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About Our Guest: Yuval David
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're live, and we are live. And by the way,
I am live and I'm back.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thank you so much for holding down the fort all
over the two guests hosts we had.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I don't know. I think I've been replaced. You know
how insecure I can be.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
No, you can never be replaced, Robert, what are you
talking about?
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Never?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Never?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well, you know, it's good to know because you know
I have a delicate male ego.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
You know how that can be.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Oh, I don't believe it. No, it was great to
have our guest hosts, Jay and Steve Rosenberg. Jay the Shepherd,
Steve Rosenberg. It was really fun. It was cool. It
was cool to have new perspectives and hear new things.
And you guys be on the lookout for more panel
discussions and panel opportunities because we have had some fun
(00:46):
with that.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Absolutely, and Erica, you know how I like to start
off the show. Get under the heading of that. If
you can think about it or you can write about it.
Eventually it happens. So we have gone full minority in England.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Oh do you remember the crime?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
The pre crime?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So the UK's Minister of Justice have just launched this
new algorithm to predict crimes ahead of time.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
That's terrifying, like Twilight Zone. Right, yeah, yeah, how and
how how are they doing that?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
They're just doing a lot of sets and feeding it
into the algorithms and people's characteristics and traits. Let me
see if I got this, and they're they're studying mental health, addiction, suicide, disability.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The program developed its prediction tool based on police data
between one hundred thousand and five hundred thousand people.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
But you should feel better. It's for research purposes only.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Oh oh of course, Oh my bad, of course? How
could I How could I have gotten a mistaken So
what I heard you say was a millennia of information
that we've had that tells us when people are more
likely to commit crimes. They're just going to confirm it.
They put they put all those people in a database,
(02:04):
and now they're going to confirm what we already know.
That's what I just heard you say.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
No, they're going to use it to predict the trying
to predict who's more likely to commit a crime. It's
it's in other words, it's the first step in the bathtub.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
In any event.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
We lord have mercy.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
We have a great show tonight. We have with us
very you know later on first segment, Emmy Award winning Actor, Writer, director, producer,
you've all David Also, let's be honest. Activist, human rights activist,
gay rights activist, pro Israel activist, and just a force
of nature would be the way I would describe him.
(02:39):
So stay tuned for that in the main part of
the show. But Erica, it's time for the monologue.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Let's rock and roll this.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Hello and welcome to of the people. Tariffs and the
battle for America's future. So days after President Trump denounced
sweeping tariffs, the Chinese Communist Party, no surprise to anyone,
retaliated with tariffs on their own on US goods.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But there's more to it than that.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
They're now trying to create a worldwide anti US coalition.
They've already cut the US off from rare mineral exports,
demonstrating the vulnerability of the supply chain and the weaponization
of the supply chain. But China's response only proves what
we've been saying on this program.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
For a long time. This isn't about trade. This is war.
In this case, it's economic war.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
But the truth is, to anyone who looks at the
recent history over the last twenty years or so, is
China has been in a war with US in one
form or another, whether it's geopolitical, whether it's military, not
a hot war, but balloons and those kinds of things,
technological war for years, certainly since they were admitted to
the WO in two thousand and one. And finally, finally
(04:12):
we're fighting back because for decades China has been robbing
us blind. They's stealing our jobs, our factories, our technology,
all with the willingness of the globalist politicians in both
parties in DC who signed away Middle America's future all
the name of free trade. But the thing is, free
(04:35):
trade was never free and it was never really just
about free trade, and in the process, it cost us
millions of jobs, it gutted American towns, and it made
us dependent on a regime that frankly, is not our friend.
Trump's new tariffs are about more than dollars and cents.
This is about long term economic survival. And he's saying
(04:55):
to American companies and international companies, if you want access
to the US markets, and build it here. Which, as
we go to showtime, Honda just announced that they are
moving factories from Canada and from Mexico into the US,
along with a host of other companies that have announced
plans to do that. Now, this is going to take time,
(05:16):
and it's going to take a steely nerve and resolve,
but it's starting to work. As far as China's retaliation,
a lot of noise and certainly bellicost panic because you
have to understand something. The Chinese economy is really weak.
Number one, it's two thirds the size of the US economy.
Does not have that resiliency. But most importantly, it is
a trade surplus economy.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
And what does that mean. It means they depend on.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Exports for their economic prosperity. If you cut off their exports,
or if they are no longer able to export because
the price of their goods becomes competitive or the same
as the rest of the world, it's going to create
a stranglehold on their economy and it is unsustainable. This
power for is unsustainable to China in the long run.
(06:00):
The truth is, we don't need cheap stuff. What we
need is strength, independence and jobs that can't be outsourced
to companies to countries like China. Tariffs aren't the problem,
they're part of the cure. But what this really is
is another manifestation that the globalist system has failed.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
And what are we talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You're talking about multiculturalism, You're talking about open borders, you're
talking about outsourcing jobs, all of which has not only
brought this country to its needs economically, but it's created
in the process.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
In the last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
The divisions, the cultural divide and the cultural divisions we've
seen in this country that pits men against women, rich
against poor, black against white. Every social and economic fissure
you can find finds its roots there. Tariffs are how
we start to stand up again, because it's not just
smart economics, it's necessary and just like standing up for
(06:59):
Israel in a way that no other US president ever has,
Trump is doing what no other president had the guts
to do, which is putting America first.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Without apologies.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
China continues to wind. The DC elites on both parties
are going to continue to wine. The Wall Street financiers
will continue to moan. But this is about taking back
our country and in some levels, unifying our country, one factory,
one job, and one tariff at a time. And that's
the monologue, Erica, come back in and save me.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
So I don't go off the deep.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Enoh no, you know, I love this topic of tariffs
just for the record, because you have so many politicians
just straight up coming out and showing their hand and saying, no,
we prefer slave labor. Why are you taking away our
slave labor? Because when you boil it all down, that's
(07:56):
what we're talking about. China is able to compete on
world market the way they do because of slave labor.
So you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Well, look, it's not just about China.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
There are probably fifty to seventy countries in line in
the queue who want a one on one free trade
agreement with America. Now, so what this will end up
doing over time is going to bring down, you know,
economic borders and going to level the playing field. And
while the media is only obviously covering, you know, the
(08:30):
numbers or things that relate to the tariffs, do you
see the last two job reports for the last two
months that exceeded expectations. Again, it's going to be up
and down, stock market's going to be up and down.
But yeah, in any of it, I am excited to
stuff exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I'm excited to introduce our guest today.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
He is an Emmy award winning actor, writer, director, producer.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
He's produced many films.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
He's shown you got eighty or one hundred awards for
his documentaries and films. You've seen him in Madame Secretary.
You've seen him on The Michael J.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Fox Show.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
But perhaps most important, he is a passionate activist for
human rights, for gay rights, for and against anti semitism.
We are thrilled to have with us tonight. You've all, David,
You've all welcome to of the People.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Thank you for having me on. It's good to be
part of the people.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It beats the alternative, that's for sure, which is to
not be which is to not be part of the people.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
I'm part of a lot of different movements and communities,
and you have to remember that, not that I'm a
gay rights activist, as you said, I'm an LGBTQ activist.
And part of the problem within my own LGBTQ community
is there are people who don't identify as people. I've
spoken at events where, for example, recently a month ago,
i spoke at an event where somebody said that they
(09:52):
identified as a dragon. So I'm glad to be of
the people and not of the dragons.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Uh, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
It was a long you know though, there was a
long lead up to get to the point, But I
got to the point of why it's good to be
able to people.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, I had heard people that that
that people what what's the way the people identified as
men atars? I haven't quite heard of the dragon yet.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But there's a lot.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
People identifies a lot of different things, and that's why
most people aren't leaders.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
They just need to identify with.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Whatever community they want to be in. But you know,
who knows where our country is going to go here
in America, Maybe someday future president might identify as a
cat or something.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
President.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
It could happen.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, you know, as much as I can be a
fire as much as I can be a firebrand, the
truth is I would love to find a way to
heal the breach. I don't know how you put Humpty
Dumpty back together again, right, But.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's it's people like you to be honest with your voice,
because you know, I followed you a little bit and
you know a little bit some why a little well, well,
because there's an age difference.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Until we actually hold on. We were cyber stalking you
a little bit because a little bit, yeah, because we
watched because we're trying to when we're trying to rope
you into some projects that we have going on, So we.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Are trying to rope him in. Did I know about this?
I'm just saying, here's here's.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
My first question really for you, because you look, you
grew up in I think New York City or d C. Right,
You're you're an East Coaster. You're you've been in film
and TV for years and years. Where and when did
this political activism come from? Because you really have become
such a voke a voice out there that people go
to the identify with. And obviously let's not get into
(11:45):
the age difference, but certainly I don't know what are you,
gen Z?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
What are you? Gen x gen Z?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I don't always lose where everyone is and those age
breaks are. But where are you and how have you
been politically active? And because everyone listens to you?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I mean, I don't know if everyone listens to me.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I definitely know that there are a lot of people
who choose not to listen to me because I've been
such a disruptor, interrupter or as I just like to
call it what the fact. I like to share facts
and facts disrupt and are very offensive and triggering for
certain people. I've never been a person who has one
(12:23):
specific career trajectory. I work in entertainment, media, and advocacy.
It's almost always been like that, advocacy because I think
everybody needs to be an advocate. Everybody needs to advocate
for themselves, their family, their friends, their community, the issues
and challenges and aspirations that they themselves experience. That is
(12:44):
what it means to be of the people within a democracy.
So I believe everybody should be an advocate and activist.
That led for me to eventually be an advisor to
dozens of international governmental and non governmental organizations. But I
work as a journalist, actor, and filmmaker. The advocacy stuff
kept taking on more and more of my time and
(13:07):
more of my schedule until it became an actual part
of my career.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I'm really curious you've all you know you talked about
we started the show talking about kind of like diversity
and like all of the different vary.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I thought you were talking about tariff things.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Well, I mean you were talking about dragons. That was
what I was thinking about.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
But like you.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
It's funny because I imagine people must make a lot
of assumptions about you. So I'll give you an example.
My husband Ben and I were an interracial couple, and
so people assume a lot about the way we think
and what politics we must have. And so have you
found it challenging that some of the various groups that
(13:55):
you identify with, that you advocate for, that they are
sometimes at odds with one another? How do you handle that?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Well?
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Firstly, I embrace the challenge. If it's challenging, it's interesting.
If it's challenging, maybe I will learn something. If it's challenging,
maybe I can affect and change somebody else. That is interesting. Ultimately,
I'm a creative activist, a creative leader, as somebody referred
to me earlier today, I'm a storyteller. A challenging story
(14:28):
is an interesting and compelling story. If there's no challenge,
there is no change. So first, I love the word challenge.
It's one of my favorite words in terms of how
people assume who I am, what I am, what I
believe in, merely because of my identity.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
That happens all the time.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
And it perplexed, it perplexes some of those people when
they find out that my value system might not always
follow a fascist norm because I believe in democracy and
I believe that I should be able to shift, for example,
my political alliances.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
I should be.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Able to shift how I feel about certain political and
social movements or certain leaders. That's part of being in
a democracy. It's part of being a thinking, values based individual.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
So yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Have affected a lot of people by saying that I'm
no longer a Democrat, even though I've been a Democrat
my entire voting life. I'm no longer part of the
progressive movement, even though my values haven't changed. And my
values truly are what the progressive movement used to be
and how I was involved in the progressive movement. And
I also used to be part of the woke movement,
(15:42):
especially in the earlier days of the woke movement, and
sadly that movement has changed and has been co opted
by the progressive movement that has gone awry. So now
I have to say that I used to be woke,
but now I'm awake. Oh good that I'm good, true
to me, attributed to me.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You totally will go for it.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
And also, here's what the fact that's.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Why I'm definitely stealing that for the The fact is greatly.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
I am definitely what the fact.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Well, and I love what you just said there because
I also used to identify as a Democrat. I would
have considered myself progressive had you asked me. You know,
I was, you know, in all the parades, and I
was standing up for all the rights and doing the things,
and then suddenly the same people wanted to start infringing
(16:31):
on my rights. And I was like, well, wait a second, though,
I thought we all agreed that everybody got to do
what everybody wanted to do. But how come I can't
do what I want to do?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Now?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Well, here's the thing. These movements change because humanity changes,
society changes. We cannot expect any of the movements, nor
the political parties, the Democratic Party or the Republican Party,
we cannot expect them to be exactly the same the
way they were ten twenty, thirty, forty fifty, sixty, seventy eight,
ninety one hundred years ago. Things change, Humanity changes, and
(17:04):
that's okay. So it's about what we do as people
within those movements, within those political parties, within those governments
to ensure that as things change, as society and humanity changes,
that it's going in a direction that is still values
based based upon what we find important.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And that's why.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Having conversations or dare I say, arguments with people who
are focusing on values is a great experience. Having conversations
and arguments with people who are belief based is much harder.
I believe that this is the case. Well, how can
you argue with somebody's belief You can argue with their
values based on what they think is important, not on
(17:47):
what they believe is true.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Oh and you make a good point.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
We've offer think a lot of good points.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Well, it's been a day.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
You said, You've looked a little bit on you did
a little deep dive.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I make some good points. I make a lot of
good points. It's a fast room. It's a fast room.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
No, I love it. You're this You are like my
favorite guests of all time.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So far, I am learning. I am learning that I
need to choose my words.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Really, really carefully, because someone once told me words have power.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
They define and create your reality. So from now on,
consider me duly chastened.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And I will chastise, and I will and I will
choose my words carefully. So let's let's start choosing words.
I love this, this is great.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
That's great.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
I will choose semantics is one of my favor a lot.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Of Wait, okay, hang on, I just have to say,
this is the difference between having an an academic on
and an entertainer, right, Like we all like to get
big brained and whatever.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
About all these books.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm just but you're an entertainer and you're your job.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You're just a pretty face.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
This is this is just a green screen.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
These are all these books are all fake.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
They're just fake.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
They're just there the look so I can look like
I'm smart.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I actually don't even need to wear these glasses like
it's it's all that I really do.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
This is the you know, we Ben and I I'm
talking about the husband all night because we talk all
the time about how art is how we communicate culture
and ideas, and it's we need people who are entertaining
(19:37):
and fun and charismatic. We need painters and poets and
singers and all of the things, like people who can
effectively communicate the message. And that is something that you do,
like you're you know, sometimes the big brains are very
boring and it's.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Feel like she's saying that I don't have a big brain.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
No, I'm saying you hear a big brain, and you
are able to communicate it in a way that is
really meaningful to people. And that's why you're so successful.
You know a lot of a lot of books.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
For the books.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
No, the thing is, I completely agree with what you're saying. Yes,
I'm jumping on your words and that because I truly
love semantics and it's a fast room and it's been
a long day, so I'm all about that. But what
you're saying, what I glean from what you're saying is
our society is shaped by the storytellers. Who are the storytellers.
They're the artists, the filmmakers, the actors, the writers, the journalists,
(20:38):
the painters, the sculptors, the people who communicate what life
is all about. That also includes religious leaders, people who
speak from the pulpit, the rabbis, the priests, the imams,
the monks, and our political leaders. So the most successful
politicians are the ones who are the best orators, who
(20:59):
understand and their audience. They have a message, they understand themselves,
and they know how to shift uh the way they
deliver that message in order to respond to uh resonate
with an audience or with a congregation or with.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
A voter base. Yep, yep, power of communications.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Wait, but we cut you off a long time ago
when you had some point Robert.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Game.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yeah, it's the Erica. No, it's the Erica and Robert Show.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And when Erica gets on a roll, I know better
than to get in the way. And I just become
the the eye candy.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
For all of this.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
And I am very and I am very happy to
just you know, stand there and be at a good
looking statue.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I'm going with that. Absolutely just an old one. It's okay, No, you.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Look, you look great.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
You obviously polished your head at events exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I got I got, I got, I gotta, I got
a trim and a buff job before the show. It's
it's it's absolutely about job to two bits. By the way, Erica,
what you're also getting is someone who grew up in
New Jersey versus New York. So there's this natural repartee
that goes back and forth, okay, which which you're also
sort of picking up on because you have to be able.
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When I grew up, you had to be able to
joust verbally to survive absolutely, because if you can't and
if you can't audition and take it, there's the door.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Don't let it hitch you an the ass in the
way out.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
So but but you know, you brought up something at
one of our other guests.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So I don't know if you know John and Rossik.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Fire for Fighting, who always has worked with us on
Israel Appreciation Day and has been on the show a
couple of different times and become a good friend. And
he made a point that you know, as someone who's
not in the art field or or or entertainment field,
which I think is really powerful but yet simple, which
is that business doesn't drive or change culture. It's art
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and entertainment that changes culture. Now it is the question
as to whether you know chicken and egg right. Sometimes
the the art reflects the culture culture that exists, and
sometimes are and entertainment can drive change in culture, right.
I mean, I'm not sure it's always one way or
the other. But what have you seen culturally? Because I
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know that you were obviously part of the woke movement,
and I've always had this question, certainly as someone who's Jewish,
and my attitude has always been that the vanguard of
most of these social justice movements, at least in the
last ten years, have been, you know, at least in
large part, not exclusively Jewish, and yet they have turned
out in large part to be anti Semitic, you know,
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And there's this cognitive dissonance moment, I think in terms
of those kind of changes.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
So maybe you can.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Speak a little bit on a personal evil since I
was never part of the woke movement, so it's always
interesting for me to hear someone who's who's so tapped
in and enlightened as you are, having gone through this.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Spectrum of change culturally.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Right well, Jews have been historically and even today are
still part of so many civil rights, social justice, and
human rights movements because that's something that's ingrained in our Jewishness.
Being Jewish isn't just a religion. It's a culture, ethnicity, nationality,
it's a philosophy. It's connecting to a peoplehood. And there
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are major elements of Judaism, major tenants rather of Judaism,
such as the tikunim, the repairing, repairing of the world,
tikun olam, repairing of the body, tikunhaguf, and repairing of
the soul Tekunhanefish. Now we describe these in so many
different ways. What does it mean tikun olam? What repairing
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of the world? Which world, my world, your world, this
actual planet?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Yes, and yes we have a duty and a responsibility
to make sure that we don't just repair the world
today for ourselves and for each other and for everybody,
but for future generations. And how we define what does
it mean to repair the world is up to us.
Repairing of the body. Is it my physical body to
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ensure that I'm good to my body, that I treat
my body like a temple, that.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I try to be as healthy as possible. Yes.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Is it also helping you do the same thing?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
But is it also the body politic Is it the
body of our people or is it the body of
our work, what we do and how we look at
what a body means? Yes, yes, and yes. And then
the repairing of the soul Ti kunhanefish. Is it my
spirit to connect myself to spirituality, religion, whatever it might be.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Is it also to help your spirit, your psychology, your
mental positioning.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (25:37):
And is it the spirit of our nation?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yes, and yes. So that's why you see Jews entering
all of these civil rights, social justice, human rights movements
being active to make sure that society is functioning well
for all of us because it's ingrained in our Jewish
education and Jewish religion, right.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
And that makes perfect sense to me.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I guess my question is the evolution of these social
justice movements, which to me were always tinged with anti Semitism.
I may not be correct in my assessment, but that
was always sort of the way it felt to me.
But that was from the outside looking in, where now
you clearly have, whether it's Black Lives Matter or other
social justice movements that are clearly outwardly anti Semitic.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I would argue, even before October seventh.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Yes, absolutely we saw anti semitism, or as I refer
to it as anti Jewish racism, anti Jewish hatred, and
anti Jewish bigotry to actually use the language of our vernacular. Today,
we've seen a lot of these movements that focus on
tolerance and inclusion start to not be tolerant and not
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to be inclusive of all people. And Jews pretty much
come first when they're being shunned and excluded and condemned.
So we've seen and I've seen it myself, not just
since October seventh, but really I've been seeing this for
more than a decade, probably almost fifteen years, where anti
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Semitism has been festering, where this hatred and discomfort with
Jews has been growing like a groundswell. It used to
be an epidemic of Jew hatred, and now it's a
pandemic of Jew hatred. We've seen elements of the liberal,
progressive and LGBTQ movements, ones that I'm part of and
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have been part of for most of my life. We've
seen elements of these progressive movements that are so dug
in ideologically that it would twist their minds to understand
actual facts that should shape their opinions as opposed to
forcing facts to fit their opinions and beliefs. And they
rely on some sort of self centered narcissism, which reveals
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a bigotry built upon misdirected discomfort and low self esteem
because they've focused on who's the biggest victim, who is
a victim? Well, whoever's the victim, they are the hero,
and whoever's not the victim must be the oppressor. So
the movements that focus on a non binary lifestyle have
completely embraced a binary way of thinking, oppressor versus oppressed,
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good versus bad, Black versus white.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
It's why with.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
The Middle Eastern issues, with the Arab Israeli wars, we
see people within the progressive movements in the West who've
shoehorned racism into a region where race isn't at all
anything to do with what's going on, especially for example,
between Palestinians and Israel. It's not about race, but people
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have brought race into it. People who've never been to
the Middle East, who aren't Jewish, who aren't Muslim, who
aren't even Arab, and they are trying to describe things
in different ways. So that's how Jews have been shunned
by the movements that we helped build well.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
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Speaker 1 (29:47):
So let me ask you.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
So, so let me ask you a questions as a
gay man, because one of the things the hypocrisy of
certain organizations, I lose sort of my objectivity, right, And
we talked about trying to argue facts versus people who
have religious beliefs. I look at organizations like Queers for Palestine, right,
and I don't get it right.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I mean Israel is you know, you made a comment I.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Heard one of your one of your other interviews, that
you feel safer in Israel as a gay man than
you do as a.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Jew in America. And I may be paraphrasing that right.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
First of all, that was one of the most powerful
things I've heard anyone say.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
But I juxtapose that with people who are you know,
gay or queer, whatever the proper term is.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I apologize advocating for a people and a culture that
would instantaneously take their lives if they were there. I mean,
there's no you know, it's it's like chickens advocating for
Colonel Sanders, right. I mean, I just doesn't it help
help me understand this if there is a way to
understand it, because it makes I don't. It is so
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incongruous to me that it just it's a hard thing
for me to understand. I look at Jewish Voices for
Peace same way.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Well, firstly, Jewish Voices for Peace is neither. It's neither
Jewish nor is it for peace. What's very important for
people to understand. That's another line you should write down
and repeat. Jewish Voices for Peace. It's a great name
of an organization. What a beautiful name for an organization.
It was not created by Jews. The vast majority of
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people who are part of it and active with it
are not Jews, and it is not for peace. If
you look at what JVPCE stands for and their messaging,
they applauded the October seventh terrorist massacre, They condemn the
IDF and Israel to defend themselves against terrorists who want
to kill and eradicate democracy, not just Israel, but also
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America and Western democracies. So where is the for piece
JVP Jewish Voices for Peace is neither. When you refer
to Queers for Palestine, you know wow. If you add
queer to an organization name, a lot of people think
that it must be good because we hear about queer
for the Environment.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Green queers, queer. This clear that you know.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
I'm part of the LGBTQIA plus community, the alphabet soup
that keeps adding more letters because we keep wanting to
include people. But the problem is my own LGBTQIA plus
plus plus organization and movement started to exclude people who
don't completely fit neatly within whatever political fascist ideals everybody's
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expected to have. Queers for Palestine was born out of
a mind twisting propaganda machine that understood that it needed
to infiltrate the civil rights, social justice, and human rights
movements where it needed to conflate Islamist Islamist goals in
a non violent manner using the language of progressive movements
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and compare every every world issue and every community issue
to the Palestinian cause. Queer rights in twenty In twenty nineteen,
I was speaking at a conference and people already started
to say, we are all Palestinian. Queer rights are Palestinian rights,
and Palestinian rights are queer rights, and I said, I
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don't understand, like, wow, does this relate because I actually
am a Palestinian rights activist. I am I'm against Hamas,
I'm against Hesbelah, I'm against the Palestinian authority, I'm against
the corrupt Mahmudabas, I'm against the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and
I want Palestinians to be able to flourish in a democracy.
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Gaza could have been an amazing part of the world.
When I grew up, we used to go to coffee
in Gaza. We used to go there and you'd find contractors,
and you'd had friends who live there, and you would
go and repair your car there, and go to restaurants there,
and to the movies, and to hike and to swim
in the beach. You know, those were all things that
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I experienced. But then the Gozins, which technically are also Egyptians,
they voted in Hamas. Then the United Nations, through its
Palestinian rights organizations, allowed Hamas to affect the education system
and the complete information that was shared from the mosques,
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thereby only teaching and proliferating a violent Islamist ideology. So
that's who we're dealing with. So when I hear people
like the Queers for Palestine saying that they're Queer for Palestine,
I saw this happening years ago. To the point that
in this placard strategy, if you can fit a slogan
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on a sign, then it must be true, and if
it sounds like a nursery rhyme, then it must be
true as well. Because most people aren't going to dive deep.
Most people aren't going to read different books, most people
aren't going to understand who's a vetted source. And as
social media continue to grow, they say, oh, so and
so has one million followers, then they must be right.
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Instead of saying, let me focus on the historians, let
me listen to the Palestinians, the Palestinian rights activists who
actually want women to be able to have jobs, and
women to be able to travel around the Palestinian areas
without needing a male companion, and women being able to
vote or lgbtqia, plus people to be able to exist
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without being raped and thrown off of a building or
forced into sex, slavery, or how about freedom of religion?
How about equal access to education? How about being able
to have whatever job you want? How about health care?
Basic things that we take for granted in a democracy,
and the LGBTQ movement of the West takes for granted,
assuming that everybody must have such a fabulous life like
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we do. But the fact is they don't.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Sorry have this. I care about that.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
I love that, I love it. It's so funny because
the very system that allowed for gay rights in this
country is what they're trying to tear down. We have
a liberal constitution. I call myself a libertarian. It is
because it is set up to allow maximum flourishing for
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the individual.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
What can you eat as a libertarian? Does that mean
you don't eat fish?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I can eat anything I want to because you know this.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
This is this is this is New York Jewish stick.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
You didn't if you didn't grow up in America, I'm
you know.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
You know what it is.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
We're in the information age, and just because there's a
lot of information doesn't mean that all that information is true.
It doesn't mean that all that information is factual. So
this has been going on for decades while Jews have
been supporting the civil rights, social justice, human rights movements,
trying to help the world and building buildings if you
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have money and donating money. So it's the you know,
the Uval David Wing. There's no Yuval David wing anywhere yet, ye,
but maybe someday. So as we focused on doing this,
Katar Iran, the Muslim Brotherhood started to fill those buildings
with people who will be able to manipulate minds, to
share information and to connect to the progressive movements in
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order to do what Islamist movements have done in the past,
connecting to the socialist movements, the progressive movements, and the
liberal movements. And as more and more information started to
be spewed out through these propaganda, misinformation and purposeful disinformation campaigns,
we have started to deal with the chaotic media landscape.
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We're bombarded with an overwhelming amount of information. That doesn't
mean we're getting facts. The difference between fake news and
accurate reporting isn't just about truth versus lies. It's about intention, integrity, responsibility.
Real journalism is supposed to investigate, and verify and contextualize. Meanwhile,
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since October seventh, we've seen major news outlets receiving their
information from Hamas saying oh, the Gaza Health Ministry. Hello,
the Gaza Health Ministry is run by Hamas. Did we
receive news from Isis when we were reporting about other wars?
Did we receive news from the Nazis? And say, oh,
the Nazis said that Jews, black people and disabled people
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are did wear the New York Times?
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Did you know?
Speaker 7 (38:45):
So?
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Fake news manipulates, distorts and misleads, often wrapped in this
sort of emotional trigger which is designed to provoke rather
than inform. Right now, it's all about impact, not about intent.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
So I want to jump topics on you because on
top of everything else, I think you will soon probably
be adding the label of politician. Oh no, now wait
wait wait this is this is not I'm not casting aspersions.
I'm just so you are running on the slate of
Cole Israel for the World Zionist Congress elections that are
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coming that are actually happening now, and they conclude I
think May fourth or May fifth, Right, I want to
play for everyone an Instagram post you put up about
you running on the slate if that's okay with you,
and then I'd love to talk a little bit about
sort of the segue into politics.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Are you jumping the shark, Erica, you're jumping the shark.
It's okay, by bad, go ahead, okay.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
Jewish Agency for Israel the place where historically Jewish leaders
would meet to discuss the challenges, the plights, the hope
and the optimism of our people. And even more than that,
before ninety this essentially was the government of the Jewish people,
and this was the government cabinet room where all decisions
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were made for pre state is well for planning Israel.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
And now we're focusing on the future of our people,
but the future.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Of the Zionist movement.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
And it's important that we know that we all have
a place here in this room.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
And if you all want to be represented in the
beauty of the diversity of the Jewish people, only colle
side result side.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
All of Israel.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
So for our listeners or viewers who don't really understand
what the world Zionist Congress is and then the different
slates and what coal ISRAELA is versus the other slates,
maybe you can give us an education.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
And why have you chosen to run now?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
For it's not us office, right, But it's World Zionist Congress.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
It's a political position.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
It's a Jewish Officeewish office. Well, so, the World Zionist
Congress used to be the congress that helped govern and
helped support the Jewish people ever since the first Zionist
Congress with Hertzel Theodore Hertzel at its helm, and now
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ultimately all of these different international Jewish organizations in Israel,
the United States, and across the world come together in
this Congress. Not just the organizations, the major legacy organizations,
but also smaller organizations and different Jewish leaders and activists
and community leaders come together. What has happened is now
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there's about five billion dollars in Jewish community resources that
are used to address different urgent priorities that the Jewish
people face. The reason that I joined this Colisrael party
is because Colisrael is a diverse slate of Jewish leader
and activists who bring creativity, decisiveness, and proven track records
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of success to the Zionist movement. We put our political
and religious difference political and religious differences aside, and we
come together for the good of our people. It represents
the diversity of the Jewish people and the Zionist movement
is a progressive movement, maybe not progressive as what we
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deal with here in the United States, but it's a
movement that focuses on progress. It's a movement that focuses
on in conclusion.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Because we have.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Jewish Zionists, Christian Zionists, Muslim Zionists, we have Israelian American Zionists,
we have Jordanian and Egyptian and even some Palestinian Zionists.
We have Zionists from around the world who believe in
the self actualization and self determination of the Jewish people,
in the importance of the Jewish state existing as our
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indigenous homeland, where we can govern ourselves, where we can
protect ourselves and also protect Jews around the world, and
our interests which include protecting and defending every other people.
Because that's part of Zionist philosophy and Jewish philosophies. I
cannot only help myself, I must also help my neighbor
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and others in accordance with our values. So that's why
the Zionist Congress is important. That's why the Coli Soral
Party is important to me, and that's why ultimately this
initiative is vital, especially as we're seeing people trying to
redefine what Zionism is. We must define what Zionism is.
We already defined what it's about, and we defined what
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it's about and what it's been for thousands of years.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
And going back to Jewish voices for peace. By the way,
if you look at their website, it actually says Zionism
does not equal Judaism or which is rash, which is
absolutely wrong.
Speaker 5 (43:57):
But can you tell us why, because I can sure
tell you why.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
You're the guests, I can, but you're the goal for it.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Go for it, do it in the time.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
In after you, my God, I would never take the stage.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
You absolutely should. You're so polite.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Gosh, that's very American of you, I think because I'm
also Israeli, like I'm used to just speaking faster and
filling in gaps, which isn't always a good trait, but
it is what it is zion So wait, I'm sorry.
We're saying why Zionism is integral to Judaism, because in Judaism,
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if you look at our Shabbat prayers, the Friday night prayers,
there are prayers about the land. We're in the midst
of passover. Passover is a story about our Jewish people,
our Hebrews, the nation of Israel, who embraced their peoplehood
in this land. And we always say next year in Jerusalem.
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Throughout every holiday, we have prayers about the Land of Israel,
including rain fall on the Land of Israel and growing
produce in the Land of Israel. Like the holiday of
Sukote is all about harvest and agriculture in Israel. The
land is defines the Jewish people according to our Jewish
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historical and religious texts, from the Bible to Rabbinics, to
the Mishnah, to Talmud to the Gamara, where we understand
that we are the land. The land is us and
that's where our major historical sites are. But that's also
been the center of our peoplehood, not just our religion,
but our peoplehood as a nation of Israel. That's what
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we call ourselves am Israel. We are Jewish because we
are Judaean, because we come from the area of Judea,
the land Land.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
You know what's so funny, no one else on earth
would be like you know what, you French people, You'd
need to just leave France because somebody else wants to
live here now. And uh i mean, it's nice the.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Way the immigration, the way the immigration is going, that
may well happen to the French people.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
But that's all differentiations.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Yeah, I have no there's like no other people that
are just like expected to leave where they're from, which
I think is it's it's a weird thing.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
Well, you know, the Jews have a history of being
a victimized, occupied, conquered, and colonized nation. We've been conquered
for thousands of years.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
Yeah, the first traces.
Speaker 5 (46:40):
Of Zionism came about when the Roman Empire conquered the
region of the Tribes of Israel, the region of Israel,
and that's why there were coins that were found in
the destroyed temple. And I was part of an archaeological
dig in early twenty twenty four underneath Jerusalem, and I
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was having a very difficult emotional time because I was
with wounded soldiers and with victims that survived the terrorist attacks,
and with families and friends and loved ones of people
who were murdered by terrorism. And it took a toll.
And I knew that I was invited to this archaeological dig,
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and I went because you know, I committed to the time.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
Even though I really needed a break.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
And the archaeologist walked up to me at one point
and she talks like this. We say cigarette in her
mouth and she says to me, she says, hey you.
This was in Hebrew, but her voice was like this,
and she says, you know, I notice you're having difficulty
times right now, Go dig And I said what she says,
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go dig, dig in the ground, dig in the mud.
So she told me to go dig in the ground
and dig in the mud. And she led me to
an area that wasn't excavated yet. And I was using
my hands and I was digging, and I pulled out
a coin, and on this coin, from more than two
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thousand years ago, it had the words ut Si le
man Sion for the freedom of Zion. Zionism existed back
then when Jews put on coins shared the messages saying
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we must fight for our freedom, for the freedom of Zion,
which is a name for our people and our land.
Zionism has existed for a long time. We have fought
for it for a long time, and we're still fighting
for our existence today.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
You've all this is the quickest hour I think I've
ever done on this show. I thank you where can
people get c where can they find you?
Speaker 5 (48:55):
I try to just stay as private as possible because
too many people are trying to fight me on not.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Not those people, not those people, just social media.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
Deathly so on across social media. On Instagram, uh, you
can find me at you'v ale underscore David underscore. Somebody
else got the uval David, but everywhere else on YouTube
Val David, y U v A L d A v
I d on x, on Facebook, on TikTok, on LinkedIn,
on every platform you can find me. And you know what,
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I was informed by the FBI a few times that
there are hate groups that are coming for me and
threatening me, including on social media, and I was advised
by them too. Then they actually said it like this.
I'm paraphrasing a little bit. They said, tell every friendly
to follow you and engage with your accounts on social
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media because there are hate groups that are trying to
shift the algorithms by engaging with accounts like mine and
other Jewish activists, so that our accounts, according to the algorithm,
will not be shown to our own communities, but they'll
be shown primarily to the communities.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
Of the people who hate us.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
That's the way the algorithms work. Yeah, So Erica, if
I love you, and which I do, of course, and
I engage with your accounts, then my followers are going
to see your account and that because the algorithm says, well,
if you've all engages with Erica accounts, so maybe u
Voll's followers will want to engage with Erica's accounts. It's
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the same thing. If I engage with your accounts and
I don't like you, well, my followers are going to
see your accounts and we'll see that I don't like
and I engage negatively with your accounts, and that's exactly
what's happening. We have a massive problem in this world.
There are only fifteen point three to fifteen point six
or seven million Jews in the world. Meanwhile, there are
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two point four billion Christians in the world. There are
two point two billion Muslims in the world. There are
one point three billion Hindus in the world. There are
five hundred and eighty five million Buddhists in the world.
Our numbers are not favorable for us and how we
share the narrative on social media and online. So every
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Jew and every ally needs to be better on social media,
even if you only spend a few minutes a week,
a day, a month, a year, make sure you engage
positively with the sources that you believe need to be amplified.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
I really appreciate you sharing that information and.
Speaker 5 (51:37):
Kind of sucky information though, Oh wow, realizing.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Well and you know, I actually I got a little
emotional during the break thinking about you know, some of
the things that you said about you know, the Jewish
faith and how you know there are these principles that
you live by and as a Christian, you know same
thing we are meant to give, the blessings give you know, forgiveness,
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all the things that God has given us, you know
all of it. And it is no wonder that we're
seeing an increase, you know, if I can get all
spiritual on everybody, uh, an increase in this this hatred
because there's there's so much evil in the world right now,
the permissiveness of of everything that has been going on
(52:28):
in the various cultures, and and with this much evil
allowed to just you know, propagate around the world. Of course,
the people of God are going to start being targeted,
you know, And and and I do see a lot
of this as spiritual warfare, and and I and I
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think that people of faith ought to take responsibility for
that and and be working to fight against it in
whatever way they can. And and so I just really
appreciate your everything that you do, and you know, the
art that you make, the culture.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
THANKI and gentlemen, we appreciate them.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
We've been speaking with you all.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
David, I'm supposed to say journalist, media, entertainer.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
Did I get that right?
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Filmmaker, filmmaker, Okay, good filmmaker.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
So stay with us on the last segment, Well, we
are going to play so our good friend John and
Drossic five for Fighting just re released his song yesterday,
Superman and it was for hostage families, uh one family
in particular for Alan and their families. And this is
the most appropriate ending I can think for this show
(53:46):
to play the new to play John's new song. Not
only is this next year in Jerusalem, but bring the
hostages home and bring them home now, and bring them
home now.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
You've all, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 8 (54:05):
This is far alone all the hostages and their families.
Speaker 4 (54:10):
May they be home soon.
Speaker 6 (54:18):
I can't stand fly. I'm not that nicety. I'm just
out to find.
Speaker 8 (54:32):
The better pard me how more than a bird? How
more than a plane? More than some pretty face? It's
sort of trade and it's not easy to be me.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Wish there are cried.
Speaker 5 (54:58):
Fall upon man needs.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Find away, Fly to a home I will soon.
Speaker 8 (55:09):
See in messan of sir, don't be in a hey.
Even hear us hair the rotter bleed, and maybe it.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
Stand, won't You can see.
Speaker 8 (55:24):
Even hear us hair the rotter dream and it's nineties
soup me up a hand away away from me night
so right, you can all slew.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
It sounds tonight. I'm not crazy.
Speaker 4 (55:55):
Or anything.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
I can't stand. I'm not that nighty.
Speaker 8 (56:06):
Men. One man to ride.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
With clouds between lennies.
Speaker 8 (56:13):
I'm on letting man in a funny red sheet, digging
for krypton, nick the swum wet street on Live Man,
a frony red sheet, looking.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
For special things inside of me, inside.
Speaker 8 (56:33):
Me, inside me, inside me.
Speaker 4 (56:44):
Inside me.
Speaker 8 (56:49):
I'm a little man in a funny red sheet on
Live Man, looking for a tree. Only a bath you
can't afforded red she It's not easy.
Speaker 4 (57:11):
It's not easy.
Speaker 7 (57:14):
To be
Speaker 5 (57:19):
M
We're live, and we are live. And by the way,
I am live and I'm back.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thank you so much for holding down the fort all
over the two guests hosts we had.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I don't know. I think I've been replaced. You know
how insecure I can be.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
No, you can never be replaced, Robert, what are you
talking about?
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Never?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Never?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Well, you know, it's good to know because you know
I have a delicate male ego.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
You know how that can be.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Oh, I don't believe it. No, it was great to
have our guest hosts, Jay and Steve Rosenberg. Jay the Shepherd,
Steve Rosenberg. It was really fun. It was cool. It
was cool to have new perspectives and hear new things.
And you guys be on the lookout for more panel
discussions and panel opportunities because we have had some fun
(00:46):
with that.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Absolutely, and Erica, you know how I like to start
off the show. Get under the heading of that. If
you can think about it or you can write about it.
Eventually it happens. So we have gone full minority in England.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Oh do you remember the crime?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
The pre crime?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So the UK's Minister of Justice have just launched this
new algorithm to predict crimes ahead of time.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
That's terrifying, like Twilight Zone. Right, yeah, yeah, how and
how how are they doing that?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
They're just doing a lot of sets and feeding it
into the algorithms and people's characteristics and traits. Let me
see if I got this, and they're they're studying mental health, addiction, suicide, disability.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The program developed its prediction tool based on police data
between one hundred thousand and five hundred thousand people.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
But you should feel better. It's for research purposes only.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Oh oh of course, Oh my bad, of course? How
could I How could I have gotten a mistaken So
what I heard you say was a millennia of information
that we've had that tells us when people are more
likely to commit crimes. They're just going to confirm it.
They put they put all those people in a database,
(02:04):
and now they're going to confirm what we already know.
That's what I just heard you say.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
No, they're going to use it to predict the trying
to predict who's more likely to commit a crime. It's
it's in other words, it's the first step in the bathtub.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
In any event.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
We lord have mercy.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
We have a great show tonight. We have with us
very you know later on first segment, Emmy Award winning Actor, Writer, director, producer,
you've all David Also, let's be honest. Activist, human rights activist,
gay rights activist, pro Israel activist, and just a force
of nature would be the way I would describe him.
(02:39):
So stay tuned for that in the main part of
the show. But Erica, it's time for the monologue.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Let's rock and roll this.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Hello and welcome to of the people. Tariffs and the
battle for America's future. So days after President Trump denounced
sweeping tariffs, the Chinese Communist Party, no surprise to anyone,
retaliated with tariffs on their own on US goods.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But there's more to it than that.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
They're now trying to create a worldwide anti US coalition.
They've already cut the US off from rare mineral exports,
demonstrating the vulnerability of the supply chain and the weaponization
of the supply chain. But China's response only proves what
we've been saying on this program.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
For a long time. This isn't about trade. This is war.
In this case, it's economic war.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
But the truth is, to anyone who looks at the
recent history over the last twenty years or so, is
China has been in a war with US in one
form or another, whether it's geopolitical, whether it's military, not
a hot war, but balloons and those kinds of things,
technological war for years, certainly since they were admitted to
the WO in two thousand and one. And finally, finally
(04:12):
we're fighting back because for decades China has been robbing
us blind. They's stealing our jobs, our factories, our technology,
all with the willingness of the globalist politicians in both
parties in DC who signed away Middle America's future all
the name of free trade. But the thing is, free
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trade was never free and it was never really just
about free trade, and in the process, it cost us
millions of jobs, it gutted American towns, and it made
us dependent on a regime that frankly, is not our friend.
Trump's new tariffs are about more than dollars and cents.
This is about long term economic survival. And he's saying
(04:55):
to American companies and international companies, if you want access
to the US markets, and build it here. Which, as
we go to showtime, Honda just announced that they are
moving factories from Canada and from Mexico into the US,
along with a host of other companies that have announced
plans to do that. Now, this is going to take time,
(05:16):
and it's going to take a steely nerve and resolve,
but it's starting to work. As far as China's retaliation,
a lot of noise and certainly bellicost panic because you
have to understand something. The Chinese economy is really weak.
Number one, it's two thirds the size of the US economy.
Does not have that resiliency. But most importantly, it is
a trade surplus economy.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
And what does that mean. It means they depend on.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Exports for their economic prosperity. If you cut off their exports,
or if they are no longer able to export because
the price of their goods becomes competitive or the same
as the rest of the world, it's going to create
a stranglehold on their economy and it is unsustainable. This
power for is unsustainable to China in the long run.
(06:00):
The truth is, we don't need cheap stuff. What we
need is strength, independence and jobs that can't be outsourced
to companies to countries like China. Tariffs aren't the problem,
they're part of the cure. But what this really is
is another manifestation that the globalist system has failed.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
And what are we talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
You're talking about multiculturalism, You're talking about open borders, you're
talking about outsourcing jobs, all of which has not only
brought this country to its needs economically, but it's created
in the process.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
In the last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
The divisions, the cultural divide and the cultural divisions we've
seen in this country that pits men against women, rich
against poor, black against white. Every social and economic fissure
you can find finds its roots there. Tariffs are how
we start to stand up again, because it's not just
smart economics, it's necessary and just like standing up for
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Israel in a way that no other US president ever has,
Trump is doing what no other president had the guts
to do, which is putting America first.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Without apologies.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
China continues to wind. The DC elites on both parties
are going to continue to wine. The Wall Street financiers
will continue to moan. But this is about taking back
our country and in some levels, unifying our country, one factory,
one job, and one tariff at a time. And that's
the monologue, Erica, come back in and save me.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
So I don't go off the deep.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Enoh no, you know, I love this topic of tariffs
just for the record, because you have so many politicians
just straight up coming out and showing their hand and saying, no,
we prefer slave labor. Why are you taking away our
slave labor? Because when you boil it all down, that's
(07:56):
what we're talking about. China is able to compete on
world market the way they do because of slave labor.
So you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Well, look, it's not just about China.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
There are probably fifty to seventy countries in line in
the queue who want a one on one free trade
agreement with America. Now, so what this will end up
doing over time is going to bring down, you know,
economic borders and going to level the playing field. And
while the media is only obviously covering, you know, the
(08:30):
numbers or things that relate to the tariffs, do you
see the last two job reports for the last two
months that exceeded expectations. Again, it's going to be up
and down, stock market's going to be up and down.
But yeah, in any of it, I am excited to
stuff exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I'm excited to introduce our guest today.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
He is an Emmy award winning actor, writer, director, producer.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
He's produced many films.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
He's shown you got eighty or one hundred awards for
his documentaries and films. You've seen him in Madame Secretary.
You've seen him on The Michael J.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Fox Show.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
But perhaps most important, he is a passionate activist for
human rights, for gay rights, for and against anti semitism.
We are thrilled to have with us tonight. You've all, David,
You've all welcome to of the People.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Thank you for having me on. It's good to be
part of the people.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It beats the alternative, that's for sure, which is to
not be which is to not be part of the people.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
I'm part of a lot of different movements and communities,
and you have to remember that, not that I'm a
gay rights activist, as you said, I'm an LGBTQ activist.
And part of the problem within my own LGBTQ community
is there are people who don't identify as people. I've
spoken at events where, for example, recently a month ago,
i spoke at an event where somebody said that they
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identified as a dragon. So I'm glad to be of
the people and not of the dragons.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Uh, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
It was a long you know though, there was a
long lead up to get to the point, But I
got to the point of why it's good to be
able to people.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, I had heard people that that
that people what what's the way the people identified as
men atars? I haven't quite heard of the dragon yet.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
But there's a lot.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
People identifies a lot of different things, and that's why
most people aren't leaders.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
They just need to identify with.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Whatever community they want to be in. But you know,
who knows where our country is going to go here
in America, Maybe someday future president might identify as a
cat or something.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
President.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
It could happen.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, you know, as much as I can be a
fire as much as I can be a firebrand, the
truth is I would love to find a way to
heal the breach. I don't know how you put Humpty
Dumpty back together again, right, But.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It's it's people like you to be honest with your voice,
because you know, I followed you a little bit and
you know a little bit some why a little well, well,
because there's an age difference.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Until we actually hold on. We were cyber stalking you
a little bit because a little bit, yeah, because we
watched because we're trying to when we're trying to rope
you into some projects that we have going on, So we.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Are trying to rope him in. Did I know about this?
I'm just saying, here's here's.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
My first question really for you, because you look, you
grew up in I think New York City or d C. Right,
You're you're an East Coaster. You're you've been in film
and TV for years and years. Where and when did
this political activism come from? Because you really have become
such a voke a voice out there that people go
to the identify with. And obviously let's not get into
(11:45):
the age difference, but certainly I don't know what are you,
gen Z?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
What are you? Gen x gen Z?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I don't always lose where everyone is and those age
breaks are. But where are you and how have you
been politically active? And because everyone listens to you?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I mean, I don't know if everyone listens to me.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I definitely know that there are a lot of people
who choose not to listen to me because I've been
such a disruptor, interrupter or as I just like to
call it what the fact. I like to share facts
and facts disrupt and are very offensive and triggering for
certain people. I've never been a person who has one
(12:23):
specific career trajectory. I work in entertainment, media, and advocacy.
It's almost always been like that, advocacy because I think
everybody needs to be an advocate. Everybody needs to advocate
for themselves, their family, their friends, their community, the issues
and challenges and aspirations that they themselves experience. That is
(12:44):
what it means to be of the people within a democracy.
So I believe everybody should be an advocate and activist.
That led for me to eventually be an advisor to
dozens of international governmental and non governmental organizations. But I
work as a journalist, actor, and filmmaker. The advocacy stuff
kept taking on more and more of my time and
(13:07):
more of my schedule until it became an actual part
of my career.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I'm really curious you've all you know you talked about
we started the show talking about kind of like diversity
and like all of the different vary.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I thought you were talking about tariff things.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Well, I mean you were talking about dragons. That was
what I was thinking about.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
But like you.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
It's funny because I imagine people must make a lot
of assumptions about you. So I'll give you an example.
My husband Ben and I were an interracial couple, and
so people assume a lot about the way we think
and what politics we must have. And so have you
found it challenging that some of the various groups that
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you identify with, that you advocate for, that they are
sometimes at odds with one another? How do you handle that?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Well?
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Firstly, I embrace the challenge. If it's challenging, it's interesting.
If it's challenging, maybe I will learn something. If it's challenging,
maybe I can affect and change somebody else. That is interesting. Ultimately,
I'm a creative activist, a creative leader, as somebody referred
to me earlier today, I'm a storyteller. A challenging story
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is an interesting and compelling story. If there's no challenge,
there is no change. So first, I love the word challenge.
It's one of my favorite words in terms of how
people assume who I am, what I am, what I
believe in, merely because of my identity.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
That happens all the time.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
And it perplexed, it perplexes some of those people when
they find out that my value system might not always
follow a fascist norm because I believe in democracy and
I believe that I should be able to shift, for example,
my political alliances.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
I should be.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Able to shift how I feel about certain political and
social movements or certain leaders. That's part of being in
a democracy. It's part of being a thinking, values based individual.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
So yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Have affected a lot of people by saying that I'm
no longer a Democrat, even though I've been a Democrat
my entire voting life. I'm no longer part of the
progressive movement, even though my values haven't changed. And my
values truly are what the progressive movement used to be
and how I was involved in the progressive movement. And
I also used to be part of the woke movement,
(15:42):
especially in the earlier days of the woke movement, and
sadly that movement has changed and has been co opted
by the progressive movement that has gone awry. So now
I have to say that I used to be woke,
but now I'm awake. Oh good that I'm good, true
to me, attributed to me.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You totally will go for it.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
And also, here's what the fact that's.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Why I'm definitely stealing that for the The fact is greatly.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
I am definitely what the fact.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Well, and I love what you just said there because
I also used to identify as a Democrat. I would
have considered myself progressive had you asked me. You know,
I was, you know, in all the parades, and I
was standing up for all the rights and doing the things,
and then suddenly the same people wanted to start infringing
(16:31):
on my rights. And I was like, well, wait a second, though,
I thought we all agreed that everybody got to do
what everybody wanted to do. But how come I can't
do what I want to do?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Now?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Well, here's the thing. These movements change because humanity changes,
society changes. We cannot expect any of the movements, nor
the political parties, the Democratic Party or the Republican Party,
we cannot expect them to be exactly the same the
way they were ten twenty, thirty, forty fifty, sixty, seventy eight,
ninety one hundred years ago. Things change, Humanity changes, and
(17:04):
that's okay. So it's about what we do as people
within those movements, within those political parties, within those governments
to ensure that as things change, as society and humanity changes,
that it's going in a direction that is still values
based based upon what we find important.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
And that's why.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Having conversations or dare I say, arguments with people who
are focusing on values is a great experience. Having conversations
and arguments with people who are belief based is much harder.
I believe that this is the case. Well, how can
you argue with somebody's belief You can argue with their
values based on what they think is important, not on
(17:47):
what they believe is true.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Oh and you make a good point.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
We've offer think a lot of good points.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Well, it's been a day.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
You said, You've looked a little bit on you did
a little deep dive.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I make some good points. I make a lot of
good points. It's a fast room. It's a fast room.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
No, I love it. You're this You are like my
favorite guests of all time.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So far, I am learning. I am learning that I
need to choose my words.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Really, really carefully, because someone once told me words have power.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
They define and create your reality. So from now on,
consider me duly chastened.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And I will chastise, and I will and I will
choose my words carefully. So let's let's start choosing words.
I love this, this is great.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
That's great.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
I will choose semantics is one of my favor a lot.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Of Wait, okay, hang on, I just have to say,
this is the difference between having an an academic on
and an entertainer, right, Like we all like to get
big brained and whatever.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
About all these books.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm just but you're an entertainer and you're your job.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You're just a pretty face.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
This is this is just a green screen.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
These are all these books are all fake.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
They're just fake.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
They're just there the look so I can look like
I'm smart.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I actually don't even need to wear these glasses like
it's it's all that I really do.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
This is the you know, we Ben and I I'm
talking about the husband all night because we talk all
the time about how art is how we communicate culture
and ideas, and it's we need people who are entertaining
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and fun and charismatic. We need painters and poets and
singers and all of the things, like people who can
effectively communicate the message. And that is something that you do,
like you're you know, sometimes the big brains are very
boring and it's.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Feel like she's saying that I don't have a big brain.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
No, I'm saying you hear a big brain, and you
are able to communicate it in a way that is
really meaningful to people. And that's why you're so successful.
You know a lot of a lot of books.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
For the books.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
No, the thing is, I completely agree with what you're saying. Yes,
I'm jumping on your words and that because I truly
love semantics and it's a fast room and it's been
a long day, so I'm all about that. But what
you're saying, what I glean from what you're saying is
our society is shaped by the storytellers. Who are the storytellers.
They're the artists, the filmmakers, the actors, the writers, the journalists,
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the painters, the sculptors, the people who communicate what life
is all about. That also includes religious leaders, people who
speak from the pulpit, the rabbis, the priests, the imams,
the monks, and our political leaders. So the most successful
politicians are the ones who are the best orators, who
(20:59):
understand and their audience. They have a message, they understand themselves,
and they know how to shift uh the way they
deliver that message in order to respond to uh resonate
with an audience or with a congregation or with.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
A voter base. Yep, yep, power of communications.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Wait, but we cut you off a long time ago
when you had some point Robert.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Game.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yeah, it's the Erica. No, it's the Erica and Robert Show.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And when Erica gets on a roll, I know better
than to get in the way. And I just become
the the eye candy.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
For all of this.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
And I am very and I am very happy to
just you know, stand there and be at a good
looking statue.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
I'm going with that. Absolutely just an old one. It's okay, No, you.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Look, you look great.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
You obviously polished your head at events exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I got I got, I got, I gotta, I got
a trim and a buff job before the show. It's
it's it's absolutely about job to two bits. By the way, Erica,
what you're also getting is someone who grew up in
New Jersey versus New York. So there's this natural repartee
that goes back and forth, okay, which which you're also
sort of picking up on because you have to be able.
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When I grew up, you had to be able to
joust verbally to survive absolutely, because if you can't and
if you can't audition and take it, there's the door.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Don't let it hitch you an the ass in the
way out.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
So but but you know, you brought up something at
one of our other guests.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
So I don't know if you know John and Rossik.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Fire for Fighting, who always has worked with us on
Israel Appreciation Day and has been on the show a
couple of different times and become a good friend. And
he made a point that you know, as someone who's
not in the art field or or or entertainment field,
which I think is really powerful but yet simple, which
is that business doesn't drive or change culture. It's art
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and entertainment that changes culture. Now it is the question
as to whether you know chicken and egg right. Sometimes
the the art reflects the culture culture that exists, and
sometimes are and entertainment can drive change in culture, right.
I mean, I'm not sure it's always one way or
the other. But what have you seen culturally? Because I
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know that you were obviously part of the woke movement,
and I've always had this question, certainly as someone who's Jewish,
and my attitude has always been that the vanguard of
most of these social justice movements, at least in the
last ten years, have been, you know, at least in
large part, not exclusively Jewish, and yet they have turned
out in large part to be anti Semitic, you know,
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And there's this cognitive dissonance moment, I think in terms
of those kind of changes.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
So maybe you can.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Speak a little bit on a personal evil since I
was never part of the woke movement, so it's always
interesting for me to hear someone who's who's so tapped
in and enlightened as you are, having gone through this.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Spectrum of change culturally.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Right well, Jews have been historically and even today are
still part of so many civil rights, social justice, and
human rights movements because that's something that's ingrained in our Jewishness.
Being Jewish isn't just a religion. It's a culture, ethnicity, nationality,
it's a philosophy. It's connecting to a peoplehood. And there
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are major elements of Judaism, major tenants rather of Judaism,
such as the tikunim, the repairing, repairing of the world,
tikun olam, repairing of the body, tikunhaguf, and repairing of
the soul Tekunhanefish. Now we describe these in so many
different ways. What does it mean tikun olam? What repairing
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of the world? Which world, my world, your world, this
actual planet?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Yes, and yes we have a duty and a responsibility
to make sure that we don't just repair the world
today for ourselves and for each other and for everybody,
but for future generations. And how we define what does
it mean to repair the world is up to us.
Repairing of the body. Is it my physical body to
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ensure that I'm good to my body, that I treat
my body like a temple, that.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I try to be as healthy as possible. Yes.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Is it also helping you do the same thing?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
But is it also the body politic Is it the
body of our people or is it the body of
our work, what we do and how we look at
what a body means? Yes, yes, and yes. And then
the repairing of the soul Ti kunhanefish. Is it my
spirit to connect myself to spirituality, religion, whatever it might be.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Is it also to help your spirit, your psychology, your
mental positioning.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (25:37):
And is it the spirit of our nation?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yes, and yes. So that's why you see Jews entering
all of these civil rights, social justice, human rights movements
being active to make sure that society is functioning well
for all of us because it's ingrained in our Jewish
education and Jewish religion, right.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
And that makes perfect sense to me.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I guess my question is the evolution of these social
justice movements, which to me were always tinged with anti Semitism.
I may not be correct in my assessment, but that
was always sort of the way it felt to me.
But that was from the outside looking in, where now
you clearly have, whether it's Black Lives Matter or other
social justice movements that are clearly outwardly anti Semitic.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I would argue, even before October seventh.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Yes, absolutely we saw anti semitism, or as I refer
to it as anti Jewish racism, anti Jewish hatred, and
anti Jewish bigotry to actually use the language of our vernacular. Today,
we've seen a lot of these movements that focus on
tolerance and inclusion start to not be tolerant and not
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to be inclusive of all people. And Jews pretty much
come first when they're being shunned and excluded and condemned.
So we've seen and I've seen it myself, not just
since October seventh, but really I've been seeing this for
more than a decade, probably almost fifteen years, where anti
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Semitism has been festering, where this hatred and discomfort with
Jews has been growing like a groundswell. It used to
be an epidemic of Jew hatred, and now it's a
pandemic of Jew hatred. We've seen elements of the liberal,
progressive and LGBTQ movements, ones that I'm part of and
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have been part of for most of my life. We've
seen elements of these progressive movements that are so dug
in ideologically that it would twist their minds to understand
actual facts that should shape their opinions as opposed to
forcing facts to fit their opinions and beliefs. And they
rely on some sort of self centered narcissism, which reveals
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a bigotry built upon misdirected discomfort and low self esteem
because they've focused on who's the biggest victim, who is
a victim? Well, whoever's the victim, they are the hero,
and whoever's not the victim must be the oppressor. So
the movements that focus on a non binary lifestyle have
completely embraced a binary way of thinking, oppressor versus oppressed,
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good versus bad, Black versus white.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
It's why with.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
The Middle Eastern issues, with the Arab Israeli wars, we
see people within the progressive movements in the West who've
shoehorned racism into a region where race isn't at all
anything to do with what's going on, especially for example,
between Palestinians and Israel. It's not about race, but people
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have brought race into it. People who've never been to
the Middle East, who aren't Jewish, who aren't Muslim, who
aren't even Arab, and they are trying to describe things
in different ways. So that's how Jews have been shunned
by the movements that we helped build well.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
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Speaker 1 (29:47):
So let me ask you.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
So, so let me ask you a questions as a
gay man, because one of the things the hypocrisy of
certain organizations, I lose sort of my objectivity, right, And
we talked about trying to argue facts versus people who
have religious beliefs. I look at organizations like Queers for Palestine, right,
and I don't get it right.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I mean Israel is you know, you made a comment I.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Heard one of your one of your other interviews, that
you feel safer in Israel as a gay man than
you do as a.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Jew in America. And I may be paraphrasing that right.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
First of all, that was one of the most powerful
things I've heard anyone say.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
But I juxtapose that with people who are you know,
gay or queer, whatever the proper term is.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I apologize advocating for a people and a culture that
would instantaneously take their lives if they were there. I mean,
there's no you know, it's it's like chickens advocating for
Colonel Sanders, right. I mean, I just doesn't it help
help me understand this if there is a way to
understand it, because it makes I don't. It is so
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incongruous to me that it just it's a hard thing
for me to understand. I look at Jewish Voices for
Peace same way.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Well, firstly, Jewish Voices for Peace is neither. It's neither
Jewish nor is it for peace. What's very important for
people to understand. That's another line you should write down
and repeat. Jewish Voices for Peace. It's a great name
of an organization. What a beautiful name for an organization.
It was not created by Jews. The vast majority of
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people who are part of it and active with it
are not Jews, and it is not for peace. If
you look at what JVPCE stands for and their messaging,
they applauded the October seventh terrorist massacre, They condemn the
IDF and Israel to defend themselves against terrorists who want
to kill and eradicate democracy, not just Israel, but also
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America and Western democracies. So where is the for piece
JVP Jewish Voices for Peace is neither. When you refer
to Queers for Palestine, you know wow. If you add
queer to an organization name, a lot of people think
that it must be good because we hear about queer
for the Environment.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Green queers, queer. This clear that you know.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
I'm part of the LGBTQIA plus community, the alphabet soup
that keeps adding more letters because we keep wanting to
include people. But the problem is my own LGBTQIA plus
plus plus organization and movement started to exclude people who
don't completely fit neatly within whatever political fascist ideals everybody's
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expected to have. Queers for Palestine was born out of
a mind twisting propaganda machine that understood that it needed
to infiltrate the civil rights, social justice, and human rights
movements where it needed to conflate Islamist Islamist goals in
a non violent manner using the language of progressive movements
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and compare every every world issue and every community issue
to the Palestinian cause. Queer rights in twenty In twenty nineteen,
I was speaking at a conference and people already started
to say, we are all Palestinian. Queer rights are Palestinian rights,
and Palestinian rights are queer rights, and I said, I
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don't understand, like, wow, does this relate because I actually
am a Palestinian rights activist. I am I'm against Hamas,
I'm against Hesbelah, I'm against the Palestinian authority, I'm against
the corrupt Mahmudabas, I'm against the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and
I want Palestinians to be able to flourish in a democracy.
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Gaza could have been an amazing part of the world.
When I grew up, we used to go to coffee
in Gaza. We used to go there and you'd find contractors,
and you'd had friends who live there, and you would
go and repair your car there, and go to restaurants there,
and to the movies, and to hike and to swim
in the beach. You know, those were all things that
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I experienced. But then the Gozins, which technically are also Egyptians,
they voted in Hamas. Then the United Nations, through its
Palestinian rights organizations, allowed Hamas to affect the education system
and the complete information that was shared from the mosques,
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thereby only teaching and proliferating a violent Islamist ideology. So
that's who we're dealing with. So when I hear people
like the Queers for Palestine saying that they're Queer for Palestine,
I saw this happening years ago. To the point that
in this placard strategy, if you can fit a slogan
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on a sign, then it must be true, and if
it sounds like a nursery rhyme, then it must be
true as well. Because most people aren't going to dive deep.
Most people aren't going to read different books, most people
aren't going to understand who's a vetted source. And as
social media continue to grow, they say, oh, so and
so has one million followers, then they must be right.
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Instead of saying, let me focus on the historians, let
me listen to the Palestinians, the Palestinian rights activists who
actually want women to be able to have jobs, and
women to be able to travel around the Palestinian areas
without needing a male companion, and women being able to
vote or lgbtqia, plus people to be able to exist
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without being raped and thrown off of a building or
forced into sex, slavery, or how about freedom of religion?
How about equal access to education? How about being able
to have whatever job you want? How about health care?
Basic things that we take for granted in a democracy,
and the LGBTQ movement of the West takes for granted,
assuming that everybody must have such a fabulous life like
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we do. But the fact is they don't.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Sorry have this. I care about that.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
I love that, I love it. It's so funny because
the very system that allowed for gay rights in this
country is what they're trying to tear down. We have
a liberal constitution. I call myself a libertarian. It is
because it is set up to allow maximum flourishing for
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the individual.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
What can you eat as a libertarian? Does that mean
you don't eat fish?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I can eat anything I want to because you know this.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
This is this is this is New York Jewish stick.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
You didn't if you didn't grow up in America, I'm
you know.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
You know what it is.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
We're in the information age, and just because there's a
lot of information doesn't mean that all that information is true.
It doesn't mean that all that information is factual. So
this has been going on for decades while Jews have
been supporting the civil rights, social justice, human rights movements,
trying to help the world and building buildings if you
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have money and donating money. So it's the you know,
the Uval David Wing. There's no Yuval David wing anywhere yet, ye,
but maybe someday. So as we focused on doing this,
Katar Iran, the Muslim Brotherhood started to fill those buildings
with people who will be able to manipulate minds, to
share information and to connect to the progressive movements in
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order to do what Islamist movements have done in the past,
connecting to the socialist movements, the progressive movements, and the
liberal movements. And as more and more information started to
be spewed out through these propaganda, misinformation and purposeful disinformation campaigns,
we have started to deal with the chaotic media landscape.
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We're bombarded with an overwhelming amount of information. That doesn't
mean we're getting facts. The difference between fake news and
accurate reporting isn't just about truth versus lies. It's about intention, integrity, responsibility.
Real journalism is supposed to investigate, and verify and contextualize. Meanwhile,
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since October seventh, we've seen major news outlets receiving their
information from Hamas saying oh, the Gaza Health Ministry. Hello,
the Gaza Health Ministry is run by Hamas. Did we
receive news from Isis when we were reporting about other wars?
Did we receive news from the Nazis? And say, oh,
the Nazis said that Jews, black people and disabled people
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are did wear the New York Times?
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Did you know?
Speaker 7 (38:45):
So?
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Fake news manipulates, distorts and misleads, often wrapped in this
sort of emotional trigger which is designed to provoke rather
than inform. Right now, it's all about impact, not about intent.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
So I want to jump topics on you because on
top of everything else, I think you will soon probably
be adding the label of politician. Oh no, now wait
wait wait this is this is not I'm not casting aspersions.
I'm just so you are running on the slate of
Cole Israel for the World Zionist Congress elections that are
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coming that are actually happening now, and they conclude I
think May fourth or May fifth, Right, I want to
play for everyone an Instagram post you put up about
you running on the slate if that's okay with you,
and then I'd love to talk a little bit about
sort of the segue into politics.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Are you jumping the shark, Erica, you're jumping the shark.
It's okay, by bad, go ahead, okay.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
Jewish Agency for Israel the place where historically Jewish leaders
would meet to discuss the challenges, the plights, the hope
and the optimism of our people. And even more than that,
before ninety this essentially was the government of the Jewish people,
and this was the government cabinet room where all decisions
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were made for pre state is well for planning Israel.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
And now we're focusing on the future of our people,
but the future.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Of the Zionist movement.
Speaker 5 (40:16):
And it's important that we know that we all have
a place here in this room.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
And if you all want to be represented in the
beauty of the diversity of the Jewish people, only colle
side result side.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
All of Israel.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
So for our listeners or viewers who don't really understand
what the world Zionist Congress is and then the different
slates and what coal ISRAELA is versus the other slates,
maybe you can give us an education.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
And why have you chosen to run now?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
For it's not us office, right, But it's World Zionist Congress.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
It's a political position.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
It's a Jewish Officeewish office. Well, so, the World Zionist
Congress used to be the congress that helped govern and
helped support the Jewish people ever since the first Zionist
Congress with Hertzel Theodore Hertzel at its helm, and now
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ultimately all of these different international Jewish organizations in Israel,
the United States, and across the world come together in
this Congress. Not just the organizations, the major legacy organizations,
but also smaller organizations and different Jewish leaders and activists
and community leaders come together. What has happened is now
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there's about five billion dollars in Jewish community resources that
are used to address different urgent priorities that the Jewish
people face. The reason that I joined this Colisrael party
is because Colisrael is a diverse slate of Jewish leader
and activists who bring creativity, decisiveness, and proven track records
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of success to the Zionist movement. We put our political
and religious difference political and religious differences aside, and we
come together for the good of our people. It represents
the diversity of the Jewish people and the Zionist movement
is a progressive movement, maybe not progressive as what we
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deal with here in the United States, but it's a
movement that focuses on progress. It's a movement that focuses
on in conclusion.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Because we have.
Speaker 5 (42:35):
Jewish Zionists, Christian Zionists, Muslim Zionists, we have Israelian American Zionists,
we have Jordanian and Egyptian and even some Palestinian Zionists.
We have Zionists from around the world who believe in
the self actualization and self determination of the Jewish people,
in the importance of the Jewish state existing as our
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indigenous homeland, where we can govern ourselves, where we can
protect ourselves and also protect Jews around the world, and
our interests which include protecting and defending every other people.
Because that's part of Zionist philosophy and Jewish philosophies. I
cannot only help myself, I must also help my neighbor
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and others in accordance with our values. So that's why
the Zionist Congress is important. That's why the Coli Soral
Party is important to me, and that's why ultimately this
initiative is vital, especially as we're seeing people trying to
redefine what Zionism is. We must define what Zionism is.
We already defined what it's about, and we defined what
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it's about and what it's been for thousands of years.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
And going back to Jewish voices for peace. By the way,
if you look at their website, it actually says Zionism
does not equal Judaism or which is rash, which is
absolutely wrong.
Speaker 5 (43:57):
But can you tell us why, because I can sure
tell you why.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
You're the guests, I can, but you're the goal for it.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Go for it, do it in the time.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
In after you, my God, I would never take the stage.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
You absolutely should. You're so polite.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Gosh, that's very American of you, I think because I'm
also Israeli, like I'm used to just speaking faster and
filling in gaps, which isn't always a good trait, but
it is what it is zion So wait, I'm sorry.
We're saying why Zionism is integral to Judaism, because in Judaism,
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if you look at our Shabbat prayers, the Friday night prayers,
there are prayers about the land. We're in the midst
of passover. Passover is a story about our Jewish people,
our Hebrews, the nation of Israel, who embraced their peoplehood
in this land. And we always say next year in Jerusalem.
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Throughout every holiday, we have prayers about the Land of Israel,
including rain fall on the Land of Israel and growing
produce in the Land of Israel. Like the holiday of
Sukote is all about harvest and agriculture in Israel. The
land is defines the Jewish people according to our Jewish
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historical and religious texts, from the Bible to Rabbinics, to
the Mishnah, to Talmud to the Gamara, where we understand
that we are the land. The land is us and
that's where our major historical sites are. But that's also
been the center of our peoplehood, not just our religion,
but our peoplehood as a nation of Israel. That's what
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we call ourselves am Israel. We are Jewish because we
are Judaean, because we come from the area of Judea,
the land Land.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
You know what's so funny, no one else on earth
would be like you know what, you French people, You'd
need to just leave France because somebody else wants to
live here now. And uh i mean, it's nice the.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Way the immigration, the way the immigration is going, that
may well happen to the French people.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
But that's all differentiations.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Yeah, I have no there's like no other people that
are just like expected to leave where they're from, which
I think is it's it's a weird thing.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
Well, you know, the Jews have a history of being
a victimized, occupied, conquered, and colonized nation. We've been conquered
for thousands of years.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
Yeah, the first traces.
Speaker 5 (46:40):
Of Zionism came about when the Roman Empire conquered the
region of the Tribes of Israel, the region of Israel,
and that's why there were coins that were found in
the destroyed temple. And I was part of an archaeological
dig in early twenty twenty four underneath Jerusalem, and I
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was having a very difficult emotional time because I was
with wounded soldiers and with victims that survived the terrorist attacks,
and with families and friends and loved ones of people
who were murdered by terrorism. And it took a toll.
And I knew that I was invited to this archaeological dig,
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and I went because you know, I committed to the time.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
Even though I really needed a break.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
And the archaeologist walked up to me at one point
and she talks like this. We say cigarette in her
mouth and she says to me, she says, hey you.
This was in Hebrew, but her voice was like this,
and she says, you know, I notice you're having difficulty
times right now, Go dig And I said what she says,
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go dig, dig in the ground, dig in the mud.
So she told me to go dig in the ground
and dig in the mud. And she led me to
an area that wasn't excavated yet. And I was using
my hands and I was digging, and I pulled out
a coin, and on this coin, from more than two
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thousand years ago, it had the words ut Si le
man Sion for the freedom of Zion. Zionism existed back
then when Jews put on coins shared the messages saying
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we must fight for our freedom, for the freedom of Zion,
which is a name for our people and our land.
Zionism has existed for a long time. We have fought
for it for a long time, and we're still fighting
for our existence today.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
You've all this is the quickest hour I think I've
ever done on this show. I thank you where can
people get c where can they find you?
Speaker 5 (48:55):
I try to just stay as private as possible because
too many people are trying to fight me on not.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Not those people, not those people, just social media.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
Deathly so on across social media. On Instagram, uh, you
can find me at you'v ale underscore David underscore. Somebody
else got the uval David, but everywhere else on YouTube
Val David, y U v A L d A v
I d on x, on Facebook, on TikTok, on LinkedIn,
on every platform you can find me. And you know what,
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I was informed by the FBI a few times that
there are hate groups that are coming for me and
threatening me, including on social media, and I was advised
by them too. Then they actually said it like this.
I'm paraphrasing a little bit. They said, tell every friendly
to follow you and engage with your accounts on social
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media because there are hate groups that are trying to
shift the algorithms by engaging with accounts like mine and
other Jewish activists, so that our accounts, according to the algorithm,
will not be shown to our own communities, but they'll
be shown primarily to the communities.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
Of the people who hate us.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
That's the way the algorithms work. Yeah, So Erica, if
I love you, and which I do, of course, and
I engage with your accounts, then my followers are going
to see your account and that because the algorithm says, well,
if you've all engages with Erica accounts, so maybe u
Voll's followers will want to engage with Erica's accounts. It's
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the same thing. If I engage with your accounts and
I don't like you, well, my followers are going to
see your accounts and we'll see that I don't like
and I engage negatively with your accounts, and that's exactly
what's happening. We have a massive problem in this world.
There are only fifteen point three to fifteen point six
or seven million Jews in the world. Meanwhile, there are
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two point four billion Christians in the world. There are
two point two billion Muslims in the world. There are
one point three billion Hindus in the world. There are
five hundred and eighty five million Buddhists in the world.
Our numbers are not favorable for us and how we
share the narrative on social media and online. So every
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Jew and every ally needs to be better on social media,
even if you only spend a few minutes a week,
a day, a month, a year, make sure you engage
positively with the sources that you believe need to be amplified.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
I really appreciate you sharing that information and.
Speaker 5 (51:37):
Kind of sucky information though, Oh wow, realizing.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Well and you know, I actually I got a little
emotional during the break thinking about you know, some of
the things that you said about you know, the Jewish
faith and how you know there are these principles that
you live by and as a Christian, you know same
thing we are meant to give, the blessings give you know, forgiveness,
(52:02):
all the things that God has given us, you know
all of it. And it is no wonder that we're
seeing an increase, you know, if I can get all
spiritual on everybody, uh, an increase in this this hatred
because there's there's so much evil in the world right now,
the permissiveness of of everything that has been going on
(52:28):
in the various cultures, and and with this much evil
allowed to just you know, propagate around the world. Of course,
the people of God are going to start being targeted,
you know, And and and I do see a lot
of this as spiritual warfare, and and I and I
(52:52):
think that people of faith ought to take responsibility for
that and and be working to fight against it in
whatever way they can. And and so I just really
appreciate your everything that you do, and you know, the
art that you make, the culture.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
THANKI and gentlemen, we appreciate them.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
We've been speaking with you all.
Speaker 2 (53:16):
David, I'm supposed to say journalist, media, entertainer.
Speaker 1 (53:20):
Did I get that right?
Speaker 3 (53:21):
Filmmaker, filmmaker, Okay, good filmmaker.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
So stay with us on the last segment, Well, we
are going to play so our good friend John and
Drossic five for Fighting just re released his song yesterday,
Superman and it was for hostage families, uh one family
in particular for Alan and their families. And this is
the most appropriate ending I can think for this show
(53:46):
to play the new to play John's new song. Not
only is this next year in Jerusalem, but bring the
hostages home and bring them home now, and bring them
home now.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
You've all, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 8 (54:05):
This is far alone all the hostages and their families.
Speaker 4 (54:10):
May they be home soon.
Speaker 6 (54:18):
I can't stand fly. I'm not that nicety. I'm just
out to find.
Speaker 8 (54:32):
The better pard me how more than a bird? How
more than a plane? More than some pretty face? It's
sort of trade and it's not easy to be me.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Wish there are cried.
Speaker 5 (54:58):
Fall upon man needs.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
Find away, Fly to a home I will soon.
Speaker 8 (55:09):
See in messan of sir, don't be in a hey.
Even hear us hair the rotter bleed, and maybe it.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
Stand, won't You can see.
Speaker 8 (55:24):
Even hear us hair the rotter dream and it's nineties
soup me up a hand away away from me night
so right, you can all slew.
Speaker 1 (55:47):
It sounds tonight. I'm not crazy.
Speaker 4 (55:55):
Or anything.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
I can't stand. I'm not that nighty.
Speaker 8 (56:06):
Men. One man to ride.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
With clouds between lennies.
Speaker 8 (56:13):
I'm on letting man in a funny red sheet, digging
for krypton, nick the swum wet street on Live Man,
a frony red sheet, looking.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
For special things inside of me, inside.
Speaker 8 (56:33):
Me, inside me, inside me.
Speaker 4 (56:44):
Inside me.
Speaker 8 (56:49):
I'm a little man in a funny red sheet on
Live Man, looking for a tree. Only a bath you
can't afforded red she It's not easy.
Speaker 4 (57:11):
It's not easy.
Speaker 7 (57:14):
To be
Speaker 5 (57:19):
M
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