Reconstructing Inclusion with Amri B. Johnson
Season 2, Episode 6: Moving Beyond the DEI (and Anti-DEI) Bandwagon in 2025
📝 Episode Description:
In this episode, Amri explores why traditional DEI approaches are failing organizations and introduces the Emergent Inclusion Framework - a new paradigm for creating sustainable, inclusive cultures. Learn how to move beyond bandwagon solutions and build organizations that generate "thick value" and thrive through change.
⏱️ Time Stamps:
[00:00:00] - Introduction and context of DEI's evolution since 2021
[00:01:00] - The transition of DEI consultants and practitioners
[00:02:00] - Understanding historical challenges in DEI
[00:03:00] - The bandwagon effect explained
[00:05:00] - Introduction to "thick value" concept
[00:07:00] - The Emergent Inclusion Framework explained
[00:09:00] - Relational fitness and organizational change
[00:11:00] - Building trust through transparency
[00:12:00] - New initiatives and resources announcement
[00:13:00] - Special announcement about upcoming project
🔑 Key Concepts Discussed:
- The bandwagon effect in DEI initiatives
- Thick value and its role in organizational culture
- Anti-fragility in organizational development
- Relational fitness
- The Emergent Inclusion Framework
- Building trust through transparency
- Future-fit organizations
📚 Resources Mentioned:
Book: "Reconstructing Inclusion" by Amri B. Johnson
Book: "Diversity and Complexity" by Scott E. Page
Systemic Inclusion Survey™ - A free diagnostic tool to assess your organization's current inclusion practices and identify areas for improvement.
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