that's why I'm with them.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
No, and I appreciate that, and and that is profound.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
I guess where I have sometimes a hard time in
all candor and I talked about this.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
You know, the hostages. I lived through the around hostage crisis.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
The names of the hostages were there every day, the
newspapers were calling for their release. You know, yes, there
Israeli hostages, there were, but there's American hostages still. And
yet you know it's different now with President Trump in office.
But you know, we went through you know how many
you know, a year and a half, five hundred days?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Are we have five hundred days now?

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
And I used to say to people what hostages.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
There are no hostages, and they would look at me
sort of they cocked their head, and I said, if
there were hostages, they would be on the front page
of every newspaper on every day. The president would be
calling for the release of the hostages.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
And it just wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
And I don't understand the difference, right, I mean, it's
just and I think it comes down to something because
I want to talk about this whole anti Semitism thing,
is there are there seems to me a double standard
when you know Israel versus the world, and you mentioned
the UN, especially at the UN.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Oh, yeah, that is like one of the most corrupt
government organizations. Who who takes anything they say seriously anymore?

Speaker 6 (18:51):
No, I wrote, Yeah, I wrote an op ed in
the Wall Street Journal about exactly what you're talking about. Look,
we're old enough to remember a yellow ribbon around every
tree that the hostages led the newscast every single night.
There were five American hostages. And the fact that people
didn't know their names goes back to my song we
are not okay. Something is broken in the culture. And

(19:12):
I'll tell you, I'll tell you a good illustration of
that too. Imagine an alternate universe. Israel were the maniacs,
they were the bad guys, and they captured and took
a bunch of people hostage. And there were there were
Palestinian hostages in Israel that would lead the news every
night that DNN they have a counter for days, that

(19:33):
would be in the Wash, in the in the Washington Post,
the Wall Street Journal, event of course the New York Times.
But it just shows how the world has flipped on
its head. We've lost our soul, We've lost our sanity. Unfortunately,
Israel and Jewish people bear the brunt of that, but
this goes way beyond Israel and Jewish people. It's pure Marxism.
That's what's happening. That's what's taking over our college campuses.

(19:55):
But it is something that I think there's no excuse for.
But like you said, we have got some wins. We're
seeing sanity and common sense stand up again. And I
do think there is a wave of consciousness running across
not just America but the world. And I'm encouraged by that.
But the fact that you're right that we don't know

(20:17):
the names of our hostages, along with you know, Newport's
at USC students ripping their posters down. It's a disgrace
and there's been a lot of disgraces the last year
and a half. But hopefully things are on the upswing. Wow,
And I.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Hope things are on the upswing, and I believe that
they are.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
What do you make of the out of the box
proposal for I would say Judea, but the media would
call it Gaza, right, I mean, what's what's your take
on that?

Speaker 6 (20:47):
Well? I really want to play the Trump Hotel Gaza,
you know, I look forward to the fat Gate. Look,
I think we've seen this pattern over and over again.
We cannot allow Hamas whatever you want to call them,
the palacing authority to refit, retool, build more tunnels, start

(21:08):
the cycle over again across the border from Israel. It
cannot happen again. And I think, you know, Trump always
tries to like inflame the headlines, but it's negotiating tactic.
And you look, you already see results. You see Egypt,
but at least there countries coming to the table saying, well, no,
we'll rebuild Gaza. So I think whatever it ends up being,

(21:31):
you cannot have a death cult, a generational death cult,
existing across the border from Israel. You cannot Israel cannot
have that. And now finally with Rubio and President Trump
JD Vance, Israel has a real ally in America. So
I think you're going to get some big changes. There's
not going to be people hamstringing Israel. We're not having

(21:54):
Tony Lincoln saying well, if Israel doesn't change their ways,
they're indistinguishable from Hamas. You don't have that madness. So look, look,
I wait for results with Trump, you know, I wait
for results. I think the idea though, and net Yahu
just said that yesterday, he said, you're right, the only
way that we can have any sort of piece is
to not have the death crawl across the border. And

(22:17):
I think that will be the result, one way or
the other. Yep.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
And you know, and the thing that always frustrated me
was right after October seventh was the immoral equivalence coming
out of.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
The White House, right, and.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
The concept of well, Israel needs to have a proportionate response.
And my response, My response was, so you want Israel
to burn babies alive, rape women and cut off their genitalia.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Would that be a proportional response, right? I mean, it's
so yeah, it looks it is refreshing.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
I want to, however, because I think this is so insidious, right,
you play around the world. We just saw the Munich
Security Conference in Germany. Obviously, I think Vice President of
Dvance gave a blisteringly good speech, historic speech Churchillian.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Right, I mean he didn't quite have that lilt or
accent that Churtill did, but it was Churchillian in its
in its magnitude.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Would I would, certainly for the future, I agree, I agree, right,
But then you have and Eric, if you're still here,
you mentioned Senator Ruby, I excuse me, Secretary of State Rubio,
who just was on sixty minutes or maybe not sixty minutes,
she was on CBS. Yeah, you know the fact that
they can pigeonhole something and get it so wrong.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I'm going to play this real quick and get your reaction.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
I think you've probably seen it, and for our audience,
this is basically where you have CBS anchor Margaret Brannan
who basically says that the Holocaust was brought around because
free speech was weaponized. Right, I mean, that was that
was the argument. And there's more wrong you couldn't be.
But if you haven't seen it, ladies, and gentlemen, take
a peek. Let's roll this one, Lord Reddick.

Speaker 8 (23:57):
Well, he was standing in a country where speech was
weaponized to kentuct a genocide, and he met with the
head of a political party that has far right views
and some historic ties to extreme groups. The context of
that was changing the tone of it. And you know

(24:21):
that that the censorship.

Speaker 9 (24:22):
I disagree with you specifically about the right. I have
to disagree with you. The free speech was not used
to conduct the genocide. The genocide was conducted by an
authoritarian Nazi regime that happened to also be genocidal because
they hated Jews, and they hated minorities, and they hated
those that they had a list of people they hated,
but primarily the Jews. There was no free speech in
Nazi Germany.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
There was none.

Speaker 9 (24:43):
There was also no opposition in Nazi Germany. They were
a sole and only party that governed that country. So
that's not an accurate reflection of history.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
I mean, where do you go with that?

Speaker 3 (24:54):
When the you know, we started with the whole Jim
Acosta wanted to boycout at the White House. You know,
God bless you, Jim Acosta. You know you get drafts
fired from CNN. I don't know how much lower you
can go than that, but yeah, good night, how do
you come back? That you travel around the world, you
play around the world. I will tell you that. So
last you know, December, I was in Italy, I was

(25:15):
in France, and the media there is worse than our
media in terms of its anti Israel, anti Semitic positions,
and that you and we have this domestically.

Speaker 6 (25:25):
Well, first, I have to give Marco credit. He was
much more diplomatic than I would have you know. And look,
nothing in the media surprises me, the idiotsy of the media. Look,
CBS was the same news outlet that doctor Kamala Harris's
interview because they knew that they were basically showing the
behind the curtain. Later that night on sixty minutes, as

(25:47):
you probably saw, they interviewed some folks in Germany who
will basically put you in jail if they don't like
your tweet. And they never asked the question who is
picking what is offensive and what is not? Where does
this lead to? So really, our media has and we've
known this. Look, this is the same media that covered
up for Joe Biden's dementia for three or four years,

(26:08):
So that'sn't surprisingly there. But what does really concern me
is exactly what jd Vance was talking about in Europe.
Literally in Germany, there's a vice chancellor that has filed
over seven hundred lawsuits offenses against people that have called
him an idiot. They are arresting people and putting them

(26:29):
in jail. That should be chilling for everybody. This is
not North Korea, this is not even Putin's Russia. This
is Europe and that should scare all of us. And
thank goodness for jd Vance standing up and telling these
folks what they didn't want to hear because it not
only maybe offends them, but what that does is give
people that have a clear view about what free speech is,

(26:51):
what freedom is, to empower them to speak up and
stop this basically downfall of Europe.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
So you know how much how much of this craziness
is being funded by US AID now that we know
that so much of the media in other countries is
now being fed all this garbage nonsense too, like is
this our fault? Is this actually our fault?

Speaker 6 (27:16):
Well, look, we saw that we paid, we spent three
million dollars supporting Hamas to different NGOs. So you're right,
I think we hit the tip of the iceboard. And
you know, again, the most consequential thing out of this
new administration may be what Elon Musk is doing, really
pulling the cover off, you know, decades of fraud bureaucracy.

(27:37):
And you know, again, how how do how do senators
who make one hundred and some thousand dollars a year,
you know, have sixty million dollars in the bank. You know,
I think all these questions that American people deserve an
answer for. Look, if we can't audit the irs, they
should not be able to audit us. You talked about
the Defense Department. It's like this again. I think I

(27:57):
think with all the misery in the world, there's a
lot of really great things happening. And that's why some
on the left and the media are so scared. They're
so scared because I think there's things that we can't
even imagine yet that are coming down the pike. And
America deserves to know. We need to know, We deserve
to know what's happening, because if we don't know, we

(28:17):
can't change it.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
And the place that you can find that out is
that the American Center for Education and Knowledge, our sponsor.
Let's uh, let's hear from them really quick. Uh and uh,
we'll be.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Right back with and we'll be back with John and
Jossic fire for fighting.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Mister John. All right, y'all, hang on, don't dn't dun't so.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
John, You're not the only one who's fighting. I'm just
not doing it. We're just not doing it on the
ice because I can't skate.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
So I don't want to fight those guys on the
ice either. I'll watch for the man.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, I've never.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Been on ice skates in my entire life, and we'll start.
I know it's shame to me, not even never.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Nope, really I know.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
I know it's like or something. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
It's but terrib ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Singer songwriter John and JOSSI is back with us for
another segment.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
John, before we go, I want to talk about this.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
I'm going to move away from politics, but before we do,
because I want to talk about your music matters challenge,
which I think is really I mean, like you said
before the show, positive upliftings. You know some you know
doing trying to do good as opposed to what we're
talking about, which is sometimes depressing. But I want to
go back to the United Nations because the two things

(29:37):
that I have railed against for a long time is
Number one, I think that the end game in the
Middle East ends and Iran and.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Until you you know, until you cut off the head
of the snake.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
And it doesn't alleviate the China issue, right that China
is really, you know, vying for hegemony. But I do
like Trump's policy about if there can be a deconte
of sorts with Russia and you pull Russia a little
further away from the check orbit, that's helpful, but it
ends an iron But the second thing is it also
ends when you either reform or get rid of the

(30:06):
United Nations.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
And here's why.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Back in nineteen forty eight, the Universal Declaration.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Of Human Rights. I don't know if anybody's ever read this.

Speaker 10 (30:16):
Oh yeah, I want your reaction to this because the
preamble talks about, you know, recognitions of inherent dignity and
freedom and justice and peace in the world for all.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
It goes into Wait, these are my favorite. Article five.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
No one shall be subjected to torture or cruel inhuman
and degrading treatment or punishment h Okay, now do someone
and John, I'm actually out, I'm teaking up, John. I mean,
someone explained to me why the UN has not come
out against the torture and hostage taking. And I mean,
I guess keeping hostages and killing a mother and her

(30:52):
two children would some would come somewhere into torture, cruel
and human and degrading treatment. And we were talking about
that double standard, right, And you can go on and
on with this, mean, it's not worth the favorit's written on.
But the hypocrisy coming out of the UN is the other.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Thing I think we need to change.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
What say you, of course, I mean, look, you have
a combination of Marxist corrupt dictators there as well as
people like European leaders who are oppress or oppress ee wokies,
and the inmates are running the asylum. And it'll be
interesting what Trump does. I think he may wait till
Stephaniak gets in there. I mean, Nikki Haley was very

(31:30):
effective at the UN, and I think Stephaniak also is
going to go tell it like it is. And look,
many of these folks in the Middle East and other countries,
they like a winner. Trump's the winner. So I think
they'll probably be an attempt to save the UN and
establish some you know, some sanity. On the other hand,
if it doesn't like some of these other international criminal courts,

(31:53):
I think, you know, Trump will defund it, pull out,
maybe reconstitute another organization of same countries. But I think
they'll initially try to to save it. And I'm looking
forward to Stepniak getting in there because she she looks
every single day, every single day about the hostages. She
gets it, and I think it's worth giving it a shot.

(32:17):
But yes, of course, the UN, Amnesty International. Look, we
talk about the Beavis family today, the tragedy of the kids.
If the UN organizations like Amnesty, the President of United
States on October eighth, twenty twenty three, would have said,
you release the hostages tomorrow, or we're coming for all
of you, not just in Gaza, but in Katar, everywhere

(32:40):
there are people supporting this death cult. We are coming
for you. The Bebas family would still be alive, as
would be all the hostages. So again, I think it's
it's interesting to see what will happen because we've already
pulled out of who, We've pulled out the Paris Accords,
all these corrupt organizations and the UN is next. Boy,

(33:01):
you know, we've all been railing about the UN for
a long time, but just like we're seeing now, there'll
be accountability. Hegseth just announced yesterday that there's going to
be accountability for those who cause the evacuation of Afghanistan,
like General Millie.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Oh I missed that one, I missed that?

Speaker 6 (33:16):
What did he say? He says that they've already selected
congressional members who will want full investigation into the withdrawal
from Afghanistan and hold those who made the decisions like
General Millie, like General Austin, like Tony Blincoln, responsible and accountable.
And our Afghanists deserve that, just like the world deserves

(33:36):
accountability from these leaders at the UN that are basically hamasikophants.
So I hope we have the same level of clarity
in the next couple of years about exposing these people.
And we know they're on the grift, we know they're
getting paid, they're probably getting usaid that have been leading
this dark, disgusting chapter in the UN, And that will

(33:59):
be a day with the world is a much better place.
So let's hope the world keeps turning in the right
way and the UN one day reflects all of the
values that you just listed, Robert in your initial charter.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, and I think one of the problems is that
predators look for opportunities like this because they know that
there's vulnerable people they can take advantage of. They know
that there is money that they can launder. And it's
that's why it's so, you know, it's so, it's it
would be nice, It would be nice if we could

(34:34):
just have this entity, these entities that exist to do
good things, but there's always people who are gonna mess
it up.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
Well, I would put the blame at the media because frankly,
if if the media stood up and had any spine,
they would basically call a spade a spade. But no,
HAMAS knows that as soon as they make this attack
and they go use human shields, here comes the BBC,
here comes seeing and here comes all the international media. Robert,
you were talking about the media in Europe. They have defenders,

(35:06):
they have advocates, they have they have employees that are
members of HAMAS. So if the media had a soul,
we would not be here and these organizations will not
be able to flourish. But again, As we've seen Jim
Acosta has lost his viewers, the CBS has become a joke.
Trump won despite ninety nine point nine you know, negative

(35:28):
negative in the media. So it is changing. And thank
you Elon Musk for buying Twitter, because if he didn't
do that, I don't think we'd be having this conversation.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, good point.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
No, I think you're right. So listen in the time
we have left. Yes, I want you to have the thoughts.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
What is wait wait, hold on wait wait wait, hold
on really quick, really wait, just really quickly.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
Hang on quick quick.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Brought up the music matters, welly, bring it up.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
We want to talk about this wonderful challenge you have
put out and this is not the first year you've
done this for.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
Yeah, yes, we have. My feeling is that every child
in America deserves a music teacher. My mom, when school
funding was cut, came into our elementary school. She put
on a musical wetside story with all the kids. I
was Tony, I was Mom's son. But look those kids
fifty years later still talked about how that transformed their life.

(36:24):
So let music feel My world is is an organization
to make sure every kid has a music teacher, and
we do a contest that year called the Music Matters
Challenge where people can enter. They can do a version
of their song, our song, Let Music Feel My World
that I wrote with some inner city kids from Chicago
and tell a story about how a music teacher made

(36:44):
a difference in their life. And the winner, as you
can see right there, can win some cash, They can
win a school grant if your school wants to enter,
but most importantly, we provide a full time music teacher
for a school in need that the winner shoes with us.
We already have a full time music teacher and Farragut
Academy in Chicago from the first Music Matters Challenge. And

(37:05):
our goal is We're not going to stop till every
kid in America has a music teacher. Because music is
not extracurricular. It is critical, yes, And.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
So what's the web. What's the website?

Speaker 6 (37:17):
Let Music Filmworld dot com. People can just click on there.
They can listen to the song I wrote with these kids.
They wrote the whole lyric, and they can enter the
Music Matters Challenge. Anybody can enter. You don't have to
be a great singer. It's frankly more fun if you're not,
and people can make their videos and more importantly, raise
awareness for this critical cause. You know, the two things

(37:38):
that keep kids out of trouble, especially in inner city schools,
is sports and music. So we have to we have
to guarantee that all our kids have a music teacher,
let them have their voice, let them sing their songs.
And it's a lot of fun and we look forward
to doing this every single year with my partner, Kaylee
Tolman from the Tellman Foundation.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
I love it, and I I just wanna I just
wanna echo something you said earlier about the importance of
art and music and why it matters to you. You know,
artists are the ones who transmit the message, right, So
whether it's music, movies, you know, paintings, whatever it is,
artists are just like comedians are are are telling the

(38:22):
story of the time. And if we just let all
of the crazy lefties be the ones creating art, then
we're going to get more of the same nonsense. And
so I just I just love that you are using
your gifts to help, you know, spread values that matter. Okay, sorry,

(38:45):
oh go ahead.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
You are exactly right. That's this is probably the most
important part point on this podcast because we do not
win this culture war without the arts. We don't get
to kids on TikTok through a political speech, an article,
Wall Street Journal. The arts is how we get to kids,
and we're losing that. And many people on the right
don't understand that one song is worth a hundred thousand speeches.

(39:09):
We've seen that with my Okay song, we see that
with other songs. It breaks barious millions of imprints and
impressions for songs that not even on the radio. So
you're right, we have to organize with the arts. It's
a weapon, it's a salvo, it's a soft weapon, and
we're not going to win this culture war without it.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yep, Okay, Robert, I totally I know. I know you
had somewhere else, so you put me.

Speaker 6 (39:33):
You put me on my most exciting point.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Thank you, Erica. You were spot on. I mean sure,
you were spot you were spot on. You know I
can't you know, you know, if you can't sing and
you can enter, I might, I might enter.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Is there an age limit here?

Speaker 6 (39:51):
If you guys could do it, you know, all we
could do all.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Don't dude, listen.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
In my household growing up with my father, he used
to I have an old tape and I was reel
to real tape deck and it was six hours of
Broadway every Sunday, and it was a range of you
had to sing broad you know. I'm sort of like
Paul ropes In with my voice, right, but you had
to sing Broadway to survive, you know.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
So I can do a mean version of Old Man River.
That'd be about it.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
But maybe whatever you got.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Oh, we're submitting. It's on now. Oh oh, don't threaten
me with a good time.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
Okay, I can't wait. I can't wait. Thank you, Erica.
You may win, day Man, you may win.

Speaker 10 (40:29):
Hey, you know a judge, so it Hey exactly.

Speaker 6 (40:34):
Hey, I don't even care.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I'm going to submit anything.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
As we close this out. We want to close. As
I said, ladies and gentlemen. John was kind enough to
volunteer his time for Israel appreciation. They actually flew to Vegas.
I did forget his piano, but we did. We did
finally correct that problem. It's like, Robert, where's the piano.
I'm like, I was supposed to get a piano, but
no any of that. We corrected the problem a little

(40:57):
bit of panic, and you were kind enough with Dave,
who also Grammy nominated cellis was just wonderful to come out.
It was all about extolling and elevating and educating about Israel.
And you did two songs. I want to close out
with showing everyone your song. Okay, but maybe you can
do the intro John, as to what this song really

(41:18):
is about it. I know we touched on it in
the show, but I'd like you to do the intro
and then Lord Reddick, if you are, you have a
teed up. It's a nice way to end this segment
with you, John, and I'm going to thank you again
for coming on.

Speaker 6 (41:30):
Well, thank you guys for having me. I appreciate you
fighting the good fight every day. And Okay, the theme
is anything, but the theme is we're not okay, and
we're not okay with allowing what's been happening in Israel.
We've talked about the un We've talked about our college campuses,
we've talked about members of Congress that are Hamas sycophants,
and you know, it's one thing to rail about it,

(41:53):
but we have to stand up. You've seen the music
industry be completely silent. It's an historic shame. Okay, courage
is contagious, but so is cowardice. So I choose the
one to be on the right side of history. And
what this song is about is telling that fact that
we're not okay, and if people are the end of
the video I made to okay is Martin Luther King's quote,

(42:17):
Silence in the phase of evil is complicity. Don't be complicit,
do the right thing.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
We are not okay.

Speaker 6 (42:51):
This is a time quote choosy. This is a time
too more the moral man is.

Speaker 11 (43:06):
Losing forbidden laws for lor I don't understand.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
I don't understand how you.

Speaker 11 (43:21):
Go yourself and mirror I don't understand. I don't understand.
How does that blood still from your can we we are?

Speaker 3 (43:45):
We are not.

Speaker 11 (43:52):
We we are.

Speaker 5 (43:57):
We are not?

Speaker 12 (44:03):
Oh okay, okay, you have behind your babies, You're hid

(44:36):
behind your kids.

Speaker 6 (44:42):
The Hobbarders have rabies.

Speaker 11 (44:47):
The Holocaust again, No, I don't understand.

Speaker 6 (44:55):
I don't understand.

Speaker 11 (44:57):
High Agains said, I don't understand. I don't understand.

Speaker 13 (45:09):
How does that God.

Speaker 11 (45:13):
Your hands and we we are.

Speaker 13 (45:21):
We are not are?

Speaker 14 (45:28):
We we are we are not?

Speaker 11 (45:35):
All?

Speaker 13 (45:40):
Kay?

Speaker 6 (45:42):
Here true.

Speaker 12 (45:48):
Here you.

Speaker 14 (45:57):
True els on the watch, evils on the watch.

Speaker 11 (46:09):
Time to face the Ta and hand Yes, Evils on
the long, chibos on the watch, ned every good, every sustained,

(46:31):
stand stand up, standing up. But we we are.

Speaker 13 (46:44):
We are not Okay, ok okay, ok okay.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
That song is.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Yes, I said, is John still with us?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
He booted him out? I thought that was him out.
He's still back.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
He's been kicked out of better places than this.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
I guess I just assumed that was such a good
place to put the end.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
No, so John's comment as it came out, so great
and I agree. And by the way, thank you Lord
Reddick for doing the cutting on short notice in Vegas.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Ladies and gentlemen. There's the whole backstory of that.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
But again our thanks to John and joassaic Fi for
fighting for taking time come talk to about a lot
of things. Most important is music, matter, matters, challenging challenge.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
So go to the website, all right.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Website and go to the like button and go to
the subscribe button and the notifications bell, and uh share
it with your friends. Okay, go ahead, Robert, what you
got so close?

Speaker 3 (48:20):
I mean, you know it's hard to you know, you know,
have a following act after that and close out. So
almost I just want to end the show right on that.
Hold on so powerful, Well.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
If you want, I can give you a transition.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
Transition me, Well, don't transition me. Wait, wait, don't wait,
but how about a segment in the background. Can you
give me a segue instead of a transition.

Speaker 6 (48:45):
I'll give you a segue.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yes, that that.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
Word is forever ruined? Now why do they have to
ruin language all the time?

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Excuse me, You just gave me a segue speaking of language, right,
we now have the thought right?

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (49:01):
John mentioned it in his in his piece where after
the CBS did the interview with Secretary of State Rubio,
they then went to three and I don't even know
who these people were. I didn't catch the whole interview,
but three people from Germany who basically said that if
you insult someone or if you post the meme that's offensive,

(49:21):
right to find by whom you can go to jail.
So play this clip really quickly. We only want you know,
we don't have much time. I just want to play
this clip clip a little bit. But you want something
that is chilling to me? This is chilling.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Okay, hold on, wait a second, is this the vance clip?

Speaker 1 (49:37):
No, this is the other clip Germany.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
There it is I see it. Is it a crime
to insult somebody in public, yes, yes, and it's a
crime to insult them online as well.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
Yes.

Speaker 15 (49:49):
The fine could be even higher if you insult someone
in the internet. Why because in internet it stays there.
If we are talking to you face to face, you
insolve me and solved you. Okay, finish. But if you're
in the internet, if I insolve you or a politician.

Speaker 6 (50:05):
That sticks around forever.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah, the prosecutors explain German law also, that is freaking why.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
So you know, Ben and I would talk about and
I'm trying to remember the Tom Cruise movement already report
about pre crime, right, so you're like one step away
from pre crime.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
So this is now essentially thought police.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
And I go back to the UN Declaration of Universal
Human Rights and one of the things that they say,
let me find my little notes here.

Speaker 6 (50:33):
One of the things that they say, where's my chair?

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Yeah, no, no, you're going to love this. Well, you're
not gonna love this. You're going to hate this.

Speaker 5 (50:40):
Well.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
First of all, and this is a segue.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
One of the things that the Universal Human Rights from
the Unit Nation says is that parents have a prior
right to choose the kind of education that you'll be
given to their children.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
I know that's not the free speech angle, but I
don't believe that. Well, that's the thing, the full of.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Shit, right, I mean, that's the thing. Article eighteen of
the UN Universal Human.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Rights says the phone, I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscious and religion, right,
and an article nineteen says everyone has the right to
freedom of opinion and expression.

Speaker 6 (51:18):
So if you if.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
The world community praise at the altar of the United Nations,
which they clearly do, right, yeah, and then you have
the United Nations that has these banal sounding documents or
words that they don't follow.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Yeah, is there any wonder why we have the conflict
we do?

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Except, by the way, the only place that this doesn't apply.
It applies to everyone except one place, one place Israel?

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Right?

Speaker 6 (51:52):
Yeah, Well, you know it's.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
The if you are white or white adjacent, you are
required to just give over your land, your property. You
are expected to be abused because you're a bigot, because
of your skin color and because of your success. So
I don't know what your problem is, Robert, how dare
you you know?

Speaker 3 (52:18):
I just want consistency and not hypocrisy. You know, where's
the out I mean, where's the outright?

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Right, So so you have a document which, by the way,
I'm looking for the small print, like the fine print
I have passes on. There's always small print and shit
like this where you can kind of go okay, So
I'm looking for the small print that says applies to
all countries except Israel and what do you call it?

Speaker 1 (52:39):
White and white adjacent cultures?

Speaker 5 (52:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Yeah, so I mean, and I printed out the copy.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
It's it's it goes to an article twenty five, article
twenty sick thing.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
You know, it's you know, it's nonsense. As soon as
China is on, like the Human Rights Commission, Okay, like
this is they have no legitimacy, and they have had
any legitimacy for years. Again, if China, who has you know,
who enslaves wiger Muslims, who perform who does a whole

(53:11):
bunch of other things. I don't know if I can
say on the internet without getting a community guideline strike Okay,
re organizing little girls for decades, you know that's that's true.
We know that they literally euthanized their children, Like how
did they get on the Human Rights Council? Okay, the
UN is No, I'm done. I was done with them

(53:33):
in like the eighties when that happened. Nineties was under
was that under Bill Clinton?

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Under Bill Clinton in nineteen ninety So under Bill Clinton,
he I mean, let's let's go back, right, I mean,
Richard Nixon opens diplomatic relationships with China, the first re
uest president to go to China.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
But it was Bill Clinton.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
And I want to say it was nineteen ninety six
that allowed China into the World Trade Organization, and that's
it was the game changer.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Of course, those of us are old enough to remember.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
You know Johnny Wong, the Buddhist temple fundraising and all,
and you know Charlie Tree and all the money that
came in from China, soft money into the US elections
for Bill and Hillary Clinton. So and again, folks don't
believe me, go look it up and.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
It looks like two thousand and six is when they
were first added to the Human Rights Council. So right,
give me an all the way break.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
But the entree into sort of the world of nations
or the nations of the world, was their entrance into
the wto, which was engineered or brought about by the
Clinton administration under Bill Clinton in his in his second term.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yep, Gollie, the Clintons, Oh, we're gonna do I'm very
happy with my life. I'm not planning on taking it.
Neither is Robert that I'm aware of. So Clinton's okay,
leave us alone.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
You don't want to start me on. I mean, do
you want to talk about a community striker? We start
getting into that, they will pull us off the air.
But there used to be a website called Arkansas A
r K A n c I d E. Which used
to be pages and pages and pages of things happened
to do with Arkansas and the Clintons, which it has
now been Whitewashington pulled down.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
But I can't imagine why we need them.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Well, you know the Democrats, they manifest democracy. I don't
know if you knew that.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
I will make a prediction.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Tell me that before the Trump administration is done with
DOGE and is done unearthing all the pay to play
and where the Moneys were going, that the Clintons are
going to be pulled into this because we all know
that the Clinton Foundation was getting money from Now it

(55:53):
might be through USA.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
I d I don't know.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
I'm not I don't have that kind of knowledge or
security clearance, but I will bet you you can.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I say all the t in China. Yes, okay, thank you.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
So this is what when you told me democracy was
bureaucracy when you did your monologue when we were talking
about it, it made me think of this. So everyone needs itlemen.

Speaker 6 (56:17):
Fish? Is Debacrosse mana fish?

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Do you want to explain that to me?

Speaker 2 (56:23):
It's uh, it's some video. I don't even know what
this is.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
This goes to show you that on the cuff, you
shouldn't do things on the.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Oh, it's great. Everybody needs to watch this video because
it's ridiculous. It's this man getting arrested for some nonsense
or whatever, and he gives the most epic speech and
they they cannot get him into the cop car. It's amazing,
and he's like DEMOCROSSI Manifest and it's freaking fantastic. I'm

(56:56):
putting a link in the comments. Y'all need to go
watch it.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
He should put a link in the comments.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
And I saw, speaking of comments, I believe we had
a comment during the show or two, did we not?

Speaker 2 (57:06):
We did Joe Silio. Joe Silio, after Japan surrendered after
World War Two, we helped them develop an economic force.
We should do the same in Gaza. I'm telling you what, bro,
I don't know what the problem is. I don't know
why everybody's hating on it.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Look, my guest is guys. First of all, thank you
Joe Silio for that question or comment. My guess is
that it will be some sort of international protectorate. I'm
not sure, you know, the US will play a part.
I'm not sure it's going to be US property. I
would love for it to be. Yeah, but at the
end of the day, as long as Hamas is.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Eliminated, Yeah, it's a start in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
And yes, that property or that land in Judea, and
let's call it what it is, right, it's Judaya and Samario.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
That would be Judea.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
I just watched ben Herb by the way, you know
Judah ben her So if you've never seen it, you
want to understand the history of that, watch that.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
But it will be it is.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
The area is gorgeous. If it's developed properly, we'll see
what happens.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Yeah, if people don't want to just murder each other.
Imagine what could happen.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Oh my god, Erica.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Oh my god, what kind of economic prosperity could you
have if you didn't just want to murder everybody?

Speaker 6 (58:24):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Anyway, Where can they find us? Erica's Time to Rock
and Roll?

Speaker 2 (58:31):
You guys can find us anywhere that you download your podcast.
We're on Spotify, Apple, all all of the places. Okay,
we're We're on YouTube, Rumble, Twitter, Instagram.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Like us, follow us, don't like us, leave, leave nasty
comments and we'll respond if you've got big guy by owns.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
But hey, other than that, engagement counts.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Again.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
To our special guest John and jossic Fire for fighting,
Thank you for coming on.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
What a great Erica.

Speaker 16 (59:00):
Yes, we will see you and everyone else next week.

Speaker 12 (59:22):
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