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August 1, 2025 29 mins

In this episode, host Amri Johnson delivers a powerful season finale reflecting on Season 2's groundbreaking conversations, Johnson challenges core assumptions about diversity work and introduces controversial perspectives on why focusing on racial differences may be counterproductive to anti-racism goals.

Key Discussion Points:

- Move from cataloging differences to reducing distance between humans

- Racialization may perpetuate the foundation of racism itself

- Both DEI advocates and opponents use vague rhetoric preventing real dialogue

- Practitioners need accountability ("skin in the game") for integrity

- Current challenges represent evolution, not rejection of inclusion

🔥 Standout Quotes:

"The focus we've had on anti-racism in the Kendi and DiAngelo sense wasn't resonating with me for quite some time." [00:07:00]

"I have almost 25 years of skin in this game. Skin in the game is about having something to lose when you're wrong." [00:23:00]

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