PBT, Episode 62; TVUSD Board Meeting, September 2025, ft. Cole

Danny and Cole sit down to discuss the key takeaways TVUSD school board meeting in early September.

Episode Transcript

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You ever wonder what is the truth?
Three things cannot be long headed, the sun, the moon and
the truth. All right, guys, another episode

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of Point Blank Truth Podcast. Thank you for sticking with us
today. Across from me is the one and
only Cole. Man, Cole, thank you so much for
being with us today. Thanks for having me.
You know, this is the 99 board meeting that we're going to talk
about. We just, we, we took a break off
after what happened with CharlieKirk.

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And then I just dropped or I dropped the August meeting and
then the Marine rapper episode and then so this one.
So this is going to come out notthis week, but next week.
Just just so you know, for thoseof you that are listening, I
don't think there's another board meeting before then.
But yeah, 99, this was an interesting meeting.

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Cole. I don't know.
I'm looking at the agenda and itwas a packed house.
There were a lot of, you know, people who don't live in
Temecula, I think. I think there were, there were a
handful of people came to speak and I don't know, I don't know

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what's the what was, what was your first thoughts about it
when you when you went back and watched it?
I guess my first thoughts would be it was really damage control
for part of the meeting and kindof retracting some things and
then being more willing to work with the other side, even though

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they're all conservatives. So I just felt like damage
control. Yeah, really.
Yeah, yeah. You know, they opened the
meeting and then it was. It almost feels like Melinda
Anderson always wants to make sure she can like, preload her
position first. That's what it always seems

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like. Unfortunately, yeah.
Yeah, you know, it's like. Especially these last couple of
months. Yeah, I mean, we spent like for
the 1st 45 minutes fixing the agenda and arguing and disputing
like, and it was like silliness.Like one of the first things
that she brought up was the is it the Pacific Justice

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Institute? Is that right?
And that bothered me as well because it's interesting how
either the information was finally being shared or it was
barely actually being looked into fully because it tied into
the hole. We already have the privacy
notice. We don't need to have a policy
in place with how it's no longercompliant.

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She's saying she has one Rep telling her that Weirsma saying
I was never told that. I was told that it was
absolutely still valid and you were able to use it.
So it's still compliant. So I don't know if it's like a
whole gatekeeping thing or if there's different people at the
same place that have provided the document that are
misinformed. It still doesn't make sense

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because they both got different answers.
So who's right? Who's telling the truth?
Or maybe they both are and PJI needs to get it figured out.
I have no idea. Right.
And and I think we do need to sort that out.
And I just want the listeners toknow if you go back and watch
that meeting, they started arguing about it.
And it was like, first of all, bringing that up was completely

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pointless. And here's why is because it
wasn't agendized. And if you go back and watch the
meetings, Jen Weirsma wasn't saying like, we should take this
and just use it. No, it was just like a template.
Yeah, she was like, this is already legal, this is already
being used, so we should come upwith something like this for our
district. And I made a post explaining

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that like, here we go, we can use this right now.
And, and so when I saw that argument happening, I went up to
Brian Pastor, who's the directorof security for the district.
And I printed out five copies ofthe e-mail that I got from PJ
because after the August meeting, I called them because I

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went on their website and I tried to get access to the
documents and you couldn't get access from the website.
So I called them and I said, Hey, I'm just, I'm, I made it
seem like it was a document thatI want to use in my school,
right? I'm just trying to get access to
the document so I can use it. And they said, we'll get back to
you, give us your contact information.
And I got an e-mail sent to me from the operations department

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of the Pacific Justice Institutewith the California document and
the every other state document, the same document, just specific
to California and everything else.
And it says in the e-mail like, feel free to use this how you
need to. And that was on August 28th, I
think it was. So right after the.
Last, yeah, right after the lastboard meeting.

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I mean, it's 10 days, 10 days, yeah, 10 days before this one,
right? And Melinda standing up there
saying like, oh, they don't evenrecommend that this is used
anymore. It's like, well, ten days ago,
their operations department sentit to me to use it in that way,
right. So I I'm, I, I, I went up to
Brian password, like, hey, can you give this to Jen?

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And he goes, I can't, I have to give it to Melinda.
I said, OK, that's fine. And he goes, oh, and I have to
wait until a break. So then they got into their
little argument and then they went in a break.
And again, and I'm pretty sure this is before we even did the
Pledge of Allegiance. This is like before the meeting
even. Yeah, you know, So I'm like, OK,
And then he gives it to Doctor Anderson.

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He's like, I gave it to her. I'm like, OK, cool.
And then me and Doctor K lock eyes and he's my representative.
So we're still, we're still in the break.
So I go up and I give him his copy.
And then I was kind of scolded about it, which kind of threw me
off 'cause it. And I know I get look, I don't
think it was like a personal thing with Brian.
I think maybe there is some sortof process their yeah protocol

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they're trying to have, but again, like.
Announce that so we. Know exactly you.
You can't just blanket that on me.
I'm a constituent. Well, not.
Just that it was a break. Trustees go into the audience to
talk to the constituents all thetime, so I don't.
See the issue with that? Yeah, so and and also it wasn't
me being sneaky. No, he had already discussed.
It 5 copies, Yeah, and. And I have 5 copies, all right,

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You have to give it to Melinda. That's Melinda's copy.
You know, that's the way I looked at it, right?
And then and then Melinda came out and, like, didn't even bring
it up anymore. And it's like, you just got the
paperwork. You just got the document as the
president. Maybe you don't like that.
Maybe you're wrong, but that is something that you should

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address. Yeah.
Somebody from the audience just presented this to you, and you
think you're going to like, we don't need to talk about it.
It's just weird. It's weird.
It's super gatekeepy. It's it's unprofessional and and
like bringing that up was unnecessary period.
The only point to bring that up would be to just try to

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discredit Jen. And I'm, I'm really tired of the
personal, what's the word, just the personal baggage that
continues to be brought on to the dais.
I understand there's certain things with the Brown Act where
they can't just talk to each other about certain things, but
when you have like a personal gripe, I feel like that isn't

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violating the Brown Act. That's just two people talking
to each other saying, hey, I, you know, I personally just
don't like working with you. Here's the reasons why.
Can we find a way to just interact respectfully and just
let the past be the past? I'm not sure why that's so
difficult to do. But when it comes to the picking
and choosing of transparency, I have an issue with that.

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I expected across the board, whether it's something that a
trustee or the board president likes or dislikes is irrelevant.
The constituents need to be aware of what's going on.
They should just be letting us know if a constituent is trying
to give more information on topic we were just discussing
for however long, let the publicknow.
Let the public decide. Isn't that what this is all
about? We getting all the information

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and then us making an educated decision or an informed decision
based off of that? Because that was new information
we didn't hear any other time before since May.
So we've got all those months inbetween where they could have
found all this out. And then, like I said, it's this
personal gripe of, OK, well, nowI'm going to discredit you.
So then who's right and who's wrong 'cause now the

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constituents are still not informed.
Is it a compliant document or isit not?
We're well aware that it is because why would another
department from the same place that's legally held to a
standard to provide a form like that?
Right said. You could use it as you saw fit.
And, and, and also like if you think about it like if, OK, if

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I'm a parent in the district andI present a school principal
with that form and say you have to accommodate my daughter, like
you do have to accommodate my daughter.
I don't care what you think about.
Yeah, I don't care what you think about that form.
If you want to type something upthat we can agree on, then that
works too. But again, it is a legal

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document that has been used, that can be used.
And it's like, what? What sort of legal trouble
should I expect? You're you're saying that if I
bring this like, and that that was another thing that I was
confused about. Like what was Melinda's point?
Is Melinda's point that if me asa parent, I bring this document
up and go, hey principal, pleaseaccommodate my child that you're

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going to sue me, that the district is going to sue me for
wanting my child accommodated and using this form?
Which they couldn't do anyway because you can write your own
letter on your own letterhead and submit it as an official
document on the kids records. Anyways, so that so that and
again, this just ties back into like her goal on the dais is no

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longer seems like to represent the community.
It is more focused on making JenWeirsma look bad.
And damage control and whatever else.
It's like people have already made-up their minds about all
the trustees and how they work together and don't work
together. You're not going to change
anyone's minds anymore. And that shouldn't even be the

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focus. People have decided how they
feel about the board president and all the trustees and you
need to just let that go and move on.
Just get the job done. And right now it's just that's
not happening. Even still, sure things are
getting passed either unanimously or what have you,
but we keep bringing up things that put us in the newspaper and

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viral on social media. It's getting old.
We're getting all this attentionfor all the wrong things and
still no resolutions. Obviously the meeting did result
in having something where they claimed it was a Band-Aid.
Until, you know, the law changes, fine, fair enough.
But again, to your point in previous episodes, but also
online, why didn't we just address this fully and

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cohesively in May when it was brought to their attention?
Because again, the messenger, wehave to get away from that.
It doesn't matter who is presenting the information, just
get it done. Yeah, exactly.
And that's, and that's what it seems like up there at this
point is like if Jen and Joe, ifJen and if Misses Weirsma and
Dr. Komarowski bring forward an idea that's good, solid, meets

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the needs of the community, people would get behind.
It seems like the other three board members will just oppose
it at all cost. You know what I mean?
And unfortunately, it's been months of that.
Well, I mean, there's no way to this right here.
This, this meeting is a perfect example of that because this was
something that was brought forward in May and should have

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been addressed in May, and it didn't get addressed until
September. And in the process, look at how
our community has been crapped on line social media.
And then we had because it was an issue that was up in the air,
we had a trans student that decided, you know what?
I'm not going to change in the nurse's office anymore.

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I'm going in my locker room. And then we had walk outs and
protests. And now regular parents who just
want to protect the privacy of our daughters are being labeled
as bigots, hateful. And again, this is a direct
result of poor leadership on ourschool board.

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That's my opinion on it. I mean, I don't, I don't know
how else to look at it. There is no other way to look at
it at this point because again, had we just done our due
diligence, and by us, I mean theboard on our behalf in May, all
of this would have been avoided.All of it, the culture war, the
going viral, the other vendettasin between, all of that, the

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international spotlight that we talked about in the last
episode, like what are we even talking about anymore?
We're getting attention for all the wrong reasons, just like we
did with the old board. It's just a repeat, but on a
bigger scale. Right, right.
That's not what we voted for. No, no, it's not what we voted
for. And and you know what?
And like the the thing that really frustrates me about like

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this board is that like a lot ofpeople, even the people who
opposed Doctor Anderson and opposed Emil Barham, the whole
community assumed that Doctor Anderson and Emil Barham would
be working better with Jen Weir's not and Doctor K,

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everyone did. So not only was the community
lied to in that way and manipulated in that way, now
it's creating more chaos than than we've had.
Yeah. And like we've said in the past,
and I have said, I don't think that that was the initial
intention. I still want to give the benefit
of the doubt, however, we're in September.

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We've seen how everything's played out, where it's leaned
where it hasn't. And unfortunately, that's what
it's starting to look like. And it's unfortunate.
And I've said this in previous episodes.
I would rather just have a brandnew board because I'm so tired
of it. Yeah, I mean, you know my big
thing, like with the Conservatives during during the
whole like election cycle, I waslike, hey, I know we don't like

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Schwartz, but we got to make sure that he don't we it's not a
good idea to just make him irrelevant to just dis disregard
he's. Representing a part of the
community. So like, it's funny how like I
like, postured on that and then all of a sudden now it's Doctor
Komorowski and Jen Weirsma who are being treated that way.
And it's just like, got it, dude.

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I, I am against treating board members like that.
You're elected, you're in the seat, you represent your
constituents. And you have to, you don't have
to like the person, but you've got to respect the position that
they hold. And there's too much personal
feelings being brought into it. Leave your feelings at the door.
When you go and sit on that dais, you are on company time,

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district time, constituents, taxpayer dollars, time.
Do the job. Leave it at the door.
And you know, you know, and then45 minutes before the meeting
even gets started, they're already at each others net.
And we're still talking about itbecause it took that long.
Yeah, it took that long. We're still talking about it
here. And, and it's and then and then
at the end, Melinda Anderson wanted to cut public comment

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again. You know, it's funny is like, if
you look at the agenda, it's open session attendance, Pledge
of Allegiance, then Melinda Anderson gets board president
comment 3 minutes. That's how she sets the agenda
then. Your constituents should get
their three. Minutes.
Yeah, yeah, we should go right after her or even before her,
but she doesn't care to hear from us.
She puts it at the end. She wastes a bunch of time in

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the beginning, then like they were going through the agenda
and like, do we want to leave that or do we want to?
That should all be sorted out before the community is sitting
in the room, lady. And I think that the whole,
that's what I was saying, we're picking and choosing when to be
transparent, when to include thecommunity, when not to pick one
and just stay there. Yeah, and then even if you watch

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the, even if you watch the meeting, they bounce around.
They they like went from like. They were like R1R2R4 at the
beginning, then moving and switching in five with O2.
And this is already like in. Well.
Like just like just go through it and get and it's just, I
don't know. I don't know.
It's what a joke. That's what it just seems like

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to me. It's, it's a joke and it's, it's
for. And then and then I do want to
know. I gave a public comment on this
day about it. I do want to see the exact fee
it's costing us for Melinda Anderson to have a freaking
attorney sitting there next to her.
What the hell is that? I don't understand it.

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This is This is. Is it because she doesn't feel
confident in doing the job anymore and needs to constantly
have a a babysitter? Which is kind of ironic because
we've talked about that in the past, too, for that position
they were trying to fill. And it's like, you guys should
be able to just follow Robert's Rules of Order.
You're the president, but you control this whole thing.

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Like again, and I think this is again a lack of transparency,
something is going on legally. There has to be.
Why would he be there? Need an attorney next to her
during. It's been different ones.
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. Well, well, the first time it
was one attorney and then we hadanother attorney on the screen,
Marco, and then I think it was Marco in there this time.
Yeah, DeMarco. That's right, he came in

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physically the place of the other guy.
Yeah, but but again, that is costing our district money.
Where's the outrage for that? Where?
Where is the left on that? Fiscal responsibility going.
Picking and choosing yeah, again, where's where's the one
Temecula pack people talking about how that's wasting our.
District. I'm surprised by that, actually.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Did anyone?
Mention it in the comments maybe.

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I think a couple of people mighthave and said, hey, what's the
attorney here? For I'm going to be paying for
that yeah, no, I definitely did so yeah, I and and I'm serious
my comments, even though I like kinda like when at Melinda with
my comment I'm dead. She's the board president.
But again, I want to see what that is because if you, if you

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guys pay attention on the agenda, the way they tell you
how they're spending money, it'sa warrant list.
And then the warrant list is so vague.
It's so vague and it's like a month or two months combined in
one. So like, no, no, no, I want to
see this being itemized. I want to know what it's costing

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our district to have an attorneyhere for five hours because you
can't conduct yourself with honesty and transparency.
I want to know why it's like that.
And I don't even know if it's for that.
It may just be I don't want anyone saying I violated the
Brown Act or I said something out of step and now we can be
sued for that. It's like if you're not aware of

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what you can and cannot say as the board president, maybe you
shouldn't be the board presidentanymore so we don't lose money
paying for a lawyer to tell you how to do your job.
But again, Can you imagine what it would have looked like?
Doctor Kamarowski was doing that?
Oh, all the chaos he went through.
Imagine if he had one of the attorneys sitting there.
Yes, they would be pissed. They'd be eating him.
A lot, but now they act like he's not even there.

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And then they go up and and and join in on the Gen. bashing, you
know what I mean? I'm tired of that too.
I don't care who it is. You guys need to leave that crap
at the door already. It's childish.
All right, so looking at this, oh amend board policy rescind
exhibits. All right, let's talk about this

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a little bit because this is this has also been.
There were news articles that were put out saying that like,
Oh no, it was never policy. Yes, it was.
It was 100% policy. I don't understand.
Like we, we, I've played it. You know what?
Let's play it again. Let's play that Lady talking
from June. Mary Davis.

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Not Mary Davis, the lady who wassaying thank you.
I was one of the first parents that filled this.
Oh. Yes, the woman that filled it.
Out. That was in June, I think.
Was that the June meeting or theMay meeting?
I thought it was. July because it passed and then
that's when all the chaos started in July.
I believe it was a July meeting.Good evening everyone.

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My name is Mary Belle Williams and I'm the mother of a rising
5th grader at French Valley Elementary School.
I also serve as a court appointed Special Advocate and a
certified educational surrogate parent for students with Ieps in
Riverside County. I'm here tonight to publicly
thank this board and especially Doctor Anderson for adopting a

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new religious and mental health accommodation policy that
protects students privacy and shared spaces, bathrooms, locker
rooms. I was one of the first parents
to complete and submit both forms on behalf of my own child.
So that Lady literally claimed to fill out the document and

(21:38):
turned it in. And if that wasn't true, or if
that wasn't something that she legally could have done, Emil
and Melinda should have and could have corrected the record,
said something. And now it's like they're moving
and giving quotes and news articles as if that Lady never

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went up and spoke so. Which is insane.
Yeah. I mean, it's like either that
Lady is lying, which is not. I don't, I don't think it's very
likely or you just don't want toown it, that you did give this
to us to use and you did want usto use it right after it passed
in May. Yes, and I think maybe they may
argue with a technicality of it was still pending with legal for

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the verbiage. However, a parent can
technically if I'm not mistaken turn in any kind of letter or
request to their school site regardless of what the document
is. Obviously, if something were to
happen, it may not hold up if it's not something that holds up
in court or with Ed Code, right?So again, if they were made

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available to us, which they werewith the disclosure that they
were pending and legal, I believe the parent filled it out
and turned it into the school. Whether they want to say that
happened or not, everybody saw and heard and know that that
happened. Well, well, and and here's.
And it did pass because it happened in a previous meeting
and you can go back and look. And, and here's another piece of

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it that I want to point out is that when when the school year
started, Melanie and I went intoit thinking that this was
policy. I think we all did.
And, and we got the syllabus from Temecula Valley High
School's PE class. It said nothing about it.

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And we had to sign the syllabus.So like right away I'm like,
that's a little weird. We got this new policy.
They want me to, they want me tosign this syllabus, but there's
nothing in it. Like, what if my daughter's an
accommodated student? Like explain to me how that what
that's going to look like? Like what's going on with that?
And then we reached out to e-mail Barham.
My wife reached out to e-mail and e-mail refused to talk.

(23:50):
First of all, e-mail was like, which parental rights policy?
There's a lot of them like he was like acting like he didn't
know who you're talking, right, right.
So then like we, we specificallysaid and then he mail was like,
oh, you need to speak given the scenario, you need to speak to
your trustee representative. So it's like he didn't even want
to deal with it. And it's not like we're trying
to. It's not like we were trying to

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fuck with him or anything. He was the one that.
He was the one that wanted us tocelebrate this, so we're just
trying to get the information. Well, your trustee wasn't a part
of it, so why would you go to exactly somebody that doesn't
have the knowledge on? It and that's, and that's the
other frustrating part is like when when never mind, never
mind. I don't even want to go there.
I just, I, I knew that Doctor K didn't know anything really

(24:34):
about this policy or the waiver.He only knew what everyone else.
Yeah, he wasn't in on this and they gate kept it from him.
So then when we have questions, we're asking and we have the
emails with Doctor Woods and, and, and we're just asking and
what we were told is that they're still working on the
verbiage of those documents. Which is fair, but again, to our

(24:56):
previous points and previous episodes regarding these types
of issues, how is this being executed across 29 school sites
or wherever it's applicable? Each school site has their own
way of doing things. So how are the board of trustees
and the district admin requesting that school sites

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handle this? Or are they like what is that
process? Right.
And that's, that's essentially what we were looking for.
And at no point did anybody tellmy wife in an e-mail.
We're talking about Doctor Woods, Dr. Komrowski and Emil
Barhem. At no point did anybody go.

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That's not even policy yet. Don't worry about it.
Those documents haven't been implemented yet, so don't worry
about it. At no point did anybody say
that. And they could have.
Yeah, they could have. Yeah.
From. All the mess.
Exactly. But but again, that just proves
the point is this policy was in effect the exit.
The exhibits were accessible to the public to fill out and give

(26:04):
to your individual sites. Just when Melanie and I went to
look, they weren't anymore because somebody filled them out
and they they celebrated it in public comment.
And so like a lot of people werelike, oh, you shouldn't be
rescinding anything. Nothing.
That's not true. It did pass.
And they? Do have to rescind policy?
Yeah. So, so I don't know it's yeah,

(26:27):
there was a lot of comments to that.
A lot of people went up there and spoke.
Don't gaslight the public. Yeah.
If you're going to take any advice from anything we're
talking about, don't gaslight the public.
That's never a good look. We've said before the Internet
is forever, right? And there's folks that were
there in person that heard it pass.

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Yeah. So what happened at this meeting
is that they rescinded those exhibits, they rescinded that
policy and then now they're looking to just then they, they
passed the policy that was basically adopt board policy and

(27:11):
administrative regulation 5 one or five 145.35 privacy
accommodation and related form. So basically everybody has a
right to privacy. And our policy says that anybody
that requests the right to privacy document should be
filled out. There's it's no longer tied to
mental health, it's no longer tied to religious belief.

(27:31):
It's just a blank, a blanket right to privacy, which is how
it should have gone in the beginning.
You know, another thing that really pissed me off was when
the girls, when the young middleschool girls went up to speak to
this, you know, a bunch of people like Jen Reeves, Jen
Saint Nicholas. Is that her name?

(27:53):
Jessica. Jessica Nicholas, maybe.
I don't know. She's the the thicker lady with
the glasses and like the orange hair and Christine Masa.
A bunch of people on that side didn't clap at all.
And it's like, Jesus, you're disgusting, dude.
And and again, it's like it, it just shows, yeah, they're kids.

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They're kids. They're not adults you can't
stand. They're children.
These are the same people standing outside their school
calling all of their parents hateful and bigoted.
And then now these young girls are coming up to speak to how
they feel, and you can't even applaud and respect their
strength to go up there and use their freedom of speech.

(28:38):
And again, dude, this happened, this meeting happened before
this recent assassination. And I think, I think it just all
ties into the state of our country and how disgusting some
people are. They identify completely with
their political beliefs and and they just can't escape that
bubble. It's and it's disgusting.

(28:58):
It's gross losing their. Humanity and their civility.
Yeah, and I gave a public comment to that about how these
people over here did not clap, and that's disgusting.
And there was one lady that was sitting there and she was like,
I did clap. I did clap.
And if you watch the video you could see where like she like
stopped. Being.
I think I heard something in thebackground.
Yeah, yeah, and, and, and I haven't watched it, but somebody

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was like, what? What were those weirdos saying
to you? Like somebody text me.
So I assumed it was like. No, you could hear some in the.
Background. OK yeah, yeah.
So like, I'm like, oh, OK yeah. But you didn't you didn't
correct anybody around you though, you know what I mean?
Like you're still these are still your people.
Yeah. I'd be like, you know, those are
just kids. Yeah.
Hey, those are kids. They use clap.
That they spoke and were brave. To do that, you don't agree with
what they. Yeah, exactly.

(29:42):
You know, police your own policeyour own.
That's what it's coming to. We've got to hold each other
accountable, even our own people, whatever that.
Means whatever that means. Yeah, yeah, whatever that means.
So. So the exhibits got pulled, the
policy was changed, and now we're waiting on the right form

(30:05):
to fill out. So I still think that you can
use the Pacific, just the Pacific Institute, the J, the
Pacific Justice Institute, JP isforms in the meantime.
I still don't see why that's an issue.
I don't care what anybody says, you know, like we have a right

(30:25):
to privacy. We don't have to wait for the
board to come out with their form for us to demand our
daughters. As long as it falls under the Ed
code on your request, honestly, from my understanding it doesn't
matter how it's drafted you you can write it out if you'd like
as a parent and just state the specifics and if it doesn't
violate Ed code they have to honor it.

(30:45):
Right, right. So yeah, I just thought all that
was so interesting. Yeah, we'll have to see how that
all plays out because I'm still very confused.
Is it compliant? Is it not compliant?
One person saying this, one person saying that We've got
three different departments fromPJI saying one thing allegedly
because we don't have any confirmation from PJI themselves
that that even took place. So that needs to get cleared up.

(31:08):
Since you brought it on the dais, you guys need to clear
that up. Yeah, absolutely.
All right. So then we have Riverside
University Health system behavior health thing, OK.
We talked about this the last time we were here.
It was on the agenda in August and we we talked about a little

(31:29):
bit and, and just just so the listeners understand what
actually happened with that behavioral health facility
'cause we didn't really talk about it in depth last time.
So the upgrade to the Temecula Valley Hospital was approved,
but it will not be a behavioral health facility as of right now.

(31:49):
I think they went back to their cancer treatment facility and
then it's going to be a big parking structure that they put
there. Now, that doesn't mean that they
can't change it up, of course, you know what I mean?
That doesn't mean that they can't try to address it again.
And yeah, and, and again, this terrifies me because Derek
talked about it how he's like, watch, they're going to put that
hospital and then use our use our school district to kind of

(32:12):
keep their beds filled. And yeah, it's, it's concerning.
And then in, in August, it was afour to one vote no, right.
And then it got put back on the agenda.
Yeah, in September. Emil wanted to change his vote
or something, but then there wassomething about, oh, Doctor K

(32:36):
said we might be violating the Brown Act, or that was just to
hear comments, I think. I wish I wanted to know.
Considering the vote. I want to know why e-mail wanted
to change his vote. Yeah.
And he didn't get to speak to itbecause they said we can't do
that. Yeah.
Yeah, so that's frustrating, butalso it's good to know that you
can't, you can't just keep bringing this back.
Like what bothers me is like it's very clearly like this UHS

(33:02):
system. Obviously it's.
Grimy. Well, yeah, I mean, they have,
they have access to people who make decisions for us in our
community. And obviously they're doing
everything and anything they canto try to squeeze, squeeze their
way into our community. And it's like, dude, we we said
no, we don't want it. So yeah, I don't know, this

(33:24):
concerns me. I'm sure we're going to see it
again. The fact that they put it back
on the agenda, I'm sure we're going to see it again with, you
know, when, when they start breaking ground and building to
expand that hospital so. Some other proposal.
Yeah, Yeah. Just we'll just keep our do our
due diligence and keep our eye on that.
But yeah, I mean, look, here's my point with this behavioral

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health, because a lot of people are like, oh, you know, don't
you care about substance abuse and things like that?
And and it's like, no, dude, like that.
That's not what this is about, right?
That's not what this is about. We don't have these issues in
Temecula. No, we don't.
We don't, you know, it's. Like what are we talking about?
Yeah, and and and again, this istoo.

(34:09):
Far in the whole preventative measure thing.
We can go back to the whole DAREprogram stuff, which already is
another controversial issue thisis just going way too far with.
It This seems like just the way to usurp parental control over
the decisions that we make with our.
Children. I mean, it's California.
Yeah, so, and, and, and I get it.
I I mean, I can't, I can't speakto everybody.
I'm sure there are some kids in Temecula.

(34:31):
But it's probably a small. Percentage, yeah, it's a small
percentage and. Just like we have a small
percentage of homeless population into.
Right. It's, you know, it's like, and,
and here's another thing with e-mail is he's the one that
brought forward the point that how low our math scores are, how
low our reading scores are. And it's like, oh, so now, now

(34:56):
you think that we can bring forward an organization that's
going to be providing mental health services?
How much time in the day do we have here at school?
We don't, you know what I mean? It's like, I don't even know how
that would. Be implemented or executed at
each school site makes no sense.To you, I don't I don't know
either. And it's just it's very vague.
And yeah, I don't like it. This UHS system, I don't like it

(35:19):
in the again, they're a for profit system.
And just to clarify, it's not that I have an issue with mental
health. It's not I am very well versed
we need for mental health. Resources care solace through
the district to provide those services if there's issues.
Right, so. Why do we need more?
But I got to see, I went to the UH, s s little debrief to the

(35:43):
community and I saw how dismissive they were, how much
they didn't care about our concerns.
It's a for profit organization and we asked them who's
profiting in their answer was the community.
And it's like the, you know whatwe're asking, dude.
Like, you know, it's like you are trying to squeeze money out
of our community and at our expense, correct?

(36:05):
Taxpayer dollars. And it's just, it's, it's
unacceptable. Yeah, it's, it's, I think it's
unacceptable. I think it's disgusting.
So absolutely, yeah. I mean, we'll keep our eye on
it. I just think that, hey, most of
us in Temecula are working classpeople.
You know, we do. We can.
We are all struggling. The economy sucks, but we're

(36:26):
working class people. We have healthcare.
If we have issues with our child, there are ways and
resources for us as parents to go about that.
The school district doesn't needto come in and act like, you
know what I mean? Like we all have counselors.
And school psychologists. And intermediate people in
between that and other services already in.

(36:47):
Schools exactly. So I would ask any board member,
if they think we need this, thenwhy do we need all that other
stuff? Then where does all that other
stuff that we fund and pay for and support and have like the
counselors and the services in the schools already?
Where has that failed? And and and maybe we need to get
rid of that then because like, you know, like this just seems

(37:09):
like an overreach. This this seems like extra.
And this seems to me that it's going to take away from the
focus of our school district, which is education, correct.
So I don't know. Yeah.
What else did you have on this, on this meeting?

(37:29):
Those were the two big things for me that the the board policy
that got rescinded and then the UHS thing that they didn't even
vote on and we couldn't even hear e-mail explain why.
Right. Which again, we're picking and
choosing who can and cannot speak when they can speak on it.
I understand there's certain things we couldn't violate with
the Brown Act. I don't have an issue with that.

(37:51):
But it's just very interesting to me how transparency is only
applicable if it makes somebody look good.
You know, it's like, if it was brought back, let's speak to it,
but oh, well, we're violating it.
Well, then how can we bring it back?
Like, yeah, trying to just make sense for us, yeah.
Just make clear it up. And it's like, it's like, who
agendized this? Yeah, if we if it can't be

(38:12):
agenda, right? Yeah, but but if it can't be
agendized again, then why? Like why are you wasting our
time? Because at the end of the day,
you cut our public comments to two minutes, correct?
And it's like, yeah, I mean, this thing, it just seems like a
bunch of incompetent people to be.
Honest. Unfortunately, that's what I
said. I'd rather just have a new
board. I'd rather have 5 new people

(38:34):
that have no clue what's going on, they don't know what to do,
and they have to figure it out together.
I almost feel like they'd be more productive because they'd
be helping each other figure it all out, you know?
Yeah, let's see. I did appreciate that everyone
was able to kind of come to somecommon ground and consensus on
changing verbiage on that policywith the whole like using

(39:01):
segregated, which has a negativeconnotation.
Steve was right about that. And so they were in agreeance
there. So that was great.
Let's see, I think that was it for that one.
And then we have just the special meeting.
Yeah, I mean, this meeting was was rather long.
A lot of people showed up and there was pretty.

(39:23):
And a lot left because they weretoo tired of waiting.
So only half of the people that were supposed to speak at the
end didn't. They didn't because they weren't
there. Yeah, and our time was still
cut. Yeah.
They wouldn't have had the threeminutes.
Anyways, it's, you know, it's, it's at a point where like I
don't even write my comment. I decide I'm not even going to
write comments anymore because Iwrite for three minutes
improvised and then I'm in the back having to like, how do I
clean it up? And then I'm like talking pets,

(39:44):
which. Is kind of inconsiderate too
because again, I didn't mind moving the comments to the end
because we're still allowed to speak, but it's like you should
still allow the the expected allotted time.
I understand they just have to get a consensus and they tell us
how long, but it's a kind of respect for the constituents
that did wait and you got your 3minutes.

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You should allot that to the public as well.
You know, I just, there's just so many little missteps that
become the big things overall and it's just hard to continue
giving the benefit of the doubt and having any respect for the
way that business is being conducted at this point.
Yeah, and and you know, look, I get it that emotions are high.
This is something else. This is something else that I

(40:26):
wanted to hit on. Now that we're talking about, it
is like, if you're going to cry,you shouldn't be at the helm.
You shouldn't be a leader. Like I'm sorry, but like sitting
up there on the dais and crying and bawling and it like

(40:47):
explaining yourself. It's like, I get it, It happens.
But it's not like she was cryingbecause somebody had passed some
crazy thing. She was crying because she felt
deep embarrassment on the failure of the decision that she
made. And she was crying partly, in my

(41:11):
opinion, because of how hard shehas gone at Jen and Joseph
Komrowski. And now she's the it's you know,
it's it was embarrassment. It was, it was embarrassment
that she was feeling. It wasn't like great grief, you
know what I mean? Like so it's like.

(41:32):
You didn't. Feel like run more yeah, I mean,
and. And you can cry and be like I'm
so sorry I made it, but it it wasn't that.
It was more like poor me. I tried my best.
Yeah. It's like, I would rather, I
would rather have a leader standup there and say, hey, we, we
made a mistake. We didn't make the right
decision, but we're, we're behind the right decision now.

(41:54):
And it's like, yeah, you know, and even.
Oh, my goodness there. There's actually more to this.
Actually, now that I'm OK, now that my, my now that my wheels
are spinning. Yeah, even Doctor Komarovsky was
like, look, I get it. This isn't like, this isn't like
fixing the problem. This is.
It's a band. Aid.
Yeah, yeah. And he's like, but I want to

(42:16):
stay here until we sort this out.
Which I was fine with too. We're already there.
Right. OK.
Emil Barham did not hear what hesaid at all.
Emil Barham heard what? He heard what his perception of
Doctor Komoroski would have said.

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He heard something that Doctor Komoroski didn't even say.
Emil Barham heard Doctor Komoroski say, this is not, this
is just a Band-Aid. We need to just full force, no
trans people in the girls bathrooms.
That's what Emil heard Doctor Komoroski say.
And then he tried to make him look stupid about it.
And Doctor Komoroski was like, Idon't even know what you're

(42:58):
talking about. You know what I mean?
It's like, dude, dude, we just. Slow down.
Yeah, but but you know when, like, you know when you're like,
if you're like somebody is like just, oh, totally just in the
red zone and you're talking and they're not listening.
Yeah, all the time, You know what I mean?
And it's like I'm like, yeah, we're.
Having two different conversations.
Yeah, yeah. It's like this whole thing when

(43:18):
we're like, hey, we our daughters actually have privacy
and we want their privacy respected.
You want trans people to die? Like that's like, like, yeah,
that's, that's how this is wholething is going.
Yeah. And that's what happened there
in that moment where it was likee-mail.
You didn't even listen, dude. You didn't even listen.
It's because. They're just none of them are in

(43:41):
a place fully. Again, this is just my
perception to just even fully receive and retain what is
happening. Everything is very impulsive.
And again, I think we're listening to respond rather than
listening to to hear and understand.
And we've gotten away from that too.
And not just with the the trustees on the dais with each

(44:03):
other, but even the public. Like, I think they're mishearing
the public half the time. Yeah, Because their minds are
just made-up already, you know? And it, like you said, emotions
are way too high. Yeah.
And again, a lot of it has to dowith the fact that we are in
international news and it's embarrassing.
And, and just, and in regards tothis policy, like I want, I also

(44:24):
would like to, I wanna, I know I've said this a bunch and I've
said it, but I can't say it enough because the narrative's
still being spun. Friggin Jen Reeves shows up and
just sits there for her TikTok content.
Poor lady's like 60 years old, dude.
She's someone's grand dude. Yeah, I'm pretty sure she's like
60. Pretty sure she's like 60 years

(44:45):
old. She's old enough to be someone's
grandma. And like, she shows up to our
board meeting to spew hate and and and call regular parents
bigots and and fascists. And, you know, that voice is
that that page Voices of the fash Jen Saint Nicholas.
Like we don't know that's you. Wow.

(45:06):
Yeah, it's OK that. Just makes it all the narrative
worse. Well, you know, it's funny is
because that Lady goes up there and talks like I'm just, I'm a
caring, loving person. Like you run voices of the fash
you've gone after. You've called everybody a
fascist. Yeah, everyone of us.
You've called us a fascist and aNazi.
You've been called. As.
Well. I won't repeat them here, but

(45:26):
you know, pretty nasty. No, that page, that and you
know, what's even hilarious to me is I'm pretty sure that page
has posted things making fun of me for being overweight.
And it's like, lady, no, you didn't.
No you didn't, dude. Oh my.
Goodness, holy shit. I just.

(45:47):
I think we need to look inward. We.
Really need to look inward and just take a beat that.
Is like wow person hates fat people.
That's what I was thinking. I'm watching all their clips
about with jam. This person hates fat people and
then I like realize who it is and I'm like this person has a
lot of self hate obviously. Jesus.
Typically projection. So I mean it makes sense.

(46:10):
Yeah, but so they these people, they show up and their
perspective is that we are denying the existence of trans
people and the fact that we haveadults in the room spinning that
narrative. They're they obviously see trans
people and tell them that and and stuff like that.

(46:30):
And it's like. People don't come up with that
stuff on. Their own.
But, but dude, how can you? Why would you tell a child that?
Yeah, why would you make them think that they're hated so
much? It's.
Because you want them to be a victim.
And that's how we got here in our country.
That's how we got to this point where people think we can use

(46:51):
violence to just shut people up.We're a victim.
And if you don't agree inside with us, then you need to die.
Like that is where we're at in our country.
So when adults continue to push that hateful rhetoric that, one,
isn't true and two, creates brainwashes a child to look at
society as their enemy. Yeah, Yeah.

(47:14):
Like, no wonder why we have thisgeneration of youthful people
who hate this country. We have a we have a generation
of adults who ruined it for all of us.
And now they're pushing that narrative.
You know what I mean? So it's just, look, this is not
about denying the existence of trans people.
Nobody is doing that in Temecula.

(47:37):
Nobody. Yeah, yeah.
And again, I'm sure there are people who will say, you know,
but again, I, I don't fuck with people like that.
That's not what I subscribe to. That's not what it's about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm, I'm straight like.
But here is The thing is, if youhave a trans child, you should

(47:58):
be telling them that. Nobody has to subscribe to how
they think. You should be telling them that,
hey, it is going to be hard out out here for you.
You will lose friends if you want to live like that because I
love you. I will support you.
But a lot of people won't. And you know what, in this
country, they don't have to. And that is the reality, you

(48:19):
know. And, and again, before anybody
puts their panties in a bunch over what I'm saying is like, I
raise my sons like that, OK, I explained to my sons, it is
different for you than your sister, OK?
The world doesn't care about your feelings and what you think
and your emotions. You either can or you can't.

(48:39):
You will or you won't. Men don't look at each other, at
each other through that lens. We just don't.
The world is built differently. Yes, we are.
We're built differently. The world, the world treats men
differently. Work hard.
Healthy coping mechanisms to deal.
With them, exactly. And that, yeah.
But don't make it your whole. World.
Exactly. Your whole identity is your

(49:01):
feelings. Exactly.
Your feelings are not your identity, dude, and you're going
to get bullied, you're going to get laughed at, you're going to
get made fun of. You can't let that phase you.
That is what we should be explaining to the trans youth.
They're accepted, they're loved,but not everybody's going to
play along or see it how they see it.

(49:23):
That doesn't mean that I deny their existence.
That doesn't mean that I want them dead.
You know, when that there was that one, the one trans boy, am
I saying that right? Yeah.
The trans boy who spoke at this meeting, there was the one trans
person who spoke. And it's so crazy is I, I saw

(49:45):
that person walking out of the of the meeting at the end and
they were walking out with the, the two women they were with and
we, and all like the conservatives were outside.
We had just finished like takinga photo.
So they seemed kind of and I walked right up to that.
What I'm trying to remember the name of the person.

(50:06):
Was it Sibby? Yeah, but it but I think, I
think that's who I didn't get the last name, but I understood
after 'cause my my daughter was like, was like, oh, that's, that
was one of my one of my substitute teachers.
And I didn't even know at the time, but I walked right up to
him and I said, Hey, thank you so much for speaking.

(50:26):
I know you and I don't fall on the same side of things, but I
would never deny your existence and I would actually die for you
to be here. So I would give my life and
like, I mean, that, dude, like, like this, this, this whole it,
it infuriates me when people like I I get it that people have

(50:47):
that perspective. But when people try to
categorize me as that just because it's like, bro, when
like when I went to Afghanistan,I didn't think to myself like,
except for the trans and the gays, like I'm not out here for
them. Like I I knew exactly.
Yeah, exactly where. Yeah.
Dude, you, you're, if you're born in this land, you and you
exercise your freedom of speech.I fuck with you.

(51:09):
That's it, period. I don't care what you believe,
where you're right, it doesn't matter.
I don't even care if I don't agree with you.
I don't care. And, and The thing is, is like,
no, I used to do that all the time when oh, Preston, when
Preston would show up, I would walk up to Preston and say, hey,
Preston, thanks for being here, man.
Thanks for giving your perspective.

(51:31):
Because it's hard being a young person and going up in front of
adults and knowing that you're going to have a position that
people don't agree with. That's hard.
We should be encouraging our youth to do more of that, you
know, so it's like I just yeah, dude, the the the whole entire
thing, the whole entire argument.

(51:51):
This is about girls privacy, OK,My daughter, my kids, our
children. Our world doesn't have to accept
the worldview of a demographic, and just because people want to
paint them as victims in our culture, that doesn't mean that

(52:12):
they get prioritized. And like, that is essentially
the argument and that is nonsense.
We don't have to subscribe to your stuff.
We don't OK? It's a courtesy if we do, OK.
And at the end of the day, if wehave people who are
uncomfortable in those spaces, then that needs to be

(52:34):
accommodated. And here's and here's another
thing is I do know people with trans kids and even those people
will tell, tell me that their child doesn't want to their
child doesn't feel comfortable changing in front of boys or
girls. And the beautiful thing about

(52:55):
this policy is they can fill it out too.
So if you have a trans child, maybe your kid isn't comfortable
yet changing and, you know, maybe in your space, yeah, in
any space, you can fill that outand they will accommodate you
specific to you. This is a neutral policy.
This isn't about denying anything.

(53:16):
It's only it is exclusively about highlighting the
importance of respecting each other's privacy which?
That shouldn't be an. Argument, it shouldn't be an
argument. And the fact that it's being
made into an argument is disgusting.
And anybody pushing that narrative like I just, I just
view you as as an enemy of America.
I view you as as as a war monger.

(53:38):
You just want drama. You want problems, you know.
Cut enough of those here, so let's mitigate some of that.
Yeah, I don't know, dude. What else?
I want to point out Miss Chai for being pretty much the only
professional in the room and having to tell the adults to

(54:00):
behave professionally and civilly with each other.
I commend her for standing her ground and being a voice for our
students because it's been missing for a long time.
We were just talking about our kids coming and speaking for
themselves and from their perspective, and to have a
representative for them is fantastic and I think she's
doing a great job, but it's alsoembarrassing that she has to

(54:23):
tell our trustees to act professionally.
Let's let's let's put that on real quick.
Someone like to make the motion?May I just oh.
Really quick. Oh my.
Goodness. Yes, and every time I'm going to
get you a little flag to hold up.
Sorry. Yeah.
All right, thank you. I mentioned this at our last

(54:45):
meeting, but as the student representative here, I tread
very carefully. My words reflect my own views,
but I do my absolute best to make sure I'm still representing
at least a large portion of the student body.
I've been a student in the district for the past 12 years,
so I hope you all listen to whatI have to say in the same way
that you have listened to the other students who have bravely
spoken tonight. This amendment was a change that

(55:07):
I, along with many other community members, recommended
be made to the original religious and mental health
accommodation during our last board meeting, and I appreciate
that this idea is being considered.
This type of accommodation offers the best of both worlds.
If a student has concerns about being in a shared facility for
any reason, they have the right to their own privacy, which is
great. This amendment addresses the

(55:28):
concerns of the public on both sides of the argument.
I just want to remind this room,including members of this board,
that we are here to better the lives and the education of the
students, not to push any political agenda.
This item has been overly politicized and escalated during
our last meeting and this one. We've gone on and on arguing
details about gender and biological sex, but this policy

(55:50):
is about privacy. I thank Mr. Schwartz for
bringing up the change of the language being used because that
has incited unnecessary division.
We're on the same side. We're all on the side of the
students, and if you're not, you're in the wrong place.
There's been a lot of disrespectin this room, both within the
audience and within the adults sitting beside me.
Years ago, I've sat in the audience.

(56:12):
I've given public comments in front of the board when I was
14. Now I've been elected to sit
here behind the dais and still disrespect gets us nowhere.
When the community continues to point point fingers at one
another, we lose sight of the reason we're here.
I hope we're able to come together and have productive
discussions from this point forward.
I don't know if she was reading from something or not.

(56:32):
I don't. I honestly didn't pay attention.
She's just so well spoken, but Idon't know, maybe she was, I
have no idea. I don't think so.
Chai for president. Yeah.
I'll tell you what you know. It's.
Amazing. And she's just a kid.
Yeah. You know, I think she's probably
like a junior senior now, maybe senior.
She's got a yeah, she's probably.
Still, it's just like, wow, there is no.

(56:53):
I was there is. Yeah, yeah, I was, I was, I was.
I was very impressed. And again, like, I don't, I, I,
I admire it goes back to what I was just saying is like, the
fact that someone young can stand on business like that is
that's the way it's supposed to be done, correct?

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And and she did, she pointed outhow embarrassing the adults
looked in the room. And yeah, that was pretty fun.
I was like. Wow, she's amazing but also this
is embarrassing. Wow, a child had to tell you to
behave? Yikes.
So you want to talk a little bitabout the special meeting?

(57:35):
You got anything about that? It's.
Let's see. This was this last Tuesday, yes.
This last on the 17th. Yeah.
So I I made it to that meeting as well.
You did? Yeah.
You know, what really bothered me is there's there was two

(57:57):
people there. Well, there, there was a couple
of people there to oppose it. One lady I've never seen before,
but she looked right at me and went hi.
Like before the meeting. I was like, hi, I'm like, what
the hell? She's the lady that like got
kicked out. She like calls the scene and got
kicked out which. One was that.

(58:18):
You know, I'll play it for the listeners so they could check it
out. She calls the scene and got
kicked out and I and I, I actually got, I actually got
some recording. I'll splice the 2 and so so they
could check it out. My beliefs are not like that.
My beliefs are that I am a God fearing patriot and I love God,
family and country. I want men to be men, stand up

(58:40):
men and do the right thing to protect your families.
I want There you go. You're objectively disturbing
the meeting and this is exactly what I'm talking about, this
divisiveness. Thank you for leaving.
You're welcome. How mature about?
Community, this is the exact divisiveness I am talking about.

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But then there there are two younger people, and I've seen
them before, a boy and a girl. You know, if I had to guess,
maybe they're in their 20s, early 20s.
I don't know, maybe not. But like, you know, we do the
Pledge of Allegiance and they'rejust sitting there.
You know what I mean? Like they didn't stand.

(59:27):
They don't stand. It's and that's, and I've seen
them before, like when we were at when we were doing the recall
board meetings. Oh, this?
Was a while ago that they've notshowed.
Up. Yeah.
I haven't seen them since the recall meetings and and they
were sitting right in front of me and they didn't stand then
either. Indivisible with liberty and
justice for all. Not even standing, sitting next

(59:50):
to Voices of the Flash. So I don't know who those people
are, but yeah, that that look you bothers me a lot.
Here's The thing is you have your right to do that.
That's fine. That's fine.
You know what I mean? That doesn't mean that like.
I'm not bothered by it, you knowwhat I mean?
A little bit, a little bit. But also really what it is is

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this. And this is more like, I kind of
expect it from the girl sitting there with purple hair, you know
what I mean? But it's the dude sitting next
to her, 'cause it's like, here'shere's the reality is that if we
were at a fucking Dodgers game, you wouldn't do that.
You wouldn't fucking do that. If you were, if you were in a
room with a bunch of men, men, you would not fucking do that

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because you know, you might be corrected right there on the
spot and you might be embarrassed and you would be
afraid to do that. So the fact that this young man
chooses to do that, it's just it's pure weakness.
It's following femininity. And and it's it's being done to
like virtue signal. Like nobody will say anything to
me here. But you know damn well that you

(01:00:56):
don't purposely stay seated whenyou're at an event where there
are people, men you don't know that might say something, a man
that might smack the fuck out ofyou.
So yeah, I mean, that's just my position.
And I said it before me episodesago.
I brought brought this up how how it's unfortunate that that's

(01:01:19):
how people act, you know, and then to do it right after, you
know, what just happened on top of that, you know, it's just
like, you know, that's that shit, man.
That's that shit that I don't get.
I don't either. As an American, I don't
understand that. The beautiful part of this
country is that we can all have any opinion we want.

(01:01:41):
We can say and do whatever we want, but that's not free
without consequence. And I think that that has also
been something that people have been confused by this last week
and 1/2 or two. We have freedom to do whatever
we want, but we're not free fromany consequences.
And you're kind of stating that it's like you will be held
accountable at some level or to some degree for being

(01:02:02):
disrespectful. And some people may say that
they don't see it that way. That's fine.
Again, we're we're basing these things off of opinion, but as an
American I just, I don't understand it.
Yeah, yeah. And then I, I also got some
footage. It's.
I don't know, I'm not going to put it on here, but maybe I'll
save it for a post where Doctor K was talking about the Charlie

(01:02:25):
Kirk thing. Or I think Jen Weirsman was,
somebody was. And they were like, they were
like snickering and laughing, you know?
Yeah, Yeah. That's disgusting.
I mean, you know, and it's and, you know, and I'm in the back
with Melanie and the baby, you know what I mean?
So it's like, you know, like youjust, you just, you just don't
have general respect for anything, right?
Like I said earlier, we're losing our humanity.

(01:02:46):
It's the same, Yeah. I mean, it's just it's just
disgusting and like as much I don't know in regards to our
country, like as much as like I'm down with cracking skulls,
dude. Like I've apologized in Group
messages that I'm in because I do like if somebody online

(01:03:06):
challenges me to a fight, I accept it, dude.
Like I, I'm, I am so down with that and that's not the way to
do it right of. Course violence.
Shouldn't be the answer to that,but unfortunately it is.
It is something that I'm very comfortable I'm I'm I am better
in a in a violent situation thanI would be in like a a math test

(01:03:27):
and I'm an engineer. So that's saying something, you
know what I mean, is like my whole point with bringing this
up is like, I've been battling with this whole thing like the
Antifa people, you know, and it's like that's still our
youth. It's these 23 year old kids that
feel disenfranchised and hated. And at what point do do all

(01:03:53):
Americans, including me, take ownership of their feelings
there? You know what I mean?
Like the grouper demographic andAntifa, they're they have the
same hate for our country, just on different sides of the coin,
you know? And, you know, it's like, I
don't want to smash the skull ofmy little brother, bro.

(01:04:14):
I don't want to do that, you know?
And that's like, yeah, we got tofigure something out just as a
country, our youth feels disenfranchised.
I mean, that's and why? Yeah, yeah.
And and and why, why is it that the the hateful rhetoric and the
negative rhetoric is is winning?Why is it that the anti American
rhetoric is winning? Why are these kids so

(01:04:36):
comfortable sitting for the national anthem as if they're
actually standing for something when there are people, hundreds
of thousands of people who've given their life for that?
You know, so it's like, what arewe doing wrong?
What are we teaching? That is the problem.
Like the, and these are all things that I think about where

(01:04:58):
it's like, this is, this is the CRT argument.
This is like, this is what I'm talking about.
It's that you're a victim, so you should hate everyone around
you. It's it's that rhetoric has been
winning, it's dangerous, but it has been winning.
It has been winning and we need to find a way to combat that.
Yeah, to neutralize. It to neutralize it, it's

(01:05:19):
insane. And if we can avoid violence,
that would be ideal. That's ideal, you know, But I
just, I just, I worry, 'cause I don't even know if that's
possible at this point, you know?
I don't know either. Yeah, I really don't.
Sorry I went on a tangent, but what else did you have about
that meeting? I think the main thing was just

(01:05:44):
it was a resolution, right? Yeah, it was.
I don't have that agenda with me.
I wrote it down. I'm getting there.
Amicus briefus. Amicus brief.
Yeah, amicus brief. Yes, it was to.
Basically what that means is just writing a formal letter.

(01:06:05):
As school board, they're trying to get consensus to write a
letter to Sacramento. The only issue that I have was
it to Sacramento or is it for the like federal case?
Oh, I'm sorry stuff. It's it's federal.
Yeah, my mistake. But but either way, like I, I
think that the the only thing we.
Talked about that in the last episode as well, which is kind

(01:06:26):
of ironic. Yeah, well, you know, Emil
stepped down. He like excused himself and like
left. During.
Oh, that's right. That's right.
Yeah. Because.
He wanted to have an open transparency dialogue regarding
closed session about this, but because there's potential
litigation, they weren't able todo.
That Yeah. Well, also, he he did.

(01:06:48):
He was saying that he hasn't even been able to review them.
No one's seen the actual. Amicus brief.
So that's kind of my thing too, is like, you know, you're,
you're, you're asking us. To vote on something we.
Haven't seen what you present usto look at.
Is the agreement with the legal firm.
It's like, no, I want to see thebrief that they're going to be
presented. Out of that whole mess with them

(01:07:09):
anyways. And and here's The thing is
like, you know, for all we know,I'm about to maybe I cut this
for all we know, that amicus brief can completely deny the
right and existence of trans people for all we know, you know
what I mean? So for all we know, it's like,
no, no, no, no, I don't. Yeah.
It's like, I don't feel this. I like, this isn't how I feel or

(01:07:31):
how I view the world, you know what I mean?
So, you know, I think we have togive a lot of grace to those
three up there, which I don't really, you know, I don't know,
dude. We'll see.
We'll see how it all plays out. But yeah, that was my only.

(01:07:51):
And it still bothers me. Like thinking about it is like,
why aren't you showing me what it is we're getting behind.
Instead, you're giving me the. Where's the transparency?
Yeah, it's like, you know. I don't understand it.
Why are we picking and choosing?They voted on something only.
You need to see it first. Can you imagine you getting
married to a man and then he's like, you don't even, you don't

(01:08:15):
even know what's going on. He's just like, here, sign this
guy that we're going to hire to do the proceedings.
You're like, what proceedings? Don't worry about that.
Just this, this guy, yeah, this guy's going to, you know, it's
like, dude, we got to, we need transparency.
We got to see. So, yeah, I don't know.
It got passed anyways. Which is wild to me.

(01:08:38):
Yeah. Whether you agree with the the
law firm or the intent behind it, we didn't see anything that
should bother everyone. Regardless on what side of the
aisle you're on. We need to see what we're voting
on. Can you imagine putting in a
ballot and just filling in bubbles and having no clue who

(01:08:59):
you're voting for? That's why.
Right, right. And you know, I voted for Doctor
Ki like Jen Weirsma. I don't, I don't have any
personal issues with them. But yeah, like I'm, I'm big on
transparency. People were there and they're
upset. And you could have provided the
document that maybe neutralized the arguments that they had, but

(01:09:20):
you didn't and. They probably wouldn't have
excused himself, he would have just voted.
On it, Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
So it's just, and again, is thissomething that they did?
Because it's one of those thingswhere Doctor K and Jen Weirsmer
are like, well, we were get get kept out of everything.
So they don't need to see it either.
You know what I mean? Is this like one of those
things? I don't know, I don't know.
I'm just. I'm not for the tit for tat.

(01:09:42):
Thing either let's stop, yeah, let's just yeah.
And again, this whole damage control narrative, everyone is
just trying to, like, contain a fire that has already spread.
Yeah, there's no containing it. There's no fixing it.
All we can do is move forward. Yeah, Yep.
So I don't know guys, that's what's been going on in

(01:10:05):
Temecula, a lot of craziness, a lot of hecticness.
I hopefully we do get to see thethe amicus brief and what it is
that it specifically says and I don't know, we'll see what comes
out in October, I guess. We we never know what we're

(01:10:27):
gonna get until it comes, so everyone's guess is as good as
ours until we get there. Yeah, All right, dude, That's
all I got. You got anything?
No, no. All right, guys.
Well, thank you so much for tuning in again.
God bless and we'll see you later.