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Everyone, welcome to the RV rental secrets podcast this week.
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I'm here again with my co host Gar Russell, and we're going to be talking about homeschooling.
.999I've seen a lot of your posts recently, Gar, that you just started up your new school year.
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So I thought it would be a good topic.
Yeah.
We just started yesterday.
We've been homeschooling since the day we started schooling.
Our oldest is 15.
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We've got 15, 13, nine, and seven.
Wow, that's amazing.
So I have a six year old, 11 year old, and a 13 year old.
.999We homeschooled during the pandemic for two years, and now this fall, actually next month, we're gonna be again homeschooling again as we travel across the United States.
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So I'm really excited to dig into this topic.
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I like it.
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So you're not really homeschooling then, you're, road schooling, Stacy.
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You know, we're going to be visiting a lot of national parks and incorporating, museums into our homeschooling so that they're kind of learning more hands on and really getting that That view of the world that you can't see from just reading a book.
So I'm excited about that.
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.002It makes me think of when we were traveling, we had a very important stop in our homeschooling journey.
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We stopped at the first Kentucky Fried Chicken that there ever was.
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I mean, that's something you don't forget.
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That's a memory.
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Yeah, definitely.
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I mean, what's more educational than that? Yeah, I mean, we got to see where the colonel slept and right inside his little business and all the things.
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So anyway.
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Now I've seen like a lot of entrepreneurs post how they're homeschooling their kids.
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And I feel like By homeschooling, you're almost giving them like a leg up to become an entrepreneur.
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Like, how do you feel about that? Oh, yeah, you totally are.
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Yeah, because us being an entrepreneurial family with our homeschooling, we're always thinking from a entrepreneurial standpoint.
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You know, not just we're not like my kids.
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So our Emma, she went into a regular school system for about six weeks.
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And then we pulled her out and she had to learn how to school.
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And so basically what she had to, she had to learn how to memorize something, to take a test, to check the box, to forget it, to memorize the new set of information, you know, and as a homeschooler, it's just not like that.
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You know, we're, writing papers and doing presentations and there's no check a box and this and that.
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And, and that's the entrepreneurial journey too, right? Her.
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You're doing sales, so you're learning how to communicate, customer service, and overcome objections, and even like the math that our kids do, they're not learning algebra, calculus, whatever the other things are that they teach in public school that you never use as an adult.
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They're learning financial literacy, how to balance a bank account, how to figure out percentages and discounts and, and all those different kinds of things.
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So, yeah, there's just,, so much, I'm trying to find this post on Facebook here about a homeschooling stat stat I just saw, like the amount of people that are homeschooling, like now it's like in the millions.
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per year.
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How amazing is it? And yet as an entrepreneurial family, homeschooling is just, it's where it's at.
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Oh, here's, here's a stat.
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So in the 1980s, there was about 200, 000 homeschoolers in the two thousands.
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There was 1.
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5 million, 2010, 1.
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7 million.
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And so far in the twenties, there's over 5 million homeschool families.
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So I just love that how homeschooling is just increasing by leaps and bounds.
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It's amazing.
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I know I'm excited for it.
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A couple months ago I brought my oldest to a teen wealth workshop which was put on by Bill Allen in Tennessee.
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And they did go through like all the financial literacy that, you wouldn't normally get at that age.
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So they talked about investing and, what are stocks and bonds and talking about like compounding interest.
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And it was just, So helpful for him to hear that and really start to think at the end of it, they played a game where they were able to pick a job and then they went to different stations and were able to invest in real estate or invest in stocks.
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And then at the end, they were able to see, I think it was 16 years that they went through and see how much money they made.
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We're able to earn from all those investments after the 16 years.
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So I'm excited to continue that learning experience through homeschool, because especially with my oldest, I did see, like you said, they were just checking the boxes and he, is very smart and he learns like how to just get by.
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So like he wouldn't do his homework, because like he didn't he had better things to do.
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And then he was like, oh, okay, well, I figured it out and, you know, I only I need to get a, you know, 72 on this test and then I'll pass.
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So I'll be fine.
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So it was like, he definitely knew how to work the system.
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So, yeah, it wasn't the most.
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Educational experience, because he wasn't using it the right way.
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Yeah, you know that makes me think of my nine year old Noah the math we have him doing this year It's this this dvd cd that he puts into a laptop So he loves that because he's on a computer and that's the first time for him But what he quickly learned is okay, you have to do five lessons a week So he's on there like I think he did four lessons yesterday in his first day.
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So he just went through and crushed it but Yeah, he crushed it as far as he knocked out a bunch of lessons You But did he actually retain the information, you know, did he actually learn a lot or no? Is he just the way his brain works? Was he able to kind of figure out the system like your son was like, oh, here's how the system works Figure it out and just crush through it, you know, like you go to my older kids in their schooling Garrison my 13 year old part of his school is he has a business And he sells eggs.
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So he has 14 egg laying chickens You And so what we did for his business is we set up a subscription plan.
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So I taught Garrison about continuity, how to get people to subscribe to his membership, where they get a dozen eggs per week, it's 20 per month.
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And man, that just opens this Pandora's box of learning because first he's got, you know, these seven slots he needs to fill, but what else does he have to do now? He has to reach out and he has to find people to subscribe, which was, I actually, I've got pictures of it.
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I was going to do a blog post on this.
He had literally he had like 12 dozen of eggs like just this huge surplus of inventory sitting on the counter And i'm like, dude, what are you doing, man? We got to get going and what we learned was like most people when it comes to It's time to sell and what happens when it's time to sell? Oh, there is a chance that I'm going to get rejected.
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Somebody's going to say no to my sales proposal.
So him and I got to talk through that.
So I have a picture of all these eggs sitting on a counter and then I have a picture of him out on the swing just swinging because I'm like, dude, you need to go think about it and figure out what's going on.
So I got a picture of him sitting out on the swing, searching his thoughts and emotions.
And then he comes back and he's like, Yeah, I'm scared that they'll say no.
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.999And so how cool is it that at 13 years old, he was able to learn that part of the sales process is rejection.
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Yeah.
And that's going to get them so much further in life.
I feel like than sitting in a classroom, like we talked about, you know, working the systems and I almost feel like that's how it is in a corporate work environment.
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It's like you learn to what you need to do, like bare minimum, just to get by and get your paycheck.
But you're just kind of dying inside.
Like you're not learning and growing and feeding that passion.
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Help feeding our kids to learn that same lesson.
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Yeah, Jim Rohn and, and Tony Robbins say that the highest form, let me see if I have this here, of the six human needs are growth and contribution.
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And when you're just set up in a regular school environment to memorize stuff, to take a test where you're not being challenged and growing and stuff like that, like you're missing out on part of the God given desire that's placed inside of you to To grow and contribute.
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And when you, when it's like you're set up to not even fail either, you're literally just set up to memorize something where one of my mentors, Josh Latimer says put your kids in situations where they experienced failure, because that's where real growth happens instead of setting them up to work.
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Oh, everybody gets a trophy.
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Everybody gets a star on their paper.
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Everybody's got this or that.
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Like, no, it's okay to experience failure because failure is part of the process for growth.
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Yeah.
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And I mean, I know everyone's not as lucky as us where they have the time to homeschool their kids.
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But I think even if, you know, you're working a nine to five and the kids are in traditional school, you know, you can still take time after school.
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Especially if you're already in the RV rental business, which most likely you are, if you're listening to this podcast but take the time to teach them some of the skills about running a business.
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And I think that would be really beneficial to them, you know, learning accounting, you can take them.
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You know, through your expenses and income that you're earning in your RV rental business and get them involved that way.
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Yeah, and that really just takes, you just got to deliberately slow down a little bit.
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That's something that's been our prayer and what we've talked about with starting school this year is we do not need to be in a hurry.
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We do not need to feel rushed or anxious because when we're, when we're slow and we're not having that anxiousness, then we're, we're not missing those opportunities to teach.
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So that is definitely a very good point.
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There's so many things that our kids can learn from if, if they're still in school, but you still want to, you know, teach 'em outside of school.
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That Yeah, there's some, I mean, even cooking and cleaning, like my Noah, my 9-year-old, this kid can fry up bacon and eggs.
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Like it's nobody's business.
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Like it blows people's minds.
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And I even let him near a stove, I'm like, let him near a stove.
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This kid can fry an egg better than you can.
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You want a good over easy egg, you know, so like.
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Hey, again, let your kids fail.
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Let them try.
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You know, let them, let them experience life.
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We need to stop sheltering our kids so much.
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Yeah, I think those life skills are definitely something that have kind of fallen behind in our society.
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Probably the last decade or so where You know, writing an address on an envelope or, you know, even dialing a phone.
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Sometimes, you know, they're so used to just pressing a button on a cell phone and,, getting on YouTube and have that instantaneous reaction to things where it's like they're missing out on all those little life lessons and life skills that, they weren't taught.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I completely agree.
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You know, and that brings up a good, a good side note, I'll say about technology and, and homeschooling, because one of the things about homeschooling is You can get a lot done in a short amount of time with homeschooling.
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So you have a lot of downtime.
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Like our Mondays is our long day of homeschooling and, but we're still done by around two o'clock.
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And then Tuesday is a little shorter.
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We do four days a week, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
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And then it's a little shorter, a little shorter.
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So one thing that we do to where to keep a balance with technology is we have some different apps on our kids phones, Google family link, and then we have bark.
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Which monitors and then that's another way to incentivize your kids to learn more or to add more to their workload is, Hey, you have our kids all get Emma gets a little bit more, Isabella, our seven year old doesn't have a device, no on garrison have one and they each get an hour a day on their phone and then after that, if they want to earn extra time, well, then they got to read or they got to do some chores or, or whatever, you know, and part of that too, really is, Let them get outside for a minute and get bored.
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I think we, we mess up on that.
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Right on the other side of boredom is creativity.
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So if you let your kids get outside where they're flopping and flailing, Oh my gosh, I don't know what to do.
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What do I do now? Like literally let that go for about another five, 10 minutes, right on the other side of that creativity kicks in.
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And then next thing you know, they're building a fairy garden around a tree.
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Or they're making bow and arrows out of sticks or they're playing tag or they're on the trampoline, but we got to learn to press through that little bit of you know, mini meltdown.
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I, I see it every time with my kids when their phones lock, like I can literally hear their feet, like walking at a different pace.
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I'm like, Oh, they must've ran out of their hour because they're coming at me heavy and hot.
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So I know they're out of their time and they literally walk over to me.
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What am I doing now, Dad? I'm like, perfect.
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Now you've started the process.
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Give it 5, 10, 15 minutes.
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You're going to feel bored.
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You're going to feel frustrated with dad.
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You're going to feel all these emotions and then guess what's going to happen next creativity and you're going to have fun and be a kid.
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Yeah, that's so true.
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Like that's just, I just experienced that yesterday with my two youngest.
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And then You know, like you said, they got outside and after 10 minutes, they were building a whole roadway and playing with cars and trucks.
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Then they were inside playing pretend like doctor and hotel and they had a whole office set up.
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Yeah, so just taking them away from the devices and letting their brains work and get creative is so important.
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Yeah, it's so is.
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What else do we want to talk about with homeschooling? I've got I've got Emma's, my 15 year old's daily schedule up here.
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I could share a little bit of it if you want.
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Yeah.
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Share a little bit of your routine.
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Yeah, definitely.
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So Emma, this year now we're making her, she has, her first thing she has to do is exercise.
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She has to get on the treadmill and do four miles.
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And one of the main reasons that's her first thing is it wakes you up, right? It gets the chemicals flowing, gets the blood flowing, gets them up and away and gets rid of that brain fog.
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So she does the treadmill.
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She does four miles on the treadmill.
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And she's a really smart girl, so I have parameters.
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She's got to do it in under 20 minutes.
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And she's got to have the resistance at nine on the treadmill.
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And then while she's doing that, we have her listen to like a motivational, inspirational, spiritual podcast at the same time.
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So she's filling her mind with some good stuff.
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She's getting the body awake, moving, flowing, doing all the things.
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How's your, how's your morning typically start Stacy? I mean, I feel like we're kind of late starters with.
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So I like to get up early and I get some work done in the morning.
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And then, like, the kids tend to sleep in a little bit, so we usually get started maybe around, like, nine and get, like, the important subjects done first while they're, like, nice and wide and awake and so we usually do, like, math or like, writing in the beginning.
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And then usually take a break and then do some like play and, you know, they, that's kind of when they get their exercise in.
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And then in the afternoon, like, we'll come back and do the fun subjects like science or social studies.
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Awesome.
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And isn't that the awesome thing about homeschooling? Yeah, because not everybody is a early bird and you can do things at different times.
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And yeah, if you like your quiet time during the morning to knock out your things, so you feel productive and accomplished already.
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Yeah.
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You can do stuff like that.
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So yeah, Emma does her exercise, then she's got a devotion that she reads, and then she has her mantra that she reads and all of our kids have a mantra that, that we've written out for them, based on the specific gifts that we know that they have, and the callings that we believe that God has on their life, so they read that out, and then Emma does a lot of writing, So I have her either write out, like yesterday I had her write out this letter.
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I read this book called Giant Killers by Bill Johnson.
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Raising Giant Killers.
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And at the end of it was a letter that he wrote to his children.
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10 things I want you to know.
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So I have Emma writing that letter out, or I'll have her write out like a Psalm or a book from the Bible or just something you know, that, that I feel is good and important for her.
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And then I, I'm like the principal.
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So I checked the schoolwork at the end.
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They check in with dad and I checked the math and this and that with them.
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And mom does the more of the reading and phonics and stuff like that.
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Sorry, let me back up.
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We all do a devotion time together in the morning We do some reading as a group and then we break off yeah, I think with us being on the road more like i'm going to try to Do more podcasts maybe audiobooks so when we're driving we can get you know, some of that time in so it's not wasted and then when I was previously homeschooling we used a curriculum called book shark Book shark But I felt like it was a little overwhelming because it kind of was more like traditional school where it was like, again, you had to check this box and do this.
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So we're going to kind of take more of like, an unschooling approach this coming year.
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Like, where I mentioned, you know, visiting museums and national parks and.
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learning by doing rather than, doing worksheets and things like that.
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So I'm really excited to experience that and see how it goes.
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Yeah, I love that about homeschooling is following the kids passions and their events and their gifts.
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Two of our kids have dyslexia and we're just so thankful that we're able to school them and learn that because if they were not saying that it's 100 percent the case, but most likely if they were in a public school system, they probably would have been labeled something else.
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But we just thank God that we're homeschooled them so we can see their strengths, see their weaknesses, and find all the different re you know, 'cause there's just so many resources out there.
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You know, we did the classical conversation for several years and got a lot of good stuff out of that.
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And, a lot of different good curriculums for reading and they're just so much hodgepodge, you know, and my wife is like the homeschool guru.
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She has women like all around reaching out to her because she's just very good at encouraging moms with their homeschooling journey and letting them know like, hey, you don't have to just pick one curriculum and run with it.
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Like that's okay.
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You know go with what, where your child is learning and where you're seeing progress.
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You know, because that's so countercultural to public school and okay now you take this test so we can rank you to see where you're at this and that.
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It's just, I love it.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm excited to move forward.
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Hopefully this episode like gave encouragement to people to start thinking about homeschooling if they aren't.
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I know it can be a big change, but I definitely think it's worth it.
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And I know it's not our typical episode, but I hope it'll inspire you.
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Yes, I need to rock out all you homeschool parents.
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So proud of you.
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You're doing the hard things.
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You're investing in your kids.
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And you know, for those of you out there that you want to homeschool, but for whatever reason it doesn't work start to explore that, get a little curious and see what could potentially change to make it work.
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Like in one of this groups that I'm in, they say you only have 18 summers with your kids.
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So instead of looking back with a bunch of regrets, you know, the number one need that a child has is, is love and connection.
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And what do we do as parents? We're spending a bunch of our time trying to make money to buy them all the things and all the toys and all the experiences they just want us.
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They just want to be with us.
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I saw this video on Facebook a while ago and interviewed all these parents.
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If you can meet anybody or spend time with anybody in the world, who would it be? And the parents are like, Oh, it would be Justin Beaver.
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It would be the monkeys.
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It would be Jesus.
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It would be, you know, all these famous people.
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And then they flipped the camera around and interviewed the kids.
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And, oh man, I'm a crier for those y'all that don't, it just brought me to tears.
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They're like, Oh, I don't know, like have a nice dinner with my mom and dad.
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Like, I don't know, maybe just go on a bike ride with my dad.
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Like that's what our kids want.
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They want us, they want quality time with their parents.
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So maybe you guys need to make a hard choice and say, you know what? If we actually make these couple tweaks on our budget, maybe if we actually downsize our house, Maybe if we actually, whatever, we could actually make this work.
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I want to encourage you don't feel like you're stuck and hopeless and there's no possible way for you to do it.
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Is Myron Golden says if the desire is strong enough, we'll make that choice.
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We'll make it same reason as the desire was strong enough for you to have a 4, 000 square foot house.
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You make the mortgage payment happen.
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If the desire is strong enough for you to invest more in your children before they're adults.
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Well, then you get rid of the 4, 000 square foot house and you go to 2, 000 square foot and you do the thing that's purposed in your heart to do.
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So do hard things parents.
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Well, I love that.
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I just your little speech there inspired me.
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Like I want to go out and take a walk or a bike ride with the kids and just spend that quality time with them.
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It's so precious.
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Those memories.
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So precious.
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Well, thank you everyone for joining us this week.
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I hope you enjoyed this episode and we'll see you again next week.