November 3, 2025 • 6 mins
Thanks to these industry leaders for speaking with me for my 2025 Knowledge Management & Innovation for Legal (KM&I) conference mixtape:
Michelle Gleason, Regional Sales Manager at LexisNexis, Conan Hines, Director of Practice Innovation at Fried Frank, Kevin Klein, Co-Founder at Legal Tech Connect, Katya Linossi, Co-Founder and CEO at Atlas by ClearPeople, Kyle Poe, VP of Legal Innovation and Strategy at Legora Daniel Porus, Chief Commercial Officer at Legatics, Maureen Schlade, Director of Key Accounts at LexisNexis, Ryan Steadman, Global Commercial Leader at Epiq Law Advisory, and Ben Wightwick, Chief Commercial Officer at Autologix.Mark as Played
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(00:00):
This is Ari Kaplan at theKnowledge Management and
(00:03):
Innovation for Legal Conference.
Ben wwe, chief CommercialOfficer at Auto Logics.
Kaen Heim, director of PracticeInnovation at Fried Frank in New York.
Daniel Porous, chiefCommercial Officer at Logix.
So ka, I'm the co-founder andCEO of cus Intelligent Knowledge.
Kevin Klein, co-founder,legal Tech Connect.
(00:25):
Kyle fo, VP of LegalInnovation and Strategy at MCs.
My name is Maureen Sch Slade, and I'm thedirector of Key Accounts for LexiNexis.
I'm Michelle Gleason.
I'm the regional salesmanager at LexisNexis.
Ryan Steadman, epic Law AdvisoryGlobal Commercial Leader.
What's your objective in attendingboth KM and I and Legal Tech Connect?
(00:48):
What will you be speaking aboutAt the KM and I conference?
What legal tech challenges isyour team being asked to solve?
What are you looking forward to at thisyear's KM and I for legal conference?
What are your expectations forthe very first legal tech Connect?
How are you seeing law firmseffectively deploying generative ai?
(01:09):
How should knowledge managementprofessionals integrate
AI into their portfolios?
How can KM leaders quantifythe value of new technology?
What questions are you getting aboutnavigating change in legal today?
Honestly, the biggest thing for me aboutall of these things is meeting humans.
I spend a lot of time talking topeople, but actually connecting
(01:32):
and seeing people face to face isreally important in what we do.
And we lost a little bit of that and it'sreally good that we're bringing it back.
And what Patrick and Kevin are doing incombining the two events is really great.
So, really looking forward to it.
Gonna get people to work on theirelevator pitches and their value
proposition to firm leadership.
We're at a place now whereyears ago the tech wasn't ready.
(01:54):
Now it's ready, but how do we getit actually used and not just an
answer to a client questionnaire?
I think the big thing at the momentis how do we support with implement
an adoption of new technology,particularly when there is so much
happening in the space at the moment.
And there's a lot of momentumaround the AI products and
there's huge potential there.
(02:16):
That's still so much opportunitywith some of the core products
and solutions as well.
And some of the challenges are actuallyabout bandwidth and , how do we continue
to maintain that when there's onlyso much bandwidth from the attorneys
themselves and internally helpingcan you support them to continue with
the momentum of some of the existingsolutions, and also bringing in some
of the core legal tech solutions aswell as the really big, exciting AI
(02:36):
products that are coming in as well.
Connecting with the KM communityis gonna be the most number part
of it, especially in the usaid.
Getting to know the people herehas been brilliant and then
also engaging that community.
We have our own community that we doand the run events on a regular basis.
So just seeing like rural is awesome.
(02:56):
And Debbie, looking forward to the next.
Prize presentations.
In fact, we've got two of our customersshort listed, Ravi Ronan and MTO,
hoping that these two events andthese two cohorts intermingle
and get to know one another.
Quite a bit of overlap in synergyso that's for day one, get everyone
to be familiar with one anotherand spread out and explore.
(03:19):
All of the networking is combined.
And we do have these ribbons.
The blue ribbons are the cam andeye event, the green ribbons,
legal tech connect, and thepurple ribbons are the crossover.
We've got about a hundred people onthe Legal Tech Connect side and about
200 people on the km and I side.
Hopefully we can get some good crosspollination between the two events and
surprise a few people with gifting thema purple ribbon to have them see some of
(03:42):
the content on Legal Tech Connect site.
This is the billion dollar questionthat everybody's trying to figure out.
What everybody's finding in the industryis you had gone back a year ago, people
thought it was gonna be more automatic.
Like you were gonna enable these LLMs,you weren't gonna need prompt hearing.
We need a lot less support.
But what firms have found, whatwe found in before, is that it
requires a lot more handholding.
(04:03):
And I think what previously peoplewould've thought, so the technology
gets you maybe 30% of the way there,but it's really about enablement.
So what we've done here, LaVar, ishiring, scores of legal engineers.
These are former practicing attorneys,three years to seven years into practice,
and we're deploying them forward deployedengineer type model into law firms
to really work with specific practiceareas to figure out their workflows
(04:24):
that really are gonna work for them, andthen get them deployed up and running so
that they can follow a walk, run, fly.
I think knowledge professionalsshould integrate AI
thoughtfully and deliberately.
It's definitely the way thatLexus has been going about it.
There's tremendous content both externallyand internally in law firms across the
country, and leveraging AI to deliverinsights faster, efficiently for their
(04:49):
attorneys is really the main goal ofboth KM teams and Lexus these days.
New technology that's gonna be focusedon in this conference is ai, and we
all know that the investment for AIis substantially higher than previous
technology releases, so you gotta workclosely with your vendors to be able to
(05:11):
quantify the savings, the efficiencies,and the accuracy that AI brings.
A couple of things to look at isjust comparing what AI brings to your
process, to the old way of doing.
You can work with Lexus, we've gotforester studies, we've got total economic
impact of both the investment and thenhow long it takes to recruit that address.
(05:35):
And we can help you sharethat with firm leader share
firms are really trying to understandand find the signal and the noise
around AI platforms, how to be moreefficient and effective with the
whole other business processes.
What epic Law Firm Advisory is doingis helping firms and firm leaders
(05:56):
find some of the signal in that noise.
There's just so much going on in theindustry, and we're helping bring a
little bit of direction, almost as a GPSto some of those law firms to figure out
where to invest their money, where toinvest their time, resources, and also
importantly, where to invest in people.
Ben, thank you.
(06:16):
Awesome, Conan.
Thank you.
Thank you, Ari.
Daniel, thank you.
Thank you, Katya.
Thank you.
Oh, my pleasure, Kevin.
Thank you.
And best of luck.
Thank you, Kyle.
Thank you.
Thank you, Maureen.
Thank you.
Welcome.
Have a good night, Michelle.
Thank you.
Thank you, Ari Ryan.
Thank you.
Thanks, Ari.
This is Ari Kaplan at theKnowledge Management and
(00:03):
Innovation for Legal Conference.
Ben wwe, chief CommercialOfficer at Auto Logics.
Kaen Heim, director of PracticeInnovation at Fried Frank in New York.
Daniel Porous, chiefCommercial Officer at Logix.
So ka, I'm the co-founder andCEO of cus Intelligent Knowledge.
Kevin Klein, co-founder,legal Tech Connect.
(00:25):
Kyle fo, VP of LegalInnovation and Strategy at MCs.
My name is Maureen Sch Slade, and I'm thedirector of Key Accounts for LexiNexis.
I'm Michelle Gleason.
I'm the regional salesmanager at LexisNexis.
Ryan Steadman, epic Law AdvisoryGlobal Commercial Leader.
What's your objective in attendingboth KM and I and Legal Tech Connect?
(00:48):
What will you be speaking aboutAt the KM and I conference?
What legal tech challenges isyour team being asked to solve?
What are you looking forward to at thisyear's KM and I for legal conference?
What are your expectations forthe very first legal tech Connect?
How are you seeing law firmseffectively deploying generative ai?
(01:09):
How should knowledge managementprofessionals integrate
AI into their portfolios?
How can KM leaders quantifythe value of new technology?
What questions are you getting aboutnavigating change in legal today?
Honestly, the biggest thing for me aboutall of these things is meeting humans.
I spend a lot of time talking topeople, but actually connecting
(01:32):
and seeing people face to face isreally important in what we do.
And we lost a little bit of that and it'sreally good that we're bringing it back.
And what Patrick and Kevin are doing incombining the two events is really great.
So, really looking forward to it.
Gonna get people to work on theirelevator pitches and their value
proposition to firm leadership.
We're at a place now whereyears ago the tech wasn't ready.
(01:54):
Now it's ready, but how do we getit actually used and not just an
answer to a client questionnaire?
I think the big thing at the momentis how do we support with implement
an adoption of new technology,particularly when there is so much
happening in the space at the moment.
And there's a lot of momentumaround the AI products and
there's huge potential there.
(02:16):
That's still so much opportunitywith some of the core products
and solutions as well.
And some of the challenges are actuallyabout bandwidth and , how do we continue
to maintain that when there's onlyso much bandwidth from the attorneys
themselves and internally helpingcan you support them to continue with
the momentum of some of the existingsolutions, and also bringing in some
of the core legal tech solutions aswell as the really big, exciting AI
(02:36):
products that are coming in as well.
Connecting with the KM communityis gonna be the most number part
of it, especially in the usaid.
Getting to know the people herehas been brilliant and then
also engaging that community.
We have our own community that we doand the run events on a regular basis.
So just seeing like rural is awesome.
(02:56):
And Debbie, looking forward to the next.
Prize presentations.
In fact, we've got two of our customersshort listed, Ravi Ronan and MTO,
hoping that these two events andthese two cohorts intermingle
and get to know one another.
Quite a bit of overlap in synergyso that's for day one, get everyone
to be familiar with one anotherand spread out and explore.
(03:19):
All of the networking is combined.
And we do have these ribbons.
The blue ribbons are the cam andeye event, the green ribbons,
legal tech connect, and thepurple ribbons are the crossover.
We've got about a hundred people onthe Legal Tech Connect side and about
200 people on the km and I side.
Hopefully we can get some good crosspollination between the two events and
surprise a few people with gifting thema purple ribbon to have them see some of
(03:42):
the content on Legal Tech Connect site.
This is the billion dollar questionthat everybody's trying to figure out.
What everybody's finding in the industryis you had gone back a year ago, people
thought it was gonna be more automatic.
Like you were gonna enable these LLMs,you weren't gonna need prompt hearing.
We need a lot less support.
But what firms have found, whatwe found in before, is that it
requires a lot more handholding.
(04:03):
And I think what previously peoplewould've thought, so the technology
gets you maybe 30% of the way there,but it's really about enablement.
So what we've done here, LaVar, ishiring, scores of legal engineers.
These are former practicing attorneys,three years to seven years into practice,
and we're deploying them forward deployedengineer type model into law firms
to really work with specific practiceareas to figure out their workflows
(04:24):
that really are gonna work for them, andthen get them deployed up and running so
that they can follow a walk, run, fly.
I think knowledge professionalsshould integrate AI
thoughtfully and deliberately.
It's definitely the way thatLexus has been going about it.
There's tremendous content both externallyand internally in law firms across the
country, and leveraging AI to deliverinsights faster, efficiently for their
(04:49):
attorneys is really the main goal ofboth KM teams and Lexus these days.
New technology that's gonna be focusedon in this conference is ai, and we
all know that the investment for AIis substantially higher than previous
technology releases, so you gotta workclosely with your vendors to be able to
(05:11):
quantify the savings, the efficiencies,and the accuracy that AI brings.
A couple of things to look at isjust comparing what AI brings to your
process, to the old way of doing.
You can work with Lexus, we've gotforester studies, we've got total economic
impact of both the investment and thenhow long it takes to recruit that address.
(05:35):
And we can help you sharethat with firm leader share
firms are really trying to understandand find the signal and the noise
around AI platforms, how to be moreefficient and effective with the
whole other business processes.
What epic Law Firm Advisory is doingis helping firms and firm leaders
(05:56):
find some of the signal in that noise.
There's just so much going on in theindustry, and we're helping bring a
little bit of direction, almost as a GPSto some of those law firms to figure out
where to invest their money, where toinvest their time, resources, and also
importantly, where to invest in people.
Ben, thank you.
(06:16):
Awesome, Conan.
Thank you.
Thank you, Ari.
Daniel, thank you.
Thank you, Katya.
Thank you.
Oh, my pleasure, Kevin.
Thank you.
And best of luck.
Thank you, Kyle.
Thank you.
Thank you, Maureen.
Thank you.
Welcome.
Have a good night, Michelle.
Thank you.
Thank you, Ari Ryan.
Thank you.
Thanks, Ari.
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