Recovery Lab

What are the 12 steps, really, and why do people in recovery talk about them like their lives depend on them?

In Episode #140 of Recovery Lab, Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson break down the 12 steps in plain language for people who may not be in addiction recovery themselves, but want to understand what this process actually is and why it matters so much.

This episode walks step by step through the spiritual principles,...

In Episode 139 of The Recovery Lab Podcast, David Sugg and Brynn Knox welcome back Kirk Hartley for part 2 of his powerful story. If you missed part 1, go back and listen to Episode 136 first.

In this deeply moving conversation, Kirk shares what it looked like to walk through unimaginable loss while staying sober. He opens up about the death of his son, the healing and reconciliation he experienced with his father before his passin...

In Episode 138 of Recovery Lab, David Sugg sits down with Dedria Black, Executive Director of Harbor House Chemical Dependency Services, Jacqueline Lampley, Assistant Executive Director, and Chris Bates for a powerful conversation about the real work of recovery in Mississippi.

With Brynn at home caring for a sick family this week, the discussion dives deep into the mission of Harbor House, a long-standing treatment organization th...

Welcome back to The Recovery Lab, where we dive deep into the struggles, victories, and hope that stem from recovery: no shame, no judgment, just truth, grace, and inspiration.

On Episode 137, it’s just Brynn and Daniel in the studio today, as David Sugg is out sick. Feel better soon, brother.

Today’s guest is Daniel Phyfer, a man who has told his story publicly, felt the weight of that vulnerability, and kept showing up anyway. Da...

On part 1 of episode 136 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson welcome Kirk Hartley to the Audio Alchemy studios for a heartfelt and honest conversation about long term sobriety and service.

Kirk humbly describes himself as “just an ole garden variety drunk and junkie,” but his story tells a much deeper story of transformation and purpose. Sober since July 6, 1986, Kirk shares the journey that car...

On Episode #135 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson sit down with someone who quietly carries an enormous impact in the Jackson recovery community, Paxton Peters.

As the office manager of Jackson Mississippi’s AA Central Office, Paxton has been a steady voice, a listening ear, and a compassionate guide for hundreds, if not thousands, of people searching for hope. Every phone call answered, every...

In this episode of Recovery Lab, David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Hall Ratcliffe, Marketing Outreach Director at Capstone Wellness, a treatment center dedicated to adolescents and young adults ages 14 to 28.

Together, they dive into the unique challenges today’s young people are facing, from trauma and addiction to the deep impact of family systems and generational patterns. Hall shares how Capstone approac...

What if recovery wasn’t just about getting by, but about finally living a life you don’t feel the need to escape from?

In Episode 133 of Recovery Lab, David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson sit down with therapist Jessica Chapman Lott, LCSW, for a powerful and compassionate conversation about what true healing really looks like.

Jessica works with people who are exhausted from carrying everything alone. The ones battling addic...

In this Recovery Lab conversation, David Sugg, Brynn Knox and Daniel Anderson reflect on their highs, lows and lessons of 2025. David celebrates 16 years of sobriety, and the group talks openly about what growth, challenges and community support looked like over the past year. They also share the hopes and goals shaping their lives and recovery journeys in 2026.

This episode is brought to you by Fondren Recovery Homes in Jackson Mi...

In episode number 131 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, hosts David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Mississippi native Jay Carr to explore his remarkable journey of recovery and self-awareness.

Jay brings a singer’s approach to fitness, wellness, and efficiency of movement. With degrees in Vocal Performance from Mississippi College and Brooklyn College Conservatory of Music, along with certifications in Personal Tr...

In episode 130, David Sugg and Daniel Anderson sit down with Jordan Jones, Founder and CEO of Holos. With 20 years of service as a Special Forces Medical Sergeant, Jordan has seen firsthand how high-stress environments shape and strain the mind, body and spirit. Today, he works with military personnel, first responders, executives, and other high-performance professionals to help them build true resilience, recover well, and sustai...

Daniel Anderson and David Sugg welcome Mississippi State Representative Sam Creekmore to Recovery Lab for a candid and forward looking conversation about mental health and addiction in Mississippi. Rep Creekmore shares what is actually happening with the state’s opioid settlement money, how it is being allocated, the priorities on prevention, treatment, recovery supports, and accountability, and where he believes the most impact ca...

In episode 127 of the Recovery Lab Podcast, hosts Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Dr. Mark Hrymoc to explore his experience treating individuals suffering from depression using ketamine. The conversation dives into the science, patient experiences, and evolving perspectives surrounding this treatment.

At Recovery Lab, we’re curious about all things recovery. Our discussions are meant to inform and explor...

In this episode of the Recovery Lab Podcast, Brynn Knox, Daniel Anderson, and David Sugg sit down with Gregory Greer, Clinical Director and primary counselor at Red Hill Recovery. Gregory has dedicated his life to helping people break free from alcoholism, addiction, and codependent relationships while guiding them toward healthier connections and deeper spirituality.

Gregory emphasizes the power of group therapy in recovery, while...

Today on Recovery Lab, Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Chris and Bob. Their son, Nick, was featured in Episode 124, and in this heartfelt conversation, the couple share what it’s like on the other side of a loved one’s addiction. They open up about the profound impact Nar-Anon had in teaching them to detach with love, while remaining deeply connected and hopeful. Hear how Nick’s path has evolved—from the d...

In this power-packed episode of Recovery Lab, Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Nick Spradley, the dynamic Director of Shower Power in Jackson, Mississippi. Nick shares a riveting journey from the depths of incarceration to a thriving path of long-term sobriety, fueled by resilience, community, and a relentless commitment to helping others heal. Hear how his strategic thinking, project leadership, and Certif...

In this episode, hosts David Sugg, Brynn Knox, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Bryan Hubbard, the inaugural CEO of Americans for Ibogaine, to explore his mission to expand education, access, and responsible pathways for ibogaine as a potential therapeutic option for brain injuries, substance use disorders, and co-occurring mental health conditions.

Bryan brings decades of leadership at the intersection of law, public policy, and ...

In this heartfelt episode of the Recovery Lab Podcast, hosts Brynn Knox, David Sugg, and Daniel Anderson sit down with Kim and Richard Johnson. Three years ago, they lost their daughter to fentanyl poisoning, a tragedy that forever changed their lives.

Kim and Richard share how their grief has turned into a mission of awareness and hope. They talk about their upcoming Fentanyl Awareness Walk, happening this Saturday, September 20 f...

In Episode 121 hosts Brynn Knox David Sugg and Daniel Anderson sit down with Jeremiah Wheeler to dive into his powerful new book, The Unlikely Executive: From Dope and Despair to Leadership and Legacy. Jeremiah opens up about the lowest chapters of his life, the turning points that sparked change, and the daily disciplines of intentionality, accountability, and purpose that carried him from rock bottom to the executive suite.

Now P...