September 19, 2025 • 29 mins
Charlie Kirk has been assassinated — and the reactions exposed a moral crisis. From YouTubers like Destiny mocking his grieving widow, to teachers openly celebrating his death, to late-night hosts spinning false narratives — the fallout reveals a chilling hypocrisy about free speech, censorship, and political violence.
This episode breaks it all down:
What free speech really means vs. what it does not protect.
How “dangerous rhetoric” creates a culture where violence gets excused.
Media gaslighting — from ABC’s Matt Gutman to Jimmy Kimmel — and the lies designed to protect the narrative.
Social media mobs, double standards, and the dehumanization that fuels violence.
Why Charlie’s own words prove the labels against him were false.
Free speech has consequences. Dangerous rhetoric has victims. And Charlie Kirk’s assassination should force us to confront the difference.
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Bragging about Charlie's death now they're losing their jobs
left and right. Good.
Because if your idea of education is teaching kids that
murder is funny when it happens to the wrong side, you shouldn't
be within a mile, 20 miles of a classroom.
If I ever find out any of my children's teachers do anything
like that. Accountability for this isn't
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censorship, it's consequences. And of course, the social media
mob threads and posts saying oops, Charlie, love the Second
Amendment, look what happened. Are you fucking stupid?
All right, hey everyone, hope you're all well.
I have to talk about Charlie again.
Now it's reaction time. Charlie Kirk is dead,
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assassinated, and the reactions from his opposition side include
celebration from teachers, influencers, Youtubers mocking
his widow, posting memes, cheering like their team just
won the Super Bowl. One of them is called Destiny
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and I admit I haven't heard of this asshole and apparently he's
some big bro online and he mocked Charlie's wife for
grieving. That is the level of moral rot
that we've reached. This is not about politics right
now. It's about humanity.
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Here's the kicker. They defend it all under this
faux banner of free speech, as if dancing on a man's grave is
the entire point of the 1st Amendment.
Meanwhile, these are the same people who are now crying about
being silenced when their own words get them fired, when their
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reputations go up in flames, when they finally taste
consequences of the garbage thatthey spew.
Yes, I'm angry, I'm saddened. I'm confused by what humanity
has become in moments like these.
Here's the truth. Sometimes tragedy is the very
thing that forces us to be better.
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It's a horrid truth, but it's how we heal.
It's how we grow alone and together.
And that's where my frustration,it takes me.
It not to incite. I'm not trying to to get back at
people. And it's not to tear down.
It's demand something better. I've already edited a lot of
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name calling out of this episodein my script for this episode.
I want to be better than that. And if Charlie's death doesn't
drive that home, then I don't know what will.
This is Stay in the Fray podcast.
It is September 17th. Excuse me, 2025.
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Let's roll. I want to get something
straight. Free speech means you can speak
your mind with the government locking you up for it.
It doesn't mean you get to celebrate assassination and then
keep your job at the local grocery shop.
This is where our youth are getting this The First Amendment
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protects peaceful opinions, and debate does not protect threats,
incitement, or dangerous rhetoric that leads to violence.
And that's where this little like gotcha moment that Charlie
that the people laughing are trying to do, this is where it
falls apart. Their whole line now is, well,
Charlie wanted free speech, so we're doing just what he said.
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No, that's not free speech. That's moral cowardice hiding
behind the 1st amendment, the truth.
Free speech is not void of consequence.
You post a TikTok celebrating a man being murdered and your
employer has every right to fireyour ass.
You're a teacher telling kids that violence against political
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opponents is justified. You shouldn't be in a classroom,
period. But the hypocrisy is blinding
during cancel culture. Thank God it's going.
The woke left was fine with people losing jobs over the
smallest fabricated offenses. Someone tweets an off color joke
from 10 years ago and suddenly they're cancelled.
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But when it's celebrating an assassination and suddenly
they're all defenders of free expression?
Give me a fucking break. This is not OK.
Free speech is supposed to be about discussion, debate,
exchanging ideas. That's what Charlie stood for.
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Dangerous rhetoric is the opposite.
It dehumanizes, it justifies violence, and it creates the
culture where a man loses his life because of his beliefs.
If he can't tell the difference between those two, you're either
dishonest or you're that far gone.
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Let's talk about what happened, which is sparked this episode,
what's happened after Charlie's death, Because the reactions
tell you everything we need to know about the problems in this
country and the world. First off, you have this Destiny
douchebag, all right? That was the last name call.
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I swear, he's a smug YouTube whothinks debating college freshman
on Discord makes him Socrates. And he's mocking Charlie's wife
on Piers Morgan's show. Take a look.
Why did you mock his winner? Why did you mock his winner?
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She's because she's being used as a political weapon right now
for conservatives to continue they're fact.
What do you mean? Wow?
She's literally doing her. Husband just got murdered.
On e-mail, Yeah, she's using it to drive a recruitment.
And you? Can't even condemn the murder.
You won't condemn it. You can't even tell his side.
You're so deranged about Trump, you are, that you cannot condemn
the murder because you're waiting for Donald Trump to say
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something. All.
Right, let me bring it. This guy, I've never seen
anything like this. I'm happy I haven't heard of him
until now. I'm sorry that I have.
Charlie's wife is grieving her murdered husband and his trash
take is that she's weaponizing that grief.
No, she's not. She's mourning by sharing
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Charlie's words with the millions who loved him.
Her 17 minute speech was not exploitation, It was a widow
honoring her husband's mission. If you see that as a threat,
that says more about you than itis about her.
The fact that a grown man with aplatform thinks that the right,
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that the right move is to laugh at a widow.
That's not edgy free speech, dude, that's being a piece of
shit. Anything for clicks, I suppose.
Here's the bigger issue. This kind of stuff, this stuff
from this guy, people like this.This is what some people are
listening to. This is who some are taking
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seriously. He sits up there all fired up
with Piers Morgan saying that his opposition of the right
needs to turn down the heat. Really tell me what the right
has done in actual political violence compared to the left.
Riots from the left, Arson and Tifa, assaults on conservatives
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wearing hat, churches vandalize,pro-life centers firebombed.
The record speaks for itself. I can't believe I have to
continue to to bring the receipts here.
Meanwhile, he refuses to condemna man's assassination.
He dodges, he deflects, and he points fingers at the very
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people who aren't the ones out committing violence.
That's not just misinformation, that's false blame.
That's protecting your team at all costs, even when it means
excusing murder. And if that's your moral
compass, how the hell anyone aligns with you, I have no idea.
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It didn't stop there. I was just giving him as an
example. Teachers, The people we trust to
shape our kids. We're posting celebration clips
bragging about Charlie's death. Now they're losing their jobs
left and right. Good.
Because if your idea of education is teaching kids that
murder is funny when it happens to the wrong side, you shouldn't
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be within a mile, 20 miles of a classroom if I ever find out any
of my children's teachers do anything like that.
Accountability for this isn't censorship, it's consequences.
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And of course the social media mob threads and posts saying
oops Charlie love the Second Amendment, look what happened.
Are you fucking stupid? The Second Amendment exists so
people can't protect themselves.What happened to Charlie was the
exact opposite. A man who preached self-defense,
family, faith, mental health responsibility was gunned down
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by someone radicalized by lies. And instead of condemning it,
the mob mocks it. It's not a win, it's cowardice.
Let's deal with the labels. I'm going to give you some more
receipts. A lot of people cheering this on
haven't even heard Charlie Kirk speak.
They just go with it. So check this out.
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The shooter and the idiots on social media called Charlie a
fascist, racist, sexist, trans. All the words the receipts say.
Otherwise, roll the tape you. You just.
If they are, openly if they are.Supporting open homosexuality.
So I'm going to ask a very respectful question as
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respectfully as I can. What does what they do in their
private life concern you so muchthat you have to go up in front
of a crowd? And it is against God.
That is, are you a? Christian or not?
Do we live in a theocracy, Yes or no?
No, that's Do we live in a theocracy.
Said you're a Christian. I am a Christian and do you know
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what? And guess what?
I I will say this part of being a Christian is appropriately
interpreting what the theological says for the
individual, but also means to belong-suffering and patient and
loving and kind. Jesus Christ talk to all people.
Jesus Christ went and did his ministry through Judea and
Samaria and he had dinner with tax collectors and he had dinner
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with prostitutes and he did his ministry in every part of the
Mediterranean. What it means to be a Christian,
my friend, is to be open minded but firm in your beliefs so you
can have that belief. But if you say there's something
inherently wrong with communicating or associating
just because they make differentpersonal decisions than you,
then you Sir, are not a conservative.
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Thanks for being here tonight. There it is.
Charlie's defending gay people, amongst others, to a right
winger who said that Charlie wasn't Christian enough.
Yeah, that sounds like Charlie totally hates gay people.
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Here's another one. How about this?
Let's roll some more. You will never be the best
version of yourself if you allowother people to convince you
that you can't be better becauseof your skin color, because of
your sexual identity, because ofthe community you came from.
You must resist those narrativesat all costs if you truly want
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to be successful in America. Did you hear all that?
You misinformed lunatics in the back.
Charlie's saying every person he's made the image of God, he's
always said that and should value themselves regardless of
anything. Those are words of a unifier,
not a bigot. Have you taken the time to
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listen? So I'll ask you this.
If the man is on record saying these things, where do these
labels come from? Well, they come from the media.
They come from politicians, frominfluencers like Destiny who
spent years painting him as a monster.
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And when you dehumanize someone long enough, you make it easier
for a weak mind to do what happened here to Charlie.
Show me where Charlie was. Any of these horrible things
that you call him, you can't do it.
It doesn't exist. If he disagreed with you on
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trans life, there's some mental illness.
That's his opinion. Doesn't mean he doesn't care
about the trans community. He just disagrees.
Sports and all of those things. There's a difference.
Let's talk about the cesspool where all this garbage festers
social media and it's not the platforms themself, it's the
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people on them. You know the type behind some
anime avatar or profile picture of a fucking dog.
No name, no face. It's all day long spewing hate,
trolling, cheering on death likeit's a sport.
These people are weak. They're indoctrinated.
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They're the ones who think actual violence is acceptable
because they've been conditionedto believe that debate is
pointless. Instead of making an argument,
they vomit the most vile things they can think of and they hit
post. And I'll be honest with you,
I've talked about it briefly. I've fallen into it myself.
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I've taken the bait before. Rage typing back and forth with
nobodies give the time of day with in real life.
And I didn't like who I became. That's what this environment
does. It drags you down.
It makes you someone you don't even recognize.
And I still have to work hard not to fall into that trap.
And I have to be on social mediato do this.
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Meanwhile, those same people toss around words they don't
understand. Fascism, racism, even Nazis,
they use them for everything. I already debunked the racist
claim earlier in one of the video clips.
I debunked the notion that Charlie doesn't like gay people.
I've got the receipts. Charlie defended gay people
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against far right critics. He defended them from his own.
He said every person of every skin color is made in God's
image. That's not hate, that's unity.
Here's the irony. No one wants the left.
No one on the left wants to admit Charlie Kirk never once
called for violence. Ever.
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I've got the clips. Go look for yourself.
You won't find it. Meanwhile, the rhetoric aimed at
him, It was dehumanizing and therhetoric ended with him losing
his life. That is the true meaning of
fascism. By the way, for all of you who
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love to spew words, you don't even know what the meaning of
silencing someone with violence because you don't like what they
believe. That is fascism.
And now social media allows people to celebrate it.
Tell me how this isn't going to breed more of the same.
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This episode initially wasn't going to be mostly about Charlie
Kerr. I already did an episode.
Go back and check it out. But everything that needs to be
said about free speech applied to this tragedy.
So it's not just about Charlie. It's about what happens when a
country pretends that political violence only counts when it
fits the narrative. Here's something to think about.
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I watched Politicians kneel at George Floyd's funeral crying.
This was a career criminal. He died of resisting arrest,
fatal amounts of drugs in his system.
And whether or not you agree or disagree with methodology of
police force, which is somethingto talk about, they still did
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this. They mourn a criminal.
They wore kente clothes. They bowed their heads, turned
it into a national moment. They're all over the end zones
in the NFL, all over the basketball court, everywhere.
And you know, when Charlie Kirk is assassinated, a man who never
heard, a family who preached faith and family and unity.
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Silence. Where's AOC?
Where's Pelosi? Where's Tim Walz?
I haven't heard anything from any of these people.
I'll tell you where they are. They're fucking hiding.
Because condemning Charlie's death would mean admitting the
rhetoric on their side. Lift the fuse and let's talk
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about the polarization here. Every time violence is excused,
the divide grows wider. Every time they mock A grieving
widow, people harden. They get angrier, less willing
to talk, less willing to care, more willing to walk away from
institutions altogether. That isn't healing this country.
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That's collapse. Look at the pattern again.
Antifa riots, looting churches, vandalized pro-life centers,
firebomb properties, property defaced, all the Teslas that
were being keyed. That's a track record.
Tell me what the other side is doing on that same scale.
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Seriously, tell me, give me an example where this is a
bipartisan concern. The right has flaws.
Look, nobody's pretending it doesn't.
I'm not a far right apologist. But political violence like
this, it's not coming from conservatives.
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That's undeniable. People are fleeing the left
aligning with the modern liberalism and the woke is they
see it. But there are still far too many
who are OK with political violence in 2025.
The ones who claim to be fighting for freedom and against
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fascism while acting like fascist themselves.
They need to look in the mirror.You don't have to like what
someone says, but why can't we just agree on basic humanity
civility? So how do we fix this?
Because you can't just shrug andsay politics.
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No, a man was assassinated and the reactions exposed a
concerning truth. There's no middle ground.
First, the leaders need to call it what it is, political
violence. Not an unfortunate rhetoric or
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heightened tensions. Violence.
Condemn it, period. And not just when it's
convenient for your party. If you can condemn January the
6th, which is the only example of the right acting out, and
even that we'll get into that, you better damn well condemn the
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murder of Charlie Kirk. Otherwise you're a hypocrite.
Second, accountability. Teachers posting celebration
clips? Gone.
You're out. Influencers glorifying
assassination? If they're big enough to have
any sponsors, that should drop them.
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Horrible celebrities. And then you got the media
circus. Let's start with AB CS Matt
Gutman, Roll this. An alleged murder with such
specific text messages about thealleged murder weapon, where it
was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it.
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But also it was very touching ina way that I think many of us
didn't expect. A very intimate portrait into
this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the
suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate
who who was transitioning, calling him my love and I want
to protect you, my love. So it was this duality of
someone who the attorney said not only jeopardized the life of
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Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of
children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of
this case. And on the other hand, he was,
you know, speaking so lovingly about his partner.
So a very interesting and as Pierre said, riveting press.
Oh hold on, I need another sip of Scotch.
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Touching. Are you fucking kidding me dude?
Two people talking about an assassination, texting about how
it went down and ABC and this guy spends it like it's some
Nicholas Sparks movie. Care if those messages read like
the most heartwarming ROM com script in history?
The main character murdered a man in cold blood.
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There's nothing touching about it.
It's disgusting and this is exactly the problem.
The media sanitizes the evil when it fits a narrative.
Sticking with ABC, here's our friend Jimmy Kimmel, who by the
way, I won't get into it now, but I just found out before this
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recording that he has been cancelled and silenced.
ABC and Disney have removed him from the air indefinitely.
Stay tuned for that. This is what happened.
Literal lies. Literal misinformation.
Go ahead, guys. We hit some new lows over the
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weekend, with the Maggot gang desperately trying to
characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as
anything other than one of them,and what everything they can to
score political points from it. Here we go.
There's a problem. Kimmel, late night clown who
hasn't been funny since the man show, which is the only reason
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he's famous. He gets on TV and lies through
his teeth. He says the shooter was MAGA.
No evidence, no receipts. He just tossed it out there
because it feeds the narrative that his audience wants to hear
100 of them and people believe it.
Here is the truth. The shooter was anti MAGA, He
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was in a relationship with a trans man, he had a radical
college ties. He was literally writing garbage
on bullet casings. And now still if you pay
attention to what he's saying during interrogation, he's not
screaming. Make America Great Again.
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He's paired in the exact same far left talking points we see
plastered all over social media and from people like Jimmy
Kimmel. The dehumanizing garbage that
turns disagreement into justification for violence.
That is the danger people like Kimmel spin the lies.
They don't just get it wrong. They don't just come back and
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apologize. They give cover to the violence.
They create false hate because if you convince the public that
a guy like Charlie Kirk was killed by one of his own, then
suddenly it's not the left's rhetoric to blame him anymore,
but suddenly it's an easy punchline instead of A
reckoning. And that's what they want, to
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protect the narrative, even if it means lying about a man's
death. Finally, the public.
We got off topic ways to fix this.
The public US. Stop letting the media gaslight
us into thinking this is normal.It's not.
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Stop letting politicians redefine vocabulary words and
labels to dodge accountability. Say no.
Don't let your kids be taught bypeople who laugh at death.
People have got to bring back humanity.
It makes me want to lock down insome sort of apocalyptic bunker
until it all passes, and that's not good.
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That will do nothing. Charlie Kirk never called for
violence. Never.
He called for faith, whether youwant to have that or not.
He called for family. He called for mental health
resources, for building better communities, for the Second
Amendment as a safeguard to protect people, not to destroy
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them. Those were his words.
That was his mission. You do not have to agree with
any of it, but just move on. Live your life or debate him,
talk to him, talk to people likehim.
People want you to believe that he was a monster.
Again, all the terms, well, we went over embraces, sexist,
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fascist, all that. But the receipts say otherwise.
Please go listen. Yet his killer called him a
fascist, which is the irony. Fascism isn't a man speaking
ideas you don't like. True fascism is silencing that
man with death. And when the mob cheers that
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silence, when teachers, influencers and celebrities
celebrate it, what you're watching is the collapse of
morality dressed up as some sortof justice.
Think about his widow, Erica. His kids.
Erica is a woman who just lost her husband and who stood up for
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17 minutes and shared his words with millions who loved him.
That's not weaponizing grief. That's courage.
That's strength. That's a reminder that even in
Charlie's death, his mission is bigger than anybody who opposes
it with violence. So here's where I leave it.
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Free speech is not the enemy. Dangerous rhetoric is, and the
dangerous rhetoric, it's coming from the same people who scream
about tolerance while laughing at a man's murder.
If we let that stand, if we don't call it out for what it
is, it will continue. And I dread a country that can
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get any darker than it already is.
At the end of the day, Charlie'smurder should be a wake up call,
not a rallying cry for more hate.
Not what I'm doing. We all don't have to agree on on
issues on anything, but we do have to agree that killing
someone over their beliefs is not OK.
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If we want this country to survive and thrive, we have to
start talking again. Real conversations, honest
debates, not mockery and mobs. Because free speech only means
something if it leads to dialogue, not violence.
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I don't have anything else left for today.
Just sick over all of it. The things that I've seen.
I didn't always agree with Charlie, but I understood his
purpose. I understood his conviction, his
his mission and I respected him for it.
I I would have done anything to sit down with him and have a
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conversation. Just go check them out, go
listen, go learn, and let's be better to each other.
Love you guys.
Bragging about Charlie's death now they're losing their jobs
left and right. Good.
Because if your idea of education is teaching kids that
murder is funny when it happens to the wrong side, you shouldn't
be within a mile, 20 miles of a classroom.
If I ever find out any of my children's teachers do anything
like that. Accountability for this isn't
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censorship, it's consequences. And of course, the social media
mob threads and posts saying oops, Charlie, love the Second
Amendment, look what happened. Are you fucking stupid?
All right, hey everyone, hope you're all well.
I have to talk about Charlie again.
Now it's reaction time. Charlie Kirk is dead,
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assassinated, and the reactions from his opposition side include
celebration from teachers, influencers, Youtubers mocking
his widow, posting memes, cheering like their team just
won the Super Bowl. One of them is called Destiny
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and I admit I haven't heard of this asshole and apparently he's
some big bro online and he mocked Charlie's wife for
grieving. That is the level of moral rot
that we've reached. This is not about politics right
now. It's about humanity.
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Here's the kicker. They defend it all under this
faux banner of free speech, as if dancing on a man's grave is
the entire point of the 1st Amendment.
Meanwhile, these are the same people who are now crying about
being silenced when their own words get them fired, when their
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reputations go up in flames, when they finally taste
consequences of the garbage thatthey spew.
Yes, I'm angry, I'm saddened. I'm confused by what humanity
has become in moments like these.
Here's the truth. Sometimes tragedy is the very
thing that forces us to be better.
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It's a horrid truth, but it's how we heal.
It's how we grow alone and together.
And that's where my frustration,it takes me.
It not to incite. I'm not trying to to get back at
people. And it's not to tear down.
It's demand something better. I've already edited a lot of
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name calling out of this episodein my script for this episode.
I want to be better than that. And if Charlie's death doesn't
drive that home, then I don't know what will.
This is Stay in the Fray podcast.
It is September 17th. Excuse me, 2025.
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Let's roll. I want to get something
straight. Free speech means you can speak
your mind with the government locking you up for it.
It doesn't mean you get to celebrate assassination and then
keep your job at the local grocery shop.
This is where our youth are getting this The First Amendment
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protects peaceful opinions, and debate does not protect threats,
incitement, or dangerous rhetoric that leads to violence.
And that's where this little like gotcha moment that Charlie
that the people laughing are trying to do, this is where it
falls apart. Their whole line now is, well,
Charlie wanted free speech, so we're doing just what he said.
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No, that's not free speech. That's moral cowardice hiding
behind the 1st amendment, the truth.
Free speech is not void of consequence.
You post a TikTok celebrating a man being murdered and your
employer has every right to fireyour ass.
You're a teacher telling kids that violence against political
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opponents is justified. You shouldn't be in a classroom,
period. But the hypocrisy is blinding
during cancel culture. Thank God it's going.
The woke left was fine with people losing jobs over the
smallest fabricated offenses. Someone tweets an off color joke
from 10 years ago and suddenly they're cancelled.
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But when it's celebrating an assassination and suddenly
they're all defenders of free expression?
Give me a fucking break. This is not OK.
Free speech is supposed to be about discussion, debate,
exchanging ideas. That's what Charlie stood for.
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Dangerous rhetoric is the opposite.
It dehumanizes, it justifies violence, and it creates the
culture where a man loses his life because of his beliefs.
If he can't tell the difference between those two, you're either
dishonest or you're that far gone.
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Let's talk about what happened, which is sparked this episode,
what's happened after Charlie's death, Because the reactions
tell you everything we need to know about the problems in this
country and the world. First off, you have this Destiny
douchebag, all right? That was the last name call.
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I swear, he's a smug YouTube whothinks debating college freshman
on Discord makes him Socrates. And he's mocking Charlie's wife
on Piers Morgan's show. Take a look.
Why did you mock his winner? Why did you mock his winner?
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She's because she's being used as a political weapon right now
for conservatives to continue they're fact.
What do you mean? Wow?
She's literally doing her. Husband just got murdered.
On e-mail, Yeah, she's using it to drive a recruitment.
And you? Can't even condemn the murder.
You won't condemn it. You can't even tell his side.
You're so deranged about Trump, you are, that you cannot condemn
the murder because you're waiting for Donald Trump to say
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something. All.
Right, let me bring it. This guy, I've never seen
anything like this. I'm happy I haven't heard of him
until now. I'm sorry that I have.
Charlie's wife is grieving her murdered husband and his trash
take is that she's weaponizing that grief.
No, she's not. She's mourning by sharing
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Charlie's words with the millions who loved him.
Her 17 minute speech was not exploitation, It was a widow
honoring her husband's mission. If you see that as a threat,
that says more about you than itis about her.
The fact that a grown man with aplatform thinks that the right,
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that the right move is to laugh at a widow.
That's not edgy free speech, dude, that's being a piece of
shit. Anything for clicks, I suppose.
Here's the bigger issue. This kind of stuff, this stuff
from this guy, people like this.This is what some people are
listening to. This is who some are taking
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seriously. He sits up there all fired up
with Piers Morgan saying that his opposition of the right
needs to turn down the heat. Really tell me what the right
has done in actual political violence compared to the left.
Riots from the left, Arson and Tifa, assaults on conservatives
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wearing hat, churches vandalize,pro-life centers firebombed.
The record speaks for itself. I can't believe I have to
continue to to bring the receipts here.
Meanwhile, he refuses to condemna man's assassination.
He dodges, he deflects, and he points fingers at the very
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people who aren't the ones out committing violence.
That's not just misinformation, that's false blame.
That's protecting your team at all costs, even when it means
excusing murder. And if that's your moral
compass, how the hell anyone aligns with you, I have no idea.
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It didn't stop there. I was just giving him as an
example. Teachers, The people we trust to
shape our kids. We're posting celebration clips
bragging about Charlie's death. Now they're losing their jobs
left and right. Good.
Because if your idea of education is teaching kids that
murder is funny when it happens to the wrong side, you shouldn't
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be within a mile, 20 miles of a classroom if I ever find out any
of my children's teachers do anything like that.
Accountability for this isn't censorship, it's consequences.
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And of course the social media mob threads and posts saying
oops Charlie love the Second Amendment, look what happened.
Are you fucking stupid? The Second Amendment exists so
people can't protect themselves.What happened to Charlie was the
exact opposite. A man who preached self-defense,
family, faith, mental health responsibility was gunned down
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by someone radicalized by lies. And instead of condemning it,
the mob mocks it. It's not a win, it's cowardice.
Let's deal with the labels. I'm going to give you some more
receipts. A lot of people cheering this on
haven't even heard Charlie Kirk speak.
They just go with it. So check this out.
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The shooter and the idiots on social media called Charlie a
fascist, racist, sexist, trans. All the words the receipts say.
Otherwise, roll the tape you. You just.
If they are, openly if they are.Supporting open homosexuality.
So I'm going to ask a very respectful question as
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respectfully as I can. What does what they do in their
private life concern you so muchthat you have to go up in front
of a crowd? And it is against God.
That is, are you a? Christian or not?
Do we live in a theocracy, Yes or no?
No, that's Do we live in a theocracy.
Said you're a Christian. I am a Christian and do you know
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what? And guess what?
I I will say this part of being a Christian is appropriately
interpreting what the theological says for the
individual, but also means to belong-suffering and patient and
loving and kind. Jesus Christ talk to all people.
Jesus Christ went and did his ministry through Judea and
Samaria and he had dinner with tax collectors and he had dinner
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with prostitutes and he did his ministry in every part of the
Mediterranean. What it means to be a Christian,
my friend, is to be open minded but firm in your beliefs so you
can have that belief. But if you say there's something
inherently wrong with communicating or associating
just because they make differentpersonal decisions than you,
then you Sir, are not a conservative.
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Thanks for being here tonight. There it is.
Charlie's defending gay people, amongst others, to a right
winger who said that Charlie wasn't Christian enough.
Yeah, that sounds like Charlie totally hates gay people.
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Here's another one. How about this?
Let's roll some more. You will never be the best
version of yourself if you allowother people to convince you
that you can't be better becauseof your skin color, because of
your sexual identity, because ofthe community you came from.
You must resist those narrativesat all costs if you truly want
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to be successful in America. Did you hear all that?
You misinformed lunatics in the back.
Charlie's saying every person he's made the image of God, he's
always said that and should value themselves regardless of
anything. Those are words of a unifier,
not a bigot. Have you taken the time to
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listen? So I'll ask you this.
If the man is on record saying these things, where do these
labels come from? Well, they come from the media.
They come from politicians, frominfluencers like Destiny who
spent years painting him as a monster.
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And when you dehumanize someone long enough, you make it easier
for a weak mind to do what happened here to Charlie.
Show me where Charlie was. Any of these horrible things
that you call him, you can't do it.
It doesn't exist. If he disagreed with you on
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trans life, there's some mental illness.
That's his opinion. Doesn't mean he doesn't care
about the trans community. He just disagrees.
Sports and all of those things. There's a difference.
Let's talk about the cesspool where all this garbage festers
social media and it's not the platforms themself, it's the
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people on them. You know the type behind some
anime avatar or profile picture of a fucking dog.
No name, no face. It's all day long spewing hate,
trolling, cheering on death likeit's a sport.
These people are weak. They're indoctrinated.
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They're the ones who think actual violence is acceptable
because they've been conditionedto believe that debate is
pointless. Instead of making an argument,
they vomit the most vile things they can think of and they hit
post. And I'll be honest with you,
I've talked about it briefly. I've fallen into it myself.
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I've taken the bait before. Rage typing back and forth with
nobodies give the time of day with in real life.
And I didn't like who I became. That's what this environment
does. It drags you down.
It makes you someone you don't even recognize.
And I still have to work hard not to fall into that trap.
And I have to be on social mediato do this.
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Meanwhile, those same people toss around words they don't
understand. Fascism, racism, even Nazis,
they use them for everything. I already debunked the racist
claim earlier in one of the video clips.
I debunked the notion that Charlie doesn't like gay people.
I've got the receipts. Charlie defended gay people
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against far right critics. He defended them from his own.
He said every person of every skin color is made in God's
image. That's not hate, that's unity.
Here's the irony. No one wants the left.
No one on the left wants to admit Charlie Kirk never once
called for violence. Ever.
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I've got the clips. Go look for yourself.
You won't find it. Meanwhile, the rhetoric aimed at
him, It was dehumanizing and therhetoric ended with him losing
his life. That is the true meaning of
fascism. By the way, for all of you who
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love to spew words, you don't even know what the meaning of
silencing someone with violence because you don't like what they
believe. That is fascism.
And now social media allows people to celebrate it.
Tell me how this isn't going to breed more of the same.
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This episode initially wasn't going to be mostly about Charlie
Kerr. I already did an episode.
Go back and check it out. But everything that needs to be
said about free speech applied to this tragedy.
So it's not just about Charlie. It's about what happens when a
country pretends that political violence only counts when it
fits the narrative. Here's something to think about.
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I watched Politicians kneel at George Floyd's funeral crying.
This was a career criminal. He died of resisting arrest,
fatal amounts of drugs in his system.
And whether or not you agree or disagree with methodology of
police force, which is somethingto talk about, they still did
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this. They mourn a criminal.
They wore kente clothes. They bowed their heads, turned
it into a national moment. They're all over the end zones
in the NFL, all over the basketball court, everywhere.
And you know, when Charlie Kirk is assassinated, a man who never
heard, a family who preached faith and family and unity.
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Silence. Where's AOC?
Where's Pelosi? Where's Tim Walz?
I haven't heard anything from any of these people.
I'll tell you where they are. They're fucking hiding.
Because condemning Charlie's death would mean admitting the
rhetoric on their side. Lift the fuse and let's talk
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about the polarization here. Every time violence is excused,
the divide grows wider. Every time they mock A grieving
widow, people harden. They get angrier, less willing
to talk, less willing to care, more willing to walk away from
institutions altogether. That isn't healing this country.
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That's collapse. Look at the pattern again.
Antifa riots, looting churches, vandalized pro-life centers,
firebomb properties, property defaced, all the Teslas that
were being keyed. That's a track record.
Tell me what the other side is doing on that same scale.
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Seriously, tell me, give me an example where this is a
bipartisan concern. The right has flaws.
Look, nobody's pretending it doesn't.
I'm not a far right apologist. But political violence like
this, it's not coming from conservatives.
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That's undeniable. People are fleeing the left
aligning with the modern liberalism and the woke is they
see it. But there are still far too many
who are OK with political violence in 2025.
The ones who claim to be fighting for freedom and against
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fascism while acting like fascist themselves.
They need to look in the mirror.You don't have to like what
someone says, but why can't we just agree on basic humanity
civility? So how do we fix this?
Because you can't just shrug andsay politics.
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No, a man was assassinated and the reactions exposed a
concerning truth. There's no middle ground.
First, the leaders need to call it what it is, political
violence. Not an unfortunate rhetoric or
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heightened tensions. Violence.
Condemn it, period. And not just when it's
convenient for your party. If you can condemn January the
6th, which is the only example of the right acting out, and
even that we'll get into that, you better damn well condemn the
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murder of Charlie Kirk. Otherwise you're a hypocrite.
Second, accountability. Teachers posting celebration
clips? Gone.
You're out. Influencers glorifying
assassination? If they're big enough to have
any sponsors, that should drop them.
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Horrible celebrities. And then you got the media
circus. Let's start with AB CS Matt
Gutman, Roll this. An alleged murder with such
specific text messages about thealleged murder weapon, where it
was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it.
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But also it was very touching ina way that I think many of us
didn't expect. A very intimate portrait into
this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the
suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate
who who was transitioning, calling him my love and I want
to protect you, my love. So it was this duality of
someone who the attorney said not only jeopardized the life of
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Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of
children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of
this case. And on the other hand, he was,
you know, speaking so lovingly about his partner.
So a very interesting and as Pierre said, riveting press.
Oh hold on, I need another sip of Scotch.
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Touching. Are you fucking kidding me dude?
Two people talking about an assassination, texting about how
it went down and ABC and this guy spends it like it's some
Nicholas Sparks movie. Care if those messages read like
the most heartwarming ROM com script in history?
The main character murdered a man in cold blood.
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There's nothing touching about it.
It's disgusting and this is exactly the problem.
The media sanitizes the evil when it fits a narrative.
Sticking with ABC, here's our friend Jimmy Kimmel, who by the
way, I won't get into it now, but I just found out before this
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recording that he has been cancelled and silenced.
ABC and Disney have removed him from the air indefinitely.
Stay tuned for that. This is what happened.
Literal lies. Literal misinformation.
Go ahead, guys. We hit some new lows over the
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weekend, with the Maggot gang desperately trying to
characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as
anything other than one of them,and what everything they can to
score political points from it. Here we go.
There's a problem. Kimmel, late night clown who
hasn't been funny since the man show, which is the only reason
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he's famous. He gets on TV and lies through
his teeth. He says the shooter was MAGA.
No evidence, no receipts. He just tossed it out there
because it feeds the narrative that his audience wants to hear
100 of them and people believe it.
Here is the truth. The shooter was anti MAGA, He
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was in a relationship with a trans man, he had a radical
college ties. He was literally writing garbage
on bullet casings. And now still if you pay
attention to what he's saying during interrogation, he's not
screaming. Make America Great Again.
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He's paired in the exact same far left talking points we see
plastered all over social media and from people like Jimmy
Kimmel. The dehumanizing garbage that
turns disagreement into justification for violence.
That is the danger people like Kimmel spin the lies.
They don't just get it wrong. They don't just come back and
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apologize. They give cover to the violence.
They create false hate because if you convince the public that
a guy like Charlie Kirk was killed by one of his own, then
suddenly it's not the left's rhetoric to blame him anymore,
but suddenly it's an easy punchline instead of A
reckoning. And that's what they want, to
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protect the narrative, even if it means lying about a man's
death. Finally, the public.
We got off topic ways to fix this.
The public US. Stop letting the media gaslight
us into thinking this is normal.It's not.
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Stop letting politicians redefine vocabulary words and
labels to dodge accountability. Say no.
Don't let your kids be taught bypeople who laugh at death.
People have got to bring back humanity.
It makes me want to lock down insome sort of apocalyptic bunker
until it all passes, and that's not good.
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That will do nothing. Charlie Kirk never called for
violence. Never.
He called for faith, whether youwant to have that or not.
He called for family. He called for mental health
resources, for building better communities, for the Second
Amendment as a safeguard to protect people, not to destroy
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them. Those were his words.
That was his mission. You do not have to agree with
any of it, but just move on. Live your life or debate him,
talk to him, talk to people likehim.
People want you to believe that he was a monster.
Again, all the terms, well, we went over embraces, sexist,
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fascist, all that. But the receipts say otherwise.
Please go listen. Yet his killer called him a
fascist, which is the irony. Fascism isn't a man speaking
ideas you don't like. True fascism is silencing that
man with death. And when the mob cheers that
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silence, when teachers, influencers and celebrities
celebrate it, what you're watching is the collapse of
morality dressed up as some sortof justice.
Think about his widow, Erica. His kids.
Erica is a woman who just lost her husband and who stood up for
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17 minutes and shared his words with millions who loved him.
That's not weaponizing grief. That's courage.
That's strength. That's a reminder that even in
Charlie's death, his mission is bigger than anybody who opposes
it with violence. So here's where I leave it.
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Free speech is not the enemy. Dangerous rhetoric is, and the
dangerous rhetoric, it's coming from the same people who scream
about tolerance while laughing at a man's murder.
If we let that stand, if we don't call it out for what it
is, it will continue. And I dread a country that can
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get any darker than it already is.
At the end of the day, Charlie'smurder should be a wake up call,
not a rallying cry for more hate.
Not what I'm doing. We all don't have to agree on on
issues on anything, but we do have to agree that killing
someone over their beliefs is not OK.
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If we want this country to survive and thrive, we have to
start talking again. Real conversations, honest
debates, not mockery and mobs. Because free speech only means
something if it leads to dialogue, not violence.
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I don't have anything else left for today.
Just sick over all of it. The things that I've seen.
I didn't always agree with Charlie, but I understood his
purpose. I understood his conviction, his
his mission and I respected him for it.
I I would have done anything to sit down with him and have a
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conversation. Just go check them out, go
listen, go learn, and let's be better to each other.
Love you guys.
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