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I think it's very tempting to parent out of fear in this
situation, but I want to remind parents that we actually don't
have to parent from a place of fear.
We can parent from a place of hope because we serve a God who
is bigger than pornography. Hey everybody, welcome back to
the Schoolhouse Rock podcast. I'm Abby Rinella, and I'm so
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excited to be back with you again this week with my friend,
my sister in Christ, my hero, mymentor, Greta Eskridge.
And last week we talked about what felt like a really hard and
scary topic and ended up not being.
It's just another step into being an A great parent that
loves our kids and protects themand equips them for what the
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world is selling them and preparing them and pointing them
to Jesus. So we're going to dive back into
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They say calculus. I'm like, that is way scarier
than pornography. I agree with you 100%.
That word every time I read thatI like start to have sweat like
hot flashes right? Makes this topic seem easy.
OK, so here does. That to do this conversation
with, I'm not kidding you like this is incredible.
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You're so right. Calculus is way scarier than
porn. It's way.
Scarier than porn people and andhonestly our kids need equipped
against porn. I don't always know if they need
calculus, but that is for another episode.
OK, so last we left off with youtalking about just some
practical. How do we do this?
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When do we start? How early, how this is an
ongoing conversation, not a one and done.
How you know it's through walking through everything in
the day-to-day having these conversations.
But another thing, Greta, that Ihave learned from you just in
our phone conversations in our friendship is I remember you.
You are the most gracious, kind and loving person because you
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and I were talking one time. We just, we love to talk about
everything. And I was like, oh, you know,
this, this is, you know, my husband talks to, you know, our
son about this. And so that's, that's really
great. He's talking about.
And then I opened the book and I'm like, wait a minute, I
should be talking to my son about this too.
Like, but you were so sweet because you didn't correct me on
the spot where in hindsight you should have been like, what,
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Abby, why aren't you talking about it?
But you, you're the woman for this because you are.
You're just full of grace and mercy because because you've
walked through it, right? You've walked through it.
And so you understand. But that leads me to want to
talk about that. This isn't just a dad and son
conversation. And it it it is a dad and son
conversation. It's incredibly important that
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our men are speaking to future men about this, but it's also a
conversation for moms to have with their daughters and for
even wait for it moms to have with their sons.
And I want you and. Dads with daughters.
And dads with daughters, like, Iwant you to, to share this, but
I want to share a little bit of my like, as I'm reading through
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this book and implementing this and doing this, I was like, OK,
I'm going to do the scary thing and I'm going to like just bring
it up in casual conversation with my son.
And I was like waiting for like the revolting or the vomiting or
the, and, and he responded like he would have responded if I was
like, Hey, you know, want to whatever.
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Like it didn't blow it, it didn't freak him out.
It didn't like he was just like,oh, mom's talking to me about
life. And and you're right, they don't
like it's all in our heads that fear that we have that they're
going to to respond a certain way.
But I really want you to talk about how, the how and the why
behind this isn't just a father son conversation.
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Well, first of all, it's not just a conversation for the men
because pornography is not simply a male issue.
It impacts men, it impacts women, it impacts children.
It is a human issue. So therefore, all of us need to
address it, right? And, and it's not just men who
are using pornography, Women usepornography too.
That means we need to prepare our girls to reject pornography
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just like we would prepare our boys.
There's the the number of young women using pornography is
growing at an incredibly rapid rate because they are growing up
in a highly sexualized culture that is pushing porn at them and
telling them it's normal. And this is what everybody does.
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Also, there are a lot of kids who are turning to pornography
for their sex education, like, and, and that feels like what?
How very kidding. And it's not just kids who are,
you know, going to traditional school.
It could be a homeschooled kid. Maybe not when they're 12, maybe
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not till they're 20. But they're like, I don't really
know anything about this. I hear other people talking
about it. I don't know what's expected of
me. I I don't understand this world.
I guess this is what I do and I Google it and here I go.
Wow. So I want to pause on that for a
minute because that just made methink of a story you shared in
the book. But also what you're saying is
so we aren't just talking to ourkids about porn, but we also
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need to be talking to our kids about how healthy God created
sex so that when they get in that position, like you said,
they're not like, I'm not reallysure what to do here.
So and then they go down this horrific where what the enemy
wants to steal, right? And so so share a little bit
about that because you shared that in the book.
But I think that is so importantis that we don't just cut, we
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don't just go from nothing to the porn talk.
There is there's a positive side, right?
Like God created and designed marriage to be good.
So. So camp out on that a little
bit. I have a whole chapter about
what it looks like to create a healthy sexual culture in your
home. And that is actually an antidote
to porn. Because when you begin from the
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time your kids are little to give them an understanding that
their body is made in God's image, that their body is
designed with a purpose. Every part is designed with a
purpose. Yes, even the sexual parts and
that they're not bad. They are designed with a purpose
though. And you don't have to get into
the purpose when they're two, obviously, but they begin to
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understand like, Oh yeah, your, your body is made by God and
your body is good. And when we begin with that idea
in mind, that begins to create that healthy sexual culture in
our home where there isn't this,like, we don't talk about it.
We don't say anything about sex or porn or anything like that
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because we just don't know how. And it begins to create this
kind of atmosphere of shame and fear.
Instead, we are like, yeah, God made your body's good.
And then when they're old enough, you begin to have the
conversations about where babiescome from and what sex is.
And God made sex good. And we're not afraid of it.
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We're not ashamed or embarrassed.
It has a purpose and a place. And they know that too.
But when we do that, we are are saying eventually porn is a
twisting of God's good design and therefore we want to reject
it because it's not his best forus.
It's actually what Satan is using to try to trick us and
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give us a counterfeit. And those conversations span the
whole life of your child. Obviously you're not having
those conversations with your 5 year old, but you're laying the
groundwork so that when your kids, 15 or 25, you can have
those conversations and prepare them for God's good gift.
Wow, I love that. And and that's always we always
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point back. I mean, that's that's the thing.
That's the purpose of this podcast.
That's the purpose of our lives.That's the purpose of what
you're doing is pointing back toGod really does have a plan and
a purpose and something good, right?
And so that's awesome. OK, we kind of detoured.
So take us back a little bit to the the this isn't just a dad
son conversation. So so go back to that for me,
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would you? So yeah, it's not just a dad son
conversation because like I said, it's impacting men, women,
children. It impacts everybody.
Porn is a human issue. We all have to deal with it.
And when we are able to as a moms have those conversations
with our sons and our daughters,we are showing them that women
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are worthy of respect and honor.That is not happening in
pornography. In pornography, women are abused
and treated as objects and they're discarded and cast
aside. That is not how God created
women to be treated. So as a as a mom, as a woman,
when you stand up and you say pornography is is evil and it is
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wrong, you are letting your sonsand daughters know that it is
not OK for for a woman to be treated like this.
It is not OK for a man to ever treat a woman in this way.
That's an important thing our kids need to hear, not just from
the dads, but from the moms too.We need our daughters to
understand you should never be treated in this way.
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You stand up for yourself and say this is not OK.
Our sons need to know this is not the way a woman deserves to
be treated and they need to hearthat from us too.
The other thing that is really hard to talk about in this
context, but it's so important is there are dads, Adam would
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say statistically, there are more dads than moms struggling
with using porn. And that causes dads sometimes
not to want to talk about it because they're dealing with
this issue in their very own lives.
They're dealing with the shame and the struggle.
And so they're like, how could Itell my kids not to use porn if
it is an issue in my own life? And statistically speaking, for
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many men, it is for women too. But like I said, statistically,
it's more men at this point thanwomen.
And so if your husband is unwilling or unable to have the
conversation with your kids, then as a mom, you need to step
into that place. And again, that is a really hard
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thing to face, but it's an important reality that's
happening in a lot of families. And so we need to, because the
health and safety of our kids are at stake.
And so we need to do something about that.
Right, well, and it's like anything else.
I don't not talk to my kids about something 'cause I'm
struggling with it, right? Like I might struggle with, I
mean, I might struggle with envyand I'm not going to never talk
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to my kids about envy, right? Or I might struggle with all
sorts of things. And I think there's even,
there's even something about that that we can say, Hey, you
know what? This is a struggle we all have,
but God is bigger and, and I'm still going to, I'm still going
to warn you of the threats, right?
And so, so that's really good. I really like that.
So before we go to a break, I want, I have a, a question that
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I'm, I'm hoping you can help me wrap my head around, but how do
I educate myself? Because in your book it talks
about like, we need to give themterms or things that are out
there. How do I educate myself when
this it isn't something that I necessarily struggle with or I
don't even like like I had a friend call the other day and
she's like, Oh my gosh, did you hear about this, this thing that
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kids are now doing on TikTok or whatever in these terms?
And I'm like, how can I warn my kids about something I is so
foreign? I don't even know.
Like I guess I'm kind of ignorant, but I also don't want
to like start Googling stuff to educate myself because that's
terrifying too. So how do we How do we stay
educated to educate our kids? So in in my book, I put at the
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end of the book a whole section of like important terms that I
think parents need to be aware of.
And then a lot of them are actually things we need to talk
to our kids about before they, you know, enter adulthood
because there are things that kids are going to face.
And I did that because I, I didn't want them, you know, in a
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crisis moment or even in a non crisis moment where they're
like, oh, I need to know about this thing, but I don't want to
Google it, right? Where do I go?
And so I talk about things like how do you address like maps,
minor attracted persons. That's the term that is used
now. How do you deal?
With that, that term didn't exist, you know, when I was
going through this. So those are things.
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So are you going to update A blog post like every couple
months as you think because the world is changing?
The world changes stuff. Yeah, I I actually haven't even
thought that far ahead. But again, you are just knocking
it out of the park. So yeah.
That means, you know that every few months I'm going to be like,
OK. Grab me a scoop.
There are other, there are otherorganizations and groups who do
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that. They're like, okay, these are
the 10 things middle schoolers are saying right now that they
see all over to talk. And so you could find, you know,
like I know one that that does that is an organization called
Bark and they have a website that keeps kids safer online if
they're on social media. Like it notifies like these are
like we noticed like bullying language in your kids messages
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and it notifies the parent. And I know Bark, for example,
they will do an Instagram post will though where they will say
like, these are the things middle schoolers are saying
right now. Do you know what they mean?
So even following like 1 you know, one Instagram account and
keeping track of it that way would be a good way to educate
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yourself. OK, that's awesome.
I love that. These are such good practical
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We are back and this is our lastsegment to cover this most
important topic. So I have, I have one more
question that it has been rumbling around in my mind as
I'm processing all this and I'm sure others have it, but and
then we'll really dive into somefun stuff.
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But how, how can I warn my kids and talk to my kids about this
stuff without triggering them to, to want something or to have
that curiosity that, you know, it almost feels like dangerous
to be like, did you know that there's this thing on the
Internet that lures us in like, where is that balance?
How do you do that? Explain that a little bit.
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Well, I think that like if we use language like you just used,
there's this thing on the Internet that lures us in that
sounds intriguing. So don't use that language.
And I think when we keep it verystraightforward and very simple,
like in the example I gave in our episode last week where we
talked about like, there's this thing called pornography.
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You don't tell your kids the details of like, oh, this is
where you find it. This is what it looks like.
Like you give them, I always saythe least amount of information.
And that I think helps limit thecuriosity.
But we all know, we all have at least one kid who's the more
curious one, the one who asked more questions, the one that's,
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you know, the deep thinker. That's not just like, I just
want to go play with my matchboxscars and I'll talk about deep
stuff. We, that kid might be the one
who is curious. And I think it's important,
therefore, for a parent to address that, especially with
your kid who, you know, is the curious one.
And you can say to them if you have questions and you are, you
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know, curious about what I'm talking about and you want to
know more, you can ask me. I will answer your questions.
I will be here to help you. I will talk to you and share
with you as much as I can to keep you safe because you want
to acknowledge that they might be curious but you want to
direct them back to you. There is no.
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Guaranteeing them any reason to go look for it, right?
We're removing any reason that they would have to go look for
and. We're going to say it's not
safe, it's not good for you withthe hope that that is a
deterrent, But there is no guarantee you won't have.
There won't be a kid who's like,well, I want to know what that
is. But I I would say again and
again, and so many other people who are in this field with me
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would say the potential danger of saying nothing is greater
than the potential danger of them looking because we have
equipped them. And that's hard to sit with
because we don't want to endanger our kids.
But if you think about it in terms of, like you said, this
poisonous Berry when you're out hiking, like, well, we don't
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want to make them afraid to touch any Berry until we get any
Berry. But but we need to tell them for
sure that there is a Berry that could kill them if they eat it.
Like that is more important thanthe potential danger of them
being scared of them being like,well, I wonder if this is a
Berry I could try. Like they could do that.
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You have that curious kid, But it's more important to keep them
safe from the ultimate danger. Right, I agree.
And I also think it it just sharing with them that, you
know, eating the poisonous Berryis going to eliminate any chance
of eating the good Berry. Like pornography is going to
ruin a really great sex life andmarriage someday, right?
And eating the poisonous Berry, well, you'll be dead.
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So you don't get to eat the delicious Berry that's five feet
down the trail, right? Like.
Yeah. And those are conversations you
have with your team. Like that is a real, like,
honest conversation that you need to have with an older teen.
Like, this isn't just about keeping you safe from bad
images. By the time your kids, an older
teen be like yeah, this will have an impact on healthy,
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beautiful sex life with your spouse in the future.
It can impact you for your wholelife.
Right, right. And I think you said something
else that I want parents to know.
This isn't a guarantee. Greta's book isn't a formula.
Just like we know that homeschooling does not guarantee
your kids are going to get saved.
Talking to your kids about pornography isn't going.
It's going to definitely reduce the chances.
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It's going to give them a fighting chance to stay away
from it. But at the end of the day, we as
parents know that it really, it's going to be prayer and it's
going to be the Holy Spirit. And I want to say that our
greatest line of defense, even before preparing is praying.
And it but it can't end there. We have to pray for our kids.
We have to seek the Lord. We have to ask for conviction in
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their own hearts. And then we have to prepare
them. And then at the end of the day,
we do this out of obedience to God, not because we're
guaranteed an outcome, right? And so we obey God by by giving
our kids what they need to navigate this, this crazy and
insane world. So, OK, so Greta, before we kind
of deviate a little from that, is there any other like just
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something on your heart from this book that you just feel
like you have to share? Well, I, I love what you said
about prayer and I think that that brings us back to a place
of hope. I think it's very tempting to
parent out of fear in this situation, but I want to remind
parents that we actually don't have to parent from a place of
fear. We can parent from a place of
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hope because we serve a God who is bigger than pornography.
One of my favorite quotes, an additional one in the when I
shared last week was is from Corey Tenboom and actually from
her sister Betsy when they were in a Nazi concentration camp.
And Betsy said there's no pit sodeep that God's love is not
deeper still. And I think about that in terms
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of pornography for so many of uswere like, oh, I'm paralyzed by
this deep, dark pit. And I think there's no way to
climb out of it. If my kid is exposed, it's the
end of the story. If I'm dealing with it in my
marriage, it's the end of the story.
And it's not. There is no pit so deep that got
God's love is not deeper still. He is bigger than than even the
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pit of pornography. And He can help protect your
kids and He can help if they're exposed, if they're struggling.
He is bigger than that. And that can give us hope in a
seemingly really dark place. God is bigger.
Right, Well, I mean, just look at your story, right, with the
enemy meant for evil, and I meanjust the incredible, the
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incredible gift that you are andand families wouldn't be reached
if that wouldn't have happened. God totally redeemed it.
So can you share a Bible verse that got you through your
hardest times? Yeah, I love the verse from
Romans 12/21 that says do not beovercome by evil, but overcome
evil with good because it gave me two places to step into God's
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like healing power to not be overcome by the evil that had
happened in my own marriage in in our life.
And to not just be laid flat andsay I'm without hope and without
healing, but then to overcome evil with good.
It gave me like an action step like, oh, we can work on healing
our marriage. We can work on healing our
family and now we can work on helping other families find
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healing. So that's one of my most
favorite verses. I.
Love that verse. And do you have a specific verse
that you would leave with parents as we are feeling?
This I think every kid needs to learn Psalm 13914 and to
memorize it. I praise you because I am
fearfully and wonderfully made. Your works are wonderful.
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I know that full well. I believe every kid needs to
know that they are made in God'simage and so are other humans.
Because when they know that truth and they hold on to it,
then they know they need to treat others with the respect
and honor they deserve. Because they are human beings
made in God's image. I love that.
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I love that. Thank you.
Thank you. OK, so I'm going to show
everybody right now. Here it comes.
If you're on YouTube, you get tosee how cute this important book
is OK, let me find so this is it.
It's time to talk to your kids about porn.
And you can find this book anywhere that you can find
books. And I, I, I want to tell you,
this is not a suggestion. This book is a must have there.
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There is really no other book like this.
There's no other book that's written with a mom heart.
But also with the research and the wisdom and the experience
and the, I mean, just the tips and tricks.
It was so readable. It just, it made sense.
I didn't read this very lofty idea and then have to try to
figure it out on my own. I mean, you gave the heart, the
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idea, the big picture, and then you gave step by step action
plans. I mean, you even gave like if
parents are really nervous, you gave like, OK, follow this, read
this right here is here is the problem to actually, yes,
scripts. I mean, there's scripts in here.
It is such an important book andand I would say buy it now.
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If you are pregnant by this book, put this book, read it.
Read it in each season that yourkids are in because Greta has
broken it down. Like, how do you talk to the
little kids? How do you talk to the older?
It's not a one and done book. It is a resource for guiding,
for equipping, for protecting our children.
So get this book. And now before we close out, I
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just want to ask you, Greta, because you are, you're just
such a fun friend. I want to ask you all the fun
things. Plus on a heavy topic like this,
we wanna, we wanna like end verylight hearted.
But I think you already did thatwith the message of hope.
And I, I, I pray that that is what parents leave and, and when
they, when they turn off their phones from listening to this,
that they feel hopeful, not afraid, not defeated, but almost
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excited and hopeful that whetheryou're just starting your
parenting journey, you have the hope that that you get to do
this. Whether you're done and you feel
like you made mistakes, you havethe hope that God can redeem all
things. So, OK, but before we leave, I'm
going to just like fire off somefun questions.
What is your favorite book? My favorite book is by Corey 10
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Boom and it's the hiding place that's.
My favorite that's the best who's also the producer must
it's it's the best book. It really is.
I love it. They were like, you're twins.
You're twins, even. So many ways that is the OK.
So I have to ask you, did you read the second one that was
called? It's the second book and I've
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read. So many of her books, but I I
don't remember. So there's one that's all about,
I can't remember the name, but it's what happened after once
she was released, like her wholemission and going to the States
and all that. Tramp for the Lord.
Yes, Tramp for the Lord. Yeah.
It wasn't anywhere near as good as a hiding place.
Not not. There's no book that is good is.
Good. She is buried Corey Tenboom is
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buried like 20 minutes from our house and a few years ago we
found that out and my my youngest son who loves Corey so
much he wants to name one of hisdaughters Corey.
One day we took a bouquet of tulips and we laid it on her
grave and we just said a prayer like to thank God for her life,
like it was so powerful I. Didn't realize she was buried in
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California. Yeah, I thought she would be
buried in Holland. I was like.
So surprised for sure me. Too end of her life she spent in
Southern California and that's where she was buried.
So I have a deep, abiding love for Corey and she's so
important. OK, so then the third book
Yvette is always telling me to read and it's called The Five
Silent Years. Yeah, I've had that is about the
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end of her life. Yeah, okay.
I have not read it because I think it could probably.
I'm just assuming it's a boring book because how do you have 5
silent years and write a whole book?
But everybody says it's amazing so I need to just get it and
read it. Read.
Almost everything she's written because she's just silent for
someone. She's amazing.
Okay, well that was a good answer.
You passed and I, I was going toask you what your favorite quote
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is, but I feel like it's probably already one of the ones
that you've shared. Is that right?
I was actually going to share either the Corey 10 boom or the
Elizabeth Elliott quote from thelast.
Episode. So yeah, OK, we'll say them
again so that people can get outyour pen and paper ready.
Tell us. Elizabeth Elliott's was of one
thing. I am sure God's story never ends
in ashes. It's so hopeful and so powerful.
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And then the quote isn't actually Corey's, it's Betsy's,
Her sister. But it's close enough.
And Betsy said there is no pit so deep that God's love is not
deeper. So.
I love those. I love those and honestly, Betsy
was just I mean she was incredible.
Yes, OK, we already did favoriteBible verse.
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Do you have a favorite worship song?
Just one that you right. Now, right now, I've probably
listened to it 20 times in the last like week is Thank you
Jesus for the Blood by Charity Gale.
And it is just so beautiful. My kids are like, how many times
are you going to listen? To my kids do that all the time,
over and over and over and they're like mom.
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There's other songs, but when you find one song you play and
you have to play it loud too, like that is a prerequisite Over
and over and over. So that's if my current
favorite. I have many though, so we could
spend a whole podcast on that. A whole podcast on good songs.
OK, Share with us your funniest moment in parenting this.
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One really embarrassing. This was years ago and I was
doing science with the kids and we were reading about scorpions.
I think it was scorpions, yeah. And I like, apparently could not
do the math in my head, 'cause I'm telling the kids I'm like
this, Oh my gosh, you guys, thisscorpion is almost 5 feet tall.
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That's what I said. And they're like, they looked at
me and they're like, what? And then I I'm a picture.
Again, but tall scorpion in my mind right now.
Mom, that is not are you crazy? What is what are the numbers in
the book? And then I said it was like, I
don't know, 58 inches or something.
And they're like, that's no, you're that's in a movie maybe,
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but that's not real. And then they like looked at
what it said and it said like, Idon't know, 10 inches or
something. And I had just done it wrong in
my head. Checked you ever?
Said checked me so hard and I will never live it down.
They're like oh remember when mom said that there was a 5 foot
Scorpius? That is so funny.
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That is hilarious. I have done those things.
And then you're like, shoot, nowyou're never going to believe
me, but I want to tell you that 99.9% of the things I tell you
are accurate. They're just maybe there's a 5
foot scorpion somewhere. Yeah, I've I've looked multiple
times to. Try to prove myself.
Right now, maybe only in like ifit's.
Nightmares. In.
Nightmares. Oh, my goodness.
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OK, Well, Greta, we this has been such a fun episode with you
and so encouraging and so hopeful and so necessary.
And I just want you to carry us out and just tell us if one mom
if if a mom and a dad could takeone thing, 'cause there was a
lot of information here. We'll have to re listen to this
a bunch. If there was just one take away
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from this episode, what would itbe?
The take away is really the title of my book is It's Time to
Talk to Your Kids About Porn. You need to have that first
conversation and step into it courageously and know that God
will give you what you need to talk to your kids because He
prepared you for this job and have that first conversation and
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then you'll find the next one will be easier and then the next
one after that. It's time and we are raising our
kids in this moment, not accidentally.
God put us here. We need to equip our kids for
the time that they're growing upin.
It's time for kids about porn. It's time, it's time, Amen.
And we're in it together, right?We're in it together.
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And if every parent would have the conversation, then more and
more kids are going to get the message right.
And that is so important. So again, I'm putting it right
here. We're going to link it in the
show notes. It's time to talk to your kids
about porn. Greta Eskridge.
Where can people find you find? Me on Instagram you can find me
at my website gretaeskrich.com, my podcast, the Greta Eskrich
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Show, and find me wherever booksare sold.
You'll find my book everywhere and.
Really where where you'll find Greta is out adventuring and
having a blast and having fun and building relationships with
her children. That's where you'll usually find
her. We can't thank you enough,
Greta. You guys can always find me
anywhere. Just type in Abby Rinella and I
will probably be there. Usually I'm scrubbing toilets
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and loading dishwashers and thatsort of thing, so you'll also
find me there. Greta, we love you.
Thank you for being so bold, so courageous, for doing the hard
thing on behalf of all moms and dads, for equipping us to equip
our kids, and for allowing the Lord to use your story for His
glory. We cannot thank you enough.
We love you. Thanks so much for joining us
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We remain culture proof. I realized how insidious, how
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The root is very deep. Some very prominent Christian
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And whereas of course I want to have empathy and love, no doubt,
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You can't separate those things from God's truth.
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We can't separate those two things.
I think it's very tempting to parent out of fear in this
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excited to be back with you again this week with my friend,
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And last week we talked about what felt like a really hard and
scary topic and ended up not being.
It's just another step into being an A great parent that
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They say calculus. I'm like, that is way scarier
than pornography. I agree with you 100%.
That word every time I read thatI like start to have sweat like
hot flashes right? Makes this topic seem easy.
OK, so here does. That to do this conversation
with, I'm not kidding you like this is incredible.
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You're so right. Calculus is way scarier than
porn. It's way.
Scarier than porn people and andhonestly our kids need equipped
against porn. I don't always know if they need
calculus, but that is for another episode.
OK, so last we left off with youtalking about just some
practical. How do we do this?
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When do we start? How early, how this is an
ongoing conversation, not a one and done.
How you know it's through walking through everything in
the day-to-day having these conversations.
But another thing, Greta, that Ihave learned from you just in
our phone conversations in our friendship is I remember you.
You are the most gracious, kind and loving person because you
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and I were talking one time. We just, we love to talk about
everything. And I was like, oh, you know,
this, this is, you know, my husband talks to, you know, our
son about this. And so that's, that's really
great. He's talking about.
And then I opened the book and I'm like, wait a minute, I
should be talking to my son about this too.
Like, but you were so sweet because you didn't correct me on
the spot where in hindsight you should have been like, what,
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Abby, why aren't you talking about it?
But you, you're the woman for this because you are.
You're just full of grace and mercy because because you've
walked through it, right? You've walked through it.
And so you understand. But that leads me to want to
talk about that. This isn't just a dad and son
conversation. And it it it is a dad and son
conversation. It's incredibly important that
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our men are speaking to future men about this, but it's also a
conversation for moms to have with their daughters and for
even wait for it moms to have with their sons.
And I want you and. Dads with daughters.
And dads with daughters, like, Iwant you to, to share this, but
I want to share a little bit of my like, as I'm reading through
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this book and implementing this and doing this, I was like, OK,
I'm going to do the scary thing and I'm going to like just bring
it up in casual conversation with my son.
And I was like waiting for like the revolting or the vomiting or
the, and, and he responded like he would have responded if I was
like, Hey, you know, want to whatever.
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Like it didn't blow it, it didn't freak him out.
It didn't like he was just like,oh, mom's talking to me about
life. And and you're right, they don't
like it's all in our heads that fear that we have that they're
going to to respond a certain way.
But I really want you to talk about how, the how and the why
behind this isn't just a father son conversation.
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Well, first of all, it's not just a conversation for the men
because pornography is not simply a male issue.
It impacts men, it impacts women, it impacts children.
It is a human issue. So therefore, all of us need to
address it, right? And, and it's not just men who
are using pornography, Women usepornography too.
That means we need to prepare our girls to reject pornography
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just like we would prepare our boys.
There's the the number of young women using pornography is
growing at an incredibly rapid rate because they are growing up
in a highly sexualized culture that is pushing porn at them and
telling them it's normal. And this is what everybody does.
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Also, there are a lot of kids who are turning to pornography
for their sex education, like, and, and that feels like what?
How very kidding. And it's not just kids who are,
you know, going to traditional school.
It could be a homeschooled kid. Maybe not when they're 12, maybe
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not till they're 20. But they're like, I don't really
know anything about this. I hear other people talking
about it. I don't know what's expected of
me. I I don't understand this world.
I guess this is what I do and I Google it and here I go.
Wow. So I want to pause on that for a
minute because that just made methink of a story you shared in
the book. But also what you're saying is
so we aren't just talking to ourkids about porn, but we also
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need to be talking to our kids about how healthy God created
sex so that when they get in that position, like you said,
they're not like, I'm not reallysure what to do here.
So and then they go down this horrific where what the enemy
wants to steal, right? And so so share a little bit
about that because you shared that in the book.
But I think that is so importantis that we don't just cut, we
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don't just go from nothing to the porn talk.
There is there's a positive side, right?
Like God created and designed marriage to be good.
So. So camp out on that a little
bit. I have a whole chapter about
what it looks like to create a healthy sexual culture in your
home. And that is actually an antidote
to porn. Because when you begin from the
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time your kids are little to give them an understanding that
their body is made in God's image, that their body is
designed with a purpose. Every part is designed with a
purpose. Yes, even the sexual parts and
that they're not bad. They are designed with a purpose
though. And you don't have to get into
the purpose when they're two, obviously, but they begin to
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understand like, Oh yeah, your, your body is made by God and
your body is good. And when we begin with that idea
in mind, that begins to create that healthy sexual culture in
our home where there isn't this,like, we don't talk about it.
We don't say anything about sex or porn or anything like that
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because we just don't know how. And it begins to create this
kind of atmosphere of shame and fear.
Instead, we are like, yeah, God made your body's good.
And then when they're old enough, you begin to have the
conversations about where babiescome from and what sex is.
And God made sex good. And we're not afraid of it.
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We're not ashamed or embarrassed.
It has a purpose and a place. And they know that too.
But when we do that, we are are saying eventually porn is a
twisting of God's good design and therefore we want to reject
it because it's not his best forus.
It's actually what Satan is using to try to trick us and
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give us a counterfeit. And those conversations span the
whole life of your child. Obviously you're not having
those conversations with your 5 year old, but you're laying the
groundwork so that when your kids, 15 or 25, you can have
those conversations and prepare them for God's good gift.
Wow, I love that. And and that's always we always
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point back. I mean, that's that's the thing.
That's the purpose of this podcast.
That's the purpose of our lives.That's the purpose of what
you're doing is pointing back toGod really does have a plan and
a purpose and something good, right?
And so that's awesome. OK, we kind of detoured.
So take us back a little bit to the the this isn't just a dad
son conversation. So so go back to that for me,
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would you? So yeah, it's not just a dad son
conversation because like I said, it's impacting men, women,
children. It impacts everybody.
Porn is a human issue. We all have to deal with it.
And when we are able to as a moms have those conversations
with our sons and our daughters,we are showing them that women
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are worthy of respect and honor.That is not happening in
pornography. In pornography, women are abused
and treated as objects and they're discarded and cast
aside. That is not how God created
women to be treated. So as a as a mom, as a woman,
when you stand up and you say pornography is is evil and it is
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wrong, you are letting your sonsand daughters know that it is
not OK for for a woman to be treated like this.
It is not OK for a man to ever treat a woman in this way.
That's an important thing our kids need to hear, not just from
the dads, but from the moms too.We need our daughters to
understand you should never be treated in this way.
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You stand up for yourself and say this is not OK.
Our sons need to know this is not the way a woman deserves to
be treated and they need to hearthat from us too.
The other thing that is really hard to talk about in this
context, but it's so important is there are dads, Adam would
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say statistically, there are more dads than moms struggling
with using porn. And that causes dads sometimes
not to want to talk about it because they're dealing with
this issue in their very own lives.
They're dealing with the shame and the struggle.
And so they're like, how could Itell my kids not to use porn if
it is an issue in my own life? And statistically speaking, for
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many men, it is for women too. But like I said, statistically,
it's more men at this point thanwomen.
And so if your husband is unwilling or unable to have the
conversation with your kids, then as a mom, you need to step
into that place. And again, that is a really hard
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thing to face, but it's an important reality that's
happening in a lot of families. And so we need to, because the
health and safety of our kids are at stake.
And so we need to do something about that.
Right, well, and it's like anything else.
I don't not talk to my kids about something 'cause I'm
struggling with it, right? Like I might struggle with, I
mean, I might struggle with envyand I'm not going to never talk
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to my kids about envy, right? Or I might struggle with all
sorts of things. And I think there's even,
there's even something about that that we can say, Hey, you
know what? This is a struggle we all have,
but God is bigger and, and I'm still going to, I'm still going
to warn you of the threats, right?
And so, so that's really good. I really like that.
So before we go to a break, I want, I have a, a question that
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I'm, I'm hoping you can help me wrap my head around, but how do
I educate myself? Because in your book it talks
about like, we need to give themterms or things that are out
there. How do I educate myself when
this it isn't something that I necessarily struggle with or I
don't even like like I had a friend call the other day and
she's like, Oh my gosh, did you hear about this, this thing that
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kids are now doing on TikTok or whatever in these terms?
And I'm like, how can I warn my kids about something I is so
foreign? I don't even know.
Like I guess I'm kind of ignorant, but I also don't want
to like start Googling stuff to educate myself because that's
terrifying too. So how do we How do we stay
educated to educate our kids? So in in my book, I put at the
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end of the book a whole section of like important terms that I
think parents need to be aware of.
And then a lot of them are actually things we need to talk
to our kids about before they, you know, enter adulthood
because there are things that kids are going to face.
And I did that because I, I didn't want them, you know, in a
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crisis moment or even in a non crisis moment where they're
like, oh, I need to know about this thing, but I don't want to
Google it, right? Where do I go?
And so I talk about things like how do you address like maps,
minor attracted persons. That's the term that is used
now. How do you deal?
With that, that term didn't exist, you know, when I was
going through this. So those are things.
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So are you going to update A blog post like every couple
months as you think because the world is changing?
The world changes stuff. Yeah, I I actually haven't even
thought that far ahead. But again, you are just knocking
it out of the park. So yeah.
That means, you know that every few months I'm going to be like,
OK. Grab me a scoop.
There are other, there are otherorganizations and groups who do
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that. They're like, okay, these are
the 10 things middle schoolers are saying right now that they
see all over to talk. And so you could find, you know,
like I know one that that does that is an organization called
Bark and they have a website that keeps kids safer online if
they're on social media. Like it notifies like these are
like we noticed like bullying language in your kids messages
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and it notifies the parent. And I know Bark, for example,
they will do an Instagram post will though where they will say
like, these are the things middle schoolers are saying
right now. Do you know what they mean?
So even following like 1 you know, one Instagram account and
keeping track of it that way would be a good way to educate
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yourself. OK, that's awesome.
I love that. These are such good practical
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We are back and this is our lastsegment to cover this most
important topic. So I have, I have one more
question that it has been rumbling around in my mind as
I'm processing all this and I'm sure others have it, but and
then we'll really dive into somefun stuff.
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But how, how can I warn my kids and talk to my kids about this
stuff without triggering them to, to want something or to have
that curiosity that, you know, it almost feels like dangerous
to be like, did you know that there's this thing on the
Internet that lures us in like, where is that balance?
How do you do that? Explain that a little bit.
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Well, I think that like if we use language like you just used,
there's this thing on the Internet that lures us in that
sounds intriguing. So don't use that language.
And I think when we keep it verystraightforward and very simple,
like in the example I gave in our episode last week where we
talked about like, there's this thing called pornography.
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You don't tell your kids the details of like, oh, this is
where you find it. This is what it looks like.
Like you give them, I always saythe least amount of information.
And that I think helps limit thecuriosity.
But we all know, we all have at least one kid who's the more
curious one, the one who asked more questions, the one that's,
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you know, the deep thinker. That's not just like, I just
want to go play with my matchboxscars and I'll talk about deep
stuff. We, that kid might be the one
who is curious. And I think it's important,
therefore, for a parent to address that, especially with
your kid who, you know, is the curious one.
And you can say to them if you have questions and you are, you
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know, curious about what I'm talking about and you want to
know more, you can ask me. I will answer your questions.
I will be here to help you. I will talk to you and share
with you as much as I can to keep you safe because you want
to acknowledge that they might be curious but you want to
direct them back to you. There is no.
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Guaranteeing them any reason to go look for it, right?
We're removing any reason that they would have to go look for
and. We're going to say it's not
safe, it's not good for you withthe hope that that is a
deterrent, But there is no guarantee you won't have.
There won't be a kid who's like,well, I want to know what that
is. But I I would say again and
again, and so many other people who are in this field with me
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would say the potential danger of saying nothing is greater
than the potential danger of them looking because we have
equipped them. And that's hard to sit with
because we don't want to endanger our kids.
But if you think about it in terms of, like you said, this
poisonous Berry when you're out hiking, like, well, we don't
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want to make them afraid to touch any Berry until we get any
Berry. But but we need to tell them for
sure that there is a Berry that could kill them if they eat it.
Like that is more important thanthe potential danger of them
being scared of them being like,well, I wonder if this is a
Berry I could try. Like they could do that.
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You have that curious kid, But it's more important to keep them
safe from the ultimate danger. Right, I agree.
And I also think it it just sharing with them that, you
know, eating the poisonous Berryis going to eliminate any chance
of eating the good Berry. Like pornography is going to
ruin a really great sex life andmarriage someday, right?
And eating the poisonous Berry, well, you'll be dead.
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So you don't get to eat the delicious Berry that's five feet
down the trail, right? Like.
Yeah. And those are conversations you
have with your team. Like that is a real, like,
honest conversation that you need to have with an older teen.
Like, this isn't just about keeping you safe from bad
images. By the time your kids, an older
teen be like yeah, this will have an impact on healthy,
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beautiful sex life with your spouse in the future.
It can impact you for your wholelife.
Right, right. And I think you said something
else that I want parents to know.
This isn't a guarantee. Greta's book isn't a formula.
Just like we know that homeschooling does not guarantee
your kids are going to get saved.
Talking to your kids about pornography isn't going.
It's going to definitely reduce the chances.
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It's going to give them a fighting chance to stay away
from it. But at the end of the day, we as
parents know that it really, it's going to be prayer and it's
going to be the Holy Spirit. And I want to say that our
greatest line of defense, even before preparing is praying.
And it but it can't end there. We have to pray for our kids.
We have to seek the Lord. We have to ask for conviction in
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their own hearts. And then we have to prepare
them. And then at the end of the day,
we do this out of obedience to God, not because we're
guaranteed an outcome, right? And so we obey God by by giving
our kids what they need to navigate this, this crazy and
insane world. So, OK, so Greta, before we kind
of deviate a little from that, is there any other like just
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something on your heart from this book that you just feel
like you have to share? Well, I, I love what you said
about prayer and I think that that brings us back to a place
of hope. I think it's very tempting to
parent out of fear in this situation, but I want to remind
parents that we actually don't have to parent from a place of
fear. We can parent from a place of
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hope because we serve a God who is bigger than pornography.
One of my favorite quotes, an additional one in the when I
shared last week was is from Corey Tenboom and actually from
her sister Betsy when they were in a Nazi concentration camp.
And Betsy said there's no pit sodeep that God's love is not
deeper still. And I think about that in terms
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of pornography for so many of uswere like, oh, I'm paralyzed by
this deep, dark pit. And I think there's no way to
climb out of it. If my kid is exposed, it's the
end of the story. If I'm dealing with it in my
marriage, it's the end of the story.
And it's not. There is no pit so deep that got
God's love is not deeper still. He is bigger than than even the
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pit of pornography. And He can help protect your
kids and He can help if they're exposed, if they're struggling.
He is bigger than that. And that can give us hope in a
seemingly really dark place. God is bigger.
Right, Well, I mean, just look at your story, right, with the
enemy meant for evil, and I meanjust the incredible, the
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incredible gift that you are andand families wouldn't be reached
if that wouldn't have happened. God totally redeemed it.
So can you share a Bible verse that got you through your
hardest times? Yeah, I love the verse from
Romans 12/21 that says do not beovercome by evil, but overcome
evil with good because it gave me two places to step into God's
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like healing power to not be overcome by the evil that had
happened in my own marriage in in our life.
And to not just be laid flat andsay I'm without hope and without
healing, but then to overcome evil with good.
It gave me like an action step like, oh, we can work on healing
our marriage. We can work on healing our
family and now we can work on helping other families find
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healing. So that's one of my most
favorite verses. I.
Love that verse. And do you have a specific verse
that you would leave with parents as we are feeling?
This I think every kid needs to learn Psalm 13914 and to
memorize it. I praise you because I am
fearfully and wonderfully made. Your works are wonderful.
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I know that full well. I believe every kid needs to
know that they are made in God'simage and so are other humans.
Because when they know that truth and they hold on to it,
then they know they need to treat others with the respect
and honor they deserve. Because they are human beings
made in God's image. I love that.
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I love that. Thank you.
Thank you. OK, so I'm going to show
everybody right now. Here it comes.
If you're on YouTube, you get tosee how cute this important book
is OK, let me find so this is it.
It's time to talk to your kids about porn.
And you can find this book anywhere that you can find
books. And I, I, I want to tell you,
this is not a suggestion. This book is a must have there.
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There is really no other book like this.
There's no other book that's written with a mom heart.
But also with the research and the wisdom and the experience
and the, I mean, just the tips and tricks.
It was so readable. It just, it made sense.
I didn't read this very lofty idea and then have to try to
figure it out on my own. I mean, you gave the heart, the
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idea, the big picture, and then you gave step by step action
plans. I mean, you even gave like if
parents are really nervous, you gave like, OK, follow this, read
this right here is here is the problem to actually, yes,
scripts. I mean, there's scripts in here.
It is such an important book andand I would say buy it now.
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If you are pregnant by this book, put this book, read it.
Read it in each season that yourkids are in because Greta has
broken it down. Like, how do you talk to the
little kids? How do you talk to the older?
It's not a one and done book. It is a resource for guiding,
for equipping, for protecting our children.
So get this book. And now before we close out, I
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just want to ask you, Greta, because you are, you're just
such a fun friend. I want to ask you all the fun
things. Plus on a heavy topic like this,
we wanna, we wanna like end verylight hearted.
But I think you already did thatwith the message of hope.
And I, I, I pray that that is what parents leave and, and when
they, when they turn off their phones from listening to this,
that they feel hopeful, not afraid, not defeated, but almost
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excited and hopeful that whetheryou're just starting your
parenting journey, you have the hope that that you get to do
this. Whether you're done and you feel
like you made mistakes, you havethe hope that God can redeem all
things. So, OK, but before we leave, I'm
going to just like fire off somefun questions.
What is your favorite book? My favorite book is by Corey 10
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Boom and it's the hiding place that's.
My favorite that's the best who's also the producer must
it's it's the best book. It really is.
I love it. They were like, you're twins.
You're twins, even. So many ways that is the OK.
So I have to ask you, did you read the second one that was
called? It's the second book and I've
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read. So many of her books, but I I
don't remember. So there's one that's all about,
I can't remember the name, but it's what happened after once
she was released, like her wholemission and going to the States
and all that. Tramp for the Lord.
Yes, Tramp for the Lord. Yeah.
It wasn't anywhere near as good as a hiding place.
Not not. There's no book that is good is.
Good. She is buried Corey Tenboom is
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buried like 20 minutes from our house and a few years ago we
found that out and my my youngest son who loves Corey so
much he wants to name one of hisdaughters Corey.
One day we took a bouquet of tulips and we laid it on her
grave and we just said a prayer like to thank God for her life,
like it was so powerful I. Didn't realize she was buried in
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California. Yeah, I thought she would be
buried in Holland. I was like.
So surprised for sure me. Too end of her life she spent in
Southern California and that's where she was buried.
So I have a deep, abiding love for Corey and she's so
important. OK, so then the third book
Yvette is always telling me to read and it's called The Five
Silent Years. Yeah, I've had that is about the
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end of her life. Yeah, okay.
I have not read it because I think it could probably.
I'm just assuming it's a boring book because how do you have 5
silent years and write a whole book?
But everybody says it's amazing so I need to just get it and
read it. Read.
Almost everything she's written because she's just silent for
someone. She's amazing.
Okay, well that was a good answer.
You passed and I, I was going toask you what your favorite quote
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is, but I feel like it's probably already one of the ones
that you've shared. Is that right?
I was actually going to share either the Corey 10 boom or the
Elizabeth Elliott quote from thelast.
Episode. So yeah, OK, we'll say them
again so that people can get outyour pen and paper ready.
Tell us. Elizabeth Elliott's was of one
thing. I am sure God's story never ends
in ashes. It's so hopeful and so powerful.
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And then the quote isn't actually Corey's, it's Betsy's,
Her sister. But it's close enough.
And Betsy said there is no pit so deep that God's love is not
deeper. So.
I love those. I love those and honestly, Betsy
was just I mean she was incredible.
Yes, OK, we already did favoriteBible verse.
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Do you have a favorite worship song?
Just one that you right. Now, right now, I've probably
listened to it 20 times in the last like week is Thank you
Jesus for the Blood by Charity Gale.
And it is just so beautiful. My kids are like, how many times
are you going to listen? To my kids do that all the time,
over and over and over and they're like mom.
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There's other songs, but when you find one song you play and
you have to play it loud too, like that is a prerequisite Over
and over and over. So that's if my current
favorite. I have many though, so we could
spend a whole podcast on that. A whole podcast on good songs.
OK, Share with us your funniest moment in parenting this.
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One really embarrassing. This was years ago and I was
doing science with the kids and we were reading about scorpions.
I think it was scorpions, yeah. And I like, apparently could not
do the math in my head, 'cause I'm telling the kids I'm like
this, Oh my gosh, you guys, thisscorpion is almost 5 feet tall.
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That's what I said. And they're like, they looked at
me and they're like, what? And then I I'm a picture.
Again, but tall scorpion in my mind right now.
Mom, that is not are you crazy? What is what are the numbers in
the book? And then I said it was like, I
don't know, 58 inches or something.
And they're like, that's no, you're that's in a movie maybe,
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but that's not real. And then they like looked at
what it said and it said like, Idon't know, 10 inches or
something. And I had just done it wrong in
my head. Checked you ever?
Said checked me so hard and I will never live it down.
They're like oh remember when mom said that there was a 5 foot
Scorpius? That is so funny.
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That is hilarious. I have done those things.
And then you're like, shoot, nowyou're never going to believe
me, but I want to tell you that 99.9% of the things I tell you
are accurate. They're just maybe there's a 5
foot scorpion somewhere. Yeah, I've I've looked multiple
times to. Try to prove myself.
Right now, maybe only in like ifit's.
Nightmares. In.
Nightmares. Oh, my goodness.
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OK, Well, Greta, we this has been such a fun episode with you
and so encouraging and so hopeful and so necessary.
And I just want you to carry us out and just tell us if one mom
if if a mom and a dad could takeone thing, 'cause there was a
lot of information here. We'll have to re listen to this
a bunch. If there was just one take away
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from this episode, what would itbe?
The take away is really the title of my book is It's Time to
Talk to Your Kids About Porn. You need to have that first
conversation and step into it courageously and know that God
will give you what you need to talk to your kids because He
prepared you for this job and have that first conversation and
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then you'll find the next one will be easier and then the next
one after that. It's time and we are raising our
kids in this moment, not accidentally.
God put us here. We need to equip our kids for
the time that they're growing upin.
It's time for kids about porn. It's time, it's time, Amen.
And we're in it together, right?We're in it together.
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And if every parent would have the conversation, then more and
more kids are going to get the message right.
And that is so important. So again, I'm putting it right
here. We're going to link it in the
show notes. It's time to talk to your kids
about porn. Greta Eskridge.
Where can people find you find? Me on Instagram you can find me
at my website gretaeskrich.com, my podcast, the Greta Eskrich
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Show, and find me wherever booksare sold.
You'll find my book everywhere and.
Really where where you'll find Greta is out adventuring and
having a blast and having fun and building relationships with
her children. That's where you'll usually find
her. We can't thank you enough,
Greta. You guys can always find me
anywhere. Just type in Abby Rinella and I
will probably be there. Usually I'm scrubbing toilets
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and loading dishwashers and thatsort of thing, so you'll also
find me there. Greta, we love you.
Thank you for being so bold, so courageous, for doing the hard
thing on behalf of all moms and dads, for equipping us to equip
our kids, and for allowing the Lord to use your story for His
glory. We cannot thank you enough.
We love you. Thanks so much for joining us
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we're the Co host of the CultureProof podcast.
We want to invite you to join usevery week as we discuss what's
happening in the world and then filter those happenings through
a decidedly biblical lens. There are many questions,
especially when we see what's happening in our culture today,
but the answers are found withinthe Word of God, so that's where
we want to look. Amen.
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When we resist those cultural trends that rival the truth.
We remain culture proof. I realized how insidious, how
malicious, how anti biblical this ideology really is and how
deeply rooted it is in our culture in different ways people
are not aware of. What we're seeing now for the
last few years has been the fruit of this neo Marxist
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ideology, but it's been around for a very long time.
The root is very deep. Some very prominent Christian
voices were conceding or compromising God's word to go
along with the cultural narrative, really rooted in a
false empathy quite often. And so they'll take that and
kind of pull on the heartstringsto say you should think this way
or you should say this if you have any empathy at all, any
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true love at all. And they'll be rearranging,
redefining truth and justice to do that.
And whereas of course I want to have empathy and love, no doubt,
but empathy and love are rooted in God's truth.
You can't separate those things from God's truth.
And so we have empathy and love from a biblical worldview rooted
in who God is, his nature and his word.
We can't separate those two things.
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