On The Move

Vernon Purdy is a saddle maker and farrier from Greenville, Texas. Vernon owns and operates Vernon Purdy Saddles which specializes in making a wide range of western saddles with Vernon’s specialty designed saddle tree. This saddle tree came from Vernon’s career as a farrier which had lead him on a deeper journey to understand soundness in a horse. It became evident to Vernon that one of the biggest impacts on a horse’s soundness wa...

Steve Meadows is a horseman from Staunton, Virginia who has made a living showing in various disciplines within the AQHA and APHA. Originally from West Virginia, Steve is fourth generation in the horse industry. Rising to prominence in the AQHA, Steve was the first rider to ever win the triple crown of Western Pleasure in 1999. In 2012, Steve chose to change his focus to the Ranch Horse events where he has had sustained success on ...

In this episode of On the Move, horseman Dustin Sippola shares his remarkable journey through the world of colt starting, ranching, and horsemanship. From competing in Road to the Horse to cowboying at the legendary Gang Ranch in British Columbia and even working for a sheik, Dustin recounts the lessons, challenges, and humor that shaped his path. He reflects on mentorship, the art of training horses, the balance between competitio...

We sat down for our for our first solo episode in a while, catching up and talking through everything from horse clinics to the day-to-day realities of working with horses and running a training business. We dug into the differences between one-day and multi-day clinics, what it takes to help horses and riders make real progress, and how staying adaptable in your approach keeps the work interesting. Tune in and enjoy!

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Joe sits down with Max Morin, a reining horse trainer based in Aubrey, Texas, who’s built a name for himself developing top-tier 2-year-old prospects. Originally from France, Max’s love for horses started young—even when he had to learn from horsemanship videos in a language he barely understood. He shares how he made it to the U.S., landed a job with legendary trainer John Lyons, and eventually carved out a place of his own in the...

Cole Cameron is a horseman, clinician, and competitor from Bluff Dale, TX. In this episode of On the Move, Ben sits down with Cole to discuss his journey in horsemanship, from personal experiences and career-defining moments to the evolving landscape of clinics and expos. They dive into the challenges of teaching, the importance of financial literacy for trainers, and the realities of balancing family life with a demanding career. ...

Joseph Bentz is a horse trainer and rancher from Jentura, Oregon. Joseph grew up on his family's ranch in eastern Oregon. After deciding that college was not the path he wanted to take, he worked for Nick Dowers for two years in Dyer, Nevada. In Dyer, Joseph not only honed his horse training ability, but also learned to manage people and better run a ranch. Today, he heads up the colt starting program at his family's Spur Brand Hor...

Tommy Kilgore is a farrier and clinician from Morris, Oklahoma. Tommy has made a living shoeing everything from backyard kid ponies to high end western performance horses. Graduating from Oklahoma Farrier's College at the age of 17, Tommy had the opportunity to be mentored by the legendary Bud Beaston. For over 35 years Tommy has worked to continue his education and improve on every aspect of his work, from the routine trim, to cor...

Rye McKay is a cowboy from Northern Nevada and a founding father of Cowboy Week. Rye grew up in the ranching industry, learning his foundation for stockmanship and horsemanship from his father. At 18, Rye got his first camp job and has been working with horses, cattle and dogs ever since. Joe sits down with Rye to discuss cowboy week, learning from others and developing a sense of self.

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Ty Evans, along with his wife Skye, owns and operates TS Mules. Ty has made a name for himself in the mule world as a clinician and trainer. Originally from Utah, Ty grew up around mules and horses and was later influenced by teachers such as former podcast guest, Brad Cameron. Today, Ty travels the country with his family teaching "mulemanship" clinics in addition to online teaching, writing articles and producing a podc...

This week on On the Move, Ben and Joe chat with Chris Dickinson, a renowned Western photographer known for his hands-on approach to capturing powerful, iconic images. Driven by a passion for creative exploration, Chris goes to great lengths to get the perfect shot, often in challenging conditions. Inspired in his youth by National Geographic and LIFE magazines, Chris now captures intimate, authentic moments with the people of the A...

Cliff Williamson joins us for an in depth look at changes coming to the horse industry in 2025. From new laws and regulations to how these shifts could impact horse owners, trainers and businesses. We also dive into a lively, good natured debate about opposing political views that led to a meaningful discussion centered on what kind of reform we wish to see come from the highest office in the land. And of course we couldn't help br...

Ricky Quinn is a farrier and horse trainer from North Platte, Nebraska. Ricky comes from a strong ranching background and has spent years working as a clinician in the horsemanship world. Most recently, Ricky has begun to train and compete in the ranch and cowhorse disciplines. Joe and Ricky sit down to debrief about the horsemanship ideas from Ricky’s most recent clinic. Topics discussed include the importance of balance to a hors...

Jake Corwin is the General Manager for Valor Farm, a working farm and community designed to help veterans live and perform dignified work while participating in resilience, trauma recovery, and career preparation programs. Jake spent his early life pursuing his dream of being a cowboy, working for ranches and horse trainers all over the eastern United States. While running the commercial side of a large cattle operation, Jake could...

Nevada Miller is a talented silversmith, jeweler, and founder of the Be A Maker School. Raised in California, Nevada grew up immersed in entrepreneurship and craftsmanship, learning valuable lessons from her parents that shaped her work ethic and dedication.

Nevada shares how her upbringing influenced her journey as an artist and entrepreneur, inspiring her to create the Be A Maker School—a platform where students can learn dire...

Jaton Lord is a Reined Cow Horse Trainer from California. Jaton was exposed to the horse world through the help of his grandfather, Ray Hunt. As a teenager, Jaton travelled the world with grandpa Ray, riding colts and getting exposed to thousands of horses and riders. When he came of age, Jaton opted to start his career in the performance horse industry. Jaton joins Joe to share his journey of cowboying, showing and helping people ...

Paul Van Dyke is a saddle maker and horse trainer from Sheridan Wyoming. Originally from Michigan, Paul always had a love of the western arts and lifestyle. As a teenager, the course of his life would be changed when he took a trip to Sheridan, Wyoming and met Don Butler. In the Spring of 1997 Paul went to work for Don to learn the art of saddle making. From there, Paul began to carve out a life in the area, riding colts and cowboy...

Zöe Chappelear is a horse trainer from Burbank, Oklahoma. The wife of former guest, Derek Chappelear, Zöe runs her business out of K Barr C Ranch. Zöe joins Joe to share the story of her horsemanship education, the growing of her business and her goals for the future. Topics discussed include getting wholistic education in the horse industry, what it looks like to grow a training business and the importance of letting horses think ...

Dana Glass is a horseman from Wellington, Florida. Dana and his wife, Dressage Olympian Kasey Perry-Glass, both work with horses for a living. Dana did not grow up around horses, but at the end of his collegiate baseball career he was recruited to work on a large guest ranch in Colorado. Though it wasn’t always the easiest work, this job spurred Dana’s passion for working with horses and starting colts. Dana once again had a pivota...