April 9, 2025 • 44 mins
Previously Recorded:
I wanted to republish this wonderful conversation with my dear friend Carole from July. Enjoy this fun loving episode that will definitely make you laugh!
Did you ever meet someone who can finish your sentence? Well my next guest Carole DeAngelo is that person. Carole says "Don't place a deadline on Yourself!" Words to live by!
In this episode of "Spill With Me, Jenny D," I am joined by the inspiring Carole DeAngelo, a prominent figure in Washington County. Broadcasting from the charming Vintage Grace Boutique, We dive deep into the realms of business, community, and personal growth.
Carole shares her journey from aspiring artist to influential businesswoman, emphasizing the importance of kindness, resilience, and community support. She also reflects on her impactful role in the Women in Leadership series and the lessons learned from her personal and professional experiences.
We have a heartfelt conversation about overcoming past challenges, embracing new opportunities, and the power of genuine connections. Carole says Practice Kindness! I agree 100%!
Tune in for an uplifting discussion that celebrates the strength and spirit of women in business.
There maybe some bloopers as well!
Special Shoutout to Kelly Moore and CFS Bank for being my Spotlight Supporter for July "Inspiring Women In Business Month!"
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Music.
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Hello, my beautiful people. Thank you for joining me with another episode of Spill With Me, Jenny D.
I am just so excited and thrilled to have my next guest here.
First of all, I'd like to do a shout out to my spotlight supporter for the month of July.
Thank you to Kelly Moore from CFS Bank.
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Let's do it together. I appreciate you. So thank you so much for being my spotlight supporter. Porter.
And now we're in this beautiful boutique. Drum roll. In Washington, VA.
And I am here at Vintage Grace Boutique. Thank you, Becca, for letting us use your space.
She's in the back. We're even wearing some of her clothes here. I've got this on.
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Now, I don't know if anybody recognizes this woman. I mean, if you're from Washington
County and you don't know Carol D'Angelo, there's something wrong with you. Okay. Wow.
Something wrong with you. Something wrong with you. something wrong you
better get on it you better get on get on it carol i
am so excited you're here today thank you for joining me today
i'm thrilled to be here it's only taken us a year
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maybe because we met through mutual friends and it was this instant connection
yes and from day one i've loved your energy your enthusiasm but most importantly
your heart oh you're so sweet no that we're not gonna start crying yet no geez
not in the first one minute 36 seconds.
No, but I'm thrilled to be here. So thank you for having me and having us.
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I am just so excited. See, when I talk about women in business and inspiring women,
you know, Carol is on that top of that list because what I see you doing for
the community and for everyone else and just being such a great friend to people
and not only just the way your work ethic is, but the way you approach people
every day with a smile on your face.
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And even Even when she's having a bad day, you don't know that,
because she is just always going
to be there like, hey, what's going on with you, or hey, how are you?
So bring us back a little bit to when you started in business,
I mean, what did you want to do?
What was your biggest, like, oh, I want to, my passion is to be blah, blah, blah? An artist.
My very, very ... Well, thank you for those compliments, first of all,
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but I have always wanted to be an artist.
I thought about it and thought, well, who's going to buy my paintings?
And typically artists become successful when they're dead, right?
Like that's what everybody, it's crazy.
What is that? I don't know, but I'm trying to dispel that right now.
So that was number one. And I went to school as an art major and then realized,
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what exactly am I doing with this?
Now, back then, you know, I'm a minute old.
And so back then ad agencies and things weren't a thing yet.
Right. So I really wanted to do that.
But what I really knew at a young age that my mom told me that I was the person
who brought people together, whether I was eight, 18, 28, 38.
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I brought people together and I didn't realize how right she was.
She is so right. Yes. And it's, it's because I want people to feel comfortable
and sometimes to a fault.
I mean, I mean, I think they define people pleasing after they studied me for
like a minute. Like, oh, okay, lady, like settle down.
But to me, it's never mattered who you are, where you came from, how much money you have.
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I want to treat you the same as I would treat the person, you know,
cleaning the toilets as the CFO of a company.
But I also want to be treated the same. So I have had to, in my career,
really navigate some difficult waters.
And I realize I learned so much from that.
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But, but number one was art. Number two, in my whole life, I just wanted to
be, I wanted people to connect, but I've always loved business.
Beckel will tell you a story that when I was a little girl, my mom and I shared
a room because she was a single parent and my brothers had the other room.
We shared a room and there was a desk and I would, and I have a,
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I have a CD and ADD and ABC and all the things, but everything had to be meticulous.
And I had my little desk and I, I, okay, this is where it's funny.
I was always the boss. I wore my dad. I know.
Shocker. She is not the boss. My mom said, that's really what I want.
Right. My mom was like that mouth. You had to be the boss, but I would wear
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one of my dad's ties and I would set everything up.
Right. And I always had a secretary and I was running some big company.
I was like eight years old. You were eight years old. So I always wanted to
be a business person, whatever that meant.
And I still to this day, don't know. Right. I don't know where I'm going to
land. That's probably the most important. That's the fun of it. Yes. Right?
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What's your story? I don't know. I would not know that I was sitting here with
Carol D'Angelo, who's an icon here in Washington County. I don't know about that.
Thank you. I don't know about that. And we were both sitting there thinking, wow, we look alike.
We both got our jackets on. We got our dark hair. We're both Italian.
Sisters from another year. Nothing rhymes with cousin.
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I can't think of anything. Nothing rhymes with cousin. But like you and like
the story you shared a couple of weeks ago, you don't know.
You don't even know where you're supposed to end up sometimes. And guess what?
That's totally okay. And I think we get so caught up.
Right now, especially, and we're supposed to be this in your life, right?
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A certain age, you're supposed to hit this. At another age, you know,
as a female, you're supposed to have 2.5 children and you're supposed to,
maybe you should be a stay-at-home mom or maybe not.
Who says? Right. Who the hell? I told you I was going to cuss.
She said I could, now I did. Bleep, beep, beep, beep. So, but who the hell? Right.
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Here's what matters right here.
Right Right here. I don't want somebody telling me what I need to do.
I don't want somebody telling me what I should be doing. But I let myself think
that, like you said, growing up, okay, well, this is what I'm supposed to do.
Right. I'm not supposed to branch out and do my own thing and travel or,
you know, meet new people. Yeah. No.
I mean, you stay in the house and you kind of find yourself and you're sitting
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there on the couch right now and you're listening to Carol and I and you're
thinking to yourself, hey, there's no way I can go out and do something or be
spontaneous or try something new.
No, you can't. You absolutely... And you can.
And here's the thing, male, female, doesn't matter your walk of life.
You may decide tomorrow you want to be a pilot, right? Right.
Or a son may decide next week, I do want to be an attorney. Right.
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And here's the thing though, the only parameters and deadlines that you have.
You might have to take a test by a certain time to achieve whatever,
or you might have to get a certification.
Okay, those are deadlines to achieve something. Do not place deadlines on yourself.
Oh, I like that. No, I'm serious. It bothers me. Yes.
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Because I have had so many younger people that I've mentored in my career,
whether it was personally or professionally, and they said, you know,
I need to be this at age 32.
Too when i i thought and this is a lesson i learned my own learn a very hard
way i thought at 30 my 30s i was gonna be driving a porsche yeah and i said
this at my speaking thing i thought a speaky thing i thought i was gonna be
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driving a porsche you know being the cfo csu,
no i'm driving a jeep wrangler i love it and you know what i love my life and i'm 56 and i have no.
Idea where i'm gonna land right i mean i love what i'm
doing right now where am i going to be in 10 years i don't know
and guess what i'm trying this is not something
that i learned easily this
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is a this is a capricorn i'm a capricorn i'm
aquarius okay so we get along we get along yes we're
supposed to yes we love each other but like i truly like
i i didn't realize everything had to be everything
was perfect everything so now i've had some really
difficult things in my life personally and I finally
am now saying to myself you know what
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Carol how about you practice what you preach yes I could tell you all day long
what you need to do I know tell you all day long we need to do I'm not listening
to myself at all like what I said before too is don't let your past know predict
your future no do not let that that burden on your back like I felt like when I spoke.
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I felt like that burden on my back that I was carrying around,
it lifted, you know, and I walked into a room, you know, right after I spoke
the next day and I was like, I'm here.
Exactly. Throw bullets at me, whatever, but I'm ready for it.
I'm ready for you to do this.
Yeah, I don't care. Judge me because I know who your friends are at the end of the day.
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You know who loves you and cares about you at the end of the day.
And that holds true to whether we were speaking in our 50s or a 20-year-old
listening who has no clue. It is not easy out there.
It's wonderful in here. It's lovely in here. It smells great.
But when you step out there, it's scary.
And I didn't realize just from
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talking to people from my speaking thing in March what an impact I made.
But the reason I made an impact is because I decided to be raw like you did.
But it also did the same thing for me. It was cathartic. It was, look, it's gone.
I've released what I've held on to since I was 18 years old.
I now can actually talk about it.
But you can move on. I can. Yes, we both moved on. For the listeners and viewers
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that don't know what we're talking about, because we act like everybody knows.
Yeah, that's true. So we're related, for sure. Yeah, we are.
So the Women in Leadership series just started.
And Kelly Moore and Leanna Spada, that's how you say it, Spada.
Yes, and they're rock stars. Yes, and Danielle Stahl Moore.
They came up with this. What a wonderful event. They brought,
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you know, women vendors, women vendors.
And Carol was the first speaker in March of 2024.
Yes, just a couple months ago. Felt like it was years. Yeah.
And, you know, you don't know what to expect the first one. You know,
tons of people sold out. We're like, oh, Carol's going to talk.
So when Carol got up there and she just spoke and she was very raw and very
intimate. and you just felt like you were on her journey and you were experiencing
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what she was experiencing.
And I looked at her that day and I said, you know what, you look at someone
and you say, that person is who I want to be.
I want to be able to stand up there and say what I need to say and get that
whatever was in your past that made you feel the way you felt or was it carrying
around with you. It was almost like I'm carrying that suitcase behind me.
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And I was like so empowered by you that day. I cried. I laughed.
I mean, she touched every emotion. But really what I really thought,
Carol, I said to myself, Carol is giving other women.
The chance to stand there and talk about things that are very uncomfortable.
And like we were saying, like you were saying, like perfectionists,
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like we are not perfect. And that word perfect does not exist.
But I felt like that was so nice. And then they asked me to speak just recently in July.
And I'll tell you what, I almost wanted to call in sick because I thought, I can't do this.
I don't want people to know my business.
Yep. And now I'm going to talk. because she
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she's so funny did the exact same thing
which was empower women to be
able to say it is okay for me
to say this to you it is okay to tell you what happened to me it is okay to
leave my past in my past i need to say this i need to forgive whomever or whatever
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or just get it off of my chest and now move on because, and that's absolutely right.
It is so easy to hang on to that bit of your past that is pulling you down.
Again, doesn't matter how old you are. Right. And, and it will continue to bubble up. Right.
Like we're going to still have stuff bubble up. Oh yeah. That doesn't feel great.
Right. And it is so wonderful to feel like you have people you can turn to.
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Like I've always felt like I could talk to you. I have other people,
Kelly and Leanna, what they're doing. Right.
And to me, and we talked about this, something else I want to talk about,
and this doesn't matter if you're male or female.
Right. It is a little different for females in the work world.
It's still different. I had a conversation with one of my friends just yesterday.
About the difference in male versus female pay and expectations. So it's still a thing.
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And so for us to sit here, it's getting better, but sometimes it gets worse
and we have to sit here and do this and tell everyone, like,
You are strong enough, you are worthy enough, and you deserve.
If I can teach 20-year-olds and 30-year-olds anything, it is do not settle,
do not hang on to your past.
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If you've made, we've all made a mistake. Yeah, do not settle.
Do not settle. I mean, and honestly, we've all made mistakes.
I made one today. I'll make one tomorrow. Right. What can I do?
I can learn and grow and say, I'm sorry if I need to. Yes. Yes,
but the past was there for a reason to teach us.
It cannot define us.
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It can help you become the person that you are, but don't allow it to define you.
And that's, it's just, it's bothering me because at my age of 56,
you know, I'm getting ready for 60 and I'm ready for it. I don't know, like 50s were tough.
40s were, whoa, they were, wow, they were weird. I know that I'm,
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I've looked at things differently now. You do.
You're right. When you turn a certain age, you start feeling like, this is me.
If you don't like me, I don't care anymore. I used to care so much about what
people thought of us. Well, and you released that. You released that a couple of weeks ago.
But for the people listening, you know, you might be in a relationship that you want out of.
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You might be in a job and you want to start a new career. You might want to have children.
You might need to adopt, whatever the case may be.
You, you, we, it's our path.
What's in front of us right here is ours to take, right? Right.
So I thought it was going to be something that I'm absolutely not.
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Yeah. No, never. I actually don't doing your art. I just started it again.
I just started it. And you know why?
Because my mother passed away a couple of years ago and we were a soap dog.
I feel like I know her. Well, that was the whole point of it.
So many people said that. And if you're not friends with me,
you want to be friends with me. you still hear soft dog isms because she was
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an amazing, very difficult woman though.
And I will tell you, she didn't play around.
The expectation level was here and you did this before you did anything else.
You had a chore, you did it. But my point is, she is the one who taught me so
much about me and how, but I didn't even know she did it at the time.
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I think it was and until she passed that I realized what she had instilled in
me we were her caregivers for years she lived with us my best friend.
Best job I ever had. My most favorite job was being her caregiver.
And it came with all sorts of things. She was mad all the time because she lost
her independence and she had dementia at early stages, but still had it. Her health was failing.
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She required a team. Like everybody in that house was all hands on deck, right?
So first and foremost, she was all of our first priority.
When she passed, I had a void and we bought a business. this and I have all
this energy and I'm depressed and grief and grief's a whole thing.
We could do a whole series on grief. Oh yeah.
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But I said to myself, I think it's time to paint.
And my aunt Didi, her youngest sister, pushed me and encouraged me.
And then I met Samantha Cortese at an event and I love her stuff.
And I was geeking out that I got to meet her. And I was like,
hold on, here are the stars aligning. It's time. She's a painter.
She's a painter in Washington.
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She's amazing she's a wonderful human and
that was it and now i'm painting again and it
is it is releasing things liberating right it's it's
releasing so much like grief or anger there's a picture here that i painted
a whole i'm pissed and you can see it when my hand is my hands are in it and
then other paintings are just free i hope it frees the person who buys it your
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expression And you're showing people like the different moods.
No, you're not going to see all those roses and rainbows and sunshines.
No, this is real life. It's real life. And I mean, she did this painting for me at my event. Oh, yeah.
And I was like, eyes wide open.
I said to her, my eyes are wide open. I can see now. I can see clearly.
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Like I wasn't sitting on the sidelines of my life watching it go by anymore.
I'm here. I'm present. Like I'm living. Right.
And when I saw that picture, I started to cry. Well, yeah.
Because I was like, first of all, the eyes are gorgeous. They're Becca's.
You've got to see Becca. Becca's eyes. Her wife's eyes. They're Becca's eyes. She's gorgeous.
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They're Becca's eyes. And I was just like, oh, my gosh, Carol,
you captured exactly what I wanted to be captured.
I wanted people to know that, yeah, it's never too late.
You know? I mean, I thought it was too late. Oh, wow, this is my life.
You know what? I'm just going to be taking care of my kids, sitting at home,
not doing anything I enjoy, you know, working for my friends and doing something
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that, you know, wasn't fulfilling me.
And how many people, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, whatever the age,
are doing things that aren't fulfilling them.
And so we talked on the phone for about
20 minutes about what she was going and speak about and it
was important for me to feel or understand
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your feelings if I couldn't feel them I'm an empath but if
I couldn't capture it I wanted to hear you oh I
heard you and I it is probably
my favorite painting and I say that about everyone but I really
think I know I say it about everyone the people are like every time
you paint so maybe I have a lot but that one to
me because it was becca's eyes and because
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every one of us male female does not
matter go through things at different points of their life right and you have
you have sometimes you have your blinders on that are really covering sometimes
your blinders may go like this so you can't see things on the side right right
but every once in a while if you listen and you're open right Right.
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And you embrace, then they open up and your eyes look bigger,
literally from the two weeks ago that you did this.
And so it doesn't matter if you're speaking in front of 200 people.
Speaking on a podcast, talking to your damn self. In the mirror.
I've done that all the time. You might just be like, listen, yo, hold up, bro.
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Get it together here. Cut this out. Wake up. Right.
But the other thing that's really, really, really always inspired me is trying
to understand another person.
And I post about this on Facebook all the time.
You don't know what someone else is going through. I knew you were going to
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say that. That's exactly what my tagline says.
You never know who else is dealing with the same shit. Right.
So don't you, you know, and I do, like, I'll always say, oh,
maybe they're just having a bad day.
Because I do want to, I used to, back then, I'd jump on the bandwagon with other
people, like, oh, yeah, like, you know, she's such a, she's being such a bitch today. Right.
I love this cussing. Guess what? How do you?
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Sorry, go ahead. I'm sorry. But I'm like, you know, so what?
They're having a bad day. You don't know what they're going through.
No. I think everybody thought I had this perfect life, you know, this.
You know I hate the word perfect. I do. And you look perfect. And I mean that.
No, no. Even when you're working out and you post pictures. But you want to
know why? You could have a full face of makeup on or no makeup at all.
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What comes out of you is your heart. and I don't think you've
ever realized that that's what we've seen Becca
and I have seen who you are as a human is your
heart and so that is extremely important
though that we if we can practice kindness every day maybe we can teach others
there are days where I am just flat out miserable me too I'm grumpy stuff happened
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at work stuff might be happening at home you know we're running a business because
buying a business during COVID was really very smart, said no one ever.
But anyway, but a lot of people did do it. Well, I know it's,
you know, anytime money's involved, it's causing flared up tensions.
So I'm miserable. I'm grumpy. I might be in line in the store and I am always
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A, late and B, in a hurry because I'm A, late and B, in a hurry.
So I'm always like, oh, nothing ever moves faster, including me.
I'm not fast. I'm I'm always like 10 steps ahead of my brain,
but I stop and I think about, look at the people around you in line,
whether you're in the grocery store or Target or wherever.
Be aware. Look at them. Someone in front of you might be so sad.
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You know, you have to say to them is, hello, you look nice.
How are you? Yes. You doing okay?
Right. Come on. So if everyone practiced kindness once a day...
Come on practice kindness once and
just once you know i mean think about like
and i am absolutely the worst
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offender of i'm trying to do 10 things at once i'm in a hurry i'm juggling like
a clown i sometimes say well you i'll start to send a text i need this you know
by this did you finish this it might be in like morning how about put good morning
on that how about good morning how I do the same. I know. Good morning. You okay?
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Like, can you do this for me? We're still teaching ourselves this kind of thing.
Every day. Yeah. I mean, I talk to Tex a lot, which is really comical.
Apparently, I say wanna and gonna.
Because it never gets want to or going to. I'm like, do I say gonna?
I must say gonna. It's a noise to hell. We got our Pittsburghese.
Right? It is. I think that's what it is.
But like, that's, that's, that, what do I want to do?
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What did I want to do? I loved art. But I also wanted to make,
I wanted to make people feel comfortable.
And I knew that when I was younger, I knew that like I wanted people to have
fun more than be comfortable.
I wanted to create fun. I wanted people to feel really good about themselves.
I get a compliment from one of my friends today that hit me so hard.
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She said, you do a really good job of making people feel included.
Yes, you do. I had no idea that. No.
You really do, Carol. That's my mother. I take negative 10% credit.
Soap dog. That is so nice. You don't leave people out. I won't.
Neither did soap dog. She didn't.
See, I didn't even think about that. That is really rare because at times you'll
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see people talking in groups and stuff, and sometimes you feel like it's a closed off circle.
Yeah. As soon as you walk in the room, and Becca's like this too,
as soon as you walk into Vintage Grace Boutique, their hearts are over there.
Welcome, come on in. You've known them for like 20 years.
And you're just like, oh my gosh, okay, I'm at home. You walk into some other
places and they don't even talk to you until you come up to the counter.
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And it's like, okay, well, I guess I don't really exist. And I've been trying
to be the bigger person where I would go somewhere and I would say to somebody
like, oh, hi, how are you?
Like you said, because you don't know what them going through.
But I think that there's sometimes I've learned also compliment other people. Oh yeah.
There's always something nice about someone. Your hair looks gorgeous.
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You can make somebody's day by saying, hey, I really like your alpha words. You get it.
Or the color looks nice on you. The color looks nice.
I mean, look, the color looks great on me. Black like my soul.
I didn't tell you I used to be in musicals and I did black and white when I
was in my 40s. I should have brought that up at the Women in Leadership. You sing?
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No, I used to. I was a wedding singer. I was a wedding singer.
I did not know that. I can play the spoons.
Did you say luda? Did you say luda for Ludacris? We just went to Ludacris.
I felt old and young at the same time. I felt old because I was probably the
only... But you're getting out there and you're not letting your life now be gone.
No, I'm not. Now, I will tell you, I put work first always.
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Yes. And so that was a lesson. Oh, yeah. Tell the listeners and viewers,
they don't know what you do. Oh, okay. She's a jack of all trades.
Okay, what I do currently is I'm the Director of Advertising and Events for, you ready?
The Observer Reporter, the Herald Standard, the Green County Messenger,
the Almanac, Reimagine Main Street Digital Agency, and we do 20-some events
with our event division.
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Holy crap, did you hear that resume?
That's what I do for work. She acts like she has time to even sit here and talk to me on my podcast.
Listen, I have time because I love you, but also we bought a boutique and I'm
now painting and we're going to kind of launch that soon where it's going to actually be a thing.
We're going to have a, hopefully I have a gallery here if I could paint fast enough.
But in my past, everyone makes fun of me.
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I was so very proud of being in mall management my whole career.
So for 20 years, it was the Washington Crown Center, the gallery of Mount Lebanon and the waterfront.
And I shifted gears and came back to Washington. I moved to Washington County.
I'm not even from here. I was going to say, where are you from?
Everyone thinks I'm from here. I moved here in 1998.
I'm originally from Weirton, West Virginia. oh okay yes so i
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i have mill mentality meaning weird
and steel i mean that was a whole like that was a
whole part of my fabric and i am most proud of
that because there's no mentality like mill mentality like you just you believed
in your town you supported your town you worked hard and that's what you're
doing here well and that's i came to washington it was tough they didn't you
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know who is this girl from west virginia i was at wheeling at the time i've
had i've been on radio I had a talk show.
I did the news. I mean, you heard that. Like, I love the broadcast piece.
I mean, I knew I was supposed to be talking for a living. I probably should
have done TV, but I took the, really, I probably should have been a TV anchor.
I love it. Yes. I love that.
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I went into mall management. It's not to say I won't. You know,
who knows where I'm going to land. The sky's the limit, baby. Exactly.
We can do whatever we want to do. I'm surprised you don't have your own podcast.
Well, because I like supporting my friends who have podcasts. So I'll be your guest.
If you need to fill in while you're on vacation you should do a blog I could
do a blog but I wanted to ask we didn't do what we said I'm in the hot seat now,
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we're running at how many minutes before we 27 I don't want people to get bored
we'll take a commercial break now,
wait Becca could do a commercial.
She's hiding in the back you could easily bring one of my paintings up never
mind I won't make you come up here she said she's not dressed she looks gorgeous
in a sack She always does it. Sack.
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So tell me, what is your favorite part of...
About this podcast. Oh my God. What is your favorite part or parts?
It might be more than one.
I'll tell you what, my favorite part about this podcast is meeting new people. I love that.
Because my heart, not that I thought my heart was closed, I feel like,
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you know, I wasn't branching off. I wasn't meeting new people.
I was kind of just staying in my own little Peter's Township circle of like,
you know, a few friends here and there.
But then you find out when your kids graduate, they weren't really your friends.
But that's another podcast.
But we digress. Yes. We'll talk about clicks at another minute.
Yeah, that's going to be another podcast. Yeah, I'm coming on that too.
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It's called The Mean Girls of Pittsburgh.
Mean girls are still a thing. Go ahead, back to you.
But no, it was a, it was a, and back to you. Back to you, Bob. Hi, I'm Jenny.
Back to you, Jenny. We should have our own show. For sure, we'd be funny.
We would be so funny. We need commercials though. I know someone that can sell advertising. Go ahead.
But no, I mean, I really feel like that if I wouldn't have found this in my
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life, I, you know, you don't know what you got until it's gone or you don't
know, you don't miss something if you don't already have it.
But what I found out with this podcast is that my heart is wide open.
Like I'm ready. Just come on in. Come on in. Like I am ready for you. I'm open for you.
I'm just, I'm here to provide this platform so that if you want to talk about
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something that nobody's talking about, you know, you're upset about something
or you have something that's like, listen, we need to talk about this.
Nobody else is talking about it.
I'm here. I don't talk about politics or religion because I feel like those
are your own views and you just keep them to yourself.
Plus, I don't know a lot about it and I don't keep myself... Leave it that way.
Yeah. And I mean, I thought I was just going to talk about, you know,
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everything and anything with this podcast.
What I'm finding out is I like a more of a variety show. Because if I had a
niche, because a lot of people are like, I just talk about.
You know, ghost stories or murders or, you know, this. I did not want to be
that person because I wanted to make sure that if somebody came up to me and
said, Jen, you know, I'm having a really hard time or, you know,
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something's going on in my life, then I was like, okay, here,
I have this platform for you. Let's talk about it because guess what?
You're not the only one. You feel alone. Right. You know, and I don't want people
to feel alone. I want people to know that you're not alone.
There are so many other people. And this podcast, I made it nationwide.
Wide i went on youtube and just when you know on her own she
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figured it out on her own she figured
it out it was fun but i love that youtube
you can learn anything yeah but you don't you know like you didn't have
to do that like you could have asked i don't
know tens tens of thousands of people that love you
you could have asked them you figured it out on your own and you
do provide a platform for people
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who need to learn about resources and you ask
the questions that need he'd asked and you have you have serious
and gritty and you have fun and
light and that's what's great about it you know and that's you
need that right i was just gonna say you need that in life
i'm telling you i'm i'm like right this i i know we're like we're being off
of each other it's so great and she smells great but so i i so i mean like i'm
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really proud of you for what you're doing and how about your family how proud
are they in the family But how proud are they of you?
Like they surrounded, supported, and cheered her on in her speaking engagement.
But beyond, like what you've done.
I have a big family now with all of these wonderful women, people, guests that I've had.
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I feel like I have so many people that I can turn to.
And that's a nice feeling. Yeah, it is. Pick up the phone.
And you know what makes me sad for people, though? How many people say, I don't have...
As many people around me supporting me, your circle, because I give.
Sometimes you have to think about relationships, regardless if it's,
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you know, a relationship of, you know, male, female, female,
female, whatever it is. It's a commitment.
It's a commitment. And so I want people out there that are hopefully listening
who feel like they don't have anyone.
Like things that are super important to me are suicide prevention.
I mentioned my brother committed suicides, mental health issues.
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Oh, yeah. That's where my you don't know. And I didn't come up with that.
I mean, I read it and, you know, numerous things.
But you really need to think about, yes, there are days where I am angry or
sad or feeling so very sorry for myself. I'm on my own damn nerves.
I hate that. I do, too. And I have to, like, pull myself.
It's like you're climbing a ladder or a rope and you can't get yourself out
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of it or you're swimming and you're drowning.
There are people out there who want to help you, whether you know them or not.
There are so many amazing resources, and social media can be great, and it can be terrible.
People say, oh, social media is a downfall.
Absolutely, if you follow the people that are pulling you down. And it's also up to us.
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How about we post some, how about post positive stuff for a week?
Right. Just positive, not negative garbage.
Right. There's so much out there and so many people and resources like what
you're doing for the people who may be saying, I don't have that network you do, Carol.
And you may not. It took me time to build this network and a lot of work.
So I want people to know that there are many ways and many things for people
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to do if they need help, if they're down, if they need support.
So many organizations, but you started it.
You started it here and what you're trying to accomplish. And I am very proud
of you for all those things.
And I just love how you touch people. I do. I love it. And you travel around
and you're trying to help small business.
And since it's Small Business Month, it's the hardest thing we've ever done.
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I mean, Becca's background, Becca is a jack of all trades. And she's good at
just about everything she does. Seriously.
The only thing she's not good at is basketball. Yeah.
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Is great. I mean, that's fantastic. I still have that award.
Listen, I think, I wonder if they do and they should, but so like,
honestly, like she and I, and this is hers.
I just, my name badge is supposed to say I do what Becca tells me. Cause that's what I do.
This is her forte. She's amazing at this. This is not for the faint of heart. This is hard.
It's scary. It's hard. Right. You know, you, it's the unknown.
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You don't know what's mark. We have to do pop-ups and you have to mix it up,
But we keep trying. We do our best. We fail.
But you guys help other small businesses. You bring in vendors.
Oh, my God. We love that. And you have food trucks and things like that.
To me, you have a DJ here. I mean, you make it so much fun.
Because we want to help. Thank you. We want to help other small businesses.
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We want to support each other.
It's so easy to click a button and order from Amazon. And we all do it. That's fine.
But you can easily shop locally in anything, whether it's a boutique or a restaurant.
Like we try to we try to support all local restaurants but
it also leads me into the competition okay
we don't need to compete we should be working together there's
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enough people right in in most markets that
you can work together support each other stop copying try to collaborate there's
a difference yes not compete let's collaborate stop the competition let's go
and that's forever that's good for everything let's collaborate and let's stop
mean girling and mean-boying, like enough of that. Right.
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Like enough of that. Yeah, it's, you know, it's taken me a while and,
you know, getting out there now. Yeah.
I always say, getting out in the workforce now. Like, I'm the one that's out
at my husband's home doing the laundry and dinner and stuff like that.
I love it. The roles have reversed, baby.
Good, I love it. I'm like, I'll see you later. What laundry detergent does he like? I love it.
No, seriously, like, I love it. But I mean, you know, at the end of the day,
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I would say 80%, no, I'm sorry, 90 to 95% of the people I meet are authentic and real.
And I will occasionally run into some people and I say to myself,
okay, Jen, don't put that negative stuff into your world.
Because like our cup, what is that? Your cup is half empty, half filled, whatever.
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As you can say, you can either say it's half empty or half full. Right.
Think about what you say. i always say my coffee cup
is half oh coffee's not a good example because coffee should be full all of
the time but anyway why are we drinking coffee i don't know it's coffee with
a little bailey's i know we missed the boat anyway anyway we'll do that for
the next one that's the next one yeah we should have a carol and jenny should
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we could no it'll be jenny and carol you get,
jc yeah that's great no but i mean you're right and i know we have to wrap it up but,
But my resounding message doesn't matter if it's small business month,
women in business month, any month, all months.
It's about what you said. You leave the past where it was.
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If you can do that, you learn and grow from it. Try to move forward.
That's hard for me, too. Trust me. My family calls us dwelling D'Angelo's. Think about it.
That's what we kind of are. But I try. Every one of us makes mistakes.
Shakes we're not yeah we're not we're not on this earth
we're still learning i'm learning so many new things every day
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every day i mean and that's what the message i want to leave with people please
try to be kind please it's a very very cruel world we're seeing so many negative
things right now and i don't definitely want to talk politics either but it's just so negative right
now yeah we can choose to engage right
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disengage don't pay attention we have
a choice and do not sell yourself short
oh my gosh my son has a tattoo that says that oh that could be my next one yeah
and it's in latin it's in latin i love it will you send me a picture yeah you
got it national look wait where it starts okay we forgot sorry we're talking
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to you okay let's wrap it up right is that the wrap-up symbol you don't yeah
don't mind us we're talking Talk amongst yourselves.
Go get a drink or something. Talk amongst yourselves. We'll be right back.
Yeah, we can have callers.
Oh, I used to do that. Okay, so my end game, and Carol's going to help me because
she knows it. I'd love it. I want to have my own talk show.
I love it. Where I do, and I want to have people interact in the audience.
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It's not like those ones like on The View where they're talking with each other
and everybody's just sitting there going, hey, yay.
You're right. No, I want to engage with other people.
Because I was going to ask you, and we're going to get off the subject,
what your end game was. is what you want to end up doing. Now I know. I'm helping.
Yeah, I mean, even if I just pop up at somebody's event or somebody's vacation
and just have some people in the audience like, hey, this subject today is,
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we're going to talk about Botox or something. Yeah. And then, you know. I think I need.
How do we look? Help us out here. I already got mine.
It's time for me. Okay. Okay, look what time it is. It's 40 minutes.
So you're in game. What you want to do is have a talk show where we're going to have people.
Today's topic will be Botox. Today's topic will be serious topics, depression.
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Today's topic will be what's your favorite sandwich because sandwich month's
coming up, which you just taught me.
Okay, we're going to have callers or people. We're doing it.
I want to help. We're doing it. I have no time and I want to help.
What do we think? Come on. Let's do it. I mean, okay, before we end this,
though, I have to tell you about Carol, though, because Carol not only –,
does like all the things she does, but she does these events at the Meadows
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Casino. I forgot about that.
Kegs and- Corks and kegs coming up on August 24th and 25th. Yes.
The Greater Pittsburgh Food Truck Festival, all for her, which she will also
be another model for. I just got her to schedule it.
Kids Fest, which is- That's beautiful on you, by the way. Kids Fest,
which is one of the biggest kids events.
We do First Fridays. We do an event in Uniontown called Founding Day.
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We do Farm to Fork in Greene County. if I had the
time I have ideas for 10 more I just told
my team today I said I want to do like an event that
involves this and they all were like they all
wanted to they looked at me like what and it's fun and they said oh okay so
there may be something else coming I love that stuff but I was in advertising
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so I love that stuff so we should just be partnering on all the things yeah
really but but here's why I do these because you're bringing people together in the community
and I want to spotlight the counties that we're working in, the cities that
we're working in, so that we can show, look at the good in the town,
look at the good in the community, look at these wonderful small businesses,
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eat locally, shop locally, right?
That's what I believe in. And how would they get, how would they find this?
Me? Yeah, like how would they find all these events? Where would they get along?
Oh, that's a good question. They can go to our Facebook pages.
They can go to the observerreporter.com. We have all of it on there.
We're about to create well actually we have a be local event
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we changed it all to be local events okay so we have a
be local.net website you can look at or
you can just reach out to me directly and i'll direct you because i love it we'll give
you her cell number no yeah yeah don't worry buzz me up i
can love that how many time facebook's the best way to get me right that's the
easiest way but yeah so be local.net the observer-reporter.com they're everywhere
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we're everywhere i would be in 10 more places if i could because i believe in
our communities and i believe in people. And I believe in you, girl.
I believe in you. Ditto. And I am just so excited that we finally got to do this.
And I'm telling you, time goes so fast with Carol because she's so much fun
and you just want to be around someone like her and Becca.
The team that they have together, they actually, they're so cute together because
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their personalities are different, but- Totally different.
I love it though, because when you see them, when Becca does her Vintage Grace Boutique live events.
It's funny because Carol just shows up in pictures and she's throwing stuff
and Becca's trying... It's really... It is so funny.
Yeah, throwing stuff. I look forward for the next one. So you got to pay attention to that.
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And I just want to say, you know, Becca, Carol, I am so blessed to have these
two women in my life. I feel like they're my sisters.
I feel like that if I needed something...
Then we'd be right there. Right there. And I'm not going to cry.
No, we did it. We made it without crying. We did not cry.
It's because we were being silly. We were going to go down that path and we
didn't. But we feel the same about you.
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And there's nothing you can't do. And you prove that.
And this is all making such a difference. And we are your sister.
And we love you. I love you, too. Let's do it. Let's do the thing.
Let's do the thing. We'll have guests. Okay.
It's your turn to wrap up. I'll shut up. I'm very excited.
I want to thank you again, honey, for being on my podcast. And this was another
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woman in business, inspiring woman in business for the month of July.
And thank you so much to CVS. CVS. CVS.
Wait, CVS. What?
I want to thank you. I want to thank CFS Bank.
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Thank you. I talk too fast. I'm the same.
That Pittsburgh. Maybe you put that into the atmosphere. beer.
We thank CFS Bank, but maybe CVS wants to be a sponsor.
So give us a call. That would be nice.
Thank you for joining me with another episode of Spill With Me,
Jenny D. Thank you. Take care.
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Music.
Music.
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Hello, my beautiful people. Thank you for joining me with another episode of Spill With Me, Jenny D.
I am just so excited and thrilled to have my next guest here.
First of all, I'd like to do a shout out to my spotlight supporter for the month of July.
Thank you to Kelly Moore from CFS Bank.
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Let's do it together. I appreciate you. So thank you so much for being my spotlight supporter. Porter.
And now we're in this beautiful boutique. Drum roll. In Washington, VA.
And I am here at Vintage Grace Boutique. Thank you, Becca, for letting us use your space.
She's in the back. We're even wearing some of her clothes here. I've got this on.
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Now, I don't know if anybody recognizes this woman. I mean, if you're from Washington
County and you don't know Carol D'Angelo, there's something wrong with you. Okay. Wow.
Something wrong with you. Something wrong with you. something wrong you
better get on it you better get on get on it carol i
am so excited you're here today thank you for joining me today
i'm thrilled to be here it's only taken us a year
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maybe because we met through mutual friends and it was this instant connection
yes and from day one i've loved your energy your enthusiasm but most importantly
your heart oh you're so sweet no that we're not gonna start crying yet no geez
not in the first one minute 36 seconds.
No, but I'm thrilled to be here. So thank you for having me and having us.
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I am just so excited. See, when I talk about women in business and inspiring women,
you know, Carol is on that top of that list because what I see you doing for
the community and for everyone else and just being such a great friend to people
and not only just the way your work ethic is, but the way you approach people
every day with a smile on your face.
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And even Even when she's having a bad day, you don't know that,
because she is just always going
to be there like, hey, what's going on with you, or hey, how are you?
So bring us back a little bit to when you started in business,
I mean, what did you want to do?
What was your biggest, like, oh, I want to, my passion is to be blah, blah, blah? An artist.
My very, very ... Well, thank you for those compliments, first of all,
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but I have always wanted to be an artist.
I thought about it and thought, well, who's going to buy my paintings?
And typically artists become successful when they're dead, right?
Like that's what everybody, it's crazy.
What is that? I don't know, but I'm trying to dispel that right now.
So that was number one. And I went to school as an art major and then realized,
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what exactly am I doing with this?
Now, back then, you know, I'm a minute old.
And so back then ad agencies and things weren't a thing yet.
Right. So I really wanted to do that.
But what I really knew at a young age that my mom told me that I was the person
who brought people together, whether I was eight, 18, 28, 38.
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I brought people together and I didn't realize how right she was.
She is so right. Yes. And it's, it's because I want people to feel comfortable
and sometimes to a fault.
I mean, I mean, I think they define people pleasing after they studied me for
like a minute. Like, oh, okay, lady, like settle down.
But to me, it's never mattered who you are, where you came from, how much money you have.
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I want to treat you the same as I would treat the person, you know,
cleaning the toilets as the CFO of a company.
But I also want to be treated the same. So I have had to, in my career,
really navigate some difficult waters.
And I realize I learned so much from that.
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But, but number one was art. Number two, in my whole life, I just wanted to
be, I wanted people to connect, but I've always loved business.
Beckel will tell you a story that when I was a little girl, my mom and I shared
a room because she was a single parent and my brothers had the other room.
We shared a room and there was a desk and I would, and I have a,
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I have a CD and ADD and ABC and all the things, but everything had to be meticulous.
And I had my little desk and I, I, okay, this is where it's funny.
I was always the boss. I wore my dad. I know.
Shocker. She is not the boss. My mom said, that's really what I want.
Right. My mom was like that mouth. You had to be the boss, but I would wear
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one of my dad's ties and I would set everything up.
Right. And I always had a secretary and I was running some big company.
I was like eight years old. You were eight years old. So I always wanted to
be a business person, whatever that meant.
And I still to this day, don't know. Right. I don't know where I'm going to
land. That's probably the most important. That's the fun of it. Yes. Right?
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What's your story? I don't know. I would not know that I was sitting here with
Carol D'Angelo, who's an icon here in Washington County. I don't know about that.
Thank you. I don't know about that. And we were both sitting there thinking, wow, we look alike.
We both got our jackets on. We got our dark hair. We're both Italian.
Sisters from another year. Nothing rhymes with cousin.
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I can't think of anything. Nothing rhymes with cousin. But like you and like
the story you shared a couple of weeks ago, you don't know.
You don't even know where you're supposed to end up sometimes. And guess what?
That's totally okay. And I think we get so caught up.
Right now, especially, and we're supposed to be this in your life, right?
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A certain age, you're supposed to hit this. At another age, you know,
as a female, you're supposed to have 2.5 children and you're supposed to,
maybe you should be a stay-at-home mom or maybe not.
Who says? Right. Who the hell? I told you I was going to cuss.
She said I could, now I did. Bleep, beep, beep, beep. So, but who the hell? Right.
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Here's what matters right here.
Right Right here. I don't want somebody telling me what I need to do.
I don't want somebody telling me what I should be doing. But I let myself think
that, like you said, growing up, okay, well, this is what I'm supposed to do.
Right. I'm not supposed to branch out and do my own thing and travel or,
you know, meet new people. Yeah. No.
I mean, you stay in the house and you kind of find yourself and you're sitting
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there on the couch right now and you're listening to Carol and I and you're
thinking to yourself, hey, there's no way I can go out and do something or be
spontaneous or try something new.
No, you can't. You absolutely... And you can.
And here's the thing, male, female, doesn't matter your walk of life.
You may decide tomorrow you want to be a pilot, right? Right.
Or a son may decide next week, I do want to be an attorney. Right.
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And here's the thing though, the only parameters and deadlines that you have.
You might have to take a test by a certain time to achieve whatever,
or you might have to get a certification.
Okay, those are deadlines to achieve something. Do not place deadlines on yourself.
Oh, I like that. No, I'm serious. It bothers me. Yes.
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Because I have had so many younger people that I've mentored in my career,
whether it was personally or professionally, and they said, you know,
I need to be this at age 32.
Too when i i thought and this is a lesson i learned my own learn a very hard
way i thought at 30 my 30s i was gonna be driving a porsche yeah and i said
this at my speaking thing i thought a speaky thing i thought i was gonna be
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driving a porsche you know being the cfo csu,
no i'm driving a jeep wrangler i love it and you know what i love my life and i'm 56 and i have no.
Idea where i'm gonna land right i mean i love what i'm
doing right now where am i going to be in 10 years i don't know
and guess what i'm trying this is not something
that i learned easily this
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is a this is a capricorn i'm a capricorn i'm
aquarius okay so we get along we get along yes we're
supposed to yes we love each other but like i truly like
i i didn't realize everything had to be everything
was perfect everything so now i've had some really
difficult things in my life personally and I finally
am now saying to myself you know what
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Carol how about you practice what you preach yes I could tell you all day long
what you need to do I know tell you all day long we need to do I'm not listening
to myself at all like what I said before too is don't let your past know predict
your future no do not let that that burden on your back like I felt like when I spoke.
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I felt like that burden on my back that I was carrying around,
it lifted, you know, and I walked into a room, you know, right after I spoke
the next day and I was like, I'm here.
Exactly. Throw bullets at me, whatever, but I'm ready for it.
I'm ready for you to do this.
Yeah, I don't care. Judge me because I know who your friends are at the end of the day.
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You know who loves you and cares about you at the end of the day.
And that holds true to whether we were speaking in our 50s or a 20-year-old
listening who has no clue. It is not easy out there.
It's wonderful in here. It's lovely in here. It smells great.
But when you step out there, it's scary.
And I didn't realize just from
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talking to people from my speaking thing in March what an impact I made.
But the reason I made an impact is because I decided to be raw like you did.
But it also did the same thing for me. It was cathartic. It was, look, it's gone.
I've released what I've held on to since I was 18 years old.
I now can actually talk about it.
But you can move on. I can. Yes, we both moved on. For the listeners and viewers
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that don't know what we're talking about, because we act like everybody knows.
Yeah, that's true. So we're related, for sure. Yeah, we are.
So the Women in Leadership series just started.
And Kelly Moore and Leanna Spada, that's how you say it, Spada.
Yes, and they're rock stars. Yes, and Danielle Stahl Moore.
They came up with this. What a wonderful event. They brought,
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you know, women vendors, women vendors.
And Carol was the first speaker in March of 2024.
Yes, just a couple months ago. Felt like it was years. Yeah.
And, you know, you don't know what to expect the first one. You know,
tons of people sold out. We're like, oh, Carol's going to talk.
So when Carol got up there and she just spoke and she was very raw and very
intimate. and you just felt like you were on her journey and you were experiencing
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what she was experiencing.
And I looked at her that day and I said, you know what, you look at someone
and you say, that person is who I want to be.
I want to be able to stand up there and say what I need to say and get that
whatever was in your past that made you feel the way you felt or was it carrying
around with you. It was almost like I'm carrying that suitcase behind me.
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And I was like so empowered by you that day. I cried. I laughed.
I mean, she touched every emotion. But really what I really thought,
Carol, I said to myself, Carol is giving other women.
The chance to stand there and talk about things that are very uncomfortable.
And like we were saying, like you were saying, like perfectionists,
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like we are not perfect. And that word perfect does not exist.
But I felt like that was so nice. And then they asked me to speak just recently in July.
And I'll tell you what, I almost wanted to call in sick because I thought, I can't do this.
I don't want people to know my business.
Yep. And now I'm going to talk. because she
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she's so funny did the exact same thing
which was empower women to be
able to say it is okay for me
to say this to you it is okay to tell you what happened to me it is okay to
leave my past in my past i need to say this i need to forgive whomever or whatever
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or just get it off of my chest and now move on because, and that's absolutely right.
It is so easy to hang on to that bit of your past that is pulling you down.
Again, doesn't matter how old you are. Right. And, and it will continue to bubble up. Right.
Like we're going to still have stuff bubble up. Oh yeah. That doesn't feel great.
Right. And it is so wonderful to feel like you have people you can turn to.
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Like I've always felt like I could talk to you. I have other people,
Kelly and Leanna, what they're doing. Right.
And to me, and we talked about this, something else I want to talk about,
and this doesn't matter if you're male or female.
Right. It is a little different for females in the work world.
It's still different. I had a conversation with one of my friends just yesterday.
About the difference in male versus female pay and expectations. So it's still a thing.
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And so for us to sit here, it's getting better, but sometimes it gets worse
and we have to sit here and do this and tell everyone, like,
You are strong enough, you are worthy enough, and you deserve.
If I can teach 20-year-olds and 30-year-olds anything, it is do not settle,
do not hang on to your past.
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If you've made, we've all made a mistake. Yeah, do not settle.
Do not settle. I mean, and honestly, we've all made mistakes.
I made one today. I'll make one tomorrow. Right. What can I do?
I can learn and grow and say, I'm sorry if I need to. Yes. Yes,
but the past was there for a reason to teach us.
It cannot define us.
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It can help you become the person that you are, but don't allow it to define you.
And that's, it's just, it's bothering me because at my age of 56,
you know, I'm getting ready for 60 and I'm ready for it. I don't know, like 50s were tough.
40s were, whoa, they were, wow, they were weird. I know that I'm,
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I've looked at things differently now. You do.
You're right. When you turn a certain age, you start feeling like, this is me.
If you don't like me, I don't care anymore. I used to care so much about what
people thought of us. Well, and you released that. You released that a couple of weeks ago.
But for the people listening, you know, you might be in a relationship that you want out of.
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You might be in a job and you want to start a new career. You might want to have children.
You might need to adopt, whatever the case may be.
You, you, we, it's our path.
What's in front of us right here is ours to take, right? Right.
So I thought it was going to be something that I'm absolutely not.
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Yeah. No, never. I actually don't doing your art. I just started it again.
I just started it. And you know why?
Because my mother passed away a couple of years ago and we were a soap dog.
I feel like I know her. Well, that was the whole point of it.
So many people said that. And if you're not friends with me,
you want to be friends with me. you still hear soft dog isms because she was
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an amazing, very difficult woman though.
And I will tell you, she didn't play around.
The expectation level was here and you did this before you did anything else.
You had a chore, you did it. But my point is, she is the one who taught me so
much about me and how, but I didn't even know she did it at the time.
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I think it was and until she passed that I realized what she had instilled in
me we were her caregivers for years she lived with us my best friend.
Best job I ever had. My most favorite job was being her caregiver.
And it came with all sorts of things. She was mad all the time because she lost
her independence and she had dementia at early stages, but still had it. Her health was failing.
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She required a team. Like everybody in that house was all hands on deck, right?
So first and foremost, she was all of our first priority.
When she passed, I had a void and we bought a business. this and I have all
this energy and I'm depressed and grief and grief's a whole thing.
We could do a whole series on grief. Oh yeah.
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But I said to myself, I think it's time to paint.
And my aunt Didi, her youngest sister, pushed me and encouraged me.
And then I met Samantha Cortese at an event and I love her stuff.
And I was geeking out that I got to meet her. And I was like,
hold on, here are the stars aligning. It's time. She's a painter.
She's a painter in Washington.
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She's amazing she's a wonderful human and
that was it and now i'm painting again and it
is it is releasing things liberating right it's it's
releasing so much like grief or anger there's a picture here that i painted
a whole i'm pissed and you can see it when my hand is my hands are in it and
then other paintings are just free i hope it frees the person who buys it your
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expression And you're showing people like the different moods.
No, you're not going to see all those roses and rainbows and sunshines.
No, this is real life. It's real life. And I mean, she did this painting for me at my event. Oh, yeah.
And I was like, eyes wide open.
I said to her, my eyes are wide open. I can see now. I can see clearly.
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Like I wasn't sitting on the sidelines of my life watching it go by anymore.
I'm here. I'm present. Like I'm living. Right.
And when I saw that picture, I started to cry. Well, yeah.
Because I was like, first of all, the eyes are gorgeous. They're Becca's.
You've got to see Becca. Becca's eyes. Her wife's eyes. They're Becca's eyes. She's gorgeous.
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They're Becca's eyes. And I was just like, oh, my gosh, Carol,
you captured exactly what I wanted to be captured.
I wanted people to know that, yeah, it's never too late.
You know? I mean, I thought it was too late. Oh, wow, this is my life.
You know what? I'm just going to be taking care of my kids, sitting at home,
not doing anything I enjoy, you know, working for my friends and doing something
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that, you know, wasn't fulfilling me.
And how many people, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, whatever the age,
are doing things that aren't fulfilling them.
And so we talked on the phone for about
20 minutes about what she was going and speak about and it
was important for me to feel or understand
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your feelings if I couldn't feel them I'm an empath but if
I couldn't capture it I wanted to hear you oh I
heard you and I it is probably
my favorite painting and I say that about everyone but I really
think I know I say it about everyone the people are like every time
you paint so maybe I have a lot but that one to
me because it was becca's eyes and because
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every one of us male female does not
matter go through things at different points of their life right and you have
you have sometimes you have your blinders on that are really covering sometimes
your blinders may go like this so you can't see things on the side right right
but every once in a while if you listen and you're open right Right.
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And you embrace, then they open up and your eyes look bigger,
literally from the two weeks ago that you did this.
And so it doesn't matter if you're speaking in front of 200 people.
Speaking on a podcast, talking to your damn self. In the mirror.
I've done that all the time. You might just be like, listen, yo, hold up, bro.
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Get it together here. Cut this out. Wake up. Right.
But the other thing that's really, really, really always inspired me is trying
to understand another person.
And I post about this on Facebook all the time.
You don't know what someone else is going through. I knew you were going to
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say that. That's exactly what my tagline says.
You never know who else is dealing with the same shit. Right.
So don't you, you know, and I do, like, I'll always say, oh,
maybe they're just having a bad day.
Because I do want to, I used to, back then, I'd jump on the bandwagon with other
people, like, oh, yeah, like, you know, she's such a, she's being such a bitch today. Right.
I love this cussing. Guess what? How do you?
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Sorry, go ahead. I'm sorry. But I'm like, you know, so what?
They're having a bad day. You don't know what they're going through.
No. I think everybody thought I had this perfect life, you know, this.
You know I hate the word perfect. I do. And you look perfect. And I mean that.
No, no. Even when you're working out and you post pictures. But you want to
know why? You could have a full face of makeup on or no makeup at all.
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What comes out of you is your heart. and I don't think you've
ever realized that that's what we've seen Becca
and I have seen who you are as a human is your
heart and so that is extremely important
though that we if we can practice kindness every day maybe we can teach others
there are days where I am just flat out miserable me too I'm grumpy stuff happened
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at work stuff might be happening at home you know we're running a business because
buying a business during COVID was really very smart, said no one ever.
But anyway, but a lot of people did do it. Well, I know it's,
you know, anytime money's involved, it's causing flared up tensions.
So I'm miserable. I'm grumpy. I might be in line in the store and I am always
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A, late and B, in a hurry because I'm A, late and B, in a hurry.
So I'm always like, oh, nothing ever moves faster, including me.
I'm not fast. I'm I'm always like 10 steps ahead of my brain,
but I stop and I think about, look at the people around you in line,
whether you're in the grocery store or Target or wherever.
Be aware. Look at them. Someone in front of you might be so sad.
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You know, you have to say to them is, hello, you look nice.
How are you? Yes. You doing okay?
Right. Come on. So if everyone practiced kindness once a day...
Come on practice kindness once and
just once you know i mean think about like
and i am absolutely the worst
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offender of i'm trying to do 10 things at once i'm in a hurry i'm juggling like
a clown i sometimes say well you i'll start to send a text i need this you know
by this did you finish this it might be in like morning how about put good morning
on that how about good morning how I do the same. I know. Good morning. You okay?
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Like, can you do this for me? We're still teaching ourselves this kind of thing.
Every day. Yeah. I mean, I talk to Tex a lot, which is really comical.
Apparently, I say wanna and gonna.
Because it never gets want to or going to. I'm like, do I say gonna?
I must say gonna. It's a noise to hell. We got our Pittsburghese.
Right? It is. I think that's what it is.
But like, that's, that's, that, what do I want to do?
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What did I want to do? I loved art. But I also wanted to make,
I wanted to make people feel comfortable.
And I knew that when I was younger, I knew that like I wanted people to have
fun more than be comfortable.
I wanted to create fun. I wanted people to feel really good about themselves.
I get a compliment from one of my friends today that hit me so hard.
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She said, you do a really good job of making people feel included.
Yes, you do. I had no idea that. No.
You really do, Carol. That's my mother. I take negative 10% credit.
Soap dog. That is so nice. You don't leave people out. I won't.
Neither did soap dog. She didn't.
See, I didn't even think about that. That is really rare because at times you'll
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see people talking in groups and stuff, and sometimes you feel like it's a closed off circle.
Yeah. As soon as you walk in the room, and Becca's like this too,
as soon as you walk into Vintage Grace Boutique, their hearts are over there.
Welcome, come on in. You've known them for like 20 years.
And you're just like, oh my gosh, okay, I'm at home. You walk into some other
places and they don't even talk to you until you come up to the counter.
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And it's like, okay, well, I guess I don't really exist. And I've been trying
to be the bigger person where I would go somewhere and I would say to somebody
like, oh, hi, how are you?
Like you said, because you don't know what them going through.
But I think that there's sometimes I've learned also compliment other people. Oh yeah.
There's always something nice about someone. Your hair looks gorgeous.
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You can make somebody's day by saying, hey, I really like your alpha words. You get it.
Or the color looks nice on you. The color looks nice.
I mean, look, the color looks great on me. Black like my soul.
I didn't tell you I used to be in musicals and I did black and white when I
was in my 40s. I should have brought that up at the Women in Leadership. You sing?
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No, I used to. I was a wedding singer. I was a wedding singer.
I did not know that. I can play the spoons.
Did you say luda? Did you say luda for Ludacris? We just went to Ludacris.
I felt old and young at the same time. I felt old because I was probably the
only... But you're getting out there and you're not letting your life now be gone.
No, I'm not. Now, I will tell you, I put work first always.
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Yes. And so that was a lesson. Oh, yeah. Tell the listeners and viewers,
they don't know what you do. Oh, okay. She's a jack of all trades.
Okay, what I do currently is I'm the Director of Advertising and Events for, you ready?
The Observer Reporter, the Herald Standard, the Green County Messenger,
the Almanac, Reimagine Main Street Digital Agency, and we do 20-some events
with our event division.
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Holy crap, did you hear that resume?
That's what I do for work. She acts like she has time to even sit here and talk to me on my podcast.
Listen, I have time because I love you, but also we bought a boutique and I'm
now painting and we're going to kind of launch that soon where it's going to actually be a thing.
We're going to have a, hopefully I have a gallery here if I could paint fast enough.
But in my past, everyone makes fun of me.
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I was so very proud of being in mall management my whole career.
So for 20 years, it was the Washington Crown Center, the gallery of Mount Lebanon and the waterfront.
And I shifted gears and came back to Washington. I moved to Washington County.
I'm not even from here. I was going to say, where are you from?
Everyone thinks I'm from here. I moved here in 1998.
I'm originally from Weirton, West Virginia. oh okay yes so i
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i have mill mentality meaning weird
and steel i mean that was a whole like that was a
whole part of my fabric and i am most proud of
that because there's no mentality like mill mentality like you just you believed
in your town you supported your town you worked hard and that's what you're
doing here well and that's i came to washington it was tough they didn't you
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know who is this girl from west virginia i was at wheeling at the time i've
had i've been on radio I had a talk show.
I did the news. I mean, you heard that. Like, I love the broadcast piece.
I mean, I knew I was supposed to be talking for a living. I probably should
have done TV, but I took the, really, I probably should have been a TV anchor.
I love it. Yes. I love that.
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I went into mall management. It's not to say I won't. You know,
who knows where I'm going to land. The sky's the limit, baby. Exactly.
We can do whatever we want to do. I'm surprised you don't have your own podcast.
Well, because I like supporting my friends who have podcasts. So I'll be your guest.
If you need to fill in while you're on vacation you should do a blog I could
do a blog but I wanted to ask we didn't do what we said I'm in the hot seat now,
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we're running at how many minutes before we 27 I don't want people to get bored
we'll take a commercial break now,
wait Becca could do a commercial.
She's hiding in the back you could easily bring one of my paintings up never
mind I won't make you come up here she said she's not dressed she looks gorgeous
in a sack She always does it. Sack.
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So tell me, what is your favorite part of...
About this podcast. Oh my God. What is your favorite part or parts?
It might be more than one.
I'll tell you what, my favorite part about this podcast is meeting new people. I love that.
Because my heart, not that I thought my heart was closed, I feel like,
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you know, I wasn't branching off. I wasn't meeting new people.
I was kind of just staying in my own little Peter's Township circle of like,
you know, a few friends here and there.
But then you find out when your kids graduate, they weren't really your friends.
But that's another podcast.
But we digress. Yes. We'll talk about clicks at another minute.
Yeah, that's going to be another podcast. Yeah, I'm coming on that too.
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It's called The Mean Girls of Pittsburgh.
Mean girls are still a thing. Go ahead, back to you.
But no, it was a, it was a, and back to you. Back to you, Bob. Hi, I'm Jenny.
Back to you, Jenny. We should have our own show. For sure, we'd be funny.
We would be so funny. We need commercials though. I know someone that can sell advertising. Go ahead.
But no, I mean, I really feel like that if I wouldn't have found this in my
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life, I, you know, you don't know what you got until it's gone or you don't
know, you don't miss something if you don't already have it.
But what I found out with this podcast is that my heart is wide open.
Like I'm ready. Just come on in. Come on in. Like I am ready for you. I'm open for you.
I'm just, I'm here to provide this platform so that if you want to talk about
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something that nobody's talking about, you know, you're upset about something
or you have something that's like, listen, we need to talk about this.
Nobody else is talking about it.
I'm here. I don't talk about politics or religion because I feel like those
are your own views and you just keep them to yourself.
Plus, I don't know a lot about it and I don't keep myself... Leave it that way.
Yeah. And I mean, I thought I was just going to talk about, you know,
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everything and anything with this podcast.
What I'm finding out is I like a more of a variety show. Because if I had a
niche, because a lot of people are like, I just talk about.
You know, ghost stories or murders or, you know, this. I did not want to be
that person because I wanted to make sure that if somebody came up to me and
said, Jen, you know, I'm having a really hard time or, you know,
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something's going on in my life, then I was like, okay, here,
I have this platform for you. Let's talk about it because guess what?
You're not the only one. You feel alone. Right. You know, and I don't want people
to feel alone. I want people to know that you're not alone.
There are so many other people. And this podcast, I made it nationwide.
Wide i went on youtube and just when you know on her own she
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figured it out on her own she figured
it out it was fun but i love that youtube
you can learn anything yeah but you don't you know like you didn't have
to do that like you could have asked i don't
know tens tens of thousands of people that love you
you could have asked them you figured it out on your own and you
do provide a platform for people
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who need to learn about resources and you ask
the questions that need he'd asked and you have you have serious
and gritty and you have fun and
light and that's what's great about it you know and that's you
need that right i was just gonna say you need that in life
i'm telling you i'm i'm like right this i i know we're like we're being off
of each other it's so great and she smells great but so i i so i mean like i'm
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really proud of you for what you're doing and how about your family how proud
are they in the family But how proud are they of you?
Like they surrounded, supported, and cheered her on in her speaking engagement.
But beyond, like what you've done.
I have a big family now with all of these wonderful women, people, guests that I've had.
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I feel like I have so many people that I can turn to.
And that's a nice feeling. Yeah, it is. Pick up the phone.
And you know what makes me sad for people, though? How many people say, I don't have...
As many people around me supporting me, your circle, because I give.
Sometimes you have to think about relationships, regardless if it's,
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you know, a relationship of, you know, male, female, female,
female, whatever it is. It's a commitment.
It's a commitment. And so I want people out there that are hopefully listening
who feel like they don't have anyone.
Like things that are super important to me are suicide prevention.
I mentioned my brother committed suicides, mental health issues.
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Oh, yeah. That's where my you don't know. And I didn't come up with that.
I mean, I read it and, you know, numerous things.
But you really need to think about, yes, there are days where I am angry or
sad or feeling so very sorry for myself. I'm on my own damn nerves.
I hate that. I do, too. And I have to, like, pull myself.
It's like you're climbing a ladder or a rope and you can't get yourself out
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of it or you're swimming and you're drowning.
There are people out there who want to help you, whether you know them or not.
There are so many amazing resources, and social media can be great, and it can be terrible.
People say, oh, social media is a downfall.
Absolutely, if you follow the people that are pulling you down. And it's also up to us.
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How about we post some, how about post positive stuff for a week?
Right. Just positive, not negative garbage.
Right. There's so much out there and so many people and resources like what
you're doing for the people who may be saying, I don't have that network you do, Carol.
And you may not. It took me time to build this network and a lot of work.
So I want people to know that there are many ways and many things for people
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to do if they need help, if they're down, if they need support.
So many organizations, but you started it.
You started it here and what you're trying to accomplish. And I am very proud
of you for all those things.
And I just love how you touch people. I do. I love it. And you travel around
and you're trying to help small business.
And since it's Small Business Month, it's the hardest thing we've ever done.
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I mean, Becca's background, Becca is a jack of all trades. And she's good at
just about everything she does. Seriously.
The only thing she's not good at is basketball. Yeah.
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Is great. I mean, that's fantastic. I still have that award.
Listen, I think, I wonder if they do and they should, but so like,
honestly, like she and I, and this is hers.
I just, my name badge is supposed to say I do what Becca tells me. Cause that's what I do.
This is her forte. She's amazing at this. This is not for the faint of heart. This is hard.
It's scary. It's hard. Right. You know, you, it's the unknown.
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You don't know what's mark. We have to do pop-ups and you have to mix it up,
But we keep trying. We do our best. We fail.
But you guys help other small businesses. You bring in vendors.
Oh, my God. We love that. And you have food trucks and things like that.
To me, you have a DJ here. I mean, you make it so much fun.
Because we want to help. Thank you. We want to help other small businesses.
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We want to support each other.
It's so easy to click a button and order from Amazon. And we all do it. That's fine.
But you can easily shop locally in anything, whether it's a boutique or a restaurant.
Like we try to we try to support all local restaurants but
it also leads me into the competition okay
we don't need to compete we should be working together there's
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enough people right in in most markets that
you can work together support each other stop copying try to collaborate there's
a difference yes not compete let's collaborate stop the competition let's go
and that's forever that's good for everything let's collaborate and let's stop
mean girling and mean-boying, like enough of that. Right.
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Like enough of that. Yeah, it's, you know, it's taken me a while and,
you know, getting out there now. Yeah.
I always say, getting out in the workforce now. Like, I'm the one that's out
at my husband's home doing the laundry and dinner and stuff like that.
I love it. The roles have reversed, baby.
Good, I love it. I'm like, I'll see you later. What laundry detergent does he like? I love it.
No, seriously, like, I love it. But I mean, you know, at the end of the day,
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I would say 80%, no, I'm sorry, 90 to 95% of the people I meet are authentic and real.
And I will occasionally run into some people and I say to myself,
okay, Jen, don't put that negative stuff into your world.
Because like our cup, what is that? Your cup is half empty, half filled, whatever.
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As you can say, you can either say it's half empty or half full. Right.
Think about what you say. i always say my coffee cup
is half oh coffee's not a good example because coffee should be full all of
the time but anyway why are we drinking coffee i don't know it's coffee with
a little bailey's i know we missed the boat anyway anyway we'll do that for
the next one that's the next one yeah we should have a carol and jenny should
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we could no it'll be jenny and carol you get,
jc yeah that's great no but i mean you're right and i know we have to wrap it up but,
But my resounding message doesn't matter if it's small business month,
women in business month, any month, all months.
It's about what you said. You leave the past where it was.
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If you can do that, you learn and grow from it. Try to move forward.
That's hard for me, too. Trust me. My family calls us dwelling D'Angelo's. Think about it.
That's what we kind of are. But I try. Every one of us makes mistakes.
Shakes we're not yeah we're not we're not on this earth
we're still learning i'm learning so many new things every day
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every day i mean and that's what the message i want to leave with people please
try to be kind please it's a very very cruel world we're seeing so many negative
things right now and i don't definitely want to talk politics either but it's just so negative right
now yeah we can choose to engage right
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disengage don't pay attention we have
a choice and do not sell yourself short
oh my gosh my son has a tattoo that says that oh that could be my next one yeah
and it's in latin it's in latin i love it will you send me a picture yeah you
got it national look wait where it starts okay we forgot sorry we're talking
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to you okay let's wrap it up right is that the wrap-up symbol you don't yeah
don't mind us we're talking Talk amongst yourselves.
Go get a drink or something. Talk amongst yourselves. We'll be right back.
Yeah, we can have callers.
Oh, I used to do that. Okay, so my end game, and Carol's going to help me because
she knows it. I'd love it. I want to have my own talk show.
I love it. Where I do, and I want to have people interact in the audience.
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It's not like those ones like on The View where they're talking with each other
and everybody's just sitting there going, hey, yay.
You're right. No, I want to engage with other people.
Because I was going to ask you, and we're going to get off the subject,
what your end game was. is what you want to end up doing. Now I know. I'm helping.
Yeah, I mean, even if I just pop up at somebody's event or somebody's vacation
and just have some people in the audience like, hey, this subject today is,
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we're going to talk about Botox or something. Yeah. And then, you know. I think I need.
How do we look? Help us out here. I already got mine.
It's time for me. Okay. Okay, look what time it is. It's 40 minutes.
So you're in game. What you want to do is have a talk show where we're going to have people.
Today's topic will be Botox. Today's topic will be serious topics, depression.
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Today's topic will be what's your favorite sandwich because sandwich month's
coming up, which you just taught me.
Okay, we're going to have callers or people. We're doing it.
I want to help. We're doing it. I have no time and I want to help.
What do we think? Come on. Let's do it. I mean, okay, before we end this,
though, I have to tell you about Carol, though, because Carol not only –,
does like all the things she does, but she does these events at the Meadows
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Casino. I forgot about that.
Kegs and- Corks and kegs coming up on August 24th and 25th. Yes.
The Greater Pittsburgh Food Truck Festival, all for her, which she will also
be another model for. I just got her to schedule it.
Kids Fest, which is- That's beautiful on you, by the way. Kids Fest,
which is one of the biggest kids events.
We do First Fridays. We do an event in Uniontown called Founding Day.
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We do Farm to Fork in Greene County. if I had the
time I have ideas for 10 more I just told
my team today I said I want to do like an event that
involves this and they all were like they all
wanted to they looked at me like what and it's fun and they said oh okay so
there may be something else coming I love that stuff but I was in advertising
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so I love that stuff so we should just be partnering on all the things yeah
really but but here's why I do these because you're bringing people together in the community
and I want to spotlight the counties that we're working in, the cities that
we're working in, so that we can show, look at the good in the town,
look at the good in the community, look at these wonderful small businesses,
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eat locally, shop locally, right?
That's what I believe in. And how would they get, how would they find this?
Me? Yeah, like how would they find all these events? Where would they get along?
Oh, that's a good question. They can go to our Facebook pages.
They can go to the observerreporter.com. We have all of it on there.
We're about to create well actually we have a be local event
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we changed it all to be local events okay so we have a
be local.net website you can look at or
you can just reach out to me directly and i'll direct you because i love it we'll give
you her cell number no yeah yeah don't worry buzz me up i
can love that how many time facebook's the best way to get me right that's the
easiest way but yeah so be local.net the observer-reporter.com they're everywhere
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we're everywhere i would be in 10 more places if i could because i believe in
our communities and i believe in people. And I believe in you, girl.
I believe in you. Ditto. And I am just so excited that we finally got to do this.
And I'm telling you, time goes so fast with Carol because she's so much fun
and you just want to be around someone like her and Becca.
The team that they have together, they actually, they're so cute together because
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their personalities are different, but- Totally different.
I love it though, because when you see them, when Becca does her Vintage Grace Boutique live events.
It's funny because Carol just shows up in pictures and she's throwing stuff
and Becca's trying... It's really... It is so funny.
Yeah, throwing stuff. I look forward for the next one. So you got to pay attention to that.
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And I just want to say, you know, Becca, Carol, I am so blessed to have these
two women in my life. I feel like they're my sisters.
I feel like that if I needed something...
Then we'd be right there. Right there. And I'm not going to cry.
No, we did it. We made it without crying. We did not cry.
It's because we were being silly. We were going to go down that path and we
didn't. But we feel the same about you.
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And there's nothing you can't do. And you prove that.
And this is all making such a difference. And we are your sister.
And we love you. I love you, too. Let's do it. Let's do the thing.
Let's do the thing. We'll have guests. Okay.
It's your turn to wrap up. I'll shut up. I'm very excited.
I want to thank you again, honey, for being on my podcast. And this was another
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woman in business, inspiring woman in business for the month of July.
And thank you so much to CVS. CVS. CVS.
Wait, CVS. What?
I want to thank you. I want to thank CFS Bank.
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Thank you. I talk too fast. I'm the same.
That Pittsburgh. Maybe you put that into the atmosphere. beer.
We thank CFS Bank, but maybe CVS wants to be a sponsor.
So give us a call. That would be nice.
Thank you for joining me with another episode of Spill With Me,
Jenny D. Thank you. Take care.
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