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All right.
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Hey, everybody.
Welcome to another episode of RV rental secrets podcast.
I am your co host, Gar, here with Stacey.
.999What's the new nickname I made up for you? Stacey, the Marketing Master Maxson.
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That's a tongue twister.
And today we got a guest on the show.
Normally it's me and Stacey chatting it up, but today, well, no, we had a guest the other week.
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We had the CEO of RV Trader, Marketing Development.
And now we've got another special guest.
We have, Stacey, you want to announce our guests? Yeah, we have Maddie from RV Share.
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Thank you so much for joining us today.
Hi guys.
Thanks for having me.
Excited to have you.
Go ahead, Stacy.
Ladies first.
Yeah.
Do you want to tell us what you do for RV share? Sure.
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Yeah, I've been at RV share for almost six years.
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I am the senior director communications running the brand team.
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Most of our marketing channels over at RV share.
RV share.
.999And for those of that know, RV share is a peer to peer RV rental platform where we connect RV owners with travelers looking to rent and get out on the road and experience the magic of an RV trip.
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So my job has a lot to do with bringing awareness to this type of travel and bringing in traffic and, you know, consideration from these customers.
So hopefully they book with us and make some good money for our owners.
And I also represent RV Share as a travel expert and spokesperson.
So I've been on more than 20 RV rental trips across the U.
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S.,
including Hawaii.
So I have some great experience on the road as well.
That's awesome.
And you know, I thought of a story I want to start out with.
.9995And you know me, Stacey, I just like to talk about random things that you probably shouldn't even talk about and just throw out random ideas.
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And so that's what I'm going to do.
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Okay, Maddie.
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Are you cool with that? Let's do it.
.999Like a couple of weeks ago, we were doing the podcast and I was shopping for a reclining massage chair that I bought during the podcast.
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You know, I just, I'm a multitasker, but as I was sitting here thinking about RV share and you're introducing yourself, I thought, Oh my gosh, RV share.
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They're like the biggest platform, but you guys are rock stars.
And it made me think of the story.
And maybe, you know, of this story.
I don't know.
We'll see.
Okay.
Several years ago, and this really is like this story throws me under the bus and makes you the hero, just so you know.
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So this story, we rented this RV to these three ladies in Pennsylvania.
Actually, they were leaving from Pennsylvania and they were going to California and back.
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And like day two of the trip, these ladies start calling us.
They all had bed bug bites.
Do you know the story, Maddie? I don't think.
Okay.
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So these ladies all had bed bug bites.
And, you know, I'm all about, Hey, just experience, right? Like y'all know, Maddie knows she's been on 20 plus trips, like RVing.
It's not staying at a hotel or a resort.
Like there's an experience side to it, right? You're going to get stuck out in the rain and then come in and the inside of the camper is rainy and like, just things happen.
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Like that's just part of RVing.
So anyway, we decided, all right, we're going to like help these ladies get to California and back full of bed bug bites.
So we got them like treatments, we got them rental cars, we got them a hotel, but like we just kept them going.
.999We're like, no ladies, this is part of the adventure.
This is amazing.
You're going to have the best hotel for the rest of your life.
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And anyway, so fast forward all the way till the end.
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This is where RV share comes in as the hero, because this was an RV share booking.
Months later, I'm talking to my account rep at RV share.
And I mentioned the story.
He's like, Oh yeah, dude.
I know all about that.
.9We sent these ladies $5, 000.
That is stinking amazing.
Like RV share, even though you didn't have to, we got them through the rental.
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Like they made some memories.
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We ended up finding out the bed bugs were from the owner.
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I was like, no, I don't have nothing bad bugs.
What do you mean? I work at a women's shelter.
I deal with bedbugs all day long.
There's no way my RV and we're like, Oh, the light bulb goes off.
But anyway, that's the story about how I'd fail turned into an RV share.
I like to do alliterations.
We discovered on my last podcast and RV share rescue.
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So y'all came through like the heroes and you didn't even bring it up to us.
Like, Hey, Gary, your customer that you gave bedbugs to.
We sent them a bunch of money y'all just were the hero rock stars to these three ladies So thank you maddie.
.999I appreciate you got to hear there was a happy ending there It was a happy ending.
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.9995Okay, stacy.
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Do you got questions? You want to ask maddie? I'm not talking to the rest of the show so i'm curious Of course, like all rv rental business owners, like what trends are you seeing in the industry right now? that People can kind of get on board with.
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So I think, you know, as we look back on these last few years, especially when we experienced a huge spike in demand and interest in RV rentals throughout the COVID 19 pandemic I think this year we're finally feeling kind of that plateau of that spike and really looking to see where that new normal falls with, with demand and interest and how we really fit into the larger travel market.
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.999So I think it's just been a big year of learning.
And on the back of that, we've found other ways and trends that people are interested in RV renting.
And I think one of those trends is more and more people are renting for events.
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So we're seeing a ton of people renting for music festivals and sporting events like NASCAR and Also looking at, you know, unique hobby events to like horseback riding and pet shows.
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So that has really come to the surface for us as people turn towards RVs to just have an alternative way to stay at these type of events.
And so for RV owners out there, I would consider, you know, looking in your area to see what type of events are around you and how you could utilize those for booking out.
Your RV more often.
I think that's a great way to get extra bookings that aren't just targeting that travel demographic.
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.001We're also seeing delivery as the amenity that's really continuing to grow.
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You know, over 60 percent of the owners on our site today offer delivery.
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More than half of our bookings are delivered in some capacity.
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Whether they're delivered to the renter's home for them to then pack up and hit the road.
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Word to the campground and set up for them.
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I think it's a great option for those who are a bit hesitant about renting and looking for a way to ease into it and having the owner pay, you know, to have them come out and set it up for you, hook up the tanks and turn on the air conditioner and people definitely love to do that.
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So I think that's continuing to grow in something that if you're not offering today, it'd probably be worth looking into and considering.
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We're also seeing a huge interest in shoulder season.
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People are traveling at different times.
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I think when I first started at RV share, there was a kind of that big bell curve and, you know, kind of for the year and our business would spike at 4th of July.
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You know, Memorial Day, Labor Day would be kind of the bookends to that.
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And then it would kind of go back down that curve of demand.
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But rather our fall season has become super popular, especially in warmer states.
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We're partnering with, you know, visit Florida as a marketing partnership because visit Florida can obviously rent all year round and they see more demand in those shoulder seasons.
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And so I think that a lot of people are looking to RV in the spring and fall, and that could also be due to kind of the hotter weather we've been experiencing kind of across the board.
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What used to be those peak months, months of June and July.
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And I think another one that's worth mentioning as well for RV owners could be interesting is that a lot of them are turning to consignment, which I know you guys probably talk about on this a bit and looking for others to professionally manage their RV business for them.
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So they're not completely hands on.
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That is part of this industry and also looking for ways to rent their RVs year round.
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So, you know, if you live in Michigan and nobody RVs in the winter there, maybe move the RV in the unit a bit South so it could be rented and utilized and you're still making income year round.
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Yeah, I think we've seen the trend for events as well.
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We've talked about that recently and yeah, really pushing like the horse shows.
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Dog show.
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I've seen all that in my area, especially.
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Anything you have to add, Don? Yeah, I totally agree.
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That's why I call it Wheel Estate.
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It's literally, it's a house on wheels, so it's so versatile for any type of, any type of event and just outside of camping.
.001And one thing I'm really passionate about that, That I want to continue to explore is creating events, creating demand.
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So, you know, creating themed outings, a daddy daughter weekend at a campground and partnering with a campground and something for Boy Scouts.
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And I know Sam and oh my gosh, Apologize.
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What's Sam's wife's name in Vegas? Oh, Danny, Sam and Danny.
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They're talking about doing a corporate yoga retreats out there in, in Vegas with some different corporate partnerships that they have and just different things.
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That's a house on wheels that you can put anywhere and set up in any scene and do anything.
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So it's just so much fun.
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It's so versatile.
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Yeah, certainly.
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.001And I love that term.
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I haven't heard it before.
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What's that? Wheel estate? Wheel estate.
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Oh, yeah.
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So, I mean, you talked about like, You know the a little bit about what RV share does you said, you know, they were partnering with Visit florida for some marketing efforts Like what else does rv share do for their owners to try to get more rentals in? Yeah, so you can think of rv share as a marketing site for your business Really getting your rental in front of hundreds if not thousands of potential customers weekly so rv share RV shares main goal is to grow the RV rental category and really cemented as part of the travel industry.
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So all of our marketing dollars go back into the business to promote that concept, right? And so I think Consumers have a lot.
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To travel and we went RVing to be a part of their consideration set.
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So as the marketing team, you know, we're, we have a sizable team behind RVShare.
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And we're really working to drive demand towards your RVs that are listed on RVShare.
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So we spend millions of dollars to, Promote RVs on like Google, Meadow with Facebook and Instagram and other search engines.
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So people, you know, are, are RV shares getting in front of them and turn your listings are getting in front of those people.
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And we really work to run those awareness campaigns through advertising buys, working with partners like visit Florida and other DMOs and other companies that have access to people who'd be interested.
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In the RV rental category really targeting them to bring awareness to this type of travel and that encouraging them to get out and experience that magic of an RV trip.
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So, you know, that's the, the main part of what RV share does is really trying to help these small business owners get access to that larger demand across the U S.
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We as a whole with fireside like we've talked to some of our franchisees because they are often like, oh, you guys need to do more advertising and I feel like we leverage, our V share because you guys spend more money on marketing than we ever could.
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And I sure a lot of small businesses feel that way as well.
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So I feel like that's where, you know, the partnership with RV share comes in and can help these small business owners because you guys have a much further reach than just one small business ever could exactly.
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I know you're passionate about that car.
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Oh yeah.
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I'm about to go off girls.
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Okay.
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You might want to mute it.
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I don't want to hurt your ears, but you know, there's so much, we've got a couple Facebook groups.
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Maddie that we that we run and we've got I don't know about 25, 000 members or so in the couple groups and one of the biggest complaints you hear from the RV owners is the platform fees a platform fees in or you hear them.
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Hey, I'm trying to figure out how to take this booking offline and oh my gosh, I let them have it.
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I said, Hey, you're literally paying for guaranteed revenue.
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You're not paying them 50 for a lead that may or may not be a customer.
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They have done the work to hand you a customer.
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People just don't understand that, you know, especially a lot of the, just the.
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You know, someone's renting their one RV.
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The work that goes into marketing and lead generation and even just, heck, the email drip campaigns that you probably put somebody into after they sign up for something where you're constantly nurturing that lead and reaching out and re engaging and showing up and retargeting ads and all the different things that you're doing and all the efforts and energy you're putting into that.
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You guys more than earn that commission.
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Plus, not just that, you didn't just get them a renter.
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Something's wrong on the rental.
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There's, there's a insurance, there's this, there's that.
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You guys have departments for all those different facets of the business and staff in those departments to help do that.
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You know, so it's, it cracks me up when people complain.
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Like that, it would be interesting because I'm sure you guys literally spend like, I would love to see what your marketing budget is.
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I'm, I mean, I'm sure it's an amazing amount of money that would literally blow people's minds.
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And that's something I decided when I started in 2016 from my previous business ventures is I'm going to pick my niche and run with it.
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My niche is RV rental management.
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I'm not going to try to compete with the platforms to generate leads.
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That makes no sense.
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I'm going to partner with them, let them do what they're the experts at.
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I do what I'm good at.
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And we, you know, I have a great relationship that way.
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Well, I'm glad you understand Gar.
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We definitely, I definitely agree with you.
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And I think When you think about it as yeah, lead generation, we brought you a lead and, and many other scenarios or other platforms and other industries, it could be, you have to pay to list, and then you're paying a subscription fee and you might not even get a booking or a lead.
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So paying that small fee back.
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And then that goes back into our marketing cycle.
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And if even if you share your RV share link to a potential customer, or you're promoting your listing and somebody clicks on that link, you know, we're retargeting them and we're making sure then that.
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It shows back up in their email and says, you were checking this out.
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Why aren't you booking? And, you know, you're now on Google searching something else, but there's, there's your listing and your link, because we're using cookies to retarget them and make sure that their eyeballs are on that listing.
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So you know, it's, it's all a benefit if, if you win, we win and, and we're just all really going after the same goal at the end.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I'm going to leave it at that.
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I can say more things.
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I'm passionate about this, but Stacy, you got another question you want to ask? Yeah.
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So I'm curious right now with AI being so popular, like what technology is RVShare using or what do you think you're going to be using in the future to help renters and owners? Sure.
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Yeah, I mean, I think the main goal is just to make booking an RV rental as simple as a hotel.
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We've been saying that since I've joined the team here at RV Share.
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You know, today that's not the case, but when you look at other peer to peer industries, like a vacation rental market, or you know, booking a handyman on a site like thumbtack or something like that.
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Those are extremely easy and simple and a click of a button to really get through that booking flow.
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And RV share aspires to provide similar technology and experiences for, for renters and being able to rent an RV.
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I mean, I think.
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Today, renting an RV or just RV travel in general, for those who haven't experienced it before, there can be a little bit of a learning curve.
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So we're definitely putting technology in place that just makes it easier to get on a book and understand how and what type of RV you're going to need for your trip.
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We just launched something called RV finder on our homepage.
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So it makes searching and finding an RV easier, especially for those that again, might be new to the category puts things in layman's terms.
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You know, it, it talks about the different class types and the different ways of renting, whether you are picking it up and driving it, getting it delivered getting it delivered to your home and what type of RV you're You know, where you're going to use it.
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Are you going to a campground? Are you doing a multi stop road trip? How can we help you plan that trip? And I think that's where like AI and other things will come into play when just really learning about the user as they work through the flow and understanding what they need, maybe before they even know themselves and really recommending that for them.
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So we can narrow down their search a lot quicker, find the RV that's needed.
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Yeah.
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And then on the back end as well, I mean, there's so much that goes into how we present RVs to them and rank those RVs for based on really owner you know, how the owners are performing on the back end.
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So, yeah.
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If you listen to any of our owners meetups, that's on our YouTube page.
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We talk about this a lot.
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We also have a ton of help content on our blog and and our owners Facebook group, you know, we're talking just about how rank works and how we serve up those listings to these users.
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And a lot of it is just performance and professionalism and how quick you respond and the reviews that you might have and how.
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Well informed your listing is.
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And so if you're providing a great service to the renters, then you're going to be served up quicker in those types of searches.
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And so it's all kind of this big algorithm that just at the end of the day, the goal is to make renting an RV easier.
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So more people can do it, more people are interested in coming into the category and, and experiencing outdoor travel.
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So you know, obviously we are a website and so technology is a big part of that.
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We also have our app so that you can do these types of things on the go.
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But yeah, I think, you know, again, we're just looking to provide a tool that makes it easier for people to get into RV, RV travel.
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Yeah, it is amazing that there are still so many people that haven't traveled in an RV or new to rentals.
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Just in my day to day like I'll be talking to someone and they'll be like, Oh, like, what do you mean you rent out your RV.
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So, it's still definitely a learning opportunity or to teach people and educate them on RV rentals.
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So having that information on the website I think is very helpful.
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Yeah, and I, yeah, I think you're right.
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Awareness that this is still even an option is, is really low, which again, I kind of talked about in our marketing efforts, because we're just trying to inform people that this is an option that should be part of your consideration set when you're deciding how to travel with your family this summer, you know, and are you going to a beach house or do you want to do a road trip through national parks? And if you, Are doing the latter, then you should consider an RV because that's the perfect, perfect way to travel and stay in a national park.
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And so I think there's perfect combination based on the type of trip you want to take and an RV should be part of that consideration.
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Yeah, definitely.
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For someone that, Has an RV, you know, they are just considering renting it out.
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Like what tips do you have for them, listing on the platform? What should they think of that? They probably don't know.
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I'm just kind of wondering what guidance you would have for someone new starting out.
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Yeah, I have like four pieces of advice for.
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Diving in to renting.
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So one would be be open to sharing.
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It sounds very obvious when you're joining kind of a peer to peer sharing platform, but I think a lot of people don't realize, you know, that are so attached maybe even to their RV and it's their Their baby and something they've saved money for to buy and all of those things.
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But when you are coming on to a rental platform site and renting it out to others, naturally it's going to get wear and tear.
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So I would just suggest that you're doing it for the joy of like allowing others to experience an RV trip that you really want to provide, you know, this hospital experience for them and that you're okay with sharing your vehicle.
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And that.
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Understanding that things might happen.
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So I think that is the kind of the first hump to get over before considering it.
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And then of course, doing your research research, of course, I mentioned kind of RV shares, YouTube page has a lot of great resources.
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We also have a great online resource on RV share.
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com.
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And then we have a great owners Facebook group.
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And so going in and just really diving into.
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What is going to take and the efforts and how much time it'll take to set it up and the listing and things like that.
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RV share also offers like one on one coaching.
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So that's a free service to anyone that's thinking about listing and you can reach out to our customer success team.
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They'll help you get your listing set up and really answer any questions.
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So that one on one time is super valuable, which.
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Helps you do your research.
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And then I also suggest like building a community, which I think you guys, they're listening to this podcast.
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They're probably in the right place already, but talking to other RV owners and making friends with local campgrounds, too.
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I think that when thinking about renting and operating a business within your community and having those resources is.
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Yeah.
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To be able to suggest we suggest going to this campground and here's why and kind of having those resources from that campground to be able to set up your RV properly there and really not running into any staff you staff is when operating a business.
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And also I think those Facebook groups and things like that or forums are super helpful when, you know, having questions, especially from those that do this every day and I've already built up a business.
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And lastly, I think just making that strategic decision based on time, money, effort, it will take to rent out your RV.
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There's a lot that goes into this.
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And I think it's a big decision to be able to run kind of this second business on the, and it'll be a side hustle probably for most.
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And I think that, you know, that's an important decision to make and, and being ready to go through that and dive in.
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before, you know, listening and getting into it is, is important.
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Yeah, I agree.
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So if people want to rent an RV or if they're looking to sign up to rent out their RV, they would just go to rvshare.
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com, correct? Yep, you can find us at rvshare.
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com and like I said, we have some great resources there, but it's a good, good place to start.
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Great, do you have any other questions for Maddy Gar? I don't.
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Thanks for coming on today, Maddy.
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you.
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We are super thankful for RVShare.
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You're one of the reasons we've been able to build this company that we're blessed with today and we look forward to working with you guys for years to come.
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Well, thanks for being great partners and appreciate you guys having me on.
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This is awesome.
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Thank you so much.