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May 28, 2025 51 mins
Join Robert and Ericka as they welcome Grammy-award winning singer Kaya Jones to Of The People.

Kaya, Robert, and Ericka discuss her music is rooted in purpose, including her new songs “Jerusalem” and “Treasured,” her unwavering support for Israel, and the importance of using her platform to speak out against rising antisemitism. From faith to patriotism, pop culture to political courage, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.

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Robert is a longtime successful entrepreneur, business leader, fundraiser, political advisor, and now popular podcast host. Robert has been an in-demand consultant on important gubernatorial, congressional, senatorial, and presidential races, including leadership roles in the presidential campaigns of President George W. Bush and John McCain. In 2004 he was praised as a difference maker as Executive Director for the national Republican Jewish outreach operations. Robert also proudly served on the President’s Committee of the Republican Jewish Coalition. He studied political science internationally at McGill University in Montreal.

About Ericka:

Ericka L. Redic is a Vermont and Texas-based Chief Financial Officer, author, entrepreneur, and former Republican/Libertarian Congressional candidate. She strongly advocates from an originalist constitutional position for conservative values focusing on the culture war on her show Generally Irritable.

About Our Guest: Kaya Jones

Grammy-winning recording artist Kaya Jones has a rich and unique background, shaped by her Jamaican family and deep connections to the Jewish faith. As a child, she spent countless hours in the synagogue and attended Hebrew Bible school in Orlando. A former member of The Pussycat Dolls, Kaya has since become a celebrated gospel artist and a passionate advocate for Israel.

In the past year, Kaya dedicated four months volunteering in Israel, contributing her talents and insights to the nation's cyberwarfare efforts. She is also the founder of Shiloah TV, a groundbreaking streaming platform dedicated to showcasing Judeo-Christian media.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That due and we are live, okay, but we're a
few minutes late. You'll forgive me, you know, I'm always late.
You know, I got to fix my hair. It's just
one of those things, you know.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
So you know, so.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
You know, Erica, we like to start the show. It's
always about Tonight's show is going to be about music.
So we're going to start with what do we have
that song? Because there is now a new investigation, So yes, ladies,
please play the song really quick.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, that's what we're doing.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
So the FBI is reopening the cocaine investigation in the
White into the White House. And you know, the issue
to me is not whether or not Hunter Biden's cocaine
or it's in the White House right. The issue to
me is is accountability, you know, and consequences. But let
it not be said. They're also reopening the January sixth

(01:04):
pipe bomber investigation, and perhaps most important of all, they're
reopening the investigation into who leaked the Dobs decisions from
the Supreme Court. And that's what I think, you know,
the real I mean, that's the really important one. But
at the end of the day, my and I've been
to the White House many times. Yeah, there's no way.

(01:25):
There weren't cameras there, There's no there's no And they
tried the secrets was tried to take fingerprints. The entire
area was wiped clean. There were no fingerprints. Thousands of
people come through there. How what's that possible?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Well, and think about not just that, Robert, but do
you remember the story about the uh, the staffer getting
stooped in the uh in the Senate?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Was it the Senate room or the Congress now?

Speaker 4 (01:50):
I don't remember, but like somebody videotaped themselves getting you know,
doing the horizontal mambo?

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
And po did it?

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Sure you're sure you're not talking about Bill Clinton in
the room about the over.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Just as much debauchery as possible, uh, in our.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
I'm offer as much debauchery as possible works for me,
but but just not on camera, and you know, not
in like the White House.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
But can we just have some decorum? Is that too
much to ask? Ladies and gentlemen, That would be nice,
wouldn't it.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I think those are bygone days. Anyway, Ladies and gentlemen,
we are thrilled to have with us and Grammy Award
winning vocalist Kaya Jones talking about her music Faith Israel. Uh,
let's roll the monologue. But I want to bring her
right and I'm so excited to have her with us tonight. Yes, hello,

(03:00):
and welcome to of the people. The global war against faith.
There is a global war against religion, and no one
is willing to call it what it really is, because,
for the third time since the dawn of the twentieth century,
the world is at war. And it isn't some futuristic

(03:23):
geopolitical sci fi nightmare. And it's not being fought with
traditional tanks and missiles. It's being fought in our classrooms.
It's being fought on social media, in the courts, and
of course, on our city streets. It's not a war
for land, and it's not a war for oil. It's
a global war on faith and on God and on

(03:44):
the Judeo Christian values that built the West. Our enemies
are both foreign and domestic. And it didn't start with
October seventh, when Hamas carried out the worst massacre of
Jews since the Holocaust, but that certainly was part of
the global war on religion. On that day, over twelve
hundred men, women and children were brutally butchered by terrorists.

(04:06):
And to put that in perspective, that's the equivalent of
about forty five thousand Americans were killed in a single
attack in a single day. These people were slaughtered because
they were Jews, for no other reason. But instead of
moral outrage, what did we see. We saw celebrations in
the streets of London, in Paris, and even in New
York and Prohomas, demonstrations cheering for genocide on our college campuses.

(04:32):
There was no world outcry. There was no actions by
the UN and the Biden administration. They were too busy
wringing their hands and putting out flacid statements about proportional response.
At some point, someone has to explain to me a
proportional response when women are raped, babies are burned alive,

(04:52):
and there's mass murder. Don't know how that's a proportional response.
But all they really did was to also empower the
very radicals that lit the match. And then here in
America today, several years later, Jews are now told to
hide who they are, hide your stars of David. Synagogues
are targeted. Jewish students are harassed or attacked in the

(05:12):
halls of our so called elite institutions, and until Trump,
the response was deafening, and all they talked about was
moral equivalents and some justification that one man's terrorist is
another man's freedom fighter. What crap. And that same political
ideology that let it fester overseas is now here in America,

(05:33):
and we let it in. Our political leaders let it
in because it's not just the Jews. Christianity is under
siege as well. Churches are defiled, pro life clinics are torched,
and Christian business owners are dragged through the courts and
financial ruin just to have the temerity of daring to
follow their faith. Because today, if you hold to biblical

(05:55):
values about marriage, about life, about truth about God, you're
a bigot or you're a terrorist, and you're certainly a
threat to the establishment. And in Europe no different collapsing
under the weight of their own appeasement and this culturalism
or multiculturalism, which has certainly failed. Entire cities have been

(06:18):
surrendered to this. They are no go zones, they're not
ruled by European law anymore. They're ruled by sharia law. Paris, London, Malmo,
in Switzerland. These were once icons of the West, and
now they're warnings and harbingers of what's coming to America.
In France they behead teachers. If you remember twenty twenty,

(06:39):
Sweden bombed by gangs. And in Britain they're afraid to
go to places in their own capital. They refuse to
prosecute gang rapes. And all this because our leaders feared
being called Islamophobic more than they feared surrendering their civilization
and their values. In America, ladies and gentlemen, is next
here in America Islamic clerics who spread anti American hate

(07:03):
from their pulpits protected by the very First Amendment that
they openly despise. And you look at places like Dearborn, Michigan,
where you see what happens with weak leadership and ideological aggression.
Sharia creep is real. But this really isn't about Islam.
It's about the ideology of Islamism. Because our politicians and

(07:26):
our bureaucrats and the media moguls, the entire establishment class
that has enabled this. These are the same people who
treat drag shows in church as somehow it's sacred, and
yet the crucifix is somehow it hates symbol I don't
get it. Our leaders must stop bending a knee to Islamism.
They attack Christians and Jews while apologizing for jihadist and

(07:48):
they censor truth tellers and they elevate terrorists. They've sold
out God, They've sold out tradition and our country and
our patriotism for votes. Very simply put, they are cow
who only covet power. And if America doesn't wake up,
we lose everything. That's not alarmism, that's the reality. Because

(08:09):
World War III, which is what this is, is a
war of ideologies. In the twentieth century, we didn't really
fight the Germans, we fought Nazism, we didn't really fight
the Soviets, we fought communism, and now we're not fighting
Muslims or even Islam. We're fighting Islamism. It's an ideology.
It's an ideological religious war. And if we don't reclaim

(08:31):
our faith, protect our heritage, and stand up to the
cancer of Islamism, pretty soon, in a few years, we
won't recognize what's left of the West. So the time
to fight back is now for faith, for God, and
for country, in our courts, in our classrooms, in our
places of worship, and certainly in Congress as well. And

(08:52):
we must demand that our leaders defend our values, not
placate the faith of our enemies, or look the other
way when there's mob violence. Most of all, we have
to stop criminalizing belief while celebrating extremism that chanced death
to America from inside America. By the way, faith and
God is what built this civilization, and only fighting for

(09:12):
that faith will save it. This is not just a
call to action, ladies and gentlemen, it's a call to
arms for the sake and for the soul of our
free world. And that's the monologue Erica.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
You know, I remember, Sorry, you guys, we've got crazy
weather here in Texas.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
It's driving my allergies crazy. So I apologize.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
That's okay, then let's do let's do this.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Well, No, I just want to say, like I remember
when the first time that I heard that Mohammed was
the number one baby.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Name in England, and I was like, you know, I don't.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
I don't want to have to have a problem with
different kinds of people. And and that's why, you know,
one of the reasons why the United States was such
a great experiment is that it's supposed to be a
place for multicultural people to all be able to be
here and get along. But when people start demanding extra rights,

(10:23):
superseding other people's rights and things like that, you know, like,
I don't know if you heard about Governor Abbott breaking
up the uh the Muslim Islam Autonomous Zone that was
being built in Texas. But ladies and gentlemen like be
care about your culture, That's all I'm gonna say. I

(10:44):
probably pissed a lot of people off right there, but
you care about your.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, Monish Tonahliso has that, which means why should today
be different that you always pissed off a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
But but but anyway, in my opinion, it's not important
today we have a special.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Guesst you guys and what dolets you introducer.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Ladies and gentlemen, Miss Kaya Jones, thank you so much
for joining us this evening.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Hello, wait, so let me do a proper introduction. Ladies
and gentlemen, we are thrilled to have back with us. Yes,
Grammy Award winning vocalist Kaya Jones and Kaya I'm excited.
I actually wasn't one of the one of the hosts
when you were here last time, so I'm thrilled to
actually be on the show with you, because you know,

(11:30):
I'm learning over time that this battle is really about
hearts and minds, and the way to win hearts and minds.
I now understand more and where it's really even not
about education, it's about culture. And music is such a
huge part of that, right because because people in my parlots, right,

(11:50):
they buy an emotion and they justify on logic what
they've bought. Right, it's about that emotionally, and you've been
at the forefront of all that. You have a couple
of new songs out, and I now understand that faith
being so important to all of this, So thank you
for taking the time to come back on. You have
two new songs out talk to us about Jerusalem. Treasured

(12:12):
is really powerful as well, So welcome back. And I
love the halo and the glow.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
The halo and the glow. I know we're trying to
get the lighting here because it's really dark. It's getting
dark outside, and I'm like, oh my goodness, I'm going
to be sitting here in the dark. So if I
may have to move the halo to my front.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
That'll be so moody food.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
It will be a vibe.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
It'll be a total vibe. I'm with it.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Thank you for having me. I'm really happy to be back,
and thank you for all of the posts. I saw
you guys as post today and it just warmed my
heart because Israel is it means so much to me,
and it's all that I've studied. You know. I became
this like singer for the Lord really by a prayer
and asking him, you know, I want to sing for you.

(12:59):
I'm done with, you know, curating young minds for evil.
And I really felt like I was doing that, not
to say that we can't be you know, very proud
to be beautiful women, but there was a border of like,
I'm you know, sexualizing young girls, and I don't want
to do that anymore God, and I want to be useful.
And He really answered my prayer with, you know, the

(13:21):
first Gospel record. And then I went into Hebrew Bible College.
And so all I've done is really study the Bible
from the true translation of Aramaic and Hebrew, not this
Greco Roman, uh you know translation. And so when you
understand really what Israel is, which is a people in
a place, it's a very serious time. So what can

(13:42):
I say about the album we've spent for you, Well,
tell me about.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
It, tell me about Jerusalem. But you you know the
song that you just that you which we have, so
we're going to play it, but I'd like you to
tee it up for us.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Okay, So Jerusalem. I'm so honored. I was so honored
to be asked by my friend Karine. Karine Masseli is
an amazing Lebanese Christian singer. She and I bonded like
I heard her voice on a song God of Israel
with my friend, Yeah, ye're Levy, and I heard it
and I was like, this woman's anointed. And I reached

(14:17):
out to her and we became like boddies, and she said,
I'm working on this new album and I want to
do a song called Jerusalem, and I'm singing with my
friend Shy Soul who's singing in Hebrew, who's in Israel,
and yeah, you're is going to produce it, and you know,
we would like to have you on the song, singing
in English. And I just was like absolutely, and she's like,

(14:38):
so you'll be singing for America. I'm singing, you know,
Arabic for Lebanon, where she was born and then Shi
singing for Israel and Hebrew, and it just felt so
honored that I would be asked, So how could I
not say yes?

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, So let's tee it up real quick.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Erica Cha.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
Side chair.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
Silm for the piece of Jeu sem right.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
For the piece small heavy pieces in your world, Sluiously salamiordally.

Speaker 7 (15:36):
Le Equini film the Heiler, swear.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
Cho sadly sid.

Speaker 7 (15:53):
Ch side che Lamona.

Speaker 5 (16:09):
Shalomba, Lamann knowlan a boshat of life Meanski's light.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
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Speaker 1 (16:43):
That is beautiful. So wow, thank you?

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, a jointed understatement.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
What's the hope for that song? Is? Is it Jerusalem
which is the crossroads of all three major religions and
and and and obviously I've been right on the probably
the most powerful place on earth I've ever been.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
So a little more about the song, what was behind
it it being distributed?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yes, So we have a second video just came out
yesterday on the one for Israel their YouTube and also
on their socials, which is the AI version. Korein really
says that her goal with this song, how the Lord
really put it on her heart because she wrote it
and then brought it to us. Me and shy and said,

(17:36):
you know, do you want to be a part of this?
She said, it's really the prayer of Psalm one twenty two,
and it's about the piece of Jerusalem and praying for
the peace of Israel and Jerusalem and the importance of
that as believers, that we should be keeping in prayer
because we know the times we're living in are tough.

(17:56):
And the Lord said that it would all happen this way,
and it's happening exactly the way he said it would.
So I think our goal for this is to show
that all nations can come together for Israel, for the
peace of Jerusalem, and that you know, the Lord is
sovereign and he loves all his children, and it really
is the whole message of the Torah is to love

(18:19):
thy neighbor as thyself. Why we're seeing a lack of
peace in the world is because we can't love our neighbors.
It comes down to just that, you know, do we
all want peace for the Middle East, Yes, but we
have to learn to love our neighbors. And I think
the goal of this song is to help people see
that you can be three, you know, three to four
women because another woman also is involved in singing as well.

(18:43):
That is in Israel a beautiful singer, and she had
her do a lot of the different bvs in the song,
and she hasn't been as prevalent in promoting it because
she just had a baby. So we do believe. I
think the goal or what peace people can take away
from it is that we can all come together for

(19:03):
the greater good of the love of the Lord and
sink something a in a myriad of different tones and
in different languages, and do it as one for the
God of Israel. And so we hope that everyone sees
that through unity and compassion and grace, which is what

(19:27):
God has given all of us. Why we champion for
him so hard that there can be peace and we
and we should seek that. But peace comes when we're
good to our neighbors.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yeah, and forget about being good to our neighbors. We
don't even want to be good to our family.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
We don't want to be good to our family for sure,
for sure. I mean that's October seventh is I think
that's the key, and I keep stressing that is that
you know, no matter how many wars Israel has had
with the Palestinians, which is not really a place. You know,
it's I hate to be the one to just drop
the bomb, but this is all Israel and God did

(20:09):
only what God could do was bring his people back
to the land. And you know, to live in peace
means to coexist, and Israeli's coexist with many different kinds
of people within the land of Israel. So to see
the hatred and the barbaric things that were done to

(20:30):
the Israeli people on October seventh just shows you the
lack of understanding loving your neighbor. It really, you know,
there was no war on October sixth, and you know,
every life that we've lost of children and Gaza and
people want to keep showing that is on the hands
of those that wanted to rage war. And you know

(20:54):
that's that's not what it's about.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
It is.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
It's it's really about being good to want another there.
And I hope that through this song people can see
that different languages that you would think should hate each other,
love each other and above all else, can sing together
for the goodness of God. In hopes that it inspires
one person to give their life to the Lord that

(21:19):
yesterday didn't know him.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Amen, He's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Agreed. And the thing that I'm struck by, and I
have a hard time always wrapping my head around this,
is that how do you get from here to there? Right?
Because I think any person who believes in God and

(21:46):
has faith in even maybe some who might be you know,
agknoxtick versus atheist, right, wou would would agree with that.
But here's Israel in some level, I would say fighting
our battles or being the vanguard of this battle of civilizations, right, right?

(22:06):
And it's that old adage that if you know Comaso
the Palestinians, you know, you know, lay down their arms,
there will be no war. And if israelays down their
arms will be no Israel. Right, So you know, you
know you're in You're in the middle. We're in the
middle of this, And I guess my question is how
do you win hearts and minds sufficiently enough to change

(22:30):
that dynamic because it's not just today, it's the generations
that are going to come. How do you break that
cycle of violence?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Right?

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Because they've teaching their kids to hate, Yes, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Mean it's a deprogramming that it needs to happen, and
and the truth of the Word of God needs to
be told, you know, we Unfortunately it's become a big
business religion, and keeping people sick has become even bigger
business in ministries. And it's the sole reason I had
to go to Bible College, and I wanted to understand

(23:05):
the root of the Torah, the Tanakh and the breed Hadishah,
which is the New Testament, and the cross references, and
what does God say about Israel and what is Israel?
And I think that's the important question here because it's
already been decided. So whether you agree with Israel or don't,
God Almighty, the creator of Heaven on Earth, has already

(23:27):
said how he views Israel and what Israel is, so
you can have your own thought on this. And I
get it. There's a lot of people that are like,
I can't see what's happening and not have a reaction.
I get it. But if you love God, then you
already know what he says. And the replacement theology that
a people have replaced Israel or that they have replaced

(23:47):
the Jewish people is the most absurd thing I've ever heard,
and it's the root cause why you have Christians that
don't understand what's happening and they're siding with the enemy
literally and not understanding that. You know, Jews are the tree,
and as Christians or Catholics, you are a branch on

(24:08):
that tree. In hating the tree, as the branch, you
realize if the tree isn't there, there is no more branches.
So the reality is, you know, if I had to
break it down, you know, in a simplified way, is
the enemy, which is literally you can call it the devil,
you can call it Satan, Lucifer, whatever you hociton, you

(24:29):
can call him whatever you want to call him. It's
a spirit of division. And in God's kingdom there is
no division because our Lord is one and everything is
within him. So anything that brings forward division is not
of God. And to hate and to have such anger
or to be boastful like you've somehow replaced the people

(24:51):
of Israel because you know the Messiah is absurd, and
in fact it goes against what the Messiah in the
breed hata shaspee about and he says, you know, he
says to the Samaritan woman, you know what you know,
but we study what we know, and salvation comes from

(25:12):
the Jews. This is out of the mouth of Yeshua.
He also in the Book of John speaks of knowing
the five books given to Moses, and he says, if
you know me and you don't check what I gave Moshe,
how will you know you heard me. That's very profound
because what he's saying is many can come to you

(25:34):
saying that they know me, but if they don't test
and check the word, you will not know if you're
really sitting with someone just using his name, or somebody
who really does walk with him. And the Jewish people
are his people, so to think that He's going to
abandon them or not be there for them, Especially when

(25:57):
I went to Israel, I will say this, The stories
I heard and the people I came in contact with
not only showed me the perseverance and the strength of
the Lord, but I heard firsthand accounts of where it's
impossible to not be honest and say, the God of
heaven and Earth covers Israel. You can call it the

(26:18):
iron Dome and say, oh, well, the soldiers protect it.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yes they do.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
But there's something beyond logic that protects Israel, and it's
it's seen in the miracles every day that seven fronts
they're being attacked and somehow they're still standing. And that's
not just my thoughts, that's a fact. And so it
would be impossible to not say, wow, look at the
miracle of Israel.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah, yeah, I mean just the story of the Six
Day War.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
Yeah, like the.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Uh, We've got like how many thousand years of written history.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Of the Jewish people and its favor.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
It's favor because they through persevere, like through persecution, their
perseverance and never turning their back on God. You know,
no matter the persecution, they never turn to their back
on God. I think, if anything, Christians and Catholics right
now can really heed to what might come to your door,

(27:21):
which is persecution, because it's starting to happen. You know,
first comes the Saturday, then comes the Sunday. And they're
not stopping with the with the Jews. It's beginning with
the Jews, and it's not going to end with the Jews.
And it's beginning all over Africa where you're seeing Christians
being murdered and in the name of a God. And

(27:44):
this is the antithesis of what we know is not
of the Lord, because God is life and he gives
us life, and anyone operating in murder and saying like, oh, yeah,
that's God, and then praising God while they're killing or
raping or pillaging.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Is that's not the God I follow, that's somebody else's God.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yes, And it's straight from the pit of hell. It
really is. I mean, I've never seen anything more demonic.
And I think, if anything, Christians should really learn right
now about what it will take as believers. You're going
to have to learn to yield to God. You're going
to have to learn to listen to the Lord, and
you might die for it. And that's a big one

(28:26):
is are you prepared for that? Because you know the
replacement theology is also sold that you're just going to
get raptured out? Well, what if there isn't a rapture?
And I'm going to goad and say it because I
have zero I.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Was.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
My purpose is to tell the truth and what I've learned,
and hey, there might be, but as of right now,
from what I've studied, there isn't one. And if there
isn't a raptured out, are you going to be able
to withstand the pain or the suffering that you might
endure as a believer? Are you willing to fight the
good fight for your God. And I mean I am.

(29:00):
I can't say for everybody, but well that's what I'm
going to die on for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
What makes you think, like, how do you know? How
do you know that you're going to be raptured?

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Like?

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Are you sure you're good? You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Like when people are like, oh, I believe in Jesus
and therefore I obvious.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
No, no, listen, there's no guarantee. In Matthew seven, verse
twenty one, it's the scariest scripture of all. If you
love Yeshua, he says, many on the day of judgment
will come to him and say, Lord, Lord, I know you.
You know I cast out demons in your name. Well,
who is he talking about. He's not talking about Jews,
because they don't cast out demons or devils. They don't.
But the Christians and the Catholics they do. And so

(29:39):
he's speaking directly to the Christians saying, you're going to
do things and operate, and you're going to use my name,
but you're not going to know a word of God.
And the word of God is the Torah and the Tanak.
It's the whole Old Testament. It's not Old it's alive,
good and well. I read it every day and it's
the only thing that keeps me the insanity.

Speaker 7 (30:05):
Well.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
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Speaker 4 (31:07):
Okay, okay, quick question. I know Robert has like questions
qued up really quickly. Are you kaya, are you in
Israel right now? Or are you state side?

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I wish actually I was supposed to be there because
one of my best friends is getting married. No, I'm
state side.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
Okay, okay, okay, all right, okay, So now okay, that
was it, Robert, Now it's here time.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Did you feel better now that that whole video?

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Can? Can we just watch that over and over? I
could watch that over and over and over.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Well we do have an well well still in my
thunder Erica. So so Kaya. First of all, thank you
for being part of the first Israel Appreciation Day, because
what we've learned really in all of this, and it
goes back to what I was asking you about, is
that we this is about winning hearts and minds and
you know, stopping the hate is great, but stuff is

(32:00):
a defensive term if you put it in a sports context, right.
Defense stops things we have to go on offense, right,
And in terms of winning hearts and minds, music and
culture is such a huge part of that. It's not
about you know, it is about education, but education comes
after you've won hearts and minds, not before. So that
was our Thank you for being part of the first

(32:20):
annual Israel Appreciation Day and mark your calendar for October
twenty ninth. I would love to talk to you offline
about being a much larger part of the second Israel
Israel Appreciation Day, which we'll have a lot more musical
content so we can we can talk.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Okay, that's awesome. That makes me happy because I love
the music side.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
That's my heart and ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Kaya also sings in Hebrew, and I was fortunate enough
to get to have that be included on a documentary
I just produced.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
So you guys, I'm telling you like the music. It
moves people did not yet I recorded it.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
It's perfect, fantastistic fix it. I had to fix it
because now that I know more Hebrew. You know, I
kept saying cop and it's cop and I kept I
kept so I wanted it to fix it.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
For those that do know, Yes, what what is this?

Speaker 2 (33:23):
It could tell everybody what is it? What is your movie?

Speaker 7 (33:26):
Well?

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Okay, so it's not out anywhere for people to watch yet,
but it is a it's a documentary on styles of worship,
how people different people worship the Lord. And it doesn't
have to just be singing and you know, dancing like
a lot of people think about. But we feature people writing,
getting tattoos. It's like it's a bunch.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Of really interesting stuff and doing life, yes exactly, and.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
We're gonna produce the final copy, put it through the
festival circuit and then uh we'll hopefully be in.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Some next year.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
So okay, and what time we have left, let's talk
about treasure, right, because you mentioned Africa, you mentioned you know,
the the really and that's really when I say it's
the sad part. It's because you know, we say no Jews,
no news, right, I mean, everything focuses on Israel and
we can go but but there is so much death

(34:25):
and pain and jen I mean real genocide going on
in Africa that the Western press does not cover. And
you know, talk a little bit about treasure, talk a
little bit about Africa, because it's not just about the
Middle East, is it.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
No, it's not. You know, my heart really connected with
when again I was in I was in school learning
about the tribes of Israel and the tribe of Dan
and my mom's Jamaican. So I felt really connected to
understanding the twelve tribes of Israel and how important Africa
is actually in that discussion. And Africa has gone through

(35:04):
a lot of cursing truly from cutting covenant with the Lord.
And my heart really started to just feel like I
needed to not just educate myself more, but be activated
more in some way, shape or form. And again another
prayer to the Good Lord God, help me connect with

(35:25):
some people that are you know what breaks your heart?
I want my heart to break for what breaks your heart,
and connect me with people that really are doing your work.
And I met randomly. I met this beautiful woman online
who was talking about the Lord and she was fired up,
and she had this gorgeous family, and she was very successful.
And we friended each other and I had no idea

(35:48):
that she was working on her organization, Treasured a ministry
that was working with these people in Ethiopia. She was
trying to help these people in Ethiopia, and I reached
out to her. I had her on my podcast that
I had at the time, and we're redoing a new
podcast now, but I had her on my show. We
bonded and she was like, will you come and visit

(36:10):
me in Tennessee. So I was like, sure, I get
out there. And she just tells me I've been you know,
I adopted this child in Ethiopia. And while she was
there adopting him, they were driving to the airport. Her
and her husband and the kids, and you know, they're
taking him home and they passed this trash dump site,
but it didn't say trash dump. It was just a

(36:32):
bunch of people that were living in trash. And she
looked at the cab driver and said, what is this?
What is this? And he said, oh, those are the
trash people. And she was just like, what, I've never
heard or even seen such a thing. And when she
was boarding the plane, she said that she just started

(36:53):
to pray and asked, you know, privately, was like talking
inwardly to the Lord. She just said, God, what are
these people and why are they called trash people? I
don't understand, and if I can help them, you need
to tell me how. And he answered her in real time,
he said, they're not trash, They're my treasured And that

(37:14):
was the beginning of her really taking it seriously that
she needed to create a foundation and go back and
she did. And so twelve years later, there I am
sitting in her kitchen and she's telling me about how
she's employed over one hundred women in Kora and that
the goal is to help create sustainable homes through turning

(37:36):
trash into sustainable homes, which they're doing, Kubic is already
doing it, there's different organizations that are doing it, so
she teamed up with them. She's also teamed up with
Habitat for Humanity and we just became really good friends.
But while I was in her home, of course, I'm
now asking God all these questions, and he had me
really research Ethiopia and how important it is in the

(37:58):
bigger scale of what he is doing in this time.
And I said, well, Lord, how can I help? And
the only thing I know how to do is music.
So I was like, well, can I, you know, can
I write a song for them? And she was like,
any help, you know, would be appreciated. So we started
to work on this idea of the song. It's really

(38:20):
crazy to share this with you, but one of the writers,
we're in a session we're writing the song Treasured, and
we're not writing it yet. Sorry, We're in a session
on a different song and there's a writer there and
I said, Crystal, you know because she was in the
studio with me. She's now one of my dear friends.
And I said, share your story with Matt Hammett about

(38:42):
the kids Inopia. And she's like okay, So she starts
to share it and Matt has this really weird look
on his face. I can't even tell you. It was
kind of eerie. He was just like he was giving
this scary look that just made no sense. And at
the end of the story, I was like, matterre you okay,
and He's like, I don't want to freak you guys out,

(39:02):
but I've been having a dream for two years that
I'm standing in a trash dump with children and wow. Yeah,
and I've been looking up online where that could be
and I don't know where I am, but for two
years I've been standing in a trash dump with children
And what you're describing is where I've been in my dream.

(39:25):
And yeah. And so that then led to me and
my writer and Matt getting in you know, a room
and writing this record at her at her kitchen table,
at Crystal's kitchen table. We tracked it, we worked on it,
it came together so beautifully, and yeah, then I said, Crystal,

(39:48):
let's do a documentary. So we started to put together
the documentary about these kids. And so it's actually a
documentary about her, the mission, the children and everything that's
being put together. So God willing we get enough eyes
and ears on this. There's over five hundred trash dumps
throughout the world. A lot of people don't know that.
They just think, oh, well, it's just that one that

(40:10):
you showed, and come to find out there's actually a
trash dump in Jamaica where my mother was born. And
so the goal is to really get eyes and ears
on it, and hey, we can do better as a
society to help people not live in trash. The life
expectancy is like thirty years old because you're breathing in methane.

(40:31):
You're you know. Also, the water is contaminated, so people
die from leprosy. It's it's just crazy. So yeah, so
that's what treasure it is, and I hope everyone feels
connected to it. And the proceeds are going to the
Treasure Foundation.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
So let's get some eyes and ears on it right now.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah, So, Robert, the clip I have is three minutes,
all of it.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Play it all.

Speaker 7 (41:12):
Nothing is wasted. You are not worthless. When I look
in your eyes, I see someone priceless. You are of
God's children. You are held in his heart right away.

(41:41):
You belong, You're safe and is old. You are treasured.
You are treasured, You are.

Speaker 6 (41:55):
The udy from beyond measured. So never give up, poem no,
never give up home No, never give up.

Speaker 7 (42:05):
Pom. Don't you ever? You are treasure? They said you
were broken, But God calls your chosen his king dumb
is he the heaven?

Speaker 5 (42:26):
So you are treasard, you are treasure.

Speaker 6 (42:35):
You are beauty from me on bad shold. So never
give up, Pom, No, never give up home No, never
give up.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
How don't you ever?

Speaker 7 (42:49):
You are treating.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
You?

Speaker 7 (43:02):
Watch you are chu, Watch you chuck, watch.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Watch you.

Speaker 7 (43:52):
You want to.

Speaker 6 (43:52):
Turn show, you want to put it follow beyond that show?

Speaker 7 (43:59):
So never give up.

Speaker 6 (44:01):
No, never get up, never get up.

Speaker 7 (44:06):
Dunt you man? You you act.

Speaker 6 (44:13):
You never get up? No, never get up.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
Don't you.

Speaker 7 (44:28):
Concent?

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Very powerful? Thank you for thank you, thank you watching,
thank you, thank you, thank you for allowing us to
play it. You know, it's it's you know. I I
once complained that my shoes were too tight until I
met a man with no feet, right. I mean, it's
it's very powerful. Where is it distributed? How do people contribute?

(45:13):
Let's talk about treasured you know online? How do they
how do they help? What do they do?

Speaker 3 (45:20):
How they help?

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Well?

Speaker 2 (45:22):
The song is available where all music is sold. So
you just treasured Kaya Jones, and the proceeds are going
to the Treasured Foundation. You can also connect with you
was that was that your friend?

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Was that your friend in the video?

Speaker 2 (45:35):
That's my friend Crystal Archie, And so Treasured is her foundation.
And the song just came so quickly for us to
just kind of get the word out because it's really
about all of us are His treasured. We're all chosen.
And I think when you see their faces, how can
you not just see the joy and living in those conditions?
Yet they have such joy, you know when we think

(45:57):
we've had a bad day. So how you can get
involved is you can connect with me at Kayjones dot
com and sign up from my newsletter. We are collecting
information for Crystal because she's actually working on the Treasured
website right now. All of that will be out soon
because we're working on this documentary and so we're filming

(46:17):
the final parts of the documentary, which is kind of
basically the interviews with Crystal now Stateside. We have all
the footage from over there. I can't wait to go
over there and help her as much as possible because
I think it's really important to just you know, get
the community empowered to help themselves, right and so and

(46:39):
this is the beginning of that with the one hundred
plus women that she's already given them opportunities to create
their own businesses like coffee stands or tea stands, selling bags, creating,
making jewelry, which and she has an initiative for the
men that she's been working on. So it's really about
changing the mind and the mindset first. And also then

(47:03):
she wants to do something with a house of worship
so that God can really redeem the land because that's
what has to happen first.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
And maybe next time you come on you can bring
her with you.

Speaker 7 (47:14):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Yeah, we look. The reason it's so important is, as
you said, and we've said on this show. I tell
I'm blue in the face. This is not just about
the Jews, right with the Jews are the tip of
the spear. Everybody you know, anyone who understands the battle
being waged, understands that the Jews and tip of spear.
And if you're Christian, you're next in line. But it

(47:37):
extends to it extends to Africa, it extends in other places.
It's such a worldwide that's that was the monologue. Right,
it's the worldwide struggle, right, and it's a war against
let's call it Western values or Judeo Christian values. But
it's even broader than that.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yeah, it's humanity. It's all of humanity. Right, there's something
active wanted to kill people unlike and if you don't agree,
I mean they're willing to kill their own people, their
own babies, I mean.

Speaker 4 (48:08):
Right, yep, yeah, it is a sickness. Ladies and gentlemen.
I put the link for Treasured in the comments, so
go on. It's available on Apple Music at least. I
know you said your website, which is also in the
description of this video, So go buy it. Go to

(48:29):
the website, go wherever you want, wherever you buy your music.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
And ladies and gentlemen, we are thrilled to have with
us Kaya Jones. I don't even want to call you,
you know, a Grammy Award winning vocalist, because you're so
much more than that, and your humanity and the things
that you're fighting for. Thank you again for taking the time,
love having you on. We need to talk because you
know October October will be here soon, and I have

(48:57):
some ideas I have are you East coast to west coast?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Where are you?

Speaker 3 (49:01):
She's in Florida, Bro, she's your neighbor.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
I'm Florida. Where are you?

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Oh, I'm in Boca.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Oh so I live between my I live literally it
plays in Miami and now I'm currently filming in Orlando,
so I go back and forth. So I'm mainly in Miami.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
So you guys are basically neighbors.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
We need Yeah, hello, neighbor, we need, we need to
talk about I go back and forth between here and
New Hampshire, so you know, live live for your die
also suits my personality. So but, ladies and gentlemen, yes,
Kaya Jones, thank you for joining us Erica take us home.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, we thank you for watching.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
We asked that you go check out our sponsor at
Israel Appreciation Day dot com. Go check out kaya Jones,
support the channel, support our sponsors.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
If you've been watching this.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Long and we've earned your appreciation, please give us a
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Speaker 3 (50:07):
Ladies and gentlemen, we love it all.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
It's all about it's all about feeding the algorithm. A men.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we will see you next week.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Robert's taking the week off next week because he's like
gonna be on the beach, like beaching it up. So
we've got Jay the Shepherd on co hosting with me.
Jay the Shepherd, I'm so excited it's gonna be you, guys.
I always love when Jay comes on. I'm gonna argue

(50:36):
with him about being Catholic. I cannot wait.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
I love it, Jay.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
I actually, Jay, if you're watching, I legitimately have questions.
Like I've been artic I've been figuring it out. All right,
you guys, miss Kaya Jones again. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
We're gonna see you again soon. You guys, we love you.
We'll see you next week.
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