May 31, 2023 • 15 mins
Finding Meaning In Life With Grief and Loss.
In this episode, I share my experience and life advice on finding meaning in life with grief and loss. I share my experience in coping with grief and loss and how to find meaning in life by using the experience to further fuel us in living purposefully with the legacy of our loved ones.
Coping with grief and living with loss is an experience that we figure out slowly. In this episode, I share how it's changed my life and how I've found meaning while still coping with grief and living with loss.
Finding meaning in life with grief and loss can be challenging. I hope this episode provides a light in your own grief and loss journey.
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(00:01):
You're now listeningto the Self-Development Collective,
a podcast in community full of inner workand self-development ideas
to help us get unstuckand become the person we truly want to be.
Hi guys, and welcome to the SelfDevelopment Collective.
So in this episode, we're talking abouthow to find meaning after loss.
(00:23):
And this is a piece of, well,
this episode is a piece of adviceon helping us to cope with grief, but
helping us to cope with grief as we startto move forward with our lives.
So I do want to make sureand make very clear with this episode
that, you know, this will be five yearssince my brother passed away.
So I'm in a differentstage in my grief right now.
(00:48):
And so this
episode is really for onlyif you feel like you're open to it
and not to be afraid to not take it onif you don't feel you're ready
because everybody'sgrief journey is different.
I know that if I was in the first twoyears of my grief,
I'm not sure if I would have wantedto hear this episode,
so I'll be honest about that,just because I just think that finding
(01:11):
meaning after loss
is something that you can only start to dowhen you truly feel ready
and there's no ready points.
Like there's no yeah,there's a month. It's nothing like that.
I truly believe that
everyone's grief journey is different,everyone's experience is different.
And while there can be similaritiesin the experiences of grief
in a sense, feelings that come upand triggers and milestones, for example,
(01:32):
like majority of us willfind that love has sorry,
majority ofus will find, like our loved ones birthday
hard, like they're coming, thingsthat come up in grief.
There's no set stage, there's no set
moment where you should feel readyto move forward or find meaning.
It's really an individual processin that respect.
So I do want to
(01:53):
just make surethat I say that in this episode,
because I don't want people tofeel pressured when they listen to this.
But I also know that finding meaning
after loss is one of the toughest topicsto talk about.
And it's not really often COVID because
again, it is an individual process.
But I do think that evenwhen a process is individual,
you know, hearing someone's experienceor getting some guidance around
(02:16):
it can only help us a bitto feel less lonely.
So I want to share with you
how I'vemanaged to find meaning after Lost.
And something that I recognize isI really started to think of this work.
So when we've lost someone, firstly
finding meaning for meinitially was impossible.
So let's just at thatand be honest about it.
(02:37):
It's impossiblebecause you feel meaningless.
You feel like life is meaninglesswithout them.
You don't understandthe point of continuing on without them,
and they are all common experiencesthat we might not always talk about.
But this. So they're so common.
Like I remembertalking to someone who had lost a few.
I really quickly
(02:57):
through illnessand we were talking and she said,
you know, talking to me,
she was telling mehow she was talking to a therapist
and she was telling a therapisthow she was having suicidal thoughts.
And her therapist really normalizedthe experience and was like,
of course, you know, you love them,you want to be where they are.
So these thoughts are really normal.
And when she said that to me helpedbecause I had been having similar thoughts
(03:17):
but hadn't been saying anything because,
you know, people always say things like,Oh, don't say that.
That would want you to say,you know, those sort of comments
and I understand peoplewanting to say what they think is best.
And that's not like it'snot a thing of people not trying.
I just think that it helps sometimesto hear that these experiences are normal
and to hear that these experiences,they do come up and it's absolutely okay
(03:40):
that they do.
So you're not crazy, you gravy.
And that's something that I really wish
someone had said to mebecause I felt like I was going crazy.
I felt really depressed.
I didn't want to be here.
I didn't couldn'tfind meaning in anything.
I felt like I was just waiting, livingand waiting till it was my time to go.
That was literally how it felt,especially at the beginning.
(04:00):
So how do we move from that spacethat really deep, dark space,
to finding a place where we can integrateour grief in our life
and use it to fuze meaningand to create meaning?
And so this is where this iswhere I'm at in my life right now.
So this is what I really wantto bring forward,
because I know that this is, again,a really challenging topic to talk about
(04:23):
and somethingthat a lot of people struggle with.
And I completely understand that.
So how do we find meaning?
So this is something that helped me,and I always want to say
take what resonates live,what does it because again,
this is an individual processand I just want to share
my experience in the hopes that part of itresonates with you.
Part of it you can take and use itfor your own experience,
(04:43):
but again, only take what resonatesand leave what doesn't.
So when it comes to meaningsomething that I,
I think is really helpedand something that I recognize
is when I was getting throughinto that space of being able
to want to look at what was importantto me with this new perspective,
(05:04):
I recognized the differencebetween the way I used to think
and the perspective I used to have.This is now.
So when it comes to creating or findingthat sense of meaning in life again,
I think the first thing for meand I think the first thing that you might
want to look at is
looking at what matters to you.
Now, based on the perspectivethat grief has given you.
So for me, I was really able
(05:26):
to appreciate how important it isto do the things that I love.
I was also able to really appreciatehow important small moments
like conversations and having,you know, having a laugh with the people
that you love and having having a drinkand having a social time with people
that are really important to you
or saying the things that you thinkneed to be said in a sense, like,
(05:46):
you know,
if you want to tell someonethat you love them
or have these really deep and meaningful.
Being comfortable,having those asking people questions
that aren't just like,Oh, what are you doing with your life,
but deeper questionsand wanting to understand people?
And I started to really appreciate
the importance of those moments.
So those are thingsthat I really started to learn,
(06:08):
and I also started to understand
the perspective that grief gives youis not one that everyone carries, because
literally the way I can explain it is I,
I have a walking, talking reminderevery day of how short life is
because I literally am reminded every daythat my brother is here.
So that is a walking,talking reminder of literally
(06:32):
how brief life can be and how quicklywe can lose the ones that we love.
And it sounds really cliche,but it's really the only way that
I can explain it, and it's the best waythat explains how I'm feeling.
So when I think of those thingsand I think about the way I used to think
in the way I used to worry,
I really understood thatmy life had shifted, that my perspective
(06:54):
had shifted so that what I the what I didand not realizing at the time.
But now when I look back on things,I really started to implement
those understandings and those new valuesthat I had in two different areas.
So for example, really
appreciating having dinner with my familyand being present, putting my phone down,
really beingpresent with my daughter, practicing,
(07:16):
you know, small things like again,putting my phone down,
really appreciating those tiny smilesand those moments which she lost
in those moments where she looks at youthere, tiny, tiny moments.
But I just am so grateful for them.
And having tiny moments with my husbandwhere it's like
reminding him I love you more,sending him a nice message or having those
(07:36):
really deeply meaningful conversationsand putting ourselves out there
also.
Also, it's come up so much in my workthat I'm really persistent
in following through with thingsthat are really important to me.
Why am I here?
You know, I'm trying to do my bestwith what I've learned
and help myself and others create a lifethat they truly want to live.
Because I understand thatnot everyone gets that experience.
(07:58):
I mean, my brother didn't in certain ways.
And soI understand the importance of that.
And I suppose in a way as well,this is how I carry his legacy on,
which is another pointthat I wanted to get to.
So the first thing is looking atwhat this experience has brought you,
the different perspective,the different values,
what was important to youand what is important to you now.
(08:20):
Right?
And then it's about adding those thingsinto those different areas of your life.
You know, for example,you might understand and appreciate
how important it is to slow down soyou might add something into your routine,
something simple, like, you know, there'sjust things that that you do differently.
And I think that that'swhere you start to create that meaning
(08:40):
by using that experienceto create those small moments
and making choices in those moments,to use what you've learned
to choose a life and choose those momentsthat are different to what you
would have chosen previously.
So then
for me, that that's really how we start
to integrate that loss into our livesand carry it forward with us.
(09:02):
Now, the second thing that I think helpsyou bring meaning is also understanding
that person's legacy and finding a wayfor you to bring that into your life.
So, for example, my brother would lovethat I'm talking about this.
He would love some of the workthat I'm about to do.
I'm about to
venture into an online grief space
(09:22):
where we can offer resourcesand support to people that are grieving.
Because I know there's
lots of books out there,but I do feel like we need a space where,
you know, there's more resourcesand helping us learn
how to cope and more informationand and more support around grief.
And I know that that's very my brother,like if he had survived,
he would have been helping peoplewith cancer, talking them through
(09:46):
like my father was very much a help.
And I think for me,
this is my way of carrying his legacyforward,
of becoming this personthat wants to help, becoming this person,
that wants to learn from everythingand learn from his his experience
and seeing his experience and being ableto fuze that into what I do daily.
(10:06):
And this is what the self-developmentcollective is about, right?
It's about a gentle wayof bettering ourselves
and living a life that we cantruly say is ours.
And that's something that I thinkmy brother
would be really proud of and encourageand something he would have done.
I remember there washe was in this group with other people
that had disabilities and whatnotbecause my brother had had a brain tumor.
(10:31):
So it was kind of like he had a stroke.
His personality changed and he hadhe couldn't he couldn't walk properly.
And there were a couple of things.
So and I remember he met this youngthis really young person
who had a disabilityand he had a really hard life.
And my brother got him to come overand let him books and did all this stuff.
And I'll never forget a social workercame up to him and said,
(10:52):
Ah, I heard thatyou hung out with this person.
And my brother's like,Yeah, you know, I just want to help.
And the social worker looked at himand said, You're changing his life.
And he didn't like the thingthat was great about my brother.
He wasn't trying to do anything grand.
He was just trying to showthat person that he was there.
And he loved that.
He he basically was in tearswhen the social worker said that.
And I never remember my brothersaying, I just want to help.
(11:15):
And so I think for me, seeing that moment
really taught me the kind of legacythat I want to continue on for him.
And it's and the thing about griefis the thing about grief
that I recognize iswe don't get to choose what happens.
We don't get to choosehow our loved ones go.
We don't get to choosewhen they for how long they stay.
We don't get the choice,even though we think we do, we don't.
(11:35):
And that's something that I've had to takeon and acknowledge in my grief.
I didn't get to choose how my brother win.
I didn't get to choose thathis life was shorter than he wanted.
I didn't get to choose his experience.
But the thing that I can choosenow is how to use his legacy
and all his experience and everythingthat I saw and take that forward
and try and make my life betterand hopefully some other people's
(11:56):
lives better, I'm like, Well, I'm going.
And that's really where I'm at right now.
And I think that's what gives me meaning,knowing that I'm doing work
that infuses my experience and hisexperience and everything I've learned.
And it
also helps me to act on my griefand to live with migration,
to live through my griefbecause I'm using it and to fuel me.
(12:18):
I'm using it to help megive me that different perspective and add
meaning in different areas of my life.
So that's something that I really wanted.
I wanted to mention today.
It's such it's really hardwhen you're dealing with grief,
when you're coping with loss,when you're trying to figure out
how the hell am I going to move forwardwhen I don't want to?
How am I going to move forward when I feellike there is no meaning in life left?
(12:42):
And I think it does takeit does take a while to get to this point.
Well, it did for me.
My not for everybody.
Again, everybody'sexperience is different, but it took me
honestly, I just started doing this workwith grief and just decided on this
in the past couple of weeks because
earlier on I wouldn'thave been ready for it even last year.
This is not a place I would have been in,but now I understand
(13:03):
and I'm less afraid to take the griefand move with it,
because I was concerned
that if I moved with the griefall the time,
that it would just be a constant,depressing thing.
But for me, it's not.
For me, it's again,a way of carrying the legacy
and honoring my brotherthrough choosing ways to live
through his experienceand use that experience and use it.
(13:24):
I believe his characteristicsand who he was to Fuze, you know, who I am
and who I want to be.
And that is something that I've readis quite common as well.
You know,
apparently that we tend to take on traitsof our loved ones after they passed away.
And I didn't think that's a bad thing.
I think that's a coping thing.
And obviously, being aware ofthat is important in case we start to go
too far away from ourselves.
(13:45):
But I think integratingparts of that person
is a way of us moving forwardand carrying them as we go.
And I like that idea.
It works for meand I choose to live that way. So
I'm going to leave it here
because this is really the conversation
that I wanted to talk aboutwhen it came to coping with grief, coping
with loss, living with loss and learninghow to find meaning.
(14:06):
Again, awesome loss.
So I hope that you find this episodehelpful to
keep an eye on these on on my channel.
If this is something
that you're interested in in terms of,you know, joining an online grief
support communitywhere we can talk about our grief
but also figure out ways to copeand live with our loss as well.
You know, it's not just about it.
(14:27):
It is about talking about the person,
but it's also about talkingabout ourselves and honoring our lives
and how we can live againthrough that legacy
and use that experience and use thatto make our lives more meaningful.
So I hope this episode has been helpfulas always,
and I will catch you in the next one.
Thank you so much for listening.
You're now listeningto the Self-Development collective,
(14:49):
a podcast in a community full of innerwork and self-development ideas
to help us get unstuckand become the person we truly want to be.
You're now listeningto the Self-Development Collective,
a podcast in community full of inner workand self-development ideas
to help us get unstuckand become the person we truly want to be.
Hi guys, and welcome to the SelfDevelopment Collective.
So in this episode, we're talking abouthow to find meaning after loss.
(00:23):
And this is a piece of, well,
this episode is a piece of adviceon helping us to cope with grief, but
helping us to cope with grief as we startto move forward with our lives.
So I do want to make sureand make very clear with this episode
that, you know, this will be five yearssince my brother passed away.
So I'm in a differentstage in my grief right now.
(00:48):
And so this
episode is really for onlyif you feel like you're open to it
and not to be afraid to not take it onif you don't feel you're ready
because everybody'sgrief journey is different.
I know that if I was in the first twoyears of my grief,
I'm not sure if I would have wantedto hear this episode,
so I'll be honest about that,just because I just think that finding
(01:11):
meaning after loss
is something that you can only start to dowhen you truly feel ready
and there's no ready points.
Like there's no yeah,there's a month. It's nothing like that.
I truly believe that
everyone's grief journey is different,everyone's experience is different.
And while there can be similaritiesin the experiences of grief
in a sense, feelings that come upand triggers and milestones, for example,
(01:32):
like majority of us willfind that love has sorry,
majority ofus will find, like our loved ones birthday
hard, like they're coming, thingsthat come up in grief.
There's no set stage, there's no set
moment where you should feel readyto move forward or find meaning.
It's really an individual processin that respect.
So I do want to
(01:53):
just make surethat I say that in this episode,
because I don't want people tofeel pressured when they listen to this.
But I also know that finding meaning
after loss is one of the toughest topicsto talk about.
And it's not really often COVID because
again, it is an individual process.
But I do think that evenwhen a process is individual,
you know, hearing someone's experienceor getting some guidance around
(02:16):
it can only help us a bitto feel less lonely.
So I want to share with you
how I'vemanaged to find meaning after Lost.
And something that I recognize isI really started to think of this work.
So when we've lost someone, firstly
finding meaning for meinitially was impossible.
So let's just at thatand be honest about it.
(02:37):
It's impossiblebecause you feel meaningless.
You feel like life is meaninglesswithout them.
You don't understandthe point of continuing on without them,
and they are all common experiencesthat we might not always talk about.
But this. So they're so common.
Like I remembertalking to someone who had lost a few.
I really quickly
(02:57):
through illnessand we were talking and she said,
you know, talking to me,
she was telling mehow she was talking to a therapist
and she was telling a therapisthow she was having suicidal thoughts.
And her therapist really normalizedthe experience and was like,
of course, you know, you love them,you want to be where they are.
So these thoughts are really normal.
And when she said that to me helpedbecause I had been having similar thoughts
(03:17):
but hadn't been saying anything because,
you know, people always say things like,Oh, don't say that.
That would want you to say,you know, those sort of comments
and I understand peoplewanting to say what they think is best.
And that's not like it'snot a thing of people not trying.
I just think that it helps sometimesto hear that these experiences are normal
and to hear that these experiences,they do come up and it's absolutely okay
(03:40):
that they do.
So you're not crazy, you gravy.
And that's something that I really wish
someone had said to mebecause I felt like I was going crazy.
I felt really depressed.
I didn't want to be here.
I didn't couldn'tfind meaning in anything.
I felt like I was just waiting, livingand waiting till it was my time to go.
That was literally how it felt,especially at the beginning.
(04:00):
So how do we move from that spacethat really deep, dark space,
to finding a place where we can integrateour grief in our life
and use it to fuze meaningand to create meaning?
And so this is where this iswhere I'm at in my life right now.
So this is what I really wantto bring forward,
because I know that this is, again,a really challenging topic to talk about
(04:23):
and somethingthat a lot of people struggle with.
And I completely understand that.
So how do we find meaning?
So this is something that helped me,and I always want to say
take what resonates live,what does it because again,
this is an individual processand I just want to share
my experience in the hopes that part of itresonates with you.
Part of it you can take and use itfor your own experience,
(04:43):
but again, only take what resonatesand leave what doesn't.
So when it comes to meaningsomething that I,
I think is really helpedand something that I recognize
is when I was getting throughinto that space of being able
to want to look at what was importantto me with this new perspective,
(05:04):
I recognized the differencebetween the way I used to think
and the perspective I used to have.This is now.
So when it comes to creating or findingthat sense of meaning in life again,
I think the first thing for meand I think the first thing that you might
want to look at is
looking at what matters to you.
Now, based on the perspectivethat grief has given you.
So for me, I was really able
(05:26):
to appreciate how important it isto do the things that I love.
I was also able to really appreciatehow important small moments
like conversations and having,you know, having a laugh with the people
that you love and having having a drinkand having a social time with people
that are really important to you
or saying the things that you thinkneed to be said in a sense, like,
(05:46):
you know,
if you want to tell someonethat you love them
or have these really deep and meaningful.
Being comfortable,having those asking people questions
that aren't just like,Oh, what are you doing with your life,
but deeper questionsand wanting to understand people?
And I started to really appreciate
the importance of those moments.
So those are thingsthat I really started to learn,
(06:08):
and I also started to understand
the perspective that grief gives youis not one that everyone carries, because
literally the way I can explain it is I,
I have a walking, talking reminderevery day of how short life is
because I literally am reminded every daythat my brother is here.
So that is a walking,talking reminder of literally
(06:32):
how brief life can be and how quicklywe can lose the ones that we love.
And it sounds really cliche,but it's really the only way that
I can explain it, and it's the best waythat explains how I'm feeling.
So when I think of those thingsand I think about the way I used to think
in the way I used to worry,
I really understood thatmy life had shifted, that my perspective
(06:54):
had shifted so that what I the what I didand not realizing at the time.
But now when I look back on things,I really started to implement
those understandings and those new valuesthat I had in two different areas.
So for example, really
appreciating having dinner with my familyand being present, putting my phone down,
really beingpresent with my daughter, practicing,
(07:16):
you know, small things like again,putting my phone down,
really appreciating those tiny smilesand those moments which she lost
in those moments where she looks at youthere, tiny, tiny moments.
But I just am so grateful for them.
And having tiny moments with my husbandwhere it's like
reminding him I love you more,sending him a nice message or having those
(07:36):
really deeply meaningful conversationsand putting ourselves out there
also.
Also, it's come up so much in my workthat I'm really persistent
in following through with thingsthat are really important to me.
Why am I here?
You know, I'm trying to do my bestwith what I've learned
and help myself and others create a lifethat they truly want to live.
Because I understand thatnot everyone gets that experience.
(07:58):
I mean, my brother didn't in certain ways.
And soI understand the importance of that.
And I suppose in a way as well,this is how I carry his legacy on,
which is another pointthat I wanted to get to.
So the first thing is looking atwhat this experience has brought you,
the different perspective,the different values,
what was important to youand what is important to you now.
(08:20):
Right?
And then it's about adding those thingsinto those different areas of your life.
You know, for example,you might understand and appreciate
how important it is to slow down soyou might add something into your routine,
something simple, like, you know, there'sjust things that that you do differently.
And I think that that'swhere you start to create that meaning
(08:40):
by using that experienceto create those small moments
and making choices in those moments,to use what you've learned
to choose a life and choose those momentsthat are different to what you
would have chosen previously.
So then
for me, that that's really how we start
to integrate that loss into our livesand carry it forward with us.
(09:02):
Now, the second thing that I think helpsyou bring meaning is also understanding
that person's legacy and finding a wayfor you to bring that into your life.
So, for example, my brother would lovethat I'm talking about this.
He would love some of the workthat I'm about to do.
I'm about to
venture into an online grief space
(09:22):
where we can offer resourcesand support to people that are grieving.
Because I know there's
lots of books out there,but I do feel like we need a space where,
you know, there's more resourcesand helping us learn
how to cope and more informationand and more support around grief.
And I know that that's very my brother,like if he had survived,
he would have been helping peoplewith cancer, talking them through
(09:46):
like my father was very much a help.
And I think for me,
this is my way of carrying his legacyforward,
of becoming this personthat wants to help, becoming this person,
that wants to learn from everythingand learn from his his experience
and seeing his experience and being ableto fuze that into what I do daily.
(10:06):
And this is what the self-developmentcollective is about, right?
It's about a gentle wayof bettering ourselves
and living a life that we cantruly say is ours.
And that's something that I thinkmy brother
would be really proud of and encourageand something he would have done.
I remember there washe was in this group with other people
that had disabilities and whatnotbecause my brother had had a brain tumor.
(10:31):
So it was kind of like he had a stroke.
His personality changed and he hadhe couldn't he couldn't walk properly.
And there were a couple of things.
So and I remember he met this youngthis really young person
who had a disabilityand he had a really hard life.
And my brother got him to come overand let him books and did all this stuff.
And I'll never forget a social workercame up to him and said,
(10:52):
Ah, I heard thatyou hung out with this person.
And my brother's like,Yeah, you know, I just want to help.
And the social worker looked at himand said, You're changing his life.
And he didn't like the thingthat was great about my brother.
He wasn't trying to do anything grand.
He was just trying to showthat person that he was there.
And he loved that.
He he basically was in tearswhen the social worker said that.
And I never remember my brothersaying, I just want to help.
(11:15):
And so I think for me, seeing that moment
really taught me the kind of legacythat I want to continue on for him.
And it's and the thing about griefis the thing about grief
that I recognize iswe don't get to choose what happens.
We don't get to choosehow our loved ones go.
We don't get to choosewhen they for how long they stay.
We don't get the choice,even though we think we do, we don't.
(11:35):
And that's something that I've had to takeon and acknowledge in my grief.
I didn't get to choose how my brother win.
I didn't get to choose thathis life was shorter than he wanted.
I didn't get to choose his experience.
But the thing that I can choosenow is how to use his legacy
and all his experience and everythingthat I saw and take that forward
and try and make my life betterand hopefully some other people's
(11:56):
lives better, I'm like, Well, I'm going.
And that's really where I'm at right now.
And I think that's what gives me meaning,knowing that I'm doing work
that infuses my experience and hisexperience and everything I've learned.
And it
also helps me to act on my griefand to live with migration,
to live through my griefbecause I'm using it and to fuel me.
(12:18):
I'm using it to help megive me that different perspective and add
meaning in different areas of my life.
So that's something that I really wanted.
I wanted to mention today.
It's such it's really hardwhen you're dealing with grief,
when you're coping with loss,when you're trying to figure out
how the hell am I going to move forwardwhen I don't want to?
How am I going to move forward when I feellike there is no meaning in life left?
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And I think it does takeit does take a while to get to this point.
Well, it did for me.
My not for everybody.
Again, everybody'sexperience is different, but it took me
honestly, I just started doing this workwith grief and just decided on this
in the past couple of weeks because
earlier on I wouldn'thave been ready for it even last year.
This is not a place I would have been in,but now I understand
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and I'm less afraid to take the griefand move with it,
because I was concerned
that if I moved with the griefall the time,
that it would just be a constant,depressing thing.
But for me, it's not.
For me, it's again,a way of carrying the legacy
and honoring my brotherthrough choosing ways to live
through his experienceand use that experience and use it.
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I believe his characteristicsand who he was to Fuze, you know, who I am
and who I want to be.
And that is something that I've readis quite common as well.
You know,
apparently that we tend to take on traitsof our loved ones after they passed away.
And I didn't think that's a bad thing.
I think that's a coping thing.
And obviously, being aware ofthat is important in case we start to go
too far away from ourselves.
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But I think integratingparts of that person
is a way of us moving forwardand carrying them as we go.
And I like that idea.
It works for meand I choose to live that way. So
I'm going to leave it here
because this is really the conversation
that I wanted to talk aboutwhen it came to coping with grief, coping
with loss, living with loss and learninghow to find meaning.
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Again, awesome loss.
So I hope that you find this episodehelpful to
keep an eye on these on on my channel.
If this is something
that you're interested in in terms of,you know, joining an online grief
support communitywhere we can talk about our grief
but also figure out ways to copeand live with our loss as well.
You know, it's not just about it.
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It is about talking about the person,
but it's also about talkingabout ourselves and honoring our lives
and how we can live againthrough that legacy
and use that experience and use thatto make our lives more meaningful.
So I hope this episode has been helpfulas always,
and I will catch you in the next one.
Thank you so much for listening.
You're now listeningto the Self-Development collective,
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a podcast in a community full of innerwork and self-development ideas
to help us get unstuckand become the person we truly want to be.
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