Why Your First Year is All About Doing the Work

In this episode of the RV Rental Secrets Podcast, Garr Russell, Stacy Maxon, and special guest Ben Kiser dive into the reality of what it takes to build and sustain an RV rental business.

Too often, new owners jump in thinking they’re just offsetting payments—but the truth is, the moment you rent out your RV, you’re running a business. That means learning to deal with renters, managing repairs, hiring drivers and cleaners, keeping books, and most importantly—doing the work.

Ben shares his streamlined process at his Gulf Shores location, from booking through Fireside Plus to managing his bullpen of drivers and cleaners. Stacy and Garr pull back the curtain on their early struggles, hard lessons, and how pressing into the “pain” ultimately created systems and freedom down the road.

💡 Key Topics Covered:

• Why the first year of business is about “doing the work”

• How Ben simplified his day-to-day rental process

• The importance of knowing your why and pushing through discouragement

• Practical tips for finding drivers and cleaners through networking

• When to outsource and pay more to gain back your time

• How to turn hard moments into systems that free you up long-term

📌 Quote to Remember:

“In all labor there is profit.” — Proverbs 14:23

Whether you’re just starting out or scaling your fleet, this episode will inspire you to embrace the grind, stay focused on your why, and build a business that gives you freedom and fulfillment.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the RV Rental Secrets Podcast.

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.999I'm your host, Stacey Maxson, and I'm thrilled to guide you through the journey of launching, growing, and managing a profitable RV rental business. 3 00:00:09,393.8136466708 --> 00:00:10,383.813646671 All right everybody. 4 00:00:10,383.813646671 --> 00:00:14,463.813646671 Welcome to another episode of RV Rental Secrets podcast. 5 00:00:15,183.813646671 --> 00:00:16,773.813646671 I'm your co co-host today. 6 00:00:16,773.813646671 --> 00:00:21,333.813646671 We got Ben Cool Coffee Cup Kaiser on here with us. 7 00:00:21,783.813646671 --> 00:00:27,813.813646671 Ben, you're new to the show, so, or maybe you did one episode with Stacy, but I always like to come up with a fun nickname right off the bat. 8 00:00:27,813.813646671 --> 00:00:30,333.813646671 So go ahead and hold that coffee cup back up. 9 00:00:30,333.813646671 --> 00:00:31,113.813646671 Will you there? I couldn't. 10 00:00:31,413.813646671 --> 00:00:38,718.813646671 Is that a bunch of like fly lures or what is that? That's a killer whale and this came from Washington State, Bellingham. 11 00:00:38,936.086373944 --> 00:00:39,506.086373944 Awesome. 12 00:00:39,626.086373944 --> 00:00:40,106.086373944 Okay. 13 00:00:40,136.086373944 --> 00:00:41,36.086373944 Nice coffee cup. 14 00:00:41,36.086373944 --> 00:00:43,316.086373944 I'm a, I'm a coffee cup connoisseur. 15 00:00:43,366.086373944 --> 00:00:45,826.086373944 I've got a couple of 'em up at the restaurant there in the window. 16 00:00:45,826.086373944 --> 00:00:47,476.086373944 So I left c coffee cups. 17 00:00:47,866.086373944 --> 00:00:54,606.086373944 And then with Stacy the amazing mother Max in Stacy's just got into soccer season, so she's. 18 00:00:55,176.086373944 --> 00:00:56,976.086373944 Full-time entrepreneurial mom. 19 00:00:57,6.086373944 --> 00:00:58,446.086373944 Full-time soccer Mom. 20 00:00:58,926.086373944 --> 00:01:04,41.086373944 Stacy, do you have a soccer sticker on your vehicle that says soccer mom? No, I do not. 21 00:01:05,406.086373944 --> 00:01:06,106.086373944 You don't, okay. 22 00:01:06,296.086373944 --> 00:01:06,826.086373944 Well, no. 23 00:01:06,831.086373944 --> 00:01:16,281.086373944 In my defense, I did just buy a new car a few months ago, so I haven't had the opportunity, but Oh, did you? Is it a soccer van? No, I don't. 24 00:01:16,401.086373944 --> 00:01:20,31.086373944 We have three kids, so I don't have to upgrade to the van. 25 00:01:20,36.086373944 --> 00:01:21,411.086373944 I'm, I'm good with the car. 26 00:01:22,11.086373944 --> 00:01:23,421.086373944 Yeah, you don't need a van. 27 00:01:23,451.086373944 --> 00:01:23,841.086373944 You're right. 28 00:01:23,871.086373944 --> 00:01:24,621.086373944 Okay, cool. 29 00:01:25,11.086373944 --> 00:01:27,351.086373944 Well, hey, we were actually just on in our. 30 00:01:27,951.086373944 --> 00:01:43,51.08637394 What do we call it? Our Thursday meeting Stacy, Ben and I, were all partners on Fireside, so we, we called the Thursday Tribe meeting and we're talking about doing the work, and I thought, you know what, let's talk about doing the work today as our podcast episode. 31 00:01:43,531.08637394 --> 00:01:45,291.08637394 So let's talk about doing the work. 32 00:01:46,206.08637394 --> 00:01:58,506.08637394 If you are a follower of this podcast, I'm gonna automatically assume that you're an entrepreneur because this podcast is to those that are renting out their RVs. 33 00:01:58,806.08637394 --> 00:02:04,476.08637394 And I've said this many times before, if you didn't know this yet, if you are renting out your r. 34 00:02:04,936.08637394 --> 00:02:07,636.08637394 Guess what? You're in business, you have a business. 35 00:02:08,116.08637394 --> 00:02:19,6.08637394 Most people that start renting their rv, they think, well, we're gonna do it just to make some money on the side, cover some payments, this and that, which is great and true, but that means that you started a business. 36 00:02:19,426.08637394 --> 00:02:29,746.08637394 So when it comes to starting a business, there's things you didn't think about, right? Dealing with grumpy renters, or repairing campers, or figuring out your books. 37 00:02:30,66.08637394 --> 00:02:31,656.08637394 And stuff like that. 38 00:02:31,656.08637394 --> 00:02:34,326.08637394 And that's all part of just doing the work. 39 00:02:34,326.08637394 --> 00:02:35,946.08637394 So that's what we're gonna talk about today. 40 00:02:36,276.08637394 --> 00:02:37,176.08637394 Doing the work. 41 00:02:37,536.08637394 --> 00:02:41,346.08637394 Ben, what you gotta say about doing the work? Ooh, that sounds rough. 42 00:02:41,346.08637394 --> 00:02:41,796.08637394 Car. 43 00:02:41,896.08637394 --> 00:02:48,206.08637394 Yeah, I was gonna kind of go through some of my, my process that I currently do here at my branch in Gulf Shores. 44 00:02:48,776.08637394 --> 00:02:51,626.08637394 I wanted Stacy to poke holes in it 'cause she's a good consultant. 45 00:02:53,336.08637394 --> 00:02:53,786.08637394 That's true. 46 00:02:53,786.08637394 --> 00:02:54,146.08637394 She is. 47 00:02:54,146.08637394 --> 00:02:54,566.08637394 Yeah. 48 00:02:54,896.08637394 --> 00:02:55,136.08637394 Okay. 49 00:02:55,136.08637394 --> 00:03:01,561.08637394 So you want to talk about like your day-to-day of what you do at your Gulf SHO's location of the work that you do? Yeah. 50 00:03:01,826.08637394 --> 00:03:02,36.08637394 Yeah. 51 00:03:02,36.08637394 --> 00:03:02,606.08637394 I'd love to. 52 00:03:02,666.08637394 --> 00:03:11,816.08637394 So if you know the, the current process that I have, fireside sending the rv, that's your first, your first step, you know, getting your 10 RVs. 53 00:03:11,846.08637394 --> 00:03:14,156.08637394 So I'm asking this to, to more or less. 54 00:03:14,156.08637394 --> 00:03:21,356.08637394 Stacy, what I currently do is once they're on RVshare outdoorsy in the fireside website and my personal website. 55 00:03:21,951.08637394 --> 00:03:23,241.08637394 Renters are finding me online. 56 00:03:23,241.08637394 --> 00:03:26,241.08637394 I'm not doing any marketing, so these renters are finding me. 57 00:03:26,571.08637394 --> 00:03:33,381.08637394 Once they inquire, fireside Plus sends them the quote, they're going back and forth answering the renter's questions. 58 00:03:33,711.08637394 --> 00:03:44,361.08637394 Once that quote is confirmed, then I get an email saying, Hey Ben, you got a book reservation? Ben can then get on, whip around and assign a driver and a cleaner if declined. 59 00:03:44,661.08637394 --> 00:03:46,911.08637394 Assign a different driver and a different cleaner. 60 00:03:46,971.08637394 --> 00:03:56,241.08637394 I have a bullpen so that driver knows to go pick up that out of the storage lot, that RV and set it up at the end of it, the cleaner cleans it. 61 00:03:56,826.08637394 --> 00:04:01,716.08637394 When they're done cleaning, then it gets dropped back off in storage, rinse and repeat. 62 00:04:02,46.08637394 --> 00:04:08,886.08637394 If I get a phone call that the ACS out, I simply call my RV tech and I say, go to SOC 1 51. 63 00:04:09,246.08637394 --> 00:04:11,286.08637394 Please fix the AC bill. 64 00:04:11,286.08637394 --> 00:04:11,796.08637394 Me. 65 00:04:11,976.08637394 --> 00:04:12,876.08637394 I pay it. 66 00:04:12,936.08637394 --> 00:04:14,676.08637394 I take it out of the consignment owner's. 67 00:04:14,676.08637394 --> 00:04:16,836.08637394 Cut, rinse, and repeat. 68 00:04:19,506.08637394 --> 00:04:20,921.08637394 You make that sound way too easy. 69 00:04:22,296.08637394 --> 00:04:22,866.08637394 He does. 70 00:04:23,106.08637394 --> 00:04:26,916.08637394 Hey, just so everybody knows, Ben is a FA franchisee as well. 71 00:04:27,306.08637394 --> 00:04:29,676.08637394 So he is a, he's an equity owner in Fireside. 72 00:04:29,676.08637394 --> 00:04:34,116.08637394 He's a franchisee and he also does our franchisee sales calls. 73 00:04:34,866.08637394 --> 00:04:35,346.08637394 Okay. 74 00:04:35,346.08637394 --> 00:04:38,616.08637394 So yeah, so Ben does make it sound easy. 75 00:04:38,616.08637394 --> 00:04:40,566.08637394 We were actually just talking about this in our last meeting. 76 00:04:40,716.08637394 --> 00:04:45,186.08637394 Ben, you can't make it sound so easy because that first year you gotta do the work. 77 00:04:46,206.08637394 --> 00:04:55,886.08637394 You know, and because we've had a couple franchisees lately who are, are like, oh, I'm a little discouraged, this or that, whatever the scenario it is. 78 00:04:56,216.08637394 --> 00:04:58,586.08637394 And it's, it just comes down to doing the work. 79 00:04:59,196.08637394 --> 00:05:04,236.08637394 And, and I love what Myron Golden says, all work works. 80 00:05:04,536.08637394 --> 00:05:09,186.08637394 And then it goes on to say, it either works for you or it works on you so you can take an action. 81 00:05:09,696.08637394 --> 00:05:17,796.08637394 And get a result like Ben just explained an action result, but Ben didn't just step into action result, he built that over time. 82 00:05:18,396.08637394 --> 00:05:23,586.08637394 But before Ben got that action result, the work that he was doing was working on him. 83 00:05:24,216.08637394 --> 00:05:29,106.08637394 Right, Ben? Because I remember the calls I get from you, like, oh my gosh, I got this with my partner and that. 84 00:05:30,171.08637394 --> 00:05:33,231.08637394 I'm out here delivering a camper right now, and I wasn't planning on doing that. 85 00:05:33,231.08637394 --> 00:05:35,361.08637394 I should be at home wrestling my boys. 86 00:05:35,721.08637394 --> 00:05:44,541.08637394 So the work was working on Ben, and we talked about this several podcasts ago, is what was the saying? I came up with hard times, equal hard lines. 87 00:05:44,841.08637394 --> 00:05:51,301.08637394 When we do something enough that is painful to us, eventually that causes us to make a change. 88 00:05:52,306.08637394 --> 00:05:57,676.08637394 And we're either gonna change as far as we're just gonna walk away, we're gonna quit, or we're gonna make a change. 89 00:05:57,676.08637394 --> 00:05:59,686.08637394 Like, Hey, I need to figure out a good solution. 90 00:06:00,276.08637394 --> 00:06:02,496.08637394 And I don't wanna see anybody walk away and quit. 91 00:06:02,796.08637394 --> 00:06:07,566.08637394 I want to see you push into the pain of the moment and say, okay, I don't like this. 92 00:06:07,986.08637394 --> 00:06:17,76.08637394 How can I figure it out to where I don't have to be in this situation again? Or I situation the least, you know, amount of times is possible. 93 00:06:17,616.08637394 --> 00:06:31,166.08637394 What do you say about that, Stacy? Yeah, I think like really finding your why, like why did you decide to do this to begin with? You know, when we had our location, we had on average 20 units. 94 00:06:31,166.08637394 --> 00:06:36,176.08637394 My husband and I were working in the business full-time, and there were a lot of stressful moments. 95 00:06:36,176.08637394 --> 00:06:38,96.08637394 There were times where we thought about quitting. 96 00:06:38,771.08637394 --> 00:06:53,531.08637394 But when we thought about why we wanted a business to begin with and why we started doing it, it was so that we could, you know, lead a different lifestyle where we had time freedom and could spend more time with our kids. 97 00:06:53,841.08637394 --> 00:07:00,561.08637394 So I mean, we were a seasonal location, so we really only had, you know, five months out of the year that were crazy. 98 00:07:00,891.08637394 --> 00:07:01,156.08637394 And then. 99 00:07:02,76.08637394 --> 00:07:11,286.08637394 We worked really hard during those five months and then had the rest of the year where we could travel, homeschool our kids, and that was our why, so that we could show up for them. 100 00:07:11,646.08637394 --> 00:07:21,726.08637394 So, you know, really think about and even write it down what your why is and why you're doing that, and that helps get you through those hard times of when you're doing all of the work. 101 00:07:21,971.08637394 --> 00:07:22,391.08637394 Mm-hmm. 102 00:07:23,781.08637394 --> 00:07:24,831.08637394 Yeah, that's really good. 103 00:07:24,831.08637394 --> 00:07:26,841.08637394 You've gotta know the why, why you're doing it. 104 00:07:27,231.08637394 --> 00:07:46,591.08637394 So if you're just renting your single rv and the why is because you want to help offset some payments to where it doesn't cost you much to own it, well then extend your nightly minimum and only take one rental a month, you know, or whatever you know, fig, because you could easily create yourself a job when you didn't want one. 105 00:07:46,591.08637394 --> 00:07:48,706.08637394 Here was the original why of why you wanted to do it. 106 00:07:49,411.08637394 --> 00:08:08,591.08637394 Or if you're like us faith-filled entrepreneurs and you want to not have a nine to five or a, you know, corporate job or employer telling you when and when you can't work and how much you can make and all those things, and you wanna live life on your terms then you gotta know, hey, there's, I've gotta put in the work to get to that. 107 00:08:09,221.08637394 --> 00:08:13,61.08637394 And like Ben was just sharing, Ben has put in the work to get to that moment. 108 00:08:14,6.08637394 --> 00:08:16,376.08637394 And and so now he gets to enjoy the fruits of that. 109 00:08:16,586.08637394 --> 00:08:24,86.08637394 But in the meantime it just made me think what Myron Golden says in the meantime and in between time, I love Myron Golden. 110 00:08:24,86.08637394 --> 00:08:26,456.08637394 If y'all don't know who Myron Golden is, check him out on YouTube. 111 00:08:26,726.08637394 --> 00:08:28,736.08637394 Phenomenal faith-filled entrepreneur. 112 00:08:29,226.08637394 --> 00:08:32,901.08637394 In the meantime, in between time you gotta do the work and. 113 00:08:33,711.08637394 --> 00:08:47,431.08637394 Work is not enjoyable sometimes, right? There can be stress, sweat, all the things involved, but like Stacy said, have that why in front of you, so why I'm going to do this right now. 114 00:08:47,971.08637394 --> 00:08:52,141.08637394 And then that will keep you hopeful and motivated and encouraged. 115 00:08:52,531.08637394 --> 00:08:58,711.08637394 'cause one of the things that we've learned in the Fireside family is, you know, we're a group of Christian entrepreneurs doing life together. 116 00:08:59,821.08637394 --> 00:09:06,421.08637394 And a lot of people find us through one of our ads or YouTube or whatever it is, and they're like, man, these are my people. 117 00:09:06,421.08637394 --> 00:09:07,801.08637394 I wanna do life with them. 118 00:09:08,221.08637394 --> 00:09:09,451.08637394 And that excites them. 119 00:09:09,451.08637394 --> 00:09:16,391.08637394 And they, and then they sign up to start a fireside franchise and then they realize, oh man, now it's time to do the work. 120 00:09:16,931.08637394 --> 00:09:28,1.08637394 There's that lonely part of in the day-to-day where you're just doing the work, right? If first, one of your first goals is to build your fleet, you're reaching out to 50 or a hundred RV owners a day. 121 00:09:28,301.08637394 --> 00:09:29,381.08637394 That is not fun. 122 00:09:29,381.08637394 --> 00:09:35,711.08637394 I mean, if it is fun to you, then you're a little weird, but, but it's just not fun to do that. 123 00:09:35,741.08637394 --> 00:09:38,261.08637394 Right? But it's part of doing the work. 124 00:09:38,741.08637394 --> 00:09:43,511.08637394 So we just want to encourage you guys today, like Stacy said, have your why. 125 00:09:43,781.08637394 --> 00:09:46,541.08637394 Like Ben said, Hey, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. 126 00:09:46,571.08637394 --> 00:09:50,591.08637394 You can get everything in place to where you can enjoy the fruits of that labor. 127 00:09:50,621.08637394 --> 00:09:53,981.08637394 But in the meantime, you're doing the labor, you're doing the hard part. 128 00:09:56,441.08637394 --> 00:09:57,191.08637394 It's good stuff. 129 00:09:57,491.08637394 --> 00:10:01,931.08637394 And I think too, like you can from the early days when I first started, it's easy. 130 00:10:01,961.08637394 --> 00:10:04,661.08637394 It is kind of like I can find, we overcomplicate. 131 00:10:04,661.08637394 --> 00:10:14,921.08637394 A common question that gets brought up is how do you, how do you find drivers, you know, how do you have a bullpen of drivers? I can find, go into Stacy's, you know, comment about around soccer practice. 132 00:10:15,101.08637394 --> 00:10:19,31.08637394 I can go to soccer, prep my kids' games and, and I can find two drivers. 133 00:10:19,351.08637394 --> 00:10:20,671.08637394 You just gotta put yourself out there. 134 00:10:20,671.08637394 --> 00:10:22,411.08637394 So I'll see somebody pull in with a truck. 135 00:10:22,816.08637394 --> 00:10:25,336.08637394 And, and, and I'll probably know that person. 136 00:10:25,336.08637394 --> 00:10:31,221.08637394 There's a good chance you know that person, especially if your kid plays ball with 'em and just ask 'em, say, Hey man, you know, do you ever. 137 00:10:32,626.08637394 --> 00:10:34,186.08637394 Have any interest of doing this. 138 00:10:34,456.08637394 --> 00:10:37,906.08637394 And another misconception is, Hey Ben, that's more money out of pocket. 139 00:10:37,936.08637394 --> 00:10:39,886.08637394 I, we charge the renter for delivery. 140 00:10:40,96.08637394 --> 00:10:45,556.08637394 So then I kind of figure out what that guy charges or what he would want to do that delivery. 141 00:10:45,616.08637394 --> 00:10:49,336.08637394 And that's what I charge in the delivery fee that the renter actually pays. 142 00:10:49,606.08637394 --> 00:10:52,186.08637394 So don't, don't get in your in your own way. 143 00:10:52,216.08637394 --> 00:10:55,876.08637394 That's the number one problem I see in this industry is people get in their own way. 144 00:10:56,226.08637394 --> 00:10:58,926.08637394 They're not, you know, getting their 10 units first. 145 00:10:58,926.08637394 --> 00:11:02,796.08637394 They're not actually talking and networking with the community and finding those drivers. 146 00:11:03,66.08637394 --> 00:11:05,316.08637394 I can find four or five cleaners at church. 147 00:11:05,406.08637394 --> 00:11:07,776.08637394 I can find five drivers at my kids' ball game. 148 00:11:07,866.08637394 --> 00:11:10,626.08637394 Like, just don't overcomplicate it. 149 00:11:13,716.08637394 --> 00:11:14,826.08637394 Yeah, that's a really good point. 150 00:11:14,826.08637394 --> 00:11:25,166.08637394 And I know the other day when we did our fireside chat with our franchisees, we had one location she had 16 units going out to an event. 151 00:11:25,701.08637394 --> 00:11:42,801.08637394 She mentioned how she was paying a cleaner more than she would normally pay, but she said how it helped her so much to have that load off of her mind, knowing that it was being done correctly, where she used to pay a different, cleaner, less money, but they didn't do as good of a job. 152 00:11:43,731.08637394 --> 00:11:50,211.08637394 So once you find that person, make sure that you know you're compensating them well so that they stick with you. 153 00:11:50,481.08637394 --> 00:11:58,221.08637394 But know that once you find that person too, that allows you to focus on so many other parts of the business that are gonna bring in more money. 154 00:11:58,491.08637394 --> 00:12:01,611.08637394 So don't be afraid to pay that person to do the work. 155 00:12:02,961.08637394 --> 00:12:03,501.08637394 Hundred percent. 156 00:12:03,501.08637394 --> 00:12:04,11.08637394 Yeah, definitely. 157 00:12:04,131.08637394 --> 00:12:12,441.08637394 You gotta, you gotta learn where and when to outsource and know that that time is gonna free you up to do other money making activities. 158 00:12:12,861.08637394 --> 00:12:21,591.08637394 It's so easy, you know, like the, the old book, the E-Myth, it's so easy to get stuck on one portion of the business thinking that's gonna be where you're gonna make your money. 159 00:12:21,591.08637394 --> 00:12:26,421.08637394 Where it's really, you gotta look at all facets of the business and see where is your time best spent. 160 00:12:26,481.08637394 --> 00:12:26,841.08637394 So. 161 00:12:27,531.08637394 --> 00:12:27,891.08637394 Awesome. 162 00:12:27,891.08637394 --> 00:12:31,191.08637394 Y'all we're gonna call that a wrap for this episode because I have a meeting. 163 00:12:31,731.08637394 --> 00:12:33,21.08637394 In like six more minutes. 164 00:12:33,21.08637394 --> 00:12:35,211.08637394 So we're gonna call that a wrap. 165 00:12:35,271.08637394 --> 00:12:38,751.08637394 That was fun talking about, just want to encourage y'all do the work. 166 00:12:38,781.08637394 --> 00:12:44,211.08637394 Lemme see if I can find a post-it here in front of me to share something encouraging about work. 167 00:12:44,641.08637394 --> 00:12:46,831.08637394 Proverbs 1423. 168 00:12:47,191.08637394 --> 00:12:51,391.08637394 In all labor there is prophet, so kind of like back to Uncle Myron. 169 00:12:51,706.08637394 --> 00:12:52,816.08637394 All work works. 170 00:12:53,216.08637394 --> 00:12:57,686.08637394 Don't ever feel like you're just spinning your wheels doing something. 171 00:12:58,226.08637394 --> 00:13:00,806.08637394 So say you're doing something, you feel like, oh my gosh, this is frustrating. 172 00:13:00,806.08637394 --> 00:13:01,616.08637394 I'm spinning my wheels. 173 00:13:01,616.08637394 --> 00:13:03,26.08637394 I feel like I'm getting nowhere. 174 00:13:03,296.08637394 --> 00:13:04,136.08637394 Stop. 175 00:13:04,466.08637394 --> 00:13:12,746.08637394 Realize that in all labor there is profit, and get curious and say, okay, what am I learning in this moment? And, oh, what I'm learning is I hate cleaning campers. 176 00:13:12,746.08637394 --> 00:13:14,276.08637394 I'm gonna hire someone to do it for me. 177 00:13:14,756.08637394 --> 00:13:17,946.08637394 Or what I'm learning is these Friday to Sunday rentals. 178 00:13:18,696.08637394 --> 00:13:21,726.08637394 Suck the life out of me and pull me away from my family. 179 00:13:22,86.08637394 --> 00:13:28,266.08637394 I'm gonna start doing a a, a longer minimum to where it's not gonna be dropped off on Friday and picked up on a Sunday. 180 00:13:28,776.08637394 --> 00:13:31,266.08637394 So just remember, in all labor there's profit. 181 00:13:31,266.08637394 --> 00:13:36,786.08637394 So if you're feeling frustrated, if you're feeling painful in the moment, there's a lesson to be learned there. 182 00:13:37,56.08637394 --> 00:13:39,936.08637394 So press into that pain, get curious and see what the lesson is. 183 00:13:39,936.08637394 --> 00:13:44,616.08637394 So thanks y'all for coming on to another episode of RV Rental Secrets podcast. 184 00:13:44,946.08637394 --> 00:13:46,51.08637394 We'll see you all on the next.