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February 11, 2025 36 mins

How can SaaS companies benefit from the seasoned insights of the Pricing I/O team to navigate complex market dynamics and achieve pricing excellence?  
 
Today I’m speaking with Peter Cohen, Steve Inman, Mario Pereda, Emily Sanz and Amit Saraf - a special lineup of pricing experts from the Pricing I/O team. These experts have vast knowledge across various industries like airlines, freight transportation, and tech. Each of my talented colleagues shares their unique insights into the art of pricing. We engage in a dynamic roundtable discussion, unraveling the intricacies of delivering just the right amount of value without overextending, a vital strategy for maximizing utility in SaaS pricing. Our conversation reveals how to effectively capture value and tackle the complexities of pricing across different sectors, guiding SaaS companies toward optimal pricing models. 

The discussion begins with a deep dive into why software packaging deserves more attention than pricing itself, with the team advocating for an 80/20 split in favor of packaging considerations. They explore why providing the right amount of value, rather than maximizing features, is crucial for customer satisfaction and revenue growth in SaaS businesses. 

The conversation then shifts to analyzing Salesforce's recent move to conversation-based pricing for their AI agent service, charging $2 per conversation instead of traditional user-based licensing. The team debates the implications of this shift and whether it would work for smaller companies without Salesforce's data advantages and established customer base. The episode concludes with team members sharing their key advice for SaaS leaders in 2025, including the importance of customer feedback, service differentiation, careful discounting practices, and implementing effective pricing committees. 
 
In this episode: 
(00:00) Team Introductions - Pricing I/O team members including Peter Cohen, Steve Inman, Mario Pereda, Emily Sanz and Amit Saraf - each bringing different pricing expertise across industries 

(05:09) “A-ha” moments, packaging vs pricing, why software packaging deserves more attention than pricing levels, with the recommendation to spend 80% of time on packaging and 20% on price points, why giving customers the right amount of value (no more, no less) is crucial for SaaS success 

(17:41) Salesforce's move from user-based licensing to charging $2 per conversation for their AI agent, the pros and cons of this pricing strategy and its implications for the industry 

(31:38) Team members share their top pricing recommendations for 2025, including: 

- Getting customer and employee feedback regularly 

- Focusing on services as a differentiator 

- Being careful with discounting 

- Implementing a pricing committee 

(37:16) Closing remarks, favorite jams 

Welcome to Street Pricing, the only show where proven SaaS (Software as a Service) leaders share their mindset and mistakes in pricing so we can all stop guessing and start growing. Street Pricing is hosted by Pricing I/O CEO and Pricing Coach, Marcos Rivera, sought after slayer of bad pricing. With 20 years of pricing expertise, he has helped price over 200 SaaS products and coached over 100 SaaS CEOs and counting! From the streets of the Bronx to CEO, Marcos wants to take the guessing out of pricing.   

Resources: 

Peter Cohen LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-co...

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