PBT, Episode 54; Tell Us How You Really Feel (part 2), ft. David Sola

My continued conversation with Mr. Sola.

Episode Transcript

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All right, guys, this is Part 2 from the previous episode.
Officially episode 54. Once again, some of the stuff in
here is outdated because we did record this a month ago.
I'm recording a new episode tomorrow and it'll drop next
week, so we will be all caught up.
Back to weekly content. Yeah.

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Enjoy. David Sola Part 2.
You ever wonder what is the truth?
Three things cannot be long headed.
The sun, The moon. And the truth.

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Yeah, and, and, you know, it's interesting because I, I want to
go back to something you were talking about earlier.
You just reminded me exactly what we're talking about is
like, if you leave room for interpretation, then the
interpretation you don't want will will take precedence, you
know? That's why you gotta be clear.
And and I think what happened toyou with that Mailer is

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unfortunate, but what didn't help you out, dude, to be honest
with you, was that that fucking interview that you did like.
And I know, I know how those I know how I'm talking about the
news interview. Yeah, yeah, the like 12 seconds
of. Yeah, dude.
And I know, I know how. Those met with her for an hour
and I got 12 seconds. On TV.
Hey brother, I've done like through the whole thing with the

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school board. I've done a bunch of news
interviews. Let me tell you something.
They they interviewed me about a, they interviewed me about
like the trans ideology and stuff like that.
They never put my interview out.I never, they never put my
interview. And it's like, again, like I'm

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very good on the mic, dude. I've been podcasting for a long
time. I did MMA commentary.
With MMA commentary, you got to talk about what's going on and
let things change. Yeah, you know, and you can't
slip up. So it's like, I'm good.
I know my, my, when I it's funny, but when I was young I
used to freestyle and shit. So like my brain works in a way
where I Oh yeah, I put my sentences together as I'm

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saying, and I'm very cautious a lot of the.
Time. It's fluid.
Yeah, Yeah, I got you. So it's just interesting because
I know how those interviews go, where they ask you a question
and then they'll only use the things that they want to use to
paint you a certain way. And it seems like that news
interview, the way they portrayed you there, it was

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almost like they wanted. He's a lefty.
He's. Like, well, this is what they
had to do, right? Because you have to show the
extremes. Because if you show somebody
that's rational, right? Nobody's going to watch it.
Nobody's going to watch it if you say there's this
controversial board member and here's a parent and a parent is
super pro and. Also, I don't even know if
that's true anymore. And I agree with you.
I think that that is the the approach.

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I think that is the general understanding.
But This is why for podcasts aregetting so big is because people
want genuine Yeah, people want to get.
Because I mean, it's uncut, right?
It's uncut. It's like, and I think that one
of my, you know, and I probably have a ton of like not great
traits, but I think that one of my good ones is that I try not

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to like sit there and think too much about what I'm going to
say. I try and just tell you what I
actually feel right, because it's easier for me to do that.
Not only that, but if I tell youwhat I feel, because it's
genuine and I'm not lying, I don't have to fucking worry
about repeating it or, or recalling whatever I said,
right, Because I know that I told you what I felt right like.

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So with that interview though, Imean, that was interesting
because I, you know, I, I do feel like there's, there is a
pretty deliberate targeting of those, you know, the, the kids
that are in that community. And people can say that they,
they don't believe that. But when you look at the
evidence, man, like there's so much like if you really don't
hate them or you really don't want to like dilute them or like

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hurt them, then why do you put so much effort into dismissing
them, right? Like it's like, you know how
imagine back in the day, right, Like you go to Connecticut,
right? All right, So back in the day,
if somebody in your neighborhood, right, was a pain
in the ass and you're just like,man, I ain't got time for that
fucking dude, right? You're never going to talk about
him, right? But if you, if somebody's being

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a pain in the ass back where youcome from and you're like, I
fucking hate that guy. I this, I that, but he's
nothing. Nobody's going to believe you.
But you're spending all this time talking about them all the
time. You talk about them all the
time. How do you how, what do you mean
you don't care? You fucking talk about them all
the time. And I mean, you know, I talk
about this with a lot of people too, like.
Oh, I'm sure you do. Yeah, All right.

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You, you know where I'm going, right?
OK. So like, I'm like, why, why, why
do you spend so much effort, time and energy into somebody
you don't care about? Just stop it.
Just stop it because you're, I'mnot buying it, right?
And that's how I feel about like, you know, the LGBT
community, like these kids, regardless of of how you feel
about like the ethical and moralissues there, right?

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Like that's your own personal feeling, right?
But stop because they're just kids.
They're just kids, man. Like don't and and don't sit
there and say, you know, we support you while also every
single effort that you have put in to where you are even talking
about them is negative. Yeah, it's negative.
Right. So like, I mean, and, and what

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that interview should have showed was look, I and 'cause
they, they tried to get me to talk bad about Joe during the I
mean, and I'll be straight up like I was like.
So what's it like They're like competing against Christian
Ashley? Oh, yeah, yeah, no shit, right.
Like that's that's what the question.
And you don't you don't see those questions right.
When when they so, so I'm sitting there going, I don't
think that's accurate, right. Like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not

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going into these, like to these further steps that they're
doing. And they're just like, well,
that's, it's not fucking interesting.
So I'm just going to skip that part, right?
And, and, and stick to this. And I mean, but, but like, to be
fair though, man, I, I really dofeel like there's a deliberate
effort to just like make these kids go away.
And I'm sorry to say it, but they're not going to just
disappear. Yeah, they're not going to
disappear. This is, this is a serious like

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situation right now where they're feeling, you know, and,
and here's the thing that I've told you from day one, I always
worry about the pendulum swinging, right?
That's, that's always been my thing, right?
Like if you pull too hard in OneDirection, eventually it pulls.
Back. Into the and it's and it's
worse, right? So when when you put somebody
and you continue to threaten their existence, what do you

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think eventually happens? Something tragic, right?
Something bad eventually happenswhen you threaten someone's
existence. Yeah, they they eventually get
to the point where I can't take this shit anymore.
I think here's the here's the thing where I struggle with that
position though, is a lot of it is super inflated, almost
overinflated. Like when people are like, oh,
you're trying to deny our existence.
You want us like bro there are people in the LG community that

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think conservatives want them dead bro 99.9% of conservatives
do not subscribe to that. If you're a millennial or
younger, like we're accepting dog, you know what I mean?
Like, I don't care if you're gayor trans, you know, I was
pretty. Just leave me alone.
Yeah, right, right, right. Like don't like, don't fuck with
my, my kids, my family, don't, don't impede on like the morals

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and values I'm trying to instill.
As long as you don't cross that boundary with me.
That's straight, you know, and Ithink that that's a lot.
Of. Yeah, yeah, 'cause I like This
is why I chose to be a libertarian politically is
because the libertarian view is like, if somebody's not forcing
their will on you, then they should be able to do what the
fuck they want. But I think we're now when it

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comes to this conversation, thistopic without, we're now
starting to push more where it'slike, oh, you're Christian views
don't matter because these people are victims and they need
to be prioritized. And I don't I don't subscribe.
To that either, you know, I don't subscribe to that either
because I think that whatever your beliefs are, right, so long
as they're not like propagating hate, right?

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I think that we should find way to tolerate whatever those
beliefs are, right? I'm not, I'm not saying that we
need to like exercise or amplifythem, but we should be able to
tolerate it, right? Whatever you believe, we should
be able to tolerate it. I think that the issue that I
have is when you say that, you know, they think that
conservatives are trying to comeafter them.
They're Danny. I got to be honest, man, there
sure is a lot of evidence showing that there's no

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compassion for these kids. Yeah, that that's fair.
And I think, and I think that it's it may not even have to be
that we don't want you to exist.But you know, as a couple of
examples, like when you look at this last board meeting, Joe
said another thing that really caught me off.
He said we need to be the final arbiters of morals for the
community. He said that was Joe's quote.

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You can go back and look at it. He said we, we up here need to
be the final arbiters of morals for the community.
What does that sound like to me as a parent?
That sounds like you want to tell my kids what to do.
Yeah, you like? He want he wants to be about
parents. Right.
He wants to be the decision maker for you, for your kids.
Right. And I'm sitting here going, I
appreciate that, that the community voted and and listen,
the democratic process is what it is.

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I can't sit here and get upset because I lost.
That's democracy, bro. Like literally spent my whole
adult life making sure that democracy had a place in this
world, right? Yeah.
So when you sit there and you say we need to be the final
arbiters so you get to decide what's moral and what's not
moral, right for everybody in the community, that's wrong.
That's communism, bro. You can't tell people how to
think. To add to what you're saying is

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like recently when Sonia Shaw went to that track event and
shit and then there was those videos that went out.
Like I get it bro. I actually believe that like,
look, man, there's a lot of laws.
There's a lot of laws in American history.
You're. Going to make me go here, right?
That word, That word. We're going to go here right
now. I know where we're going.
There's a lot of laws in American history that were

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immoral and it was the law, but that didn't make it fucking
right. Jim Crow was not right.
You know what I mean? And like, but you go in the
South, it's like, well, that's the law followed.
Well, it's not it's it's not right, bro.
Like we, we have. To change it.
Yeah, we we have to be able to make the discussion.
So when it comes to like the lawin California with girls
computing and boys sports, it's my job.
Doug, let me tell you something.She she plays flag football.

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She plays play sports. If there is a biological boy
that she's playing against, I'm going to be in the crowd looking
for the parents. So.
I got you and I want to talk to I want to talk to the parents.
I want to approach them and be like, yo, why not let your trans
daughter play with the boys? Why not like and again?

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And I understand like. God, so I feel you.
I if you watch the last board meeting, that was my, my one of
my final comments. I said, I want to start off by
saying I do not believe that biological boys should be
competing against biological girls in sports.
I want to be clear about that because I know that during the
campaign there were a lot of people that wondered about what
that position. Was but real quick.
I just want to I just want to finish my point was like I agree

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with with that. Where they lost me was like,
man, it's like what you said is like this is still a kid.
This is still a kid and the kid is just trying to compete in in
his or her sport. Bro.
It's like, go ahead and do what you got to do, but it shouldn't
impact the kid. The kid shouldn't be trying to

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compete and then worrying about the crowd, you know, telling him
that like you don't fucking belong here.
It's like that's a kid and it's not kill the.
Fuck. Exactly.
And here's the other thing. It's not even just that kid, the
other kids that are there now have to deal with you doing that
shit to cause a scene, right? Because it's all about trying to
make noise and and you know, it's, it's about the Instagram

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likes and getting people riled up.
But here's the thing, man, I, I already told you what I think
that the solution is for, for transgender competition in
sports. I said the honest way that this
needs to happen. Nobody's going to like, and
there's no funding for the honest way that this needs to
happen is because if at the coreof this, an advantage,
regardless of if it's the fault of the child or not, is still an

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advantage. That's really what the core of
this argument is. That's and that's unfair to a
child that has done everything that they should, right?
You know, they talk about the girls being, you know, at a
disadvantage. Yeah, it's true.
If you did all these things thatyou should have done to get to
where you're at, and you think that you're going to be able to
compete at the same level as someone who has an advantage
over you, regardless of what theadvantage is, that's just that's

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just not true, man. It's not possible, right?
It's the reason why in the Marine Corps, our PFT, these are
not the same, right? The points are the same, right?
Exactly. Yeah, exactly.
And and, and I think This is whywe align here is because we come
from a world where it was understood like, yeah, bro,
equality and we're the same, butwe're not.
Yeah, you know, and, and it was under 2.
Things and and you know what we respect that there's those

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differences. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah. So, So what I'm, what I was
getting at is what, what this really needs to look like in the
future, especially as this is now, we're not going to be able
to avoid or sidestep this, right?
There needs to be if you were a biological boy, you're born a
biological boy and you're representing as a or presenting
as a biological boy. That is 1 leak girl girl,

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another league, boy girl anotherleague, girl boy another league.
There needs to be 4. To be honest, it shouldn't be
two, it should be 4. The problem is you're not going
to get a lot of popularity for that because because.
So you're saying not just not just a boys girls sports and not
just a boys girls trans sports, but full equality on the

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spectrum of biology? Yes, of like, yeah, yeah.
Equality from from where you started, right?
Like and where you're at. Yeah, because and, and, and that
is the best way to fix it, bro, because you're you're, you're
you're dealing with that. It's like where you started
biologically. But also we're acknowledging how
you want to represent. Yeah.

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And we're and we're, we're trying to support exactly.
We're trying to support how you identify.
We're trying to support how you identify because we realize that
that is, that is a difficult thing for you, right?
But also we want you to understand that there are still
advantages that you have, right?If you're, if you were, if you
were born a male and now you arepresenting as female, like
that's, that's something that isdifficult for you.

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And we don't want to make it more difficult, but we also
don't want to make it unfair to the other young lady.
And that's it. But I said I know how much work
I put in with my daughter. Dude, we wake up early, we do
ladder drills, we go out there, we work on her form and her
throwing when when she played softball, we'd hit hundreds of
balls into the net. We put work in for her to be
great. That's a lot of pressure on you.

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By the way, just so you know, when you start this next season
coming up, I just want you to know that you got it now you got
to crush it 'cause if you don't,that's going to look bad.
No, no, no, no. I'm just kidding, no?
No, but let me tell you something dude, she's like she's
like she's better athlete than Iever was or could be like she
under pressure. She does not fold bro.
She locks in and executes. It's fucking.

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Crazy, you know, that Californiahas tried to put in and like I'm
not like subscribing to their solution to this, right?
But they're like, well, you know, we're going to change the
way that the podium is. And yes, if you became in 2nd
and you know, there was, you know, a trans, the girl that
that one ahead of you, you stillget celebrated as, you know, the
winner or whatever. I I understand what you're

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trying to do California. But what I'm telling you is when
you are standing up there, it isnot the same.
It does not feel the same. You could tell me all day long
that I won, right? Like, that's that kid that, you
know, didn't get a lot of burn on on the starting lineup,
right? But then their parents are like,
you're so good. You did.
You did so good. Right, like and I'm sitting here

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like, that's great. I appreciate that you love your
kid and you're supporting your kid, but it.
Let me put it like this, when I was a kid and I fucked up and my
mom was trying to pat me on the back, I none of it worked in my
mind. In my mind, I'm like, I sucked,
I fucked us. I'm the reason why we lost.
I missed that tackle or I missedthat.
You know what I mean? So yeah, yeah.
But you're right. It's like, in theory, it's a

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good idea. Yeah, in theory it's a good
idea, but if you're experiencingit, Yeah.
Yeah, if you're experiencing it,I don't think that that's right,
man. Like, I and and, you know, this
is probably the first time that I'm actually speaking to this,
like on the record anywhere. Yeah.
But I mean, it's really how I feel.
I mean, I told you this back back when we first started, you
know, connecting like, I, I I don't subscribe to this.
I do think, though, that we needto really take a step back and

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look at that's still a child. Like, what the fuck are you
doing sitting there yelling at achild?
Yeah, right. Like, and then you want to sit
there and go, yeah, back me up on this.
You got, you know, Jen's like talking about federal government
should take all of our funding, our federal funding.
You know, like Jen, you're voting against us funding
ourselves locally. You want that?

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You want the federal government to take funding back because you
don't support trans athletes. Like, what do you think this
eventually results in, right. If you got more going out than
coming in, we're, we're not going to be in a good place.
And that's all I've been trying to say up there.
But because you know, I, I, theyjust, I ran against Joe.
That's literally the only reasonwhy they won't talk to me,
right? I'm a fucking demon.

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I'm terrible. I'm I'm a.
Well, I mean you, you, you know,there were, there were some
words exchanged with you and hiswife.
And I think it's a little. Deeper.
Oh, well, yeah, OK. Yeah.
I mean, we can we can talk aboutthat really quick, man, if we.
Want I mean, I mean, I'm not even trying.
I'm not trying to No, no, no, nosaying that.
I think that that that plays a role.
That plays a role, dog. Yeah, sure, sure.
But The thing is this, I didn't say anything disrespectful to
his wife. Well, at the end of the day.

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And and and and. I said stop lying about me
please. I like.
Is that like and again? And I don't want it to seem like
I'm defending Joe or attacking you, but I think that that's
subjective. You know what I mean?
Yeah, I think that how how you meant it, she might not have
taken it that way. And a good husband will only
side with how his wife took. That's tight, but come talk to
me then. Yeah, not your, your, your,

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your. Your husband, that's going to
defend your wife, right? Yeah.
Then come. Because I tell you, if you say
some sideways shit to my wife, I'm I'm gonna find out what
that's about. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
I'm gonna come find out what that's about.
But if you go, I'm just gonna ghost this guy.
I'm sorry, but if if you say something to if I.
If you really think that I said something to your wife that's
worthy of you dismissing me. Yeah, but it's not even that.

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Because when you see me in public, you shake my hand.
Mr. Sola. Good to see you.
Yeah. Whatever it is.
Like stop the clown shit. Yeah.
Like if you really don't like me, say it with your chest,
Right. Bring that energy.
Right. Yeah, because.
No, no, that's fair. That's like I, I, I respect
that. I, like I, I told, understand
where you're coming from. I'm just saying that like it is,
I think between you and Joe, it's deeper than like you guys

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just ran against each other, youknow, I think.
You know, I, I, I would love to think that it was.
But again, I don't know, 'cause I only know what I know.
You feel me? I don't, I don't really talk to
you about Joe and I don't talk to Joe about you.
I just know what I know. And I know that like when, when
you seceded from the race, like you reached out to me and I was
like, hey, can I, I reached out to him like, can I give him your
number? He wants, you know, so like

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that, you know, that's the extent of my involvement.
I know, but like you, I think you, you knew at that point
though, that I was trying to do the right thing.
No, totally, totally. Like I'm, I'm trying to move on.
And then the the thing that he doesn't realize is that do you
know what this community was ready to do until some voices
came up and said, stop the talk about another recall.
Stop it. Oh yeah, yeah.
Yeah, knock it off. That's we're, we're beyond that.

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We had our shot, we lost, we move on, right?
And now if I reach out to you and I go, I'm ready to move on.
I want to make sure that we support you any way I can.
I gave a couple of interviews toa couple of different news
agencies saying the exact same thing.
I wish them the best. I'm just going to still keep
being involved like I should be,and I'm here to support them any
way I can. And what that turned into was,

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no, you ran against me. So now I'm just going to fucking
ignore everything you say like and it's cool man, ignore me if
you want to ignore me, but ignore me because you disagree
with me, not because like the shit that you did like you just
can't stomach and. You just can't maybe I maybe I
and again, everything that I said defending him or making a
point like that's, that's only the minimum of what I know, you
know what I mean? So maybe I spoke at a turn.

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OK, I'm just, I'm just, I'm justassuming that there's more to
it. But and, and, and your your
position is totally right too. I don't know.
I don't know if I mean, hopefully that's something and
then that can be sorted out between you guys.
Well, I sent him, I sent him an e-mail just saying I hey, you
know, with with where we're at financially, I just want to know
what the benefit is of this tripthat y'all are taking to DC.
Yeah, you know, like, what are you going to try to accomplish?

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And Jen, I'll give her, you know, kudos because she actually
came to talk to me after the meeting and was like, hey, I
just want you to know we are going to do this.
We are going to do that. They didn't, They never sent me
shit. I never got anything from them
about what they did in DC, what they were trying to do, because
I said don't take. Like, you know, the money that
you're about to spend going to DC, it could be used on the
girls flag football teams. Don't spend that $12,000 to go

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to DC and you can use it for them and they could use it
right. Here's here's my frustration
with that argument, though, because I have heard that
argument, not just for the DC thing, for a lot of things.
It's like we know that the way funding works is very specific.
You know what I mean? I I think that I think that
that's a loaded. That's a loaded.
Argument yeah, it's I get what you're saying.
In some cases, yes, it is, right.

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It's like, but I watched them doat this last board meeting, they
moved money like Emil did it where there was like they're
doing their renewal for CSBA, right?
And they're there's they're basically their annual dues or
whatever it is, right. And then there was another line
item in there that was for a lobbying group for them to like
renew their subscription or whatever the fuck it was.
It was like $5000. And Emil goes, why the fuck do
we need this? He's like, I want that to go off

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and I want it to go to girl sports.
They did it in the meeting. They took it off and moved it
to. And so when when people say you
can't actually move it, yes, youcan.
If you really had a consensus, you could do it.
If all five of them said, we want this funding to go from
this to that, they could do that, right.
But instead it's like, we want to go to DC.
Why? And you know why?
It's a field trip. We want the, we want the photo

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OPS. Yeah, yeah, we want the photo
OPS. But like, I mean, I've been to
DCI love DC, right? I I love, you know, seeing our
history and and and. There's a lot to do out there.
There there's a lot to do I, I, I know, but when you go for a
specific purpose, bro, yeah, yougo for specific purpose and you
spend your whole time being a tourist like.
I mean, and and I get that, likehere's The thing is, it's

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important for the context is important is we can't forget
that they didn't just go to DC to like do a trip to DC.
It was like a whole entire thingfor school board members.
Right, yes, but, but there was alot of people that were there,
right. That will tell you that they did
not participate in a lot of the things that were on the agenda.

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Yeah, You see, So I, I, I. Hate when those, I hate when
those, he said, she said. Stories start.
You know what I mean? It's like, well, here's the
thing, I didn't, I didn't just take that at face value.
I asked them what, what did you actually do?
Because I'm, I'm curious to knowwhat we spent $12,000 on.
Yeah, right. To go to DC.
Because that's how much it was. Yeah, first, like it was like 12
grand, right? So.
And here's the other thing. When I bring that up in the

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meeting, you know what Joe does?Dismisses it.
It's a drop in the bucket. But don't worry about what we
did in DC. Like, you can't sit there and
pretend to be holier than thou. Yeah, right.
And then when someone challengesyou on something, you, you try
and brush them off. Yeah.
Like, you see. And that's the question, bro.
And that's another thing that I think I'm flawed on.
I I, I, I do feel like I'm, I'llprobably over the past four or

(22:48):
five months, I haven't been really tracking the school board
like I used to, right? Part of it is like just my
frustration with it all and justhow ugly and like just personal
things I. Actually wanna, I actually wanna
know like your perspective on that, right?
Because I, I've been there through through a lot of this
stuff and I and I, again, I won't try to defend one person

(23:09):
over the other, right? I don't know what's going on
behind closed doors, right. But what I will say is that
there's a there's a lot of people that are there's a lot of
people that are contributing to this negative, you know,
relationship that's going on up there.
But also I don't know if you know this, there's an
investigation going around rightnow that was just completed that
was released by by the district.Jen accused Steve Schwarz of,

(23:31):
you know about that, right? OK.
And they released the findings of that.
Do you know what the findings said?
Man, have you had a chance to look at it at?
All someone sent it to me. I haven't looked at everything
dude, but there was like I. Don't want to.
I don't want to think for you. Well, somebody sent me the.
They sent me a. Highlighted portion that was
basically saying that Jen's perspective was very

(23:54):
inconsistent and. There's a couple things in
there. I mean, I won't.
Yeah, I know. I don't want to do it for you.
Should Yeah, no, no, that's fine.
But it's. But I mean, if we're going to
touch on it, talk about what yougot from.
It so OK, here's here's what I got from it and I think this is
kind of this is kind of I I feelfor any woman who experiences

(24:14):
any type of sexual harassment. I want to say that I was AI was
a uniform victim advocate. You know what that is in the
Marine Corps, right? It's the person that that shows
up immediately once a woman experiences sexual assault,
right, And and you kind of help her through, you know, the
process, the. Process of filing the complaint.
The complaint? And resources, right.
So I, I did that for I did that for a few years and it was the

(24:36):
most eye opening like B Billett,kind of like, you know, side,
you know, collateral duty that Ihad and.
It's better than being the piss test guy.
Yeah. I mean, I mean, yeah, no.
I'm. Just I'm just actually, I would
rather do that. I would rather do that if I'm
being honest. That's hilarious.
But but in all, in all seriousness, man.

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So when when a woman makes an accusation like that, regardless
of whether or not I like Steve, the first thing in my mind is,
Oh my God, I hope that didn't happen, right?
Like, I really hope that didn't happen.
And when the investigation starts, there's a couple things
that I try to take note of in that process, right?
Like who is participating in theinvestigation?
Who is really trying not to helpthe investigation?

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And then also, you know what, what are the findings?
What's what's found at the end of the day, right?
And when I looked at the fact finding, I tried not to just
look at the executive summary because that's someone's like
opinion of what happened. I tried to look just at the
facts and to me, the facts show two things above everything
else. One that there's not enough

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evidence that Steve did that, right?
That's the first, that's the first part.
I'm not going to sit here and say he did it or didn't do it.
I don't know. I wasn't, I wasn't even there,
right? But I will say that that
evidence and what that what thatreport shows is that there's not
enough evidence to to prove thathe said that right.
Then the second part was Jen wasnot was not consistent.
That was that was one part of it, but it also came to the

(26:03):
conclusion that she was not genuine in her complaint.
So to me, that's damning. That's really damaging, right?
Because now, like it's I'm not saying it's a boy who cried
wolf, right? But like, I want to believe you
every time you say something. If you're up there, every time
you say something, if you're a member of the school board and
you were an elected official, I want to believe that everything
you say is true. And when when a report and

(26:25):
investigation comes out and saysyou're not credible, that sucks,
man. I will say this, I didn't look
at all the findings, but in regards to that, and we've, I
talked about it before briefly when that whole thing first
happened, here's what bothered me about it all.
And to be fair, I'm going to be critical of everybody.

(26:48):
I wish Jen would have looked to resolve this in private.
Yeah, yeah. They tried to tell her though.
Yeah, now when it when it went public, OK, I did not like
Steven Schwartz's response, his response, his reaction, his

(27:14):
demeanor. I was, I was just, I was and I
wasn't in person. I was watching from home and I
was just like, oh, damn. Like his argument.
His argument to me seemed to be no one else heard that.
Not that I never said that, you know, And it's like, so I was

(27:35):
very conflicted. Cause like you, I want to
believe her, dude. And like, also, even though the
findings are the findings, think, OK, think about if she
really did experience that, bro,you know, and it's like even if
even if she experienced what shesays she experienced and the
findings are the findings, if you're somebody who really does

(27:58):
stand on truth, you like you would have the position that she
has. You know, so it's just I think
the part of it and I do get that.
I do. I think that, you know, one
thing is I've never been accusedof something that like like that
serious, right that that, but that's a big deal, Doug.
You know, I'm saying if you do that, though, I don't know what
my reaction would be. So I don't want to absolve
Steve. Of no, no, I mean, but I.

(28:19):
Also have not experienced that so I can't talk to yeah.
But I would never, I mean, I, well, I can't say never.
I've never been put in a position like that.
Yeah, you know. Yeah, yeah, I'm very careful.
You hope that you would react ina in a way that's not going to.
Dude, I wish Steve would have been like hey if that's what you
heard I'm really sorry. Well, I don't think you can do

(28:40):
that either, because if you knowthat, you didn't say it, right?
Like we don't know who's tellingthe truth, right?
And again, we don't know who's telling.
The truth, But all I'm saying islike, I feel like my approach to
it would have been different, especially if I didn't say that.
I'd be like, I did not. I do not remember it the way you
remember it. I would never do anything like
that. And if I made you feel

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uncomfortable, I'm sorry about that.
And and here's the thing I need to do.
If I were going to talk about this shit, I need to be on top
of the meeting. It's a little unfair to like.
Well, it's not not really unfair, but I'm I'm, I'm I'll
equipped to talk about it and I feel like the listeners don't
get the best. Yeah, 'cause they're only gonna
get, they're only gonna get my side of.
It but that's OK. But that's OK.
It's my fault. Like I, I, I mean.

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This, this, that situation didn't have anything to do with
me. I'm just telling you what I
could see as a, as a, you know, as, and anybody can say, yes, I,
I, I do speak with Steve, but I would speak with Jen and Joe if
they actually would speak back with me too.
So it doesn't, it's not that I'mjust like trying to support
Steve. It's like, I don't know what
happened. I wasn't there.
Who am I to say who's telling the truth or who's not right
like that? That's it's just unfortunate

(29:42):
because it's unfortunate. It's an extra obstacle that our
board has to overcome. Another one, right?
Yeah, yeah. And, and this is the thing that
I'm still trying to like, like, understand myself, man.
Like, and, and I, I've said thisa couple times to a few people,
but it was three to two chaos, right When Danny was there.
Three to two chaos. 2 to 2, Danny left, chaos. 2 to one in

(30:06):
the opposite direction, right? Still chaos, right.
OK, 4 to 1. And I know that it doesn't
appear to be 4 to 1 to you all anymore, right?
But you got, let me be frank with you, man.
Conservatives got who they wanted.
Yeah. Like at the end of the day,
that's who y'all wanted to be upthere.
Yeah. And it's still.
Chaos, well, you know, and I so I wouldn't, I wouldn't even say

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wanted, I would say preferred. Preferred.
OK. Yeah, yeah, preferred.
Yeah, 'cause I mean, there were a lot of people, I think, I
think there were a lot of conservatives who did not
support e-mail the whole way through.
OK, well, let's look at it this way.
And he knew that. Did you want Garyati on there?
Yeah. No, no, OK, No, did did you?
Obviously you didn't vote for me.
Did you want me on there? No.
Right. So like, like, we can't have our

(30:46):
cake and eat it too, bro. Like that's what you wanted.
That's what you got, 100%. So 100.
So. So for all intents and purposes,
with Steve being the outlier, right, it went 4 to 1 and now
there's still chaos. So the only consistent thing
that I'm going to tell you, and it's not that I'm like, I hate
them or anything like that, but dude, at some point you have to
look and see if you're complicitin the chaos.

(31:08):
Like you can't just completely keep blaming someone else,
Right? Right.
Right. Yeah.
So. I I think that better ownership
needs to be like, dude, you knowthis when you're leading
Marines. OK?
Like a battalion commander is still getting his attitude for
that Pfc that got a DUI. The battalion commander has no

(31:31):
control over that fucking Marine.
He's not going to watch that Marine.
It don't. Matter, you know, and like, and
shit rolls downhill. So in the Marine Corps, we're
taught to take ownership of everything.
Take ownership. Of even if it was the bad, yeah,
the good the bad. How could you have?
How could you have helped avoid this, even if it had nothing,
nothing to do with you? That should always be the

(31:52):
approach of good leaders. And like everybody on that board
is pointing the finger. Yeah.
Everybody So you know, the the thing that I think doesn't help
really is if you look at the report in the report, she says,
I spoke to legal counsel this and they and they told me to do
what I did. And then the, the actual lawyers
doing the investigation interviewed that legal counsel

(32:14):
and he's like, I never fucking said that at all.
So like, that's not like a misunderstanding.
That is 100%. You said something that I did
not say, right? And, and to me, this is
happening way too frequently, right, for it to be by chance,
right? Like if, if you said something

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right now, now I don't know whatI can believe out of you and
what I what's true, what's true and what's false, Because now
you literally said, I spoke to this legal counsel on this day
and this is what they told me todo.
And then you go interview that legal counsel and that legal
counsel says on the record, I never told you that.
Yeah. That means one of you are lying,
right? Yeah.
Do you think that it's a lawyer that's lying, right.

(32:56):
As they're being investigated? Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Right. Right.
Or is it the person that actually is involved as one of
the parties in the dispute? Yeah, Right.
So, I mean, again, I wasn't there, man.
I don't know what the hell happened.
I really hope that didn't. Happen and again, and I don't
want to make it seem like I'm defending Jen, but also I never
trust lawyers. Anything.
Yeah, I mean, I I got that. I got that.
Well, after, after what happenedwith Affi don't blame.

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I mean, right, like after what happened with Affi don't blame
you, right? You know, and I don't want to
get into that part either. But like, look, AFF like you
cannot have the appellate court judge teaching you about who Jim
Crow was in an argument like you're talking about civil
rights. And if you don't aren't able to
articulate that and the appellate judge has to teach you

(33:38):
like, and this is what I why I said like there are ways to get
these policies to progress, right.
There are ways to get these policies to progress.
I don't think they're all dead in the water.
I don't think so. But when you choose the path of
least resistance to try to get your policies through, bro,
you're, you're, you're making a,a really, you're taking a big

(33:58):
risk, right? There's ways to do that.
And This is why, you know, I maynot agree with everything in the
new parental notification policy, right?
But it is more than what was existing before, right?
So I, I, I get that it's not there yet.
I get that right. Here's here's here's my
frustration with all of this. Bro, the next time an elected
official tells me like it's the law, I have to follow the law.

(34:20):
It's like, yeah, you do have to follow the law.
So let's talk about it. Let's talk about how this
discussion as far as biological boys being allowed in girls
locker rooms, let's talk about how the California State law
conflicts with federal law, which is why there's an issue

(34:42):
there. And you can and everybody says
Google it. You can Google it.
If a state law conflicts with federal law, then the state law
is wrong. You're talking about Title 9,
right? Yeah, well, yeah.
Well, just just just just so specifically Title 9 compared to
what California's doing. Sure.
That's so so that's the argument.
If you get, if you get even 10 minutes to just go look back and

(35:04):
try to find my board comment on Title 9.
It's the comment where I said, yeah, I don't support.
Was it this last board, this last meeting, right.
I said, yeah, I don't support that.
But when you're sitting there saying I'm an advocate for a
civil rights law, right, so Title 9 is I'm an advocate for
that, you have to realize that that has already been affirmed
to support transgender children,right?

(35:26):
So or transgender people, not even just transgender children,
right? And that discrimination based
upon transgenderism, it is bias.It is discrimination, right?
And, and it's what basically what I'm getting at is this is
not cut and dry, right? And, and I think that's what
you're getting at too. Like it's not it's.
It's not cut and dry. And it I think you're you're
you're playing this Olay game with me when you're like, well,

(35:49):
it's California law. Yeah, well, California law is
conflicting with federal law. And you swore an oath to the
Constitution of the United States as well.
And also it's like, and again, not not to make them political
or make like make the argument political, but it is.
Political. At this point, it's like, yeah,
you, you voted for Trump, dude, and you are afraid to stand on

(36:12):
what you know is ethically rightbecause out of fear of violating
California law. And it's like, if you're an
elected official and you voted for Trump, now is the time to
fucking stand on your shit now. So here's here's what I'm going
to say. Here's what I'm going to say.
I think, I think I understand what you're getting at.
And tell me if I'm wrong, right?Tell me if I'm, if I'm wrong,
you feel like whatever your caseis going to be that you that you

(36:34):
take to the courts, right? That you take should go to the
point where the highest court tells you no, right?
That's that's what you feel like, right.
OK, So my, my concern with that is that if you're going to do
that, you don't vote in on the first day, OK, right.
You can't because you know why now you're you're shooting from
the hip man. If you go to the 500 yard line,

(36:56):
right? And you don't get that freaking
loop sling in, right? And you don't you don't make
sure that you've got your windage calls, right?
You you don't make sure that like your breathing is under
control. You got your trigger control,
you have all that stuff. Are you going to shoot as soon
as you get into the prone position?
OK, right. I'm gonna I'm, I'm gonna, I'm
going to counter your argument, OK?
And I'm going to say that I likeit.

(37:17):
I agree with you. However, in the case of what
we're discussing, it's more likeTable 2, where I have 15 seconds
and sometimes, fuck yeah, I got to let those rounds.
Down so I didn't know I know what you're getting at.
Yes, I know what you're. Getting at four years.
It's not even that. It's not even that Danny.
I they knew Danny wasn't going to be there the whole time.

(37:37):
Right. Who?
When you say what? What, Joe and Jen, you only had
a certain amount of time to havethe majority.
Yeah. Yeah.
Right. Yeah, Right.
So, so you have to like, force through as much as you can as
quickly as possible. Right.
But what I'm getting at is I don't think that they actually
put in enough work to get the right people making the
arguments because I'm telling you, and again, I'm not a

(37:58):
lawyer, right? I'm just a civilian watching the
arguments, the legal arguments. And if my lawyer an opinion, I
have an opinion, right? But if my lawyer that I think is
supposed to be arguing for me isgetting schooled on civil rights
law by the by the appellate court judge, I'm like, what the
fuck did I just do right by and and instead of them doing that

(38:22):
and going that was a mistake. We need to get this right,
right. Like we still want the argument
to go up, but we need to do thisright.
That's not what they do, man. It's the laziest argument ever.
They're like fucking force it through, push it through.
Like fucking let the lawyers figure it out.
You're picking the wrong people to make your arguments, bro.
Like, like if you really feel that strongly about it, I'm not
against challenging like laws. I'm not against that.

(38:43):
What I'm saying is you already are blown because like, we're
gonna have to. So we settle with, I'm assuming
we settle with AFF, right? Because they didn't go up to the
Supreme Court, right? We settle with them.
That's gonna be a bill 10s of thousands of dollars, right?
Not only that, the people who took us to court in the 1st
place, we're gonna have to settle with them too, right?
Because we're going to the case is going to get dropped once we

(39:03):
settle with the lawyers because it's not going to continue going
forward, right? And that's even more money that
we're going to have to shell outwhen all you had to fucking do
was sit down and do it right? Do it right.
Because I'll tell you, I saw people on the left speaking with
Emil in the last couple board meetings afterwards that would
never have said a fucking word to him in the past, right?
So for, for all of the like, and, and I mean, he just passed

(39:26):
a parental notification policy. That's not perfect.
I'm not saying it's perfect. Yeah.
Yeah, right. I don't, I don't, I don't like
it. And the reason, and I've been
pretty vocal about this. I haven't really talked about it
on the podcast. I don't like it because don't it
basically makes it so either my daughter has to just deal with
potentially being uncomfortable or we sign a waiver that

(39:48):
excludes her from her own mocker.
Yeah. So, yeah, I can understand that.
I can understand why that feels terrible, right?
I do. You know who's been reaching out
to me is Melinda Anderson, and God bless her, dude.
I like Melinda Anderson OK. You always told me.
That I'm frustrated with the mail because I feel like I like
I looked at you as like an uncle, dude.

(40:09):
I had your back, bro. I let you use my fucking
platform. I think just at will, dude, I
think you know, and now it's like it's AI.
Don't want to dwell on it too much.
I talked about it a bit on the last episode that that that I
recorded and there's there's other things too that I don't
want to put out there. I'll tell you all fair.
There's other things, too, like just personal things that my

(40:29):
wife and I noticed with him where it's like just little
things that like, he lied about that, like there was no need to
lie about. And it's like, oh, that's weird.
Yeah. So whatever.
It's no big deal. But putting Jen and Joe on blast
the way e-mail constantly does? There is no juice coming out of

(40:50):
that squeeze, dude. There is.
No, I mean, they're not going to.
The thing is too though, man, you know how they say is.
You know you catch more flies ofhoney than vinegar, right?
Like here's the thing though, Joe and Jen, it doesn't matter,
bro. I could go tell them the sky is
blue and they're still going to come out and go.
It's. Red.
Well, you know. Because Sola said it was blue.
Yeah, this guy's red. So I'm going to be fair with you

(41:11):
here. Is this hard for me to subscribe
to that? Because, Doug, I've been
critical of Joe and Jen on thesemicrophones, bro.
And I know they heard it. And Joe and Jen both have gone
long times like where I can callthem and talk to them and check
in and, and, and, and, you know,sometimes I'll give them my
opinion on things. I've had my moments where they

(41:32):
ignore me, where I could see they're they're not happy with
me. And, and that's OK, right?
That's OK. But but you know, so it's hard
for me to take. It's hard for me to agree with
you that there is difficult. But I will say this is I have
heard that. I have heard that that.
They said like it's my fault. No, no, no, no, no.
What you're saying how like they're they're not willing to

(41:53):
take accountability. I have heard that before.
I haven't seen it personally, but you're not the first one to
say that, you know, but originally what I was what I I
was talking about, though, is like again, and and I'm not
trying to look, I don't hate e-mail.
I like, you know that's not whatthis is.
I honestly think it sucks that you guys are at odds.
And the only reason I say that is because throughout this whole

(42:15):
process, I watched a lot of people say that they backed
somebody up and then changed their minds or didn't.
Yeah, right. I watched that.
I remember you saying that very clearly.
I am, this is the only person I'm in on and I want to hear
what everybody has to say beforeI make my own decisions.
But this is the only person I'm in on.
And I think the the very hard turn from there to where we are

(42:36):
at today. From what I can tell, right?
I don't know everything, right, But from where we're at today, I
don't think that that's like notsalvageable.
I think that and and the reason why I say that is because I
remember how strongly, how strongly you both aligned at
your core about certain things. Execution is different, right?
Execution is totally different because I can believe 100%

(42:57):
certain things as someone else. How we get there we can differ
on right? And if I try to like and this
stuff should to your point, thisstuff shouldn't be playing out
in social media. This stuff should be.
This stuff should be sitting across from.
Each other and here's the other thing that I know, I know maybe
it bothers Jen and Joe is like I'll get tagged in Jen's post
like her recent post and I won'tengage where I'm engaging in

(43:21):
emails post. But again, it's like Jen, her
post, she's throwing shade at atat e-mail and she's doing the
same thing, right. Yeah, I don't want.
I don't. Want to exacerbate it bro?
I know I don't, I don't want to,I don't want to join in on this
fight. Bro.
I have a position. I am disappointed with e-mail
'cause I feel like, I feel like he made me push him as somebody

(43:42):
that maybe he's not really fullyand he just wanted those
conservative votes, you know? You think it's also that you
wanted, you wanted to believe that too, right?
Like, I mean, not just not just that, but like you really, you
really felt like you could support this, right?
Because it represented you better than anybody else.
And, and you know, and, and dude, and here's the thing, talk
about taking ownership is like, I'm not mad at e-mail as much as

(44:06):
I am like, well, fuck dog. I allowed him to use my platform
in that way, right? You know, I postured on him
through the platform like, it's my fault, dog.
It's my fault regardless, You'reright.
It's like I wanted to believe him.
And, and it's one of those things where it's like when we
pulled out of Afghanistan, that was a nightmare for me, dog,
because I was the one out there in 2010 looking at these people

(44:29):
in the face and telling them, we're going to take care of you,
don't worry. Everything's fine.
Yeah. We're going with the Taliban.
You don't have to worry about. You don't have to tell me, man.
I know. So.
So. So you know, I I have some I'm
loyal, right? Like to a like to to a fault.
Yeah, sure. Where it's like.
Bro, you told me, you told. Me to push you this.
Carlito from Carlito's Way, bro,you know?

(44:51):
Yeah, Benny Blanco's coming back.
For you bro, but but The thing is is what I was talking about
originally is this Melinda dude me and Melinda we never got
close like how me and e-mail did.
I had her on the platform, but Inever like I never like pushed
for her. I didn't campaign for her.
Everything that she's supportingI completely expect from her.
When when she sat across from mehere, I I saw a conservative

(45:13):
leaning moderate. You know, that's who I saw.
Well, I mean, that's why you said like you probably should
connect with Melinda because youguys are probably more.
Yeah, you. Yeah, you're.
I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I mean, and I have, and I'venot been surprised by anything
that she's done beside with the exception of voting down the
Islamic network thing. Because I was like, she didn't
even say like she didn't even say she had a problem with it.
She just went with Joe and Jen because they're being such pains

(45:35):
in the ass to her that she was like, I want to give him a throw
him a bone. But the problem is that they
don't want a bone. They want the whole damn thing,
right? So, like, anyway, I, I I'm not
going to make it seem like I'm just completely against them.
I really do want them to succeed, bro.
I do. I really want them to succeed.
The problem is that you cannot succeed in a vacuum.
You cannot succeed by yourself, and you cannot succeed in an
echo chamber. Yeah, and if you.
Well, we're not going to succeedright now as a board with how

(45:58):
much at odds we're at, you know what I mean?
They're just. Going to keep pushing 3 two man.
There's going to be a bunch of three. 2 I feel like just scrap
the whole fucking thing, dog. Let's bring in five new people
at this point. Jesus Christ, hold on.
Like and I know. That sounds you had your fucking
chance. You had your fucking chance.
In all seriousness, man. We'll see how this next
election. Goes in all seriousness, like I
really do hope that you know, I don't know that I'm going to run

(46:21):
in 26. Joe thought that like I'm I'm
doing soft campaign like. Listen well, you still got your
sticker. Yeah, yeah.
So I'm going to tell you why thesticker on my truck is for two
reasons. Number one, number one, I still
get middle fingers from people who support Joe and it just
makes my day, yo, it makes. Me.
I want to. I want to tell you this because
you told me. You told me that somebody had
told you like, dude, the election's over.

(46:43):
You lost. Get rid of your stickers, right?
You told me about that interaction a couple days ago.
Somebody was like, I saw David Solo the other day and I fucking
told him he needs to get rid of his fucking stickers.
He lost. And I was like internally dying.
I'm like, Oh my God, are the guy?
Are you the person that he was telling?
And I'm going to tell you so this is something I really fully
believe in, man. And I've told you this before.

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Like, there's not a single humanbeing on this earth that's going
to make me uncomfortable just because they're around.
But I know that when you see my sticker, you're fucking annoyed,
you're uncomfortable. You don't fucking want to see.
Guess what? I live here.
I own my fucking house, and I ain't going nowhere.
So. Are you the guy that wants the
sexual explicit stuff in our schools?
Come on, I'll show you. I'll show you exactly what stuff

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I want in the schools. Like get out of here, man.
Just, it's just a bunch of propaganda, bro.
But no, in all seriousness, man,like, you know, that's, that's
one reason, but the other reason, and I told that guy, I
said, you know why I keep my sticker on there, man?
Because there are people in thiscommunity that view it as a sign
of hope. There are, there are people that
still support me 100% just because I keep showing up.
It has nothing to do with running anymore.

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It's like you are a voice that we can, we can like get behind,
right? And, and, and I'm not trying to
like raise myself up to be more than it is.
Like that means a lot to some people, right?
That you're still in the fight, right?
And, and it's not a fight against Joe anymore.
That's the difference. It's just a fight for doing what
I think is best for our kids. But, and, and I think that you
have, I think that if you did choose to run, you'd have much

(48:08):
more momentum now and, and, and I would feel much more
comfortable. I, I personally, to keep it real
with you, I would feel much morecomfortable now with you running
because you're involved, bro. You go to the meeting, you know,
before you weren't, you know? What I mean, it's like, no, it's
true. It's a different thing.
You got to cut. Your you got to cut your yeah,
yeah, I think you do like, and you'll see it again, bro.

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It's going to be someone that comes out of the woodwork that's
going to want to run and you're going to be like, well, who the
what the fuck are you, Doug? No, I know, you know, but the
difference though, I think too was also like, there's not a
single person right or left thatwas like, I want to talk to you.
And I was like, no, like, I I connected with everybody that
wanted to meet. And then I realized that some
people don't actually want to meet.

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Like, you know, yeah, all you want to do is sit there and try
and get a oh, I gotcha. You're not going to get me, bro.
I don't have any crazy ideas. Like my ideas are so fucking
boring. I want to make sure that the
schools are safe, right? And, you know, with with the
hiring of Brian Pastor, I think the schools are much better off
now than they were a year ago, right?

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I think that there is some work to do, but he's also doing some
work. Brian Pastor is great if you
want to ask him a question. I like him.
Yeah. I like him a lot, man.
I've asked him several questions.
I've gone into his office and heshowed me plans that they're
that they're working on to help improve, like the safety of our
students in schools. I love that.
I love that he's, he's putting in that work, right?
And I love that he's willing to engage with parents to help us
understand what it is that they're doing right.

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He. Really love the watchdog shit
bro he's really trying to. Dude, I and, and you know, I've,
I've been on on board with the watchdog shit.
The only reason I ain't been there since like January is
because I I quit my job and I got a new.
Job Oh no, no, like it's that's.Literally the only reason why I
haven't been there. But in in all seriousness, man,
like the the district is making some better strides and and
moving in a better direction, but we still got a lot of work

(49:54):
to do, man. And when we sit there and we
fight about shit all the time, that work just becomes, you
know, pushed to the back of the pile and it takes longer and
more effort to try to get it done.
And it's, it's just, it's unfortunate, man.
So I, I agree. I think it would be great if we
had five brand new people, right.
But I also think that that's notrealistic, man.
Sometimes you just stuck with, you know, you're stuck with that
Gunny. Yeah.

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You wanna, you know what I'm saying?
I'm just stuck with that Gunny that you do wanna work with.
And you just gotta figure it out, you know what I'm saying?
So I mean that's that's kind of where.
Everyone hates that fucking Gunny man.
That fucking? Guy, I probably was that Gunny.
Formations at 5. He wants us there at 4:30.
What the fuck is this man? Probably so early bro.
How would? It's so early, but no, man, I
mean for real, you know, and, and you know, with all this

(50:37):
stuff going on, man, I appreciate you.
You know, when I reached out andsaid, Hey, man, let's, you know,
let's, let's talk. We've had we've had our our
concerns and disagreements aboutstuff, but I think that at the
end of the day we're trying to be involved locally.
Yeah, we, yo, you and I agree ona lot.
We disagree on a lot and it but it's funny is like at the end of
the day, bro, and and I know that like we fell off a little
bit ago and you were like, I know you don't fuck with me.

(50:58):
Now you text me. It's like it really wasn't that.
It's just, you know, we just fell off and we just haven't
touched. But like, honestly, dude, at the
end of the day, we come from thesame area.
We grew up on the same culture. We're both Puerto Rican, we both
are Marines. Like we're much more.
We have a lot more in common. Yeah, we have a lot more in
common, even even though we don't see everything eye to eye
like that. Shit don't mean shit to me.

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You feel one way about one thing, I feel another.
It never really. We can't let it.
I can't let it devolve into whatwe just talked about earlier,
right? Like it cannot be like, you know
what? I can't even fucking talk to
you. Like, what it needs to be is I
can't talk to you right now. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Instead of I can't talk to you at all.
And I think if we set that example for the rest of the
community, I think that's a good, that's a good thing,

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right, To say I just can't talk to you right now because I feel
very strongly about this thing, right?
Yeah, and you know, and I say, you know, you say we set the
example for the community. It's funny.
It's like, bro, I noticed that alot of people, a lot of my
haters are mad that I view myself as an example and stuff.
It's funny as it's like, I get it that like not everybody
subscribes to that. I'm still going to keep doing

(52:03):
what I do, right? You know what I mean?
Like. You because I don't do it for.
I don't do it for. People, I don't do it for the
views, I don't do it. I do it for the dog I want and
and I'm already there. Honestly bro, like I have City
Council members phone numbers inmy phone that you know, I
message them, I speak with them.School board members involve

(52:23):
parents. It's like I only want to fuck
with the people who step up and show.
Up and put in the work. Yeah, I don't want to, but bro,
people see me that, you know, they're.
Oh, I hear you're like a political, you know, like I'll
go, I'll I'll go to a friend's place and there's like a friend
of a friend. Yeah, somebody be like, oh,
you're like a, a political, you know, but what do you think

(52:44):
about Trump? And it's like, Doug, I don't, I
don't want to talk to you about politics.
You can't even tell me one person's name on your school
board member. Oh, yeah.
You you don't even know any of your kids.
You don't know a single one of their.
Teachers. Oh my gosh, dude, you're so.
Right. I don't want to fucking engage
with you. You're not.

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You're irrelevant to me. Last night I went to the
Riverside Sheriff's Association's inaugural
leadership roundtable up in I think it was like near Moreno
Valley or something, some, it was out in the sticks, right?
Anyway, you know, Sheriff Biancogave like a keynote address and
everything and it was really, itwas really interesting.
But I realized there was, do youlike him?

(53:26):
Do you like him? So I think he's bringing
something right now that we needto call out in California,
right? Like this deficit and and how
the budget is getting spent is afucking problem.
It's a serious problem. And I think when he talked about
that yesterday, it really caughtmy attention.

(53:47):
I try. So look, man, this might sound a
little petty, right? But I try not to like be fans of
people who aren't fans of me, right?
And when you know, he's he's endorsed Joe and Jan and these
people are not fans of me, right?
So I have no obligation to be a fan of of Chad.
But what I will say is what he'stalking about these concerns

(54:09):
that he's bringing up are real. They're not going to go away.
They're not going to disappear right.
So I appreciate that somebody isbringing this shit up now,
whether or not he is going to win.
I forgot who the other dude is that that is likely going to get
the the nom from the Republicans.
But some guy from closer to Orange County or something like
that. I can't remember his name, but
Latino dude. No, no, no, no, no ball headed

(54:32):
white dude. I think I can't remember his
name anyway. What, what I, and this is what,
how, you know, like I'm not likeleft or right, bro.
I don't, I don't listen to people until they're like at the
point where I need to make a decision and I have to start
listening to them. But I think he's bringing up a
lot of shit that we're really concerned about, you know what I
mean? But he did have a lot of good
shit to say yesterday that we're, you know, we're getting
the drugs under control where, you know, where, you know, I

(54:54):
think it was Prop 36. Like all these things that got
passed, like we're still hookingand jabbing and trying to make,
you know, Riverside County better, right?
But I'll be honest with you, man, I don't have aspirations to
go outside of Temecula for anything.
I, I was bumping elbows with allsorts of assembly members and
like all these people that are in politics up there and I was

(55:15):
just like, yeah, this is fuckingfun.
But like, what are y'all doing for Temecula?
You know what I'm saying? Like I care about, I care about
here. This is where I want to die,
right? You know what I'm saying?
Like I'm not trying to worry about any of that other shit.
So anyway, Long story short, man, these people, they can't
tell you who their school board,you know, representatives are.
They can't tell you who their, you know, their trustees, they
can't tell you who their City Council people are.

(55:37):
And I sit here and I go, That affects you.
More, way, more, way more. And people don't even know.
But it's like, And the other thing is, is like the the
president that your kids are going to have to deal with when
they're adults. Yeah, or a fucking City Council
member somewhere. There's yeah, they're not there
yet. They're going to get there,
though. And it but and it but if you

(55:57):
were locked into your local politics, we'd be able to filter
out the shitty politicians earlythey.
Never even get a chance. They don't even get to grow
into. Yeah, you'll never, you know,
you know, like we, we need to make sure that the first level
entry into politics, school board, City Council, they are
real people who want to represent, present the people
they're not politically driven or or trying to represent.

(56:19):
And they're getting challenged idea, they're getting challenged
on their positions. Yeah, I want to see how do you
deal with opposition? How do you deal with people that
disagree with you? How do you deal with it?
How do you deal with it? Are you a piece of shit and
like, Oh well, you know, are you, are you just dismissive or
are you real about, you know what I mean?
So I don't know, there's a lot to it.
So yeah, I, I, I only want to fuck with parents and people

(56:41):
like you bro, who are like in the know and involved and
informed and I. Appreciate that.
Yeah, that's it cuz that, you know, and I will say it again,
man, I said this earlier, but I've had a lot of people like,
you know, a lot of people don't like you.
I don't need to like tell you. Yeah, yeah, like, but I've had a
lot of people that are like, whydo you, why do you connect with
him? And I've told people, you know,

(57:01):
Danny and I share some shit thatnot everybody shares, right?
Like our backgrounds, spending time in the Marine Corps, not a
lot of people share that shit. That's a different type of
connection, right? Whether or not we agree on
certain things, that doesn't even fucking matter sometimes.
Like we share that connection. And I, I told them they're like,
you know, Danny Molina is not nice.
He's not a nice person. And I'm like, he's fucking nice

(57:23):
to me. Like I don't fucking have any.
I've never had a a situation where I felt like you weren't
being, you know, a productive person when it came to me.
Right. So, but I, I do acknowledge that
not everybody has had that same experience with you.
Yeah. Right.
So like, you know, whatever other people have had, like,
yeah, that sucks. But also, do you think that I'm

(57:43):
just going to go, Oh, well, I guess I fucking hate Danny now
because like, you know, well. They expect you to and, and, and
the other thing is, is like I guarantee you all of those
people have never have never satdown and had a real like even
had a 5 minute conversation withme.
It's all it's all been the people who feel like that about
me have been online conversations and people who

(58:04):
just see me from a distance, youknow what I mean?
I mean, you got to be willing toshow up, right?
Like that's the that's the thing, Like you got to be
willing to show up and talk. And some people like they're so
entrenched, you know, and that'show I feel about, you know, and
I brought this up before, but like in the city limits, we
fucking over performed like crazy during the election,
right? We, we got crushed in wine

(58:24):
country is where we got crushed.But I told people in wine
country, talk to me. You cannot sit down and have a
conversation with me and think that I'm an irrational person.
That's not, that's not going to be a thing, right?
But but The thing is, they don'twant to believe that because
they align more directly with someone else, right?
So I'm like, guys, I will put inthe work for you.

(58:44):
Whether or not I agree with you.I will put in the work for you.
And you know, unfortunately thatworks for some people and it
doesn't work for others. But it's not going to change who
I am, you know what I mean? Well, dude, I appreciate you
coming on, man. It's a yeah.
It's a long episode, man. We're going to work on this.
No, no, I know you got to do some editing stuff.
She's she's wore out. Yeah, yeah.
Hey, dude, as the producer, you got to be like 10 minutes, dude.

(59:06):
Yeah, you got to let us. You're going to have better
control. You're.
Supposed to be like hyping us upand like we're just going.
To sit here and talk if you don't lock in dog damn not
think. That I was allowed to, allowed
to listen. You're the producer.
Uses your show. You gotta you.
You don't, you know? Yeah.
If you want power, you don't wait till it comes to you.
You take it. You take it.
Yeah, with great power comes great responsibility.

(59:30):
Hey, no, no joke though, I wish you, I wish you the best of luck
at TV. It's high school is always a
challenge, but it sounds like you're on the right track and I
really do wish you luck. Thank you.
You're welcome. Sweet.
All right, dude. Well, thanks a lot man.
Bro this is fun man this is good.
We'll see you guys later. Thanks for tuning in.