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Our girls are looking for truth. They're looking for that
fence around the backyard to say this is right and this is
wrong. And in our efforts for
DEI and for inclusion and whatever banner you want to
wave on this, girls still want to know truth. And that is what
is so beautiful about the word of God.
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We need to get back into the word. That is what is going to give
our girls satisfaction, joy and
understanding of what their purpose is in life.
Hey everyone, this is Yvette Hampton. Welcome back to the Schoolhouse
Rocked Podcast. I am so glad you are with me this week
because I have a great guest on. She has been on my bucket list
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for a few years now and I would say many, many
years since we started the podcast. Probably because she
is the founder and director, executive director of
American Heritage Girls. Her name is Patti Garibay. And many of you might be familiar
with her, especially if you have girls who are part of American Heritage
Girls, or AHG as the cool kids call it.
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She is here with us this week and we're going to talk about girls. We're
going to. And you guys know, you know, I have two daughters. I don't have
any boys in my life. I don't have brothers, I don't have nephews, I don't
have sons. I like have a world of girls. I have nieces, a sister and
two daughters. And so my whole life has been about frills and
bows and pink and girly things like truly, genuinely, I,
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I live in a world of girl and so I love
it. And I am so excited to have Patti with me
this week. We'll be here this week and next week talking about this. And so
if you are a mama of girls, stick with us. You're going to be so
encouraged. And if you're a mom of boys, I know lots of moms
who have only boys. And, and eventually you're going to have daughters in law who
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are going to enter into your world and you're going to need to know how
to handle girls. I mean, you're a girl yourself, but you know, there's just something
different about having that younger girl, that younger woman in your life.
And so we're excited to have Patti with us. Before we get into our conversation
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Ctcmath.com I also want to let you know about one more
really exciting thing. You know, we get invitations to speak at
different conventions and conferences and things like that. And this year,
I. I did not feel like the Lord was giving me peace about speaking
anywhere. And the Teach Them Diligently convention was coming
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up in Branson, Missouri. Um, it's coming up in May, and I. Garrett and
I talked about. I said, you know, I don't want to speak anywhere this year.
I just. It's not that I don't want to. I just don't feel like the
Lord's given me peace about it, but I want to go. I want to attend
a conference just as attendees.
So we are going to Branson, Missouri. We're going to be there. It's May 15th
through the 17th at the Branson Convention center, and they have an
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incredible lineup of guests. Heidi St. John, Ken Ham, Ginger
Hubbard, and many, many others. And so we are going to be there that weekend.
We were actually going to do like, a meetup because
we love meeting you guys at conventions. But
instead of doing a meetup, what we decided is we were going to hang out
at Ginger Hubbard's booth. So we're going to be there for most of.
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At her booth, probably for most of the weekend. We'll be at the conference all
weekend, but we would love to meet you guys. So if you are anywhere
within driving distance of Branson, Missouri, we would love it if you would
join us at the Teach them diligently convention May 15th through the 17th
at the Branson Convention Center. And you can use our code. We have a
$25 off code. Use SR for Schoolhouse
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Rock. It's that simple. Just SR SR. Go to teach them
diligently.net, you can register there. And they've got other conferences, too. They've got Dayton, Ohio,
Pigeon Forge, Liberty University. But we will be at the
Wine and Branson. So we would love to meet you there. Anyway, without further ado,
I would love to introduce our guest to you, Patti Garabe. Like I said, she
is the founder and executive director of American Heritage Girls, and I
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am super excited to have her with us. Patti, for those who are
not familiar with you, introduce yourself and your Ministry and what
it is that you do. Absolutely. I am Patti
Garibay. I am the wife of Pat Garibay. So
Pat and Patti from Cincinnati. That's how you can remember. Love
it. We've been married for 45 years. We have four kiddos and
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11 grandchildren. And we have
just loved and followed the Lord for
golly, I guess it's been at least four years.
And really felt a calling on our lives at one
point to start American Heritage Girls. And that was all the way back in
1995. Yvette, we're celebrating 30 years of
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God's faithfulness through this, through this wonderful
ministry that he's called us to. And it all started back when I was
a volunteer for the Girl Scouts usa.
Little did I know that being a Girl Scout leader and serving my
three daughters as I did, leading them in their three different troops,
that someday I would be doing something similar, but yet so
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very different. Yeah, this is a Christian centric
ministry for girls that use scout type methods to
help girls learn and be brought up in the way they should go.
I love that. You know, as I was looking
through American Heritage Girls in the very beginning, I guess my girls
started American Heritage Girls. I want to say it was probably
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five, six years ago. We were in Georgia
and we were in need of friends. Really. We were there. We had
a few family members, but we didn't really have any friends. We didn't have a
community because we had just moved there. And so I said I had heard of
American Heritage Girls and we had some friends, other homeschool friends who were
part of hg and so I said, let's try this. And so we
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jumped in. That was where we found our community in Georgia was
through American Heritage Girls. And it was such a blessing to us. And
as I was looking into ahg, I
of course looked into Girl Scouts because I was just looking for something and I
knew there was something about Girl Scouts that didn't feel right to
me, but I wasn't exactly sure what the right
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thing was to do. And so I went on the Girl Scouts website and I
actually went back on it yesterday as I was preparing for this interview. And I
once again was reminded why we did not choose Girl Scouts. And I'm not here
to bash on Girl Scouts. We're going to talk about HD and lots of other
things, but really quickly, I want to contrast the two
because you talk about how, you know, American Heritage Girls
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really is. You're there to, to build
up Christian leaders. I mean, that's really your purpose is to Build up these.
These young girls into women who will love and serve Jesus and the Girl
Scout promise. I found it to be very interesting. It's very short, but this is
their promise that's on their website, and it says, the Girl Scout promises, on my
honor, I will try to serve God and my country, to
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help people at all times and to live by the Girl Scout law. And when
I first read that, I thought, well, that's. That's great. I mean, that's really kind
of what we all want to do, right? To serve God in my country, to
help people at all times, and to live by the Girl Scout law. But then
I noticed where it says God, there was a little asterisk there. And right
underneath where it says that, it said, members may substitute for the word God
in accordance with their own spiritual beliefs. And I
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was like, oh, man, you missed it.
They just missed it. They missed the one most important
word. And their promise is to serve whatever God
you want, whatever God you think you are, you want to be or that
you believe in. American Heritage Girls is the
complete opposite of that. And so, very quickly,
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I want to talk about why you got started with
American Heritage Girls. Why. Why did you jump into this, you know,
planning and forming this organization.
Um, I'm assuming it was with some other moms and, you know,
a group of you mamas who came together and said, we don't like the direction
that Girl Scouts is going. Maybe we can do something
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different. So tell us that story. You nailed it, girl. You
already know the story. We were started for that very
reason. That asterisk. Oh, wow. That is what made us
start. That happened in the year 1993. Okay. When the
Girl Scouts actually voted after all the years. They were started in
1912. So over 80 years of keeping God in their
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promise. Yeah. A new board came into existence for the
Girl Scouts usa. In addition to that, an agenda, a radical
agenda that we are now seeing the fruition of that and what they're
promoting. And I was concerned about that. As a Christian mom, I
used Girl Scouting as a form of ministry. I was able to reach
unreached girls through it, and I was keeping God in the
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promise. Now, I heard about this change in the Girl
Scout promise, like almost anyone would have, which was during the evening
news. It was a big deal back then that they were going to change this.
And it was at a Minneapolis national convention of delegates. But here's the
clincher. I was an evolved, involved Girl Scout
leader. I was actually a troop organizer. I started new troops in My area
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of north of Cincinnati. I also was a delegate. You would have
thought maybe I would have known this about this concern before the
evening news. But you know what I did, Yvette? I honestly did what
a lot of us do. And that is, I thought, well, for
me and my house, we will serve the Lord. Therefore, my troop will continue to
say God in our Girl Scout promise. Now, my
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husband said, that's not going to cut it. You're not going to represent
them. And I'll tell you what. I bled green. If I had, people in my
community would see me and they knew I was a Girl Scout lady. Wow. Okay.
Because I was so involved. Yeah. So he sort of had this. This
idea of, Patti, there's got to be something. You can't do this. You
either quit or you start something new.
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Now, I felt a calling from the Lord at the same time that this
was happening. And I realized he led me to
the book of Habakkuk, which said, write it down. Do not flee from it, or
write it down and tell the Lord what your needs are. And so I
did. I wrote down all my concerns. I actually shared it with the Girl Scout
Council because I believe that we need to try to shine
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light on darkness before we flee from it.
Well, there was no going back. There was no entertaining any
of our ideas about. This is a bad idea. Guys, you should not.
You don't even know who your stakeholders are. Gsusa, you're going to kick out all
the people that are conservative, that believe in God by doing this. And
that's exactly what happened. But for me, in my house, I thought
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this was going to be a little club for my daughter to get her through
some formative years. By this time, it was my third daughter going through. I'm a
third daughter. All we get is hand me downs and leftovers. When you're a third
daughter. So I had to do this for her. Well, I'll tell you, Yvette,
God, in his glory and his goodness and his faithfulness, that
daughter. Daughter is now an American Heritage Girl. So God had a
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much bigger plan than my little mom mind. And I'll tell you, it wasn't just
me. You're right. It was a bunch of moms around my kitchen
table. And the power of moms. And dad, my dad,
my husband, he was so integral to this is amazing.
When it is fueled by the Holy Spirit. Yeah. And that's the
difference. That's the entire difference. Wow. Wow. That's
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amazing. You know, it's heartbreaking to see where much of
our country has gone, but it's little things like this. It's just sent
infiltrating into organizations like American Heritage or like,
like Girl Scouts. And oftentimes
Christians come alongside and say, no, no, we're not going to do this. We're going
to find a better way that is biblical, that stands on truth,
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and we're going to go that direction instead. And, you know, it's heartbreaking. I
actually, I remember years ago we were living in Savannah,
Georgia, and while we were there, they had this. It was like
they do a free museum day once a year. I think it's once a year
where you can go to any museum for free. And so we were walking around
and people downtown were walking through all these museums. It was really cool.
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And in front of one of the museums was a Girl Scouts table.
And I believe it was the month of June. And on the table
were rainbow flags all over the Girl Scout table. And it just
broke my heart because I just wanted to say to these girls, there's a better
organization, it's called American Heritage Girls, where you can learn about Jesus
and you can learn about all these other things that, that, you know, you're, you're
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learning, but from, again, a biblical worldview. I
want to go back really quickly to you started this organization 30
years ago, which. Happy anniversary. This is actually mine and my husband's
30th anniversary, marriage anniversary. So we got married
in 1995. And so it's exciting to have those, you know, that,
that absolute 30 year mark. That's really incredible. But
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as you've looked back and you said this was your younger daughter and you had
two older daughters, what differences have you seen in girls?
Because obviously you have experienced girls for a
really long time. What are some of the differences that
you've seen in the makeup and the raising
and just the girls in
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Society from 30 years ago
to today? Mm. You know, there's been, there's some
similarities and there's a whole lot of differences. And so let's talk about the
similarities really quickly. I mean, I've always seen girls having problems with
their body image and their identity and
the body image. You know, back in the early 90s when I was serving in
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Girl Scouts and AHG afterwards, I realized that
there's, there's a really strong incentive to want to just
look trim and to have that perfect body and, you know, that whole body image
issue. And so bulimia and anorexia were a big issue
back in those days. Today, gender,
even understanding, if I'm a girl if I'm female.
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Right. You know, this whole identity issue around
whether or not what does a. Who is a woman, Even
that crazy question. And I was happy to see, you know, just a few days
ago, that we are going to go back to two genders. Amen, President Trump. Praise
the Lord. That's right. I mean, who. How do we even get there? But
now it is a real question. One in three
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girls believe that it is okay to be
lgbtq. They believe this to be fine
and within whatever the norm is. So our girls
are looking for truth. They're looking for that fence
around the backyard to say this is right and this is wrong.
And in our efforts for DEI and for
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inclusion and whatever banner you want to wave on this,
girls still want to know truth. And that is what is so beautiful
about the Word of God. That's right. There is
un. I mean, unwavering truth. It
defies any culture or time and space. It
is truth now, then and forever.
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And that's what the girls want. They want. And you know, today we are
so illiterate with scripture in the Bible, and so many parents
don't even know scripture to even share it with their children. The
illiteracy rate is so dramatic that Barna has
said 96% of all professing born again
Christians don't even have a biblical worldview. And when you go
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tosummit ministry, summit.org and you take that test, you might be
surprised at your own score on that test,
because there are some things we're missing. The mark, even us,
those that are following Christ and wanting to follow him so closely that
the dust from the rabbi's robe is on us. And that's the way I look
at my following, my journey with Christ, that we
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need to get back into the Word. That is what is going to give our
girls satisfaction, joy, and
understanding of what their purpose is in life.
So we go from body image to, again
in Latin, imago deo. I mean, talking about God's image and
who we are in God. And that is what we teach
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in American Heritage Girls. And it is so refreshing. Our parents
are so thrilled to see that. And Yvette, we've even done some ebooks
on gender and identity so that you can have a discussion with your
kiddos about this. Because you want to be as your
primary discipler, which is who you are as a parent. That's right. You want to
be the first one to have these discussions. Not the culture, not the media, not
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the kid next door. You want to be that person. Yes. Yeah, that's right.
We have such a great responsibility as parents to be that. And so
what a privilege we have, but a huge responsibility. So we've
got lots more to talk about. We're going to take a break. We'll be right
back.
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We are back with Patti. Patti, I. I want to talk
about the American Heritage Girls mission. Not
in the sense of talking about just HG like, you know,
if. If we want to do this, our girls have to be part of
ahg, but in general, their mission is
to build women of integrity through service to God, family, community,
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and country. And I want to kind of pick that apart and talk
about what that means and how, you know, we really are building women. Right? Our
girls are little when they start out, but they don't stay little. You
know, we. They grow so quickly. And any mama like yourself
who has girls, children who are out of the home, you know how quickly it
passes. And so as we're raising our kids, we have to keep in mind
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that we're not raising children. We're raising adults. We are raising adult women.
And so we really are trying to raise them to be women of integrity
through service to God, family, community, and country. What does that
mean? What does that mean? Well, first of all,
service is such an important part, and it's something
I believe that homeschool families are yearning for a really
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practical way to engage in service to the community,
because what that does is it helps your daughters understand
the potential vocation that the Lord may be calling them to.
And so what I've seen through service is there's a passion that
sometimes is ignited in a girl's heart and soul that lets her know
that she can be part of the solution rather than part of the
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problem. And that's really empowering. And when you bring
the Holy Spirit and allow them to understand that the Holy Spirit's power
is endless. And again, this isn't about girl power. It's about the Holy
Spirit's power in the girl. Amen. That makes all the difference,
right? And so serving others is what
gets a girl outside of herself. And let's face it, we all
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know from child development that we are born to be very
egocentric, to be me, me, me, me. And to push a girl
outside her comfort zone and to think about others is a beautiful
metamorphosis, and it becomes the hands and feet of Christ. It's
our true calling in this world, is to serve others. The Lord
said, love God and love others. Those are the primary tenets. And that is
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what American Heritage girls is doing. And so when you have this band of
sisters coming together and serving, whether it be the
homeless or a diaper drive for the pregnancy care center, or it could be
something that's as concrete as a Stars and Stripes project, which is our
highest award, that actually shows a manifestation of a
difference that has been made within perhaps a
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toddler room at the church that is hosting American Heritage
Girls. Those are all ways that girls are extending outside of
themselves. And, you know, they really want that. Just like they want that backyard with
right and wrong. They want to feel like they have impact and influence and that
they're seen Right. And I think we as adults want that as well. And we
get to serve alongside those kiddos. Yeah. Yeah. I tell my girls all the time,
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and I say it on the podcast all the time, that we were all created
on purpose, for a purpose. We are not here to just exist.
You know, we're not here to be consumers. We're here to serve the
kingdom of God and to do something amazing for him
and with him through us. I love that you said, you
know, it's not about girl power, because that really is kind of what the Girl
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Scouts is about. You know, girl power. Let's be strong. And that's where the whole
feminist movement came in. I mean, what a mess that has been for our society.
Right? It's not about girl power. It is about God working in
us and through us. And as you talked about before, I think it was before
the break, we have to know the word of God. And when we know the
word of God, we will know how to serve him. And, you know, it's so
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important. Let's talk about family for a minute, because I know that American Heritage
Girls is huge on family. This is not just a dump your girls off
there, let them go on their way, and they're going to learn from somebody else
how to be godly women. Where does the family
fit into all of this? The family really is the
cornerstone of American Heritage Girls as it is for society.
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Yes. And the destruction of family is really
what the devil himself wants to happen. So we want to build
up families, and I think it's really important that we are intentional about this event.
It's so easy in the busyness of this world to
not give the family the appropriate time, the appropriate
effort to real formation. We can't just
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let family happen. It's got to be intentional. And this is one
way that families across the nation are finding intentionality
where the moms might be serving or working with the girls and
the dads as well. I mean, a father's role in a girl's life
I cannot speak to enough. It is so important
and for dad to be involved in American Heritage of Girls as well.
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And, you know, when we come alongside with our Trail Life
brothers, and we've got a family ministry of
both the girls and the boys, the husband and the wife being able to serve
together, that is cool. That is a night out
well spent and well invested. Yeah. So good. So
we had Mark Hancock on quite some time ago. I'll actually link to his
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episode in the show notes. And Mark Hancock is the director of
Trail Life usa, which is the boy version of
American Heritage Girls. They're the Christian version of the Boy
Scouts. Incredible organization. And, you know, I told you, when
we started American Heritage Girls in Georgia several years
ago, my. Our troop was going on a camping
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trip, and my husband was not able to go at the time. So
my girls and I were like, well, okay, here we go. We're gonna. We're gonna
do this. And I had. Now I've been camping before. We. People are gonna roll
their eyes because we lived in an RV for two and a half years, but
this was not RV camping. And even then, I still was trying to figure out
how to live in an rv. This was like camping in a tent and
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having to bring and prepare your own food and figure out how to
live on the dirt. And I had never done this by myself before.
And I was like, okay, here we go. I don't know how this is all
going to unfold, but we got there. We got to the campground, and I remember
there were. We had the Trail Life boys, and then we had
American Heritage Girls, and of course, many of those families, you know, linked
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together. And so we started putting up our tent, and some
of the boys came over. They said, can we help you? And, like, they wanted
to help. They wanted to show that they could put our tent up for us.
And so they put the tent up, and all of the families worked together. And
it was really cool to see the dads who were there. There were a few
dads there, but just learning together
how. How to camp, you know, as simple as that sounds, for some people, that's
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a very natural thing, but for me, it wasn't. And so it was really
neat just to see how the families just interacted with
one another, with their children. And we. The kids put on a play.
I mean, we did all kinds of fun things, and it was really an exciting
thing, just teaching these kids the importance of the
family unit. And so you're right. I mean, that is where Satan is attacking
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our society at the core. Because if he can get a hold of the families,
he can get a hold of, of anything, I mean, then he's got all the
power. And so it's so important. Really quickly, I want to talk about
integrity, because in your mission, you have. Your mission is to
build women of integrity. And I want to start kind of back at those
really little itty bitty girls who are getting started.
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And your goal is to take these little ones and help their
parents along this way of growing them into women of
integrity. What does that look like? Well, the word integrity is an
interesting one. It comes from the word integrous, which means whole. And
so when we are looking at a girl and we are
just touching one part, perhaps the academic or just maybe
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perhaps social, we are missing it. We're trying to be
whole. We're trying to talk about every part of the young girl.
The spiritual, the mental, the academic, the physical.
All of these are the way the Lord created us. And let us let, you
know, let us not miss one or the other. And that is what American
Heritage Girls does. It addresses the faith component as the primary
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foundation, the solid rock on which we should stand, the solid
rock on which all the curricula is written, the solid rock in which
every activity is chosen. And that is a very
important piece. Now, the physical piece, that's important, too. If we're not healthy,
we're not taking care of our bodies, we can't be people of influence. And
people of influence doesn't mean people of affluence. That's very important.
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Influence is influencing one another. We all have that
role. And I then will traject a little bit further. I believe
leadership is influence, and therefore anyone that
influences someone is a leader. That doesn't mean you're in the front of the line,
necessarily, but it means you have an obligation
to influence others as the way that the Lord would want
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us to. And so to emulate
his being, his wholeness, his
integrity. And that's how we approach this whole
ministry. It's not an arts and crafts club. And, you know, camping's an
important part. Yvette. Thank you. I'm glad your troop brought you camping
and that you had to stretch outside of your normal comfort
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zone. And you didn't even have a chocolate on your bed. You know, it was.
You are doing it really, really right. But the thing about that is
it's teaching the girls resilience. Yeah. And that is
important, important characteristic for Any
girl, particularly today, especially a
Christian girl, because we have to stand for
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what we believe in and we have to be ready to defend it and
to be able to explain it and to own it. And so
we help girls know their own faith. Their family's faith is
honored, but they need to understand that. They need to own that.
You can't really get to heaven on your parents shirt coattails. Right.
You've got to develop your own relationship with Christ and American
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Heritage Girls helps that along with the church and along with the primary
discipler being the parents. Right, right. Okay, so
what does this look like on a day to day basis? You know, you're taking
a homeschool family, they've got some girls. How can a
parent, both mom and dad, help girls
establish a life of integrity and service
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and faith in all of these things on
a daily basis? Well, that's the thing about AHG
is it is doing life together. Granted, you only meet maybe once
a week or once every other week, but you're also doing these
other kinds of activities such as the camping trip or
it, or it might be going to visit the state capitol and learning
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about legislative Day, or it might be going to a field trip
to learn about astronomy. I mean, the sky's the limit. And
by the way, the curricula is well loved by
homeschoolers. Yeah. Because it is excellent. Right, Yvette? I mean,
you know, because you so good. Yeah. People. People are like, my
goodness, the state administrator that was checking out to make sure that they were learning
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all these things, that this handbook is a. It's almost enough. You know, there's,
there's a great framework for Christ centered adulting and that's what I like
to call our curricula. And we also talk about things like
leadership in those troop meetings and we also talk about
love for country. We don't live in a perfect country,
Yvette, but it is a country that is one that
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is worthy of understanding and for us to roll
back the scrolls of history and to make a dent in it
ourselves and to understand that it was found in a godly heritage
and to reclaim that. And American Heritage Girls believes that there's
a reclamation. And I think we all agree
that we do need a revival in our country and we need
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to understand who we are and whose we are. And so American Heritage Girls
does all of that. Yeah. Within there's weekly meetings that are hosted
or generally owned by the charter organization, which tends
to be a church, a homeschool co op at
times, a private school, all of any, any kind of
entity that has a board of directors and aligns with the state statement of faith.
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That is very important to the charter organization as well
as adult members. We reach out to girls who believe in God
but they may not be Christians themselves because 5 year olds rarely are
truly bonafide Christians. Yeah, they're living on their parents faith but
we want to be able to continue to evangelize to them and
to raise them up in a way they should go. Amen. Amen. Such great stuff.
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Well, we are out of time but we will be back next week with Patti
again. Continue talking about raising girls. You know our
job is to raise our girls to love Jesus and to follow him
and so AHD is here to help us with that if that's
something that you want to be part of with your family. And
Patti, tell our listeners where they can find out more about HD and if
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they don't have an American Heritage Girls troop in their
area, how they can start one. Check out
our website, americanheritagegirls.org and you can
see in the top right corner you can find a troop in your area by
putting your zip code in that search finder. Or you can learn how to
start a troop in your area and to have a legacy that will continue on
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for many, many years. Yes, great stuff. We'll put all those links in the show
notes. You guys, thank you so much for listening. We will be back with you
next Tuesday. You can find everything at our website, schoolhouserocked.com
we love you and pray that you have a great rest of your week. We'll
see you back here then. Bye.