What if the church you’re looking for doesn’t meet in a building on Sunday mornings?
In this conversation, I sit down with Kevin E Beasley —a disciple-making multiplier, coach, and recovering traditional pastor—to explore an ancient-yet-radical approach to Christian community. Kevin helps everyday believers love like Jesus and live like missionaries right where they already are: at work, in their neighborhoods, with their families.
After years in church and business leadership, Kevin devoted his life to equipping people to multiply disciples through simple, reproducible, Spirit-led communities.
As Southeast Regional Director for the Missionary Church Connect region and co-leader of the National Network of Disciple Makers, Kevin is seeing the church rediscover its original design—transformational communities multiplying in the power of the Spirit.
This episode is for anyone who’s ever felt spiritually hungry despite regular church attendance, anyone wrestling with what authentic Christian community really looks like, and anyone sensing God might be calling them to something beyond the Sunday morning experience.
What You’ll Discover
On Spiritual Poverty and God’s PursuitKevin shares his upbringing in rural North Alabama marked by what he calls “spiritual poverty”—a family with no knowledge of Jesus, growing up in a cycle that felt inescapable. Yet even in that environment, God pursued him through small moments and faithful neighbors. His story reminds us that God’s reach extends far beyond church buildings and religious programs.
The Crisis in Traditional Church LeadershipSitting in his third hour of a staff meeting trying to keep big givers from leaving, Kevin experienced a Holy Spirit confrontation: “If I’m lying on my deathbed 40-50 years from now and this is how I spent my life, I would be miserable.” That moment launched him toward radical obedience—walking away from salary, status, and the American church model he’d invested years building.
When Sundays Hit DifferentlyWithout a building and weekly services, Kevin admits Sundays can feel painful. Traditional ministry offers “fleshly satisfaction”—seeing everyone in one room, hearing people call you “pastor,” having visible productivity. In organic disciple-making, your flesh gets “ripped apart” as you trade recognition for faithful obedience in small, often invisible ways.
The Partnership ModelThis isn’t about tearing down traditional churches. Kevin sees a beautiful partnership: attractional churches reaching people who might never encounter Jesus otherwise, while organic movements meet people where they are and multiply disciples through everyday relationships. The kingdom needs both.
Apostolic Gifting and Creating PathwaysMany Christians sense God’s call but don’t know what to do next. Kevin explains how apostolic gifting focuses on creating clear, reproducible pathways—seeing the forest while evangelists see the trees. About 80% of believers aren’t designed to create these pathways themselves; they need someone to show them the way.
The Cost of MultiplicationKevin shares the story of a missionary in a restricted nation where the average lifespan after coming to Christ is 36 days. That’s the kind of costly discipleship the early church knew. While we might not face the same persecution, authentic disciple-making still requires dying to self, comfort, and the approval of others.
Key Timestamps
[00:00:00] Kevin’s opening reflection on hopelessness and transformation[00:03:01] Growing up in spiritual poverty in rural North Alabama[00:07:24] First encounters with Jesus through VBS and faithful neighbors[00:12:42] The 15-day fast that changed everything[00:16:30] Journey through traditional church planting and leadership[00:22:15] The staff meeting that became a Holy Spirit confrontation[00:28:45] Walking away from salary and status for radical obedience[00:35:20] What a simple/organic church actually looks like[00:41:10] When Sundays hit differently without a building[00:47:30] The partnership between attractional and organic churches[00:53:45] Understanding apostolic gifting and creating pathways[00:58:20] Why most believers struggle to know their next step[01:01:02] The forest and the trees—apostles vs. evangelists[01:04:07] Resources and next steps for the curious
Quotes Worth Remembering
On God’s Pursuit:“I can remember being completely hopeless and helpless and thinking that the rest of my life was gonna be like what I’d
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