July 23, 2025 • 37 mins
What if everything you've been taught about success, healing, and reality is incomplete?
In this eye-opening episode of the Super Entrepreneurs Podcast, host Shahid Durrani is joined by Masati, founder of Xi Exponential Intelligence. Known for fusing ancient wisdom with quantum physics and energetic mastery, Masati guides high-level entrepreneurs and leaders to awaken their deepest potential by helping them remember who they truly are — beyond conditioning, trauma, and societal labels.
He dives into how gravity and consciousness intertwine, how subconscious identity blocks hold entrepreneurs back, and why many CEOs unknowingly build empires from pain. If you've ever felt like something deeper is calling you — this conversation is it.
Chapters:
01:11 The Awakening Journey
02:53 Understanding Exponential Intelligence
04:04 The Science of Gravity and Human Potential
06:05 The Power of Presence and Connection
17:43 Understanding Linear Time and Identity
19:14 Healing Subconscious Blockages
20:57 The Importance of Childhood and Identity Formation
25:29 Mastering Energetic Frequency for Success
29:35 The True Value of Success and Overcoming Trauma
33:09 Personal Stories of Transformation
34:27 The Impact of Childhood Trauma on Success
35:38 Future Collaborations and Series
36:10 Rewriting Success Paradigms
Pullout Quotes:
- “I don’t heal people. I awaken them so they can remember who they are.”
- “Success built from trauma will always come with a cost.”
- “You don’t need better solutions — you need consciously evolved solutions.”
- “Your inner frequency determines how your external world reflects back to you.”
- “Let’s stop creating success from lack, sacrifice, and control.”
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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ximasati/
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I don't heal people, I just awakenthem so they can remember who they are.
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Welcome back to SuperEntrepreneurs Podcast.
I'm your host, Shahid Durrani,today I'm joined by someone truly
extraordinary, Masati Masati.
He's the founder of Xi ExponentialIntelligence, a transformation
guide, and someone who helps peopleshift out of limitation into a life.
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They cautiously design his work blendsancient wisdom, quantum science,
and real world transformation.
So I would like to welcomeMasati to our show.
Hey Shay, thank you so much for having me.
It's an honor.
It's an honor, brother.
Thank you so much for makingthe time to come on our show.
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You talk about, or you teach peoplehow to live by their own design, right?
Was there a. A moment in your life whenyou realize that you were still living by
default, that you had to make that shift.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Actually
it happened in my early teenslate teens actually late
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teens, early, early twenties.
And I just wanted toknow the meaning of life.
She, like a lot of, a lot of us,when we're kids, we have this
passion, we have this possibility,we feel limitless, but then.
Somewhere along the line.
Yes.
It's what the hell happened?
What, you're supposed to dothis, you're supposed to do that.
You're supposed to, and then you morphin or you just close everything up.
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And then I just wanted that feelingback, that experience back, and I
wanted it so bad that the universegoes do you really wanna know?
I go, yeah, I really wanna know.
And that's so in my early twenties, I hadmy first near death experience, which is.
Opened me back up to, the originalform of who we really are.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
As kids, we're veryjoyful., We feel limitless.
We have a lot of love in our heart.
We're very curious.
Absolutely.
We're discovering we're helping,we're guiding, we're just playing.
It's just a different type of life.
And very similar to mein my transformations.
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As soon as you start calming themind and you start becoming more
aware rather than thought basedreality, you start realizing that joy
starts showing up again internallyfirst, but then on the outside too.
Yeah.
And the people that arejoyful start showing up.
Exactly.
So I love it.
In a nutshell, that's basically what I do.
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I help you remember who you werebefore society told you who you were.
Yes.
I love that.
And I do it very differently ThroughUhhuh, it's becoming more and more
a science exponential intelligence.
I call it exponential meta science.
'cause I work on quantum computersand now I'm like literally rewriting.
Mass density and how gravityworks and so on like that.
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'cause there's a lot of holes in that.
But the same, that same science that helpsthose areas also help human potential.
And I've helped, leaders, literallyleaders top level CEOs, literally
see life or that childlike self intheir billion dollar corporations.
'cause why can't you have both?
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Why can't you have both?
Yeah.
Said.
Yeah, said.
So can I ask you this question?
Why are you so serious onsocial media, your pictures?
Because your energy's very enthusiastic.
So is there a reason for whyyou're so serious in the socials?
No, it's just my bitch face, i.
Hell, I don't know.
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That's hilarious.
Oh my God.
And also you mentioned gravity.
Yeah.
Now, gravity is a force, right?
Is invisible, is Yeah.
Is there.
But there's new research coming out.
There's some people that have watchedsome content that they're looking into the
function of, could you give us an exampleor some kind of idea if you could simplify
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gravity and how it impacts our results.
In what way?
Like in life, in business and life.
Yeah.
How, yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah, that, that's that'sa really good start.
It's different than most of thequestions I get, but Yeah, I'd love to.
Yeah.
Great.
But first of all, about, so the intensity,when people see me I have six kids
their friends my, my kids' friends.
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They come over and it's damn you're,your dad's really intense, I think
when you're such, when you're stuckin, not stuck, but when you're in
present moment time, so greatly.
People feel the intensity of who you are.
Yeah.
So when you get to, obviously if youknow me, I'm just, probably the nicest
guy, but yes, but with my abilitiesthough, I can see through anybody.
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And I think that's whatscares a lot of people.
'cause it's shit, this guyknows all my weaknesses.
And I, yeah.
Like Google, Google or Facebook they,they take, they track information
and they give you an algorithm.
'cause that's how AI works, right?
They check your algorithm and then theycould spit out, a same similar identity of
you and what your likes or dislikes are.
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I basically do the same thing for people.
I start to see the underlying frequencies.
I don't have to call information fromyou like they do, but I just see it
as oh this is what's going wrong.
Let's fix it.
Let's fix that programming.
And then this is where people,massively transform their
lives in a very short yeah.
Time, because a lot of people, theyreally don't know what's wrong with them.
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Yeah.
Or what, why their life is theway it is and I can snap it,
just pick on it just like that.
And when, so when you mentionedpresent moment awareness.
Like being present in the momentand just being more aware.
I find that.
Any human being that does this workstarts unlocking those type of gifts?
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Oh, absolutely.
Can you speak about that?
Can I answer your gravity
question first?
Yes, please.
I know, sorry.
So I actually am working on awhite paper on say how gravity
and mass and all that work.
So yeah.
In this situation.
And it is attuned to, how people createtheir lives and render their lives.
'cause we're living in a, likeI say, a fractal universe.
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What happens up there happens down here.
And you can see that samepattern through, nature.
So the way gravity works is, ifyou can imagine Einstein's, fabric
of space and time, they usuallythink it's just like a fabric.
It's, it's a. Two planes, it's not flat,but it literally is more of a lattice.
Kinda like how we see the matrix, right?
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And then basically if you're creatingdensity like a human body or say a
planet will happen is that there'sa spin, there's a consciousness that
starts to say, spin the the lattice oftime and space or the fabric of time.
And as it spins it gets biggerand it creates form and shape.
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Does that make sense so far?
C if you put like a fork in it,in spaghetti and you, and spin
it, it'll create, say, a mass.
And coincidentally, it'll actuallycreate a sphere no matter how much the
spaghetti, it'll start to create a sphere.
Again, it's 'cause of efficiency.
So you're pulling in fab of thefabric or the lattice of space and
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time, and as you do that, it'llstart to create, say, a body of mass.
It'll create density.
I don't believe in the big bang.
I actually believe that consciousness orsay a God or a higher self or somebody
outside of time and space or something.
An intelligence.
I call it natural intelligence.
Stepping outside of time and spaceand pulling that consciousness
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and say, warping the fabric or thelattice of space and time again.
Just like that spin.
And this is where gravity comes in.
So you're pulling, say, the rug.
If somebody's standing on a rugand you're pulling it into you,
you'll feel that gravity come in.
And this is what's happening constantly.
This is why the earth, anyplanetary system literally spins.
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Again, to pull, create that spin, weactually spin at a different level to
again, create, say, mass in density here.
If you see the universe,it has say a tally effect.
That's the, that's what I'm talking about.
So that's how Gravity is created.
And obviously it get, it getsdeeper into that, but it explains
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a lot of the holes in physics.
Ran it through, AI on, mysystems compared to, their
conventional theories on gravity.
Gravity mass.
Where does mass come from?
Why does light curve.
And it all, my theory literallyexplained and all that, so I do
have a white paper coming out.
So
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Beautiful.
Yeah.
That's great.
So this sounds like it's very passionbased from your end as well, right?
Yeah.
Is that, it actually is because,
I wanted to know the answers, the truth.
And in everything, because intoday's society, who can you trust?
You know what I mean?
It was like, damn.
Yeah.
So it was like, why not have thatinner trust, that internal dialogue.
(09:38):
Yes.
That internal compass that goes,okay that person I can trust.
And it's not because of what they'rewearing or what their physical credentials
are,
but it's the frequency behind it.
It's the vibe.
Yeah, certain people that I wouldnever dream of doing, harm to
somebody or unless it's necessary,but, it's just the vibe that I have.
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I don't have to have laws andrules and regulations and so on.
And that's how you can actually tell ifsociety is actually realized or advanced.
You look at the laws,if you were an alien.
Coming into this reality, Iwouldn't look at their technology.
'cause the technology is not that great.
It's wonderful, but the technologythat we have today kills, you can't
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use your cell phones too much.
Blue light radiation, all those things.
That's not advanced technology.
If it's killing the user, thenwe need to up our, science and go
to a higher level and go, shit.
How does nature do it?
How does nature enhance?
Our lives and improve ourselvesand make it more efficient.
So that's the level of, say, sciencethat I'm actually trying to access.
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Why can't computer screens,why are they dangerous?
Why do they emit blue light?
I. Why can't they emit a light that'sactually nourishing for ourselves?
So changing that mindset.
'cause we don't need better solutions.
We need consciously evolved solutions.
That's what Xi meant.
Yes.
So for me, I can go on,but Yeah, of course.
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Yeah.
But for me, before my transformationsI was very similar to that
when I was dealing with people.
I was listening to what they were saying.
I.
What is their background?
What are they wearing?
And oh, what could they do for me?
That kind of mentality.
Yeah.
And now it's just, I'mjust present with them.
And I resonate with what you'resaying because there's this sense.
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Of the person.
And now I'm trusting that because I'mable to connect the dots in the past.
Whenever that feeling or that specialthought is a, it's like a trigger.
You can't even say a thought.
It's like a deeper senseof knowing something.
Yeah.
That I had throughout my lifethat always saved me from bad.
Things and then alsohelp me in good things.
And I started understanding that.
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In my work that I was internally workingon every day I started practicing and
hearing that and seeing the resultsand understanding the past and present.
Yeah.
And with that practice, with that listing.
I feel like it's getting stronger in asense that it's starting to be more clear.
If I'm with someone, if I don'tsense something, I don't, yeah.
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I'm not rude about it, butI'm, I just, I'm just done.
It's exactly, it's not going anywhere.
Exactly.
And you'll see in my showtoo, a lot of guests comes.
There's that level where.
It's, yeah.
It's not happening.
But then there's energy where wework together, we do projects there,
we do some collaborations together.
We do a partnership together,we grow together 'cause that
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energy loves to grow together,
absolutely.
Absolutely.
And that's how, we grow strongcommunities and that's how we
literally come together as say one.
Not because we're the same sex and we'rethe same social income and we're not.
And this.
It's no, we're all individual, bringingin our own our own ingredients to,
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to make life zesty and, flavorful.
Yeah.
It's not like a vanilla society, andthat's what a lot of governments, because
it's more efficient, if everybody'sall the same, it's they, yeah.
It's more efficient processing thepeople and, we came here in this
reality to have fun and enjoy ourselves.
Yeah.
And that's what it's really all about.
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Yeah.
So your if you don't mindme, scanning you, yes.
You have that when you're, you,when you were a younger child, you
never lost that, say, essence thatwas kept into your mother allowed
that to say, flourish for you.
She never, she always kept nourishingthat if that makes sense for you.
Nourishing
what part?
Sorry.
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You, your essence, your presence.
Most parents, unfortunately theysnuff that out because their
parents are insecure or whatever.
But your mother, yeah, your motherhas a knowledge of understanding
or having a deeper connection.
Wow.
You just gave me goose bumps.
Yeah, because I as a story I share.
I shared before in the pastthat she was, I bought on it
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was a long time ago, but yeah.
It doesn't feel like a long time.
Honestly.
It feels like a movie that we're livingthat it just feels like these yeah,
these little memories of the past thatall feels like yesterday, but she was.
Sitting in a truck.
I got an SUV and she was sittingthere in the front with me back
then she was able to climb.
Now she's like 85.
It's really hard.
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Yeah.
But she was sitting there I go.
So do you like it?
I just got it.
So do you like it?
He goes.
Of course.
I love this.
I, when you guys were kids, Ialways saw myself sit in big trucks.
Oh, so sweet.
Yeah so she had this always about it.
And she's very innocent.
Yeah, so she didn't havethe political stuff.
She's very innocent about everything,she'll get upset and all that, but
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it was very, she's not conniving,
and that's what I grew up with.
And that's the kind of relationship I had.
And it's funny that you pointed that out.
Yeah.
And, so that, that presenceliterally is encoded.
So the science way is, say that.
You work from your brain forward,and this is where most people
are, from their brain forward.
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What, individuals like us, you and I andother people they work from back here.
If you wanna call it your spirit, I callit your timeless spell self forward.
And then that this portion herewhere you know Tony Robbins or Joe
Dispenza, or any of those greatindividuals, they've got great content.
I. Going forward fromtheir brain that way.
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Beautiful content, but what aboutyour foundation of who you are?
Your genetic structure yourgenerational pattern, society's
patterns that you just inherited rightoff the bat that you think is you.
That's what, XXI Xi is literallyabout, is wait a second.
Let's look back at what you broughtinto, from your parents' generations.
Your grandparents on and so on.
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Let's look at that and clean that up.
And then, what you do with Tony Robbinsand whoever works so much better.
Yeah.
Because the, I've got a lot of clientsfrom them, so that's why I talk about
Yeah.
No, definitely makes sense.
Is the foundation workthat is super important.
Exactly.
And understanding who the self really is.
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Because I always thought the self was myname and my body and my background and
my family name, and my prides and my thecultures, all that stuff was defining.
But then when you do a lot of the internalwork, when you meditate , you start.
Experiencing, there's this vastside of you that starts becoming
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the trueness of who you are.
And then you view everythingelse from that place.
You witness it.
And my name it means witness in Arabic,
sha means witness.
So I was, it's like I've beenguided from the beginning to be.
Witnessing and now I spend majorityof my time witnessing my thoughts,
witnessing my emotions, witnessingthe reactions, witnessing the
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world is in that witnessing stance.
And it felt like I've always been guided.
Step by step through the turmoilsthat I went through to get here today.
It feels like a design.
Yeah.
And that and you're right.
And again, just scanning you.
So your, again, your basis is literally,or your purpose or your single focus
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is again, shedding away who you're not.
Because, through we just wearwardrobes, way before, we morphed
into say, human human consciousnessor wore the war room of being human.
Who were we before then?
'cause we're timeless being everyreligion says that, and we all know that.
And very deep inside, even science deep.
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Yeah.
We know it's like we know we're greaterthan, our potential that we have here.
'cause time here is linear, at aspirit level or timeless level.
We have all potential.
So to create us here in physical form,while we have to wear clothing or
wardrobes of identities of who we are,but then those wardrobes get stuck on us.
Again, from parents, grandparents,nature doesn't do that.
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Nature just goes, okay, that thing,that wardrobe that you wore last
lifetime that doesn't look good on you.
Let's not wear that again.
And it pulls out thestuff that's not good.
Say heart disease.
Heart disease for example, or illnessesor, lack or any way nature always.
Nature always goes, okay,what we did right this last
generation, what did we did wrong?
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What, how can we improve?
And then the next generation forms, I.In humans, because we have free will we
pick, say what we want to bring into,say this physical form, each generation.
And let's just say humans haven't I.
One, they've lost their abilityfor free will because they chose
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the wrong things basically.
So what I do is wait a second.
Let's go back to who you could have beenat this moment in time if you would've
picked properly and evolved properly.
So this isn't just about, peoplemaking more money or people just
having better relationships.
It's about literally evolving.
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Like human consciousness.
And literally solving thedeeper problems in the world.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, you guide people throughthese healing experiences now
that we're talking about healing.
Yeah.
And for me, I was really working hardon my internal wor world doing the
work that I needed to do consistentlyto create that calmness and yeah.
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Just, bring being more present . Ifelt that there was something blocking
me from a lot of the experiences thatI wanted to consciously experience.
And so I, I met this gentleman, hehelped me, understand that there's
subconscious images in, from ourchildhood that create these blockages
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and you need to heal them at so what Istarted doing, I started going back to
the little shahi, the, that's great.
The memories I have.
Yeah.
So I started going there and I started.
Sitting with 'em, hanging outand talking saying it's okay.
You don't have to protect anymore.
I think psychology callsthe, what does it call it?
The little, I don't know, forgotthe term, but yeah, that's, I
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started working on that and findingout what was the blockages in my
body and the pain I would feel.
And go into the pain.
Yeah.
And I started healingit, started replacing it.
My childhood.
And then I started feeling thosechanges I was doing in my mind
from my past in my present.
And the more I did it, the more they wereclearing out and that all the clutter,
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all the clutters started clearing.
And that's how I do it with my studentsnow too, is I work on that part because I
feel that part is the missing ingredient.
So I wanna ask you, when you dothe healing experiences, yeah.
Can you share.
What are some of the common blindspots that the high performing,
entrepreneurs have when theywhen you work on this healing?
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Again, what I do and what you'vedone literally is go into say the
subconscious or super subconscious, butthere's actually a supra subconscious
or where you're, where you startto create, think of it this way.
What was the intelligence that createdyou before you were a single cell?
Or, before your brain was formed.
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So there was always, therewas obviously an intelligence.
So that intelligence is from, yourgenetics generational patterns.
Previous lifetimes and societal patterns.
Those are the four ingredients that youpull from to create who you are before
you even have an identity of who you are.
And that's the base of your identity.
And then, your brain kicks in.
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And then it activates by, the age seven.
So all that time, you're literallymorphing into who you're gonna be for
the rest of your life by the age seven
and that's why childhood is soimportant, but let's go even
deeper, where did you get that?
Where did you get who you were,the way you look and all that.
Where did you get all that stuff?
Your diseases that just comes with thefamily value, value systems and all that.
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We need to delete all that,if that makes sense for you.
I see.
My I see something happening to you at17 or 18 that kind of shook your world.
I don't know if it was asurgery or a death or, somebody
else's death or surgery.
That happened to you, that wokeyou up and opened the veil of say
the other side or death to you.
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And that's where, say, enlightenmentcame into you and this is your trajectory
on, oh, I need to remember who I am.
Again, I don't heal people, I just awakenthem so they can remember who they are.
I dunno if that makessense to you, but Yes.
Yes, of
course.
But around that's,
but around 17 or 18 I think therewas a death of a family member or
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something that was very tragic.
So maybe your parents?
Yeah.
Yeah, it was my grandfatherthat passed away when I was 17.
Yeah.
That I was really close to him.
Oh, thanks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was really close with him.
Yeah.
And yeah
So that affects you, and again,I don't, this is the first time
I met you and all that yeah.
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I read, if you wanna call it your scrolls,but literally your genetic patterns,
I don't have to know your birthday.
I don't know.
I have to, I don't have to knowwhat you look like, that deeper
layer that say impacts us so deeply.
So for example, you, yourgrandfather, passed away at 17, 18.
You're close to him.
So he, and by the way, I'mwriting a paper on death as well.
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But I'm literally rewriting.
The science of everything here, shade.
But your grandfather passes away.
It creates it.
It opens up, say that lightor basically that spinning.
That happens, right?
You unspin and then you morphinto say, nothingness, but there's
still a consciousness there.
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So that's how that word.
But when it say uns spins, itopens a vortex in this physical
reality that's of the other side.
I. Of say, consciousness level one.
Okay.
This is consciousness levelzero where density occurs.
Consciousness level one is a deathspace or a, an awakening space
if you're awake if you're living.
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And then as a young child tryingto figure out is gosh, I really
want to keep that presence alive.
You got pulled intosay that consciousness.
Of your grandfather's death andthen you floated back down your
grandfather, ascended to the other side.
But that identity or that moment, itcould have lasted maybe a second or
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two, but that moment is a lifetime.
Because there is no time and space there.
So that's why you have experiencesthat that feel like, oh, this
happened to me so long ago, butit feels just like yesterday.
You have a lot of moments like thatbecause you literally swim up to that,
say higher consciousness and thencome back down and just a moment.
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There again feels like a lifetime.
'cause there is no time.
Yeah.
There's
no space.
This information is super.
Yeah.
That's why I say that, everyone issuper, we have these Absolutely.
We just have to work on a deeperlevel expanding our consciousness and
viewing everything, all the contentsof viewing everything from that place.
Absolutely.
And that's when you start realizing.
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The power and the gifts and thelove that we have Absolutely.
For being here, is veryspecial for us to be here.
So when it comes to mastering yourenergetic frequency can you share
how it directly impacts the resultsgrowing your business, attracting
opportunities, even wealth creation?
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Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
Let's just give an example of howmost people do it and then that
way we can see Yes, the problem.
Good idea.
So what most people do and whatmost people think, and that's from
like generational patterns, in thisreality, you know what, the ingredients
that people create theirselves isbasically lack, sacrifice and control.
(26:03):
They put those ingredientsinto everything.
So what most people do to say create abusiness is they sacrifice everything
that they have, they sacrifice.
So basically it's like they sacrificetheir time, their life, their loved
ones their essence of who they are.
This is where selling yourself a lot ofCEOs that I work with, so they sit up
at night and go, shit, I, I sacrificedway too much for my success and the
(26:26):
value of what they've created, likefalters, I. And this is where extreme
examples are, people who, reach fortuneand fame and then they commit suicide.
Like Robin Williams andall those people's yes.
If it was like, so obviously there'ssomething wrong with that, that say model.
That model because it's like,why are so many people depressed?
(26:48):
Why are still, if you're wealthy, whyare you still aging like everybody else?
So there's no difference.
You just might go through life with,a, a different vehicle, but you still
have the same problems in, so again,because of those three ingredients,
no matter what you're doing, you haveto get rid of those ingredients that
people use to create, say, successmechanisms or, a dynasty or a legacy.
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In this case, you remove that andyou sacrifice, or you let go of,
say, your old self, of who you are.
So basically you start to peel away oryou start to remember who you really
are, an infinite being, a complete being.
And then yes your value of who youthink you are is not based on external.
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Say, identities you, your values basedon your connection to a higher source
or the original form of who you are.
And then when that source comesinto physical form in an awakened
state, it'll create abundancearound itself to reflect who it is.
Does that make sense to you?
(27:54):
Yeah.
So that's really key, andthat's, you can do that.
People do that.
So again, your value, yourinternal value, your essence rises.
Therefore, the reflectionis your environment.
And, it could be a castle, itcould be, a mansion, it could be,
beautiful cars or whatever youwant, but it's, so in this case.
It, your wealth and your abundanceand the success that you have
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actually is a reflection ofwho you are and it feels good.
And the more you shine yourreflection or the more you work,
basically, the more you get shinier.
'cause you're producing from a higherstate of being and it's effortless flow.
Literally, I work with CEOs who areliterally close to their deathbed, and
(28:39):
literally a high level CEO the biggest,manufacturer of its kind in the world.
Literally he had eight months to live.
He worked with me for a bit and hewas like, shit, I understand now.
And he still makes a hell of alot of money and but his employees
are happier, his family's happier.
He's younger, he's 15years younger than yeah.
(28:59):
At his age.
So that's what I'm talkingabout, it's awesome.
Are you creating real value or areyou just creating a shell of who
you are, outside going, look, Ihave all these cars and I have all
this money, I feel like crap inside.
It is a facade and peoplelike that all the time.
Yeah.
All the time and maybe say,okay, maybe I need more money
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that's going to go, oh my God.
Exactly.
So they go after more, but theissue is until we find out who that
trueness is, who we are, matter.
That unevenness will always be there.
Yeah.
If you're looking just sometips solid tips for people.
Please a ask, ask yourselfwhat, what is, say the cause of
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your success and, look at that.
'cause most people, they wannarun away from something like, si.
Silicon Valley was based on no offensenerds who was basically picked on.
Literally, , I'll show the world.
I'm gonna get successful and, showpeople who they are, or people
who go, God, I hate my parents.
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We were born poor, we didn'thave anything to do or have,
therefore I'm gonna be rich.
So it, it's like this, and thisis the problem with most people.
It's I don't like this, soI'm gonna escape into this.
And it's a simple example.
Shaheed think of it.
So what, and this is justmathematical 'cause everything's
just, mathematics and and, physics.
(30:25):
So basically your higherself goes, oh, okay.
For every say one x. Whatever, X isfor every X of say, pain and suffering
that you want to move away from.
Say you get say for every two xthat you know of suffering, that
you have poverty, that you haveof, abuse that you have here.
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You have created say one xof say, abundance or success.
Does that make sense?
That equation?
For you?
So basically it's shit, I want to go, fivex or 10 x. If you want to go 10 x. Like
Grant Cardone, if he wants to go 10 x orwhatever he says, 10 x, it's yeah, okay.
So what Grant does, for example, inthis case is like he has to create
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a 20 x of suffering to propel himto, again, expand to that level.
So because you've equatedsuffering to your success, pain,
suffering
to success.
And Tony Robbins teaches, and again,no offense against those guys, but
no I'm just, I'm just telling himas Hey, you can do it another way.
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You you, since your identity, 'causewe're all, it's all reference points
of who you are, because that's what'sthis reality is about reference points.
Everything is a reference point.
So just think of it.
So the more you're, the more of this youwant and the more suffering that you have.
So at a personal level 'cause again,suffering is attached to success.
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In this reality is attached to sacrifice.
And then what do people, they, theycan't, they feel less, they feel lack.
So they have to controltheir reality more.
And this is where, people who turn into,their multimillionaires or billionaires,
trillionaires, now, because there's novalue, real value, so that you have to
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have a trillionaire trillion dollarsto look at, go, God, I'm important.
Because billionaires isn't enough.
It's just not enough.
Oh, I got my thumb off.
But anyway you remove thatand this is where in today's
society, real value is coming.
So ask yourself.
It's what is say the, the gasoline,the accelerator of your success.
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If you're a high level CEO,you need to get rid of it.
You need to change that.
In fact I work with some Navy seals.
Now the reason why they turned intoNavy Seals is because they had so much
childhood trauma that they thought, beingstrong like a Navy SEAL would heal it.
But then the problem nowadays withNavy seals, again, excellent training,
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but why do those men come out broken?
It didn't help them.
It didn't resolve.
Yeah.
It just, it basically destroyed them.
It's shit I have nowhere to go.
I thought that was gonna bethe key for me, and it wasn't.
As a kid, I would get bullied a lot, soas I got older I started watching a lot
of action movies and, that kind of stuff.
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I was shifting my paradigmwithout even knowing.
Yeah.
And then I. As I was in mytwenties, I became very violent.
I started fighting back to nottwenties, actually, earlier.
It was like probablylast year of high school.
Yeah.
But I started, I said, this is enough.
After getting pushed in alocker, I was like, this is up.
I'm a big guy.
I'm six four.
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Back then, probably six three.
Yeah.
But I, so I, I should,I need to do something.
I can't let him.
I can't just operate by kindness.
I have to shift.
Yeah.
And I was just stuck.
I started watching movies, notknowing I'm shifting something.
And started consuming, Istarted visualizing myself,
fighting, all that kind of stuff.
I was getting what exactly what I wanted.
So in that situation, yeah.
I felt that I needed that tobe successful, I needed to
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absolutely beat people up.
Fight bigger groups.
I'll go, go against 10 people if it wasn'tfive people, and prove that I'm brave,
prove that I can't be bullied anymore.
Then I started getting into business,okay, I need to have business because
the action movies were showing success.
Yeah.
So I was, I was going into the.
I was doing everything basedon that reference point of
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exactly of that pain, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Great.
Yeah.
And the underlying, and again, thisis for you that underlying frequency
of like emptiness or holiness holinessis started for you around 10, 11, 12.
Then by the age 1314, this iswhere it started to manifest.
So you being extra kind in today'ssociety, the definition of kind or
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nice is literally I have no identityof myself and people can just come
in and put their emotional dirtyshoes in my house, in my, in my body.
And, at 13, 14, I thinkyou basically goes, fuck.
I'm sick of this.
And that's where you started to go,no, I don't want all those people's
garbage, in my presence, in myessence, if that makes sense to you.
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Empathic people, that's what they do.
Yeah.
And again, that's where alot of confusion too, right?
Oh of course.
'cause you have, whoever again, at thatage, you just basically morph into whoever
you know, you're around, because they'recool and you think that you're not.
And then it's shit.
No.
Yeah.
So what you do is you kept pushing peopleor people's frequencies or programming
(35:31):
out of you, if that makes sense for you.
No, this is great.
Yeah.
Oh man.
We could talk about this for hours.
I'd love to have you on a show again.
We can even probably, yeah, we couldeven find maybe a section to focus
on where it can help entrepreneursand we could talk about that some.
Portion of what you do in yourworld for absolutely executives.
(35:52):
Yeah.
We can do a series.
I would love to talk about this stuff.
This stuff, we can't,there's never, oh, I love it.
I'm pretty sure you're the same way.
Like you could talk aboutthis for three days, right?
Oh, absolutely.
No.
Yeah, I do.
Absolutely I would a series wouldbe good because then you can get
into say the nuances of yeah.
Like success or again you know what,say Tony Robbins or Joe Dispenza
(36:15):
teaches to not, not go, Hey, this isbetter than that, but it's combined,
you can accelerate so much faster,so definitely any that are out there.
I'm actually rewriting thebook Thinking Grew Rich.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
From my point of view, from exponential.
Beautiful point of view and
yeah.
(36:35):
Yeah.
I'll, I, what I'll do is I'll send youthe first my first draft please, before
and after, and you go, holy shit, thisis the pieces that we're missing in.
Please everything that
was agreed about success.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, that I'll love to get a copy.
That's great, ma. It was anhonor having you on the show.
It was a great talk.
I appreciate you and your timeand what you're doing for people.
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There's something much deeper.
There's a calling behind it.
There's something that you are.
Meant to do for human beings andsocieties and cultures and the world.
Thank you.
I'm grateful to have you in my presence.
Like I know you in my network now andyou're part of this family, so I want
to grow with you, I wanna work with you.
I wanna do whatever I can tohelp you amplify what you do
(37:20):
as well.
So
as thank you as well, a new thank you.
It's a new generation coming up and Ithink we're, that, we're the pioneers
that go, Hey, this is how, yes.
A world could really be.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
I'm looking forward to that.
Thank you, my friend.
I don't heal people, I just awakenthem so they can remember who they are.
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Welcome back to SuperEntrepreneurs Podcast.
I'm your host, Shahid Durrani,today I'm joined by someone truly
extraordinary, Masati Masati.
He's the founder of Xi ExponentialIntelligence, a transformation
guide, and someone who helps peopleshift out of limitation into a life.
(00:50):
They cautiously design his work blendsancient wisdom, quantum science,
and real world transformation.
So I would like to welcomeMasati to our show.
Hey Shay, thank you so much for having me.
It's an honor.
It's an honor, brother.
Thank you so much for makingthe time to come on our show.
(01:11):
You talk about, or you teach peoplehow to live by their own design, right?
Was there a. A moment in your life whenyou realize that you were still living by
default, that you had to make that shift.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Actually
it happened in my early teenslate teens actually late
(01:32):
teens, early, early twenties.
And I just wanted toknow the meaning of life.
She, like a lot of, a lot of us,when we're kids, we have this
passion, we have this possibility,we feel limitless, but then.
Somewhere along the line.
Yes.
It's what the hell happened?
What, you're supposed to dothis, you're supposed to do that.
You're supposed to, and then you morphin or you just close everything up.
(01:53):
And then I just wanted that feelingback, that experience back, and I
wanted it so bad that the universegoes do you really wanna know?
I go, yeah, I really wanna know.
And that's so in my early twenties, I hadmy first near death experience, which is.
Opened me back up to, the originalform of who we really are.
Yeah.
(02:13):
Yeah.
Yeah.
As kids, we're veryjoyful., We feel limitless.
We have a lot of love in our heart.
We're very curious.
Absolutely.
We're discovering we're helping,we're guiding, we're just playing.
It's just a different type of life.
And very similar to mein my transformations.
(02:35):
As soon as you start calming themind and you start becoming more
aware rather than thought basedreality, you start realizing that joy
starts showing up again internallyfirst, but then on the outside too.
Yeah.
And the people that arejoyful start showing up.
Exactly.
So I love it.
In a nutshell, that's basically what I do.
(02:55):
I help you remember who you werebefore society told you who you were.
Yes.
I love that.
And I do it very differently ThroughUhhuh, it's becoming more and more
a science exponential intelligence.
I call it exponential meta science.
'cause I work on quantum computersand now I'm like literally rewriting.
Mass density and how gravityworks and so on like that.
(03:18):
'cause there's a lot of holes in that.
But the same, that same science that helpsthose areas also help human potential.
And I've helped, leaders, literallyleaders top level CEOs, literally
see life or that childlike self intheir billion dollar corporations.
'cause why can't you have both?
(03:40):
Why can't you have both?
Yeah.
Said.
Yeah, said.
So can I ask you this question?
Why are you so serious onsocial media, your pictures?
Because your energy's very enthusiastic.
So is there a reason for whyyou're so serious in the socials?
No, it's just my bitch face, i.
Hell, I don't know.
(04:02):
That's hilarious.
Oh my God.
And also you mentioned gravity.
Yeah.
Now, gravity is a force, right?
Is invisible, is Yeah.
Is there.
But there's new research coming out.
There's some people that have watchedsome content that they're looking into the
function of, could you give us an exampleor some kind of idea if you could simplify
(04:28):
gravity and how it impacts our results.
In what way?
Like in life, in business and life.
Yeah.
How, yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah, that, that's that'sa really good start.
It's different than most of thequestions I get, but Yeah, I'd love to.
Yeah.
Great.
But first of all, about, so the intensity,when people see me I have six kids
their friends my, my kids' friends.
(04:49):
They come over and it's damn you're,your dad's really intense, I think
when you're such, when you're stuckin, not stuck, but when you're in
present moment time, so greatly.
People feel the intensity of who you are.
Yeah.
So when you get to, obviously if youknow me, I'm just, probably the nicest
guy, but yes, but with my abilitiesthough, I can see through anybody.
(05:14):
And I think that's whatscares a lot of people.
'cause it's shit, this guyknows all my weaknesses.
And I, yeah.
Like Google, Google or Facebook they,they take, they track information
and they give you an algorithm.
'cause that's how AI works, right?
They check your algorithm and then theycould spit out, a same similar identity of
you and what your likes or dislikes are.
(05:36):
I basically do the same thing for people.
I start to see the underlying frequencies.
I don't have to call information fromyou like they do, but I just see it
as oh this is what's going wrong.
Let's fix it.
Let's fix that programming.
And then this is where people,massively transform their
lives in a very short yeah.
Time, because a lot of people, theyreally don't know what's wrong with them.
(05:59):
Yeah.
Or what, why their life is theway it is and I can snap it,
just pick on it just like that.
And when, so when you mentionedpresent moment awareness.
Like being present in the momentand just being more aware.
I find that.
Any human being that does this workstarts unlocking those type of gifts?
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Oh, absolutely.
Can you speak about that?
Can I answer your gravity
question first?
Yes, please.
I know, sorry.
So I actually am working on awhite paper on say how gravity
and mass and all that work.
So yeah.
In this situation.
And it is attuned to, how people createtheir lives and render their lives.
'cause we're living in a, likeI say, a fractal universe.
(06:44):
What happens up there happens down here.
And you can see that samepattern through, nature.
So the way gravity works is, ifyou can imagine Einstein's, fabric
of space and time, they usuallythink it's just like a fabric.
It's, it's a. Two planes, it's not flat,but it literally is more of a lattice.
Kinda like how we see the matrix, right?
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And then basically if you're creatingdensity like a human body or say a
planet will happen is that there'sa spin, there's a consciousness that
starts to say, spin the the lattice oftime and space or the fabric of time.
And as it spins it gets biggerand it creates form and shape.
(07:26):
Does that make sense so far?
C if you put like a fork in it,in spaghetti and you, and spin
it, it'll create, say, a mass.
And coincidentally, it'll actuallycreate a sphere no matter how much the
spaghetti, it'll start to create a sphere.
Again, it's 'cause of efficiency.
So you're pulling in fab of thefabric or the lattice of space and
(07:46):
time, and as you do that, it'llstart to create, say, a body of mass.
It'll create density.
I don't believe in the big bang.
I actually believe that consciousness orsay a God or a higher self or somebody
outside of time and space or something.
An intelligence.
I call it natural intelligence.
Stepping outside of time and spaceand pulling that consciousness
(08:09):
and say, warping the fabric or thelattice of space and time again.
Just like that spin.
And this is where gravity comes in.
So you're pulling, say, the rug.
If somebody's standing on a rugand you're pulling it into you,
you'll feel that gravity come in.
And this is what's happening constantly.
This is why the earth, anyplanetary system literally spins.
(08:33):
Again, to pull, create that spin, weactually spin at a different level to
again, create, say, mass in density here.
If you see the universe,it has say a tally effect.
That's the, that's what I'm talking about.
So that's how Gravity is created.
And obviously it get, it getsdeeper into that, but it explains
(08:54):
a lot of the holes in physics.
Ran it through, AI on, mysystems compared to, their
conventional theories on gravity.
Gravity mass.
Where does mass come from?
Why does light curve.
And it all, my theory literallyexplained and all that, so I do
have a white paper coming out.
So
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Beautiful.
Yeah.
That's great.
So this sounds like it's very passionbased from your end as well, right?
Yeah.
Is that, it actually is because,
I wanted to know the answers, the truth.
And in everything, because intoday's society, who can you trust?
You know what I mean?
It was like, damn.
Yeah.
So it was like, why not have thatinner trust, that internal dialogue.
(09:38):
Yes.
That internal compass that goes,okay that person I can trust.
And it's not because of what they'rewearing or what their physical credentials
are,
but it's the frequency behind it.
It's the vibe.
Yeah, certain people that I wouldnever dream of doing, harm to
somebody or unless it's necessary,but, it's just the vibe that I have.
(09:59):
I don't have to have laws andrules and regulations and so on.
And that's how you can actually tell ifsociety is actually realized or advanced.
You look at the laws,if you were an alien.
Coming into this reality, Iwouldn't look at their technology.
'cause the technology is not that great.
It's wonderful, but the technologythat we have today kills, you can't
(10:22):
use your cell phones too much.
Blue light radiation, all those things.
That's not advanced technology.
If it's killing the user, thenwe need to up our, science and go
to a higher level and go, shit.
How does nature do it?
How does nature enhance?
Our lives and improve ourselvesand make it more efficient.
So that's the level of, say, sciencethat I'm actually trying to access.
(10:45):
Why can't computer screens,why are they dangerous?
Why do they emit blue light?
I. Why can't they emit a light that'sactually nourishing for ourselves?
So changing that mindset.
'cause we don't need better solutions.
We need consciously evolved solutions.
That's what Xi meant.
Yes.
So for me, I can go on,but Yeah, of course.
(11:07):
Yeah.
But for me, before my transformationsI was very similar to that
when I was dealing with people.
I was listening to what they were saying.
I.
What is their background?
What are they wearing?
And oh, what could they do for me?
That kind of mentality.
Yeah.
And now it's just, I'mjust present with them.
And I resonate with what you'resaying because there's this sense.
(11:30):
Of the person.
And now I'm trusting that because I'mable to connect the dots in the past.
Whenever that feeling or that specialthought is a, it's like a trigger.
You can't even say a thought.
It's like a deeper senseof knowing something.
Yeah.
That I had throughout my lifethat always saved me from bad.
Things and then alsohelp me in good things.
And I started understanding that.
(11:52):
In my work that I was internally workingon every day I started practicing and
hearing that and seeing the resultsand understanding the past and present.
Yeah.
And with that practice, with that listing.
I feel like it's getting stronger in asense that it's starting to be more clear.
If I'm with someone, if I don'tsense something, I don't, yeah.
(12:14):
I'm not rude about it, butI'm, I just, I'm just done.
It's exactly, it's not going anywhere.
Exactly.
And you'll see in my showtoo, a lot of guests comes.
There's that level where.
It's, yeah.
It's not happening.
But then there's energy where wework together, we do projects there,
we do some collaborations together.
We do a partnership together,we grow together 'cause that
(12:34):
energy loves to grow together,
absolutely.
Absolutely.
And that's how, we grow strongcommunities and that's how we
literally come together as say one.
Not because we're the same sex and we'rethe same social income and we're not.
And this.
It's no, we're all individual, bringingin our own our own ingredients to,
(12:54):
to make life zesty and, flavorful.
Yeah.
It's not like a vanilla society, andthat's what a lot of governments, because
it's more efficient, if everybody'sall the same, it's they, yeah.
It's more efficient processing thepeople and, we came here in this
reality to have fun and enjoy ourselves.
Yeah.
And that's what it's really all about.
(13:15):
Yeah.
So your if you don't mindme, scanning you, yes.
You have that when you're, you,when you were a younger child, you
never lost that, say, essence thatwas kept into your mother allowed
that to say, flourish for you.
She never, she always kept nourishingthat if that makes sense for you.
Nourishing
what part?
Sorry.
(13:35):
You, your essence, your presence.
Most parents, unfortunately theysnuff that out because their
parents are insecure or whatever.
But your mother, yeah, your motherhas a knowledge of understanding
or having a deeper connection.
Wow.
You just gave me goose bumps.
Yeah, because I as a story I share.
I shared before in the pastthat she was, I bought on it
(13:58):
was a long time ago, but yeah.
It doesn't feel like a long time.
Honestly.
It feels like a movie that we're livingthat it just feels like these yeah,
these little memories of the past thatall feels like yesterday, but she was.
Sitting in a truck.
I got an SUV and she was sittingthere in the front with me back
then she was able to climb.
Now she's like 85.
It's really hard.
(14:18):
Yeah.
But she was sitting there I go.
So do you like it?
I just got it.
So do you like it?
He goes.
Of course.
I love this.
I, when you guys were kids, Ialways saw myself sit in big trucks.
Oh, so sweet.
Yeah so she had this always about it.
And she's very innocent.
Yeah, so she didn't havethe political stuff.
She's very innocent about everything,she'll get upset and all that, but
(14:41):
it was very, she's not conniving,
and that's what I grew up with.
And that's the kind of relationship I had.
And it's funny that you pointed that out.
Yeah.
And, so that, that presenceliterally is encoded.
So the science way is, say that.
You work from your brain forward,and this is where most people
are, from their brain forward.
(15:04):
What, individuals like us, you and I andother people they work from back here.
If you wanna call it your spirit, I callit your timeless spell self forward.
And then that this portion herewhere you know Tony Robbins or Joe
Dispenza, or any of those greatindividuals, they've got great content.
I. Going forward fromtheir brain that way.
(15:26):
Beautiful content, but what aboutyour foundation of who you are?
Your genetic structure yourgenerational pattern, society's
patterns that you just inherited rightoff the bat that you think is you.
That's what, XXI Xi is literallyabout, is wait a second.
Let's look back at what you broughtinto, from your parents' generations.
Your grandparents on and so on.
(15:47):
Let's look at that and clean that up.
And then, what you do with Tony Robbinsand whoever works so much better.
Yeah.
Because the, I've got a lot of clientsfrom them, so that's why I talk about
Yeah.
No, definitely makes sense.
Is the foundation workthat is super important.
Exactly.
And understanding who the self really is.
(16:08):
Because I always thought the self was myname and my body and my background and
my family name, and my prides and my thecultures, all that stuff was defining.
But then when you do a lot of the internalwork, when you meditate , you start.
Experiencing, there's this vastside of you that starts becoming
(16:30):
the trueness of who you are.
And then you view everythingelse from that place.
You witness it.
And my name it means witness in Arabic,
sha means witness.
So I was, it's like I've beenguided from the beginning to be.
Witnessing and now I spend majorityof my time witnessing my thoughts,
witnessing my emotions, witnessingthe reactions, witnessing the
(16:54):
world is in that witnessing stance.
And it felt like I've always been guided.
Step by step through the turmoilsthat I went through to get here today.
It feels like a design.
Yeah.
And that and you're right.
And again, just scanning you.
So your, again, your basis is literally,or your purpose or your single focus
(17:16):
is again, shedding away who you're not.
Because, through we just wearwardrobes, way before, we morphed
into say, human human consciousnessor wore the war room of being human.
Who were we before then?
'cause we're timeless being everyreligion says that, and we all know that.
And very deep inside, even science deep.
(17:38):
Yeah.
We know it's like we know we're greaterthan, our potential that we have here.
'cause time here is linear, at aspirit level or timeless level.
We have all potential.
So to create us here in physical form,while we have to wear clothing or
wardrobes of identities of who we are,but then those wardrobes get stuck on us.
Again, from parents, grandparents,nature doesn't do that.
(18:02):
Nature just goes, okay, that thing,that wardrobe that you wore last
lifetime that doesn't look good on you.
Let's not wear that again.
And it pulls out thestuff that's not good.
Say heart disease.
Heart disease for example, or illnessesor, lack or any way nature always.
Nature always goes, okay,what we did right this last
generation, what did we did wrong?
(18:23):
What, how can we improve?
And then the next generation forms, I.In humans, because we have free will we
pick, say what we want to bring into,say this physical form, each generation.
And let's just say humans haven't I.
One, they've lost their abilityfor free will because they chose
(18:45):
the wrong things basically.
So what I do is wait a second.
Let's go back to who you could have beenat this moment in time if you would've
picked properly and evolved properly.
So this isn't just about, peoplemaking more money or people just
having better relationships.
It's about literally evolving.
(19:05):
Like human consciousness.
And literally solving thedeeper problems in the world.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, you guide people throughthese healing experiences now
that we're talking about healing.
Yeah.
And for me, I was really working hardon my internal wor world doing the
work that I needed to do consistentlyto create that calmness and yeah.
(19:29):
Just, bring being more present . Ifelt that there was something blocking
me from a lot of the experiences thatI wanted to consciously experience.
And so I, I met this gentleman, hehelped me, understand that there's
subconscious images in, from ourchildhood that create these blockages
(19:49):
and you need to heal them at so what Istarted doing, I started going back to
the little shahi, the, that's great.
The memories I have.
Yeah.
So I started going there and I started.
Sitting with 'em, hanging outand talking saying it's okay.
You don't have to protect anymore.
I think psychology callsthe, what does it call it?
The little, I don't know, forgotthe term, but yeah, that's, I
(20:12):
started working on that and findingout what was the blockages in my
body and the pain I would feel.
And go into the pain.
Yeah.
And I started healingit, started replacing it.
My childhood.
And then I started feeling thosechanges I was doing in my mind
from my past in my present.
And the more I did it, the more they wereclearing out and that all the clutter,
(20:34):
all the clutters started clearing.
And that's how I do it with my studentsnow too, is I work on that part because I
feel that part is the missing ingredient.
So I wanna ask you, when you dothe healing experiences, yeah.
Can you share.
What are some of the common blindspots that the high performing,
entrepreneurs have when theywhen you work on this healing?
(20:57):
Again, what I do and what you'vedone literally is go into say the
subconscious or super subconscious, butthere's actually a supra subconscious
or where you're, where you startto create, think of it this way.
What was the intelligence that createdyou before you were a single cell?
Or, before your brain was formed.
(21:19):
So there was always, therewas obviously an intelligence.
So that intelligence is from, yourgenetics generational patterns.
Previous lifetimes and societal patterns.
Those are the four ingredients that youpull from to create who you are before
you even have an identity of who you are.
And that's the base of your identity.
And then, your brain kicks in.
(21:40):
And then it activates by, the age seven.
So all that time, you're literallymorphing into who you're gonna be for
the rest of your life by the age seven
and that's why childhood is soimportant, but let's go even
deeper, where did you get that?
Where did you get who you were,the way you look and all that.
Where did you get all that stuff?
Your diseases that just comes with thefamily value, value systems and all that.
(22:04):
We need to delete all that,if that makes sense for you.
I see.
My I see something happening to you at17 or 18 that kind of shook your world.
I don't know if it was asurgery or a death or, somebody
else's death or surgery.
That happened to you, that wokeyou up and opened the veil of say
the other side or death to you.
(22:25):
And that's where, say, enlightenmentcame into you and this is your trajectory
on, oh, I need to remember who I am.
Again, I don't heal people, I just awakenthem so they can remember who they are.
I dunno if that makessense to you, but Yes.
Yes, of
course.
But around that's,
but around 17 or 18 I think therewas a death of a family member or
(22:47):
something that was very tragic.
So maybe your parents?
Yeah.
Yeah, it was my grandfatherthat passed away when I was 17.
Yeah.
That I was really close to him.
Oh, thanks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was really close with him.
Yeah.
And yeah
So that affects you, and again,I don't, this is the first time
I met you and all that yeah.
(23:09):
I read, if you wanna call it your scrolls,but literally your genetic patterns,
I don't have to know your birthday.
I don't know.
I have to, I don't have to knowwhat you look like, that deeper
layer that say impacts us so deeply.
So for example, you, yourgrandfather, passed away at 17, 18.
You're close to him.
So he, and by the way, I'mwriting a paper on death as well.
(23:32):
But I'm literally rewriting.
The science of everything here, shade.
But your grandfather passes away.
It creates it.
It opens up, say that lightor basically that spinning.
That happens, right?
You unspin and then you morphinto say, nothingness, but there's
still a consciousness there.
(23:53):
So that's how that word.
But when it say uns spins, itopens a vortex in this physical
reality that's of the other side.
I. Of say, consciousness level one.
Okay.
This is consciousness levelzero where density occurs.
Consciousness level one is a deathspace or a, an awakening space
if you're awake if you're living.
(24:14):
And then as a young child tryingto figure out is gosh, I really
want to keep that presence alive.
You got pulled intosay that consciousness.
Of your grandfather's death andthen you floated back down your
grandfather, ascended to the other side.
But that identity or that moment, itcould have lasted maybe a second or
(24:37):
two, but that moment is a lifetime.
Because there is no time and space there.
So that's why you have experiencesthat that feel like, oh, this
happened to me so long ago, butit feels just like yesterday.
You have a lot of moments like thatbecause you literally swim up to that,
say higher consciousness and thencome back down and just a moment.
(25:01):
There again feels like a lifetime.
'cause there is no time.
Yeah.
There's
no space.
This information is super.
Yeah.
That's why I say that, everyone issuper, we have these Absolutely.
We just have to work on a deeperlevel expanding our consciousness and
viewing everything, all the contentsof viewing everything from that place.
Absolutely.
And that's when you start realizing.
(25:23):
The power and the gifts and thelove that we have Absolutely.
For being here, is veryspecial for us to be here.
So when it comes to mastering yourenergetic frequency can you share
how it directly impacts the resultsgrowing your business, attracting
opportunities, even wealth creation?
(25:43):
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
Let's just give an example of howmost people do it and then that
way we can see Yes, the problem.
Good idea.
So what most people do and whatmost people think, and that's from
like generational patterns, in thisreality, you know what, the ingredients
that people create theirselves isbasically lack, sacrifice and control.
(26:03):
They put those ingredientsinto everything.
So what most people do to say create abusiness is they sacrifice everything
that they have, they sacrifice.
So basically it's like they sacrificetheir time, their life, their loved
ones their essence of who they are.
This is where selling yourself a lot ofCEOs that I work with, so they sit up
at night and go, shit, I, I sacrificedway too much for my success and the
(26:26):
value of what they've created, likefalters, I. And this is where extreme
examples are, people who, reach fortuneand fame and then they commit suicide.
Like Robin Williams andall those people's yes.
If it was like, so obviously there'ssomething wrong with that, that say model.
That model because it's like,why are so many people depressed?
(26:48):
Why are still, if you're wealthy, whyare you still aging like everybody else?
So there's no difference.
You just might go through life with,a, a different vehicle, but you still
have the same problems in, so again,because of those three ingredients,
no matter what you're doing, you haveto get rid of those ingredients that
people use to create, say, successmechanisms or, a dynasty or a legacy.
(27:10):
In this case, you remove that andyou sacrifice, or you let go of,
say, your old self, of who you are.
So basically you start to peel away oryou start to remember who you really
are, an infinite being, a complete being.
And then yes your value of who youthink you are is not based on external.
(27:33):
Say, identities you, your values basedon your connection to a higher source
or the original form of who you are.
And then when that source comesinto physical form in an awakened
state, it'll create abundancearound itself to reflect who it is.
Does that make sense to you?
(27:54):
Yeah.
So that's really key, andthat's, you can do that.
People do that.
So again, your value, yourinternal value, your essence rises.
Therefore, the reflectionis your environment.
And, it could be a castle, itcould be, a mansion, it could be,
beautiful cars or whatever youwant, but it's, so in this case.
It, your wealth and your abundanceand the success that you have
(28:17):
actually is a reflection ofwho you are and it feels good.
And the more you shine yourreflection or the more you work,
basically, the more you get shinier.
'cause you're producing from a higherstate of being and it's effortless flow.
Literally, I work with CEOs who areliterally close to their deathbed, and
(28:39):
literally a high level CEO the biggest,manufacturer of its kind in the world.
Literally he had eight months to live.
He worked with me for a bit and hewas like, shit, I understand now.
And he still makes a hell of alot of money and but his employees
are happier, his family's happier.
He's younger, he's 15years younger than yeah.
(28:59):
At his age.
So that's what I'm talkingabout, it's awesome.
Are you creating real value or areyou just creating a shell of who
you are, outside going, look, Ihave all these cars and I have all
this money, I feel like crap inside.
It is a facade and peoplelike that all the time.
Yeah.
All the time and maybe say,okay, maybe I need more money
(29:20):
that's going to go, oh my God.
Exactly.
So they go after more, but theissue is until we find out who that
trueness is, who we are, matter.
That unevenness will always be there.
Yeah.
If you're looking just sometips solid tips for people.
Please a ask, ask yourselfwhat, what is, say the cause of
(29:42):
your success and, look at that.
'cause most people, they wannarun away from something like, si.
Silicon Valley was based on no offensenerds who was basically picked on.
Literally, , I'll show the world.
I'm gonna get successful and, showpeople who they are, or people
who go, God, I hate my parents.
(30:02):
We were born poor, we didn'thave anything to do or have,
therefore I'm gonna be rich.
So it, it's like this, and thisis the problem with most people.
It's I don't like this, soI'm gonna escape into this.
And it's a simple example.
Shaheed think of it.
So what, and this is justmathematical 'cause everything's
just, mathematics and and, physics.
(30:25):
So basically your higherself goes, oh, okay.
For every say one x. Whatever, X isfor every X of say, pain and suffering
that you want to move away from.
Say you get say for every two xthat you know of suffering, that
you have poverty, that you haveof, abuse that you have here.
(30:48):
You have created say one xof say, abundance or success.
Does that make sense?
That equation?
For you?
So basically it's shit, I want to go, fivex or 10 x. If you want to go 10 x. Like
Grant Cardone, if he wants to go 10 x orwhatever he says, 10 x, it's yeah, okay.
So what Grant does, for example, inthis case is like he has to create
(31:11):
a 20 x of suffering to propel himto, again, expand to that level.
So because you've equatedsuffering to your success, pain,
suffering
to success.
And Tony Robbins teaches, and again,no offense against those guys, but
no I'm just, I'm just telling himas Hey, you can do it another way.
(31:32):
You you, since your identity, 'causewe're all, it's all reference points
of who you are, because that's what'sthis reality is about reference points.
Everything is a reference point.
So just think of it.
So the more you're, the more of this youwant and the more suffering that you have.
So at a personal level 'cause again,suffering is attached to success.
(31:54):
In this reality is attached to sacrifice.
And then what do people, they, theycan't, they feel less, they feel lack.
So they have to controltheir reality more.
And this is where, people who turn into,their multimillionaires or billionaires,
trillionaires, now, because there's novalue, real value, so that you have to
(32:16):
have a trillionaire trillion dollarsto look at, go, God, I'm important.
Because billionaires isn't enough.
It's just not enough.
Oh, I got my thumb off.
But anyway you remove thatand this is where in today's
society, real value is coming.
So ask yourself.
It's what is say the, the gasoline,the accelerator of your success.
(32:36):
If you're a high level CEO,you need to get rid of it.
You need to change that.
In fact I work with some Navy seals.
Now the reason why they turned intoNavy Seals is because they had so much
childhood trauma that they thought, beingstrong like a Navy SEAL would heal it.
But then the problem nowadays withNavy seals, again, excellent training,
(32:57):
but why do those men come out broken?
It didn't help them.
It didn't resolve.
Yeah.
It just, it basically destroyed them.
It's shit I have nowhere to go.
I thought that was gonna bethe key for me, and it wasn't.
As a kid, I would get bullied a lot, soas I got older I started watching a lot
of action movies and, that kind of stuff.
(33:17):
I was shifting my paradigmwithout even knowing.
Yeah.
And then I. As I was in mytwenties, I became very violent.
I started fighting back to nottwenties, actually, earlier.
It was like probablylast year of high school.
Yeah.
But I started, I said, this is enough.
After getting pushed in alocker, I was like, this is up.
I'm a big guy.
I'm six four.
(33:38):
Back then, probably six three.
Yeah.
But I, so I, I should,I need to do something.
I can't let him.
I can't just operate by kindness.
I have to shift.
Yeah.
And I was just stuck.
I started watching movies, notknowing I'm shifting something.
And started consuming, Istarted visualizing myself,
fighting, all that kind of stuff.
I was getting what exactly what I wanted.
So in that situation, yeah.
I felt that I needed that tobe successful, I needed to
(34:01):
absolutely beat people up.
Fight bigger groups.
I'll go, go against 10 people if it wasn'tfive people, and prove that I'm brave,
prove that I can't be bullied anymore.
Then I started getting into business,okay, I need to have business because
the action movies were showing success.
Yeah.
So I was, I was going into the.
I was doing everything basedon that reference point of
(34:23):
exactly of that pain, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Great.
Yeah.
And the underlying, and again, thisis for you that underlying frequency
of like emptiness or holiness holinessis started for you around 10, 11, 12.
Then by the age 1314, this iswhere it started to manifest.
So you being extra kind in today'ssociety, the definition of kind or
(34:46):
nice is literally I have no identityof myself and people can just come
in and put their emotional dirtyshoes in my house, in my, in my body.
And, at 13, 14, I thinkyou basically goes, fuck.
I'm sick of this.
And that's where you started to go,no, I don't want all those people's
garbage, in my presence, in myessence, if that makes sense to you.
(35:09):
Empathic people, that's what they do.
Yeah.
And again, that's where alot of confusion too, right?
Oh of course.
'cause you have, whoever again, at thatage, you just basically morph into whoever
you know, you're around, because they'recool and you think that you're not.
And then it's shit.
No.
Yeah.
So what you do is you kept pushing peopleor people's frequencies or programming
(35:31):
out of you, if that makes sense for you.
No, this is great.
Yeah.
Oh man.
We could talk about this for hours.
I'd love to have you on a show again.
We can even probably, yeah, we couldeven find maybe a section to focus
on where it can help entrepreneursand we could talk about that some.
Portion of what you do in yourworld for absolutely executives.
(35:52):
Yeah.
We can do a series.
I would love to talk about this stuff.
This stuff, we can't,there's never, oh, I love it.
I'm pretty sure you're the same way.
Like you could talk aboutthis for three days, right?
Oh, absolutely.
No.
Yeah, I do.
Absolutely I would a series wouldbe good because then you can get
into say the nuances of yeah.
Like success or again you know what,say Tony Robbins or Joe Dispenza
(36:15):
teaches to not, not go, Hey, this isbetter than that, but it's combined,
you can accelerate so much faster,so definitely any that are out there.
I'm actually rewriting thebook Thinking Grew Rich.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
From my point of view, from exponential.
Beautiful point of view and
yeah.
(36:35):
Yeah.
I'll, I, what I'll do is I'll send youthe first my first draft please, before
and after, and you go, holy shit, thisis the pieces that we're missing in.
Please everything that
was agreed about success.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, that I'll love to get a copy.
That's great, ma. It was anhonor having you on the show.
It was a great talk.
I appreciate you and your timeand what you're doing for people.
(36:58):
There's something much deeper.
There's a calling behind it.
There's something that you are.
Meant to do for human beings andsocieties and cultures and the world.
Thank you.
I'm grateful to have you in my presence.
Like I know you in my network now andyou're part of this family, so I want
to grow with you, I wanna work with you.
I wanna do whatever I can tohelp you amplify what you do
(37:20):
as well.
So
as thank you as well, a new thank you.
It's a new generation coming up and Ithink we're, that, we're the pioneers
that go, Hey, this is how, yes.
A world could really be.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
I'm looking forward to that.
Thank you, my friend.
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