September 3, 2024 • 13 mins
Today on the Smarticle Podcast we share Larry's experiences of starting new jobs and dealing with technology challenges. Larry, a seasoned Silicon Valley professional, recounts trying to adapt to modern tech after decades in radio. We discuss the impacts of relying solely on a phone for a week, family dynamics, and adjusting to new career demands. Larry also shares personal anecdotes about managing a busy household, golf escapades, and the surprising effects of trying a nicotine patch. A candid conversation laced with humor and insights on adapting to change.
00:00 Starting Fresh: New Beginnings and Challenges
01:13 Larry's Tech Struggles: A Week Without Computers
02:21 Family Dynamics and Communication Woes
09:12 Career Shifts and New Routines
10:56 Unexpected Adventures: Golf and Nicotine Patches
13:09 Reflections and Lessons Learned
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(00:16):
It's like riding a bicycle again.
Like maybe you're like five years old.
And then you don't ride abike till you're like 40.
This is what we're doing, Brandon, me andyou, brand new, like brand new settings,
brand new jobs, brand new computers,but most people don't know behind the
curtain is that Larry has worked inSilicon Valley in the tech world for 30
years, but is absolutely enough, imagineyou're like crazy uncle that's lived in
(00:39):
a bunker and never had any technology.
And he's like, how do youturn on this new fangled?
You mean your phone, things like that?
Or how do you type on a computer?
That's Larry.
He doesn't know.
Anything.
So he left a job, a radiojob of 30 years to start.
And he's provided me a microphone,literally, they just rubbed his head
(01:00):
and everything was done for him.
And now he's got to figureout how to make this work.
So we, the reason we were off for aweek because Larry could not figure out
what computers were and how they work.
So we got it now.
Interestingly, Larry though, wayback when, do you remember this?
We did an article about people.
That were different communities thatdid not have access to computers.
(01:24):
And it was said that, certainminority groups would spend, like,
do all their work on their phones.
And so it affected them.
You just spent a week doingnothing but working on your phone.
What was that like?
Wasn't that I worked on my phone.
You've missed, that's not correct.
And first of all, areyou gonna rub my head?
Like they did at iHeartMediaNo, you're not gonna no one's
(01:45):
ever gonna rub your head dude.
No, that's it.
Those days are over.
Those days are gone.
So Yes, no, I did have to spend aweek of not having a computer like
how many computers I think thereare in this house There's like my
each of my kids have a computer.
My wife has a computer Theyhad four extra Chromebooks.
My father in law gave me his computer.
(02:06):
None of them worked.
Not one computer worked for me Nobodywould let me borrow their computer.
So literally I'd have to checkthe credit card bill On my phone.
I have to do the, I had todo everything on my phone.
That's not, that's honestly,it's no way to live.
But there's also a weird thing in therethat like, why wouldn't anybody let you
use their computer to do this stuff?
(02:28):
Cause I'm raising my kids poorly.
We don't share, everybody'sout for themselves.
It is Lord of the flies esk.
What about your wife?
Did she let you use anything?
No.
Oh no.
She's the worst.
No, there's no way Icould use her computer.
Not really.
Yeah.
None.
Not yet.
That's shocking that your own familywouldn't show you the love that
(02:48):
you needed during a stressful time.
I'm actually shocked.
It's not stress well, it was stressful.
There was just so much going on in thelast week between getting a new job,
trying to do this with you, trying toget a computer, my brain being exhausted.
It was like, it was good that wetook a sabbatical is what I'm saying.
Yeah, it was good.
I got to release a bunch of newshows and work on a bunch of stuff.
(03:11):
And that was fun.
It made me realize how much I likedoing this with you, even though
sometimes sometimes honestly,and this is not tongue in cheek.
So for Pat Olson out there, I do feellike sometimes that I work with a very
small, like second, first grade childwho needs a lot of handholding and then
throws tantrums when they don't gettheir way, I do feel like that a lot.
But in general, I enjoy doing this.
(03:34):
That's untrue.
It's when you're unprofessional andyou're late and you're just saying
sometimes I have to get angry at youbecause you're late and you throw tantrums
literally on the show about contentand it's you're single track minded.
And I'm like, that's what I haveto like, put my foot right up your
keister and be like, Hey, come back.
(03:54):
Thank you, Larry.
Thank you for teaching mehow to be a professional.
I really genuinely appreciate it.
Oh, because here's the thing thatyou sometimes forget about this show.
Oh.
It's a discussion.
We're like, we're trying to engage some.
So when you pound the rock of youropinion, don't ever open up to,
Hey, what are the possibilities?
(04:15):
Let's have, let's just for kicks andgiggles, have a discussion about this
topic, even though you might not like it.
When you get on one of those rants,it's really hard to get you off.
Fair.
That's, I think that's a fair statement.
I think though, that I take.
Respect your acumen as a broadcaster.
Sometimes I think thatyou're not super bright.
And so it's hard for you to make.
(04:35):
Connections and so I try to leadyou down to a place where we
can have a conversation That'sedifying to others you get stuck.
You're like There's no chocolate in thatNo chocolate, and it's like okay, dude.
All right So I'm going to do it your way.
So here's the key to, here's the key tomy non success in broadcasting, which I
(04:59):
don't even have any, was never successful.
By the way, I did see your boy, Idid see your boy from TRL Live is
doing, he's like a new game show host.
I, every time I see him, I think of you.
You're a hero.
Carsa Daly.
Carsa Daly.
Are you talking, right?
Seek rest.
Oh, Ryan, no, Ryan Seacrest.
Isn't he your nemesis, Ryan Seacrest?
Ryan Seacrest now hosts Wheel of Fortune.
(05:19):
He's taking over Pat Sajak.
Yeah, and just printing money.
He needs another job.
And the best part is I saw himinterviewed and they're like, Can you
believe this guy started out in radio?
Oh, you just stick the knife into Larry.
Just stick it right into Larry becauseyou guys started roughly at the same time.
Right.
And he's yeah.
But guess what, Brandon?
He doesn't have three kids thatwon't share a computer with them.
(05:40):
And a wife who's up is, hedoesn't have any of that.
He doesn't, he just has a mansionand lives in LA and just does
ketamine or whatever he does.
Yeah.
He doesn't have to vacuum crumbsout of his kids, everywhere.
I will say this, but because in all, sowe've been trying to get this sorted out
for a week and very legitimate reasons whyall this stuff has happened over the last
(06:01):
week and a good for taking a break, but Iwill tell the audience another, a little
behind the curtain on Larry Olson is.
Larry Olson is a horrible communicator,a self described horrible communicator.
Yesterday, I was trying to get a holdof Larry, because he told me, I'm
really busy this weekend, I'm gonnatry to find time to record, and I'm
like, okay, so let me figure thisout, and he wasn't communicating.
(06:23):
So I called his phone, no answer.
Texted, no answer.
Called his wife, no answer.
I text or call his 16 year old daughter.
Who answers the phone, verysweet, kind, in that way, you've
done a great job as a parent.
And she said, Oh yeah, mydad's golfing right now.
So it was more important for you togo play golf with your buddies than
(06:45):
it was to work on the things that youhad said you were going to work on.
So I just want to makesure we're clear on that.
It has been such an insane.
I feel like I keep saying this It was suchan insane week of all that was going on
in my house my new job My wife her fatherblah blah like we didn't even talk to each
other And so people are like, hey, can youwhat are you doing this three day weekend?
(07:07):
I can't really communicate with my wifeto figure out my three kids schedules
to figure out our schedule to be ableto do Anything so people be like,
hey, can you do and i'm like Hey,Brandon, I can't talk with my partner.
Can you unpack that for all of us?
Anybody that's married knowsthat sometimes can be, or any
partner of any kind can havecommunication could be a problem.
Why, how could you not talk to your wife?
(07:29):
I don't understand that part.
And I've known you for 30 years,so I'm trying to figure it out.
As my mother in law passed awayrecently, but then my father in
law decided to have knee surgery.
So he's needed constantaround the clock care.
So if you know this too,Brandon, I have a full time job.
My wife has a full time job.
She's a teacher.
(07:50):
So she's flustered becauseschool just started.
Three kids are all back to school.
So now we're commuting 45 minutesaway to take care of my father in
law in knee surgery while goingto work and providing for all the
other things that family needs.
So when the fun three day weekend comesup, there was just no time, literally.
(08:10):
Literally to Santa be like, Hey,what are we doing this weekend?
There was no time for that.
But you couldn't talk toeach other on the phone.
I'm being serious.
You just literally couldn'tcall, talk to each other.
It was like to ship.
It was like back to school night.
It honestly, just like thefloodgates were just like shoo, shoo.
And so of all the things we had toliterally get done, fun time, three
(08:32):
day weekend, just couldn't slot it in.
And then finally on Friday night,we were like what can I was
like, Oh, I can golf on Sunday.
We just put it all togetherin the last second.
Wait a second.
Okay.
So let's talk, let's,there is a point to this.
Other than a, a catching folks up on,on where we've been and lots of people
like, wait, what does this have todo with Smarticle or anything else?
What can you express to folks?
(08:53):
Your.
What was it like not to have the thingsyou'd been used to for that amount of
time and what the what would that be liketo be in a family where you didn't have,
you couldn't order a computer online?
I'm a 50-year-old man.
Yes.
Literally old.
50.
Old.
Tri, tri.
It completely changed not onlyjobs, careers, like my life,
(09:18):
I, for my entire life was.
Sitting behind a radio mic, entertainingpeople, reading them the news, asking
questions, being a jester of some sorts.
I have completely switched careers to nowwhere I'm a public information officer,
where I'm supposed to tell the public.
In a calm, collected, thorough,deep manner, what is going on for
(09:42):
a department in San Francisco?
It has been like a, honestly, drinkingfrom a fire hose as a 5th year old
guy, completely, the informationthat's coming, the learning curve.
Not to mention that I used to wake up at 4o'clock, now I wake up at 6, going to bed.
How is that?
Is that nicer?
It has its, it, I just go to, I ama nine to five slob, no offense to
(10:07):
all the nine to five slobs out there.
I am now officially one of those.
I get up at six, I do mypushups, meditation, go to work.
I get home at six, I cook peopledinner by about eight o'clock.
My brain can't work anymore.
I put on a Netflix show and I go tobed and I do that five times a week.
That's really what I do.
But that's only been two weeks, soyou never know what could happen.
(10:28):
In theory, it'll look easier.
My brain will adjust and my, all ofthis will not be so catty wampus.
All of that to say is how couldyou not talk to your wife or
plan your three day weekend?
Because my head has been spinningmy, by the way, my 86 year old mom
might be, or might not be listening.
Haven't, I called heronce in like two weeks.
(10:50):
It's a bad son.
I'm just telling you, I've been,it's why didn't your father in law
move in with you guys for a week?
Man, oh, is this gonna if your wifeever listen your wife's not gonna my
life has been insane Trying to get a newlife together He was married to somebody
for 60 years and they died So hey allof a sudden moving into my house would
(11:11):
be a big change for him as well I dothink at some particular point someone
will say Hey larry, I was punking youi've had a video camera following you
for the last five weeks We're puttinga documentary together about how
Crazy and insane your life has been.
And I'll be like that makes sense nowbecause just nothing's made sense.
Did you enjoy yourround of golf yesterday?
(11:33):
At least I thoroughly enjoyedmy round of golf rounds.
Oh, wait, you played more thanone round of golf yesterday?
We played one and a half.
Oh, so I'm sure you were drinkingadult beverages out on the course.
Having a good time.
Might've had a good time.
Wow.
I'm glad to hear that atleast the, there's a cherry
(11:54):
on top of the week at least.
Someone gave, a good friend ofours, like we're playing around
and and someone was a smoker.
So they gave me one of these likenicotine patches called Y's, W Y Z.
Never heard of it.
I don't know.
I never heard of it either.
But he's like, ah, you want some nicotine?
I'm like, no, I'm good.
Awesome.
Nicotine.
Holy cow.
It's don't do nicotine.
Yeah.
It'll make you sick.
(12:14):
Oh man.
My heart started pounding out of my other.
Why would you scream that?
It's like, what's nicotine?
I don't even know what nicotine is.
I don't smoke.
I don't really.
So I took this.
Somebody said, Hey, take this ketamine.
Would you do it?
Why would take ketamine?
But like nicotine, that's just sick.
I'll have one of those.
I, no one in the world wouldever think that was okay.
A couple of us, one of my friendsthat does smoking is like,
(12:36):
I'll try that nicotine patch.
And I was like, don't do it.
If you're ever offered a nicotineThat could be the dumbest thing
I've ever heard of in my life.
Dude, why would anybody take anicotine patch that doesn't need it?
Why not?
Just okay.
How did it affect you, Larry?
Yeah.
I'm just, yeah.
I'm not going to do it again.
I'm like, it sounds stupid becausethat's something that like a 14
(12:57):
year old do like, Hey, you try it.
No, you try it.
Why would a 50 year oldman do something like that?
I hate, I said, I had a nicotine patch.
I'm not going to do it anymore, but okay.
Now I know what nicotine makes your heart.
Hey, Larry, I would like to thankyou for teaching me that even a
50 year old man can change andbecome better through technology.
It's like riding a bicycle again.
Like maybe you're like five years old.
And then you don't ride abike till you're like 40.
This is what we're doing, Brandon, me andyou, brand new, like brand new settings,
brand new jobs, brand new computers,but most people don't know behind the
curtain is that Larry has worked inSilicon Valley in the tech world for 30
years, but is absolutely enough, imagineyou're like crazy uncle that's lived in
(00:39):
a bunker and never had any technology.
And he's like, how do youturn on this new fangled?
You mean your phone, things like that?
Or how do you type on a computer?
That's Larry.
He doesn't know.
Anything.
So he left a job, a radiojob of 30 years to start.
And he's provided me a microphone,literally, they just rubbed his head
(01:00):
and everything was done for him.
And now he's got to figureout how to make this work.
So we, the reason we were off for aweek because Larry could not figure out
what computers were and how they work.
So we got it now.
Interestingly, Larry though, wayback when, do you remember this?
We did an article about people.
That were different communities thatdid not have access to computers.
(01:24):
And it was said that, certainminority groups would spend, like,
do all their work on their phones.
And so it affected them.
You just spent a week doingnothing but working on your phone.
What was that like?
Wasn't that I worked on my phone.
You've missed, that's not correct.
And first of all, areyou gonna rub my head?
Like they did at iHeartMediaNo, you're not gonna no one's
(01:45):
ever gonna rub your head dude.
No, that's it.
Those days are over.
Those days are gone.
So Yes, no, I did have to spend aweek of not having a computer like
how many computers I think thereare in this house There's like my
each of my kids have a computer.
My wife has a computer Theyhad four extra Chromebooks.
My father in law gave me his computer.
(02:06):
None of them worked.
Not one computer worked for me Nobodywould let me borrow their computer.
So literally I'd have to checkthe credit card bill On my phone.
I have to do the, I had todo everything on my phone.
That's not, that's honestly,it's no way to live.
But there's also a weird thing in therethat like, why wouldn't anybody let you
use their computer to do this stuff?
(02:28):
Cause I'm raising my kids poorly.
We don't share, everybody'sout for themselves.
It is Lord of the flies esk.
What about your wife?
Did she let you use anything?
No.
Oh no.
She's the worst.
No, there's no way Icould use her computer.
Not really.
Yeah.
None.
Not yet.
That's shocking that your own familywouldn't show you the love that
(02:48):
you needed during a stressful time.
I'm actually shocked.
It's not stress well, it was stressful.
There was just so much going on in thelast week between getting a new job,
trying to do this with you, trying toget a computer, my brain being exhausted.
It was like, it was good that wetook a sabbatical is what I'm saying.
Yeah, it was good.
I got to release a bunch of newshows and work on a bunch of stuff.
(03:11):
And that was fun.
It made me realize how much I likedoing this with you, even though
sometimes sometimes honestly,and this is not tongue in cheek.
So for Pat Olson out there, I do feellike sometimes that I work with a very
small, like second, first grade childwho needs a lot of handholding and then
throws tantrums when they don't gettheir way, I do feel like that a lot.
But in general, I enjoy doing this.
(03:34):
That's untrue.
It's when you're unprofessional andyou're late and you're just saying
sometimes I have to get angry at youbecause you're late and you throw tantrums
literally on the show about contentand it's you're single track minded.
And I'm like, that's what I haveto like, put my foot right up your
keister and be like, Hey, come back.
(03:54):
Thank you, Larry.
Thank you for teaching mehow to be a professional.
I really genuinely appreciate it.
Oh, because here's the thing thatyou sometimes forget about this show.
Oh.
It's a discussion.
We're like, we're trying to engage some.
So when you pound the rock of youropinion, don't ever open up to,
Hey, what are the possibilities?
(04:15):
Let's have, let's just for kicks andgiggles, have a discussion about this
topic, even though you might not like it.
When you get on one of those rants,it's really hard to get you off.
Fair.
That's, I think that's a fair statement.
I think though, that I take.
Respect your acumen as a broadcaster.
Sometimes I think thatyou're not super bright.
And so it's hard for you to make.
(04:35):
Connections and so I try to leadyou down to a place where we
can have a conversation That'sedifying to others you get stuck.
You're like There's no chocolate in thatNo chocolate, and it's like okay, dude.
All right So I'm going to do it your way.
So here's the key to, here's the key tomy non success in broadcasting, which I
(04:59):
don't even have any, was never successful.
By the way, I did see your boy, Idid see your boy from TRL Live is
doing, he's like a new game show host.
I, every time I see him, I think of you.
You're a hero.
Carsa Daly.
Carsa Daly.
Are you talking, right?
Seek rest.
Oh, Ryan, no, Ryan Seacrest.
Isn't he your nemesis, Ryan Seacrest?
Ryan Seacrest now hosts Wheel of Fortune.
(05:19):
He's taking over Pat Sajak.
Yeah, and just printing money.
He needs another job.
And the best part is I saw himinterviewed and they're like, Can you
believe this guy started out in radio?
Oh, you just stick the knife into Larry.
Just stick it right into Larry becauseyou guys started roughly at the same time.
Right.
And he's yeah.
But guess what, Brandon?
He doesn't have three kids thatwon't share a computer with them.
(05:40):
And a wife who's up is, hedoesn't have any of that.
He doesn't, he just has a mansionand lives in LA and just does
ketamine or whatever he does.
Yeah.
He doesn't have to vacuum crumbsout of his kids, everywhere.
I will say this, but because in all, sowe've been trying to get this sorted out
for a week and very legitimate reasons whyall this stuff has happened over the last
(06:01):
week and a good for taking a break, but Iwill tell the audience another, a little
behind the curtain on Larry Olson is.
Larry Olson is a horrible communicator,a self described horrible communicator.
Yesterday, I was trying to get a holdof Larry, because he told me, I'm
really busy this weekend, I'm gonnatry to find time to record, and I'm
like, okay, so let me figure thisout, and he wasn't communicating.
(06:23):
So I called his phone, no answer.
Texted, no answer.
Called his wife, no answer.
I text or call his 16 year old daughter.
Who answers the phone, verysweet, kind, in that way, you've
done a great job as a parent.
And she said, Oh yeah, mydad's golfing right now.
So it was more important for you togo play golf with your buddies than
(06:45):
it was to work on the things that youhad said you were going to work on.
So I just want to makesure we're clear on that.
It has been such an insane.
I feel like I keep saying this It was suchan insane week of all that was going on
in my house my new job My wife her fatherblah blah like we didn't even talk to each
other And so people are like, hey, can youwhat are you doing this three day weekend?
(07:07):
I can't really communicate with my wifeto figure out my three kids schedules
to figure out our schedule to be ableto do Anything so people be like,
hey, can you do and i'm like Hey,Brandon, I can't talk with my partner.
Can you unpack that for all of us?
Anybody that's married knowsthat sometimes can be, or any
partner of any kind can havecommunication could be a problem.
Why, how could you not talk to your wife?
(07:29):
I don't understand that part.
And I've known you for 30 years,so I'm trying to figure it out.
As my mother in law passed awayrecently, but then my father in
law decided to have knee surgery.
So he's needed constantaround the clock care.
So if you know this too,Brandon, I have a full time job.
My wife has a full time job.
She's a teacher.
(07:50):
So she's flustered becauseschool just started.
Three kids are all back to school.
So now we're commuting 45 minutesaway to take care of my father in
law in knee surgery while goingto work and providing for all the
other things that family needs.
So when the fun three day weekend comesup, there was just no time, literally.
(08:10):
Literally to Santa be like, Hey,what are we doing this weekend?
There was no time for that.
But you couldn't talk toeach other on the phone.
I'm being serious.
You just literally couldn'tcall, talk to each other.
It was like to ship.
It was like back to school night.
It honestly, just like thefloodgates were just like shoo, shoo.
And so of all the things we had toliterally get done, fun time, three
(08:32):
day weekend, just couldn't slot it in.
And then finally on Friday night,we were like what can I was
like, Oh, I can golf on Sunday.
We just put it all togetherin the last second.
Wait a second.
Okay.
So let's talk, let's,there is a point to this.
Other than a, a catching folks up on,on where we've been and lots of people
like, wait, what does this have todo with Smarticle or anything else?
What can you express to folks?
(08:53):
Your.
What was it like not to have the thingsyou'd been used to for that amount of
time and what the what would that be liketo be in a family where you didn't have,
you couldn't order a computer online?
I'm a 50-year-old man.
Yes.
Literally old.
50.
Old.
Tri, tri.
It completely changed not onlyjobs, careers, like my life,
(09:18):
I, for my entire life was.
Sitting behind a radio mic, entertainingpeople, reading them the news, asking
questions, being a jester of some sorts.
I have completely switched careers to nowwhere I'm a public information officer,
where I'm supposed to tell the public.
In a calm, collected, thorough,deep manner, what is going on for
(09:42):
a department in San Francisco?
It has been like a, honestly, drinkingfrom a fire hose as a 5th year old
guy, completely, the informationthat's coming, the learning curve.
Not to mention that I used to wake up at 4o'clock, now I wake up at 6, going to bed.
How is that?
Is that nicer?
It has its, it, I just go to, I ama nine to five slob, no offense to
(10:07):
all the nine to five slobs out there.
I am now officially one of those.
I get up at six, I do mypushups, meditation, go to work.
I get home at six, I cook peopledinner by about eight o'clock.
My brain can't work anymore.
I put on a Netflix show and I go tobed and I do that five times a week.
That's really what I do.
But that's only been two weeks, soyou never know what could happen.
(10:28):
In theory, it'll look easier.
My brain will adjust and my, all ofthis will not be so catty wampus.
All of that to say is how couldyou not talk to your wife or
plan your three day weekend?
Because my head has been spinningmy, by the way, my 86 year old mom
might be, or might not be listening.
Haven't, I called heronce in like two weeks.
(10:50):
It's a bad son.
I'm just telling you, I've been,it's why didn't your father in law
move in with you guys for a week?
Man, oh, is this gonna if your wifeever listen your wife's not gonna my
life has been insane Trying to get a newlife together He was married to somebody
for 60 years and they died So hey allof a sudden moving into my house would
(11:11):
be a big change for him as well I dothink at some particular point someone
will say Hey larry, I was punking youi've had a video camera following you
for the last five weeks We're puttinga documentary together about how
Crazy and insane your life has been.
And I'll be like that makes sense nowbecause just nothing's made sense.
Did you enjoy yourround of golf yesterday?
(11:33):
At least I thoroughly enjoyedmy round of golf rounds.
Oh, wait, you played more thanone round of golf yesterday?
We played one and a half.
Oh, so I'm sure you were drinkingadult beverages out on the course.
Having a good time.
Might've had a good time.
Wow.
I'm glad to hear that atleast the, there's a cherry
(11:54):
on top of the week at least.
Someone gave, a good friend ofours, like we're playing around
and and someone was a smoker.
So they gave me one of these likenicotine patches called Y's, W Y Z.
Never heard of it.
I don't know.
I never heard of it either.
But he's like, ah, you want some nicotine?
I'm like, no, I'm good.
Awesome.
Nicotine.
Holy cow.
It's don't do nicotine.
Yeah.
It'll make you sick.
(12:14):
Oh man.
My heart started pounding out of my other.
Why would you scream that?
It's like, what's nicotine?
I don't even know what nicotine is.
I don't smoke.
I don't really.
So I took this.
Somebody said, Hey, take this ketamine.
Would you do it?
Why would take ketamine?
But like nicotine, that's just sick.
I'll have one of those.
I, no one in the world wouldever think that was okay.
A couple of us, one of my friendsthat does smoking is like,
(12:36):
I'll try that nicotine patch.
And I was like, don't do it.
If you're ever offered a nicotineThat could be the dumbest thing
I've ever heard of in my life.
Dude, why would anybody take anicotine patch that doesn't need it?
Why not?
Just okay.
How did it affect you, Larry?
Yeah.
I'm just, yeah.
I'm not going to do it again.
I'm like, it sounds stupid becausethat's something that like a 14
(12:57):
year old do like, Hey, you try it.
No, you try it.
Why would a 50 year oldman do something like that?
I hate, I said, I had a nicotine patch.
I'm not going to do it anymore, but okay.
Now I know what nicotine makes your heart.
Hey, Larry, I would like to thankyou for teaching me that even a
50 year old man can change andbecome better through technology.
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