PBT, Episode 53; Tell Us How You Really Feel (part 1), ft. David Sola

It took some time, but I'm happy to finally get this one out. Part one of a two-part conversation with a fellow Marine, a different perspective, but just as involved and passionate about his stance. 

Episode Transcript

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All right, guys. Episode 53, this one went long.
We recorded it about a month ago, so some of the stuff we
talked about is a little outdated.
I apologize for that. This will be a two-part series.
So this is Part 1 with Mr. DavidSola.
David Sola ran for school board during the last election and I

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want to point out that even though he didn't get elected, he
still shows up to the meetings. He takes notes, he gives public
comment. He values being involved and you
got to respect that. He's an active community member,
a dad in the district, and he has a very strong opinion. him
and I don't know, we see eye to eye, we don't always get along.

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However, we're both Marines and I wanted to hear his position
and his perspective and give hima chance to voice how he feels
about what's been going on. Enjoy.
You ever wonder what is the truth?
Three things cannot be long hidden, the sun, the moon, and

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the truth. Point Blank Truth Podcast, Danny

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Molina here. And across from me is Mr. David
Sola. David, thank you so much for
joining us. Man, hey man, I appreciate the
the opportunity as always to to get together and talk man.
Yeah, yeah, he brought some spiced rum for us to sip on.
Or drink your rum and Cokes likesome freaking Puerto Ricans
over. There, Yeah.
You know it's not Bacardi, though.
You know it's not Bacardi, but it'll do.

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It'll do, It'll do. It's still got the Captain
Morgan. He's got to be Boricua Dog.
I always say that he's got to bePuerto Rican.
Yeah, You know, just look at himwith that leg up.
I got that. You know that new Eurekan,
Captain Morgan? I guess you know that.
What are the kids call it now? It's like main character energy
or something, right? Yeah.
Yeah, she knows what I'm talkingabout.

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So yeah, dude. So I don't know, man.
We, we never got a chance to have you on when you were
campaigning for school board andstuff.
Have you ever talked about that whole experience?
Like what? What was that like for you?
That was your first time runningfor something?
And yeah, man, you know, honestly, like, and, and there's
probably going to be people as, as you are very well aware that

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when you don't do exactly what they want you to do or talk to
who exactly they want you to talk to you, they get kind of in
their feelings, you know what I mean?
So I know that this is probably one of those times.
And now I'm just like, after that experience, I feel like I
don't owe anything to anybody, you know what I'm saying?
Like I, I, I came into this thinking I want to do something

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productive. I was not even a year out of
retiring from the Marines when Iwhen I put my name in the hat
and I honestly didn't realize what like to what depth people
were involved in all of this. You know, you see what's going
on in the news or whatever. Some people are sharing on like,
you know, one of the social media pages.
I'm not going to give any of them a shout out but but.

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That's OK if you do. That's all.
Right. That's not what we're here for.
You know, you see people post stuff on social media and like
even today, like you see stuff and you go, man, is that really
that bad? Or are people just completely
just not exaggerating, but just,I can't be angry 24/7.

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So you see some of this materialon social media and you're just
like, how, how can you do that 24/7?
Like constantly put out negativity, right?
And so I'm thinking, you know what, I got some things to say
And I, I, I'd made like 11 post on one of the social media pages
and the post blew up pretty quickly.
It got like 809 hundred likes orsomething like that in a matter

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of like a day, right? Which I mean, for, for a small
town like this, which is not even that small of a town
anymore, that that's huge. Like that's a, that's a pretty
big amount of people engaging with, with content.
So, and it wasn't, it wasn't coming from it from any like
particular angle. Like, I wasn't like, oh, you
know, the school board is terrible and you know, we need
to be changing this or that. It wasn't anything like that.

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It was like, guys, we can't eventalk right now.
It's so bad that we can't even have a discussion or
disagreement, right? That's how bad it is.
Like you can't. And, and, and I thought, you
know what? Maybe if I came at it from that
perspective, like, let's just talk.
Let's just sit down and talk. Whatever the hard conversation
is, let's have it then I thoughtthat that was going to be

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enough. Right.
Like, yeah, yeah. Then then to my much to my
dismay. Right.
Much to my dismay, it was way, way deeper than that, right.
And I mean, I do appreciate how deep it was because I did meet a
lot of really good people, but Ialso met some people that I
really wish I didn't, you know, during, during the process.
But I mean, no, I haven't reallysat down with anybody and talked
about what the whole experience was like.

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I mean, outside of like my, my very, very close friends and
family. But yeah, man, it was, it was
mind blowing. Like you, you'd think like
you're a parent, you want to be involved.
That shouldn't be that difficult, right?
To like to, to get involved and do something that you feel is
right, that shouldn't be that difficult.
Psych man, it was wild. It was a wild experience.

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It seems like just the politicalplace.
I don't know, trying to be a politician, even at the local
level, I don't think is good foranyone's mental health.
You know, 'cause you're just, it's just it, it feels, it

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probably feels like you're constantly being attacked, You
know what I mean? Like you, like, I know Jen and
Joe experienced that. I know Neil is feeling that.
I know Melinda Anderson's feeling that every, I mean,
Steven Schwartz, you know what Imean?
Like, I tried even from our platform, I tried my best to not
like, go after anybody who's elected, 'cause I know the
pressure. You're not going to be able to

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really represent everybody. You have to make the best
decision that you feel is right for the people you're supposed
to represent. And and that's a lot of
responsibility. So when people are trying to win
a seat, it becomes a war zone. Dude it's so ugly.
You know the part that really blew me away, man, I'm glad that
you said it. Like to be a local politician,
right? Like that's, that's a difficult

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thing. And I never looked at it as I
want to get into politics. Like that's not anything near
what I really like, what I really care about, what
motivates me, you know what I mean?
But when I started this, I was like, it's not, it shouldn't be
this hard, right? Like you should just be able to
put yourself out there. And as long as you're true to
yourself and you're not lying and you're not trying to be

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sneaky and none of that stuff like you should be, all right?
It shouldn't be that bad. Again, not how it actually works
in reality, right? And, and I remember, I think you
told me initially, like, do you know what some of these people
are going through? Like what they experience, what
their families experience? And I was like, to be honest
with you, I I don't right, because I don't, I don't talk to
them. We don't have like a

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relationship like that or anything.
So I didn't know how bad it was going to get.
And eventually I found out, right.
Like I found out. But remember now too, I was only
in the race for like 3 1/2 months.
Like I didn't have a ton of time.
I don't yeah, I came out super. It was like August when we
announced, right. So like maybe maybe late July,

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but either way, it was only a few months.
Some of these people have been going through this for years at
this point, right. And, you know, I, I think I
should have probably been a little bit more apprehensive, a
little bit more like, hey, what are you actually experiencing?
Because the only person I talkedto like initially from all of
the candidates was a meal. And I caught him in the parking

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lot after a school board meeting.
And I just told him, hey, look, you made a speech.
It resonated with me, talked about, you know, yeah, I think
he said something to the effect of like, you know, I know that
you think that you're doing the right thing for the kids, but
you didn't. With all due respect, you didn't
change their diapers. You didn't, you know, nurture
them. You didn't do when they.
And I like that hit me as a parent, I was like, man, I

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really do feel like that. Like not everybody should be
able to tell me what to do with my kids, Right.
Right. And and the political part of
it, dude got so messy so fast. And I was just like thrown back
like, man, how like they're theystarted dragging in my daughter
into stuff. You know, she's an adult now,
but I'm like, what does she haveto do with anything?

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Like if you want to argue with me about what how I feel about
something, then argue with me onthe merits of my argument.
Bro, don't don't bring none of this other stuff that has
nothing to do with it into it. But then I realized that's what
politics is like. They, they will find some way to
get you unbalanced and, and, andunable to like, stay focused on
what you want to focus on. Because I tried to focus on very

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specific things, right, right. During my campaign.
And everybody's like, no, no, no, but what about?
This. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was like, damn, like, I guess I can't talk about just
what I want to. Yeah, what I want.
To do people seem to look for the one thing they don't agree
with you on and then highlight that as your main talking point
or or or misrepresented in a waythat is is disingenuous.

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Yeah. But the wild part is though,
that like I, I was hearing from,and I told you this before, like
I was hearing from certain people that if I talked to you
that you were going to be that person, right?
And I told them, I told plenty of people I met with Danny a
couple times and guess what? He's never tried to change my
mind about, about anything, right?

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Like he's never tried to change my mind.
And, and I said, you know, with that in mind, I'm not going to
just start listening to what everybody tells me about
everybody else, right? Like I, I, I'd rather sit down
with you and, and kind of get a measure of your character while
I'm sitting down with you. The problem with that is that it
only works for people that want to show up.
A lot of people are not even trying to do that.
They just want to throw rocks, right?

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Throw, throw, you know, shade atyou and then when you say, hey,
come see me because I want to, Iwant to know really what's on
your mind. Yeah, they go why do I want to
see you for Right, right. And I'm like, because I I care,
you know what I mean? Like I actually do care.
Yeah, it ain't that I'm trying to change your mind neither,
right, Right. So anyway, yeah, the whole thing
got kind of crazy and I just. It's funny, you know, it's funny

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that you say that because just, I was telling you earlier,
Jeremy Murphy is the guys name by the way.
OK, I was just telling you he was like an online hater of me.
Like I thought it was like like a fake account, you know, 'cause
like he doesn't have any photos,didn't have a lot of followers.
And then it was just, I was justalways being berated by him, you
know, And then I would say I would tell him like, bro, if you

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want to meet in person, we and he'd be like, why would I meet
with you, you know? And like, it was one of those
things. And I don't know what changed in
this person's mind, but we met last week finally.
And like everybody thinks that when I take that approach that
I'm, I'm trying to be confrontational.
I'm not. It's the opposite.
It's that, look, I am very direct.

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I'm a very direct person. So it's easy for someone to read
something I wrote online and take it as me like coming hard
at them when it's like, I would look at you in the face and say
that same thing and you wouldn'ttake it as negatively.
You know what I mean? Well, it's hard to extract tone
and emphasis from from texts. Right like most of communication
is non. Verbal, that's right.

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Like 75% of communication is nonverbal.
So if you can't have that like genuine interaction with
somebody, how do you know that they're going to pick up what
you're putting down? Yeah, you can't see their body
language, their facial expressions, their eye contact.
All of that changes the dynamic.And it was just interesting
because I'm sure at first when Jeremy was like, no, I'm not
going to meet with you. I'm sure that he thought that

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like, I would like, try to get aggressive.
And then when we did, it was like, look, dude.
And I also Apollo, I said, hey dude, I'm sorry if I said
anything crazy to you. I'm just, I don't like the
online shit, you know? Well, you're still a human being
too. This is the other part.
Like people don't realize that there's a person behind that,
right? Like you might.
And believe me, man, I still deal with the, with the
anonymous accounts on a regular basis, right?

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They don't realize that there's a person on the other side of
that. So if I, if I slip or I revert
back to a person that I don't want to be, that ain't something
that I consciously did, right? Like I'm, I'm telling you, bro,
if you want to talk to me, stop yelling at me first of all, or
stop disrespecting me or stop, you know, whatever it is that
they're trying to do, you know, to, to rattle you.
But you got to remember that a lot of people are not trying to

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really have a serious conversation with you.
They just want to, they just want to, you know, fuck with
you. They don't.
They don't want to really. Excuse me, I.
Know you Oh no it's all good it's.
All good. No fuck shit.
No. I feel you though, man, because
like I tell people all the time,like who I, who I try to like
present myself as online. It's only a best effort of me
showing you who I am. It there's no way it's a one to

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one. There's no way who who you see
online is the exact same person that I am in real life.
I'm just trying my best to be that same person because I don't
want to be a hypocrite. That's literally all it is.
Like I'm not trying to be a hypocrite.
If I, if I mess up, I'm more than willing to accept that and
be like, Hey, you know what? I screwed up.
I shouldn't have said that or I shouldn't have done that.
And that happened before, man, that happened.
I mean, a few months ago when that math the finance book thing

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came out and I, I mean, I went off.
I was like, how does this not offend people?
Like we shouldn't be talking about selling your soul to the
devil in a, in a book. And I got destroyed.
I got destroyed by teachers. I got destroyed by, you know,
most of the people on the left, right.
And I'm sitting there going, what the fuck?
You guys only like me when I sayshit that you agree with that

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you agree with, right, that that's unfair.
I mean, if I'm wrong right now, I don't realize it yet.
Right, right, right. So it took it took another,
another person who worked with us during during the campaign to
reach out and be like, David, you should not have done that.
And here's why ABCD and I went, oh shit, you know what, you're
right. I I should not have done that.
That doesn't change how I feel, right, right.
That doesn't change that. I feel like that shouldn't have

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been in that book, which I mean,I think everybody can agree like
well, and everybody can't agree.And I guess that's why people
got. But I think I think it is a
common sense position to be like, hey, like, you know, like
we don't want biblical talks in school.
Then we shouldn't have anything related to Satan or the devil.
It's just it's a weird thing. It is.
There's a lot of you can use anything else.

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What happened to 12 apples, fouroranges?
You know what I think? We're the most creative, like we
are the most creative species onthis planet.
We can't find another way to like make illustrate that same
point, You know what I mean? And everybody was like, well,
you got to keep the kids involved.
And I'm like, not at not that way.
Like there's other ways you can keep the kids involved, right?
But the other thing is like, youknow, I, I, I read the problem

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and I read it a couple times andthen the mom was really like, it
was on like next door or something.
The mom was really like, I need help.
I don't, I'm not OK with this. And it like, so to me as a
parent, it started to like really like tug at my
heartstrings. Like I know what it feels like
to be a parent that that feels like they need to do something
and needs help. And they don't know where to go.
They don't. Know where to go, right, There's
no, there's no like, hey, this is the parents Google for

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whatever. Like you have to navigate a
process that one you're not evensure if you trust, right?
That's the first thing. And then second, it's unclear.
It's a Oh no, everybody, everybody says you could just go
to this person or go to that person.
If you've never done it before. Do you really think that that's
easy, right to navigate? It's not that easy.
I mean, you know, you got to, you got to put yourself in that
position and, you know, when it came to that specific situation,

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people just didn't like that. I was like, look, I'm a
confirmed Catholic. Yeah.
You know, like I, I, I have verystrong beliefs about, I'm not
practicing right now, but I still have very strong beliefs
about selling my soul to the devil.
Like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna support something like
that. And especially not in a, in AK
through 12 environment. And I get it.
Yeah, it's high school. Yeah, it's, it's 1718 year olds.
But some of that stuff, man, I'll tell you right now, when I

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was 17 or 18, I was not mature enough to digest.
And maybe that's just me, but ifit was me, that means that it
could be anybody, you know what I mean?
Anyway, so. And, and also I think it's also
like subjective, right? It's like I, I feel like as a
regular community member, right,I shouldn't be criticized for,
for standing on my position of like that's inappropriate.

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That shouldn't be in the curriculum when there's a parent
in our community that whose child got this work that they're
not OK with, that they're not comfortable with.
You know what? Well, it's validating.
Yeah, but, you know, it's like who, who, who is anyone else to
tell that parent, no, you shouldn't feel that way.
And the same people that are yelling at you for having the
position that you have would be just as frustrated if there was

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an assignment that went out thatsaid boys are boys and girls are
girls. You know what I mean?
It's. Like, I mean, it's hard to,
you're right. It is subjective, right?
Like I can't tell you how to feel.
But the problem that we're having is that it's not just
people trying to tell people howto feel.
It's also them telling them thatthey have no right to feel that
way. Yeah.
And I'm sitting here going, you cannot do that.
You can't both say, like, I havea right to feel this way, but

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you should not at all in the waythat you feel, right.
And the and we just can't have that conversation.
We can't, and then it always turns into bully tactics.
That's right. Like the, the, the left will
call you a bigot, a racist, transphobic, homophobic right
and, and the extreme right will say you're a Satanist, you're a
devil worship. Oh yeah, you're, you're, you're

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a rhino. Yes, you know.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, if you don't subscribe
to exactly what my my world viewis, if you don't validate it
now, like, you might as well be the worst enemy that I could
ever come across. And I think that's fucked up,
man. Because to, to be completely
honest, like, you know, this sounds a little hipster, right?
But like we're in this, we're inthis experience together, man.
We get one shot at this life thing.

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And if we, if we reduce it down to either you're with me or
you're not, dude, that's a tragedy, man.
Like we, we should be able to have those disagreements and not
like destroy each other. And, and you know, I, I did
really feel that way previously.I'm starting to come around to
the fact that that that approachjust doesn't work with certain
people like you. You have to be tougher.

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You have to be willing to stand your ground, you know, and and
not like take the High Road or turn the other cheek because
what, what people take when you do that is they take that as
weakness and now they're going to double down on it.
And now I'm sitting here going, just because I didn't engage
with you then doesn't mean that I'm like just resigning to you
being correct, right, Right. You know what I'm saying?

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Yeah, but, and but that's the other shitty thing about social
media is that's kind of what it turns into, where it's like
everybody's always looking to get the last word and.
And just just because you don't respond, those people are like,
that's right. They don't have anything to say.
It's like, or I'm just ignoring you because I think you're a
moron. Yeah.
It isn't worth it anymore. Yeah, like I'm putting all this
effort in for. What?
Yeah, you, you, you came into a post that is is 8 weeks old and

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it's commenting something stupid, bro, You know what I
mean? It's like.
Yeah, like I'm not waiting for, I'm not waiting for you to
comment 8 weeks later so that I could be like, ah, gotcha.
Right. Like, man, you're here for the
social media likes. And you know, that's another
thing that I think we have a very serious problem with as a
society. Like we don't even know what
these what these phones in our hands are doing to us.
And when you're sitting there and your entire existence

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revolves around that notification going off, like how
how can that be a real, like, genuine experience?
It's not like you're you're in control based.
Something else is controlling you.
Yeah, Right. And I mean, there's tons of
research and documentaries that'll tell you that like, this
is destroying us right here, right?
Yeah. This self, well, it's like, it's
like we get a drop of like dopamine.

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Right. Yeah, there's a hit.
You get a hit every time you do.I mean, it's a different type of
drug, right? Yeah, but.
You feel like shit, like sometimes if you get caught
scrolling for too long and like,you know, I don't know about you
but I feel it's like, oh God. Oh yeah, listen, I have, I have
to I have to literally put my phone on DND or shut it off.
Yeah, just so that I cannot feellike the world has control over
what what I'm gonna look at today.

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You know what I mean? Yeah.
Yeah. Breaks, like deliberate breaks
on social media and stuff like that.
You gotta do stuff like that. Yeah.
For your, for our own health. Yeah.
And like, this grew so fast. I mean, you remember, man, like
Myspace was, was our thing, like, and it quickly turned to
Facebook, which quickly turned to Instagram, which quickly
turned to Snapchat. And I mean, like all these other
TikTok, all this stuff comes along so fast that we don't even

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have time to like, prepare ourselves right for what it's
gonna do or what could how it could potentially control.
Yeah, I'm not trying to be like a conspiracy theorist or
anything. But no.
But you're on to something. Yeah, man.
Like we, we and then the kids doit.
And then we think that we're keeping them in touch with their
friends and what we're really doing is helping them
disassociate. Yeah.
From, from society. Because now if I don't want to

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have, like, if we have a discussion, we have a
disagreement, all I have to do just block you.
Yeah. That's not how the world
actually works, right? Right.
You can't. I'm still gonna see you in
Albertsons. What we gonna do?
Pretend like we don't see, like,you know what I mean?
Like there's just no, it's it's really dumbing down and watering
down our our existence. Yeah.
And when we live in a town like this, where like, it is a small
town, man, like I, I see people,you know, all over the place

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that I see at football games, that I see at parent teacher
conferences, that I see like people that I see all the time.
And I don't wanna block you because I don't, I don't agree
with you. Yeah, right.
Yeah. If I block you, it's because
you're like, you're harassing meor something, not because, not
'cause I disagree. With you, you know what I mean.
So we've, we've made it so that it just, it's so easy to just
get rid of the, the noise, right?
Just 'cause we don't want, we don't want noise.

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That's not that's not legit, man.
Yeah, You know, it's funny. It's like everybody wants you to
subscribe to how they think and how they feel when it comes to
like the political space, you know, everybody has a position.
You're either on one side or theother.
And you'll see that the extreme of either end will paint you as
the opposite side as soon as they see that you don't agree

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with everything that they that they see or they want.
And it's just, it's an ugly way to be, but I think there's also
a way to just rise above it. I think that you just take the
Lickins bro, you know, and then let.
Me tell you I tried. Let me tell you, I tried my
hardest to just not engage. I think, man, there's several
times that I probably texted youlike just pissed that something,

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that something happened, right? And I was like, what the fuck?
Like, man, like why are these people so fucking rude?
Like you're, you're going to really try to like cause an
issue, an incident with my family in my vehicle.
You know what I mean? Like, and, and I sit there and I
just go take the High Road. Don't, don't engage.
But at the same time, like I'm trying to think of like, dude,

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so that guy up there, Staff Sergeant Molina, right?
Like, Can you imagine if someonethreatened that guy's family,
right? Yeah, That's a different, That's
a different, that's a different person.
You don't want to and you don't want to go back to that person,
right? Because you're like, Nah, man, I
work too hard and sacrifice too much to get here.
Why would I go back to that? And.
That's how I feel, man. Yeah, it's, and it's so crazy
that you bring that up, because that's the other thing that

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people I think struggle with outhere is, motherfucker, I wasn't
born and raised out here. Oh yeah, no, I didn't come from
the ME Street to Temecula. I'm not.
I'm not from here, dawg. I'm from a different world, a
different place, and it's like Mike Tyson said it best, bro.
He's got one of my favorite quotes.
He said if you knew how dangerous people could be, you
wouldn't fuck with any. Ohh, I bet that's it bro.
Like it's like I got another. One from him that you can like

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if I know this one, everybody has a plan until they get
punched in the they get punched the right yeah, like and you're
spot on though, man. Like people because of social
media and because they can they know that they can antagonize
you within the safety of their home, right.
They feel like you're not going to say something and I'm sorry
I'll say it right now. I'm sorry to everybody that
thinks that I'm like, you know that I not that I'm like this

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great person or something, but thinks that I'm just above
reproach and that I'm not going to ever like devolve into what
our our human instinct is when you defend yourself right.
But if you really want smoke with me, I'm not just going to
be like, Nope, I'll just avoid you.
Yeah. Or, or something like no, OK,
like let's let's see what you'rereally trying to accomplish

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right now because I'm not Listen, I went through the
afraid stuff. Yeah.
When I was wearing that uniform.That's that's the last time that
I was legitimately afraid. I ain't afraid of nothing now.
Yeah. So don't don't sit there and
make threats on. Me and I also feel like it's
like we joined the service and we joined and we were in during
a time of war. I feel like I earned my place to
have a position, to have a voice.

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If I disagree, I'm gonna make itknown.
And it's funny as people who've known me my whole life, I was
just talking to somebody from back home the other day, like
they're like, Oh, I see you got a podcast.
Like that's great. What's it about?
And like I told them, like, you know, I just got involved in
like the community and, and the school board stuff.
And I just talked to people and I just try to keep everybody
informed and have real conversations and, and give my

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perspective. And they're like, damn, dude,
you haven't changed. You're still the same guy that
speaks up. And like, I've always been like
that. So now I feel like when people
use bully tactics or they try tocome at me sideways online or
whatever, it's like we both knowthat in person you would not be
talking to me like this. We both know that I would shut

(24:37):
you down instantly as soon as you got too heavy.
Handed Oh yeah, once. Once it became more than just a
discipline, right? Like once, once you were not
able to like respectfully present your opinion.
I don't have to sit there and take.
That and, but and also and also,I think that there's some shit
that I will take. You could yell at me and curse
at me and scream at me and I'm Iwouldn't even.
Because your principles are already like SOLID, right?

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You're like, you're like I I will allow that because it's I'm
not going to let. That affect me but and but also
it's kind of like what you said,like I'm not I'm not beyond the
person that I used to be like. I think it's more that you're
sitting here going, you're becoming a threat now.
You're going from being threatening to becoming a
threat. Yeah, and but even then, I feel

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like it takes a lot to get therelike it does.
Like it does. In order for me to take it
there, you would have to put hands on me.
Yeah. I I just go around.
Yeah, Right. Yeah, But I wanna.
But I wanna look at you. I wanna look at you and I wanna
talk to you. And that's kind of why I created
the platform like this, bro. Like we're drinking.
And you and I don't agree on everything.
We've had our disagreements. Sure.
You know, I voted for Doctor K and and I told you that and I.

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We've talked about that plenty of times.
Yeah, it's interesting because Ithink there's more value in this
and like looking at somebody andhaving the conversation because
nothing can be misconstrued. You know, we can, we can have
disagreements and, and it doesn't have to be 100%
respectfully. I'm not somebody that's like
like just sit in front of me, right?
It's like there's been people who have come at me sideways in

(26:05):
person. Yeah, you look like an idiot.
You're the one that screams. As long as you maintain your
composure, yeah, that, but that's it.
And that's the thing you got to try to keep.
And that's the hard part too, because sometimes like it's
you're only, you know, one step away from them being inside of
your space and you're like, don't, don't do that.
I'm telling you don't do that because I don't want this to
escalate, right? And it ain't because I'm worried

(26:27):
about it escalating. I'm worried about you.
Yeah, well, yeah. And also, I'm a big guy, bro,
You know what I mean? It's like, don't put me in a
position where I have to like, defend myself physically.
Yeah, yeah. Don't do that because that's not
something that I'm beyond, you know, but but some people I feel
like, and this is where I do block people.
This is where I do stay away from people.
Some people, their goal is to antagonize.

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Yes. Some people their goal, like
they want me to get to that point so then they can
immediately play victim. Oh, it's easy to do, man.
I see it all the time too. Like, you know, I, I, I again,
I'm not name dropping on here. That's not what I'm not you.
Yeah. Yeah.
So, you know, there's, there's, there's plenty of people, you
know, the people that I'm talking about.
And they will, you know. Yeah, if I, if I see you, yeah,

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I'm going to have the same energy.
You might have the same stuff. And then you go, well, then see
me then. And then what do they do?
Why? So you can try to intimidate me.
So you can try to you know who I'm talking about?
You. I know you hear this too.
So whoever you are, yes, I'm talking about you.
Like, don't say come see me. Yeah, I'm not afraid of you.
Don't don't sit there and say I'm the biggest, you know, 5

(27:31):
foot 7 nightmare. You know, I'm not a big dude,
right? But I listen to me.
I say this to everybody, I've been punched in the face before
and guess what? It's not that bad.
Like straight up like everybody's afraid of like if
somebody punches you in the, youthink I'm going to go to like
call the sheriff's non-emergencynumber because you punched me in
the get out of here. What kind of are you kidding me?
How could I ever look at my son after that right?

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And go, yeah, son, you know, so your, your dad was a tough guy.
Like I'm not trying to like pretend like I'm a tough guy,
but also like in tough situations, I show up, I'm gonna
show up. So like if I just can't imagine
trying to antagonize somebody and then when they go come see
me and I go time and place. Look, man.
And this is a bias towards action.
That's what that does, right? When you when you wear that, you

(28:15):
have a bias towards action. They tell you do not stand idle,
do not stand pat when there is something that comes up that
requires interaction, intervention, stand in, step up.
Right. So when I'm thinking about these
situations and I'm like, I'm, I'm excited.
I'll, I'll get into this with you if you want, right?
Yeah. And I look at the videos of
myself that I recorded that day,you know, meeting up with the
anonymous dude who's who's doxing my family and putting my

(28:37):
address on. I realize I look crazy, man.
Like I I look genuinely excited to have that altercation and I'm
sitting here. Like but you are, you are.
But that's OK though. Here's the thing, Here's the
thing. I feel like it is.
It is. But when you come down from that
high and the adrenaline goes away, you sit there and go, Oh
my gosh, like 40 years old, bro.Like, I should not be buying

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into those antagonists, right? Like, like, it's, it's a
different thing altogether if there's a serious threat, right?
But if it's somebody that's justtrying to get you to like
engage, you can't, you just can't do it.
You can't engage with them because they're giving.
You're giving them exactly what they want.
Here's the problem, though, is when it comes to engagement,
when it comes to online interactions, it has to be

(29:21):
executed in good faith. You know what I mean?
It has to be genuine. Yeah, like, right off the bat,
if you're hiding behind a fake account, it's like you you
already lost me, bro. Like, you're not even.
You're not even a real. What's your credibility?
Yeah, like it drives me crazy onlike the local Facebook groups,
people do anonymous posts. I'm like, dude, what a?
Post Why do we allow? That Yeah dog, don't be

(29:42):
anonymous. What the fuck it's like.
Say what you're. Saying yo, stay in the business,
like in business, yeah. And I think that this is this is
the culture that we're in. Is there is this shame culture
that happens where people are afraid to say how they feel
because they know that the the political extreme people that
disagree with them, yeah, they're just going to shame you

(30:03):
and bully you. And it's like we I think we need
a little bit. It's a, but it's a shitty.
Bully tag. I know, I know, but I hate that.
And I'm not saying that you do it just for the sake of winning
your argument. What I'm saying is that, like,
if you're going to shame somebody, right, shame them
because they did something illegal, unethical or immoral,
don't shame them because I just don't like what you said.
Like, that's garbage. You know what I'm saying?

(30:24):
Yeah, well, but like, not bad. I was.
Talking to them, I think a lot of these people, I think a lot
of them, they do shame them because in their mind that is
unethical. You know, that's disgusting.
You know, like a bunch of peoplehave said my my recent video
that I, I put up just basically saying like if we are saying
that children know their gender,children can pick their gender

(30:47):
at any age and nobody should impede in that.
Then equally, when my child saysthat a biological boy in their
locker room makes them uncomfortable, then nobody has a
right to impede on my child's thought process of that.
I. I no, I don't.
Yeah, I, I, I actually agree with what you're saying.
Yeah, I agree with. What you're saying?
Yeah, because I agree with like,let the kid be the kid.

(31:10):
Fine. But you can't you can't
abandoned that philosophy because this child has a
position that you don't like. And it's like Oh well you need
to raise your kids better Bro that's a shitty argument.
You're trying to shame me for respecting my child's opinion.
Yeah, I think that that's the yeah, that's unfair, right?

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It's unfair because especially when you talk about how a child
feels, period, forget about whatthe subject matter is, right?
If a child feels uncomfortable in any situation to say be
better is it's the same thing asvictim blaming.
You can't, you can't just say bebetter because you can't tell
anybody else how to feel about anything.

(31:51):
That's that's literally the one thing you cannot do.
You cannot tell somebody how to feel.
And so, and so, and so when we sit there and we look at that
situation, man, like, gosh, I would hate to, to, to be in that
position, right? Where I have to like, I have to
like say that I'm uncomfortable.Cuz when you're in school,
listen, man, when you're in middle school, high school, you

(32:11):
just trying to get by, man. Let's be honest, like you're not
trying to sit there and spend more time in that locker room
than absolutely necessary to getyour clothes changed over and
get out to where you need to go and vice versa, right?
So when we, when we amplify the smallest time of, of that, and
then we go, this is super important.
You need to pay attention to this.

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One thing is for sure, we cannottell somebody what to do with
that. You can say this is important
issue and you should pay attention.
I think that that's that's right, right.
To say like how do you feel? How does this make you feel?
What what do you want to do? Like do you want to be in an
environment like that or do you not?
I think that that's a fair question.
And I think that whatever the answer is, we should accept,
right? No matter what the answer is
from anybody, from anybody. What?

(32:54):
Yeah, from anybody, we should accept.
And if you don't accept it, thenwe need to come up with
something that will help you to navigate that, right?
Not, not shame you, not like sayyour opinion doesn't matter more
than mine or more than this person or that child.
Like no, we're talking about twokids right now is essentially
what we're talking about, right?And if we're going to say how

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you feel matters and how you feel matters, we need to have a
system that is able to compromise to help both of them,
right? Not, you know, advance one over
the other. Yeah, right.
It's find a way to, to make it work.
And we don't have that right now, right.
Even with the most recent, you know, parental notification and,
and all of the policies that areto, to be honest, there's so
many that we could, we could spend a whole podcast talking

(33:35):
about every single one, right. But I think when we look at the
the policies that we have right now, they are moving in more in
that direction. It's just moving at a painfully
slow pace because we are still in this world where we don't get
to make all the decisions and rules, right?
And that sucks. That sucks, especially as a
parent because you're like, wait, why?

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Why can't, why can't we get there?
And I'll tell you, and, and I'm straight up being honest, I
don't think that we would have people on either side coming to
meet at that table. We talked about this trying to
get people to come to the table right from from both extremes.
Those people don't want to talk to each other.
They don't want to talk to each other.
They. They don't even like those

(34:19):
people on the far end of either side.
Unless you subscribe to everything they subscribe to,
they don't even want to hear it.They don't if you're if you're a
centrist, they they dismiss. Oh yeah.
I mean, it's tough, man. Because like now it's like
lesser of two evils. And I mean, we've been through
enough of that. Yeah, well, that's the way it
seems. It's always been like just
politically in our country, I I really didn't start paying

(34:40):
attention until the first Trump election 'cause I knew I was
getting out before then. I didn't care.
I didn't care about politics, though, you know, I was going to
follow the commander in chief wherever we.
Went dude, I always said this like I don't, I don't care who
sits in that in that house. They're not ever going to know
who I am, right? But but I I feel like more
people voted for Trump because they didn't want Hillary.

(35:00):
More people voted for Biden 'cause they didn't want Trump.
More people voted for Trump. This time 'cause they didn't
want you know what you might be.You might be on to something
there. Where where it's not just about
how many people you can get to to like subscribe to your entire
message. Yeah, it's how many people can
tolerate you. Yeah, right.
Yeah, that's really cuz I mean, I, I feel you.
I, I 100% could not bring myselfto support Hillary Clinton.

(35:25):
I was, you know, I was on activeduty at that time too, right.
And I'm like, wait a minute. If I had a fucking a secret
e-mail, all right on my phone, Iwould get strung up.
Yeah, for that, right. And I would listen, I, you know,
I worked in the air wing. I spent a lot of time around
classified material and the way that we, like, protected.
That was wild to see what would happen with her, right.

(35:45):
So I am going to say straight up, there is no way that I could
have supported Hillary. And I lost a lot of friends, you
know, having that position. That's unfortunate.
Yeah, I did. But but then next time around,
I'm like, OK, now what? Right, like now, now what do I
do? It just, it gets worse and worse
every single time. And locally, I think, you know,
you said this before. There's two things that you said

(36:06):
that I really wanted to like talk about really quick.
One of them is if you're a veteran and you do not get
involved in your community, whatthe fuck did you join up for,
right? Like you, you should be leading
these conversations, not destroying them, right?
You should be trying to lead these conversations because we,

(36:26):
we came from a world where it really was a meritocracy, right?
Like you advance based on your own individual efforts.
That's, that's one part. But then the other part is if
you're going to get involved, you can't just flip all the
tables when you come in, right? Like you, you got to find a way
to, to bridge those gaps and build those bridges.
And it's hard, man. It's so hard because I I mean,

(36:47):
dude, I can't tell you how many times during that election I was
getting destroyed by veterans like talking mad crazy shit.
And I'm like, bro, are you? Are you for real?
You act like you look at my and I put all my stuff out there,
right? Like I don't try to hide.
I was a Pogue. Yep, proud as hell right that I
was a Pogue. I put all my stuff out there and

(37:08):
yet still you want to still comeand try and take cheap shots or
try and say that I did all this stuff right and I'm like.
Hey, have you spoken to George Raps Wits at all?
Dude I haven't seen George sincethe ninja picture.
Bro I've seen I've ever seen George since the ninja picture
man I got. To check in on them.
Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't have any of his contact
information for anybody. That's like not aware of what

(37:29):
was going on. George Rapshowitz, who was
running for City Council againstMatt Ron, you know, he's a, he's
a very unique individual, very unique guy.
And he's not, he's not apologetic, bro.
He's a, he's a, he's a fucking Purple Heart recipient combat
veteran. Yeah.
What do you expect? What do you expect from somebody
that's had that happen? That you know what I mean?

(37:50):
It's like he got the shit end ofthe stick because of who he is.
Like they called him Crazy George.
You should. Yeah, I mean, but, but I mean,
he wasn't doing any favors for himself.
It's true. You know what I'm saying?
So I'm not. I'm not saying I don't think
that that should condemn you. Though I mean, no, I don't.
Think that should condemn you? I think like yes.
I like that he came in and he didn't.
Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing though, right?
Like we're, we're politics in general, right?

(38:11):
Is, is there's like this paradigm shift now where we're
seeing that if you're more genuine, even if you're an
asshole, right, even if you're aDick head to everybody that you
talk to, there's going to be people that are like, oh, I, I
like that, right? And I'm sitting here going, you
like what? Like, you know what I mean?
Like this dude is, is literally trying to tell me like

(38:32):
essentially get out of the race or I'm going to tell everyone
you're a poke. And I'm like, and I'm like
George, I'll put a flag outside my house that says I'm a poke.
I don't care. I don't care.
Poke is a person other than Grunt, by the way.
Yeah, for those. For those of you that don't
know, right, and a grunt is an infantryman.
And I mean in, in the Marine Corps, like every single job,

(38:56):
every single MOS in the Marine Corps supports the grunt.
They support the infantryman. That's literally like the the
job is to make sure that the grunt can do their job.
Yeah, the, the, the word came from, I want to say it was like
World War One when people would sign up because you were either
an infantryman or a POGA person other than grunt, and they would
put that on your paperwork. So it just stuck through the

(39:18):
years. And you know, I'm sure it's not
as as obviously it's probably not as big of a topic in the
other branches of service like the Air Force or the Navy.
But in the Marine Corps, it's like you're a poke.
You know what I mean? Like those are fighting words
dog for some people. Here's.
The here's the funny part too, right?
Like some people take it that way, but that's I think that's
ego more than anything, right? Like if you've been in anything
beyond one enlistment, right. Like you got it.

(39:40):
Yeah, yeah, I'm a poke bro. I got it.
No worries. I'm I'm very happy with my poke
status but but here's the. And you're right, you're right.
But here's The thing is, sometimes someone will use it in
a disparaging way. You know what I mean?
It's. Oh, yeah, that's, I mean, oh,
dude, I had people that wouldn'tsit down with me for lunch at
when we first moved to North Carolina, right.
My wife and I lived in this nicetownhouse and all of our

(40:01):
neighbors are super nice. There was one neighbor that he
would not not, he would not evenlet his wife come over to our
house. And I was like, what is that
with your husband? Like what?
I was a Sergeant at the time, you know, and he's a Lance
Corporal, right. And I'm like, if he's worried
about rank, like, trust me, we're not at work.
Like, you know what I mean? Like it's fine.
And she was like, no, it's, he said.
It's because you're a poke. And I was like, I was like what?

(40:23):
Like, OK, so like if you get a flat tire, I'm not allowed to
help you because I'm a poke. Like I, I just, I don't
understand that, right. So like it.
It is pretty serious in some. Yeah, it is like, 'cause some
people will throw it at you to like, basically say like, oh,
you're a bitch compared to me. I know, right?
I'll smack the fuck out of you, you know?
Like, and then you got to tell all your buddies you got fucked

(40:44):
up by a poke. Yeah, Yeah, right.
Let's see. I remember I was hanging out
with some friends and years ago,dude, and there was a girl there
and she was asking, she heard ussaying the word Pogue she was
asking with. And I explained it to her like,
oh, you know, it's kind of like uses like derogatory in the
military to people who aren't infantrymen, you know?
But, you know, it's just the reality, you know, is they

(41:06):
anybody who's not a grunt? And she's like, well, what'd you
do? And I was like, oh, I'm a radio
operator. And she goes, oh, so you're a
Pogue. And I was like, yeah, but don't
ever fucking call me that. Guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's going to be the last
time. You're the last time.
You called me. Yeah.
Do you understand that? Right.
Yeah, right now. But that's that's really The
funny thing, though. Like George is like, I'm going

(41:27):
to tell everybody you're a poke.And I'm like, I'm like George,
you're not a grunt, bro. Like, yes, you were attached to
grunts. And for for all intents and
purposes. What his name?
I thought he was a grunt. No, he was a field wireman.
Oh, that's right, that's right. That's.
Right, so so I'm like, yeah, you're attached to grunts and
that's that's great, though, man, Like I, I feel you.
But like at the same token, likeare you going to say that the
motor T dudes that are like driving in them, in them

(41:50):
Humvees, that they're not grunts, right, That they're
pokes? Are you going to say that that
air crew that's doing that hot LZ insert that they are not like
that they're not worthy, right. Is that what you're trying to
get at? Because, like, there's no end to
that. Same thing with like the the all
the fat teams that got combat. Oh yeah, man.
The lioness. Yeah, absolutely.
And they, they fucking got afterit, yeah.

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That they, they were doing that shit before women were even
allowed in infantry. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
So like I, I, I, I just didn't know how to react to his like,
and I was just like George, tellthem whatever you want, dude.
These guys in their attacks are just to me, it was juvenile.
It was really like, that's the best thing that you can, you can
find on me, man. Like, holy shit.
Like I tried to tell George to to I, I tried to get him to pull

(42:32):
back a little bit just because it's like, bro, this is that's
not your battle. You.
Know what I mean? That's not they were using him
man and I hate. That yeah, it's like you say
that you got your own raise and then you're you're focusing on
David's, you're focusing on David solely.
You're not even really competingagainst, you know, and anyways,
dude, he got, you know, and, andI had, and I had George on, man.

(42:53):
And I I like George, you know I don't.
I know you told me that I'm coolwith him.
I've never so after all that. I've kicked it with him once and
but I don't know what happened. I haven't spoken to him in a
while. I couldn't find him on social
media anymore. So I don't know what came of
that or what happened. But I just know when you were,
when you were talking about likepeople, I knew you were talking
about him because he. Was like, he was just so out
there. It's not just George though,

(43:14):
man, Like there's, there's a lotof people that they're going to
try to minimize you, right? And people only do that when
they're worried about you. I'll be, I'll be straight up
like if they're not worried about you, they're not going to
say shit. And when they get worried about
you is when they're like, Oh yeah, you, you got something to
hide, right? And we're going to find out what
it is. And I'm like, bro, I go to sleep
at 8:30 normally, right? It's my.
Bedtime right now, sitting across from you, Danny.

(43:34):
And like, and like you're, you're really trying to make me
out to be something that I'm not, right?
So initially it was just bothersome because I'm like,
man, why are you lying? Right?
But I think what really fucked me up where I was like, oh, I'm
about to slap somebody right, was when they send this Mailer
out basically saying that I wantsexual content in schools.

(43:55):
That to me was like, all right, y'all have just taken it from
you disagree with me to we just made some shit up because there
is no way that I would ever advocate to have sexual content
in schools. I will say though, that you
can't twist an opinion into thatwithout having a real
conversation right? Because like honestly, is there

(44:16):
material that I think benefits kids?
Yes. Is there material that benefits
kids but can also be detrimentalto them?
Also yes there's stuff that we got to be careful with right?
And that's really what a lot of people were afraid of.
And instead of these guys who are like, and I'm assuming this
is the IE family pack or whatever, instead of these guys
going, let's just not even fucking pay attention to David

(44:36):
and just focus on what we're doing.
They just decided to throw dirt.And the dirt wasn't even true.
And I'm sitting here like you fucking people who claim to be
this higher morality and at the end of the day you're no better
than the people that you hate. Yeah, it's like that quote is
when you stare into the darkness, The darkness also
stares back into you. You ever heard that?

(44:58):
That sounds like some Batman shit.
Yeah, it's a who talks about it a lot.
Jordan Peterson talks about it alot.
Where the the whole, the whole point is like you become the the
people you despise. Oh, that's the yeah, that's the
you either. This one might actually be
Batman. You either become the hero.
Oh yeah, yeah, I think that is Batman.
Who is hold on who, I want to say, Is it Nietzsche?

(45:21):
I want to say, oh man, you're getting philosophical over here.
You ever have a Lance Corporal that he probably was a good
Lance Corporal and he gets out and well, while he's in, he's
not really motivated. He probably, you know, struggles
to maintain like, you know, 4/2 pros and cons or something,
right? And when he gets out, he

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suddenly becomes the biggest motivator on the planet.
Like he EAS and suddenly, suddenly he's like, you know.
Don't even get me stuff. Got the 4th of July tattoo.
Don't even get. These motherfuckers who they,
they try to avoid every field upthey're, they're always, they're
always on sick call. I can't make it to PTI.
Got to leave early because I gotto get my kids.

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All these kids, they hate the Marine Corps.
They they never want to go to the Marine Corps ball.
They talk about how much it sucks.
They can't wait to get out and then they get out.
And then it's like I was a Marine for four years.
I was squared away. And and like, shut, bro.
And especially, yeah, and especially these days, you sit
there and go, there are going tobe people that know you, bro.

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Like someone is going to know that that's not who you were.
Yeah. So why are you sounding so?
You're saying it with your chest, but it's not even true.
Are you getting to something with something?
Yeah, so here's what happened, right?
So, so, you know, I, I give comments, you know, as
frequently as I can based on howI feel about what whatever the
material is right at the school board meeting.
And most of the time I want to talk about how they're going to

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fund stuff, why they're wasting money.
That's most of the stuff that I want to talk about when I'm up
there, right? But occasionally I want to talk
about, you know, the flag, like you want a flag in every
classroom. That's great.
I think that's a great idea to have the American flag in every
classroom. But I think when you start
really digging into why the flagpolicy is getting highlighted,
it's not just to put the flag inevery classroom, right?
Like that's already a thing. What it is, is to reduce any

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other noise around it, right? And when you, when you have that
perspective, that needs to be a very well thought out argument.
How, how you say that because assoon as you start restricting
anything, your whole stance on freedom changes, right?
Like as soon as we put restrictions in place for
anything, that's the opposite offreedom, right?
So when you say we need to pass this policy because patriotism

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and the Constitution and you know, if you're really a
patriot, you support this. I sit here and go, you're Lance
Corporal, that's you're the Lance Corporal.
You're you didn't finish. And this is what why he got
pissed off. I said I'm not going to be
lectured about what sacrifice and patriotism is by somebody
who didn't finish their own service commitment.
Like don't do that because for whatever reason you didn't

(47:55):
finish. And you could absolutely share
yours. Like I shared mine, right?
You don't share it though, right?
Because that's your, that's yourown prerogative.
I'm not going to try to like bully you into sharing your
shit, Right? But don't sit there and tell me
I'm more of a patriot than you. I see.
Right. And I'm sitting here like, bro,
you didn't finish one enlistment.
I finished five. Yeah, don't, don't do that.
Like, let's not go there, right.And he got pissed off and, like

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half of his, like, board comments were David Sola needs
to get over the election loss. He's disgraceful to the Marine
Corps. Yeah.
He's like, he's a disgrace to the Marine Corps.
Or he or he just what do you say?
Dishonor. He said he dishonored the Marine
Corps. Like, I've been behind, but in
the school. I know.
I know. And This is why I'm telling you,
like, go back and watch it because this last one.
Oh, yeah. Well, here's the thing, right
when I went to and I wouldn't have even said any of that shit,

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but I went up to give a comment about parental notification and
about doing shit right and aboutlike just the same shit that I
always try to go up there and try and speak some reason to
them, right. So I, I'm convinced at this
point that I could go in there and go, I want everybody to know
that the sky outside is blue andit is blue and it will always be
blue. And as soon as Jen and Joe go up
there, they're going to go. The sky is red, and I promise

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you, I promise you that Mister Sola doesn't know what he's
talking about. Right.
Like even if I'm talking about real funding shit closing.
Comments we're kind of like trying to discard.
Oh bro, he came right back at meand I so here's the thing.
I just walk out right? Like after when him when it's
his turn to talk, I just get up and leave, right?
Like I'm not going to sit in there and and like allow myself
to listen to your bullshit, right?
So, but the point is this, I know that that he's upset that I

(49:26):
that I called that out, that I said you didn't finish your
service commitment and some people might look I.
Didn't even know that. I didn't even know that that was
the case for him. Well, there's, there's, there's
some ideas out there about what happened, right?
But I don't know but. How?
Like how did you find out about that?
About that, he didn't finish, Yeah.
Yeah, like public knowledge. I think so.
So they're they're again, I can't confirm any of the the

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stuff because he won't share anyof it.
I see. Yeah, right.
So, like, if if you really want to pretend that you are the
page, show me, bro. You're the patriot, right?
Yeah. So like, show me.
If you're not going to show me, then do me a favor and do
everybody a favor. I see.
Shut the fuck up. Yeah, like, otherwise just argue
on the merits of your argument. Stop trying to use the flag as
your validator for all of your arguments.

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Yeah, because I'm, I don't come up there waving around a flag
like you should listen to me because fucking I'm a Yankee
Doodle Dandy or whatever the fuck.
Like I'm not going to do that shit.
That shit doesn't. That doesn't work.
Like, you know, you have to havereal, real solutions.
You can't just sit there and go,I mean, even on the Mailer that,
you know, the five of them or four of them or whatever, you
know, they put out that we are the veterans you need to you

(50:31):
need to vote for, right? And I'm sitting here like the
five of you together didn't match my career.
Yeah, right. And I'm not sitting there trying
to like, it's not a Dick measuring contest, right.
But you put on your on your likelittle note next to Joe's name
was 100% veteran. What the fuck does that mean?
What does that even mean? Oh dude, I got it on.
I got it right here like 100%. What does that mean?

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Is there such thing as a 70% veteran?
Right. Like what?
What are you even fucking talking about, bro?
Like so so then you want to see you got lost in transit.
Yeah right. But you.
Mean 100% service. Connect.
Yeah, you can. I mean you can.
But even that though, even that though, like what?
What is a 100% veteran? And like you signed off on that
you shouldn't. And I mean, I'm not like in a

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nitpick about what material theyput out or don't put out, right?
But like, if you're going to sithere and claim to be something,
then you need to be above reproach.
You know, this being that you were at the corporate course in
the staff and CEO Academy. You know this if you inspect 27
Marines. What just happened to you?
I was inspecting. You would just inspect it 27
fucking times, right? So, yeah, see, that's, that's an
easy one, right? Yeah.
They act like they can be the ones to call out all this shit

(51:35):
about other people, but nobody can say anything right about
them. And I'm not even just talking
about Joe. Yeah, right.
I'm talking about anybody that sits up there.
You have to have a little bit ofnarcissism to be putting your
name out there anyway, right, 'cause you're gonna get those
dopamine hits too, right? When people.
Support you, right? No, no, it's true though it.
Is you have to have a little. Bit of see it because sometimes
these people get elected and then it's like there's like a
change. There's like a shit.

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And I'm not even like, I'll givea perfect example.
Like I'm not throwing shade at anybody specifically in
Temecula. Like for example, I listened to
Theo Von's podcast this past weekend.
He had JD Vance on and I was very disappointed.
I was like, oh. This is like kind of whack.
He's like. Dancing around the questions and
shit and like, dude, you were much more down to earth and

(52:19):
seemed much more transparent when you went on the podcast
before you got elected. Now you're in the seat and it's
like you're being a little bit. Yeah, it's like, right.
Like are you positioning yourself for four years already?
Bro, you just got in there. Like give, give us the real
deal. You know what I mean?
So it's just, it's just interesting how how that
happens, how that works. Yeah.
And by the way, the, the quote, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It was. It is Nietzsche.
I'm a beast, bro. If you gaze long enough into an
abyss, the abyss gazes also intoyou.
So it's a philosophical idea often interpreted as a warning
about the dangers of confrontingthe darker aspects of existence
both within oneself and in the world.
So like, yeah, it's basically like you become the monster that

(53:02):
you're fighting. Yeah.
It's hard to man 'cause you can't, like you can't ignore
some of that shit, but if you allow it to consume you and that
becomes like now your entire platform is darkness and like,
you know how much more energy ittakes to to hang on to hate than
it does love. Yeah, You know what?
I'm. Saying no it's it's true bro and
like it, I think it comes with that negative energy is no good

(53:24):
bro. Like if you're constantly
bashing shit, you're constantly complaining, you're constantly
it's like, dude, stop. Yeah, it's I don't see.
And some people live like that. Bro, that that's the thing.
So if I have any issues with with the left, that is my
biggest issue, that you spend somuch time being upset about

(53:46):
everything that it's like, you ever know how notice how as a
parent, you, you can't get mad at everything because if you get
mad at everything, when you actually get mad, it doesn't
weigh anything. Yeah, there's no, there's no
weight behind it. So you have to be very measured
about what you actually get upset about.
Yeah, if I'm always yelling thenmy kids.
Like, yeah, that's just him. He just fucking yells all the
time, right? Yeah, yeah.

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Nobody's gonna, nobody's gonna take that seriously.
And, and sometimes I sit there and I go, man, I cannot continue
listening to this shit. Like, because I get some of it
is is real. Like, damn, that fucking sucks,
right? Like, that sucks, but is it
really doomsday? No, it's not fucking doomsday.
Like every single time there's another, it doesn't matter if
you're left or right, every single time there's a left

(54:28):
president and you're on the right side or there's a right
president and you're on the leftside, it's fucking doomsday.
It's Oh my God, this is the fucking worst.
Yeah. We're not going to have a
country in two years. And like, people have entire
platforms on that. And I'm sitting here like,
that's fucking exhausting, man. That's so exhausting.
That's my biggest problem with, with, you know, people on the
left. But I will say that people on

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the right are the same way. Like there are people that are
just like, yeah, sure, we're fucking lucky that Joe Biden
didn't decide to run again because we're about to lose our
country. And I sit here and I go, you
know that for a fact. You, you know that for you know
how fucking hard it is for this country to to not exist anymore.
You know how hard that is? But also I don't think it's
unrealistic. And it's not that it's not
unrealistic. I'm.

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I'm saying that when when you say it all the time.
Yeah, I, I can't even measure itanymore.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like I have no fucking idea how
serious that could be because you say it.
All the flume and time, yeah, just do them.
And you take and you take away from the impact of it.
Like what you were saying, like yelling at your kids or like
like the left. I think the left is worse at it
than the right, where everybody's racist, everybody's

(55:31):
a Nazi now. It's like bro, you're taking
away from that word. You know, you know.
Christian nationalism. It's like bro.
I think it's tough though, because like in certain
situations, right? Like so I I know you heard when
I went on another podcast, whichwe won't name drop.
Oh, that's all right. I like those.
I like those. No.
No, no, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.
You know, when I went on anotherpodcast and I pushed back and

(55:52):
said, hey man, don't use that word racist right to describe.
I would not use that word to describe Djokomroski, right?
That that words mean things. And until I know for a fact that
that's factual, I would never, Iwould never throw that out there
because that's heavy. That's that's one of the
heaviest words you could call somebody, right?
I mean, so, but the problem is that when they, they, the

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actions that they take don't dispel that.
Remember when you said, when somebody says something about
you, you should fucking say something back like to dispel
that shit, right? Don't let it sit.
Don't let it. Sit.
Yeah, you can't let your opponent define.
You define you, right? So, So what happened on the last
board meeting too, is that they had a, there was a consent item
to to approve some vendors, right?

(56:36):
One of the vendors that they didn't want to approve was the
Islamic network, right? And then, you know, this is
they, they, apparently the fact that the Islamic network was
hosting a forum of three different religions, right, for
the IB course for the International Baccalaureate
students, right? Apparently that rubbed, you
know, the, the Hindu population in, in, in the area the wrong

(56:57):
way because they don't want someone.
And, and I do understand that, like if, if it's really about,
no one should teach about Hinduism that isn't a Hindu.
But I, I, I tend to want to pushback on that a little bit,
right? Because you don't need to be a
Christian to teach about Christianity.
You don't. You don't.
I'm not trying to convert you. That's not the purpose of the
course, right? The purpose of the course is to
inform you that this is a different religion.

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Here are some of their beliefs, right?
We're not trying to convert people.
That's not what the purpose of the forum was, but the problem.
And we asked what is the problemwith with that?
That vendor, Well, it has the name Islamic in it.
That's dangerous, dude. When you say I don't like them
because of a name, that's not dispelling the, the fact that
you are being accused of having some prejudicial position on

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that vendor, right? So I'm not sitting here saying,
oh, you know, it's 100% they're racist.
That's, that's, that's what theyare.
But when we ask why, because Emil asked them why, why don't
you want them to? Here's the other thing.
They threw up their, you know, oh, this is a horrible forum.
You know, the Islamic network, it's terrible.
Is this the reason board meetingor this?
No, this there was another, there was a one further back,

(58:04):
but then the most recent 1 is where they voted it down right?
So the one further back, they said, you know, the form is
going to take place On this date.
It was a Tuesday. Joe didn't have work.
He doesn't work on Tuesdays, right?
He didn't go. Jen voted it down.
She didn't go. You know who went to the dam
forum? Emil and Steve.
So when you sit there and you want to attack something and
then you don't even put in the work to go to show up and find

(58:26):
out what it's about. And then when they ask you,
because Emil said why, why are you voting it down?
That was such a great experiencefor the students.
You know, I thought it was very well controlled.
It was very well taught, you know, because they showed up.
You know what Jen says or or Jenand Joe both.
I'm not going to talk about why I don't want it.
I just don't want it. What does that sound like,
though? Yeah, right.
You know what I'm saying? And and even if you're not

(58:46):
racist, you have to realize thatwhen you don't provide context
to your position. Yeah, it's easy to define.
It's easy. Right.
And then they can define you that way.
So I'm sitting here going, we just turned down a vendor
because the name is Lamic is in it.
Yeah, that is wild, right. Like Can you imagine if we
turned on a vendor because it's called Christian something.
Yeah. Which, yeah.
That, that it wouldn't be fair either.

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Right, Right, right. Especially if you go.
I'm not going to talk about why.It's just because it's it.
I don't like it.