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May 14, 2025 48 mins

Technology alone won’t transform policing — but how you use it will. In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley explores the mindset shift that’s helping law enforcement agencies maximize impact: using layered technology, shared intelligence and integrated systems to solve crimes faster and respond more effectively — no matter the department’s size.

He talks with two leaders tackling this issue from very different ends of the policing spectrum: Deputy Chief John McMahon of the Los Angeles Police Department and Chief Brian Bubar of the San Pablo Police Department.

Deputy Chief McMahon brings a big-city perspective, where 4.5 million people and 8,800 officers demand tech-driven efficiency.

Meanwhile, Chief Bubar commands a 62-sworn department covering just 2.6 square miles — but with a history as one of the most violent cities per capita, he’s using layered tech solutions to punch above his weight. Together, they explore how their agencies are using software platforms like Peregrine to unify data, why interoperability is critical to public safety and how real-time intelligence can’t be limited by jurisdictional lines.

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