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Welcome to the RV Rental Secrets Podcast.
.999I'm your host, Stacey Maxson, and I'm thrilled to guide you through the journey of launching, growing, and managing a profitable RV rental business.
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I wanted to share some of my top takeaways from that conference.
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When I attended, I attended the MBA rental school and there were a lot of dealers there that were renting RVs, so it kind of gave a new perspective on what they were doing, and I wanted to share what I learned.
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So first was pricing.
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Things are changing in the RV rental industry, as you've seen with hotels and with campgrounds even now using dynamic or pressure point pricing.
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So with this you know, you wouldn't have the same nightly rate each time.
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If there's an event or festivals, you would wanna upcharge at least 25% of your normal nightly rate, and then you can even do a.
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Menu pricing.
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So think of if you have like three categories, your standard, your preferred, and then luxury, and they can choose which one they would want.
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So say the standard just includes your basic protection package or insurance and preferred you add on windshield coverage and luxury, a late checkout or an early pickup.
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And those really aren't costing you anything extra, but it gives added value to the customer.
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So you can think of different ways that you would price so that they see more value.
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You're really not changing anything.
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They might be getting those services regardless, but just showing that information upfront.
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Next I wanna talk about building and managing your fleet.
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So I've probably said this before, but it really takes 20 to make money especially when you're doing consignments.
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So you wanna at least have 20 units to basically earn a full-time income.
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Some ways to get more units for your fleet.
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One of the things they mentioned was bringing treats or promo items to dealers, and that was kind of from a dealer's perspective.
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So, you know, find those dealerships that don't currently do rentals and just go and introduce yourself.
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You know, like they suggested bring a treat.
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There's some items that you can hand out just to start building that relationship.
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Also with the fleet that you have if the unit isn't renting well or has issues, just give it back to the owner.
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They, they did sign an agreement that they were gonna rent it out, but there's no obligation on your part, if you're always having problems with that because the slide isn't working correctly.
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And then you're having to give a refund.
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Or it's just sitting there and taking up space.
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Just, you know, reach out to the owner, say, I'm sorry, but this unit is just not renting well in our area.
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And make arrangements for the owner to take that unit back.
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And that gives you space to take another unit that's gonna rent better for motor homes.
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You wanna make sure that you're keeping them under 50,000 miles in two to three years old.
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Their point was they really wanted to help with the resale value.
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But you know, even when you're not the salesperson that's going to have that unit and resell it, you wanna make sure that you're doing well by your owners and keeping it so that they can still get a good price when they go to resell it.
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So you don't want to, run the, the unit hard where it's just racking on the miles going cross country back and forth.
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So if it's getting to the point where it's I think 50,000 could be a little bit low, but I mean, 60,000 start having those conversations with the RV owner to get it back to them so that they can sell it at that point.
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Also when you're taking in a unit you can look to see if there's any warranty work that needs to be done, or if you bring it to an RV repair shop, make sure that that warranty work gets done ahead of time.
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That way the vehicle's gonna be in good condition when it starts going out on those rentals, and you're not gonna have to pull it to get any of that work done.
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Next is KPIs.
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So you really wanna know the numbers of your business.
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One is gonna be utilization, so how much each unit is getting used, and that should be above 40%.
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For seasonal locations, you're just going to want to look of course, during the rental period.
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Obviously the off season is gonna be, you know, basically zero utilization.
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You wanna also make sure you're keeping track of how many leads you're getting.
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From those leads, how many reservations are you actually booking? And that's what your conversions are.
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So if you're getting calls or inquiries whether it be direct or through a platform, how many of those are actually converting into a reservation? And if they're not converting into a reservation you know, try to figure out why.
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You can even reach out to them to see, do you mind me asking why you didn't end up booking? It could be because they found a different unit elsewhere.
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They decided not to take the trip, but that data is all going to be information that you can help improve so that you can start getting more bookings and reservations.
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Next is niching down, so you don't have to be.
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The RV rental business for everyone.
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For instance, you know, when I had my location in upstate New York, we really focused on families because, you know, we were as owners, we were parents, we had three kids, and we could really resonate with other families that wanted to take trips and give their kids experiences.
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And with that too, we found that those families were also a longer rental.
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So they would wanna take that week trip to go explore and see new things and that was their vacation for the summer.
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So think of what you want your avatar to be and really niche down.
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So like I said, that could be families, that could be one-way rentals.
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So you wanna be the expert in doing one-way rentals in your area.
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You could have it be vacation planning.
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So maybe you have all drivable units and you wanna help those people do cross country trips and you're going to give them resources and help them plan out their trip to different national parks throughout the country.
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Maybe you really want to do events or corporate.
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So you're going to provide trailers for, you know, music festivals or if you wanna do corporate, it could be corporate retreats or having office space available for employees that are moving.
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So just really think about what you're passionate about, what you've found is popular in your area, and you can really niche down where those are the only reservations that you're taking and you become an expert in it.
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And then you can, say no to the, the other reservations that are coming in, or you can still take those, but you know it's not who your avatar is and who your marketing is going to be like once you niche down and have that one person that you want to help.
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I.
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You would create all of your marketing around that.
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So it's like you're talking to that one person and then if it attracts other people, fine, you can still take those reservations.
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But that's not who you're going to have.
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All of your marketing and all of your processes and procedures and maybe you know, gifts and things that you're gonna provide to the renter is all gonna be based on that one niche and one avatar that you have.
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Next is complaints.
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So, you know, of course we all get 'em no matter what we do.
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You're always going to have people that aren't happy and unfortunately, you know, it's just part of the hospitality business that we're in, that we have to deal with those complaints.
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Some of the things that you can do to kinda alleviate that stress is.
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Have a cost sheet for a certain percentage or dollar amount if things break on the trip.
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So instead of, you know, taking it by a case by case basis and someone's like, oh, my refrigerator broke, like, I wanna refund you could be like, okay, let me look at my cost sheet and see what we would allow for that.
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So it kind of takes some of that, you know, personal.
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Feelings and emotions out of it.
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And it's like, okay, we have a process in place for this and based on what the problem was, this is how much we can give you.
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And that's our policy.
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So I think that helps, you know, kind of have something set in stone so you're not feeling guilty about the situation and.
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Really, it takes like a lot of brain power and decision making when a problem arises and you can get your emotions involved where you feel guilty and you want to help that customer.
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But if you have something set up ahead of time, it'll just let you stick to the facts and be like, okay, I've already figured this out, that if this went wrong, this is how much I can give you for a refund.
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And I think that would help.
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Cut down on a lot of aggravation on your end and on the renter's end also.
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Instead of, you know, giving them a cash refund, have it be a credit for future use.
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So, you know, in our, SRA we have a things happen clause so that.
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We all know with RVs things happen.
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There are houses driving down the road.
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Things are constantly moving and things will break.
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So instead of you know, giving the money back, I.
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Kind of explain to them, you know, unfortunately things happen with RVs, but we would really love for you to have another experience with us.
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You know, I do understand that the air conditioning wasn't working during this time period, but you know, we did provide a portable air conditioning for you during that time, and we want to give you a credit for $200 to use towards your next trip.
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So that way you're listening to them, you are, you know, hearing their concerns, letting them know that you understand that there was an inconvenience and still giving them something.
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But one, it's showing that you are sticking to your policies.
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And two, it's giving you the opportunity to win them back.
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So when they.
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Make that return trip, it gives you another chance to go ahead and make sure, you know, everything goes flawlessly.
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Another thing is increasing cash flow in your business.
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So with rentals, especially if you have a seasonal location, you know, there can be an ebb and flow of cash coming in.
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So one of the things you can do is if you have them book in full in advance, currently we usually ask for like a $500 deposit when it's a year in advance.
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But you could have them book in full and give no deposit and they're paying all of that money upfront.
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Also, if they do cancel.
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You could do a credit within one year if they cancel.
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So having a strict cancellation policy, and you're not refunding them that money, but giving them a credit on file.
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You can also have the customer rebook when they come back from the rental and use their security deposit to rebook.
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So when they're returning the unit.
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You, you know, make sure you're doing your walkthrough.
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You can make sure that they have a good time on their trip and ask for them to leave a review.
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And if they did have a good time, then you know, ask.
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Oh, well do you, do you go back to that place every year? Are you looking to take another RV trip next year? I would love to just get that in the books.
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For you now before that reservation or, maybe they love that unit and you can get that in the books now before that gets reserved by someone else.
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Or maybe they were looking for a different type of unit and they're at the lot.
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So you can show 'em a couple different units and say, oh, if you really love this one, we can go ahead and reserve that now for you.
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That way you don't miss out.
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And then use their security deposit to rebook for that next year.
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I know I mentioned it a little bit before with the KPIs, but you really wanna know your numbers.
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So you can create a pro forma.
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And what that is, is you are making basically like an estimate of what you think your numbers will be for the upcoming season.
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And this will help you track your income, your expenses, you know, making sure that you're getting the reservations that you need to, to hit those pro forma numbers.
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And it's basically just a goal that you're going to measure yourself against.
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So you wanna make sure you're looking at expenses daily.
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You know what, what can you cut? You wanna make sure you're keeping your overhead low.
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So keeping those expenses as low as possible and then also seeing kind of where there's some bottlenecks where I know sometimes we can needlessly spend when we don't have a process in case and we need to get something fixed quickly.
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So trying to identify those issues and you know, putting a process in place for those so that you're not needlessly spending that money last minute.
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For example, maybe you have a reservation going out and the propane tanks are empty.
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And it wasn't checked ahead of time.
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So you might have to go to a propane place that's close to the campground and get it filled and their cost is a lot more expensive.
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And if you go to the place that you normally would go to so if you had a process in place where you were making sure that you were checking those propane tanks.
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At your facility and getting them filled at certain time periods, then that would alleviate that extra cost.
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And another thing, it doesn't matter how much you make, but how much you keep.
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So you could be having you know, $150,000 in revenue, but if.
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125,000 of that is expenses for you.
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You may be profitable, but that's not gonna be a business that is going to be sustainable.
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So you really wanna make sure that not only are you tracking your revenue, but you're tracking your expenses and figuring out ways to keep those expenses low.
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Another thing that they went over was RV trends.
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So just some things to keep in mind when you're getting new units in.
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Solar is beginning to be very popular.
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People are loving king beds, and along with that upgraded mattresses.
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So especially on your high end units, think about getting some mattress upgrades because that's really what people are looking for.
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Maximum sleeping areas.
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So I'm sure you've seen this where, bunk houses are usually the most popular because they can sleep like 10 to 12 people sometimes.
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So, you want those units that the dinette is going to fold up to a bed.
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The couch folds out to a bed.
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People are looking to have, you know their kids, their parents, everyone in one rv.
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Slides.
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As you know, this is really going to increase the living space in the rv.
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So those are very popular fuel economy fireplaces.
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Those are nice because they're not eating up all the propane.
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So if you know it's a fall or spring night, sometimes using the electric fireplace on the campgrounds electric.
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That'll help cut down costs for you guys as well, because you're not always having to fill the propane for heat.
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And they're a nice touch for the renters.
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As well with the maximum sleeping areas, people are also looking for as many seat belts as possible.
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Sometimes people are just renting the RVs just to get to like their Airbnb or their vacation destination.
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They just want it for a comfortable place for their family to get from one place to another.
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So they really want those units that are gonna like, have seat belts for eight people, and then media and entertainment you know, so they're looking for the TVs, they're looking for the Roku and streaming devices the Smart TVs.
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That can just be something that you're checking to make sure that they have, that Some of the potential problems that you can look out for are fold out beds like the Murphy beds, and then the the happy jacks where they're electric and they move up and down.
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There can be a lot of problems with those working correctly.
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So sometimes it's best just to avoid 'em.
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Complicated waste systems, so like the cassette toilets and things like that people don't really wanna have to deal with least.
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So just making it simple with a normal RV toilet with the black water tank.
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Is usually best and then residential refrigerators.
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You know, people don't understand that they're not gonna work when they're going down the road.
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So there can be a lot of problems with the customer asking why their unit the refrigerator isn't cold when they get there.
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So sometimes it's best just not to have those units in your fleet.
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Another thing that's really important is mitigating risk.
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So some things to think about that's gonna protect you and your business is one, you wanna verify that the insurance card, the driver's license in the credit card, all match the renter's information.
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And really this doesn't always pose.
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A problem, but if there was an accident or something that happened, you know, the, the lawyers are gonna look for these inconsistencies if there happens to be a case where something goes to litigation.
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So you wanna make sure you have all of your ducks in a row that you can provide this documentation if needed.
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Another thing is make sure you're printing out stickers for the units with the RV height plus six inches and putting that on the dashboard for your drivable units.
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I actually had an instance, it was a towable unit, but someone went under a low overpass and ripped the entire air conditioning roof and everything off of the rv.
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If they had that information upfront as to how tall it was, it kind of triggers them to pay attention more to the signs to know what bridges and overpasses they can fit under.
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If there are going to be additional drivers, make sure that there're on the contract and they have been verified and that they're on the insurance.
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So if it's a husband and wife, you wanna always make sure that they're both on there.
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You also wanna get personal information.
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So get a copy of their personal insurance policy.
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If they are renting through like outdoorsy or r vShare, they do gather that information.
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But if it's a direct booking, make sure that you're getting a copy of that because there could be a gap in coverage.
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For instance, if they don't return the rv.
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Or if there's limits as far as loss of use.
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So if they damage the unit, and I know even like MBA, the commercial coverage doesn't cover loss of use, so that could be something that their personal policy may be able to get that money back for you.
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You also wanna be really consistent with your procedures, because if you're not, it can open you up to discrimination claims.
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So, for instance say, you know, you have a policy for your walkthroughs, and every time someone comes, you're going through the checklist, walking them through, showing them how everything works.
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So if that's your policy, and then one day a man comes through and then you don't do it because you assume that, you know, he.
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Because him being a man he would know how to work an rv.
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And then when the woman comes through as your next rental and she sees that you didn't do that walkthrough, but then you're doing it with her, she could say, you know, you're discriminating against me because you're making me do this walkthrough.
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And you didn't make him do it.
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So make sure you're following your own policies and you're going through the same procedure with everyone so that you're not leaving yourself up to a discrimination case.
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Again, like with test drives, make sure if it's a drivable unit, that they feel comfortable with the unit and you're always doing the test drives and be consistent with that.
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So if you're making one person do the test drive, you wanna make everyone do the test drives, and if not, again, you can have a procedure in place where they're signing off on that they chose not to do the test drive because they have prior driving experience with an rv.
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So you just wanna make sure you're documenting everything.
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As far as towables, they need to be the last person to hook it up and touch it.
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So if they're not familiar with hooking up a vehicle.
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What I suggest is you can show them how to hook it up and unhook it once, and then next they have to do it themselves.
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And you can talk them through it, but you never want to be the final person that hooks it up to the unit because if they drive out of the driveway and that trailer falls off the ball and their vehicle gets damaged or the trailer gets damaged you don't want that coming back on you.
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You don't want to have them say, well, you're the person that hooked it up.
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So make sure that they are the ones to actually hook up the unit.
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Plus you want to make sure they know how to do it so that when they're at the campgrounds they are familiar with the process so make sure that they are completely doing it on their own.
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And also don't let them go if you know the tow vehicle isn't capable because you can be held liable for that.
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So make sure that, they have a big enough unit to tow that they have a trailer brake and the trailer controls in their truck.
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A brake controller, you wanna make sure that they have the proper towing equipment or you should not let them drive off that lot.
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You also wanna keep up to date on maintenance records.
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You need to know the date, who did it and what work was done especially for tires, brakes, and fixing past renter issues.
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So if a renter notified you that there was an issue with something and you didn't fix that you can be held liable for that if someone were to get hurt or if there was like a breakdown in a problem because of that issue.
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So you just really wanna make sure any recalls any, you know, scheduled maintenance that you have records of that.
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Also tracking the miles on the renter's tow vehicle to track trailer mileage.
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So we all do this with you know, drivable of course, but, and, and this won't be used against them at all, but just for your maintenance records, like make sure you ask them to turn on the vehicle and see what their truck mileage is.
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Then that way when they come back with the unit, you can check it again and see approximately how many miles they towed the unit.
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You know, with the trailer tires, there's usually a recommended time that they would need to get replaced.
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So you wanna know whether they went, you know, 100 miles or a thousand miles towing that trailer.
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And then make sure the signatures and the photos on the ID match.
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So you wanna always make sure that the person picking it up is the one that is on the contract, and you wanna make sure that the signature on their ID matches the signature on the contract, again, I mean, it seems so simple to not check these things but that one time that things aren't right, that could be the time that something happens and then you need to provide this documentation and you might not have it.
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So you just really wanna make sure you're protecting yourself so that if something terrible happens and there's a claim and it goes to court, you wanna make sure that you as the rental company will be protected.
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Another thing they talked about was a DA compliance.
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So one of the things with service pets and there was a difference between service pets and then I think emotional support, pets, they call them.
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So it's only for service pets.
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You can not charge a pet fee.
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So if they state that it is a service pet you can't charge that fee, but you can charge a cleaning fee after it comes back.
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So, you know, if there's hair or dirt because of a pet, you can charge that cleaning fee.
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There's only certain questions that are allowed, so you can ask this if it's a service animal and what does it do, but you can't really ask any questions outside of that because they're protected through a d, a compliance, so they don't have to answer those questions.
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Another thing that comes up a lot and was touched on was GPS regulations.
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So California, New York, Montana, and Connecticut.
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All regulate the use on rental units.
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So New York, they can't use GPS to impose fines, fees, or penalties for unauthorized use.
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So what that means is if you're using a GPS to track the unit if they come back and you see that they went to Burning Man or a festival that you.
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Don't allow, you can't charge additional fees based on what the GPS tells you.
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And of course, always contact a lawyer to go through this and get some more information.
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But I just thought it was interesting what they told.
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And then also, if you're continuously monitoring, you must have procedures in place to do something about it.
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So there's some are some GPS.
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Tracking services that also track you know, not only the speed, but it might give you information about if like a check engine light comes on it might have a tire monitoring system, which tells you if the air is low.
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So if you have access to that information and you don't have a procedure in place, you could be held liable.
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So, for instance, if it tracked that there was an issue with the engine, and then the engine blows up and the RV starts on fire and the renter got hurt.
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You could be held liable because you knew that that check engine light went on.
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Because of the monitoring, but you didn't do anything about it.
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So I mean, there's a lot of gray areas, but it's just something to be, aware of and make sure you're letting them know that you're tracking them.
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I know sometimes people can put like an Apple tag in their unit and definitely check with the lawyer because that information might not be able to used in court.
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So be careful of what you're tracking.
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And you know, whether you are getting that information to the renter or not.
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So definitely consult with a lawyer in your state to make sure that you're using it correctly.
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So that was all.
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My top takeaways from the event, again, it's.
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It's not clear cut and dry answers to a lot of it, but it really makes you think of how you can improve your operations, how you can set yourself up to succeed and be protected in case something does happen.
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So I hope that was helpful for you.
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You know, feel free to reach out if you have any questions or comments and I'd be happy to help.